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In just an hour, we'll know President Trump's decision

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Will he withdraw entirely, stay in, or craft some middle ground?

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There are huge consequences, for America and the world.

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From Berlin to Beijing, they are urging Mr Trump today not

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It's also important that the American society,

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all other societies and the business community, mobilise themselves

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to preserve the Paris Agreement as a central piece to guarantee

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the future of our children and grandchildren.

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And, one week today, UK voters head to the polls.

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With the race tightening, we'll hear what's driving this election.

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Welcome to 100 Days+. I'm Katty Kay in Washington.

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In an hour, we will find out if America First really

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Or, to be more precise, America in the company

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If President Trump pulls out of the Paris climate accord,

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that's who the US will join as the only countries

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in the world not to have signed the landmark 2015 agreement.

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It will signal a withdrawal of American leadership on perhaps

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the most critical issue of our time, with enormous implications

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for the future of the planet, politics and jobs worldwide.

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Under it, countries committed to capping global warming

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at 2 degrees Celcius with an "endeavour to limit" temperature

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Rich countries also agreed to provide "climate finance" to help

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They pledged $100 billion a year by 2020, many countries wanted more.

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Today, the top ten greenhouse gas emitters make up over 70%

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of total emissions, China overtook America

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as the world's biggest emitter in 2007.

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For more on the announcement, we can speak to

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will he keep his campaign pledge to the important constituency, the

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blue-collar workers in the industrial heartland, who believed

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his rhetoric that the climate accord is killing their jobs. More widely

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to Republican constituencies who believe it is a bad deal and puts

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them at economic disadvantage. Does he listen to everybody else backing

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him to stay in the accord? International allies, the UN head,

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the Pope, large parts of the business community in America, some

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White House advisers, even his daughter are worried about the

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possibility of removing the Americans from the accord, not least

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because of the environment, but also because the benighted States would

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be isolated. And its global leadership will be affected. There

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has been some discussion of possible middle ground, not completely

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pulling out, but with re-negotiating the targets that the United States

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will keep. It is not clear where that is going. It will not only be

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Americans watching, that is for sure. It will be people around the

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world. Those are the voices that the White House and the president is

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listening to. We will know in an hour. We will bring full coverage to

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you on the BBC across the world. Well, among the American officials

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who were key in getting the US sign on to the climate agreement

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in Paris was Ernest Moniz. He served as President

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Obama's secretary of You were the grandfather of this

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deal, you got it on the table in Paris. Secretary Kerry was the lead

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negotiator. How are you feeling today? The prospect of America

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pulling out of a deal that you worked so hard to see come together.

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First of all, I am curious to see what the announcement will be. But

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if the United States, if the president announces, polls out of

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the Paris Agreement, it would be a terrible mistake on many grounds.

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Fundamentally, it is rejecting science. It is adding to, and

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unfortunately, increasing loss of confidence in the ability of the

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United States in meeting agreements. And especially when combined with

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the budget, the first budget, the president put forward to Congress.

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Frankly, it will undermine our competitiveness in a multitrillion

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dollar arena energy economy. What about the counter argument on the

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science, we don't really need the Paris accord anyway, because market

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forces mean that America is emitting less and less as it is. The reality

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is, we are well on our way towards the Paris target. It has nothing to

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do with climate policy at the moment. But I would take the

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opposite conclusion, natural gas and renewable growth in the United

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States has got us down 12-14%. Other countries, who have made comparable

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or stronger commitments, don't have that advantage of an abundance of

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natural gas. Why is this a bad deal? I have never heard it explained, I

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just hear the words that it is a bad deal. After Kyoto, the issue was,

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the emerging economies are not in here. The Paris deal puts them in

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here. We don't have flexibility. We have flexibility. We are doing quite

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well in this direction. However, we do need Paris. We do need to have

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policy that will guide us. I remind you, not just to the Paris goals,

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but even more carbon reduction is required. Clearly the people in the

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United States that objects do so two France, they don't like America not

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having sovereignty over its own climate deals. And the workers who

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are employed in the fossil fuels industries, whether it is coal or

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oil, feel the agreement might cost them their jobs. First of all, there

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is no evidence that today has been experiencing job loss, quite the

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contrary. We know there have been substantial losses in coal mining,

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which started long before this. It is technology, it is mechanisation,

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and most recently it is in fact the abundance of natural gas that has

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displaced coal as a market phenomenon on. That is the reality.

