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# Clap your hands, everybody come on

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# Clap your hands

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# Clap your hands, everybody come on

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# One, two, three, hit it. #

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FUNK MUSIC

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What a groovy way to start.

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Let's start with Band Of Horses.

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# Woo

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# Woo, woo, woo-woo-woo

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# Woo, woo, woo-woo-woo

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# Better things come to those who wait

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# Then bitterness left for all too late

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# Greatness achieved

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# And darkness defeated

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# A ram shack crew with something to prove

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# And the truck load up believe it

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# You see me go, there's something coming your way

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# Everything I want and everything I need

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# So say it to me

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# Say it to my face

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# There's no time to be

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# Reserved or safe

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# Call just chill, whenever

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# Glory till the end

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# Everything I want

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# Everything I'll get

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# It's coming now

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# It's going down

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# The stars are falling

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# Walls are crumbling on the ground

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# Knocking on the doorway, look what's coming your way

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# Everything I want, everything I need

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# Knocking on the door Knocking on the door

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# Knocking on the door Knocking on the door

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# Ooh, ooh, ooh-ooh

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# Ooh, ooh, ooh-ooh-ooh

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# The world's going nowhere

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# The right ones with the green

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# Proving me wrong

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# The other one's between hell fire

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# Bring on these

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# Look what's in the door There's something coming your way

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# Everything I want Everything I need

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# Knocking on the doorway, look what's coming your way

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# It's everything I want It's everything I need

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# Knocking on the door Knocking on the door

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# Knocking on the door Knocking on the door

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# Knocking on the door Knocking on the door

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# Knocking on the door Knocking on the door

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# Knock-knocking on the door

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# Ooh, ooh, ooh-ooh. #

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Band Of Horses, Knock Knock.

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So, who do we dare to have on our show this evening?

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An amazing array of line-up, an amazing array of guests.

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From Oakland, California,

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we will be having Larry Graham and Graham Central Station.

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We will be talking to the legendary Jimmy Page.

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From Detroit, Rodriguez.

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From Lisbon in Portugal, Luisa Sobral.

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From Oxford, Foals.

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Delighted to have them back in this room.

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And now, from Hereford, please big it up for Ellie Goulding!

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# Stripped to the waist

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# We fall into the river

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# Cover your eyes

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# So you don't know the secret

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# I've been trying to hide

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# We held our breath

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# To see our names are written

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# On the wreck of '86

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# That was the year

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# I knew the panic was over

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# Since we found out

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# Since we found out

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# That anything could happen

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# Anything could happen

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# Anything could happen Anything could happen

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# Anything could happen

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# Anything could happen Ooh, yeah

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# Oooh

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# After the war we said we'd fight together

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# I guess we thought that's just what humans do

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# Letting darkness grow as if we need its palette

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# And we need its colour

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# But now I've seen it through

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# And now I know the truth

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# That anything could happen

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# Anything could happen

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# Anything could happen Anything could happen

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# Anything could happen

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# Anything could happen, oh yeah

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# Oooh

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# Baby

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# I'll give you everything you need

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# I'll give you everything you need, oh

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# I'll give you everything you need

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# But I don't think I need you

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# I know it's going to be

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# I know it's going to be

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# I know it's going to be I know it's going to be

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# I know it's going to be

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# I know it's going to be I know it's going to be

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# I know it's going to be

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# Oooh

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# And I don't think I need you

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# Oooh

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# And I don't think I need you

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# Oooh

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# And I don't think I need you

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# Oooh

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# And I don't think I need you. #

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Ellie Goulding, Anything Could Happen.

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From her Halcyon LP.

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More from her later on.

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What were you doing in 2007?

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Well, don't think too hard, but if you were watching this show

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you would have enjoyed the first appearance of this lovely group.

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Foals!

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APPLAUSE

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MUSIC: "Inhaler" by Foals

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# Sticks and stones

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# Break my bones

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# You make believe

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# It's lock and load

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# It's a dead-end road to you and me

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# It's not rust or gold

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# I'm strict for soul

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# I make believe

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# And I'm not for rent

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# My head is spent

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# I guarantee

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# So can you not go away

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# If just for one day

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# Woo-ooo-ooo

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# Impossible, possible way

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# How d'you feel now?

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# How d'you feel now?

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# In a war

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# War sounds in you

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# Throw your fortune away

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# Cos I can't get enough

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# Space

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# Space

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# Space

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# Space

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# I'm pale and coy

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# I'm almost born

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# I make believe

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# I shimmy-shake

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# I wake and bake

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# I'm over me

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# I lost the beat

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# I cannot breathe

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# Don't follow me

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# You push and shove

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# I've had enough

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# Don't mess with me

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# So can you not go away?

