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Hammond, as the government takes stock. Stay tuned for live coverage | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
of the budget 2017. and welcome to our live coverage | :00:00. | :00:30. | |
of The Budget. It's Philip Hammond's | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
first as Chancellor and it's also likely | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
to be his only Spring Budget because after today the Budget | :00:38. | :00:39. | |
will move to the Autumn. And it's the last Budget | :00:40. | :00:41. | |
before the Government triggers Article 50 | :00:42. | :00:43. | |
and starts the formal process of leaving the EU, | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
possibly as early as next week. A few minutes ago the Chancellor | :00:47. | :00:53. | |
emerged, Red Box in hand, from his official residence, | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
Number 11 Downing Street, alongside him the Treasury ministerial team, | :00:56. | :01:02. | |
including his number 2, David Gauke, who we'll be speaking | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
to a little later on. The red box was made for David | :01:05. | :01:19. | |
Osborne in 2011. The Chancellor posing for the traditional photo for | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
the ranks of the photographs in Downing Street on Budget Day and | :01:24. | :01:26. | |
later he will be making to the House of Commons and he is expected to get | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
to the Despatch Box in around an hour's time because we have a little | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
bit of talking to do and then we'll have Prime Minister's Questions, as | :01:37. | :01:38. | |
usual on a Wednesday and then the Chancellor will get to his feet. | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
Stay with us as we'll have all the Budget detail and reaction. | :01:45. | :01:46. | |
I'm outside Parliament where the focus recently has been on Britain's | :01:47. | :01:55. | |
future outside the EU I will be getting reactions from politicians | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
across the political spectrum. I'm in Hull the UK City of Culture for | :02:00. | :02:05. | |
2017 and I'll be getting reaction from businesses, large and small to | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
the Chancellor's statement. What does the Budget mean to you and your | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
family's finances? I will respond to your e-mails, text and tweets about | :02:14. | :02:23. | |
the measures announced today. Plenty of voices, not just from Westminster | :02:24. | :02:26. | |
but beyond Westminster which is crucial on a day like today. | :02:27. | :02:29. | |
To help me make sense of it all, we're joined by our political | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
editor, Laura Kuenssberg, our economics editor, Kamal Ahmed, | :02:33. | :02:34. | |
They'll all be providing plenty of thoughts on social | :02:35. | :02:44. | |
media as things happen, if you want to join | :02:45. | :02:46. | |
the twitter conversation, use the hashtag #Budget2017. | :02:47. | :02:53. | |
Use the hashtag and the comments can go into the same area and you can | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
e-mail us as well: We'll try and put some | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
of your tweets and emails to our experts and guests | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
during the programme. So it's Chancellor, | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
Philip Hammond's, big day and the Treasury released these | :03:12. | :03:12. | |
images of Mr Hammond hard at work last night, putting | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
the finishing touches to his speech before it's | :03:16. | :03:24. | |
locked up in the Red Box. As expected, he's facing plenty | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
of demands from the Opposition to increase spending | :03:28. | :03:36. | |
in quite a few ares - He's had increased tax | :03:37. | :03:39. | |
receipts recently. So I'm not asking him to go out | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
on a huge spending spree. I'm asking him to tackle | :03:44. | :03:45. | |
the crisis that's here now. It's all well and good saying you're | :03:46. | :03:48. | |
saving money for later There is a crisis in our NHS | :03:49. | :03:50. | |
at the moment, there's a He's got top understand | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
what people are going through. John McDonnell there. He will talk | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
to us again later. He will probably join us in the studio to give his | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
response. Laura, can I turn to you. The content of any Budget is | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
interesting. Any Budget is important but in such a turbulent and | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
uncertain political time, really the context is - we have never seen | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
anything like it. Absolutely not. When Philip Hammond steps out of the | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
shiny black door of Number 11 this morning what has been on his smind | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
that the country is stepping into an uncertain future, probably the most | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
uncertain pattern any Chancellor has had to deal with for a very, very | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
long time. I think today, therefore, we won't hear a very palatable | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
message from him, really. There are going to be spending cuts and we | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
expect some tax rises, too. Sure, the picture is likely to look a bit | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
better than it did since the Autumn Statement, the last big event from | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
the Chancellor but he is not prone to what he calls "lurches of | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
sentiment", kind of careering from one thing to another, saying | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
everything is fine and therefore I can splash the cash, that's not what | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
we are going to see. There's a trio of tasks he has to achieve to keep | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
his his and Theresa May's agenda. First, showing he is committed to | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
balancing the books in a long term albeit at a slower rate than had | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
been predicted. Second of all, always important on a Budget day, | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
