Episode 8 Later... with Jools Holland

This programme contains some strong CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Welcome to this incredible world. What a fantastic week and how

fantastic to have Lou Reed and # If the effort's too high

# You can't catch the moon # Now, me

# Not running heat that flames then out

# But the proud piece of ice that always floats

# Iced honey

# Iced honey

# Iced honey

# If I can't trap a butterfly # If I can't keep my heart

# If no matter how much soul and heart I put to the wood

# If a flaming heart is not that good

# Iced honey

# Iced honey

# Iced honey

# If you can't put a butterfly # Poured on a piece

# And your oxygen starts to run out

# If your final gasp has the recipe wrong

# Instead of hello You say "So long"

# If your energy starts to leak out

# And people wonder what you're all about

# A heartbreaker with an unattached heart

# The story of love gives them all a start

# And me, I've always been that way

# Not by choice, just this way

# I can't put my honey pot in a jar

# Or a heart or a fist of some young boy

# If you can't put a butterfly in a jar

# No wonder

# No need to wonder where you are

# It might seem like hell the River Styx

# Your affection never sticks no matter what you say

# No matter what you do

# A butterfly heart flies right past you

# There's nothing to say Nothing to do

# See if the ice will melt for you

# See if the ice will melt for you

# See if the ice will melt for you

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So fan tast So fantastic to have Lou Reed and Metallica together.

Who are our other guests? What an incredible mix. From New Ar Orleans,

we have Aaron Neville. And brand- new and from London, we're

delighted to have from London, Various Cruelties. I'm so pleased

that we have The Soul Rebels Brass Band. They play beautiful. From New

York, a great man, Steve Earle and The Dukes and dech esz. And

duchesses. Mr Keb' Mo'. I shall be talking to Nile Rodgers and just

generally enjoying myself, but from Shepherd's Bush with a new reggae-

style sound. Please welcome Hollie # You look at the News of the World

# If only you could shine through the darkness, yeah

# Hey, and the day and the night you dine out

# So far the reason you feel lonely

# Hey, you should try You should try

# The milk and the rice

# With just a bit of honey

# Every day in the evening paper view

# You see the boys and the girls

# They wanna be famous

# You talk and laugh You don't care for the rules

# You know that nothing ever really changes

# Yeah

# Hey, and the day and the night you dine out

# So far the reason you feel lonely

# Hey, you should try You should try

# The milk and the rice

# With just a bit of honey. #

HE SCATS

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The

The wonderful,

The wonderful, Hollie

The wonderful, Hollie Cook. Milk And Honey from her new album,

Hollie Cook. I'm delighted to welcome one of the great poets of

American music. He is joined by his band The Dukes and and duchesses.

# I grew up in a military town # Wonderin' what to do

# Lookin' back # To sing about livin'

# Chicken Little # Spent a lonely lifetime

# Never once crossed # Come upon an ocean

# Walkin' on the water # Searchin' for the Holy Grail

# Been across the oceans # Been around enough

# Been around enough # Now I'm sitting

# Singin' a song about a red-headed girl

# Was a time I would have said them days was gone

# But I'm givin' it another whirl

# Didn't know that I was gonna live this long

# Now I'm sittin' on top of the world

# Sittin' on top of the world, y'all

# Sittin' on top of the world

# Eyes wide open till the messenger calls

# Sittin' on top of the world. #

APPLAUSE

The

The love

The love this

The love this band, The Dukes and Duchesses, Steve Earle.

We saw them, we heard them earlier on in this show, what a fantastic

pairing of people, one and one has added up to 237. We welcome

Metallica and Lou Reed. It is lovely to have you back. It is

great to have you in this room. What an exciting start to the show

as well an interesting pairing. A very inspiring room to be in.

It shocked a lot of people the pairing. Who met who? We were both

trying on the same pair of jeans. At the same time? Yes. We got a

little stock of them and we got talking. We played at the the

Rock'n'roll Hall of Fame together. We played there and we had so much

fun that I yelled at him down the hall "we should do this again."

"let's make a record together, Lou.". For fun. That's why people

are supposed to do this, for the fun and not the money.