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# If just for one day

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# Woo-ooo-ooo

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# Impossible, possible way

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# How d'you feel now?

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# How d'you feel now?

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# In a war

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# War sounds in you

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# Don't throw your fortune away

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# Cos I can't get enough

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# Space

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# Space

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# Space

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# Space. #

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APPLAUSE

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Thank you, Foals!

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Lovely song called Inhaler from their Holy Fire LP.

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So now, one of the great, actually one of the greatest guitarists

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Britain has ever produced, a man that started off

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playing sessions for everybody

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and ended up playing for one of the most popular groups on earth.

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We welcome, Jimmy Page!

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APPLAUSE

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Very nice.

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First of all, welcome to the show. It's great to have you here. Very pleased.

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-Is that really your beer?

-No, it's not my beer.

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It's not my red wine. Love the way they thought that's what we'd have.

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-It's been put there as a prop.

-I see, I see.

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If you'd rather have a red wine, do.

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Now, the first thing I've got to ask you, cos you really are

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of the guitar, lots of people have copied your style.

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Lots of young guitarists have listened to you and thought,

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"That's what I want to play like."

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Who was it that wanted to play like when you first started out?

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Well, when I was a kid, when I first started playing,

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it's undeniable, Lonnie Donegan and his group was the skiffle group

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of our era that caught everybody up.

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But bit by bit, there was no doubt it was Scotty Moore with Elvis

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and that was just phenomenal, his playing and what he made,

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-his architecture behind Elvis.

-Yeah, yeah.

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And then James Burton and it sort of went on from there

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into sort of Blues players.

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To be honest with you, I've just got such a whole collection of heroes

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that, you know, I owe my playing to, to be honest.

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-Do you still to listen to them now?

-Yeah, to be honest with you,

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like Chuck Berry, for example, yeah.

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If I'm a little bit down,

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I just put those records on and I'm way up in the air again.

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Speaking of being way up in the air,

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you've got this DVD out of this incredible show,

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which was the Led Zeppelin reunion.

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And what was the last gig you did before this in 2007?

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With Jason, I think it was the Atlantic 40th,

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which would have been about 27 years before that, so.

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We leave it a bit between gigs.

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Exactly, you don't rush into it, exactly.

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What made you decide to reform at that point?

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Well, there was a call, you know,

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to do this date for Ahmet's charity and the foundation.

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-Ahmet Ertegun?

-Ahmet Ertegun, yeah, of Atlantic Records.

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And he was such a wonderful sort of presence

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in the music industry and everyone came to this to do this.

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Originally it was said, "Do 20 minutes,"

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well there was no way we could do 20 minutes,

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so we ended up doing whatever it was -

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two hours and 20 minutes.

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-Which is fantastic.

-After having not playing for so long,

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it seemed really important to go out there and show what we were about.

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-It's fantastic sounding thing. Let's have a little look.

-All right.

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# Ah-ha

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-AUDIENCE:

-# Ah-ha

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# Ah-ha

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# Ah-ha

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# Ah

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# Ah-ha

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# Oh

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MUSIC: "Black Dog" by Led Zeppelin

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Very exciting. Very exciting.

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What a riff!

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I mean, 20 million people.

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Yes, let's just bask in that figure for a moment, shall we?

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Not 20, not 20,000, not 200,000,

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but 20 million people applied for tickets and couldn't get them.

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That's a lot of people, isn't it?

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That's more than all of these people.

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It is when you're doing one show.

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-Yes, exactly. Anyway, they couldn't get in.

-No.

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So, all those people who couldn't get tickets,

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would you do any more shows for them?

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I don't... Jools, it's been five years, now, since that show.

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Come December, it's five years and there hasn't been

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any sort of whispers or hints to play all together again.

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So, you know. At least we've got this.

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Exactly. Which is a lovely reminder of a great show.

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Looking back at it all, the whole of the amazing history

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of Led Zeppelin and your own musical career,

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is there anything you would have ever done differently?

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Erm... no, I don't think so.

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It's a hypothetical question, I don't really know.

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It's been pretty good.

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You know, this is pretty good too. We're still there. We're still there.

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-We're still rocking, man.

-That's very good.

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Thank you very much for joining me, Jimmy Page.

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The legendary, Jimmy Page.

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Now another legend, a man who was part of Sly And The Family Stone,

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one of the originators of funk music,

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yes, Larry Graham and Graham Central Station.