try to do that without any big political blunder. That's always at | :05:16. | :05:22. | |
the back of every Chancellor's mind. Think last year and George Osborne | :05:23. | :05:29. | |
made a big mistake and I think talking about solving some long-term | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
problems that the country faces. Whether that's social care, we | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
expect an announcement of a long-term review and additional cash | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
now. But also things the Treasury are interested in, how do we make | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
the tax system work better, for example, how do we confront the | :05:45. | :05:47. | |
changes in technology? He has to deal with short-term pressures but | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
he will provide clues to a long-term vision at a time which is really | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
uncertain. . I think it is fair to say some of his colleagues didn't | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
like the fact he used a phrase like "a roller coaster ride ahead of us", | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
he used that last year. Are we likely to get that signal in those | :06:06. | :06:08. | |
terms? I think the tone will certainly be, shall we say, very, | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
very careful. Philip Hammond is not prone to behave in a way some of his | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
Cabinet colleagues do, with the hints of a buck inneering future, | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
Brexit Britain out, promising a land of milk and hobby. He is a caution | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
politician in anyway case but it is no secret that the Treasury is at | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
the concerned end of the spectrum around Whitehall at the potential | :06:33. | :06:35. | |
impact of us leaving the European Union. That is why, rather than | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
using a little bit of the headroom that he's got stored up, he's | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
basically going to keep that back in case there are big bumps in the road | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
as we head towards leaving the European Union. Remember, it's not | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
the case that he suddenly has tens of billions sitting around in a bank | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
account. It's that the country is predicted to be borrowing less. | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
Therefore, there has been pressure on him to say - flash the cash now, | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
get on with it, please a few more people but he's not going to do | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
that, I don't think. That leads me to Kamal. That's the context. When | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
he gets to the despatch box, today, what is the economic landscape we | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
should be thinking of? Absolutely. I think the two big things to always | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
look at, as Laura says, over the Budget, are borrowing and growth. | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
Those are the two big issues. So so let's look back first of all on the | :07:25. | :07:31. | |
borrowing numbers. If we go back to the November and the predictions in | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
the Autumn Statement, this was the time of what you might describe as | :07:38. | :07:39. | |
"peak bloom." Most economic forecasters thought at this stage | :07:40. | :07:41. | |
real headwinds because of the real headwinds because of the | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
uncertainty around Brexit. that the economy could be seeing | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
real headwinds because of the uncertainty around Brexit. The | :07:47. | :07:47. | |
Office for Budget Responsibility, the Government's official economic | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
watchdog, predicted, last November, that this would be what our | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
borrowing looked like over the next five years. So 2016-17, you can | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
seeiour yoking at around ?68 billion a year, falling every year, down to | :07:59. | :08:06. | |
about ?20 billion in 2020-21, but, not hitting that idea of balancing | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
the books until sometime after that date, into the next Parliament. | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
Despite it being, as Laura says, a key Government pledge. | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
Since then the economic news is cheerier and things are looking | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
better and here are the predictions for what borrowing may look like, | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
given the slightly higher tax receipts which means the Government | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
has a little more headroom on borrowing, this are numbers from the | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
Resolution Foundation. They suggest by 2021, the Government may | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
understood its its target by about ?29 billion. So, just as I say, it | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
is not money in a bank account that he can take out and stick into the | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
NHS or whatever but it means slightedly less borrowing. | :08:52. | :08:52. | |
he can take out and stick into the NHS or whatever but it | :08:53. | :08:53. | |
slightedly less borrowing. So that's borrow, you mentioned | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
growth as well. Tell us about that? Again, if we go back to what was | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
predicted last November, the Office for Budget Responsibility said | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
growth for this year would be a very cautious and pretty miserable, | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
frankly, 1.4%. But since then we have had, again this better economic | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
news. The consumer has been more resilient and kept spending. The | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
Bank of England, you, a couple of months ago suggested, or a month | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
ago, suggested the growth this year would be 2%. A much more robust | :09:22. | :09:28. | |
figure and I'm sure today the OBR will upgrade that growth forecast, | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
