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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Ben Bland.

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Can the European Union and China create their own alliance -

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As EU and Chinese leaders meet in Brussels they're looking

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to counter President Trump's stance on trade and climate change.

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Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday 1st June.

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So what would a deal between the EU and China look like -

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and what role for India in the middle?

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Pakistan's economy rejoins the Emerging Markets Index -

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a sign that stability could be returning to the turbulent nation.

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And European markets are looking like this at the start of a new

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month, but the same worries for them persist.

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And divide and rule - we get the inside track

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on the business that's split the world up into 57 trillion

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three-metre squares, each with its own code...

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It's an innovative approach to mapping that's being taken up

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by the likes of the Red Cross and Deutsche Bahn.

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Don't forget, we always want to hear from you about

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anything on the programme - it's easy to get in touch,

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Welcome to the programme, stay tuned for that Inside Track, it is

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fascinating, this three metres square here has its own unique code,

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we will explain that for you later. The EU and China will attempt

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to deepen ties at a summit later. There is concern among some about US

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President Donald Trump's Chinese Premier Li Keqiang will meet

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European Council president Donald Tusk and the head

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of the European Commission Chinese Premier Li Keqiang will meet

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European Council president They're looking at how they can

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counter Donald Trump's policy Trade in goods between the EU

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and China is worth well over The EU is China's biggest trading

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partner, while China is the EU's second-largest trading partner

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after the United States. It all sounds complicated, but

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crucial to this negotiation. The EU is worried about industrial

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overcapacity in China - China invested four times as much

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in the EU last year as European Meanwhile, EU investment

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in China fell for the second consecutive year -

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to 7.7 billion euros. Chinese and EU leaders are hoping

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to agree a joint statement on the Paris climate agreement,

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saying it is "an imperative more That of course is widely seen as a

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rebuff to the US, as President Trump looks set to announce the US will

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withdraw from the deal. With me is Dr Linda Yueh, fellow

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in economics at Oxford University. Ben was running through some of the

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issues there, if they are looking to do a deal, do you think there is

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enough that unites them, enough common ground to override the point

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of division? In terms of climate change it would be easy for them to

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come to an agreement because they are just affirming what they have

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signed up to, the Paris climate change are called, so I think

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anything that President Trump looks like he is pulling away from, for

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them it is an easy EU China alliance to form because they are giving

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nothing else away, they have already signed up to it and Trump is

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expected today at 3pm New York time to pull out of the Paris Accord, so

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I think that is one area. There are of course areas where it will be

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harder for them to come to an agreement, for instance the EU and

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China agree and investment treaty, there is an imbalance in terms of

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investment, China invests a lot in the EU but China protects it a

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economy more than the use of the Europeans don't get to invest as

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much there so on those kinds of points they don't quite see I die.

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But I should add they are hoping to make a breakthrough there because

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that would be the precursor to a trade agreement and if there was a

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trade agreement between the EU and China, the biggest trade bloc in the

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world and second-biggest economy, it would be the biggest free-trade area

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in the world. If China and the EU to reach a joint statement on this in

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what some are saying would be a rebuff to Donald Trump against his

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plan, as everyone expects, to pull the US out of the Paris climate

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deal, would it do any harm to America economically, or do you

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think that would be overstating things? I think economically what

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Trump is doing, putting America first, is likely to have a global

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impact for America, also likely to have an impact around trade if you

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starts to hint at the way multinational American businesses do

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supply chains, for instance. But I think for the most part things like

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where Trump is focusing in terms of trade and protectionism, the feeling

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is again with the Chinese and European sat it is harmful and

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wouldn't be hard for them to come out with a statement that they

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reaffirmed their opposition to protectionism, something which the

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American opposition to preclude it from being in the G-7 summit, which

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was just about a week ago, so again easy with things where you don't

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have to put any money on the table, you can just say, Trump is not

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helping the world economy, doing things that we think are not

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responsible as the world's biggest economy, so here are some easy ways

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to a firm that we will take this forward. Of course it is symbolic

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but sometimes in trade and global lines symbolism does matter and I

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suspect we will see a lot of that today in stead of a lot of concrete

