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The President promised this would be a big day for US National security. | :00:07. | :00:14. | |
And good to his word, Donald Trump is pressing ahead | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
with plans to tighten the borders of the United States. | :00:18. | :00:26. | |
We're going to build a wall. We have to build a wall. And he promises | :00:27. | :00:37. | |
Mexico will pay for the ball eventually. There will be a payment, | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
it will be in perhaps the complicated form and you have to | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
understand what I'm doing is good for the US and also good for Mexico. | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
It's reported the President will also ask for a review | :00:49. | :00:51. | |
of the way terrorist suspects are interrogated. | :00:52. | :00:52. | |
We'll hear from the CIA Director who closed the black site prisons. | :00:53. | :01:00. | |
It would be a mistake to go back to that and could be damaging in terms | :01:01. | :01:05. | |
of our image to the rest of the world. | :01:06. | :01:06. | |
In other news, some have dismissed as a distraction but the president | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
He is ordering a major investigation into voter fraud, | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
still convinced that illegal votes affected the election result. | :01:14. | :01:15. | |
And gun violence in Chicago - the President says he is considering | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
sending in the Feds - would it help? | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
Hello it is Wednesday afternoon here in Washington, | :01:23. | :01:36. | |
Donald Trump has promised a "big day" in the reform of America's | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
The President is outlining changes to immigration, visa controls, | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
and a crack down on gun violence in Chicago. | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
And of course there is the promise, which he made throughout | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
that election campaign, to build that wall. | :01:54. | :02:01. | |
He's also given his first TV interview as President, | :02:02. | :02:03. | |
here is what he said about that Wall to ABC News... | :02:04. | :02:13. | |
Ultimately we will start negotiations relatively soon with | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
Mexico and we will be reimbursed by Mexico. So the American taxpayer | :02:19. | :02:25. | |
will pay for the ball first. We will be reimbursed at a later date from | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
whatever transaction we make from Mexico. The Mexican president said | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
Mexico will not pay and added it goes against their dignity as a | :02:36. | :02:42. | |
country and as Mexicans. He has to say that. I'm just telling you, | :02:43. | :02:47. | |
there will be a payment, it will be perhaps in a complicated form, and | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
you have to understand what I'm doing is good for the US and also | :02:52. | :02:57. | |
good for Mexico. We want a stable and solid Mexico. When does | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
construction begin. As soon as we can physically do it. Within months? | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
I would say within months and certainly planning is starting | :03:07. | :03:07. | |
immediately. Our North America editor | :03:08. | :03:17. | |
Jon Sopel is here. He needs to be seen to be moving on | :03:18. | :03:28. | |
this issue? It was the signature mark of his campaign and whichever | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
rally Kuwait to it was, build a wall. Then he would ask who is going | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
to pay and the crowd would say, Mexico. Except of course initially | :03:39. | :03:45. | |
it will be the US taxpayer. Possibly Mexico, maybe. Because of course the | :03:46. | :03:49. | |
US taxpayer is going to fund this. He is saying there will be some | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
payment, it will be complicated. What does any of that mean. He has | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
got to get going on it but quite what is going to be because during | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
the campaign will lead to the it would be a 20 foot high wall | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
stretching 2000 miles. I do not think he is quite envisaging that | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
corrupt part of it will be offence, part of that reinforced wall, not | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
quite all but it seems. Maybe that is something got used to when | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
dealing with Donald Trump. He starts from one position, we end up up | :04:21. | :04:29. | |
somewhere else. There's the issue of whether the president wants to | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
review the American policy on black site prisons and interrogation | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
techniques. Two or three hours ago I felt I was reliving an episode of | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
Homeland. Extraordinary rendition. Water boarding, black sites. All the | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
rest of it, enhanced interrogation techniques. He left it open in the | :04:49. | :04:56. | |
ABC interview and throughout the campaign. He said he would do | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
tougher stuff than water boarding. So it came to the White House | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
briefing, which ended 30 minutes ago and the President's spokesman Sean | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
Spicer was asked about it. Can you shed light on the draft memo going | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