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That is not going to be reversed. What we need to do, and we did in

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the Obama administration, instead, we put $6 billion into play to

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develop the technologies that would allow coal to be used in a low

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carbon world. Let's look forward, let's develop the technologies,

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let's use our innovation, and then we can have all of the above

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involved. Spent hours sitting around the table with global counterparts

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discussing the issues of climate change. If resident John pulled out,

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do you think other countries will decide they don't need to stick to

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their image and targets? I don't believe that. I believe there is no

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going back. We are going to a low carbon future. That has been made

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loud and clear by American business leaders. They say, we are not going

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to make investments in a high carbon future. Investments last decades.

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The states and cities are moving forward. We are going forward. All

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this does, if in fact we pull out, all this will do is make it harder

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and more expensive for the United States to play, and will diminish

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our competitiveness in that future market. Thank you for coming in.

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President Trump has a lot of supporters here

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Among them is Phil Kerpen, president of American Commitment,

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a group dedicated to free markets and economic growth.

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You were hearing the deck with Terry, Ernest Moniz, saying that

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America loses nothing by being in the Paris accord, and gains the

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advantage that emerging countries are in a global accord as well. What

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do you make of that? Yeah, that's highly inaccurate. In fact, the cost

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to the United States is considerable. This agreement will be

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used as a pretext for litigation, to force the clean power plan to come

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into effect. It has meant higher electricity prices. There is a

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direct cash transfer in the agreement, $100 billion per year

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from the advanced countries do the developing world. The lion's share

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of that will come from the United States if we remain in the

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agreement. We will be paying higher energy prices, and paying more

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foreign aid abroad. Two big losses for the American people. But in

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terms of jobs, as you know, most economists seem to believe that the

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job growth that comes from the renewable industry is actually equal

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to any job losses that there might be in the fossil fuel industry.

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Though it's not a job loser, being part of the Paris accord. It's a big

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job loser on an economy work bases. It takes a lot more labour to

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produce energy from renewables than it does from fossil sources, because

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they are much less efficient and productive. If you spend more and

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have more labour-intensive production and higher energy prices,

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you may employ more people in the energy sector, but it will be harder

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to employ people in manufacturing and the other sectors of the economy

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that consume energy, as well as being more expensive for individual

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consumers as world. The economy wide impact of energy prices is very

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negative indeed. This idea that we have brought the developing world

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into it, and this is the framework, it ignores the reality on the

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ground. First, commitments made in India and China, they do not limit

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emissions levels. They will not meet the promises that they have made.

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India has 370 coal power plant in the planning stages. It is

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impossible to meet their Paris commitments with that plan. They

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won't meet the promises they have made. Germany has had their image

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and increase in age of the last two years. What is making countries

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angry about the president right now, instead of ignoring his commitment,

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because there is no enforcement in this agreement, he is doing this the

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honest way and saying we will withdraw from this because we will

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not meet the obligation. That is a much better form of leadership,

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being honest, than what we are seeing from other countries. Thank

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you for joining us. And underlining the splits in

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the Republican part on this issue, this was the tweet from former

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Republican presidential "Affirmation of the #ParisAgreement

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is not only about the climate, it is also about America

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remaining the global leader." Ron, is this about science and jobs

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and the economy, or is it about American leadership in the world?

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All of the above. When you look at the fact that the United States is

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committing itself to an accord that is not a treaty, it gives a lot of

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people on Capitol Hill concern. If it is such a monumental agreement,

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as people have said, why didn't the United States submitted to the

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Senate for ratification? Why did we not have hearings on it? Why did we

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not reject it will ratify it? I was going to ask the point, this impacts

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America come the perception of America around the world. America on

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a critical issue has decided to withdraw leadership. Something a lot

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of people had wondered if the president would actually do. How

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would you respond to that? Is it a concern of yours? You have questions

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about the Paris accord in America, are you concerned about the

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leadership issue? I am. Perception is reality. The perception here is

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that the United States would be pulling away from 195 plus other

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countries in the world, and not leading on an issue. Mr Trump might

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not agree on the science, and he might not agree on America's role,

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but I am worried how America will be perceived as a global leader, which

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we always have been. Frankly, it looks like we might have an American

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president, since he doesn't believe that climate change exists,

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therefore America doesn't believe that. That sends a very interesting

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signal. Stay with us. Breaking news now. Reports coming in from the

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Philippines of gunfire and explosions outside a complex in the

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capital Manila. It is situated next to the International Airport. Fire

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trucks and police have gone to the area, when we get more on it, we

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will bring you it as the story develops in the Philippines. Back to

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the Paris accord is now. Nature and politics both abhor

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a vacuum and if America cedes leadership on climate change,

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other country's will step in. Angela Merkel today described

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Paris as an "essetial" accord. A leaked statement from the EU

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and China shows they are already planning a joint announcement

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maintaining their And Beijing, the world's biggest

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polluter, promises to stick to the terms of the accord,

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whatever Mr Trump does. TRANSLATION: China will continue

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to implement promises made in the Paris agreement,

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to move towards the 2030 goals step But of course, we also hope to do

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this incorporation with others. The Europeans will also taking more

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of a leadership role on the issue. Laurence Tubiana was the French

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ambassador for climate negotiations that led to the Paris Agreement.

