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This is Business Live from BBC News with Rachel Horne

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Focus on female economic empowerment.

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from the world of business and politics gather in Berlin.

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Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday April 25th.

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The event is known as W20 and will feature the likes of German

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leader Angela Merkel and the boss of the IMF Christine Lagarde.

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We'll be live in Berlin to find out what they hope to achieve.

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It's being reported that French prosecutors are investigating

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the maker of Peugeot and Citroen cars over suspected diesel

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A strong open was pencilled for the European markets, continuing the

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rally sparked by the presidential elections, they have delivered but

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are they overconfident? We will discuss the matter.

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Making sure you hire heroes, not zeroes.

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We'll meet the man who says tech is the best way to vet new recruits.

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As a whistle-blowing engineer wins $1 million for reporting a cruise

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ship for dumping waste, we want to know, would the chance of the big

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payoff make you more likely to blow the whistle? Let us no.

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Some of the world's most powerful people from business and politics

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It's part of an initiative called W20 set up by 20

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So who's going and what's it all about?

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Attending the summit will be Christine Lagarde -

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the head of the IMF, Angela Merkel - the Chancellor

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of Germany and Ivanka Trump, daughter and special assistant

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to the President of the United States.

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The group wants to highlight the issue of women's

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economic participation and empowerment while reducing

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the gender employment gap by 25% by 2025.

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They've got a big task on their hands -

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because if you just look at Britain as an example - out of the bosses

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of the top 100 companies here - just seven are women.

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And the World Economic Forum says that economic

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inequalities between the sexes could take 170 years to close.

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between men and women - according to WEF - is now larger

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Let's go straight to Berlin, our owner Jenny Hill is there. Good to

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see you, Jenny commie of God Angela Merkel and Kristin the guard, but

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very powerful women, been in the light for a long time and it's

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interesting because some may say that they haven't done enough to

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reduce this gender it came back - pay gap. Now we've got Ivanka Trump

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going there I wonder if she could invigorate these issues? Perhaps so.

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There are suggestions that Ivanka Trump herself is committed to these

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aims. It is worth pointing out that a powerful women like Christine

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Lagarde and Angela Merkel have not been able to entirely progress this

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issue while they have been in their positions, one wonders how easy it

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will be for Ivanka Trump to do so. It is worth saying that Germany is

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president of the G20 this year and has been looking at this issue. The

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W 20 was set up in 2014 to address these issues. There's been a lot of

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talk. You have to wonder how much has been done in that time. Germany

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is led by a woman. There was a move last year, a law was passed which

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means the 30 oh so companies registered here have to have a 30%

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quota of women on their supervisory boards. I am told that has been by

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and large mat is a voluntary code. Other moves are afoot, the families

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Minister is keen to look at the issue of equal pay and so on. Are we

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much further forward? Not really. Look at the aims of the W 20 and

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there's been a great deal of talk, today, I am told that members of

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various German women's organisations, having met many times

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are due to present to Angela Merkel some ideas for heads of state and

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demands about how to move forward. We must see what comes of that. As

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you say Ivanka Trump is here. She is due to take part in a panel

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discussion focused on female entrepreneurs and how they can best

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be supported. Perhaps we will find out later what kind of key demands

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the W 20 can make of heads of states around the world. Jenny, looking at

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one of those issues we mentioned, saying that the gap in economic

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opportunity between men and women is now larger than at any point since

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2008, why is that? I'm guessing it is to do with financial crisis. My

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understanding is that when it comes to women in the workplace is a

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logjam at the top. They get to a certain point and then don't

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progress which is why in Germany the focus has been on boardroom quotas

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trying to get more women into higher managerial positions and if you

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can't solve that it's hard for that to trickle down. The financial

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crisis may have had an impact. It will be interesting to see what this

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group of powerful women says today. The W 20 has been in existence for

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three years or so. It will be interesting to see whether Angela

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Merkel, who has herself come under fire for not doing more to progress

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women's rights across the board, she's got four or five women

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ministers in her Cabinet but she isn't really known for her female

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friendly agenda. So it will be interesting to see what she comes

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out with and whether Ivanka Trump can invigorate that discussion. Will

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talk to you soon, thanks for the update. Do you know the pay gap

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between CEO women and CEO men can be a difference of about 35%?

