Episode 3 Later... with Jools Holland

It is May. Spring has sprung. Welcome to our show and welcome to

underworld. # The origin of numbers

is a questionable hypothesis # This is the most

ancient form of a sign CHEERING

Delighted to have Underworld back in the studio. Delighted also to have

the dazzling voice of Beverley Knight. From London, please welcome

Savages. From all the way over in New Zealand, Wellcome Marlon

Williams. From east London, Rationale. From Denver, Colorado, we

welcome The Lumineers. # Oh oh when I was younger

Oh oh should have known better # And I can't feel no remorse

and you don't feel nothing back # Oh oh got a new girlfriend

he feels like he's on top # And I don't feel no remorse

and you can't see past my blinders # Oh Ophelia you've been on my mind

girl since the flood # Oh Ophelia heaven help

a fool who falls in love # Oh oh got a little paycheck

you got big plans and you gotta move # Honey I love you

that's all she wrote # Oh Ophelia you've been

on my mind girl like a drug # Oh Ophelia heaven help

a fool who falls in love # Oh Ophelia you've been on my mind

girl since the flood # Oh Ophelia heaven help

a fool who falls in love # Oh Ophelia you've been

on my mind girl like a drug # Oh Ophelia heaven help

a fool who falls in love # APPLAUSE

The Lumineers with Ofere. From their number one LP, Cleopatra. We welcome

back into the studio since their debut performance back in 2012,

we're so pleased to have them here. We welcome, Savages.

# The more you have the more you crave

# Oh how I never managed such level of intensity yeah

# You want to know why I changed my mind

# Sometimes the truth is right there right there

# If you're beautiful here you're beautiful there

# What can I do I'm not gonna hurt you

# So what else what else what else?

Savages! Now, in this corner at the piano a person with one of the great

voices of the day. We are delighted to have those the one and only,

Beverley Knight. Very nice to see you. Especially as you have got this

great record out. What's the story behind this record? I was playing

the role in the west end musical Memphis. It required me to go to

Memphis to do some research. I was really excited. It is Mecca for any

musician. As I was going around, seeing the place, the home of rock

'n' roll. It inspired me so much, I've got to come back here and do my

album here. It inspired me to do a whole new slew of songs to write.

Once you were inspired, what did you want to do? I visited lots of

studios. The one place I went to that gave me the chills was Royal

Studio where Hi records was based. People like Al Karim, and Peebles. I

wanted to capture that earthy sound of southern Memphis soul. You've

managed to capture that lightning in a bottle and bring it back. You've

covered an amazing version of an Aretha Franklin song. It's Don't

Play That Song. What you like about that song? She was born and raised a

little bit in Memphis. She was a vocal game change. When she came

along, any female artist who had a touch of soul blues followed in her

path. Me included. See is just so special. That song, the way she

plays it is really jaunty and lively sounding but I have taken it back to

the heartbreak. We have a bit of Aretha Franklin playing Don't Play

That Song. # Don't play that song for me

# Because it brings back memories # Of days I once knew

# Those days I spent with you # Don't feel that way.

# Don't take the heart ache away # Because I remembered just what you

said #. APPLAUSE What a strange coincidence... In the

Trocadero they have cast off people's hands. They have mine and

hers and they are indistinguishable, they are twin hands. It's strange,

isn't it? The other thing is, you went on mastermind and Prince was

your chosen specialist subject. We dedicated last week's show to him.

Was he an important influence on you? He was the biggest by Miles the

biggest influence. The way I wanted to write songs, the way I arrange my

background vocals, the way I perform. There wasn't an aspect of

what he did that I didn't want to then do and I felt that way since I

was nine and I'm a lot older than nine now. Sweet. The other thing is,

on this record, you've gone back right into the depths of the song,

and you found a big Mama Thornton song which a lot of people might not

know. They might now be done by others. Stripped back band. We'll

hear it later. It's a great record. Thanks for joining us, Beverley

Knight. We'll have our moments of the blues.

I'm always happy to have elements of the blues with Beverley Knight,

later in the programme. A superb artist over here. We welcome

Rationale. # Everybody speeds

in the fast lane truly now # Revving through the gears

trying to keep ourselves # Take a look in your

heart and your soul # We're so caught up in the riddle

and we suffer for so little oh lord # Holding back the tears on the last

train homeward bound # It's been 27 years and you've only

now just figured out how # You can give him your

heart and your soul # You can give him every

ounce that you are # But when you're

caught up in the riddle # Man your pride ain't

worth a nickel no no #. # I'm braving through the tears, I'm

braving through the tears APPLAUSE

CHEERING Thank you, Rationale! How's

everybody over there, all right? In this corner we have a wonderful

artist who combines his family Maori upbringing with his classical

choirboy training. We welcome Marlon Williams.