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She joins from Paris. Thank you for joining us. How much

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of a blow will this actually be to the Paris accords if America pulls

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out? Of course, it's a big deception, because the US has had a

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key role in drafting this agreement together with many others. So on

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that side, it's a pity. And it's a pity, essentially, for US society,

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US diplomacy, but frankly, when I look at the reaction all over the

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world, from Europe, from China, from even BGE six countries recently in

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Taormina, again, the elements really of what Prime Minister Rudy said

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recently in saying again, certainly tomorrow in France, really there is

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an overwhelming recommitment of every country to the Paris

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Agreement. I don't think this is really a blow, meaning it is a pity.

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It is deceitful. I'm sorry for this big achievement, I'm sorry for them

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the US in particular, but I think the train has left the station. If

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you listen to all the other experts around the table early on, I think

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the train really is there. The modernity, the transformation of the

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local economy is irreversible. That is what is written in the

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declaration between EU and China. I think it is a pity because, the US

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has the lead in technology, and capacity to lead on that aspect. But

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now, I think the ball will move on with other countries, and other

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directions. It is a pity for the US economy in particular. We haven't

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had an announcement is yet, we will announce it in 45 minutes time, if

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President Trump surprises us all and said America is staying in the Paris

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climate accords, how much better off we'll plan it be? Oh, anyway, I will

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be happy, because it is a collective endeavour. The withdrawal of the US,

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anyway, will slow the movement, of course. So it's very important that

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the US stays, and the US with all its capacity, to help other

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countries, and to show were dirty and the transformation of the

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economy. So it would be very, very good news. I will be listening to it

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later on, but in the case not, I do think it's a blow for the Paris

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Agreement. The Paris Agreement demonstrated resilience, not only

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because of government, because of the capacity of many other

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stakeholders that was the conception of Paris, really having a City, the

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states, the businesses, really committing to the global growth of

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Paris and the trans-formation. That is really there, and I think the

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wave is amplified by the reaction of the US announcement today. Thank you

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for joining us. I want to pick up on something that has been talked

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about, actually, if President Trump says that America is pulling out of

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the Paris accord, the truth is that states and cities are already doing

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a lot to reduce emissions. We have California, the governor of

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California who told the BBC that they are going to stay on the path

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and Wilma Ghost Lake themselves with China and Europeans. You also heard

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that New York would maintain the Paris Agreement. We hear the United

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States is abdicating leadership, we have heard that there were no

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Republican voices in Paris in the accord. I wonder whether this is

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truly speaking for the entire United States government and us as a

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democracy, or whether it speaks for the Democratic party. Look at the

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number of American businesses, Rex Tillerson, the Secretary of State,

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who is a Republican, has also said that America should stay in the

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Paris accord. Two different things. The negotiation in December, 2015,

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it was all Democrats. You may have many CEOs. If it was a bipartisan

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party that went to Paris, we may not have what we are having to date? You

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had 22 Republicans saying they were rejecting it. Split sides. Thank

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you. There have been other things going on in Washington as we wait

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for the Paris announcement. The former FBI director,

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James Comey, is to testify next Thursday before

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a Senate Intelligence committee investigating allegations

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of Russian interference Mr Comey, who was fired

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by the President last month, is expected to testify

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on conversations he had with President Trump about

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dropping the FBI's investigation into his then National Security

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Adviser, Michael Flynn, We will bring you all about when it

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comes. Donald Trump has decided not to move

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the US embassy in Israel The President signed

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the legal waiver that keeps The White House says Donald Trump

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remains committed to eventually moving the embassy to Jerusalem,

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but the delay is intended to maximise the chances

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of negotiating a peace deal Pakistan has rejected Afghan

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allegations that it was involved Pakistan was accused of supporting

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the Afghan-affiliated Haqqani network, which

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the Afghan intelligence service No armed group has