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Outrageous. Let's take a look at some of

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the other stories making the news. The French car firm PSA

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Peugeot-Citroen is under investigation by French prosecutors

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for cheating diesel emission tests, The Reuters and AFP news agencies

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say they have been told by judicial sources that the company

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is being investigated for breaking PSA says its vehicles have never

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been fitted with software to let its diesel engines

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deceive pollution tests. The founder of Wikipedia

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is launching a service aimed Jimmy Wales says his new website

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will provide politically neutral journalism with an agenda driven

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by its readers. Wkitribune is intended to be both

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ad-free and free-to-read, so will rely on supporters

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making regular donations. General Motors has lost a legal bid

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aimed at protecting it from lawsuits The US Supreme Court,

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will not hear the carmaker's appeal, which argued that its 2009

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bankruptcy protected The Supreme Court decision exposes

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GM to potentially billions more damages over the switches,

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which have been linked And Alitalia workers have rejected

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a restructuring deal from the company's management

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and unions to save the ailing carrier, according to

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reports in Italian media. More than half of the employees

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taking part in the vote rejected the deal, which involves 1,700 job

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losses and a 8% salary cut. The government says that there

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will be no alternative. So we could have more problems with

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the carrier and possibly more strikes.

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It might have been a strike at a shopping mall in Dubai when the

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lights went out yesterday, did someone forget to pay the bill? One

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of the largest shopping centres in the world was plunged into darkness

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two hours. Shoppers were forced to use the screens of their

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smartphones! To navigate their way at! I reckon they went on shopping.

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That's the hard-core shoppers. When you are in Dubai you want to spend.

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This Chinese liquor company which makes the popular grain spirit

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Baijiu is toasting some impressive results.

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Good to see you. Have you tasted this, it's a grain spirit. I know

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you, I am sure you have drunk your share! You need a steel stomach to

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drink Baijiu. It is very strong. I've only had it once or twice. It

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will go down really easily for investors because they had good

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profit numbers. To give you more background, the company that makes

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National liquor company. It reported National liquor company. It reported

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a 25% jump in that profit to $886 million for the first quarter. That

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beat its own forecast. Because of those numbers we saw shares rallying

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by more than 4%. This comes after a tough period for the company because

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they were affected by China's anti-corruption crackdown. Basically

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officials were not allowed to buy these $200 bottles of alcohol. Now

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it seems it is doing just fine. Thank you.

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Asian stocks hit an almost 2 year high overnight -

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investors feeling more encouraged to take risks following the results

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of the first round of the French presidential election.

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On Wall Street, all three major indexes jumped more than 1 percent,

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with the Nasdaq closing at a record high.

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European markets were pencilled for a strong start -

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yesterday France's CAC 40 jumped 4.1 percent to post its biggest one-day

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gain in almost five years - with todays trade just 35 minutes

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And we have the details about Wall Street.

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America's number two wireless carrier AT, Coca-Cola, McDonald's,

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Eli Lilly and the Pentagon's number one weapons supplier Lockheed

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Martin, outside of earnings there's still a lot happening, including the

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conference board that will be releasing its latest consumer

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confidence index. Is expected to have dropped compared to the month

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before, new numbers will show you that home sales slipped last month

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and finally the chairman of the chief executive of Citigroup will

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speak to shareholders and also take questions about the strategy at the

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company's annual general meeting. Let's stay with the markets.