around about interrogation practices. It is not the White House | :05:16. | :05:25. | |
document. Those who have reported on it, I think this is the second day | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
we had a document that was not a White House document reported on as | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
a factual document. I have no idea where it came from. But it is not a | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
White House document. Does that clear it up? I would have thought if | :05:40. | :05:48. | |
it was complete baloney, he would have had huge joy in saying it is | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
complete baloney. Instead of which he said it is not a White House | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
document, to my knowledge the president has not seen it. So I | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
think there is an area of ambiguity is still in there somewhere. It | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
clearly is not about to be an executive order that is going to be | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
signed tomorrow. But if you read the document there has been a lot of | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
careful work gone into drafting it, what it would mean, what it would | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
not mean, changes to the army manual. So perhaps it is something | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
on the back burner but not the full force, White House document, | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
publication tomorrow or the day after. Yesterday we spoke about | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
special advisers Stephen Bannon who of course was critical of the Obama | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
attitude towards tackling terror. But we heard from the Defence | :06:35. | :06:40. | |
Secretary James Mathis who has a more relaxed view on this. So is | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
there going to be tension? I think there is tension between the | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
populists and the old guard, I think there are tensions between radicals | :06:50. | :06:56. | |
and more traditionally conservative elements. James Mathis the Defence | :06:57. | :06:59. | |
Secretary thought he had convinced Donald Trump that actually the whole | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
issue of torture, forget the human rights aspect of it, he says it is | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
simply not working. Much better to give someone you are interrogating a | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
couple of beers and the cigarette than to start trying to water board | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
them and hope you will get information that way. So it seems | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
there is a tension within the administration, but not a White | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
House document according to Sean Spicer. And has been more news, | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
about the voter fraud issue. President Trump tweeting again about | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
this issue. We spoke of it yesterday. Is it now becoming a | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
political tool with which the president and the Supreme Court will | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
be able to look at voting rights issues in America? That is leaping a | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
lot of logical steps down the way but not unreasonable. Let's hear | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
what the critical voices are saying. It is simple, he is the thin skinned | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
narcissist and cannot accept that he lost the popular vote to Hillary | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
Clinton, all driven by that. But other people, what happens if there | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
is a review and it does not come up with the conclusion saying there was | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
voter fraud but there is to eliminate any perception that there | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
is voter fraud, in future elections there should be people having to | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
produce identity before they are able to vote. That could have the | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
effect of suppressing voter turnout especially amongst poor | :08:23. | :08:24. | |
African-American communities, who are most likely to vote Democrat. | :08:25. | :08:30. | |
That story is dominating American media this morning. Let's get | :08:31. | :08:41. | |
reaction from former Republican governor of Virginia Jim Gilmore. | :08:42. | :08:52. | |
You trained on the Arizona border before you went to work in US | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
intelligence in Europe. Do you think it is actually possible to build | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
this wall, 1900 miles long, along the US, Mexican border? It is pretty | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
long and when I was their training as an intelligence agent there is a | :09:07. | :09:13. | |
lot of vast desert space. The thrust of what the president is saying is | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
that the days of open borders are over, we must be able to control our | :09:18. | :09:20. | |
borders and that means he's going to build a wall, at least some barrier, | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
across the southern border of the US. It is going to control people | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
just walking across the border either with drugs or dangerous | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
situations and that is built thrust of what the President is saying. | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
