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The choice is going to be made on Thursday. Twice the president... | :01:14. | :01:56. | |
As we mentioned one of the three terrorists involved in Saturday | :01:57. | :01:58. | |
night's attack, Khuram Butt had twice been reported to police. | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
In fact he'd appeared in a Channel 4 documentary last year, | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
Welcome to 100 Days Plus - I'm Katty Kay in Washington. | :02:07. | :02:08. | |
Christian Fraser is in London where British police have just | :02:09. | :02:11. | |
released the identities of two of the men involved | :02:12. | :02:13. | |
One, Khuram Butt, was a British citizen, born in Pakistan. | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
Police say he was known to the authorities. | :02:17. | :02:18. | |
Another, Rachid Redouane, claimed to be of Moroccan | :02:19. | :02:20. | |
and Libyan decent - he was not previously | :02:21. | :02:22. | |
They were both shot dead during the attacks. | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
Both lived in Barking in east London. | :02:26. | :02:27. | |
Police say they are still working to confirm all | :02:28. | :02:29. | |
It does appear that in the case of both Manchester and these London | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
attacks, members of the community had raised concerns about some | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
of the men involved - and it seems those warnings may have | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
Tonight London paused to reflect.In the past hour a vigil and a minute's | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
silence was held near London Bridge evening in solidarity | :02:44. | :02:45. | |
Lets cross to Ros Atkins who is close to Borough Market. | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
Let's cross to Ros Atkins who is close to Borough Market. | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
The investigation is moving quickly. What do we know? We have been given | :02:53. | :03:05. | |
a limited amount of information by the police. One man has been named | :03:06. | :03:07. | |
as Khuram Butt. Adds Moroccan heritage. He went by a | :03:08. | :03:37. | |
different name. Both men were living in Barking. Yesterday we saw a rest | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
there and today they have been more raids. That part of London is very | :03:42. | :03:51. | |
much the focus. And the Prime Minister has said today that we are | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
dealing with the new reality. Some big questions for the next | :03:56. | :04:04. | |
government about multiculturalism. On one side we have had arguments | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
about what happened in the past. Theresa May before she became Prime | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
Minister was Home Secretary for a number of years. She oversaw | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
significant cuts to the number of police. On one hand there was an | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
argument about whether those cuts were inappropriate. The Prime | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
Minister said absolutely not, it's about the kind of policing that is | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
done, not just the numbers. While that has been going on, there has | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
been a discussion about the kind of policing that is needed by the new | :04:33. | :04:42. | |
government. The Prime Minister has tried to outlined what they will do | :04:43. | :04:53. | |
if they form the next government. But have you heard about the claims | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
that community members both in the case of Manchester and London | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
reported concerns about some of these individuals and that those | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
concerns were not heeded? You are right. In Manchester there have been | :05:08. | :05:13. | |
multiple reports that someone a baby have been reported to hotlines. -- | :05:14. | :05:28. | |
Salman Abedi. One of the community leaders also said that he was aware | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
that one of the attackers on Saturday was being radicalised. The | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
counter that will come from the authorities is that they are getting | :05:38. | :05:43. | |
a lot of information at one time. Even if they are aware of somebody, | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
it's not realistic for every person of interest to be monitored for 24 | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
hours a day. Nonetheless, the pressing questions about not just | :05:53. | :05:59. | |
how the authorities go about inviting information from the | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
public, but what they do to it. This all really is for the new government | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
to wrestle with. We have had this phrase a new reality expressed today | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
and the challenges for the police and for which of the government | :06:13. | :06:15. | |
takes over to fashion a new response to the reality. Despite everyone's | :06:16. | :06:23. | |
's efforts at the current response hasn't been able to stop three | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
serious attacks in three months. Thank you very much. Doing the | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
visual jun the last hour this is what the Mayor of London had to | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
save. London stands in defiance against this cowardly attack on our | :06:40. | :06:46. | |
city, our people, our values and our way of life. As the Mayor of London, | :06:47. | :06:56. | |
I want to send a clear message to the sick and evil extremists who | :06:57. | :07:04. | |
commit these hideous crimes. We will defeat you. You will not win. | :07:05. | :07:27. | |
And as a proud and page will take British Muslim I say this. You do | :07:28. | :07:40. | |
not commit these disgusting acts in my name. Sadiq on speaking in London | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
at the vigil to remember those who were killed and those who are still | :07:46. | :07:48. | |
in hospital. Let me pick up on the point that Ross was making that | :07:49. | :07:56. | |
Jeremy Corbyn has criticised the Prime Minister about policing | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
