20/03/2016 Songs of Praise


20/03/2016

John Craven joins Archbishop John Sentamu on his six-month-long pilgrimage through the Diocese of York, and best-selling Irish singer Enya performs from All Hallows College.


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Hello, and today on Songs Of Praise,

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I'm about to join a very special pilgrimage

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with the Archbishop of York, John Sentamu.

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-Lovely to see you.

-Nice to see you, John.

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You've already been pounding the roads, haven't you?

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For 76 days. And today, you're in Hull. So may I join you?

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Yes, please, you're welcome.

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The locals have turned out to support the Archbishop,

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and he gets questioned by some straight-talking schoolchildren.

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What's it like to be an Archbishop?

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# Sail away, sail away, sail away... #

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She was born in Donegal, she now lives in Dublin.

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I'm in Ireland's capital city to meet up with

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one of the world's bestselling artists, Enya.

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JOHN: And she'll be giving us a special performance.

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While Aled is looking ahead to our annual school choirs competition.

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-Out of 10, how brilliant were you?

-10!

-10!

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THEY ALL CHEER

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And as well as all the walking,

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we've got a great selection of hymns for you,

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including one chosen by the Archbishop himself.

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And as today marks the start of Holy Week,

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we open, very fittingly, with a gospel song from Birmingham.

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The Archbishop of York, John Sentamu,

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one of the most senior leaders in the Church of England,

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is spending six months out on the road.

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He's on a pilgrimage to the Diocese of York,

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an area of nearly 3,000 square miles.

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The Archbishop will be visiting all 21 Deaneries in the Diocese.

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He began last December in Whitby.

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He'll end eventually in York,

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and he's travelled through coast and dale

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in all weathers to reach Hull.

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It's quite an undertaking for the 66-year-old,

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who's now over halfway into his 2,000 mile journey.

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Well, you're better kitted out than I am.

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Well, I've been walking for three months, so I should know!

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I caught up with the Archbishop on the latest leg

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of his pilgrimage through the streets of Hull.

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You know, I can't help thinking that pilgrimage, to me,

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in this context, is a bit of a strange word

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because I think of a pilgrimage as going

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on a journey to a holy place.

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And you're walking around your Diocese.

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Well, simply because Christians, by nature, are called pilgrims.

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They are always journeying towards God.

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And what I am trying to let the Diocese,

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that it should also go on a journey towards God, towards one another.

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I also happen to think that every place is holy because God made it.

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The pilgrimage has generated quite a buzz amongst the locals.

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Come on, wave! Come on, John, you have to as well. Hello!

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-Hi.

-Are you all right? What's her name?

-This is Emily.

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-Emily! You are lovely.

-Yeah.

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Good, I'm glad you know you are lovely!

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Here are some bookmarks, one is for you, hello?

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And one is for Mum.

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-Thank you.

-OK?

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-Have a good day, bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

-Take care.

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-Whoo!

-THEY ALL LAUGH

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As well as chance encounters,

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Archbishop Sentamu has some scheduled shops,

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visiting a range of community projects to offer his support.

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His next calling point is the local Methodist church,

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and the Open Doors project,

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which provides practical help to asylum seekers.

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Why is it important to you to visit a centre like this?

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We are bidded in Scripture

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to always look after the stranger within your gaze.

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Hence the words of Open Door, that strangers,

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we should look after them, care for them,

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and I believe that the Church should be in places

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where no-one really wants to go.

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This is a subject close to the Archbishop's heart,

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as he came to Britain in 1974

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seeking asylum from Idi Amin's Uganda.

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Hello, Bashir. Come on, give us a hug, come on.

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-You're all right?

-Yes, thank you.

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'Having the Church authority

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'and Church leadership is a great honour for us.'

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And this project is very important to me,

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because being a Christian, it gives me opportunity

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to put my faith into practice.

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To feed those who are hungry and help those who are in need.

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The centre also offers advice and basic English language classes.

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It's a fairly crude assessment, that I say,

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how much English do you know?

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And if people go...

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That's the first group.

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This is the second group, and their English is a lot better.

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So we explore slightly different subjects.

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THEY SING IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE

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Later in the programme,

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Archbishop Sentamu demonstrates his musical skills

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and he goes back to school.

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Well, now here's a hymn that the Archbishop has chosen himself,

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and it's being sung here in Yorkshire.

