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I've got the wind in my hair, the waves are gently lapping. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
Join me on this special journey | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
as I uncover the stories, the people and the places | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
that have made London one of the greatest cities in the world. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Yes, it's time to mess around on the river. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
I'm doing London by boat. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Coming up - along with the hymns this week, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
we'll have stories from the UK's biggest city | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
and our music comes from some of London's finest churches, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
and can you guess which bridge across the Thames | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
inspired the poet William Wordsworth? | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
At 215 miles long and flowing through nine counties of England, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
the Thames is one of the most famous waterways in the world. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
And for the millions of tourists who visit London every year, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
no trip is complete without a sightseeing cruise | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
through the heart of the city. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
You know, in all the years I've lived in London, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
I've actually never been on a river cruise - I'm very excited. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Over the next half an hour, we'll be passing | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
some of London's most famous religious buildings. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
It's rather apt that we start with the capital's oldest cathedral - | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
that's Southwark. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
Every stretch of this river is a reminder of our history. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
Its palaces, theatres | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
and churches have been places of inspiration for centuries. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
I'm setting sail with Christopher Winn - | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
London resident and Thames enthusiast. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
-Are you a big fan of the river? -I love the river. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
There's a most wonderful sense of openness | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
and peace and quiet on the river, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
and you get a different perspective of all the landmarks. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Because the river was so important to the growth of London, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
all the iconic sights, you can actually see from the river. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-I've never done this before. -It's very exciting. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
-Also, I've never been this close to Tower Bridge. -There it is. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
Possibly the most recognisable bridge in the whole world. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
It's the only bridge over the Thames that opens, and of course, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
it opens because when it was built, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
the Pool Of London, which we're going through to now, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
was still a very important working port, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
and they had to get a lot of tall ships under here. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
It used to open about 20 times a day and in fact, in 1952, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
a number 78 bus was going across the bridge | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
when it began to open and he had no choice but to accelerate | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
and leap over the gap which he just made. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Fantastic. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:01 | |
One of the most celebrated sights from the river | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
is the Tower Of London. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:08 | |
Building was started by William the Conqueror in 1078 | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
and it's perhaps one of the most famous prisons in the world. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
-If you see there, that is Traitors' Gate. -Oh, I see. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
That's where people to be executed used to go into the tower and never come out again - | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
Anne Boleyn, Catherine Howard, Sir Thomas More. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
Of course, Sir Thomas More, once he'd been executed, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
his head was put on a spike and put on London Bridge | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
and that's where we're heading now. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
There have been lots of London Bridges since. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
In 1014, when the city was owned by the Danes | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
or they occupied the city, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
King Aethelred the Unready sailed his fleet up | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
and tied his boats to the wooden supports of London Bridge | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
and sailed away, bringing the bridge down behind him. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
-That's where you get the nursery rhyme London Bridge Is Falling Down. -Ah, right. I never knew that. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
-I'll be singing that all day, now. -I hope so. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
And our next hymn comes from the Queen Elizabeth Hall, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
a little bit further up. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:02 | |
Yes, that's further down in the Southbank Centre, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
much of which was built for the Festival of Britain in 1951, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
and the Queen Elizabeth Hall was added in 1967, I think. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
-It's a great venue. -The Southbank Arts Centre is the biggest arts centre in Britain. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
-Is it really? -Yes. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
# Just one voice | 0:06:24 | 0:06:30 | |
# Singing in the darkness | 0:06:30 | 0:06:36 | |
# All it takes is one voice | 0:06:36 | 0:06:42 | |
# Singing so they hear what's on your mind | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
# And when you look around | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
# You'll find there's more than one voice | 0:06:49 | 0:06:56 | |
# Singing in this darkness One voice | 0:06:56 | 0:07:03 | |
# Joining with your one voice One voice | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
# Each and every note another octave | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
# Hands are joined and fears unlocked | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
# If only one voice | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
# Started on its own | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
# We need just one voice | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
# Facing the unknown | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
# And then that one voice | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
# Would never be alone | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
# It takes just one voice | 0:07:31 | 0:07:38 | |
# Da, da, da, da, da, da, da | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
# Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
# Da, da, da, da, da | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
# Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
# One voice | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
# One voice | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
# Singing in the darkness | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
# All it takes is one voice | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
# Shout it out and let it ring | 0:08:11 | 0:08:17 | |
# Just one voice | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
# It takes that one voice | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
# And everyone | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
# Will sing... # | 0:08:31 | 0:08:37 | |
# One voice | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
# Singing in the darkness | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
# All it takes is one voice | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
# Shout it out and let it ring | 0:09:05 | 0:09:11 | |
# Just one voice | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
# It takes that one voice | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
# And everyone | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
# Will sing | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
# We will | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
# sing. # | 0:09:33 | 0:09:40 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
So, we've been under Tower Bridge, London Bridge | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
