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Welcome to Later and welcome to # Time, it trickles

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# And time goes quicker # And oh, my love, don't forsake me

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# Lay me down Let the only sound be the overflow

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# Pockets full of stones

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# Lay me down Let the only sound be the overflow

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# And, oh, poor Atlas was a beast of a burden

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# You've been holding on a long time

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# And, oh, poor Atlas was a beast of a burden

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# You've been holding on a long time

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# And don't listen only

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# And the ships are left to rust

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# That's what the water gave us

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# So lay me down

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# Let the only sound be the overflow

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# Pockets full of stones

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# Lay me down Let the only sound be the overflow

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# Cos next will be your loved ones But return them in exchange for you

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# But would you have it any other way?

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# Would you have it any other way?

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# You couldn't have it any other way

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# Cos she's a cruel mistress and the bargain must be made

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# But oh, my love, don't forget me But I let the water take me

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# Lay me down Let the only sound be the overflow

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# Pockets full of stones

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# Lay me down Let the only sound be the overflow

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# Lay me down Let the only sound be the overflow

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# Yeah-ay, yeah-ay

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# Yeah-ay, yeah-ay

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Wonderful

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Wonderful to

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Wonderful to have

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Wonderful to have them back here, Florence and The Machine.

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We have an incredible selection of guests this evening. I'm delighted

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to say the legendary, from New York, Mary J Blige is here! Welcome back

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to the studio the talent that is Brett Anderson.

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Lovely to see you. An amazing new voice with an

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amazing guitar. We welcome Bombino. And one of the greats of all time.

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Pete Townshend. Now please welcome # First light this morning

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# Been looking back # First I was an ancient

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# Been holding out # Something to carry me over

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# First light this evening # Then I found it

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# My search, it was over # First light this morning

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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# First light this morning Thank you My Morning Jacket. The

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song was First Lite. Now we go into this corner and welcome superb

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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sounds from west Africa. Give it up CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Bombino! So,

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Quadrophenia one of the great MoD opera and a fantastic piece of

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music is being rereleased. I'm delighted to say that Pete

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Townshend is here! Very good to see you. This is a fantastic work. Very

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fantastic work. Let me ask, steady, please be seated. It's all right.

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Good. Let me ask first of all, what inspired you to write faud row FINA

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in the first place? It's a bit of a long story -- Quadrophenia in the

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first place? It's a bit of a long story. The band was a bit lost.

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We'd had Tommy and then we'd had an album called Who's Next, based on a

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more ambitious idea, which had failed. I zooded -- decided to go

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back to our roots. Our roots were in west London and we started our

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first gigs in the Shepherd's Bush area. There was a big mod movement

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back then. I went back, in a sense, to reroute the band, reconnect with

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the past. In the end, it became a story about a boy and our audience

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really, who I called Jimmy. Very good name for it. It's a great

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story. It's a fantastic piece of music and a fantastic story as well.

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It's interesting how the two things developed. It's 40 years,

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unbelievably, 40 years since it was first released. Do you think it's

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still relevant, like it was when you did it? I don't know. I think

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what's interesting about it for me is that it's not just that it

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worked very well for me as a composer. I was happy with it. I

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had complete control of it. I managed to land it well. What I

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wanted to do was create a piece of music in which the listener could

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put themselves inside it and the vehicle that I chose for that

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journey that the listener would have was a boy who had a multiple

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personality disorder. So he had four aspects to his personality,

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which he recognised inside the four members of the band. In a sense, he

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was a nutter. What was delightful about it is that when the album

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came out was how so many people identified with this boy and I had

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all kinds of people, varied people, from Cabinet ministers even come

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and say, "I grew up with Quadrophenia. It helped me through

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a difficult part of my life." It's become a universal story. Every

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teenage boy goes through this stuff. When you think about The Who, what

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made them great? There was an interesting chemistry with the four

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members of the band. We were all very, very different. I came out of

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art school with a bit of a manifesto, which was an

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autoinstructive manifesto. It wasn't just about smashing guitars.

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There's a wonderful scene from Tony Palma's film, I say "The Who are a

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band and we're chopping away at our own legs." The idea was that we

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would explode and then I would become a painter. Unfortunately we

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got a hit and unfortunately I got a cheque, for having a hit. Van vas -

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- canvas in the bin. That's right. I was going to stay with the band

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until we came apart. We didn't come apart. We all had different needs.

