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Well, I've come to Halifax in West Yorkshire, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
and I have to admit, I haven't got a clue where I'm going next. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
I was told to prepare for an unusual journey | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
and to come here and await further instructions. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
All very mysterious. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
Oh, thanks. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
"Welcome, Mr Jones, to a marvellous mystery trail. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
"You must follow the clues and be sure not to fail. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
"Prepare for a journey uphill and through vale | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
"as you explore the place called Calderdale." | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
At least it rhymes. Better get going, I suppose. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
So, join me as I set off into the unknown | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
on a tour of this beautiful part of Yorkshire. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
I'll be meeting some fascinating people along the way | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
and there'll be some wonderful hymns. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Well, it wouldn't be Songs Of Praise without them. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
The River Calder has flowed through the rugged landscape of West Yorkshire | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
for thousands of years, winding its way down from the glorious South Pennine moorland | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
into the Calder Valley, which is part of wider Calderdale. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
Lining the Dale are textile towns and villages that flourished during the Industrial Revolution | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
and still remain close communities today. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Halifax, Calderdale's largest town, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
has its own proud industrial heritage | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
and a rich musical tradition. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
This building, blackened by centuries of industry, has been at its heart for 900 years. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:40 | |
MUSIC: "Jerusalem" by Sir Hubert Parry | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
Once Halifax's parish church, it was recently given the title Halifax Minster, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
and it's where congregations and choirs from all over the area have gathered | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
to sing our hymns this week. The first one is Immortal Invisible. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
Back on my quest, I reckoned what I needed was another clue, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
and, sure enough, I found it, a few miles from Halifax, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
in the town of Hebden Bridge. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
"Be sure to pack a raincoat to keep the weather at bay, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
"as many modes of transport will take you on your way. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
"On foot, on wheels, on water onward like an arrow, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
"but first go to the boat that is so long and narrow." | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
I think I'm in the right place! | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
DUCKS QUACK | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
This is the way to travel, is it? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
It really is, isn't it? It's a wonderful, unique place, Aled. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
I'm delighted you've come to see it because this is where I live | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
and I've lived for 40 years. I absolutely love it. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
When you move into this valley, it's a whole different culture. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
And it always has been. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
If you were here 1,400 years ago, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
this was the ancient Celtic kingdom of Elmet | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
and when you pass over here, you'd have to speak Welsh. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
-You'd know all about that. -That's why I'm feeling at home, obviously! | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
So, Calderdale, where does it start and where does it end? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
If you go to the other side of Todmorden, we all call it Tod here. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
So it starts there and ends...? | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
Starts there and if you go the other way, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
you go to the other side of Brighouse and the canal goes right through. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
Some of the place names, even for a Welshman, they're pretty bizarre. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
Oh, yes! I was talking to evacuees who came here from Brighton during the war | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
and he said he'd never been able to say Mytholmroyd properly! | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
THEY BOTH LAUGH | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
What's so special about Calderdale? | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
Well, it's an area that's changed immensely | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
because if you came here, say, 50, 60 years ago even, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
there'd be mills as far as the eye could see. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
This was the cradle of the Industrial Revolution here | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
and they were handloom-weaving in the villages up there. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
And when you go wandering now through those little valleys that come down into the Calder Valley, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
you can still see the old ruins of the mills and that. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
It's a wonderful place to go walking. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
There are things that still exist here, there are practices, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
there are traditions, that have died out elsewhere. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
There's a lot of eccentric people, a lot of very arty people, actually. That's probably why I'm here! | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
These clues are getting more and more mysterious. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
And more and more off the beaten track. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
I've now come up into the hills where I'm supposed to find a rather different mode of transport. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
And before I knew it, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
round the corner cycled mountain bike instructor Stephen Hall. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
Going back a long, long time, a guy lent me a mountain bike for a day. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
He says, "Have a go at this, it's going to be the next big thing." | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
I had a go and I thought, "That's fantastic." | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
And then I met Ruth, who's now my wife. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
She was a local Mytholmroyd lass, so just down the road from here. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
And she took me out on these trails and I've stayed... | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
LAUGHS ..and just ridden here ever since. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
What do you get out of it, would you say? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Partly it's a really good workout. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
It's in a relatively safe environment in that it's away from cars. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
You get to see this fantastic scenery in complete peace and quiet. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
You're away from the crowds, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
you've just got the sound of the wind, the curlews, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
the grouse across the moorlands. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
And it's just a complete escape. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
It's funny. My wife, when she was at church on Sunday, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
one of the chaps asked her, "Where does your husband worship?" | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
And she says, "In the great outdoors. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
"There's no roof on his church." | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
You look at this scenery and you think, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
well, as an ex-geography teacher, I can explain it | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
by river processes and climatic change and all things like that, | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
but really, just looking at it, the whole is far greater than the sum of the parts. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
And as a local man, Ted Hughes, the ex-poet laureate, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