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CHEERING

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MUSIC: "It's Alright (The New Master)" by Larry Graham and Graham Central Station

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# Does the music make you feel like moving?

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# It's all right

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# Yeah

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# Does it make you feel like grooving?

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# It's all right

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# Yeah

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# Does it make you feel like dancing?

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# It's all right

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# Yeah

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# Does it make you clap your hands?

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# It's all right

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# Yeah

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# Yeah

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# Does it make you feel like clapping?

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# It's all right

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# Yeah

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# Energy is what's happening

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# It's all right

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# Yeah

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# Does it make you feel like singing?

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# It's all right

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# Yeah

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# Energy is what we're bringing

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# It's all right

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# Yeah

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# Dancing and singing, well

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# That's really all I ever wanted to do

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# Woo-hoo-ooo, I said

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# Dancing and singing

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# That's all I ever really wanted to do... #

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-Don't you know that...

-# Dancing and singing

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# That's all I really ever wanted to do

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# People

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# Dancing and singing

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# That's all I ever really wanted to do... #

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Tell me, do you feel like dancing?

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-AUDIENCE:

-Yeah!

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Do you feel like standing up?

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-AUDIENCE:

-Yeah!

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Do you feel like screaming, y'all?

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-AUDIENCE:

-Yeah!

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Then scream! AUDIENCE CHEERS

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# Dancing and singing

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# That's all I really ever wanted to do

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# Dancing and singing

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# That's all I ever really wanted to do

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-# Keep on

-# Dancing and singing

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# That's all I really ever wanted to do

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# Don't you want to keep singing?

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# Dancing and singing

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# That's all I ever really wanted to do

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# Come on! #

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CHEERING

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# Welcome to another world

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# Look at the water

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# Look at whatever

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# Broke the last one apart

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# Put it back together

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# It didn't matter

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# It's a little biblical

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# A little bit tragic

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# Maybe fantastic

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# Every once in a while

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# Every little thing

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# Every little thing

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# I'm old enough to know

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# I'm holding on for something

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# I'm old enough to see

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# I'm not the only one

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# When we get back to town

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# Back from the islands

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# Back to where I live

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# Well we need to have a word

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# A topic to touch on

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# The topic is touchy

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# Yeah, this is pitiful

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# A lack of reception

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# You never listen

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# I don't need another round

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# Nothing is perfect

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# This isn't worth it

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# I'm old enough to know

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# I'm holding on for something

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# I'm old enough to see

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# I'm not the only one

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# Yeah, smashed it apart

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# The rains wouldn't start

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# Everybody was gone

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# Moving on to the next one

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# I'm old enough to know

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# I'm holding on for something

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# I'm old enough to see

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# I'm not the only one

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# I'm old enough to know

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# I'm holding on for something

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# I'm old enough to see

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# I'm not the only one

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# One

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# One. #

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APPLAUSE

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Band Of Horses,

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A Little Biblical, from their Mirage Rock LP.

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APPLAUSE

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So now, let's go into this corner.

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I love it when we have a lovely international flavour in this room.

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So, now, please welcome, from Lisbon, in Portugal,

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the wonderful Luisa Sobral.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Um, dois, tres...

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# Clementine was born not to be

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# Born not to love

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# Like you and me

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# No-one's ever seen her cry

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# But hidden in her eyes

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# There's a whole wide sea

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# Clementine walks around at night

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# Talks the moonlight into sleep

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# Wakes up slowly taking her time