and now we're approaching what was Wobbly Bridge. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
It will always be known as the Wobbly Bridge. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
It's created a lovely space because it's connected the City | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
to the South Bank in a way that it wasn't before. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
And again, that idea of ancient and modern. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
You've got the Tate one side and St Paul's Cathedral the other. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
Yes, Sir Christopher Wren's masterpiece. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
38 years it took to build | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
and he was 78 by the time it was finished in 1710. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
Love the idea that it's right in the heart of London, as well. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
It is. Very much so. It's been there since 604. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
That's when the first cathedral was put there | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
and it's on Ludgate Hill which is the highest point in the city, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
so it rises above the city | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
and you have this magnificent dome which is 365 feet high to the top. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
I've been up it. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:33 | |
-It's a wonderful view. -I could definitely feel my calves. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
Indeed, it's quite a scary climb up there. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
But also, it's a huge statement of faith, as well, isn't it? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
God's here in this busy hustle and bustle. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
Despite the fact that these modern buildings are around us, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
it still rises above. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
It's the first thing your eye is drawn to. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
It reminds me of the difference between spiritual | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
and material wealth - that they work together. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
St Pauls Cathedral is one of London's most iconic images, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
dedicated to the saint without whom many believe | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
Christianity would never have become known to the Western world. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
But who was St Paul? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
2,000 years on, why is he still such an inspiration today? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
St Paul came from an area we now know as eastern Turkey. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
So, it's to Turkey that pilgrims travel to discover more | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
about the life of this man. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Last year, Pam joined a pilgrimage | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
to explore what remains of two cities Paul knew well - | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
Ephesus and Miletus. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
Ephesus was really important for Paul. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
He really wanted to get there. It was the largest metropolis around the Aegean - some 250,000 people. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:43 | |
Major trading port | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
and many people would be coming in to that city, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
so he wanted to get there. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
It was a strategic place and it was a really important part of his strategy. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
He describes his ministry there | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
and it's clearly been really, really tough. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
It is almost a near-death experience. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
He also talks about having to face wild beasts in Ephesus. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Almost certainly that's a metaphor - | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
he's not literally facing wild beasts, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
but it describes the opposition which he's under. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
South of Ephesus along the coastal route is Miletus. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
It was here that Paul bid an emotional farewell | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
to the leaders of the church in Ephesus. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
It's been eye-opening for me to come to Turkey with a group of pilgrims | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
to follow in Paul's footsteps | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
and visit these ancient sights. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
Paul travelled thousands of miles, but we've seen just a tiny fraction of the distances he covered. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:37 | |
I think he must have been a marvellous man. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
We've been sitting in a coach | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
for four or five days already on this pilgrimage | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
and we've done such distances. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
I don't know how he could have possibly done it by foot or on a donkey or whatever. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
It certainly makes things come vividly alive | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
to stand where he stood and where the early Christians stood. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
That's the Ionic Stoa there, where all the processions started. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
The spate of all these trails and shipwrecks and beatings | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
and all that, he still pressed on towards the goal, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
towards the prize, and the prize would be eternal life with Jesus. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
It must have been an incredible journey | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
fraught with all kinds of dangers, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
difficulties, problems, hardships along the way, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
which Paul alludes to in some of his letters. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
So, my admiration for him has increased | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
as we have traced some of his steps. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
The account of Paul meeting the Ephesian elders in Miletus | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
is a very moving account in the New Testament. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
It's described in Acts, chapter 20. Paul's speech is there. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
It's moving because he knows that it's going to be his last time with them. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
He's convinced that he's going up to Jerusalem | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
and then on to pastures new. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
It's goodbye to all his seven years of working around the Aegean, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
and he knows that hardship is awaiting him. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
He's often going into places where the name of Christ has never been heard of before, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
he's going into cities which are full of pagan culture, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
and he's going almost single-handedly, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
determined to bring a new message into that location, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
convinced that God has done something in Jesus which is for all people. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
I love this part of the Thames cos you've got the grandeur of St Pauls. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
But, if I'm right, isn't that St Brides? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
-That is indeed St Brides on Fleet Street. -The tiny spire. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
As you see, it's got a very distinctive shape. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