he had a poem called Moors, and the opening line was, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
"Moors are a stage for the performance of heaven." | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
And, you know, when you see the light shafting down through the clouds, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
it really is quite an experience | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
and it's far more than just being out on a bike. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
-So what's the best thing about being a mountain-biker here? -The hills. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
-Really? -The hills. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
You get fit going up them and you have an absolutely fantastic time going down them again. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
Here's the plan. I'll do the downhill bits and you can do the uphill bits. How's that? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
-Have a look at some of the downhill bits and see if you really want to have a go. -Really? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
'One of the reasons that it's so good here is as we're not a National Park, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
'we don't get hundreds of thousands of people piling in | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
'like places like the Lake District and the Peak District at weekends.' | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
It's one of those places that you could ride forever | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
and still be exploring and finding new places. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
It's a relatively small area | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
but it's absolutely riddled with bridleways | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
and it means that whatever your ability, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
you can find something that's really good to ride. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
And I think part of the motivation is getting people to realise | 0:11:17 | 0:11:23 | |
that themselves and the bike are a team. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
You can be going at speeds up to 30, 40 miles an hour in quite rough terrain, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
and if you do come off, it can be quite painful, to say the least. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
You find that... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
you more tend to lose yourself | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
just in the environment and in the sounds. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
You become far more acutely aware of everything that's around, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
whether it's the birdsong or just tiny bits of the landscape, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
and, yeah, it is quite a spiritual experience going out and riding | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
in those sorts of conditions. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
"Another clue, another rhyme | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
"For now, you must step back in time | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
"Discover the truth of an ancient tale | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
"of a man whose name is a brand-new ale." | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
Any idea? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
Sounds good, though, doesn't it? Come on. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Inside the pub, I found that the local ale is named after the Archbishop of York. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
Not the current one, but an early Christian missionary, Paulinus. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
Three years ago, we were researching into early Christianity, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
and Paulinus was part of the Augustine mission to Britain - 627 - | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
and we discovered, to our amazement, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
that he spent most of his time in northern Britain. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
And the more we explored, we felt, "Well, how has this man been so forgotten?" | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
He converted thousands and thousands and thousands of people. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:09 | |
And we thought, "Well, how had this man spread all of the word?" | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
And it was literally by walking mile after mile, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
connecting one place to another. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
He, basically, was definitely known to be in Dewsbury, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
and definitely known to be in Burnley and Whalley on the other side. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
And so, thinking, "How did he get across?" | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Obviously it was through Todmorden Gap, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
across the old Neolithic ways, and we found a Paulinus-style cross, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:41 | |
to our amazement, up on the moors above Todmorden. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
We hoped that we could open a new pilgrim way. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
And we looked through the old maps and the old routes | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
and we found that we could find a walkway in most of the area, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
from Todmorden to York, so we set about organising a festival | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
and goodness knows what with all the people of Todmorden behind us. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
We then had all the community getting involved. It sort of grew. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
And we had the Lord Bishop of Wakefield coming along, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
wanting to be involved, and supporting us from the beginning. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
We had the Archbishop of York, John Sentamu, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
who was also supportive and wanted to meet us in York when we arrived there. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
And we even had someone creating a special footprint, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
so that pilgrims setting off on their first journey | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
can place their foot in the footprint as they set off. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
So what have you two taken from it? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
I think one of the things for me is, when you are researching | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
someone like this, to actually walk in that person's footsteps, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
actually makes you realise for the first time how important | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
these northern saints were, and the impact that they had on people, and people's lives. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:54 | |
And, actually, the impact they're still having on us now. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
I feel that, after being on the pilgrimage, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
it has given me a little closer connection to God. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
And it has really made me, sort of, feel quite humble, actually, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
to realise what these people actually achieved. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
And just to walk for a little time in their footsteps | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
has been quite magical, and quite an amazing experience. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
The village of Heptonstall provides a welcome rest stop | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
on the Paulinus Way. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
But if the pilgrims choose to stop for longer, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
then there's plenty to be discovered in this historic little community, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
including Heptonstall Methodist Chapel. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, preached here frequently, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
and he personally oversaw the unusual octagonal design. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
Completed back in 1764, it's the oldest Methodist chapel in the world | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
that has been in continuous use, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
and will soon celebrate 250 years of prayer and praise. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
I'm now in Todmorden, the westernmost town of Calderdale | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
and the point at which Yorkshire meets Lancashire, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
and there's definitely something strange going on. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
All over the town, fruit and veg are growing in the most unusual places. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
I discovered it was all part of a remarkable project that's the brainchild of Pam Warhurst. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:10 | |
We've got vegetables growing in very public places. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
We've got them in not-so-public places. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
We've got them in police stations, health centres. We've got them at the railway station, the bus station. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