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# She has no-one to meet

0:26:370:26:42

# No-one wonders where she's from

0:26:420:26:49

# If she's ever had Someone of her own

0:26:490:26:54

# She is just a part of the sea

0:26:540:27:00

# A part of you and me

0:27:000:27:04

# Clementine reads all day long

0:27:320:27:37

# Carries the world Of someone unknown

0:27:370:27:43

# Finds her castle

0:27:430:27:45

# Sits on her throne

0:27:450:27:47

# Then, she is not alone

0:27:470:27:53

# No-one wonders where she's from

0:27:530:27:58

# If she's ever had Someone of her own

0:27:580:28:03

# She is just a part of the sea

0:28:030:28:09

# A part of you and me

0:28:090:28:14

# No-one wonders where she's from

0:28:140:28:19

# If she's ever had Someone of her own

0:28:190:28:24

# She is just a part of the sea

0:28:240:28:30

# A part of you and me

0:28:300:28:35

# Clementine was born...

0:28:410:28:48

not to be. #

0:28:480:28:52

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:28:570:29:01

# That feeling that doesn't go away Just did

0:29:170:29:23

# And I walked a thousand miles To prove it

0:29:230:29:28

# And I'm caught in the crossfire Of my own thoughts

0:29:280:29:34

# The colour of my blood is all I see on the rocks

0:29:340:29:39

# As you sail from me

0:29:390:29:42

# Alarms will ring for eternity

0:29:440:29:50

# The waves will break Every chain on me

0:29:500:29:55

# My bones will bleach

0:29:550:29:58

# My flesh will flee

0:29:580:30:01

# So help my lifeless frame To breathe

0:30:010:30:05

# And God knows I'm not dying But I breathe now

0:30:070:30:13

# And God knows it's the only Way to heal now

0:30:130:30:18

# With all the blood I lost with you

0:30:180:30:23

# It drowns the love I thought I knew

0:30:230:30:30

# The lost dreams are buried In my sleep for him

0:30:300:30:34

# And this was the ecstasy Of a love forgotten

0:30:340:30:40

# And I'm thrown in the gunfire Of empty bullets

0:30:400:30:45

# And my blood is all I see

0:30:450:30:50

# As you steal my soul from me

0:30:500:30:55

# Alarms will ring for eternity

0:30:560:31:01

# The waves will break Every chain on me

0:31:010:31:08

# And God knows I'm not dying But I breathe now

0:31:080:31:13

# And God knows it's the only way To heal now

0:31:130:31:19

# With all the blood I lost with you

0:31:190:31:24

# It drowns the love I thought I knew

0:31:240:31:28

# Oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

0:31:320:31:37

# Oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

0:31:370:31:41

# Oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

0:31:430:31:48

# Oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

0:31:480:31:53

# Oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

0:31:540:31:59

# Oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

0:31:590:32:02

# And God knows I'm not dying But I breathe now

0:32:020:32:08

# And God knows it's the only way To heal now

0:32:080:32:13

# With all the blood I lost with you

0:32:130:32:19

# It drowns the love I thought I knew

0:32:190:32:22

# I thought I knew

0:32:220:32:23

# I thought I knew

0:32:230:32:25

# And God knows I breathe now

0:32:250:32:32

# It's the only way to heal now

0:32:320:32:36

# With all the blood I lost with you

0:32:360:32:39

# I lost with you

0:32:390:32:40

# I lost with you

0:32:400:32:43

# I thought I knew

0:32:430:32:45

# I thought I...

0:32:450:32:46

# Mmmmm, mmmmm, mmmmm

0:32:460:32:52

# Mmmmm, mmmmm, mmmmm. #

0:32:520:32:58

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:32:580:33:03

Thank you, Ellie Goulding!

0:33:050:33:07

And before that,

0:33:080:33:11

thank you, Luisa Sobral.

0:33:110:33:13

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:33:130:33:16

Thanks for the vocalisation... harmonisation there.

0:33:160:33:18

So our next guest has an extraordinary story.

0:33:180:33:21

His career was struggling in the 1970s in America.

0:33:210:33:24

And, unbeknown to him, he had become a huge star in South Africa.

0:33:240:33:29

There's a film all about this amazing story,

0:33:290:33:32

Searching For Sugar Man.

0:33:320:33:33

And he is, who I welcome now, Rodriguez.

0:33:330:33:36

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:33:360:33:38

-Welcome to our show. It's great to see you here.

-Hello, hello.

0:33:380:33:42

So, so you recorded two albums in the early 1970s...

0:33:420:33:47

-Yes.

-..and then, you seem to sort of disappear.

0:33:470:33:50

What happened? Did you stop making music?

0:33:500:33:52

Well, the company went under.

0:33:520:33:54

I...I recorded, in '71, my last album, Coming From Reality,

0:33:540:33:59

and the company went under and, from '74 till '98, I pretty much stayed...

0:33:590:34:04

Except, I stayed at others' music scene,

0:34:040:34:07

-but I did do two tours of Australia.

-Right.

0:34:070:34:10

-So you sort of managed to stay in there a little bit.

-Yes.

0:34:100:34:13

But then, 30 years later,

0:34:130:34:16

-you were contacted by a South African fan...

-Yes.

0:34:160:34:19

..who explained to you that, in South-Africa, you were more popular

0:34:190:34:22

than sort of Elvis or something.

0:34:220:34:24

Well, as the story goes,

0:34:240:34:26

but Steven Sugarman came to my house in Detroit and he showed me CDs

0:34:260:34:31

and he told me about the stories about the fanbase

0:34:310:34:34

of Afrikaans in South Africa,

0:34:340:34:36

and that the first time I knew about that, yes.