In the 17th century, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
a pastry cook who was working on Ludgate Hill opposite the church, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
looked up at the spire | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
and got inspired to make a cake for his daughter's wedding, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
and he made it in the shape of the spire | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
and that's why we have wedding cakes tiered like that, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
in the same shape as that spire. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
Of course, a very important wedding took place not far from here. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
Indeed it did. Wasn't it a most marvellous day? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
-That was showing London at its best. -Absolutely. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
We're so good at pomp and pageantry in London. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
All the buildings lend themselves to this wonderful pageantry. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
Does the Thames have a royal connection? | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
It has an incredible royal connection because | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
there are lots of palaces on the river, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
going from Windsor to Whitehall | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
to Westminster Palace down to Greenwich, Richmond Palace, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
and the kings and queens used to progress between their homes | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
in great state, in their state barges along the river | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
which was the safest and the quickest way to go. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
Further upstream, Windsor is now home to the oldest | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
and largest inhabited castle in the world. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
But, for visitors to the castle, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
the real surprise is the magnificent St George's Chapel, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
and it's the setting for our next piece of music. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
# Oh, grant it, Heaven | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
# That our long woes may cease | 0:17:45 | 0:17:50 | |
# And Judah's daughters | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
# Taste the calm of peace | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
# Sons, brothers, husbands | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
# To bewail no more | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
# Tortured at home | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
# Or havocked in the war... # | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
# So shall the lute and harp awake | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
# And sprightly voice sweet descant run | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
# So shall the lute awake | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
# So shall the harp awake | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
# So shall the lute and harp awake | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
# And sprightly voice sweet descant run | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
# And sprightly voice | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
# Sweet descant run | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
# And spri-ah-ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah-ah, ah-ah | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
# Ah, ah-ah, ah-ah-ah Ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
# Ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah Ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ightly voice | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
# Sweet descant run | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
# Seraphic melody to make | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
# In the pure strains of Jesse's son | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
# Sera-ha-ah, ha-ah, ha-ah Ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
# Ah-ah-phic melody to make | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
# In the pure strah-eh-eh-eh-eh | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
# Eh-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh Eh-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
# Eh-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh Eh-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
# Eh-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh strains | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
# In the pure strains of Jesse's son | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
# Sera-ha-ah, ha-ah, ha-ah Ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah, ah-ah | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
# Ah-ah-phic melody to make | 0:19:35 | 0:19:41 | |
# In the pure strains | 0:19:43 | 0:19:49 | |
# Of Je-eh, eh-eh, eh-eh Eh-eh-eh, eh-eh | 0:19:49 | 0:19:55 | |
# Eh-eh-eh, eh-eh | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
# Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
# Eh-eh, eh, eh-eh-eh | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
# Jesse's son. # | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
-And the view every tourist comes to London to see. -Indeed. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
There it is, Big Ben. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Probably the most famous clock in the world. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
In fact, Big Ben refers only to the great bell of the great clock. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
-OK. -That is the actual bell is called Ben, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
and it was named after Sir Benjamin Hall | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
who was the commissioner of works. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Or possibly, a story I prefer, it was named after Benjamin Caunt | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
-who was a heavyweight champion of the time whose nickname was Big Ben. -Oh, really? -Indeed. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
What about the House Of Commons? Magnificent. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Magnificent Houses Of Parliament. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Of course, this is new, this was opened in 1852. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
It's on the site of Edward the Confessor's | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Palace Of Westminster, so it's known as the Palace Of Westminster - | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
the oldest royal palace in London. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
And the big square tower, the other side, the Victoria Tower, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
-was the tallest building in the world when it was first built. -Really? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
It was. Extraordinary. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
It's got a copy of every single law and record that's been made | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
since the 11th century, inside it, now. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
It's a sort of modern Tower Of Babel, you could call it. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
-Do you know what? I'm glad I turned up today. -So am I. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
-I always enjoy telling these stories. -It's a great story. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
The building we see today was designed by Charles Barry, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
after a fire broke out in 1834, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
destroying almost all of the original Palace Of Westminster. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
One of the few structures to survive was a glorious underground chapel. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
St Mary Undercroft isn't normally open to the public | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
but it still holds regular services for MPs, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
members of the House Of Lords and their families. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
Last year, I met Lady Patricia Scotland, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
who's a worshipper there. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
-What a jewel this place is. -It's absolutely beautiful. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
It's a church right in the heart of Parliament | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
and it's just a pool of calm and an opportunity to come in prayer. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
I think it's a very special space. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
And it's really wonderful | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
because you see people that you never imagined would come | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
and go, "Oh, hello." | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
How do you feel when you're praying here? | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