So, suddenly, people who only see things wrapped in cellophane in a supermarket | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
start to see where it grows in its natural state. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
We're working with all the schools. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
We've got children now doing qualifications in agriculture. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
This is a town that isn't naturally, you know, a farming community. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Uh-huh. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
So, suddenly, there are job opportunities around local food. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
You've got people thinking about it, people growing it, kids learning about it. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
That means that they start to think about how they spend their money. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
So that means they start to support the local market. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
That means they start to support local farmers. And suddenly, the town starts to work again as a community, | 0:23:55 | 0:24:01 | |
as market towns always used to be. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
You know, every year we have a harvest festival, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
and it's where we bring all the produce from the town and cook it up. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
And we have a really fantastic time. It doesn't cost anybody anything. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
So if I'm walking past one of these spaces | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
and I see a cabbage growing, I just help myself? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
You help yourself. You absolutely help yourself. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
We're trying to spread kindness, we're trying to reconnect people, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
and when people are reconnected - particularly in hard times - | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
fabulous and magical things happen. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
The story that I tell, which, to me, really touches my heart - | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
my friend, Mary, turned her front garden, which was a rose garden, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
into a veg patch with a great big "please help yourself" sign on it. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
So we found local families going past and picking with the kids. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
And one particular local family did that, and the next day, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
they left the soup they'd made from the veg on Mary's doorstep. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
Now, these people - never spoken to Mary before in their entire life. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
That, for me, is what communities are all about, | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
and we're starting to see that all over the place. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
The churches in Todmorden have also embraced the spirit of Incredible Edible. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
I met with a vicar who's helped open up one local graveyard to gardening. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:14 | |
I suppose, if we put a positive spin on it, the rain is good for the vegetables. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Very good for the vegetables. They're doing remarkably well. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
-I have to say, it's a normal day for Todmorden, really. -Right. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
It's not often you see vegetables growing in a graveyard. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
It's not. It's been four years now, and the community have accepted it. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
Originally, I think people thought, "That's a bit strange. People won't like it." | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
But Incredible got in touch with us and said, "How about putting some vegetable beds in here?" | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
We thought about it, went through the channels and said, "We'd welcome it." | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
It's been a really good opportunity for the community. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
So who comes up here? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
A lot of the time, you'll see the children from the school through the back there. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
The children will come and tend the vegetables, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
but any vegetables are there to be taken by the community. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
So people who visit family graves come, people who just come | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
and walk their dog through the woods and churchyard will come. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
-Everybody in the community comes and takes a look and enjoys. -It's a great idea. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
Absolutely fabulous. It's quite anarchical, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
I think, to have a churchyard that is a sacred space, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
but actually to give it over to God's creation | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
in a lateral-thinking sense, really. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
This sounds absolutely perfect, so why isn't it happening in every community around the world? | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
It's starting to happen. We have 20 communities and we've got people working in Africa | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
and in Spain and in Northern Ireland and in Holland, so it's starting to happen. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
We do have some wonderful leaders. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
We do have churches that have put fruit trees and bushes, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
and we are working in the local church | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
to put a nut orchard at the back. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
But if we could actually have that push - that drive - | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
by the churches in every single town, to say, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
"We are the heart of the town, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
"and edible churches is the way forward, so let's bring our community together and grow collectively." | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
You've obviously got a massive passion for it - do you feel this is, er, a calling for you, in a way? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
I've done lots in my life, in the private and public sector. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
I've never done anything more important than this, ever, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
because this is about trying to change the world around us for our children. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
Instead of being victims, it says, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
"If we're positive about it, we can make a heck of a difference and pass on a better world." | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
So there... There is nothing more important to do than this. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
Well, having reached the end of Calderdale in one direction, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
I guessed it was time for me to head back. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
But if I was hoping for an easy ride, I was in for a shock. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Heavenly Father, as we look at the world around us, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
open our eyes to see you. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
Help us to see your hand in the beauty of creation. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
To see your heart in our communities. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
To see your footsteps in those that have gone before us, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
and to see your face in everyone that we meet. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
Amen. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:29 | |
"The final rhyme, the final clue | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
"There's nothing more for you to do | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
"Congratulations - you've passed the test | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
"We hope you enjoyed your Calderdale quest." | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
Well, it's not been the most straightforward way | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
of exploring an area, but I've thoroughly enjoyed my mystery tour of Calderdale. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
But if you don't mind, I think I'll go home using a more conventional mode of transport. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
Until next time, goodbye. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
Have you ever heard of a town in Essex called Camulodunum? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
Well, Pam will be there next week to discover how Ancient Rome | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
meets the hi-tech future. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
And as well as great hymns - ancient and modern - | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
there's some wonderful music from new opera star Noah Stewart. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
E-mail [email protected] | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 |