0:34:360:34:39

And so, what did you do then, what...you know?

0:34:390:34:41

Well, we planned to go there and, in '98, we did our first tour there.

0:34:410:34:45

And it was pretty amazing. The turnout was like 5,000 seaters.

0:34:450:34:49

-So, from nothing to that, it was pretty...

-That's great.

0:34:490:34:52

Late in your career as well, really, you know, that's...

0:34:520:34:55

Yeah. Some have sold in the '70s and the thing is yeah, yeah,

0:34:550:34:58

so for that to happen...

0:34:580:35:00

So all the people there loved you and loved your music,

0:35:000:35:02

-but what did they think had happened to you?

-Well, the rumours were

0:35:020:35:05

that I had demised different ways.

0:35:050:35:08

Some thought that I had burnt myself on stage and...

0:35:080:35:12

-Burnt yourself on stage?

-Yeah.

-That's strange.

0:35:120:35:14

But how could a rumour like that start without some sort of basis?

0:35:140:35:18

Well, I don't know how it started. Maybe, he went up in smoke

0:35:180:35:21

or went up in a blaze of glory or he burnt out.

0:35:210:35:25

So maybe that was a possible explanation.

0:35:250:35:27

-So they thought you were dead?

-Yes.

0:35:270:35:29

-And that worshiped all this music you'd made.

-Yeah.

0:35:290:35:32

And when they found out you were alive,

0:35:320:35:33

-huge celebrations all round.

-Oh, yeah.

0:35:330:35:35

LAUGHTER

0:35:350:35:36

I've been, I've been down there four times and it's a beautiful country,

0:35:360:35:40

gorgeous people, Afrikaans.

0:35:400:35:42

Well, we've got a little footage of your first concert in South Africa.

0:35:420:35:45

-Oh, OK, yeah. This is from the movie, I think.

-Yeah.

0:35:450:35:47

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:35:470:35:50

MUSIC: "I Wonder" by Rodriguez

0:35:500:35:55

# I wonder how many times You've been had

0:36:070:36:11

# And I wonder how many plans Have gone bad

0:36:110:36:16

# I wonder how many times you had sex

0:36:160:36:20

# And I wonder, do you know Who'll be next?

0:36:200:36:24

# I wonder

0:36:240:36:25

# I wonder

0:36:250:36:27

# Wonder I do... #

0:36:300:36:32

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:36:350:36:38

At your zenith there, and the film of that comes out

0:36:380:36:41

-at the end of December, the DVD comes out.

-Yes.

0:36:410:36:44

And the soundtrack is out already.

0:36:440:36:46

And in the film, Searching for Sugar Man,

0:36:460:36:48

it shows you briefly in London in the early 1970s,

0:36:480:36:51

-what was happening there?

-I had...

0:36:510:36:53

I came to London on the invitation of Steve Rowland,

0:36:530:36:56

he was an actor turned music producer.

0:36:560:36:59

And he produced my second album.

0:36:590:37:01

And we did it in Lansdowne Studios, on Lansdowne Road, and it was...

0:37:010:37:06

We thought it was going to happen, but it didn't happen either, so...

0:37:060:37:09

-So this great success...

-Yes.

-..really comes later in your career.

0:37:090:37:13

Was it much sweeter, would you say, the second time around?

0:37:130:37:15

I think that's one way you could put it, yes.

0:37:150:37:18

And it's better late than never, you know, so...

0:37:180:37:21

-Yeah, and we're delighted to have you here now.

-Thank you so much.

0:37:210:37:23

What are you going to be playing for us in a moment?

0:37:230:37:26

I'm going to do Crucify Your Mind, if that's OK.

0:37:260:37:28

We're looking forward to that very much indeed.

0:37:280:37:30

-Thank you very much for joining us.

-Thank you.

-Rodriguez.

0:37:300:37:32

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:37:320:37:35

And now...

0:37:350:37:36

What an extraordinary story.

0:37:380:37:41

Now, let's welcome, over in this corner, once again, Foals.

