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Back in 1970, Northern Ireland was in serious turmoil. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
Catholics and Protestants fought on the streets of Londonderry and Belfast. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
And yet, in the middle of this anger, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
a different side of Northern Ireland emerged. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
# Snowdrops and daffodils... # | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
A 16-year-old schoolgirl called Dana surprised everyone | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
by winning the Eurovision Song Contest with All Kinds Of Everything. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
# All kinds of everything | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
# Remind me of you... # | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
# It's gonna be a cold, cold Christmas... # | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
It launched a career that included top ten hits, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
success across the Atlantic, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
and, to the surprise of many, a career in Irish politics. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
Dana's had an extraordinarily varied life, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
and today she's my guest on a special Songs Of Praise. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
Coming up, some of Dana's favourite songs and hymns. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
She's in for a surprise when she returns to her old school, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
and Dana meets someone whose life was changed by a project | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
that's helped create a more peaceful Northern Ireland. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Songs Of Praise today comes from a remarkable building. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
This is Air Studios in North London, once an abandoned church, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
until Sir George Martin converted it into a recording venue. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
Now, for the first time in 40 years, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
a congregation is back within these walls. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
And they're here, looking forward to our special guest. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, Dana! | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Thank you. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
And you are back on home turf, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
-because you were born just up the road. -I was. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
I was actually born in Islington, just off the Caledonian Road. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
I don't remember a whole lot of it, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
but my mother talked about it for all of her life, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
she just had such a happy time there, and wonderful neighbours. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
She just loved it. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
You were young, but the house was crammed with people, wasn't it? | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
It was, yes, because as people would move to London, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
as a lot did in those days, looking for work, then they'd all come. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
If my father found anyone at the railway station or whatever, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
he'd just bring them home. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:28 | |
And your house always full of music, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
which is good, because we've got plenty of it tonight. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
-Yes. -Tell me about the first hymn. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
Well, it's a hymn that I hope you'll all know | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
and you'll all sing along with, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
and it's called I Will Sing The Wondrous Story. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
-Let's hear it now. Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
-Come and have a seat. -Thank you. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
It's a wonderful hymn, that, and without being too sacrilegious, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
it's been a kind of wondrous life for you, too, hasn't it? | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
Well, yes, it has. A lot of things happened in my life | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
I really never dreamt would ever happen. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
That Eurovision Song Contest win in 1970, it changed everything, didn't it? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
Totally. Totally changed my life. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
I wouldn't be here today but for Eurovision. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
And yet it was such a long time ago, if you don't mind my saying so, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
it was a time when you were sort of young and fresh and innocent, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
it was a very sweet song. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
You've had to live with that image all your life since, haven't you? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Well, I suppose so, except for the young. I'm not young any more! | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
You don't mind? It's not been hard to shake off? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
I think part of the problem with people looking at someone, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
maybe they think that you think you're better than they are, for Christians. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
Maybe they think you're a holy Joe who feels they're better than they are. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
The opposite is true, I think you realise how much | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
you've got to work on yourself and how much you rely on God to get you through life. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
And it's interesting, because your career hasn't been plain sailing, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
it's been gilded in all sorts of ways, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
but you had a period in your life | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
where you thought you were going to lose that golden voice forever. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
Well, I did lose it for quite some time. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
In fact, it was five years before I actually came back | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
-to being able to sing normally again. -What happened? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
I had a growth with a root on one of the vocal cords, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
which is a very delicate muscle. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
And they thought it might be cancer, thank God it was not. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
But the operation to cut into the cord, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
of course, that's quite a devastation. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
And it took me five years to get back. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
How low did you get as a result of that? | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
I think after I had my first relapse, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
I continued downward till I hit rock bottom. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
And that particular day I'd had to cancel another comeback, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
I was alone in my house and I remember sitting at my kitchen table | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
and just saying, "If there's anybody up there, please help me." | 0:07:58 | 0:08:04 | |
And I think looking back, that was one of the best prayers I ever prayed. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
I didn't think it was a prayer at the time, but I remember thinking, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
"Call the doctor and get the name of a teacher," which I did. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
-You saw that as answer to prayer? -Yes, looking back on it. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:22 | |
At the time I just thought, "How could I be so stupid not to think | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
"to ask my specialist for the name of a teacher?" | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
And he said he had one sitting on his desk for the past couple of weeks, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
and I called her and then I began my walk back. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
And she taught you to sing from down here rather than up there. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
She did, she taught me how to protect my voice. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
She was just a wonderful lady, and I'll always be grateful to her. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:50 | |
What effect did that experience have on you? | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
Because it made you very vulnerable for a while, didn't it? | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
I remember thinking, "I'll never be able to sing again." | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
And suddenly realising, what we take for granted is actually very precious, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
whatever it is - being able to walk, being able to talk, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
being able to sing... | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
It's very precious and we need to really remind ourselves | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
how important it is to appreciate them. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
Tell me about the next song. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Well, I wrote it some years ago and it's basically... | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
I think I almost get really frustrated sometimes, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
because we all know people who feel alone, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
they feel quite isolated, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
and how frustrating it must be for God who's there with us all the time, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