# It's funny how I lose my mind when you come around

# And she knows when I hide when you come knocking at the door

# Miss Lonesome's in the eyes of almost everyone you meet

# It was when my daughter said goodbye and took the bus

# Now we all pick our poison and we dig our grave

# And Jesus is accountable to every soul he saves

# Miss Lonesome I see you back in town

# It's funny how I lose my mind when you come around

APPLAUSE Thank you, Marlon Williams! Hello

Miss Lonesome, Marlon Williams. Let's come to the centre of the

room. With Underworld. # Stare stare like a bear

then you'll know me anywhere # Still though

tiny stars your shoes appear # Stare stare like a bear

call your mother Ginger Hair # Stare stare like a bear then

you'll know me anywhere # Stare stare like a bear

call your mother Ginger Hair # Stare stare like a bear

then you'll know me anywhere # Stare stare like a bear

call your mother Ginger Hair # Stare stare like a bear then

you'll know me anywhere # Stare stare like a bear

call your mother Ginger Hair # Stare stare like a bear

call your mother Ginger Hair # Stare stare like a bear

call your mother Ginger Hair # You can wag your tail

but I ain't gonna feed you no more # You'd told me you was high-class

but I can see you there # And I know you ain't

no real cool cat # All you looking

for is your new home # You just an old hound dog

snooping round my door # You can wag your tail but I ain't

gonna feed you no more #. APPLAUSE

The wonderful Beverley Knight. With Hound Dog from assault still. Before

that, we enjoyed the! Underworld. Next, once again, we welcome The

Lumineers. # When you left this town

with your windows down # Let the exits pass

all the tar and glass # They raise you up

just to cut you down # And your Volvo lights

lit up green and white # But you held your course

to some distant war # Were you safe and warm

in your coat of arms # Did you hear the notes

all those static codes # They raise you up

just to cut you down # Oh Angela spent your

whole life running away # Vacancy hotel room

lost in me lost in you # Angela on my knees

I belong I believe APPLAUSE

The Lumineers. With Angella. From their album Cleopatra. Now,

delighted in their music there and now, they're seated over here. Let's

give it up for Rick Smith and Karl Hyde of Underworld. Sounding

excellent. Your first new record for nearly six years. In that time, have

you been ruminating on what to do? What's been going on? Yes.

Radically. We did the opening ceremony of the Olympics. That was a

huge thing. It was quite large. Was that an enjoyable thing to be doing?

Yes it was. Fantastic scale. The thing I like about it was all my

sceptical mate saying it was never going to work and the next day

saying, fair enough, it worked. It was an incredible spectacle. How did

that come about? Through Danny Boyle. We were working at the

National Theatre on Frankenstein. He said I have a little project and a

big project. I thought of the big project was Frankenstein. And the

little one was his children's party. We often do that. It turned out

different. He asked us to get involved and we couldn't say no. It

was a huge success. You been working together now for 35 years. Is it

easier now than ever, or... That's the easiest question about the

length of the relationship. Yes, it is easier. Has it been easy all the

time? Whose fault is that? A little bit of this, a little bit of that.

There's a creative thing in that 35 years. Does whatever is going to

inspire you to make the records ever change? It is the challenge. It is a

constant challenge with Rick. He is always pushing. To say it is never

good enough sounds really negative but that is music to my ears to hear

him say those kind of things. Always pushing, always challenging.

Whenever we get together it is never the same. You have got this new

record. Barbara, Barbara We Face A Shining Future. This incredible

sleeve, it appears to be brushstrokes but then we discover

that there is a face behind the brushstrokes. Is it somebody that we

know? It is the daughter of the artist. A friend of ours, Simon

Taylor from Tomato. A very beautiful young lady. I can see just from

high-rise. Take it from ours. At the end of the show, you are going to be

performing Born Slippy. It is a great anthem. A folk song. It is.