0:37:410:37:45

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:37:450:37:48

# You don't have my number

0:38:060:38:07

# We don't need any trouble now

0:38:090:38:13

# We don't need the city

0:38:130:38:15

# Who create all the culture now

0:38:160:38:20

# Cos I feel

0:38:200:38:22

# I feel alive

0:38:220:38:24

# I feel, I feel alive

0:38:240:38:26

# I feel that the streets are All pulling me down

0:38:260:38:32

# So people of the city

0:38:340:38:37

# I don't need your counsel now

0:38:380:38:40

# And I don't need that good advice

0:38:420:38:45

# Cos you don't have my lover's touch

0:38:450:38:49

# You don't have my number

0:38:490:38:53

# We don't need any trouble now

0:38:530:38:55

# Who create all the culture

0:38:560:38:58

# We can move beyond it now

0:39:000:39:02

# The wolf is knocking at my door

0:39:110:39:14

# Them bang-banging ask for more

0:39:140:39:18

# Stand with you, stand tall

0:39:180:39:21

# We could move beyond these walls

0:39:210:39:24

# I don't need your counsel

0:39:240:39:27

# And I don't need that good advice

0:39:290:39:33

# And I don't need no-one now

0:39:330:39:36

# Cos you don't have my lover's touch

0:39:360:39:40

# You don't have my number

0:39:400:39:44

# We don't need any trouble now

0:39:440:39:47

# Who create all the culture

0:39:470:39:49

# You don't have my lover's touch

0:39:510:39:54

# Do you even hear me?

0:40:080:40:11

# Do you even know my name?

0:40:120:40:15

# Let's see the ocean there

0:40:160:40:18

# I'll hold you in my arms tight

0:40:200:40:23

# Can you hear me?

0:40:310:40:33

# I know you're listening now

0:40:350:40:38

# You don't have my number

0:40:380:40:40

# And I don't need no-one else

0:40:420:40:45

# I don't need the city streets

0:40:450:40:49

# Who create all the culture now. #

0:40:490:40:52

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:41:080:41:12

# Was it a huntsman or a player

0:41:440:41:47

# That made you pay the cost

0:41:470:41:49

# That now assumes relaxed positions

0:41:490:41:52

# And prostitutes your loss?

0:41:520:41:54

# Were you tortured by your own thirst

0:41:540:41:57

# In those pleasures that you seek

0:41:570:41:59

# That made you Tom the curious

0:41:590:42:02

# That makes you James the weak?

0:42:020:42:05

# And you claim you've got something going

0:42:150:42:18

# Something you call unique

0:42:210:42:23

# But I've seen your self-pity showing

0:42:260:42:29

# When the tears rolled down your cheeks

0:42:310:42:34

# Soon you know I'll leave you

0:42:440:42:46

# And I'll never look behind

0:42:460:42:49

# Cos I was born for the purpose

0:42:490:42:52

# That crucifies your mind

0:42:520:42:54

# So con, convince your mirror

0:42:540:42:57

# As you've always done before

0:42:570:42:59

# Giving substance to shadows

0:42:590:43:02

# Giving substance ever more

0:43:020:43:05

# But you assume you got something to offer

0:43:140:43:18

# Secrets shiny and new

0:43:200:43:24

# But how much of it is repetition

0:43:260:43:29

# That you didn't whisper to him too. #

0:43:310:43:34

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:460:43:49

Rodriguez.

0:43:540:43:56

Crucify Your Mind (Searching for Sugarman).

0:43:560:43:59

Before that, we enjoyed Foals.

0:43:590:44:03

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:44:030:44:06

Now, let's meet one of the originators of funk music,

0:44:060:44:10

the one and only Mr Larry Graham.

0:44:100:44:12

Welcome to the show.

0:44:120:44:13

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:44:130:44:16

I loved, just when you started, when you started that groove,

0:44:160:44:20

at the beginning of it, suddenly I thought, "This is great."

0:44:200:44:24

It's so great to have you here.

0:44:240:44:26

-I'm going to go back before we go forward a little bit.

-OK.

0:44:260:44:29

Cos, of course, you were one of the originators and one of the key members in Sly and the Family Stone.

0:44:290:44:34

Yes.

0:44:340:44:35

Now that group, really, for me,

0:44:350:44:36

-they're unique, there's nothing else like them.

-Thank you.

0:44:360:44:40

Amazing music.

0:44:400:44:41

It seemed to invent a whole new style.

0:44:410:44:44

What's your take on it when you look back?

0:44:440:44:46

Well, it was a different band for the time.

0:44:460:44:49

It was male and female, black and white,

0:44:490:44:52

we were playing a mixture of all kinds of music and so, you know,

0:44:520:44:58

we were speaking about a lot of the things

0:44:580:45:00

that were relevant during the times

0:45:000:45:02

and people caught on to it,

0:45:020:45:03

and really after Woodstock in front of half a million people

0:45:030:45:08

that just launched our career into high gear.