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We all liked different music in a way. We had some common stuff but

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we were very different. I think that difference worked well for us

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in the long-term. We have some lovely footage of The Who. Let's

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have a look. Let's walk down memory # Inside, out

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# Leave me alone # Nowhere is home

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# Inside, outside APPLAUSE

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Marvellous, The Who! Was it true that you were banned from the BBC

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after that performance? I think we were, yeah. We kind of, I got very

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angry because it was a, it was a musician's union strike. We were

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called scabs because we performed live. I got very angry about that.

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Sir Jimmy Savile was on that. I remember him coming up to me after

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and saying, because I smashed up a guitar, I kind of Jimmy came up

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after and said "There's no need for that lad. No need for that. No need

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for that. Happy memories. What are you playing for us? I think I'm

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playing a song called quad ra phone, which is -- Quadrophenia. I think

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it's called Drowned. Can I check, is he still banned? No, OK. The ban

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is over. Thank you very much, the wonderful, amazing, Pete Townshend.

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Now I'm delighted to welcome back into the studio a talented fellow

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indeed. He's here with a lovely new report, give it up for Brett

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# Give me your brittle heart # I'll give you carpet burns

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# And all that power and all that passion can be ours tonight

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# Give me your brittle heart and I'll light a fire

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# I'll make an effigy from a lock of your hair

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# And all those cinders and all those embers can be ours to share

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# And I'll take them all on and force down their doors

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# And I'll take them all on and walk through their walls

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# And I'll take them all on and crawl to your door

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# And crawl to your door

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# Give me your brittle heart and your orphan's eyes

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# I'll give you carpet burns and antiseptic skies

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# And all that power and all that passion can be ours tonight

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# And I'll take them all on and force down their doors

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# And I'll take them all on and walk through their walls

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# And I'll take them all on and crawl to your door

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# And crawl to your door

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# And I'll come to you like a ship to the shore

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# Like a paper plane that falls to the floor

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# And I'll take them all on and crawl to your door

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# And crawl to your door

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# Give me your brittle heart

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# Give me your brittle heart

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# Give me your brittle heart and I'll light a fire

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# Whoa, oh-oh-oh

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# Whoa, oh-oh-oh

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# Light a fire

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# Give me your brittle heart

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# Light a fire

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# Give me your brittle heart

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# Light a fire. #

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CHEERING

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CHEERING AND

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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# There are men high up there fishing

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# Haven't seen quite enough of the world

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# Ain't seen a sign of my heroes

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# And I'm still diving down for pearls

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# Let me flow into the ocean

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# Let me get back to the sea

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# Let me be stormy and let me be calm

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# Let the tide in

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# I want it to rush over me

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# You know I wanna drown

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# I'm travelling over canyons

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# Then flying through the sky

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# I'm moving down cold metal

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# Just a tear in a baby's eye

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# Let me flow into the ocean

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# Let me get back to the sea

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# Let me be stormy and let me be calm

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# Let the tide in

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# I want it to rush over me

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# You know I wanna drown

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# I am not the actor

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# This can't be the scene

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# But I am in the water

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# As far as I can see

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# I wanna drown in your sweet, sweet love

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# I wanna drown in your sweet, sweet love

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# I wanna drown in your sweet, sweet love

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# I don't wanna die

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# Drown in it, drown in it

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# I'm remembering distant memories

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# Recalling other names

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# Rippling over canyons

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# And boiling in the train

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# Let me flow into the ocean

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# Let me get back to the sea

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# Let me be stormy and let me be calm

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# Let the tide in

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# I want it to rush over me

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# Cos you know I wanna drown

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# I wanna drown, drown, drown

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# Drown in your sweet, sweet love

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# I wanna

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# Drown in it, drown in it

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# Drown in it, drown in it

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# I wanna drown in your sweet, sweet love

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CHEERING

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CHEERING AND

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE the amazing legend, the poet, Pete Townshend.

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The amazing work Quadrophenia. Before that we enjoyed Brett

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Anderson. That song was Britle Heart. His album is Black Rainbows.