Technically where the bricks go, where those monitors go, that will | :09:41. | :09:42. | |
be left to the Department of Homeland Security. And what about | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
reimbursement, we heard President Trump saying there will be initially | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
American taxpayers paying for this and then they will get reimbursed by | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
the Mexicans. How is that going to work in practice, how do we know the | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
Mexicans had said they're not going to pay for this, are going to say | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
fine, we will do so? Well first I would say this, the Mexican | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
government needs to understand it has an obligation to control its | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
side of the border and prevent people who are dangerous to the | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
United States from simply walking across the border. They're not doing | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
that. They do nothing to protect their neighbour to the north. | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
Therefore we have an obligation to the American people to protect | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
ourselves up as far as how that is financially going to be handled, the | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
with our Mexican labourers on trade with our Mexican labourers on trade | :10:37. | :10:39. | |
issues and a variety of other issues and I'm sure there will be some | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
horse trading and swapping going on to make sure the American people are | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
protected as they protect themselves. I spent a lot of time in | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
the last year on the borders in Europe, we had a migrant crisis for | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
some time and there is evidence that fences do work. Looking at Hungary | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
and Bulgaria, migrants have been directed around those countries and | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
perhaps those governments would say they do work. But you will know all | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
it really does is to channel people through a different direction and | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
people take more risks to get to where they want to go. It happens | :11:14. | :11:20. | |
but the alternative is simply not to have any kind of border control of | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
any kind. No winning you -- in Europe should really be doing that. | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
For the UK part of the impetus towards Brexit was to make sure they | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
had control of their own borders and did not have to live in a regime | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
where they had to accept anyone from within the EU willy-nilly. So | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
because of the Middle East crisis and the terrorist war weary and | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
internationally, there is much more of a move now for civilised | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
countries to begin to force more protections on behalf of their own | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
people. So fences can at least bring some control and make a focus on who | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
is going where and give us a better handle on movement of people. Thank | :11:58. | :12:08. | |
you. And we will of course bring pictures from the Department of | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
Homeland Security word Donald Trump is currently, as soon as we get | :12:13. | :12:14. | |
anything from that. Well there is speculation about the | :12:15. | :12:30. | |
reopening of black sites centres. And of course Christian it comes | :12:31. | :12:42. | |
at a time when the President's relationship with the intelligence | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
community is already The president's feud with the US | :12:46. | :12:47. | |
intelligence services began before He dismissed the need for a daily | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
intelligence briefing, He attacked a report by intelligence | :12:51. | :12:53. | |
agencies that said Russian hackers meddled in the US election | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
with the aim of getting He wrongly accused US intelligence | :12:58. | :13:00. | |
of leaking and unverified dossier that alleged the Russians had | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
compromising material on him, and then in a tweet, | :13:04. | :13:05. | |
he compared the same intelligence The very first day after his | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
inauguration, Mr Trump went to Langley in a bid to make amends | :13:09. | :13:17. | |
with the CIA. I want to say that there | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
is nobody that feels stronger about the intelligence community | :13:23. | :13:25. | |
and the CIA than Donald Trump. But even that visit | :13:26. | :13:27. | |
didn't go so well. Mr Trump used the occasion to brag | :13:28. | :13:36. | |
about his victory and complain about the press coverage | :13:37. | :13:39. | |
of the inauguration. John Brennan, the man who led | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
the CIA until resigning last week, called it a despicable | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
display of self-aggrandisement. It is not unheard of for the White | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
House to have a confrontational After all, sometimes a president | :13:54. | :13:56. | |
might want to do something for his own political reasons that | :13:57. | :14:05. | |
