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Today is Prison Sunday. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
It's the start of a week of prayer and support | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
for everyone involved in prison life, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
including prisoners and the victims of their crimes. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
I'm being allowed into a closed prison, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
HMP Wayland, in Norfolk, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
to seek out examples of belief behind bars. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
Tonight, I meet some of those | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
who live and work in this prison community, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
and congregations from towns and cities all over the country | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
which have a prison as part of their community | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
sing hymns of penitence | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
and forgiveness. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
'Built in 1985 in the Norfolk countryside, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
'Her Majesty's Prison Wayland is a Category C prison. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
'That's for adult males who aren't likely to try to escape, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
'but can't quite be trusted in an open prison.' | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
-Good morning. -How are you? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Here in Wayland, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
there are around 1,000 inmates who currently fit that description. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
Bob Wilson is a Baptist minister | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
and a member of Wayland's multi-faith prison chaplaincy team. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
There's no godless place. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
You know, God is, essentially, everywhere, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
and he's just as much in here as he is | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
out through the gates the other side. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
But haven't prisoners failed God in a serious way? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
They've failed humanity in a serious way, they've failed themselves in a serious way, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
they've failed their victims and community in a serious way, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
but I don't think God is surprised at what they did. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
I think God knows all of us. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
Jesus, in Matthew 25, was really, really clear, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
when he said that when you look into the eyes of prisoners, you see me. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
He says that for whatever you did | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
for the least of these brothers of mine, you did also for me. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
And so I often think, when I look into the eyes of prisoners, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
I see the eyes of Jesus there. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
The Stations of the Cross here in the prison chapel | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
graphically tell the story of how Jesus, an innocent man, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
was executed as a common criminal. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
And yet, with almost his last breath, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
Jesus forgave his murderers | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
and showed compassion to a repentant thief. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:32 | |
Contrary to popular opinion, prison is far from being a holiday camp. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
Very few possessions are allowed outside the basics, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
but prisoners can have access to music | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
and to things they might need to practice their faith, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
in what's otherwise a strict and spartan environment. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
But the noise of rattling keys and banging doors is never far away. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
This prison's a really good training prison | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
that is working every day with prisoners, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
to try to support effective rehabilitation. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
We have, in the Prison and Probation Service, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
a motto that talks about preventing victims by changing lives. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
And that's absolutely what Wayland's about. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
It works very hard with individual prisoners | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
to make them think about why it is that they've been offending, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
to give them skills to help them to change. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
Very many prisoners | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
come in with very low levels of numeracy, literacy, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
and we also train them in ICT. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
So, there's a whole range of vocational training | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
as well as programs to help them to think through... | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
about why they have been offending. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
I really believe God has placed me in the prison. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
In here, we run Level I and Level II plastering | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
and Level I and Level II bricklaying and, basically, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
we kit the guys out so they can build a house, really, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
from bottom to top. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
Is it wise giving prisoners tools that they could use for escape? | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
They're all checked before we start each session. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
They're all checked after each session. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
There're all locked away safely at the end of the day. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
They're really well-protected. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
I know this sounds silly, but I get that light bulb moment, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
when you see somebody can do something for the first time. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
The guys need to learn, and if we can give them a hope for the future, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
they can find work, they'll be earning and putting back into the community, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
which is what it's all about. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
There's been people go from this prison and helped in the community recently, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
and it's important that we can do that. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
They can't do that without the skills. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
As well as learning new skills, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
prisoners can even earn a little money, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
some of which is paid into a fund for victims. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
So, good behaviour is rewarded. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
If you don't abide by the rules, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
any privileges can - and will - be taken away. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
But compared with prison conditions in centuries gone by, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
the loss of liberty is now regarded as enough of a punishment. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
One person prisoners have to thank for that | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
was an 18th-century Quaker, Elizabeth Fry, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
who helped reform the prison system, to make it more humane. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
Our next hymn is by the Quaker poet John Greenleaf Whittier | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
and comes from Elizabeth Fry's own meeting house in nearby Norwich. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
David has been in prison for 13 years. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
He won't be released until at least 2014. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
We're here for a reason, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
I'm here for a reason. So... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
..it's not supposed to be nice. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
But it can be very beneficial. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
And I've chosen to make it benefit me. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
I've been on a journey, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
I've done all the education stuff, I've done vocational stuff, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
I've made myself employable, which I probably wasn't when I came away. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
But, for me, it's finding out who I am, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
finding out who I can be. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
Anybody who I've hurt... | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
..any victim who I've created... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:17 | |
..I can only hope that I can prove that I can be given a second chance | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
and I can get a second chance with their blessing. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
I suppose you try and blame all sorts of things | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
for things that go wrong in your life. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
But...the realisation that... | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
you are in control of everything you do, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
you have a choice to make, you have decisions to make, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
and you make the wrong choice, you make a wrong decision, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
you've got to take responsibility for that. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
It can get very lonely at times and you can feel very alone. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
Although you do build up a rapport with people in prison, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
whether that be staff or...other inmates, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
I can only take it to a certain point. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
And that's very difficult, because I am a very... | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
I suppose I'm an emotional person, and I do miss my family | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
and...that separation is very hard to deal with. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Help us to forgive one another, to act justly, love, have mercy | 0:15:29 | 0:15:35 | |
and walk humbly together with Christ in His strength | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
and in His spirit, now and every day. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
The chaplaincy, they do more | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
than just the traditional religious support. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
Sometimes people are not necessarily religious, but when there | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