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Let's hear it for him. Now we're delighted to welcome back into this

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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# It was always standing # Holding my hand

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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# It was something to be # Holding my hand

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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# I can see it # Play it safe

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# If you ever emote # You can't get yours

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# First you're up # One day you're in

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# Yeah, c'mon # Play it smart

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# How you react is what you'll get back

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# Cos that's the way we really see

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# I am "you're" and "you're" is me

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# C'mon, you know how we are

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# First you're up Up, down, down

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# One day you're in The next one you're out

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# You wanna freak out, c'mon

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# You wanna freak out, c'mon

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# Yeah, yeah

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# You wanna freak out, c'mon

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# You wanna freak out, c'mon

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# You wanna freak out, c'mon

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# You wanna freak out You wanna freak out

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# You wanna freak out You wanna freak out

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# You wanna freak out, c'mon

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# Yeah, c'mon. #

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CHEERING

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CHEERING AND

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Thank you My Morning Jacket. Before that, we

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love Florence and The Machine. Marvellous to have Florence and The

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Machine here, yes? APPLAUSE

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Yes. I'm delighted to say we're going to chat with somebody who is

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performing in the show. One of my favourites of all time actually.

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I'm delighted to welcome Mary J Blige.

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APPLAUSE You're here on a whirlwind tour.

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You have My Life Two record coming out. It's brilliant. I've heard a

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couple of things from it: Thank you. What your -- was your inspiration?

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The inspiration was the efluegs of the first one. The first My Life

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album, we were going through so much, going through so much pain

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and didn't understand what life was about. We've grown and evolved so

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much, there's eight albums in between. We've grown and evolved,

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so I wanted people to understand and remind them how far we've come.

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My Life One, in 1994, was your second LP. Things presumably have

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improved a great deal since then? Absolutely. Life was horrible

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during the first album. My fans and I, when I released that album, four

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million people, I didn't know four million people were hurting like I

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was hurting. They became my fans. We started a movement. We have been

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growing and evolving together ever since. I felt like it was important

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right now for them to know we've done a great deal of work on

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ourselves. We've come a long way. We understand that life is not life

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without trial. We cannot be strong if we're nol challenged with

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something in life. That's what the album consists of. It's great. It's

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a celebration, but at the same time it's very deep because life is

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still life, no matter how happy you are, you are going to be challenged.

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There's always something. Always. We're going to play something from

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your record in a mo.. Tell us about the song. This is called Need

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Someone to Love. It's like me singing to my younger self in so

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much pain. It's like I was looking in the mirror saying "You need

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someone to love you". It's a heart- felt song. It sucks the air out of

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the room. It's quiet. And you're playing with me. It's beautiful. I

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think everybody needs somebody to love them. You're absolutely right

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there. Thank you very much, Mary J Blige! We're going to see more of

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Mary J in a moment. APPLAUSE

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So now, over in the middle of the room, I'm delighted to welcome a

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brand new talent, somebody we haven't had on the show before.

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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# The ground is # With my last breath

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# With my last breath # With my last breath

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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# Where the ground is # With my last breath

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# With my last breath # When the ground is

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# Your face is armed # You stumble round like a figure

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# Step off of the brake You're a crash about to happen

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# Step into the page How you fascinate

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# Anaesthetised in a room of alterations

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# Politicised by the carvings and the blackbirds

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# Step off of the brake You're a crash about to happen

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# Step into the page How you fascinate

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# And I stop and I stare And I wait for it to happen

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# And I stop and I stare And I wait for it to happen

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# And I stop and I stare And I wait for it to happen

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# Only want you when you're breaking up

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# Why do they only want you when you're cracking up?

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# Step off of the brake You're a step away from falling

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# Step into the page How you fascinate

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# And I stop and I stare and I wait for it to happen

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# And I stop and I stare and I wait for it to happen

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# And I stop

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# Step off of the brake

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# And I stare and I wait for it to happen

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# And I stop

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# Step off of the brake

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# And I stare You're a crash about to happen

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# A crash about to happen

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# A crash about to happen

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# A crash about to happen. #

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CHEERING

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CHEERING AND

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Brett

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Brett Anderson.