doesn't really work And that has caused | :14:06. | :14:07. | |
inherent tensions. President Bush clashed repeatedly | :14:08. | :14:09. | |
with the agency over Iraq. Once dismissing a report on the | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
course of the war as just guessing. One of his most controversial | :14:14. | :14:17. | |
decisions was the sanctioning of so-called black sites, | :14:18. | :14:19. | |
secret overseas CIA President Obama ended | :14:20. | :14:21. | |
the practice in 2009. Now according to US media, Mr Trump | :14:22. | :14:28. | |
is reviewing both that decision I've been speaking to Leon Panetta | :14:29. | :14:30. | |
who served as both head of the CIA and later the Defense Department | :14:31. | :14:44. | |
under President Obama In 2009 as director of the CIA you | :14:45. | :15:00. | |
gave the water to the agency to close the Black sites prisons. Mr | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
Trump is now reportedly reviewing those black sites and enhanced | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
interrogation techniques or torture, if you call it that. Do you think | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
that would be good for national security in America? I think it | :15:15. | :15:22. | |
would be a serious mistake to take a backward step on those issues. The | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
reality is we do not really need black sites, we do not need to use | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
enhanced interrogation in order to get the information that is | :15:33. | :15:39. | |
required. General matters believes that, I think others in the | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
intelligence business believe that. The FBI believe that. So I think it | :15:44. | :15:47. | |
would be a mistake to go back to that and I think it could be | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
damaging in terms of our image to the rest of the world. In an | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
interview with ABC News Mr Trump appears to have said that whilst he | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
was surprised that the new Defence Secretary does not think that | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
enhanced interrogation techniques, torture, work, he has spoken to | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
people in the intelligence community in the past 24 hours who have a | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
different opinion and he's very much living it on the table. What you | :16:14. | :16:15. | |
make of these differences of opinion? It is hard to know what | :16:16. | :16:27. | |
exactly is going on. Within the mind of the president right now. He has | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
talked about going back to torture, but I think a lot of people regard | :16:32. | :16:40. | |
that as not only a violation of our values in this country but a | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
violation of the constitution. So I think it would be a mistake in fact | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
to even raise the possibility that we would go back to those methods. | :16:51. | :16:58. | |
The reality is that we have been successful at being able to get the | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
intelligence that we need in order to protect this country. We have not | :17:04. | :17:09. | |
had another attack since September the 11th. We have been able to | :17:10. | :17:12. | |
protect this country and do what is necessary in order to deal with | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
terrorism. And we can do it not only in ways that protect our security, | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
but that also protect our values. Even you yourself have the time | :17:24. | :17:25. | |
suggested some of the information that America has got on planned | :17:26. | :17:31. | |
terrorist activities came from these methods of interrogation. You have | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
left that door open yourself, that some of these methods may work? The | :17:36. | :17:43. | |
reality is that in the process of conducting some of these | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
interrogations there is no question that information was produced, how | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
valuable it was, how much of an impact it had, whether we could get | :17:53. | :17:57. | |
from other sources, is a question. My view is when President Obama in | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
his executive order said we would not continue enhanced procedures, | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
that we would not engage in torture, that that was a very important step | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
for this country to take. Because it was a symbol to the rest of the | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
world that we're going to adhere to our values and to what we believe in | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
and so I think that is the proper course for the United States to take | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
it up to go back on that, to resurrect all those procedures | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
again, I think would be damaging not only to our image in the world, I do | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
not think it would be effective in terms of our ability to protect the | :18:36. | :18:42. | |
security of our country. You raised the constitutionality of this | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
process, Senator McCain said this morning that the law is the law. | :18:47. | :18:53. | |
What position would this put CIA officers in potentially, if the | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
president were to ask them to use these techniques? We are going back | :18:58. | :19:11. | |
to a process that we went through in the period after September the 11th. | :19:12. | :19:18. | |