are sad times or deaths in families and such like, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
the chaplaincy is someone that they can turn to. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
But it's also someone staff can turn to. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
You have to have compassion in this environment. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Some people are very distressed. It's a very human place to be. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
You see all range of human emotions on display. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
So compassion's important. It's essential for any prison officer. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
My philosophy has always been, they've been judged, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
my job isn't to judge them, they've been judged. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
My job is to look after them...the best way I can in here. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
I've been in some situations where you think, wow, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
this could turn really nasty, but the staff here are fantastic. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
You do get some good support and you've got back-up all the time. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Sounds trite in lots of ways, but God is everywhere. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
And yes, very definitely with prisoners and staff. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
To me it's the sort of basis of what I do. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
The hymn And Can It Be is my favourite hymn. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
It might be seen as a risky one for the Head of the Prison Service, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
because the fourth verse is about a prison escape. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
It's about Peter escaping from prison in Jerusalem, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
when the angel comes and his handcuffs fall off | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
and he gets out past the guards and amazes his friends. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
And everyone can know that freedom and release through God's love. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
And in prison, that freedom might well be a spiritual freedom, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
rather than a physical freedom, but it's life-changing nonetheless. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
Visiting those in prison is an act of mercy which Jesus said | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
was akin to doing the same for him. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
The Wesley brothers were prison visitors in the most dangerous circumstances. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
Prisoners still rely heavily on volunteers to visit them. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Very often, there's quite a lot of interest in matters of faith. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
Some of them say that when they're on the outside, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
they had very little opportunity to think. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
So busy making life for themselves, making money illegally or legally. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
When they come here they've got more time than they want to think. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
And for those who've been in and out for some time, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
they're looking for a new way of life. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
Certainly those who come to the chapel are looking for something | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
and I think we have something important to give to them in our own Christian faith. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
I see them as human beings. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
All of us are ragged, for want of a better word, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
and certainly my belief in the eyes of God is that we're all ragged. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
It's just that I've been fortunate that the things I've done wrong | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
haven't ended me up in an institution such as this. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
But there are so many untapped gifts in the guys that are in here, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
it's staggering. It staggers me regularly. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
I tutor something called the Sycamore Tree course, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
or the guys call it a victim awareness course. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
And it looks at an alternative justice system | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
and looks to restore the guys into the community when they're released. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
It actually gets them | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
to thing about the effect of their crime on their victim. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
And part of the course, on the last session, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
the guys carry out something called a symbolic act of restitution, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
which involves... It can be a letter writing. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
I've had guys sing songs, write poetry, do pictures and so on. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
When we see guys being released and we hear that they've settled, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
they've made a home, they've made a life for themselves, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
what more reward could you possibly want? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
The pure and contrite heart in Charles Wesley's hymn | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
is based on Psalm 51. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
David the King and Psalmist was also an adulterer and murderer, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
until he repented. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
I'm not sure if you can have true forgiveness without there being | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
a sense of remorse in the person who is being forgiven. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
There's a huge misunderstanding about forgiveness, I think. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
Forgiveness is not about letting people off. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Crime is about hurting people | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
and when you see that crime is about hurting people | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
you have got to understand | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
that there has got to be an element of punishment | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
and there has also got to be an element of how does that person | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
change so that they don't hurt someone else again? | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
So, there should be, especially for the Christian, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
no Get Out Of Jail Free card. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
They can understand God's forgiveness but they've also got to understand | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
that they've got to change and move forward from that place. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
David's serving a life sentence for his part in a murder. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
The chaplaincy are helping him | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
explore ways of expressing remorse to all those affected by his crime. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:42 | |
Some might say, "If you are a Christian in the first place | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
"then why would you commit a crime?" | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
The times I was doing things | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
I shouldn't have been doing and all the stuff | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
I shouldn't have been doing as a Christian, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
I was still learning, you know? I had a lot to learn. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
As much as I felt I knew the lot or knew everything, I didn't. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:04 | |
I made mistakes. A lot of mistakes. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
I have learnt from a lot of the mistakes I've made. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
'I've always looked to God and asked for forgiveness for things I've done. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
'It came to a point where, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
'when I can't keep doing things wrong | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
'and asking for forgiveness, it's time to do things right | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
'and being inside this time | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
'has afforded me the time and space to really get to grips with that.' | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
I'm not just going to turn to God and ask, "Can you forgive me?" | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
I'm going to kind of prove that I should be forgiven | 0:26:36 | 0:26:42 | |
and try and make up for anything I've done wrong. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
'I'd like to help people not to make mistakes, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
'definitely not the mistakes I've made, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
'but to break the cycle before it's too late, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
'before they have to go through an experience what I've gone through.' | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
The words of our next hymn writer, John Newton, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
emphasise that even for him, a former slave trader, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
it was never too late to seek forgiveness. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Lord, you offer freedom to all people. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
We pray for those in prison, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
break the bonds of fear and isolation that exist. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Support with your love prisoners and their families and friends, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
prison staff and all who care. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
Heal those who have been wounded by the actions of others | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
especially the victims of crime. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
Help us to forgive one another, to act justly, to love mercy | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
and to walk humbly together with Christ | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
in his strength and in his spirit. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
And may God bless you now and every day. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
-Amen. -Amen. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
For our final hymn, we join the congregation | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
at St Anne's Roman Catholic Cathedral in Leeds | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
to sing with confidence | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
that we are all ransomed, healed, restored and forgiven. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
Next week, Sally meets composer Paul Mealor | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
who wrote last year's Christmas hit for the Military Wives Choir | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
and introduces hymns and songs from Dunblane Cathedral | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
with an all-male line-up - | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
the boys and young men of the National Youth Choirs of Scotland. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 |