0:45:080:45:11

Yeah, it was great, cos nothing like it had been before that band.

0:45:110:45:15

Because they seemed to mash up all these different things and your own thing came out.

0:45:150:45:20

One of the things, of course, is your amazing bass style

0:45:200:45:22

which has been much copied by people.

0:45:220:45:26

How did you develop that style?

0:45:260:45:27

Well, my mother and I worked together.

0:45:270:45:29

My mother played piano and singing I played guitar.

0:45:290:45:32

So at this one club we worked at

0:45:320:45:35

they had an organ that had bass pedals and I would play the bass pedals with my foot

0:45:350:45:39

at the same time as playing the guitar,

0:45:390:45:41

so we got used to having the bottom.

0:45:410:45:43

And then the organ broke down

0:45:430:45:44

and now we sounded empty without that bottom.

0:45:440:45:49

I ran bass temporarily until the organ could be repaired.

0:45:490:45:52

It turned out it couldn't be repaired so I got stuck on the bass.

0:45:520:45:56

And them my mother decided, "OK, we're just going to be piano and bass, no drums."

0:45:560:46:01

So now I had to make up for not having the drums

0:46:010:46:04

so I would thump the strings with my thumb

0:46:040:46:06

and pluck it with my fingers, thumbing and plucking. Slap bass, out of necessity.

0:46:060:46:10

Trying to make up for not having drums.

0:46:100:46:12

And inventing a whole new style in the process.

0:46:120:46:15

So recently you were sharing the stage with Prince

0:46:150:46:17

who is on your record.

0:46:170:46:19

How did all that come about?

0:46:190:46:20

He's my really good friend.

0:46:200:46:22

We met about 14 or 15 years ago.

0:46:220:46:24

He was playing the big arena in Nashville, Tennessee

0:46:240:46:27

and I was playing the amphitheatre

0:46:270:46:29

and he heard I was in town

0:46:290:46:31

and invited me to one of his famous after shows.

0:46:310:46:35

And so we went to this club and we jammed together for the first time

0:46:350:46:39

and we just connected immediately

0:46:390:46:40

like we had been playing together for life,

0:46:400:46:43

but what I didn't know is he was raised up on my music through Graham Central Station.

0:46:430:46:48

And then he went back and got into Sly and the Family Stone.

0:46:480:46:52

Now you have got this great new Graham Central Station record come out,

0:46:520:46:57

what can people expect to hear?

0:46:570:46:59

It's lovely to have a record if I may say so.

0:46:590:47:02

-Oh, I love a record.

-Thank you.

0:47:020:47:04

Well, three of the cuts feature Prince,

0:47:040:47:07

and one cut features Raphael Saadiq,

0:47:070:47:11

and there's a remake of Stevie Wonder, my good friend Stevie, Higher Ground.

0:47:110:47:15

And some of the songs we will be performing at the Jazz Cafe here in London on March 5th and 6th.

0:47:150:47:23

If you forget the dates, look at larrygraham.com.

0:47:230:47:26

Exactly!

0:47:260:47:27

I'll never forget the dates!

0:47:270:47:30

What are you going to play for us next?

0:47:300:47:32

We're going to do a combination.

0:47:320:47:35

There's a song called Throw-N-Down The Funk,

0:47:350:47:37

we're going to hit you with that,

0:47:370:47:40

and then going to slip you back in time

0:47:400:47:42

and hit you with a little Dance To The Music.

0:47:420:47:44

Oh, yes!

0:47:440:47:46

It is fantastic to have you here.

0:47:490:47:51

Looking forward to more.

0:47:510:47:52

Larry Graham and Graham Central Station.

0:47:520:47:55

We'll be hearing more later on with his wonderful band.

0:47:550:47:59

Now, we have a wonderful band in every corner of this room.

0:47:590:48:02

We have Band Of Horses.