And in order to justify what they would do, they would need to have a | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
legal opinion from the Justice Department that in fact came to the | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
conclusion that is doing these kinds of procedures would be | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
constitutional and would be legal. If that does not happen, there's no | :19:34. | :19:39. | |
way in the world that an intelligence officer is going to | :19:40. | :19:42. | |
proceed with those procedures knowing that it could violate our | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
law. It is just not going to happen. But you know what lawyers are like | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
and presumably if you want to find a lawyer who says this is | :19:52. | :19:54. | |
constitutional, President Trump would do that. It is not that simple | :19:55. | :20:04. | |
to say that if you can find a lawyer in some basement who can come to | :20:05. | :20:10. | |
that conclusion, that that would be sufficient for the CIA and other | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
intelligence agencies to act upon. The reality is this would have to be | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
an opinion that a number of lawyers at the Justice Department would have | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
to agree to. The Attorney General would have to agree to. And I think | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
legal scholars in this country would have to look at it and make a | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
determination whether it is a valid opinion or not. So there are a lot | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
of steps that would have to be taken before any of this would be put into | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
action. Are you worried about the direction in which Donald Trump is | :20:44. | :20:50. | |
taking the United States? I worry that the president needs to | :20:51. | :20:57. | |
understand that as president of the United States he should stay focused | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
on the most important issue which is protecting our country. And | :21:02. | :21:07. | |
protecting our values as a country. I think it is a little dangerous | :21:08. | :21:13. | |
when he starts to imply that we're going to things that we have | :21:14. | :21:19. | |
recognised where wrong steps to take in the past. And to suddenly engage | :21:20. | :21:26. | |
in that kind of controversy when we have to deal with threats in the | :21:27. | :21:29. | |
world, we have to deal with terrorism, we have to deal with | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
Russia, with China, with North Korea, with cyber attacks, there are | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
a lot of threats facing the United States. It seems to me to be a huge | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
waste of time to divert attention to some of this effort is talking about | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
when frankly his attention ought to be devoted to how do we counter our | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
adversaries in the world. Thank you very much for joining us. He said it | :21:55. | :22:01. | |
would be a mistake to go back on some of the things appearing in this | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
report today. And very damaging to the United States image. I would | :22:07. | :22:09. | |
think a lot of people in Europe are nervous about the idea of rendition | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
again and these black cop sites around the world. This is going to | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
be controversial if indeed President Trump really is thinking of reviving | :22:20. | :22:24. | |
either the black sites or enhanced interrogation techniques. You heard | :22:25. | :22:30. | |
Mr Panetta there, and there is a big split in the administration because | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
you have the new director of the CIA Mike Pompeo and the Secretary of | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
they do not think torture works and they do not think torture works and | :22:41. | :22:43. | |
this is the way America should go. So how is Donald Trump going to | :22:44. | :22:49. | |
square those things? We are still waiting for Donald Trump to speak at | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
the Department of Homeland Security. There is the audience waiting. Let's | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
just talk a bit about executive orders. We spoke a lot about them in | :22:57. | :23:03. | |
the past 23 days. He is finding a number of them. What can force do | :23:04. | :23:09. | |
they have, are they typed typed in terms of law? -- tight. As president | :23:10. | :23:19. | |
you can either get Congress to go along with you and get congressional | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
approval which then becomes law, or you have the power of the pen and | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
you can sign an executive order or executive action. Every president | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
does this, you can see Donald Trump putting his signature on the bottom | :23:34. | :23:36. | |
of an executive order. He has been doing that all week. But for a | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
present the problem is an executive order is not as broad as a law | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
passed by Congress and can be overturned by a future president. So | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
all these executive orders that Donald Trump has signed this week | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
will go into force for the duration of his presidency. If the Democrat | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
is elected next, they will be reversed. And that is some | :24:00. | :24:09. | |
signature! Three Trump Towers in that signature! I was looking back | :24:10. | :24:20. | |