levels. What is the reality? Is Jeremy Corbyn right that Theresa May | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
is responsible for less policing to deal with situations like this? He | :08:08. | :08:13. | |
is right. If you look at the figures they were just over 122,000 police | :08:14. | :08:22. | |
officers in the UK in September. That is just under 22,000 less than | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
in 2010. There has been a drop of around 13%. These figures for | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
England and Wales. She would say and she has said today in response and | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
it is a difficult issue for her because she was for 60 of the Home | :08:38. | :08:45. | |
and she was in charge of counterterrorism budgets. She says | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
that they are funding counterterrorism budgets and they | :08:52. | :08:53. | |
are increasing the number of armed officers. But the threat has changed | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
and what a lot of senior police officers are saying around the | :08:59. | :09:06. | |
country and the commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Caicedo Dicker | :09:07. | :09:09. | |
said the same is that what we are seeing from the Manchester attack | :09:10. | :09:14. | |
and these attacks that they were home-grown citizens. You do need | :09:15. | :09:25. | |
police officers, beat bobbies as we call them in the UK, out on the | :09:26. | :09:36. | |
streets, talking to Muslim leaders and the Muslim community. It's not | :09:37. | :09:42. | |
about just having the staff is about having the right staff of the job. | :09:43. | :09:49. | |
When those members of the community make complaints, they need to be | :09:50. | :09:56. | |
listened to. One of the attackers, Khuram Butt had been reported twice | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
to the abilities. He also appeared in a documentary. It was thought | :10:02. | :10:09. | |
that he was watching hate videos on YouTube. | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
Khuram Butt at 27 the father of two young children. He worked on the | :10:14. | :10:23. | |
London underground before turning to Islamic extremism. To my police | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
around his home. Here, he was well-known and well liked. My kids | :10:28. | :10:37. | |
just love to play with him. His neighbour says she feels falls. I | :10:38. | :10:49. | |
was blind. It is scary. Our children are always playing here. Benjamin | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
Joe would say hello to his neighbour, even on the date of the | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
attack. Yes, I remember I saw him. What was he like? Very quiet. What | :11:01. | :11:08. | |
was he wearing? An Arsenal T-shirt. Was he, when he saw him on Saturday? | :11:09. | :11:15. | |
Yes, he was calm. He was part in the middle of the road. We thought he | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
was moving out. Michael watched the London attacker with another man in | :11:22. | :11:32. | |
a white van. I saw him about 630. What was the fan doing? It screeched | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
up. It was speeded up and then breaking? No, it was just breaking | :11:38. | :11:50. | |
on the bend. He wanted women to wear hijabs. This man did not want to | :11:51. | :11:58. | |
show his face. He asked us to protect his identity. He will talk | :11:59. | :12:04. | |
about Syria and Afghanistan. He talked about them getting bombed. He | :12:05. | :12:10. | |
said they would debate Syria, Iraq and Islamic State. Was jihad | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
important to him? It was really important to him? Do you think he | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
was trying to radicalise you? I'm not sure. I would want to do that | :12:21. | :12:29. | |
kind of thing. Khuram Butt, responsible for seven innocent | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
deaths and today more raids, more searches to get to the truth of | :12:33. | :12:39. | |
those behind the London attacks. Ed Thomas, BBC News, Barking. | :12:40. | :12:41. | |
The Prevent strategy is one of the government's tools | :12:42. | :12:43. | |
It is supposed to build links between the police, | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
faith leaders, teachers, doctors, anyone in the community | :12:48. | :12:49. | |
In 2015/16 there were 7,500 referrals - around 20 a day | :12:50. | :12:52. | |
and out of those referrals, action was taken in one | :12:53. | :12:55. | |
Joining us live now from Belfast is Jim Gamble. | :12:56. | :12:58. | |
He's a former head of counter-terrorism in the city. | :12:59. | :13:12. | |
It seems particularly when terrorists are going to be | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
home-grown terrorists as we have seen the last three attacks in the | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
UK police is going to have to rely increasingly on communities to flag | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
up cases like this. What happens when those flags aren't watched? | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
What happens when the warnings aren't heeded? When the warning | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
comes in its about a credible intelligence assessment. We talk | :13:37. | :13:39. | |
about intelligence led policing which needs to be intelligent in | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
itself. It's not an easy job. Our police and intelligence services | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
have been doing a great job. There is evidence of that. As others have | :13:50. | :13:55. | |
said, these terrorists are having to resort to whether they can find in | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
the kitchen and weapons they can find on the road. They are not | :13:59. | :14:04. | |
getting access to explosives. There has been success and we should not | :14:05. | :14:11. | |
ignore that. The problem with engaging a community and engaging | :14:12. | :14:18. | |
communities is that we have lost a lot of police officers, bobbies on | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
the beat. People need to feel understood and respected in the | :14:24. | :14:26. | |
community and that mutual respect creates to wait -- two-way | :14:27. | :14:35. | |
communication. Theresa May oversaw these cuts and the manner in which | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
she did it was particularly difficult. Police warned that these | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