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details. Linda, thank you for that, Dr Yeuh there from Oxford

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University. Let's take a look at some

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of the other stories China's manufacturing activity

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slowed unexpectedly in May Figures show that companies cut more

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jobs as demand weakened The findings contrast sharply

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with official readings earlier this week which showed steady

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manufacturing growth. The controlling shareholder

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of the world's largest meat-packing company,

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JBS, has agreed to pay a record $3.2 billion fine for its role

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in Brazil's corruption scandals. J Investimentos will begin

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payments in December and will have The fine exceeds the $2.6 billion

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imposed on Brazilian Shareholders in Exxon Mobil have

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backed calls demanding the company assesses the risks

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from climate change. The plan, proposed by investors,

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was supported by over 62% It will mean Exxon has to share more

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information about how new technologies and climate change

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regulations could impact the business and profits

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at the world's largest publicly Uber says its head of

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finance, Gautam Gupta, It comes as the taxi firm said

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first-quarter losses narrowed substantially from the quarter

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before, finally putting it Mr Gupta will leave in July to join

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another startup in San Francisco. He's just the latest high-profile

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executive to leave Uber. Let's have a look at what is

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happening on the BBC Business Live page, lots of news coming in

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including this story, as you can see, about Jimmy Choo, I don't have

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it in front of me so I can't say what it shows! Here it is, releasing

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trading update ahead of the AGM later today. We promise you it is

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live, these come in and we see them as you see them. Excellent progress,

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telling us there is strong growth with men's shoes the star performer,

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also fragrances performing particularly well, that is there at

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Jimmy Choo, which has its AGM later today.

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Pakistan has become the latest economy to join the MSCI

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Emerging Markets Index - putting them alongside economies

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This is quite a landmark moment, talk us through the significance of

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it? Indeed, the country has long been

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known as the basket case of south Asia but now it is being called the

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new Asian tiger and, as Ben mentioned, it has rejoined the

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Emerging Markets Index, it was kicked out years ago because of all

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of the political and terror related issues, and in fact the Pakistani

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shares have actually been outperforming the index in recent

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years, despite all those troubles, the continuing troubles. It is

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basically because of good corporate governance reforms as well as strong

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domestic consumption and China for one have been investing billions of

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dollars in the country, so definitely a landmark moment for the

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country. As always, really good to see you,

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thank you so much. Let me show you what the numbers are

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doing, you saw the decay at the bottom of the screen, but new month,

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same old worries, Trump, Brexit, and the election, Greece's debt worries,

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all that on the minds of investors. But ending a four-day losing run. In

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the US yesterday, slightly different picture on Wall Street, banking

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shares saw the biggest falls over worries the recent economic optimism

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in the United States off the back of that Trump pump, as it has been

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called, might be fading, more on that shortly. In the UK, the month

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of May was decent for the FTSE 100, it saw its best month this year

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despite falling commodity prices, and remember it is the weak pound

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helping to boost how earnings look on the FTSE 100, that is why it is

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doing pretty well. But lots of uncertainty still to come in the

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form of elections all over Europe. No-one quite willing to call what

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happens next, probably a safe choice. More on that shortly with

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our markets guest, who is standing by, but let's head to the US, where

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Samir Hussein has an assessment of what we move the market on Wall

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Street. US paints and coatings maker PPG

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Industries have until Thursday midnight to either file papers

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with Dutch regulators detailing its plans to launch

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a formal bid for the paint maker Akzo Nobel, or walk away

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for at least six months. Those plans will also include

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the actual bidding price. Earlier this week Dutch regulators

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denied PPG Industries' request The US Commerce Department

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will likely report that construction spending is up 0.5% in April

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from a 0.2% fall in March. And finally, auto-makers report may

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US car and truck sales, with investors watching to see

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if the industry can snap A third down month in a row

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could put pressure on Detroit auto-makers to order more lay-offs

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and production cuts. Simon Derrick, chief markets

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strategist at the Bank Nice to see you. All this data from

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China, two differing pictures depending on which bit you choose to

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go with. And I think the weakening economy story is the central one

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here, the latest manufacturing numbers confirm that. Over the