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Joining us is Simon Derrick, Chief Markets Strategist,

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Always good to see you. Let's kick off at this. I'm annoyed with the

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markets because I think they are overdoing it with the French

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election result. They are being so smug because they are going, you

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know, this Macron a man is going to win, Marine Le Pen could not

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possibly win. Well, Brexit, people couldn't leave the EU and Trump

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couldn't be President! Last year we were hit by a lot of issues, the US

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election, Brexit, the Italian referendum, so at the start of this

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year, everyone will be on the sidelines. We won't know the issues

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that are coming. By the end of the first quarter when things didn't

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appear quite as bad, confidence came back and then they saw the story

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yesterday and that was another little box ticked, one less thing to

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worry about perhaps. A wall of money out there looking to invest and

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looking for good returns. Are they being overly confident? Your point

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is right. That was only the first round. And while the odds are

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against Mr Macron losing, if he makes some kind of mistake along the

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way of course things could go and from that perspective may be

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investors are being overconfident but I think that's just the stories

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since mid to late March that the confidence has come back and maybe

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it is blinding people to some of the issues and there. About President

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Trump, we are awaiting some tax announcements from him, some

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investors hope it will cut corporation tax down, how likely is

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it that he could get that through? He's certainly been talking about it

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and the Treasury Secretary has been talking about tax changes and

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markets would love it if he perched corporate tax rate down, no question

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of it. The problems are that there are lots of fiscally conservative

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Republicans there to get these points past. We will be hitting the

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debt ceiling for you as borrowings of this is going to be an issue.

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Remember how hard he found to get health reform through? This could be

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the same story. If he does get through them the question is where

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does the money come from because quite clearly whilst he's hoping

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that it will be revenue positive over a decade, in the short term he

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still has to borrow the money and that will push interest rates higher

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in the US. Simon, thank you for your time. Short and sweet, we always

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appreciate it! We will meet the man who says this type of computing is

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the best way to vet potential recruits.

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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It's one of the biggest privately owned property

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groups in the world has just published its annual results.

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The Grosvenor Group, owned by the Duke of Westminster,

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is one of the UK's largest property owners and made profits

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Mark Preston is the CEO of the Grosvenor Group.

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Mark, it is always good to have you with us. Thank you for coming in.

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You're a good bellwether for the global property market. But let's

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start with the UK. We hear mixed reports and you Brits love your

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property prices, but we hear mixed reports about the UK property

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market, it's up, it's down, it's going to be impacted by Brexit.

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What's your take? As far as Grosvenor is concerned, our UK

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business which is over half our global portfolio is concentrated

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heavily on London so where a particular segment of the market,

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but over the last year or two, it is not news that the market has been

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cooling and in particular, on the upper end of the residential market

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and we have quite a bit of exposure to that in London, it has been

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cooling for a while and in particular with the rises in stamp

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duty and the Brexit chilling effect last year, we have seen those

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returns come down and we had anticipated that to a large degree

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and sold quite a bit in anticipation of that in the UK to fund future

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development projects in the UK and elsewhere over the next several

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years. Let's talk about elsewhere. Globally, what's hot, what's not,

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where are you going in or where are you leaving or getting out? We have

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been investing overseas. The strategy of diversionification is

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one that we have carried on. We are in North America and Asia and

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Australia. We're well diversified and that's the deliberate policy of

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ours. Have you been getting out of regions or countries around the

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world? No, on the whole, we have been trying to enter new markets

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tarking the view that by being more broadly spread over the long-term we

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will balance out our returns. If you look at 2016, the UK results were

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poor, but our overseas results were good and when flattered by the

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depression of sterling last year, we came up with an overall return of 8%

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which is pretty good. Mark Preston, thank you very much for joining us.

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A story on Costa and their owner being punished by shareholders for

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caution over consumer demand. Both of them seeing share prices falling.

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Leading women from the worlds of business and politics

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are gathering in Berlin to find ways of boosting female

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Germany's Angela Merkel is attending as is IMF chief, Christine Lagarde.

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The American first daughter is attending as well.

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A quick look at how markets are faring.

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We were expecting a strong start following on from the rally after

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the French Presidential elections over the weekend and they're doing

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well. Not up too high, but all in the green.

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There isn't a business or organisation in the world that

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doesn't have to get involved in recruitment at some stage.

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So let's get the Inside Track on how to find the right people.

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Many companies turn to the HR or human resources industry

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which is worth around $453 billion worldwide according to

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One reason it's growing is because of the apparent trend

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for people to change jobs more frequently.

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LinkedIn found US workers who graduated college between 2006

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and 2010 averaged nearly three jobs in their first five years of work

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compared to 1.6 for those who graduated 20 years earlier.