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officially claimed 90 people died in the bombing,

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which struck in Kabul's The British politician,

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Nigel Farage, who's a Trump ally and the driving force behind last

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year's Brexit referendum, has described as hysterical,

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reports that he too is a person of interest

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in the FBI investigation. He said it was extremely

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doubtful he could be a person of interest since he had

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no connections to Russia. A week today Brits will decide

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who they want to run their country, and negotiate their departure

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from the European Union. It was supposed to be a slam dunk

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of a victory for the Conservative but right now Theresa May's party

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is only just ahead So with seven days to go, is it

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starting to look like a real race. Today, out on the campaign trail,

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both the Prime Minister and Jeremy Corbyn focused

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on the big issue, Brexit. I'm confident that we can fulfil

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the promise of Brexit together, and build a Britain that is stronger,

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fairer, and even more prosperous Theresa May says no deal

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is better than a bad deal. Let's be clear, no deal

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is in fact a bad deal. One area of the UK that voted

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to leave the European Union was Cornwall in the South West

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of England, despite it receiving millions of dollars in EU subsidies.

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Ros Atkins is there for us. What are they making of the election

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in Cornwall and how the polls are tightening? Hi to all of you

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watching, Brexit as you mentioned is a huge political issue here. One of

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the key consequences of a positive vote for Brexit was that lots of

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people that supported the Ukip party are considering switching

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allegiances to the Conservatives, the national polls have suggested

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this could be happening as well. That is one lived for the

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Conservatives. The counter is that at the last election, the

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Conservatives in Cornwall got a clean sweep. All six constituencies

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went blue. The Lib Dems say, vote for us, we will give you a second

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referendum once the Brexit deal is negotiated. For those people in

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Cornwall but don't want Brexit do happen, that is proving attractive.

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The key dynamic here is, how can the Tories shore up their position, and

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how much progress can the Lib Dems may? I am sure you were watching the

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debate last night, Theresa May wasn't there. Have you heard any

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voters in Cornwall complaining that she wasn't there? Or did she think

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her stand in Amber Rudd did a good job? I will tell you a couple of

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things directly relevant to that, if we bring the camera around, this

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beautiful beach in Falmouth. You have picked the nicest place! It was

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full of tourists and locals enjoying the sunshine. We spent half an hour,

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me and a couple of producers, trying to find anyone on this beach who

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watched that debate. We have failed to. Which told me that perhaps, a

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lot of ordinary people don't engage in big, media events in the same way

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that the media does. The second interesting conversation I had...

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God forbid! One man sitting behind a windbreak said, I am fed up with

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Theresa May for not showing up. I am a conservative. I feel she should

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have done it. I have not been impressed by her performance in this

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campaign, but I am still going to vote for her despite those

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reservations. That's the challenge, by most commentators's

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acknowledgement, Jeremy Corbyn has had a strong campaign, but that

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there is an as is airily mean he has done enough to persuade gentlemen --

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but that doesn't necessarily mean. Whether voters do that will very

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much decide the outcome of the election. We will find out in a

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week's time. I hope you make sure that you peek equally de Ligt

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locations through the British Isles through the next week. I wouldn't

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want you to see you anywhere rainy. God forbid it rains X Mac I will do.

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See you soon. An update on the breaking news out

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of the Philippines a few minutes ago, there have been gunfire and

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explosions outside a shopping complex in the capital Manila.

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Employees have fled the scene, and spoke of a masked gunmen on the

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second floor of one hotel who was firing at guests. Reuters said that

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police are now in full control of the situation. We will bring you

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that constantly as the story unfolds. I want to bring one back

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in. You have been with me all week, it has been an incredibly busy week

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in Washington. As we get to the end of the week, and we have the

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President's announcement coming up, and we have talked through the week

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about the Russian investigations, it occurs to me that there is a common

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theme, Americans leadership in the world is under scrutiny, almost like

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never before. What can the president do to prove the perception of

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America right now? I think he needs to project leadership and have a

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strong sense of purpose of what it means for him to be president of the

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United States, what is his vision? How does he articulated? And can he

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get people to follow him? We have seen tweets and a lot of odd

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statements coming out of the White House, which seems very

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dysfunctional, and frankly, doesn't have a coherent message. He need

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adult supervision to help him in the White House, for him to do those

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tasks. Great to have you in the studio. I have had a lot of fun.

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Christian is back on Monday, back from the South of France, we will

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keep one, too, though. You are watching 100 days plus, have a great

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weekend. See you on Monday. There is a change to the weather on

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the way and

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