0:48:020:48:04

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:48:040:48:07

# Listen to the motor getting louder as we go

0:48:070:48:13

# One way or another gonna make it back home

0:48:140:48:21

# Mountains to the water Chewing up the scenery

0:48:270:48:33

# Fog, it only hovers Or the blinding sun beams

0:48:330:48:38

# This is what he does Travelling the open road

0:48:400:48:46

# Get here on the double Make it right away

0:48:530:48:58

# This is what he loves Travelling in the open road

0:48:580:49:06

# Now she's talking dirty I get there in a hurry and see

0:49:120:49:16

# She don't have to worry A secret little birdie told me

0:49:190:49:24

# Keeping things in motion, baby Keep on running for me

0:49:260:49:29

# Only static on the radio Picking up speed

0:49:310:49:39

# Hear me out, Mama I don't mean for you to weep

0:49:440:49:51

# I get back to you tomorrow Now don't you lose sleep

0:49:510:49:56

# This is what he does

0:49:580:50:00

# Travelling the open road

0:50:000:50:07

# Hey, it's nine-thirty My vision's getting blurry and weak

0:50:110:50:17

# I'd get there in a hurry but the police are following me

0:50:170:50:21

# Keep it in perspective Maybe come visit and free me

0:50:240:50:28

# Unit on the interstate Nashville, Tennessee

0:50:300:50:36

# Hey yeah

0:50:360:50:40

# Yeah

0:50:400:50:43

# Yeah, oh

0:50:430:50:46

# Oh

0:50:460:50:50

# Keeping things in motion, baby keep on running for me

0:51:290:51:35

# Only static on the radio picking up speed

0:51:350:51:42

# Hey yeah

0:51:420:51:45

# Hey yeah

0:51:450:51:49

# Hey yeah

0:51:490:51:52

# Oh. #

0:51:520:51:55

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:52:040:52:07

# Only you can be the aching in my heart

0:52:200:52:26

# My enemy The only animal I couldn't fight

0:52:260:52:33

# You hold me in the dark when storms arrive

0:52:330:52:37

# Only you

0:52:370:52:39

# Only you can see the emptiness I feel when you're with me

0:52:390:52:47

# When everything you say I'm on my knees

0:52:470:52:52

# Baby, I'm on my knees Baby, I'm on my knees

0:52:520:52:56

# Baby, I'm on my knees

0:52:560:53:01

# When everything you say I'm on my knees

0:53:070:53:12

# Baby, I'm on my knees Baby, I'm on my knees

0:53:120:53:16

# Baby, I'm on my knees

0:53:160:53:18

# Only you can be the aching in my heart

0:53:180:53:23

# My enemy The only animal I couldn't fight

0:53:230:53:31

# You hold me in the dark when storms arrive

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# Only you

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# Only you can see the emptiness I feel when you're with me

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# When everything you say I'm on my knees

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# Baby, I'm on my knees

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# Baby, I'm on my knees

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# Baby, I'm on my knees

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# When everything you say I'm on my knees

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# Baby, I'm on my knees

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# Baby, I'm on my knees

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# Baby, I'm on my knees

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# Only can be the aching in my heart

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# My enemy, the only animal I couldn't fight

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# You hold me in the dark when storms arrive

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# Only you

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# Only you, only you

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# Only you, only you

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# Only you, only you

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# Only you, only you

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# Only you can be the aching in my heart

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# My enemy, the only animal I couldn't fight

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# You hold me in the dark when storms arrive

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# Only you. #

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Ellie Goulding and Only You.

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Thank you to all our guests,

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thank you, Foals.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Thank you, Luisa Sobral.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Thank you, Band Of Horses.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Thank you, Rodriguez.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Thank you, Jimmy Page.

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We will be back on Tuesday with Sinead O'Connor, Biffy Clyro,

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Mud Morganfield, Courtney Pine, and loads more

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and you can look at more on the website like so and enjoy much more.

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But now I think it's time for me to get funky and really enjoy myself,

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and welcome now Larry Graham and Graham Central Station.

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# Been here, there and everywhere throw-n-down some funk

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# Been here, there and everywhere Throw-n-down some funk

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# Been here, there and everywhere Throw-n-down some funk

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# Been here, there and everywhere Throw-n-down some funk

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# I was there, feeling fine

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# Playing on my guitar

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# Join the drum, feeling fine

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# Let me have my way

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# They call me Jimmy Joy

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# Jamming with my favourite toy

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# Wind me up, I'll play for you

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# I'll be your shining star

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# They call me Graham as in Graham Central Station

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# We're spreading funk Throughout the nation

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Come on! Dance! Come on!

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Everybody get up.

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And dance to the music.

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Come on!

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Get up.

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And dance to the music, come on!

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# Dance to the music

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# Dance to the music

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# Dance to the music

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# Dance to the music

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# All we need is a drummer

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# For people who only need a beat Yeah

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# I'm going to add a little guitar

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# To make it easier to move your feet

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# I'm gonna add some bottom

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# So that the dancers just won't hide

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# You might like to hear my organ

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# I said him, "Ride, Sally, ride"

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# Dance to the music

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# Dance to the music

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# Yeah, yeah

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# Dance to the music

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# Dance to the music. #

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Thank you for letting us be ourselves again.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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