The great singalong. It is a great 90s and from when there was a lot of

music, a lot of it in films and that sort of thing. When you look back on

it. It is a while ago. How do you view that period? It was a really

magic time. We were lucky to be part of that. It was the last of the

magic times, just making stuff up. Rick selling records out of the back

of the car which led to as headlining festivals. Those things

should never have come about. Walking through Soho in the mid-90s

saying, I think it is happening right now. We are here. We had a

mystic guru on the show. He said, if things happen in the future it will

always be great and in the past. But he said, Paradise is now. Do you

agree? Lock. It is here now. Where else could it be? It's a great

record. Hopefully it will be a success all over the world and later

we will be hearing Born Slippy. Thank you very much. We will be

hearing more from you later on. APPLAUSE

I like these people and their vibrations. Let's enjoyed Savages.

# Weightlessness vertigo climax on the go

# Surrender Surrender Surrender Surrender #.

# When I was a young girl I used to see pleasure

# When I was a young girl I used to drink ale

# Staying out of the ale house and into the jail house

# Straight from the bar room to my doom

# Don't send for the preacher to come and pray for me

# Don't send for the doctor to heal up my

# My poor heart is aching my heart it is breaking

# My body salve-aided and hell is my home

# When I was a young girl I used to see pleasure

# When I was a young girl I used to drink ale

# Straight out of the ale house and into the jail house

# Straight from the bar room to my doom

APPLAUSE CHEERING

The remarkable voice of Marlon Williams! When I was a Young Girl

from his album. Before that, the Savages. Only a short step for

mankind and an even shorter one for me to get over here to Rationale.

# Imagine if we had a choice yeah I bet we'd add fuel to the fire

# What would we say that'd just deny us?

# Gone are the days of virtue and honor

# Rights that we fought for burn down the wall

# Let it never be said that we truly learned from darker days

# Pressure it keeps falling on my shoulders from high and low

# Ain't no justice in these moments but we'll find comfort

# When kingdom comes They are bleeding you

# Of every right we've ever earned until we have nowhere to turn

# They add fuel to the fire upon other days of virtue and honor

# Rights that we fought for burn down the wall

# Let it never be said that we truly learned from darker days

# Pressure it keeps falling on my shoulders from high and low

# Ain't no justice in these moments but we'll find comfort

# Bleeding you they are bleeding you they are bleeding you

# If we go searching for hand held justice

# That's what they want so keep on fighting

# When kingdom comes we'll all find comfort

# On my shoulders from high and low ain't no justice in these moments

# But we'll find comfort when kingdom comes

# Pressure it keeps falling on my shoulders from high and low

# Ain't no justice in these moments but we'll find comfort

APPLAUSE CHEERING

# I don't own a single gun but if I did you'd be the one

# To hold it aim it make all of the bad men run

# But if I did I'd break my neck to please her

# Make her want to stay in my arms she'd rest

# I can't believe what I found in daddy's

# It was a pistol a Smith Wesson holy holy shit

# And one day I pray I'll be more than my father's son

The Lumineers! From their number one LP. Before that we enjoyed

Rationale. And now, with the wonderful folk anthem of the 1990s

which they broke and everybody enjoyed, we have Underworld!

# Drive boy dog boy Dirty numb angel boy

# In the doorway boy She was a lipstick boy

# You had hands girl boy and steel boy

# Boy and you just groan boy She said come over come over

# Drive boy dog boy dirty numb angel boy

# You had hands girl boy and steel boy

# I've grown so close to you boy and you just groan boy

# She said come over come over she smiled at you boy

# Let your feelings slip boy but never your mask boy

# Random blonde bio high density rhythm

# Blonde boy blonde country blonde high density

# You are my drug boy you're real boy

# Speak to me and boy dog dirty numb cracking boy

# Babes and babes and babes and babes and babes

# And remembering nothing boy you like my tin horn boy and get

# Wonderful and hot times on your telephone line

# And god and everything on your telephone

# And in walk an angel and look at me your mom

# Squatting pissed in a tube hole at Tottenham Court Road

# I just come out of the ship talking to the most

# Mega mega white thing mega mega white thing

# So many things to see and do in the tube hole true

# Mega mega mega going back to Romford

# Hi mum are you having fun and now are you on your way

APPLAUSE Wonderful. Thank you, Underworld,

with Born Slippy. Look at our website, of interesting things

there. We'll be back live on Tuesday with Sir Elton John, Corinne Bailey

Rae, Bloc party and much more. We bid you all farewell and invite

Underworld to start off some delightful underpinning which we can

build on. Thank you. If you've got something you need... All right,

thank you to all of my guests, thank you Underworld! CHEERING

Thank you, The Lumineers! Thank you, Rationale! Thank you, Marlon

Williams! Thank you, Savages! And thank you, Beverley Knight!