Erm, really touched, actually, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
because you have a clear understanding | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
that God is in the centre of all we're doing. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
Every time Parliament starts the day, it starts with prayer. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
Yeah, many people would imagine that, you know, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Parliament and God really wouldn't go hand in hand. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
I think in this space, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
there is no party, there's just one body | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
and that's the body of Christ and being able to acknowledge | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
that we're all part of it and we are all part of the solution | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
and there's a great deal we can do by working together. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
Patricia Scotland's career reads as a series of firsts. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
The first black woman to become a QC, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
the first to become a government minister, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
and the first female attorney general. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
Born in Dominica and brought up in East London, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
she didn't always feel quite so part of the establishment. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
I was one of ten children, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
and my mother was a very devout Catholic | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
and my father was an equally ardent Methodist. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
And I think my parents found it quite hard | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
when they first came to England | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
cos at that stage, it wasn't necessarily as welcoming | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
as they thought it would be. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
And their faith was a very strong part | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
of how they got through all of those things. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
Some public figures find it difficult to own up to being a Christian, if you like. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
Why do you think that is? | 0:23:43 | 0:23:44 | |
I think it's because it makes lots of people feel vulnerable, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
and that you could be subject to attack. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
There's a feeling that more might be expected of you | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
or that if you make decisions, people will challenge them | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
and look at them through the prism of the faith that you purport to have. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
It's never really been an issue for you, though, has it? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
No, no, it hasn't. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
I think I've never hesitated from giving the credit where credit's due | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
and the credit always goes to God. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
The things that I've done which are good, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
I know have been through his grace. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
The things that I've done that aren't so good, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
I know they're usually down to me, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
so faith has been very much part of the living, breathing fabric | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
of my life and who I am. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
If I'd known we were coming this far up the Thames, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
-we could have popped in to see my fellow Welshman at Lambeth Palace. -Indeed. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
There it is, the home of the Archbishop of Canterbury. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
Since the year 1200, I think, was when they first moved there. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
And in fact, I grew up there. I had spent some of my formative years there | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
-in the Cranmer Tower where Cranmer compiled the prayer book. -Wow. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
-I like to think that's where I get my writing skills from. -Not a bad place to grow up, eh? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
No, and it was next to the river, which is where my love for the river comes from. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
-It's obvious that you really do love the Thames. -I do. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
I love the space, I love the open air, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
there are so many fascinating characters and stories | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
and so many things I never knew about the River Thames, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
that I love to learn. You can never learn enough about it. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
I've learnt so much. I can't wait to bring my children. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
-I'm going to be the font of all knowledge next to you. -Indeed. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
-It's been brilliant. -Thank you. I've enjoyed it, too. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
I always love it on the Thames. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
I know that you've chosen a hymn for us, as well. What is it? | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
On a stormy day like this, it's quite relevant. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
It's For Those In Peril On The Sea. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
I come from a naval family, and of course, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
an awful lot of people sailed down the Thames | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
to go across the world on perilous sea voyages | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
to discover America and Australia, so I think it's quite relevant | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
to be thinking for those in peril on the sea. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
'Dear Father, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:46 | |
'give us the wisdom to ask for your mercy | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
'not just when the storm is raging, but also when the waters are calm.' | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
Help us to understand that peace and happiness come | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
not from having worldly riches, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
but from having your love in our hearts. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
And in days of doubt, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
give us the courage to acknowledge your presence | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
and sing forth your praise. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Amen. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:11 | |
So, here we are at our journey's end. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
Before we go our opposite ways, there is one question I want to ask. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
-By all accounts, Wordsworth was inspired by one of the bridges we've been under. -Indeed he was. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
The view that inspired William Wordsworth to write the lines, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
"Earth has not anything to show more fair," | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
was the view of Westminster Bridge. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
-I didn't win that bet. Thank you very much. -My pleasure. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
I don't know about you, but I've had a fantastic time | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
exploring some of these wonderful sights that London has to offer | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
from the mighty Thames. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
We're going to end where we began at Southwark Cathedral | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
with an inspirational hymn of praise, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
Angel-Voices Ever Singing. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
Until next time, goodbye. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
In next week's Songs Of Praise, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
Irish singer Dana goes back to her home city | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
to explore her past. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
And she uncovers some stars of the future. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
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