cuts were too deep and she derided them by saying they were crying | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
wolf. I think there is something about that coming home to roost and | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
real leaders need to stand up and be counted and admit the errors they | :14:55. | :14:58. | |
have made as they move forward. Some will say that the police are making | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
use of the powers they. The are the new control orders. It means the | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
authorities can put suspects under arrest for up to two years. There | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
are supposedly 3000 people who are suspicious in the UK and only seven, | :15:17. | :15:22. | |
seven of these orders are in place. That highlights the difficulty. We | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
are talking about large numbers of people and the police will have a | :15:27. | :15:29. | |
number of tactics, but when you get to the point when a person has been | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
radicalise, it is much more difficult. The police did a | :15:34. | :15:37. | |
fantastic job, arriving within eight minutes and even with those deadly | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
circumstances. The investments that make a difference... But if they are | :15:43. | :15:48. | |
under pressure, why aren't they using more of the control orders? I | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
don't have sufficient insight into contemporary policing to give you | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
reasonable feedback Van Eijden wanted to mean decried the tactics | :15:58. | :16:00. | |
that are being used. What we need to see is greater investment in police | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
resources, that's not just about numbers, it's about technology and | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
the way they crunch data, partnerships within the community. | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
You cannot do that without investigating. The partnerships | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
include health, local authorities, schools and others because social | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
workers, help and schools see some of those mental health issues that | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
make young people more vulnerable. Many of the Prevent cases I have | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
seen have been young people with critical mental health issues to | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
become more vulnerable and susceptible to radicalisation by the | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
criminal elements who will use that vulnerability to their own cruel | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
ends. Thank you for joining us. This is clearly a conjugated issue and | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
the solutions will be complicated and take time. | :16:51. | :16:52. | |
Donald Trump has had plenty to say on the weekend attacks. | :16:53. | :16:54. | |
Some would say he has had far too much to say. | :16:55. | :16:57. | |
One of his targets on social media has been the Mayor | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
"At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London | :17:01. | :17:08. | |
says there is "no reason to be alarmed!" | :17:09. | :17:10. | |
In fact, he took the Mayor out of context. | :17:11. | :17:12. | |
What Mr Khan had actually said was that there will be more armed | :17:13. | :17:15. | |
police on the streets and citizens had "no reason to be alarmed". | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
However, undeterred, the President dug in - | :17:19. | :17:20. | |
"Pathetic excuse by London Mayor Sadiq Khan who had to think | :17:21. | :17:30. | |
fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement. | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
All of this understandably went down very badly in the UK. | :17:36. | :17:45. | |
And lots of people here in the US aren't happy either. | :17:46. | :17:47. | |
Here's the reaction from Jennifer Rubin, | :17:48. | :17:49. | |
One is prompted to ask if he is off his rocker. | :17:50. | :17:53. | |
But this is vintage Trump - impulsive and cruel, | :17:54. | :17:55. | |
without an ounce of class or human decency." | :17:56. | :18:07. | |
There are people here who are asking questions about the appropriateness | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
of the President's action to a country that is one of America's | :18:14. | :18:20. | |
siss allies. He has a long history of confrontation with Sadiq Khan. | :18:21. | :18:23. | |
During the course of the campaign the mayor criticised Donald Trump | :18:24. | :18:30. | |
for the travel ban against Muslims. As we know, Mr Trump bears grudges | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
and you have to wonder whether some of this is personal, whether he is | :18:35. | :18:37. | |
deliberately going after the mayor because of his relationship with him | :18:38. | :18:43. | |
in the past. What I can't understand about his series of tweets is that | :18:44. | :18:51. | |
he also retweets his tweets. He is the commander-in-chief who has | :18:52. | :18:54. | |
access to the best intelligence in the world, you can pick up the phone | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
and speak to the Prime Minister, but for some reason he is retweeting a | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
report. He's done it before, on the Philippines issue. He said, this has | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
been terrorism. The Philippines police said it was not terrorism. | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
This is causing bad will in the UK and people are fed up and angry with | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
the reaction of the President to a city that is grieving and suffering | :19:20. | :19:24. | |
terrorism and having to do with it. It's not seen as helpful by many | :19:25. | :19:27. | |
people here in the States. He is also using the London attacks to | :19:28. | :19:34. | |
justify his Executive order to restrict immigration from six mainly | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
Muslim countries. This was another one of his tweets. He said that | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
people can call it what they want, but I'm calling it what it is, a | :19:45. | :19:51. | |
travel ban. This will help the president. This is now going to the | :19:52. | :19:54. | |