today at how many presidential orders had been ordered in the past. | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
Barack Obama, 277 presidential orders, but not as many as Franklin | :24:27. | :24:35. | |
Roosevelt, who issued 3721. Before we go just some pictures of Donald | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
Trump randomly and the North Korean leader in Hong Kong together. Not | :24:41. | :24:47. | |
really, of course. A couple of impersonators entertaining the | :24:48. | :24:50. | |
crowds outside the US Consulate. Both leaders have said they would be | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
open to a meeting. Not sure they would get on just quite as well as | :24:55. | :25:01. | |
this. Not perhaps the picture at the White House would like anyone to see | :25:02. | :25:09. | |
either. I think Donald Trump has been a very good character. | :25:10. | :25:12. | |
Just a reminder that every evening after this show, | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
One of us will be spending 10 or 15 minutes on Facebook Live each night | :25:16. | :25:20. | |
talking about the issues we have covered. | :25:21. | :25:21. | |
And today it will be me - if you want to get involved then | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
You are watching 100 days on BBC News. | :25:26. | :25:39. | |
Coming up, Donald Trump tweeted he will send in the feds of Chicago | :25:40. | :25:50. | |
does not end gun violence. And this bison is part of an internal protest | :25:51. | :25:56. | |
by the National Park Service. Part of its message on climate change. | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
That is all still to come here on BBC News. | :26:00. | :26:07. | |
Good evening. Across the South and east it has been a cold and foggy | :26:08. | :26:16. | |
day. Even some grains of snow out there at the moment. But for other | :26:17. | :26:22. | |
areas it was a lovely day. This is how it looked underneath the blanket | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
of cloud further south and east. That is now causing an issue with | :26:28. | :26:36. | |
some fog which is quite extensive. Some sunshine also for Scotland and | :26:37. | :26:39. | |
Northern Ireland. Through the evening and overnight the cloud in | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
the south just further north and west. And the wind is strengthening | :26:45. | :26:51. | |
as it does so. So with the increased breeze especially for the north and | :26:52. | :26:54. | |
west that should not be such a cold night. For many parts of Scotland | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
and Northern Ireland especially towns and cities, it Frost levels | :26:59. | :27:02. | |
but not in the South even with more cloud, which is unusual. So it will | :27:03. | :27:11. | |
feel quite bitter and the cloud gives us some drizzle and grains of | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
snow falling onto frozen surfaces and so it could be quite treacherous | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
first thing in the morning on untreated roads and pavements. So | :27:20. | :27:26. | |
did take extra care. So quite a grey start again for the bulk of England | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
and Wales with that blanket of cloud. Hill fog for the Peak | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
District and Pennines and the worlds -- the Welsh Marches. Cloudy for | :27:37. | :27:42. | |
Northern Ireland. But probably some sunshine coming through. Some | :27:43. | :27:45. | |
brightness in the south of the day goes on, but adding on the wind | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
chill and temperatures will be feeling much lower than freezing. | :27:50. | :27:56. | |
That is because we have a stronger wind. On Friday we pull in more of a | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
southerly wind. There could be some snow across eastern areas initially | :28:01. | :28:04. | |
and then showers of rain coming in later. But again we are going to | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
start to see a bit of a change taking place through Friday. Not | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
quite as cold and this area of showers denotes an area of low | :28:14. | :28:16. | |
pressure which is likely to cross the whole of the UK through | :28:17. | :28:19. | |
Saturday. Srebrenica some showers. So not raining all the time but some | :28:20. | :28:22. | |
heavy showers around and quite cloudy. A cooler day again on | :28:23. | :28:27. | |
Sunday. Welcome back to 100 Days | :28:28. | :30:05. | |
with Katty Kay in Washington. President Trump says his | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
administration will start building a wall on the US border with Mexico | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
within months and America will be Coming up, Gun violence in Chicago - | :30:16. | :30:18. | |
President Trump says he could send I think I check Donald Trump's | :30:19. | :30:25. | |
twitter feed at least three There's 14 million | :30:26. | :30:42. | |
others already signed up to the POTUS Twitter | :30:43. | :30:47. | |
handle - why? Because it is an open window | :30:48. | :30:50. | |
into what the President is thinking. And last night, the President | :30:51. | :30:57. | |
was at it again. He sent out this tweet about gun | :30:58. | :31:02. | |
violence in Chicago... There were 762 homicides | :31:03. | :31:15. | |
last year in Chicago. President Trump seems to have | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
picked up on a report in the Chicago Tribune, | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
which suggest shootings are already up compared | :31:25. | :31:26. | |
to the same period last year - figures disputed by | :31:27. | :31:28. | |
the Chicago Police Department. It's unclear exactly | :31:29. | :31:33. | |
what intervention the President is proposing, but the problems | :31:34. | :31:36. | |
in the city are well known. In fact our correspondent | :31:37. | :31:39. | |
Ian Pannell spent a good deal of time there last year, | :31:40. | :31:42. | |