They agree with you. We agree with you. I put the record on and it is

great. It is like going into a very, it is like going into a 1930s

surrealist dark film for me and I like that. Blank faces.

That's one of the nicest things I heard!

I don't know, you know, is hamlet dark? Yes.

Well, that's dark. LAUGHTER

Shakespeare is dark. Anyway... Everybody is dead at the end of

Shakespeare. So tell us who Lulu? He is a German

character. He took two swipes at T it was essentially to stir this up.

He took two swipes, and in any Pandora's box, Louise Brookes took

a silent movie trapes at it. Then a a director wanted to take a crack

at it. He asked me to get involved with the music and they did it as

you might think would be done over there and I took the whole thing

and went over here. That is a a different zone to the

German opera. We would like to think so.

Can we see you you playing in places? Let's see how tonight goes.

That was the first time we ever played.

What do you think so far? ALL: Very good.

This was the first time we ever played outside the rehearsal room.

The tempo was so heavy. Oh, the temp ewas -- tempo was great.

He comes in where others leave off. The last time you were here, I said,

"What's your perfect day?" You said you wouldn't know what a perfect

day was if it came up and bit you. It is all true. Nothing has

changed? My idea of perfect day is this. That's the whole reason for

everything. The minute that beat kicks in, that's it for me.

Yes. How about you, what's your perfect day? It is probably being

at home on a weekend with my kids. Getting away from those people. It

is great to have you both here. is nice to be back.

We are really happy to be here with you Jools.

Thank you very much to Metallica and Lou Reed. And now, we move to

this corner and enjoy a brand-new band, Various Cruelties.

# The universe # We'll spin around the planets

# Mercury is rushing through # The universe is gonna throw it

# To get it back # Put your faith

# Release it, watch it burn up # Just give up the ghost

# You know it doesn't have to be a mystery

# Ohh-ohhh-ohh oh oh-ohh-ohh oh

# To get it back All we need is let it go

# Ohh-ohhh-ohh oh oh-ohh-ohh oh

# Put your faith Put your trust in the chemicals

# Ohh ohh-ohh ohh ohh-ohh

# Ohh ohh-ohh ohh ohh-ohh

# If it's meant to be

# The universe is gonna throw it back to me

# If it's meant to be

# The universe is gonna throw it back to me

# It's gonna throw it back to me

# Ohh-ohhh-ohh oh oh-ohh-ohh oh

# To get it back All we need is to let it go

# Ohh-ohhh-ohh oh oh-ohh-ohh oh

# Put your faith Put your trust in the chemicals

# Ohh-ohhh-ohh oh oh-ohh-ohh oh

# To get it back All we need is to let it go

# Ohh-ohhh-ohh oh oh-ohh-ohh oh

# Put your faith Put your trust in the chemicals

# Put your faith, put your trust in the chemicals

# Put your faith Put your trust in the chemicals. #

APPLAUSE

Various

Various Cruelties,

Various Cruelties, ladies

Various Cruelties, ladies and gentlemen.

So now, some people have a wall of sound. You have got a wall of sound

and a wall, ladies and gentlemen. I think it deserves a round of

applause. So now our next artist, I am such a fan of this man, I bought

his records, he has a lovely new record out called The Reflection.