Supreme Court. They are good to talk about this and not many weeks ago | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
the White House press secretary Sean Spicer was chastising what he called | :20:00. | :20:01. | |
the fake may differ using that very same term. | :20:02. | :20:13. | |
This is not a mosque in ban or a travel ban, it is a vetting system | :20:14. | :20:19. | |
to keep America safe. That is it, plain and simple. All of the facts | :20:20. | :20:22. | |
and reading of it clearly show that that is what it is. Courts that have | :20:23. | :20:31. | |
ruled against this ban has said that the president is intending to ban | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
muslins and they are judging that from these statements in the | :20:36. | :20:38. | |
campaign. There is a precedent here and that is why they felt they could | :20:39. | :20:44. | |
overturn his band, but now he is still saying it is a travel ban and | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
this is going before the Supreme Court, does it give ammunition to | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
the Supreme Court to say there is an intention here to ban muslins and | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
that is not constitutionally acceptable? One very wise lawyer has | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
said to me that actually the president wants his band to be | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
overturned so he can say look, the American courts are against me. | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
Because that's what you keep telling me. Most of his problems are | :21:09. | :21:11. | |
self-inflicted and a lot of the people who have come out and spoken | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
for him today, Kelly and Conway has come out, they said that we | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
shouldn't pay attention to his Twitter feed. But he hasn't given an | :21:21. | :21:28. | |
interview for three weeks so we will pay attention to it. We should | :21:29. | :21:40. | |
perhaps stop calling them presidential tweets and we should | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
call them presidential statements. I'm joined now by Robin Wright. | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
Thank you for coming in to join me. When you look at what has happened | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
in London and you look at the scale of the response to it, what are we | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
learning about how we are going to deal with this threat in Europe | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
because it's not going away, is it? No. There are a number of trends | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
that have emerged. You see the proliferation of amateurs. They are | :22:11. | :22:16. | |
self recruited, self empowered, self weaponised. They are not the whole | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
core experience professionals like the PLO or the red B great. It's | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
very difficult for law enforcement to try to keep track of them. It | :22:28. | :22:35. | |
makes it more difficult. There is also the fact that whilst terrorism | :22:36. | :22:42. | |
was far more prolific in the 70s and 80s, today it is deadly. Between | :22:43. | :22:51. | |
1970 and 2015, there were no deaths in 53% of terrorist attacks. That | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
increased with the rise of ices. Now you are seeing far deadlier attacks | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
and far more being killed in each attack. As the Prime Minister | :23:03. | :23:09. | |
Theresa May said, terrorism is evolving and their actions are | :23:10. | :23:11. | |
evolving as well. But other things you talked about was the cyber | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
component of this. She was critical social media companies and said they | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
should do more to help clamp down on Islamist extremists and radicalism. | :23:22. | :23:29. | |
Can they do more? The problem is that in the United States we have | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
the first Amendment which guarantees the freedom of speech. You get into | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
tricky legal and constitutional issues. How much can a government | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
said to social media... The clamp-down on child pornography and | :23:43. | :23:45. | |
now it's hard to find it. You have a deep net and whether or not it is | :23:46. | :23:51. | |
telegram, which is how a lot of these European groups communicate | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
through cryptic messages, it is hard to keep up with them. They are much | :23:56. | :24:01. | |
more sophisticated than they were. How much are we prepared to give up | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
in terms of freedom to have security? Robin has touched on the | :24:07. | :24:13. | |
question I was going to ours. They have moved further into the | :24:14. | :24:16. | |
darkness. They are now using telegram. You close down one area of | :24:17. | :24:25. | |
Internet of a move somewhere else. Exactly and if you look at online | :24:26. | :24:36. | |
publications, you BC that they forecast, they instruct their | :24:37. | :24:40. | |
followers what to do, whether it's driving cars into crowds, using | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
machetes to slice people up, there was a new issue that came out last | :24:45. | :24:56. | |
month about mass hostagetaking and slowly killing people. There are a | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
whole string of actions that are prevalent on the web. It's harder | :25:01. | :25:07. | |
for countries like Britain in the United States to figure out how to | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
stop them when you can't find them. Thank you for joining us. When | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
Theresa May says enough is enough, what does that actually mean. Yes, | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
she's good how to answer that question over the next two or three | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
days. Shinnie stance it or she might be out of a job. Who knows. Jeremy | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
Corbyn says she needs to resign. I thought that was the point. When you | :25:33. | :25:45. | |
call an election, you effectively resign, but will have to wait and | :25:46. | :25:54. | |
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