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It means companies have more time consuming reference checks to do.

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Australia based XRef says it has the answer

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Lee-Martin Seymour is one of the men who came up with the idea

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Lee Martin thank you very much for coming in this morning. Explain to

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us how your company works and how it is dimp... More the dummies, me!

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Well, if you think about the traditional process of collecting

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references, it's done over the phone. It is an arduous process.

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Many recruiters and HR directors just don't like doing it. It takes

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days to collect feedback on potential candidates and when we are

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short of skills we need tools like XRef to be able to reduce that time

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to hire and help with things like attrition. Myself and the other

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co-founder basically took the manual, arduous process, that's

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existed for hundreds of years, and decided to awe mate it in the Cloud.

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And what happens now is that the process is centred around the

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candidate. So instead of an employer making phone calls over days to try

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and collect this feedback, they simply go to XRef and they enter the

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candidate details and in 15 seconds and that's their job done until they

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collect the feedback back. The candidate adds the reference details

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into the application and the referees then get an e-mail to give

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that feedback back to the employer. Because we're constrained by time

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here, you went public, you took the company public in 2011 to expand and

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go overseas, but the companies that pay you the money, this is how you

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make money, but they have been doing this for hundreds of years. You said

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it yourself, so you have got to change that mentality for them to

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rely on this new technology? Yeah, to correct you there. We listed at

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the start of 2016. We started in 2011. We had five years and three of

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those years were an education process. Pounding the pavement,

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hitting the fond, trying to convince HR directors that the way they were

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taking references in the traditional way wasn't helping with privacy,

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discrimination, fraudulent references. It took us three years

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to get to our first employee and then another two to get to five

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employees. So it was a long mission to get to that point of going on to

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the XRef. You're based in Australia. You have an office in London and

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Toronto. It sounds like it's going well. You listed on the stock

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market, 20 cents per share and you're at 50 cents. It hasn't been

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easy sailing, has it in When you move from a local start-up, despite

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the success we had in Australia, we knew that we had a repcable model.

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XRef offers its clients huge return of investment. Our clients love

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using the product because it takes away the thing that they really

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don't like doing. But it knows no global bounds. So, you know, for us

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as a team, as a family, at XRef seeing the growth over time is

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fantastic. But I think it doesn't come without its challenges. And I

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think sometimes you have to make the hard decisions and with listed on

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the ASX, we needed a capital vehicle that would help us grow globally. We

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knew we had a global product on our hands and you've got to go all in

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and as we know, reward is directly proportionate to the amount of risk

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that you're prepared to take and I think, you know, the first five

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years we earnt our stripes and it was lovely to list as a product with

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revenue, with clients with a successful part of the planet and

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use the capital raised to progress globally. If you can come up with a

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programme that can give, a 30 minute TV programme, an extra ten minutes,

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we will abuy that one. Good luck with everything.

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He's going to give us his insight into the business stories. We asked

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you for your tweets after the story of the whistle-blower who exposed

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Carnival Cruises for dumping oil into the sea and got $1 million.

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Richard said he would do it. Nick said he would whistle blow for half

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that amount of money. Lots of reaction. Thank you for those

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tweets. The UK has a new whistle-blower regime. But it is

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nothing as generous as in the US. This is a British engineer, he got

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paid the money from the US fine. The US Coastguard went to the

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coastguard. He takes home $1 million. They said he has no career?

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No, he quit. He saw this going on. Took footage with his mobile phone

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and quit as soon as the ship got into Southampton. He made money out

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of it. Peugeot Citroen, could we have another Deysel-gate? They

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supply to everybody. Everybody in the car industry. So always defied

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belief that Volkswagen might be the only ones doing something about

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emissions and tests that go back years and years and it is hard to

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think that Volkswagen are the only ones affected. Peugeot and Citroen

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say they have done nothing wrong. They don't use computer cheating

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software, but they are under investigation by the French

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authorities. You've left us with six seconds,

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Dominic, what are we going to do? Cheers, mate. Bye-bye.

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Hello. Wherever you started the day, it was marketedly

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