# Tell the truth # Now you got a girl

# Put a smile on your face # To love somebody

# That you gotta # What you're gonna do

# Than the man you had # What you gonna do

# Where your anticipation # We all get used

# But now you're dealing with a situation

# That involves someone else

# Well, it's about to get different

# You're gonna need a new device

# Cos she's gonna open up your mind

# And open up your life

# So tell me now

# That you gotta whole enchilada

# Now that you gotta

# What you're gonna do?

# Are you gonna be any better

# Than the man you had to be to get her?

# Oh, now that you gotta

# What you gonna do What you gonna do?

# What you gonna do?

# This is the beginning

# Are you ready to learn

# To love somebody for a lifetime?

# Wake up, it's your turn

# So tell me now

# That you gotta whole enchilada

# Now that you gotta

# What you're gonna do What you gonna do?

# Are you gonna be any better

# Than the man you had to be to get her?

# Oh, now that you gotta

# What you gonna do What you gonna do?

# What you gonna do?

APPLAUSE

# I am a chorus

# Of the voices

# That gather up the magnets

# Set before me

# I attract you

# And repel you

# A science of the heart

# And blood and meaning

# The coldness of most beauties is a challenge that our youth

# Must quickly conquer

# There is no time for guilt

# Or second guessing Second guessing

# Based on feeling

# I am the truth, the beauty

# That causes you to cross your sacred boundaries

# I have no morals Some think me cheap

# And someone who despises

# The normalcy of heartbreak

# The purity of love

# But I worship the young and just-formed angel

# Who sits upon the pin of lust

# Everything else

# Bores me

# I want to see your suicide I want to see you give it up

# Your life of reason

# I want you on the floor

# And in a coffin your soul shaking

# I want to have you doubting

# Every meaning you've amassed

# Like a fortune

# Oh, throw it away

# For worship someone who actively despises you

# For worship someone who actively despises you

# I am the root

# I am the progress

# I'm the aggressor

# I am the tablet

# These ten stories Ah

# Pain and evil have their place sitting here beside me

# I offer them to you as servants of the gold that you must give

# Pain and evil have their place

# Sitting here beside me and I offer them

# I offer them to you

# As servants of the gold that you must give to me

# I want to see your suicide

# I want to see you give it up

# Give it up your your life of reason

# I want to see you on the floor

# And in a coffin soul shaking

# Soul shaking

# I want to have you doubting

# Every meaning you've amassed like a fortune

# Like a fortune throw it away

# For worship of someone who actively despises you

# Who actively despises you

# I am the view

# I am the table

# I am the view

# I am the table

# I am all this

# I am the root

# The progress

# The aggressor

# I am the table

# I am the ten stories

# I am the table

# I am

# I am

# I am

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APPLAUSE

Mixed

Mixed together

Mixed together for

Mixed together for the first time ever on British it is, Lou Reed and

Metallica. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Before that, we enjoyed the wonderful, Keb' Mo'.

I love a room where we have new people and we have a fair share of

legends. We welcome Nile Rodgers. It is good to see you, Nile. What a

good book. Filled with chic and all the incredible people you produced,

you name it, you produced them, Diana Ross and David Bowy, but --

Bowie, you have written this book. Why did you decide to write a book

now? I was actually tricked into doing it by a literary agent, but

once I started doing it, I started to interview my family and a lot of

artists and a lot of friends ands as I started to hear their answers,

I got more and more fascinated with what our lives were like and I just

kept and the next thing you know, four years later I was done.

were you asking, could you not remember what had gone on?

remembered well, but I wanted to get it right. If two people were

standing on a corner and we see an accident and somebody asks you,

"Jools, describe what you saw?" It will be different.

I'm sure that is true. Of course, you were the co-founder.

What an amazing group. What do you think was the key to it for you?

think what happened was we came along at a very interesting time

where we were able to fuse R&B with jazz and with dance with rock

overtones and do something that was speaking to the heart and soul of

the New York dance scene at the time. Studio 54 was the centre as

you well know the disco universe and I lived around the corner.

So it was easy to get to. I was living on 52nd Street.

Were you in there every night? was in there almost every night

after they let me in. We have a little bit of footage

# All that pressure got you down # Your head spinning all around

# Feel the rhythm # Check the vibe

# I'm going along to have a good time

# Oh what a joy # Just come on down

# Freak out # So chic

# Freak out # That was fantastic.

That was from 1978 and Nile Rodgers is here with us now. Nile, that was

one part of your life, but the other big professional part of your

life is as a record producer. You must be one of the most successful

record producers there has ever been, 100 million records, all the

great artists, you have produced them. Often producers aren't sure

what they do. How would you describe what your job has been as

a producer. Quincy Jones said the producer

afrecord is like a Director of A film. A record is a smaller project,

we have to handle every aspect. I have to deal with the budget, the

psychology if it is a ban and I have to turn the -- band and I have

to turn the project on time and under budget and I do that most of

the time except when I'm working with Duran Duran!