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Now, we have a rare interview with an artist

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whose voice is instantly recognisable.

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Claire McCollum has been to meet her.

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# Sail away, sail away, sail away... #

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Enya has sold over 80 million albums.

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She cites her own musical influences

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as classical, Irish and church music.

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So it's very fitting that she's going to perform for us today

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in the beautiful and historic chapel here at All Hallows College.

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This college dates back to 1842,

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when a seminary was founded to train priests for missionary work.

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I was delighted to be able to have a chat with Enya

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about her music, life and faith.

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# Who can say where the road goes?

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# Where the day flows?

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# Only time... #

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Enya doesn't live her life in the glare of publicity.

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You're a very private person yourself,

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but what is it, do you think, about your music

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that connects with so many people right around the world?

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It's a good question, because from the first album, Watermark,

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to me, all the songs were very diverse.

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I was singing in Gaelic, I was singing in Latin.

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Orinoco Flow is what everybody heard firstly,

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but when they bought the album, it was very different.

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# Let me sail, let me sail

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# Let the Orinoco flow

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# Let me reach, let me beach... #

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'What I felt for the listener

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'is that they seemed to enjoy the songs first,'

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and then they seemed to interpret their own emotions with the song.

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And then the song became their song.

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What does that mean to you, knowing that your music

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has such a wonderful effect on so many people

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in times of maybe trouble,

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or things that they're going through, that just help them?

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To me, when I write a melody, firstly,

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it's something emotionally that I feel strong about.

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And I want to capture this moment in a melody.

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And for me, it's very personal then.

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# What a day, what a day To take to... #

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'You know, I've heard people have gotten married to the music,

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'people who are meditating listen to the music.

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'And I feel that that is so wonderful.'

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That is really an extra bonus

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to sort of working on something that is very important to me.

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You come from one of the most beautiful places in the world.

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Do you think you draw on

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your experiences in Donegal in your music?

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Very much so. Very much so.

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Any time I go home, I can see where the inspirations are

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for some of the songs, has carried through the years with me.

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At four years of age, going into the choir in the church,

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and that's a big influence to me, Gregorian chant,

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singing in Latin, singing in Gaelic.

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# Hallelujah

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# Halle, halle, hallelujah... #

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I'm not aware at the moment, you know, when I go to the studio,

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what will evolve musically.

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But definitely the inspirations of Donegal are there.

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And you talk about church music being a huge influence as well,

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how important is faith in your life?

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It's something to me, I feel a very spiritual person.

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And I feel very comfortable to go to a church.

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It's very therapeutic to sit there, light a candle, and pray.

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It's a moment where you think of other people,

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and I feel that that's something that will stay with me.

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You're going to perform for us today, which is very special.

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Tell us about the song you're going to sing.

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It's taking a moment on, really the influence of your parent,

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as such, when you lose a parent.

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It's more sort of celebration of the moment rather than

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the loss of the parent, because they were there to guide you.

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Their hopes are there for you, they held you high,

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they wanted the best for you, and this is what the song is about.

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# A thousand dreams you gave to me

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# You held me high

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# You held me high

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# And all those years you guided me

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# So I could find my way

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# So, let me give this dream to you

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# Upon another shore

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# So, let me give this dream to you

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# Each night and evermore

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# Yet only time keeps us apart

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# You held me high

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# You held me high

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# You're in the shadows of my heart

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# So I can find my way

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# Mmmm-mmm-mmm

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# Mmmm-mmmmmm

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# You held me high

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# You held me high

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# Mmmm-mmm-mmm

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# Mmmm-mmmmmm

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# Mmmmm-mmmm

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# Mmmm

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# So, let me give this dream to you

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# Upon another shore

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# So, let me give this dream to you

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# Each night and evermore

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# A thousand dreams you gave to me

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# You held me high

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# You held me high

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# And all those years you guided me

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# So I could find my way

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# So I could find my way. #

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Coming up, Aled goes behind the scenes

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of this year's School Choir Of The Year competition.

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But first, at the start of Holy Week,

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our next hymn tells the story of Palm Sunday.

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It's one of the most exciting weekends

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in the Songs Of Praise calendar, we look forward to it all year.

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Welcome to Sheffield, we're at the City Hall

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and when the choirs arrived this morning, let me tell you,

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excitement was sky-high, they hadn't even stepped onto stage yet.