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Brett Anderson. Crash

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Brett Anderson. Crash About

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Brett Anderson. Crash About To Happen from black rainbow. Before

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that, the wonderful voice of Cold Specks.

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APPLAUSE Now, the person we met earlier,

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Need Someone, a beautiful song. I'm delighted to welcome at the piano,

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# From where you stand # No way to make it make sense

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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# You need someone # But you

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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# You need someone to hold you # But you

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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# You need someone to tell you CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 67 seconds

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. What a handsome boogie woo, from Bombino.

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That's from their new album. Before that, the amazing, almost had me in

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tears, the amazing, Mary J Blige. Now let's keep moving. Here's My

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# Oh, woah, woah, woah # Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

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# But it don't belong # Distortion finds its place

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# Coming into life you need its grind

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# But at a point you gotta let it go

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# Or it will cross the permanent threshold

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# You know you gotta find it out in something else good

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# Oh, black metal You so misunderstood

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# Holding on to black metal

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# Black metal

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# Holding on to black metal

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# Black metal

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# Black metal, you been holding

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# Oh, black metal, so misunderstood

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# Deep black service under Lucifer's hood

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# Black metal steals souls young Enough's enough

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# 32oz refill out of Lucifer's cup

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# Black metal need to be unlearned You teenage pup

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# Look at you, starchild You all grown up

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# Still holding on to black metal

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# Black metal

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# Still holding onto black metal

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# Black metal

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# You been holding on too long...

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# Oh, woah, woah, woah Oh, woah, woah

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# Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Oh...

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# Catching waves on Lucifer's beach

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# Taking shade underneath Lucifer's trees

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# Getting sustenance from Lucifer's peach

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# Oh, black metal, it's affecting all your speech

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# Still holding on to black metal

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# Black metal

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# Still holding on to black metal

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# Black metal

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# You been holding on too long...

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# Oh, woah, woah, woah Oh, woah, woah

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# Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah Oh...

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# Black metal

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# Black metal

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# Bring it to me

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# Black metal

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# Bring it to me

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# Black metal

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# You been holding on too long. #

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CHEERING

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CHEERING AND

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE My

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My Morning

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My Morning Jacket.

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My Morning Jacket. Thank

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My Morning Jacket. Thank you. Thank you to all of our guests. Thank you

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to Brett Anderson. Beautiful to have him back in this room. Thank

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you to Cold Specks. Thank you to the one and only amazing, Mary J

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Blige. The legendary, one and only, Pete

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Townshend. What a beautiful sight at the piano to behold those two

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people. Thank you Bombino! Oh, yes. Next week, me tall ka, Steve

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Metallica, Steve, Earl and now we finish with Florence and The

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# You are the hole in my head # You are the silence in between

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# You are the night-time fear You are the morning when it's clear

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# When it's over You're the start

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# You're my head and you're my heart

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# No light, no light in your bright-blue eyes

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# I never knew daylight could be so violent

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# Revelation in the light of day

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# You can't choose what stays and what fades away

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# And I'd do anything to make you stay

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# Oooh, ah, ah

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# No light, no light, no light

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# Tell me what you want me to say

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# Through the crowd I was crying out

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# And in your place there were a thousand other faces

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# I was disappearing in the play inside

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# Heaven help me I need to make it right

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# You are the revelation You want to get right

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# And it's a conversation I just can't have tonight

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# You want a revelation Some kind of resolution

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# You want a revelation

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# No light, no light in your bright-blue eyes

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# I never knew daylight could be so violent

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# Revelation in the light of day

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# You can't choose what stays and what fades away

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# And I'd do anything to make you stay

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# No light, no light, no light

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# Tell me what you want me to say

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# Would you leave me if I told you what I'd done?

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# But it's so hard, my love, to say it to you out loud

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# No light, no light in your bright-blue eyes

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# I never knew daylight could be so violent

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# Revelation in the light of day

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# You can't choose what stays and what fades away

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# And I'd do anything to make you stay

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# No light, no light, no light

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# Tell me what you want me to say

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# You want a revelation You want to get it right

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# But it's a conversation I just can't have tonight

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# You want a revelation Some kind of resolution

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# You want a revelation

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# You want a revelation You want to get right

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# Let me what you want me to say. #

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CHEERING

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