better news for Philip Hammond as he stands up to deliver the Budget but | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
as important is what will happen after that? Is this pain cancelled | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
or delayed? I think the OBR will suggest it is pain delayed possibly | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
until next year, possibly, 2018. It originally estimated that in 2018 | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
growth would be around 1.7%. Lower than the Bank of England's growth | :09:49. | :09:56. | |
forecast for this year. And the Bath has said in growth for 2018, it | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
would blow in growth compared to this year. So it is likely that in | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
growth - these are the two economic forecasters, the Bank of England and | :10:07. | :10:08. | |
OBR, will forecasters, the Bank of England and | :10:09. | :10:21. | |
OBR, will say there is likely to be a slowing in growth in 2018, of | :10:22. | :10:37. | |
course when we will be in the teeth of the Brexit negotiations. #7 | :10:38. | :10:39. | |
forecasters, the Bank of England and OBR, will | :10:40. | :10:39. | |
course when we will be in the teeth of the Brexit negotiations. #7 I'm | :10:40. | :10:40. | |
wondering, given the traditional focus on Budget Day is to do with | :10:41. | :10:43. | |
tax measures and other benefits, what is he likely to do there? Well, | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
I think what is easy to forget on Budget Day, we have had previous | :10:49. | :10:50. | |
Budgets and there are changes coming down the road which will be | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
challenging for some of the groups that the Government says it wants to | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
help, the just about managing, an economy that works for everyone. | :10:57. | :10:58. | |
Let's look at what the Government has already announced in terms of | :10:59. | :11:00. | |
what might be described as tax give-aways, to help some of the | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
groups it wants to help. The tax-free personal allowance is going | :11:04. | :11:05. | |
up to ?11,500. We'll probably see some more moves on that. That can be | :11:06. | :11:14. | |
seen as a tax cut particularly for those on higher numbers. And they've | :11:15. | :11:21. | |
raised the threshold to ?45,000 and it maybe easier for people to save | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
what little money they have. But on the other side there is some of the | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
pain that we mustn't forget. This is still a situation where the | :11:30. | :11:31. | |
Government is constraining spending, it is not adding to spending. And if | :11:32. | :11:37. | |
we look at some of the welfare changes already in place, we mustn't | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
forget there is already the cut in working-age benefit which is still | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
going through the system. The public sector pay freeze is still there at | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
1%, despite inflation going up. What is called the Employment Support | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
Allowance, an allowance for people who are ill or disabled going back | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
into work. That is being cut back as well. As are child tax credits. So I | :11:59. | :12:04. | |
think one of the big messages from the Chancellor today, is that, yes, | :12:05. | :12:07. | |
things are looking a little better, possibly only in the short-term but | :12:08. | :12:13. | |
still that drive towards balancing the books via austerity, is still | :12:14. | :12:16. | |
very much front and central of the Government project. Plenty for us to | :12:17. | :12:26. | |
think about. Simon you have been busy this week in Geneva, I'm | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
wondering what is the business focus for you today? Businesses have been | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
on a journey with this Government. When Theresa May arrived she came | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
out of the traps early warning businesses - you better create a | :12:37. | :12:39. | |
fair economy that works for everyone, if you don't I will step N | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
it scared the horses a bit. -- step in. But the Chancellor needs | :12:45. | :12:53. | |
business. The economy is made up of a few things, consumer spending, who | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
have been keeping the economy afloat single handedly, and of Government | :12:58. | :13:00. | |
spending which we know is going to be cut and it is business spending. | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
He is going to want to try to stimulate that. I expect this Budget | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
to dove tail in the with industrial strategy we heard earlier in the | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
year to give people incentives to spend money, to take on new workers, | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
train them, invest in new plants. For smaller businesses, it is all | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
three-quart earnings, two-thirds of three-quart earnings, two-thirds of | :13:24. | :13:24. | |
business also see their rates stay the same or fall for some in certain | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
areas of country, particularly snout east they face sharp prize -- | :13:30. | :13:36. | |
particularly in the south-east. The Federation of Small Businesses say | :13:37. | :13:39. | |
there are rises of up to 300%. I expect to see a bit of money top | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
soften the edges of that. But it'll only soften the edges. These letters | :13:45. | :13:47. | |
have been written, calculated they are on their way out the door from | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
the local authorities. There will not be the scope a massive redrawing | :13:53. | :13:58. | |
of the business rates. Small businesses under the cosh with the | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
living wage. And if we do get this big change in self-employment that. | :14:03. | :14:05. | |
Will be big. It'll be interesting to see whether we get the changes today | :14:06. | :14:13. | |
or whether he nods to a future consultation. Many self-employed | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
people pay less national insurance for people who are self-employed. | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
Troublesome if he does that, some may remember the 2015 Tory manifesto | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