but actually, those people see him in us. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
So, if we're not his hands and his eyes and, you know, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
if we don't love, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
then those people may never encounter him. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
-It's called I Am The Light. -Let's hear it now. Ladies and gentlemen, Dana. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
# Oh, I know why you are crying | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
# I can feel the pain you feel | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
# I am walking here beside you | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
# And my love for you is real | 0:10:24 | 0:10:31 | |
# Yet it seems that you don't know me | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
# You can't hear the words I say | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
# Are the eyes of those around you | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
# Cold and empty as your day? | 0:10:44 | 0:10:50 | |
# I am the light | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
# The light of the world | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
# I am the light | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
# And the light will burn | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
# Within the hearts of those who love me | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
# It lights the way for those who yearn | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
# To see the light | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
# The light of the world | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
# I am the light | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
# And the light will burn | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
# And like a moth drawn to the flame | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
# Consumed in my love | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
# You are born again | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
# Who will speak my word of comforts? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
# Who will love for love of me? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
# Who will shine out in the darkness? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
# So that all the world can see | 0:11:43 | 0:11:49 | |
# When the flame of love is growing | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
# Like a tide that never turns | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
# Like the sun that's never setting | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
# So the flame of love will burn | 0:12:03 | 0:12:09 | |
# I am the light | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
# The light of the world | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
# I am the light | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
# And the light will burn | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
# Within the hearts of those who love me | 0:12:18 | 0:12:23 | |
# It lights the way for those who yearn | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
# To see the light | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
# The light of the world | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
# I am the light | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
# And the light will burn | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
# And like a moth drawn to the flame | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
# Consumed in my love | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
# You are born again | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
# And like a moth drawn to the flame | 0:12:47 | 0:12:53 | |
# Consumed in my love | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
# You are born again. # | 0:12:55 | 0:13:03 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Dana is going back to her roots. Back to Derry, where she grew up. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
On the outskirts of the city, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
is a collection of abandoned buildings - | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Dana's old school, Thornhill College. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
Whoa, it's so strange to see this place boarded up, you know. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
I suppose in my mind, it's kind of, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
as I always remember it and bustling with girls. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
I remember my first day. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
My school bag was so heavy, I couldn't lift it off the ground. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
I suppose I just see little snippets of time | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
and I have memories of the people I went to school with. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
It is sad to see it | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
but just across the road is the new Thornhill, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
so it goes on. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
In the brand new building, Dana wants to see | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
if its strong tradition of music teaching still survives. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
CHOIR SINGS | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
# Our motto to the end. # | 0:14:38 | 0:14:44 | |
Well done. Girls, that brought back an awful lot of memories to me. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
We always had a huge emphasis on the choir in Thornhill | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
and I'm glad to see that's carrying on because I think it brings, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
you know, the whole year together. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
When did you come here? | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
I came here in the early '60s, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
and I left in 1970 when I won Eurovision. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
So, I was wearing the same uniform you're wearing. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
I took part in the musical and I got the lead role | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
in my junior year, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
only because the girl who had the role got sick. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
So, I got the lead role in Love From Judy, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
which was a great experience. Do you still do the school musicals? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
ALL: Yes. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
What was your latest one? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
ALL: Hairspray. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
Hairspray? That's a fantastic... Any of you in lead roles in that? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
I was the lead in it, so I was. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
-So, will you sing us a few bars of it, then? -Aye. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
# Good morning, Baltimore | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
# Every day's like an open door. # | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
That's a short song. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
'They're a great bunch of girls. | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
'They just love their music, love their singing and performing. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
'I was thinking, you know, how...' | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
How much things change and yet how little things change | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
because you know, I could see myself in their position. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
'Coming back here was, for me, a kind of,' | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
a process of uniting the memories with the present day. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Seeing these young girls today and meeting their teachers, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
that's lovely to see that ongoing circle of life. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:34 | |
We come to Strasbourg once every month | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
and we're here from Monday to Thursday | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
and during that time, we vote on the bulk of the reports. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
It's a chance to find out what's going on and for that reason, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
it's excellent and of course, it's also a beautiful city. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
It was quite a shock to everyone and possibly quite a shock to yourself | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
when you went into politics. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
Oh, yes. I call myself an accidental politician. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
And the question rises to my lips - why? | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
Well, I ran for the presidency in Ireland. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
If you're going to start, you might as well start at the top | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
and work your way down. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
But, basically... | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
But you've been singing successfully, you've got a great career, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
you're living in Alabama with your children | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
and you think, "Ah, I think I'll stand for the Irish presidency." | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
Well, I was actually asked if I would. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
I knew I wouldn't win it, but I knew I had an opportunity to speak | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
because I was a personality | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
and therefore I would get exposure for what I had to say. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
But what was it you felt so strongly about that you decided to go there? | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
Well, the Irish constitution is a very special constitution. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
It recognises a higher power, it recognises God. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
It protects the family, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
it protects parents as the first children of their teachers | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
and it protects life. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