When it is over budget, but at least if we have hits all is

forgiven. I think the psychology must be

different having to - especially if they are arguing. What's your tip

to get people to work together? be the bad guy or the good guy. I

mean typically I have been lucky in that every band I worked with, I

just become part of the band. I try and hear every aspect of the story

and that's just it. I mean, you know, if you read the book, there

is not many bad things except for me. I'm doing the bad bad stuff.

You're too good really. An amazing man and an incressable book --

incredible book. We're delighted to have Nile Rodgers.

APPLAUSE A great legend of of the popular

music world. This week, we have two artists from New Orleans. This lot

are brand-new and fantastic and the other is a legend of New Orleans

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music. We welcome The Soul Rebels # I'm rollin' down

# I know it ain't OK but I can't stop wantin' you

# I do the best that I can

# I'm starin' in a highbeam headlight

# Burnin' your name On the back of my brain

# I swear I hear you callin'

# I might have to turn around cos I'm goin' insane

# I love you baby but I just can't tell

# This kinda love comes from Heaven or hell

# Heaven or hell

# Heaven or hell

# New moon against a long, dark, midnight blue

# Ain't a star any brighter than you

# I look in your eyes and I see that spark inside

# And it's all I can do

# To keep tellin' myself there ain't no way

# You're gonna do me like you did then

# I'm standin' my ground on feet of clay

# Oh, no, here I go again

# I love you baby but I just can't tell

# This kinda love comes from Heaven or hell

# Heaven or hell

# Heaven or hell

# There ain't nothing nobody can say

# There ain't nothing nobody can say

# There ain't nothing nobody can do

# Get down on their knees and pray

# I love you baby but I just can't tell

# This kinda love comes from Heaven or hell

# Heaven or hell

# Heaven or hell

# I love you baby but I just can't tell

# I love you baby but I just can't tell. #

APPLAUSE

The

The sweet

The sweet sound

The sweet sound of Allison Moorer and Steve Earle's voice. Steve

Earle. Before that, I think we all enjoyed the The Soul Rebels Brass

Band. We liked them, didn't we? Yes. I can see them next week at the

London Jazz Festival and another fantastic artist from New Orleans

is here now, Keb' Mo' is going to join us now. This particular artist

has done a fantastic new record of church church songs that inspired

him when he was a young lad. We welcome into this room, Aaron

# Travelling through # I've got a home built

# And it's not not made by hand

# And I got a mother a sister and a father

# Who have gone on now to the other shore

# And I am determined to go and see them, good Lord

# And to be with them for evermore

# And I go down to the River of Jordan

# Just to bathe my my weary soul

# If I can but touch the hem of his garment, good Lord

# That is how I know he'll make me whole

# And when he lays me down for the last time

# And when he lays me down for the last time

# With his hard hand resting on my breast

# And I don't want all that weeping and crying over me

# Cos you know that I've gone to rest

# I am a pilgrim and a stranger

# Travelling through this this wearisome land

# And I've got a home in that yonder city, good Lord

# And it's not not made by hand. #

APPLAUSE

You all right? How are you feeling? Can I hear you?

CHEERING

I

I can't

I can't hear

# It's been so long # My body beats

# It's been so long # I've been missing you

# My body beats and I'm feeling raw

# Huh! Stick like Henkle Glue

# Huh! Stick like Henkle Glue

# Too much places I had fun

# Where? Playing the game

# Scoring my name

# Couldn't have been so wrong

# Woman!

# But you, you come back

# Look how you hot

# Turn round the world full of diamonds and pearls

# You come back Look how you hot

# Turn around the world full of diamonds and pearls

# Where have you been to?

# A long time I've been missing you, you, you

# Anno lie me a tell it is the truth

# Cos the love still there it will natural grow

# Too much space where you belong

# Somewhere dark and warm

# It's feeling so right

# To be wrong

# Well, explain Na

HE SCATS

# It's been so long since

# I've been home

# I've been missing you from the start

# My body beats and I'm feeling raw

# Huh! Stick like Henkle Glue

# It's been so long since

# I've been home

# I've been missing you from the start

# My body beats and I'm feeling raw

# Huh! Stick like Henkle Glue

# Too much places I had fun

# Where? Playing the game

# Scoring my name

# Couldn't have been so wrong

# Me atell you

# It couldn't have been so wrong

# It couldn't have been so wrong

# Yeah! #

APPLAUSE

What

What a

What a marvellous

What a marvellous group, Hollie Cook.