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course of the last month or so the Chinese markets have been reacting

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very negatively to this, you had seen the equity markets down, Moody

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's downgraded China last week. Over the last few days, something curious

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has happened, there has been talked about some of the big state banks in

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China, some talk about the national team stepping in to support the

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equity markets, equities are up, and it feels as though what we are

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seeing is an attempt to support markets, an attempt to reconfirm

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that they are there to provide stability. Whether that is possible

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in the long-term, given the fact that we have this underlying

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weakness and underlying concerns in the Chinese market, tough to say,

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but clear that the authorities want to try and provide support. Let's

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talk about the Fed briefly as well because we also talked about what

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happens next and it is interesting if you look at what Trump has been

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doing, there was all of that excitement which has faded away and

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it is whether they can put a floor under this. Yes, fairly anodyne

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reports on the US economy did not sound full throated. The question is

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now, are we going to have a second rate hike before the end of the

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year? Given what we have heard from the Fed, it suggests maybe it is

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open to question. If that is true, we may be talking about that. There

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has been talk about it being a done deal but the markets have got ahead

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of themselves? From the perspective of June, guidance is so clear it is

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hard to argue anything else. The December rate hike, maybe the market

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has got ahead of itself although governors have been given that

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guidance and I think they will back of it a little bit. Good to see you,

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I know you will talk us through some stories later including the climate

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change issue that is on everyone's agenda at the moment, whether Trump

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and the US will ditch it, so we will talk about that later.

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Still to come, mapping out the world, three words at a time. We

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will meet the firm that says it can pinpoint anywhere in the world with

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just three words. The man behind it is here to explain how it works.

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You are with Business Live from BBC News.

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We are going to talk house prices. They continued to slow in May,

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according to the nationwide. It is the third month in a row that prices

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have cooled. Overall prices are rising at 2.1%, the slowest rate of

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growth in four years. Robert Gardner is Nationwide's chief

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economist and he joins us now. Last time I think I spoke to

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somebody about house prices, they said you can't be too much into

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month by month. Is this now a trend? If you look at the annual house

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prices, things have soft and a little. I would emphasise it is

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probably a little bit at this stage. If you look at the annual rate of

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house price growth in recent years, it has largely been confined to a

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three to 6% band. We have just moved outside that. Only a little below.

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Robert, we should discuss the election. All sorts of issues on the

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table as we approach the vote next week. Housing is clearly a big issue

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for people trying to get on the ladder, but also for people on it.

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Your assessment? The key thing is the supply side. If you look at the

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stock of homes on the market, it is still close to a 30 year low. In the

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last few years we have seen the number of homes being built

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consistently lagging behind increasing population. Whoever wins

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the election, a key focus has to be how to increase supply on a

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sustainable basis. Up or down next? What happens next? We think the

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economy will probably slow a little as the squeeze on household budgets

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intensifies. There is support for a house prices from low interest rates

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and the lack of supply. Overall house price growth will probably

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around 2% and activity a little bit weaker from where we are at the

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moment. Thank you. Robert Gardner. You can read more about that on the

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business life page. Lloyds Banking Group saying it has completed the

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acquisition of MBNA, the credit card business. That gives them a share of

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26%. Full details on the website. You're watching Business Live -

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our top story... Can the EU and China create their

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own alliance, cutting out America? There is a lot of concern of late

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about Donald Trump's plans to ditch the Paris climate accord. EU and

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Chinese leaders are meeting later looking to deal with worries on

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Donald Trump's stance on climate change, and trade.

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If you live in a city, town or village, your postal address

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is probably something you just take for granted.

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But millions of people live in communities so remote

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or so un-industrialised, that there simply

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That's where our next guest comes in.

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He runs an alternative mapping company called what3words.

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The aim is pretty ambitious - to completely revolutionise

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It aims to do this by splitting the globe into 57 trillion

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three metre squares, each described by a unique

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It's already been taken up by postal services in five countries,

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including Mongolia, Djibouti and Ivory Coast.

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Emergency services around the world are ALSO using

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the system to pinpoint people with no addresses.