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The day is the culmination of months of hard work

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and preparation for the choirs.

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They've been rehearsing their pieces at school

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whenever they've had a moment.

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Here in Sheffield, the choirs have a busy day with a tight schedule

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of rehearsals before the competition starts.

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But there's still plenty of time to get to know the other choirs

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as they all relax together in the holding room.

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Hello!

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Wow, there's tonnes of them. Come on!

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Hi! Have you been on stage yet?

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-ALL:

-Yes.

-How did it go?

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-ALL:

-Good!

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-Out of ten, how brilliant were you? ALL:

-Ten!

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Ten.

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-Are you nervous?

-Yes!

-No!

-Yes!

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Yes, says this one. No, says that one.

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The judges tasked with the really tough job of choosing

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the winners this year are Katherine Jenkins...

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I think the standard is going to be incredibly high.

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I think that we've got a great tradition in the UK

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for choral singing and I think that actually these children are going to

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probably blow our socks off in terms of what they can actually produce.

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..choral expert Ken Burton...

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Over the last couple of decades,

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I've been involved in choral competitions

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and I've just seen how choirs have grown

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and they've become a lot more ambitious.

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So I'm really looking forward to seeing what the choirs

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are going to pull out of the hat this time.

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..and our very own Connie Fisher.

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-Hiya!

-How are you?

-I'm all right, how are you?

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Gosh, you judges get a nice dressing room, don't you?

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-Make-up on you.

-Make-up...

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Firstly, as a judge, why do you need six pairs of shoes?

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You can never have too many pairs of shoes.

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-I suppose not. Are you looking forward to this?

-I am.

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-First time.

-First time, yes, I feel, you know, honoured actually

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to be sat in the chair. I feel quite, you know...

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-I'm sat next to Katherine Jenkins.

-Yeah?

-I'm really nervous.

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-And Ken Burton as well.

-I know. They're going to out-glam me!

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Not possible.

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-It's quite a nerve-racking thing though, isn't it?

-It is.

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It's the responsibility because all throughout the year,

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they're putting so much effort into singing one song to impress us

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and you think, "Well, I'm not really worthy",

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but actually I grew up in a choir and I know what it's like.

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And you're no stranger to competitions.

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Well, yeah, I feel their nerves.

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I know what it's like to go out there thinking,

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"I really want to win this", and so, yeah, I'm really feeling for them.

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I tell you what, it's gearing up to be a fabulous competition

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with all these guys.

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It all starts on April 3rd, keep watching, you'd be mad to miss it.

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Until then, here are the Junior Winners from 2013.

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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-# Jericho

-Joshua

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-# Jericho

-Joshua fought the battle

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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-# As the walls came a-tumbling down

-In the morning

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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-# Jericho

-Joshua

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-# Jericho

-Joshua fought the battle

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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# As the walls came a-tumbling down

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# You may talk about your kings of Gideon

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# You may talk about your men of Saul

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# But there's none like good old Joshua

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# At the battle of Jericho

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# I'm singing

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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-# Jericho

-Joshua

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-# Jericho

-Joshua fought the battle

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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-# As the walls came a-tumbling down

-In the morning

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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-# Jericho

-Joshua

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-# Jericho

-Joshua fought the battle

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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# As the walls came a-tumbling down

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# Then up to the walls of Jericho

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# They marched with spear in hand

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# Now blow your trumpets, Joshua cried

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# For the battle is in my hand

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# I'm singing

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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-# Jericho

-Joshua

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-# Jericho

-Joshua fought the battle

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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-# As the walls came a-tumbling down

-In the morning

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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-# Jericho

-Joshua

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-# Jericho

-Joshua fought the battle

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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# As the walls came a-tumbling down

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# Joshua

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# Fought the battle of Jericho

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# Joshua

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# Fought the battle of Jericho

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# Joshua

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# Fought the battle of Jericho

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# The walls came tumbling down

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# Joshua fought the battle of Jericho

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# And the walls came a-tumbling down. #

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Today, we've been accompanying the Archbishop of York,

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John Sentamu,

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on his six-month pilgrimage around the Dioceses of York.

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THEY SING

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He's at the Open Doors project in Hull

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where he's livening things up by joining the centre's music session.

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Cecil came here from Sierra Leone ten years ago

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and he's now a volunteer.