reporting on gang violence. In a moment we'll talk to him, | :31:43. | :31:45. | |
but first here's clip Odile is a rapper from | :31:46. | :31:48. | |
the West side, now the most He is a member of the Vice Lords | :31:49. | :31:53. | |
gang, he has been in prison, and even he is shocked | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
by what is happening. It is like somebody dropped off | :31:59. | :32:03. | |
crazy guns in everybody's hood. It seemed like it was designed | :32:04. | :32:10. | |
but I think a lot of guys need I think some of these need to get | :32:11. | :32:13. | |
killed to get them out of the way. So we have been stood | :32:14. | :32:20. | |
here for five minutes. I have seen two police cars, | :32:21. | :32:35. | |
one ambulance go by. Suddenly we were told | :32:36. | :32:37. | |
to leave the area, as Odile Hey, what just happened, | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
why did we have to leave so quickly? There is like a war around, | :32:42. | :32:51. | |
two gangs and that is why so many Somebody just got shot | :32:52. | :32:55. | |
a couple of blocks up. What do you make of President | :32:56. | :33:12. | |
Trump's tweet about sending in the fads. What would it mean, is it | :33:13. | :33:18. | |
possible? You are asking me what President Trump is thinking? The | :33:19. | :33:27. | |
feds are already there. The mayor of Chicago has been holding a press | :33:28. | :33:30. | |
conference in the last hour and has made the point, the feds, the drug | :33:31. | :33:38. | |
enforcement agency, the FBI, they are already there. He would like | :33:39. | :33:41. | |
more assistance, more help and more resorts is. He is putting the ball | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
back in President Trump's court saying, if you want me to deal with | :33:48. | :33:52. | |
gun crime, these are the resources we need. The other alternative is, | :33:53. | :33:59. | |
you send in the National Guard. The mayor made it clear, it wasn't their | :34:00. | :34:05. | |
job to enforce public safety. Would the National Guard on the streets | :34:06. | :34:11. | |
you were covering in Chicago, stop gun violence there? Certainly might | :34:12. | :34:16. | |
limit the amount of inter-gang gun violence. They would have this day? | :34:17. | :34:25. | |
They would. I have never seen so many guns in civilian hands outside | :34:26. | :34:30. | |
of a war zone, many people say Chicago is. You have covered a lot | :34:31. | :34:39. | |
of war zones. This would only lead to escalation. The question is, what | :34:40. | :34:46. | |
is the solution, do you think? Very good question. A lot of those issues | :34:47. | :34:52. | |
have been raised by President Trump in terms of education, housing and | :34:53. | :34:59. | |
jobs. I met a lot of people doing two or three jobs, just to make ends | :35:00. | :35:03. | |
meet. The reason there are so many drugs, guns and violence, those | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
three things feed off each other. Lack of jobs, so people turn to | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
other ways of making money. I was watching the film today, and one of | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
the people you interviewed said the problem got worse when they took the | :35:19. | :35:24. | |
gang leaders out of the picture? Yes, that is something I heard | :35:25. | :35:31. | |
repeatedly. And it ties into what Katty had to say, how do you deal | :35:32. | :35:36. | |
with this? If you go after the gang leaders and the gangs, it leads to | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
this fracturing, you lose a sense of control, sons of the hierarchy that | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
does exist, which means those larger gangs, which is something we saw in | :35:46. | :35:49. | |
Mexico and their drug war. You take out the cartel, and you'll end up | :35:50. | :35:56. | |
with more gangs, less control and the rules that were in force are | :35:57. | :36:01. | |
diminished. But historically, the violence has been worse in Chicago, | :36:02. | :36:06. | |
it is not just Chicago that has this problem. President Trump has made it | :36:07. | :36:10. | |
clear this is at the forefront of his agenda. He and the mayor will | :36:11. | :36:15. | |
have to do something about it. The figures last year were terrible, but | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
the figures this year are even worse. Thank you, for the moment. | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
Well for more on this let's speak to Maze Jackson, | :36:24. | :36:25. | |
a Chicago resident and broadcaster, who's lived in one of | :36:26. | :36:28. | |
You grew up in Chicago, how different is it now and why have you | :36:29. | :36:39. | |
had to move out of the suburbs in the last year? Let me correct you, I | :36:40. | :36:46. | |
was born in Chicago, moved to the suburbs and then came back to | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
Chicago. When I came back, I decided I wanted to be part of the solution | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
and not part of the brain drain. Often when black people become | :36:56. | :37:00. | |
successful, we tend to move out of our neighbourhoods, depriving the | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
black kids in those communities the opportunity to see examples of | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
success. I decided with my wife, to move back into one of our more | :37:10. | :37:13. | |
challenging neighbourhoods. I also had to face the fact I was raising a | :37:14. | :37:18. | |
16-year-old daughter. As I was trying to give back and live in a | :37:19. | :37:32. | |
certain community, there was a shoot out on my daughter, I wind up | :37:33. | :37:34. | |
telling her to stay out later because I didn't want her to be a | :37:35. | :37:37. | |
victim of the violence occurring in our neighbourhood. What does that | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
mean when you are moving around your neighbourhood, do you have two plan | :37:42. | :37:44. | |
where you go and which direction you take around the city? I would say, | :37:45. | :37:51. | |