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Chris Sheldrick, is the founder and boss of what3words

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Welcome to the programme. We sort of rent through how it works. You can

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probably do a better job at! It all rests on three little words to map

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out a small area that is unique to that footprint. I was looking on it

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earlier. Depending on where we are in this building... How does it

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work? It is a global address system. The idea is to make a fast, simpler

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alternative to GPS coordinates, the only other thing available

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everywhere. Nobody wants to remember an eight digit Longitude Prize Macca

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latitude. We have divided the world into three metre squares. There are

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enough combinations of three words. You can go around the world and name

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everywhere with something simple. Out there in English? We do this in

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14 languages. It means if you live in a country where there just is no

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real address system you can use, what will you put when you order

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something online? When you call emergency services? You look up your

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three word address and you can use it for any of these things. How do

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you make money? The what3words app is free. We licensed businesses.

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Courier companies, postal services, navigation apps, car companies,

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anybody who wants to use three word addresses in bulk to improve their

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efficiency, we charge them a licence fee. UPS say that for each mile they

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get lost every day, that costs their business 15 billion -- $15 million a

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year. If companies can benefit, that is who we charge a licence fee too.

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Who would use it? In many developing countries it is vital because there

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are some honey parts that don't have an address system. It is also

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relevant in developed places. I lived in Dubai for a long time.

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Struggling with an address system. I would describe my address to the

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postman. That was how people found you. I can see the use it there.

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That is exactly it. There are also That is exactly it. There are also

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some places you don't think would have a problem. In London, if people

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come to our office, you put the postcode in and it takes you to the

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40 flyover. People call and say, I can see you down there. If you think

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about where we are going with cars which may not have steering wheels,

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it is kind of OK, you go, it's a little bit inaccurate but I will

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We should have a way to reference We should have a way to reference

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anywhere very precisely. No delivery driver should be getting lost trying

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to find your business. People are losing so much time and money over

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the developed world with this problem that could be so easily

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fixed. That is why is three metre square. It is very precise?

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Absolutely. We wanted to make squares as small as possible but

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make sure we didn't run out of words. How did you get into this?

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How did you get started? I used to work on the live music business.

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Every day I had to get people to somewhere new in the world, whether

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at Wembley or an Italian mountainside. Everybody used to go,

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I'm lost! GPS coordinates were a total no-go. I thought, if I can

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make this so easy that anybody from a child to a grandparent to a

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musician can use this, this would be globally valuable. Thank you for

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talking's through it. Really fascinating. Best of luck

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with it. That's the tarmac of an airport

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in Sri Lanka, which has been dubbed the world's emptiest International

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Airport. It cost about $1 billion to build,

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funded by loans from China. Our team went there,

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to Mattala Rajapaksa This is Sri Lanka's second

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International Airport after Colombo. It is in the south of the country

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not a whole lot going on here. Let's not a whole lot going on here. Let's

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take a look. Flybe is the only airline that

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operates. How many passengers do you think? Actually per day we can say

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about 50 to seven Beast -- 75% depart from this airport.

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What other business stories has the media been

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Simon Derrick, Chief Markets Strategist, Bank

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of New York Mellon - is joining us again to discuss.

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Simon, we have been talking about this climate change change of heart

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by Donald Trump. I suppose it was always saying all along... I think

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the first thing is, he has always been in there all the way through

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his campaign and onwards. That doesn't mean we are going to go

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through with this. There have been campaign pledges not carried out.

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Remember backing off on China and currency manipulation? It is not

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certain he will say something this afternoon. But it looks likely.

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There is definite opposition within the White House. We know Rex

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Tillerson has obviously got concerns. Ivanka Trump has made

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comments as well. What impact does this have on markets? Interesting on

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the day that Exxon tells us the -- they need to be more transparent and

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look at how climate change affects business. The

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there are some easy things that can happen for markets. Maybe it is an

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old energy, new energy thing. I think the markets will focus on

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isolationism. Is that the real story? Is the US moving towards

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that? If it moves towards this idea of the EU and China, is that a

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pro-Euro story? That might be interesting. Thank you. Have a good

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weekend. Good morning. Today marks the start

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of meteorological

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