The delightful reggae sound. Hey, I will have a quick chat with

Aaron. Aaron Neville, ladies and gentlemen.

APPLAUSE That's a beautiful song you played

there. What other songs have you got on your record? This is a

gospel record. It is sort of rhythm 'n' blues and it was a 50 year

anniversary of my recording. That's beautiful.

It is 50 years? 1960, yeah. We are delighted to have new the

studio. APPLAUSE

Can we manoeuvre into this corner and welcome a brand-new band,

# You know that # Packing up my suitcase

# We're dancing on ashes # Cos everything feels

# But some things you just never seem to know

# Do we fade out or burn like the sun?

# Do we let it all go or hold on?

# Do we see this through together as one?

# Or do we go it alone?

# Into the great unknown

# Staring at these beautiful scars

# Staring at these beautiful scars

# Of all the things we hurt for written on our hearts

# Somehow you still make me believe

# Cos everything feels too familiar

# But some things you just never seem to know

# Do we fade out or burn like the sun?

# Do we let it all go or hold on?

# Do we see this through together as one?

# Or do we go it alone?

# Into the great unknown

# Whoa ooh oh

# Whoa oh oh oh ah oh

# Whoa ooh ah ooh

# Whoa ooh ah ooh

# Whoa ooh oh

# Whoa oh oh oh ah oh

# Do we fade out or burn like the sun?

# Do we let it all go or hold on?

# Do we see this through together as one?

# Or do we go it alone?

# Into the great unknown

# Whoa ooh oh

# Whoa oh oh oh ah oh

# Whoa ooh ah ooh

# Do we see this through together as one?

# Or do we go it alone into the great unknown? #

APPLAUSE

# Come and gather round me, people and a tale to you I'll tell

# Of my father and his father in the days before the spill

# With an endless sky above 'em and a restless sea below

# And every blessing flowing from the Gulf of Mexico

# Well, my granddad worked the shrimp boats

# Well, my granddad worked the shrimp boats

# From the time that he was grown

# And he scrimped and saved and bought himself

# A trawler of his own

# He was rough and he was ready and he drank when he was home

# And he made his family's living on the Gulf of Mexico

# He was rollin'

# He was rollin'

# Cross the deep blue water

# He was rollin'

# Well, my daddy drove a crew boat hauling workers to the rigs

# He was sick of mending nets

# And couldn't stand the smell of fish

# He drew a steady paycheck 20 years to Texaco

# When he died, we spread his ashes on the Gulf of Mexico

# He was rollin'

# He was rollin'

# Cross the deep green water

# He was rollin'

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# That I stepped out on the drilling floor

# To earn a roughneck's pay

# Then one night I swear I saw the devil

# Crawlin' from the hold

# And he spilled the guts of hell out

# In the Gulf of Mexico

# We were rollin'

# We were rollin'

# Cross the blood-red water

# We were rollin'. #

APPLAUSE

Steve

Steve Earle

Steve Earle and

Steve Earle and The Dukes and dech us. The -- The Dukes and the

duchesses. The wonderful Steve Earle. Thank you to all our guests

this week. Thank you to Hollie Cook. Thank you to Keb' Mo' and Nile

Rodgers. Thank you to The Soul Rebels Brass Band. Thank you,

Various Cruelties. Thank you Aaron Neville. Next week, we have a

special compilation show some of people who have been on the show in

the last that had huge success. In two weeks live time live, we will

have the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, but now we finish with a unique and

amazing performance from Lou Reed # White light

# Don't you know # Ooooh, don't you know

# White light, light moving # White light

# Ooooh, white heat Goin' down to my toes

# Lord, have mercy White light had it, goodness knows

# Ooooh, white light

# Ooooh, white heat

# Ooooh, white light