So, it's a very special constitution. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
Also, because only the Irish people have the last say on any changes. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:47 | |
And there was obviously a... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
People felt that they were being forced into change | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
and that the people were not being listened to. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
So, I spoke on behalf of the people who felt | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
that no-one was listening to them and they were right, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
and I spoke on their behalf. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
Dana actually means "bold", doesn't it? | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
Yes, yes, to be bold, to be daring. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
Is that, then, a part of your character that was there | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
all along or did you discover it? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
I suppose that we don't know what's within us until we're tested. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
We really don't. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
And I never dreamt that I would be in the hurly-burly of politics. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
Neither did I want to be there. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
But there are certain values, I think, that, more and more, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
you have to be willing to stand up, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
"Well, this is what I believe, this is what I think, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
"and I have the right to say it." | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
Now, you lost the race for the presidency | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
but you clearly had a taste for it because you stood, then, for Europe | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
and you got into the European Parliament. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
Yes, I was there for five years. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Did you enjoy it, you who hated politics? | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
I'm not sure "enjoy" is the right word. It was a battle every day. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
And politics is like that, you know, you do have to stand your ground. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
You're going to lead us now in the hymn, Be Thou My Vision. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
The wonderful hymn, it's my favourite. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
And very much the right hymn for a politician with a cause. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
For anyone facing everyday life, I think we all can benefit from this. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
-Let's hear it now. -Thank you. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Londonderry is divided by the River Foyle. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
One bank is predominantly Protestant, the other, Catholic. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Last month, something rather remarkable opened, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
designed to unite both sides. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
After months of construction, the Peace Bridge, as it's known, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
is proving extremely popular. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
Well, I'm going to try out the bridge | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
and I'm going to meet someone who says her life | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
has been transformed by an organisation | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
that I've supported for a very long time. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
And what they do is what this bridge is all about. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
-Hi. -Hi, nice to see you. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
Marguerite Bradley grew up on a Catholic estate in Derry. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
She knew nothing about her Protestant neighbours. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
I went to Catholic schools and my friends were all Catholic. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
I had no interaction for any reason with Protestants. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
It's just the way I was brought up. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
Then, aged 10, Marguerite was selected by a charity | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
called Project Children to spend the summer in America. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
It's a simple but effective idea. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
They stay with a host family, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
mixing with people of a different Christian tradition. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
The journey there is also part of the process. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
It was just unbelievable. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
900 kids in a plane from both denominations | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
and it didn't matter if you were Catholic or Protestant. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
We were all going to America to have a great summer | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
and that just changed my life, that one summer. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
Do you think that your life would have gone the way it did, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
getting your degree, had it not been for Project Children? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Definitely not. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
Project Children, when my host family came into my life, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
they just inspired me so much. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
My dad was great but my host family just were so educational-wise | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
and kept saying, "Get your degree, it'll teach you loads." | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
-Did it give you confidence? -Definitely. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
They believed in me, that I could do it | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
and then I ended up doing it and I needed that in life. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
Do you think the work of Project Children helped the peace process? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Definitely. It changes your whole outlook. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
I went to college with friends that said, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
"Don't talk to them, they're Protestant." | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
But they're just the same as us. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Like, go talk to them and see how they are. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
My whole opinion completely changed and we're just all the same, we're equal. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
-And you've kept those friendships from...? -I have friends from 20 years ago | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
that I first went out with from Project Children. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
They're lifelong friends. I wouldn't part from them. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
# Christ be beside me | 0:27:17 | 0:27:23 | |
# Christ be before me | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
# Christ be behind me | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
# King of my heart | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
# Christ be within me | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
# Christ be below me | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
# Christ be above me | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
# Never to part | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
# Christ on my right hand | 0:28:08 | 0:28:14 | |
# Christ on my left hand | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
# Christ all around me | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
# Shield in the strife | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
# Christ in my sleeping | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
# Christ in my sitting | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
# Christ in my rising | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
# Light of my life | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
# Christ be in all hearts | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
# Thinking about me | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
# Christ be in all tongues | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
# Telling of me | 0:29:12 | 0:29:18 | |
# Christ be the vision | 0:29:18 | 0:29:24 | |
# In eyes that see me | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
# In ears that hear me | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
# Christ ever be. # | 0:29:34 | 0:29:41 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Dana, I was wondering as I was sitting listening to that, whether that lovely Celtic prayer, | 0:29:56 | 0:30:02 | |
through all the ups and downs of your life, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
actually remains, for you, your prayer for life? | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
Well, it does, because I have a great affection for that prayer | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
and for the melody, I love it and I find that really, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
it's the only way I can get through life, so yes, I love it. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
Well, thank you for joining us tonight. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
And we finish with a hymn with which any singer can identify, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
O For A Thousand Tongues. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
Next week, Pam is in Salisbury where she encounters flower power | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
on a spectacular scale and discovers the remarkable story | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
of the church on the battlefield. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
There's glorious music from Hayley Westenra | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
and favourite hymns from beautiful Salisbury Cathedral. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
E-mail [email protected] | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 |