the people in our neighbourhood, we often, you know where to go and | :37:52. | :37:56. | |
where not to go. You know certain communities to stay out of. The | :37:57. | :38:02. | |
violence in Chicago is probably limited to a couple of zip codes. | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
But those zip codes spill out into the city as a whole and it affects | :38:07. | :38:13. | |
the complete numbers. Hello, I want to ask you about Donald Trump's | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
tweet and his idea of sending in the fads, do you think the situation has | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
got so bad in Chicago, but some residents were the gun violence is | :38:24. | :38:29. | |
worse, they might welcome the feds coming in, what ever that means? | :38:30. | :38:40. | |
There is mixed opinion. For a person like myself, I couldn't imagine | :38:41. | :38:43. | |
wanting to welcome the federal government in to deal with the | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
crime. But I have talked to those people in those communities, there | :38:49. | :38:51. | |
is a sense of, we will take whatever resources we get to make sure we | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
stop this violence that is occurring. OK, are are also people | :38:57. | :39:00. | |
in Chicago who might welcome President Trump's tough stand on | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
illegal immigration. I know it in Chicago there are tensions between | :39:05. | :39:11. | |
African Americans and members of the Hispanic community? I think there | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
are a few, particularly in the black community, are in a competition for | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
resources. A lot of black Americans, even though we have talked about the | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
recovery and how great things are, unemployment is growing. In Chicago | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
we have the highest unemployment for black men under the age of 18. It | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
seems to be a competition for resources. We are experiencing | :39:35. | :39:40. | |
record violence, the mayor, when he has an opportunity to address the | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
president of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, | :39:45. | :39:50. | |
talks about a sanctuary city. Where is the sanctuary cities | :39:51. | :39:53. | |
African-Americans who live in these cities, who are being terrorised by | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
the violence? Thank you very much for joining us. | :39:58. | :40:05. | |
The statistics are terrifying, more people died in Chicago than died in | :40:06. | :40:12. | |
Afghanistan. It proves Chicago is a war zone and so many people dying, | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
over 1000 people. We are just keeping our eye on the podium at the | :40:19. | :40:27. | |
Department of Homeland Security. As soon as President Trump comes out to | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
speak, we will bring it to you. In a meantime, let's look at some of the | :40:33. | :40:34. | |
other developments today. Some of the other key developments | :40:35. | :40:37. | |
today, Russia says it has "no illusions" that relations | :40:38. | :40:40. | |
with the US will improve quickly Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said | :40:41. | :40:43. | |
he had no "naive expectations" You might remember that same term | :40:44. | :40:46. | |
was used by Obama's administration to describe their drive for closer | :40:47. | :40:51. | |
ties between the two countries. Protesters have climbed | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
a construction site crane a few Activists from Greenpeace | :40:56. | :40:57. | |
unfurled a 70 foot banner The demonstrators say this | :40:58. | :41:01. | |
is an "all-encompassing message" against the new President | :41:02. | :41:05. | |
and his policies on the environment, The man tipped to be Donald Trump's | :41:06. | :41:08. | |
ambassador to the EU, Ted Malloch, says that Britain could agree | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
a "mutually beneficial" free trade But the EU has made it clear that | :41:14. | :41:16. | |
Britain can't negotiate free trade deals with other countries until it | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
has left the bloc. Prime Minister Theresa May | :41:21. | :41:23. | |
will travel to Washington We'll speak to Ted Malloch | :41:24. | :41:26. | |
tomorrow on the programme. We should know in just over a week | :41:27. | :41:34. | |
what the full make up of the US Supreme Court will look like under | :41:35. | :41:38. | |
President Trump. In one of his other tweets | :41:39. | :41:40. | |
earlier, he wrote... "I will be making my Supreme Court | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
pick on Thursday of next week. The court has had only eight | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
justices since the death last year We want to show you a picture we | :41:49. | :42:07. | |
have been looking at. It is a bison. It has been put out by the National | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
Park service in place of pictures they put up at the weekend of the | :42:13. | :42:16. | |
inauguration and those smaller crowds, which didn't please the | :42:17. | :42:21. | |
White House. So they put out this message with the bison saying we | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
regret the mistake and re-tweets from our account yesterday. This | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
comes back to the White House reportedly cracking down on the | :42:31. | :42:32. | |
communications from federal agencies, including... | :42:33. | :42:38. | |
Although, the White House is saying they didn't crack down, they say the | :42:39. | :42:49. | |
Department is standing by protocol. Thanks for being with us today. This | :42:50. | :42:57. | |
is 100 Days on BBC News. Goodbye. | :42:58. | :43:08. |