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The very first day I stepped my feet into Hull, I mean,

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I was lost in terms of direction but when I got here,

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I was received with open hands

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and I was shown the way

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and I thought, you know, it's a place to be

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and I decided to give my time, my everything,

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as a volunteer and give every support.

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Most of us have received much and we need to freely give

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and put back more than actually what we take out

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so I'm very glad that you are following that particular rule.

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-Thank you.

-OK?

-Yes, I am, I am proud of it as well

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and I'm following your footsteps. Maybe one day I'll be where you are.

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THEY LAUGH

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The pilgrimage continues as the Archbishop turns his attention

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to the future generation and the children at Thoresby Primary School.

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Welcome to Thoresby and you are now part of Team Thoresby.

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-Am I?

-How about that?

-But I haven't got the uniform.

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But he does change into something more befitting

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as he takes questions from the children.

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What is your really important job?

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You know, I don't believe I'm doing a job.

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I believe I have been called by God, first of all, to know him,

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secondly, to love him,

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and then to tell other people about him

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and then to serve the poor in the world.

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That's what I see.

0:26:280:26:30

Why do you work at churches?

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-When I turn up to church, I'm going to a party.

-Oh.

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A very big celebration of joy, of hope.

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'Young people have a way of simplicity,

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'they tell it like it is but the energy and the drive,'

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Paul says to young Timothy,

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"Let nobody despise your youth because you are young",

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because you've got gifts and abilities

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and all our children are young people,

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each has a talent and a gift.

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So when I come into the schools, I go away energised

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full of hope, full of gladness and I think it's wonderful.

0:27:040:27:08

Out in the playground, the questions become a little more personal.

0:27:080:27:12

-Huh?

-Cheese or ham?

-Which one do you prefer?

0:27:120:27:14

-Cheese or ham?

-At the moment, I'm, er....

0:27:140:27:18

-It's cheese.

-CHEERING

0:27:180:27:20

Why did you become the Archbishop of York?

0:27:200:27:23

I was asked by the Queen.

0:27:230:27:25

What's it like to be an Archbishop?

0:27:250:27:27

It's like any job with responsibility,

0:27:270:27:31

it's got wonderful things in it and difficult things in it.

0:27:310:27:34

And it's a really good job because you actually help the world.

0:27:340:27:37

-Yeah, yeah, exactly.

-That's what I've always wanted to do.

0:27:370:27:40

-OK, maybe you'll end up being a bishop, huh?

-Yeah.

0:27:400:27:42

-Are you going to be one of those?

-I'd try.

0:27:420:27:45

Yeah, you'll try to. That's good news.

0:27:450:27:47

There you go.

0:27:480:27:50

He'll never forget that, a high-five from the Archbishop.

0:27:500:27:52

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

-THEY LAUGH

0:27:520:27:54

SCHOOL BELL RINGS

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Well, that's the end of the school day

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but it's certainly not the end of your pilgrimage, is it?

0:28:000:28:02

-No, it isn't.

-What do you think you've learnt so far?

0:28:020:28:05

The beauty of Yorkshire,

0:28:050:28:07

the amazing people that I've been encountering

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and the gospel of Jesus Christ is still very much alive.

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And this, of course, is the start of Holy Week,

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what does it really mean to you?

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Well, Holy Week, of course, begins with Jesus' triumphal entry

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into Jerusalem where the children gather

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and they're singing and shouting, "Hosanna, hosanna!",

0:28:270:28:30

meaning, "Save us now, Lord".

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And that triumphal entry, I'm afraid, on a Friday,

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ends in his crucifixion.

0:28:360:28:38

Thank you for letting me join in your pilgrimage.

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You've still got a long way to go, though, don't you?

0:31:090:31:11

Yes, a long way to go until the 22nd of May

0:31:110:31:13

-but it's been a pleasure walking with you.

-Thank you.

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Well, next week it's Easter Sunday and Pam Rhodes will be

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going behind the scenes of the Poole Passion Play in Dorset

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to discover how it's changed the lives of those taking part.

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Until then, it is our closing hymn for Palm Sunday.

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Goodbye and God bless.

0:31:290:31:31

John Craven joins Archbishop John Sentamu on his six-month-long pilgrimage through the Diocese of York, and best-selling Irish singer Enya performs from All Hallows College.


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