pledge, not to raise, VAT, income tax and national insurance. But as | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
Simon is hinting, there is appetite in the Treasury for a whole sale | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
review of how this whole system works, which includes things like | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
big online retailers getting off relatively scot-free compared to | :14:41. | :14:43. | |
more traditional retailers in terms of taxation in the high street. The | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
number from the OBR last fr last year, suggested the Government could | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
be losing about ?3.5 billion a year in taxes because of the people's | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
move on to self-employment and the gig economy, it is undermining the | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
tax base where Philip Hammond has a real problem. | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
Lead's pause for a second because we are here on Budget day and this is | :15:04. | :15:09. | |
the focus our Westminster but we are getting reports that four people | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
have been injured in a stabbing attack in the West Midlands. Police | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
are telling of this. West Midlands Ambulance Service, I am being told, | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
saying they are at the scene of a serious incident in the Maryhill | :15:23. | :15:32. | |
area of Wolverhampton. -- Merry Hill area. It is being reported four | :15:33. | :15:39. | |
people being injured after a stabbing in the West Midlands and we | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
will keep you in touch with everything that is going on with | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
that as it develops on the BBC News Channel and also developments on the | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
BBC News Channel. We are focusing on Budget day and as Philip Hammond has | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
already made his way to the House of Commons to get ready for the speech, | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
we will have prime ministers questions in just under 15 minutes. | :15:57. | :15:58. | |
Lots of reaction throughout the day and now we join Jane Parliament. | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
But to Parliament and in a moment I will look at what Philip Hammond | :16:04. | :16:13. | |
might have in store with Lord Lamont and Chris Leslie but as you have | :16:14. | :16:16. | |
been reflecting on everything we're going to hear against 30 PM -- from | :16:17. | :16:20. | |
4:30pm is against the backdrop of the referendum, Britain's decision | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
to leave the EU. Before I talk to my guess, let's remind ourselves how | :16:26. | :16:26. | |
the economy has led since that vote. The British people have spoken | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
and the answer is - we're out. The Bank of England will not | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
hesitate to take additional measures, as required, | :16:34. | :16:35. | |
as markets adjust. If you're just managing, | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
I want to address you directly. I've been here 25 years | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
and I hope it's going to be We will pursue a bold and ambitious | :16:45. | :17:23. | |
free trade agreement The industrial strategy that | :17:24. | :18:12. | |
we've launched today sets I think Brexit is going | :18:13. | :18:20. | |
to be a wonderful thing. So that is where we are today, the | :18:21. | :18:48. | |
backdrop to what we will hear this lunchtime. Let's discuss Philip | :18:49. | :18:50. | |
Hammond's options. Joining me now is the former | :18:51. | :18:52. | |
Conservative Chancellor, Lord Lamont, and the former | :18:53. | :18:53. | |
Shadow Treasury Minister, Welcome to both of you. The tone of | :18:54. | :19:01. | |
this is going to be so interesting, Lord Lamont. We think things are a | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
little more rosy economically but because of Brexit, he's got to be | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
very cautious, hasn't it? I think that's right. I think it is | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
important he emphasises the opportunities as well as the | :19:17. | :19:19. | |
challenges but I think there are two things it has to do because of | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
Brexit. One is to keep a little bit back. Some people are saying tax | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
revenues are better but I think actually, he would be very wise to | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
keep a bit back just in case there are schools in financial markets | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
later. Secondly, in this Budget and in every other one that he does, the | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
emphasis has to be on making Britain competitive. This is going to be a | :19:42. | :19:44. | |
challenge for Britain outside the EU and we have do have everything | :19:45. | :19:51. | |
competitive, our costs, our tax rates, our degree of regulation, all | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
that. Those are the two themes, being competitive and actually | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
holding something in reserve. But you say that is the case for every | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
Budget but we are in uncharted territory. This is so different | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
because by definition, no one really knows what is coming down the track. | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
That's why I've said what I did! Chris Leslie, your thoughts on the | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
balance he has to strike between a degree of optimism, as Lord Lamont | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
says, but actually being cautious. Everyone is using that word this | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
morning. When you hear Lord Lamont saying it could be a challenge, for | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
that read there is a Harry Kane potentially on the horizon -- there | :20:27. | :20:33. | |
is a hurricane potentially on the horizon for the UK economy. Brexit | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
will dominate, lots of people talk about taxes here or there, spending | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
here or there but that storm, I personally think the government is | :20:43. | :20:44. | |
actively heading towards it because of its decision not to try to | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
salvage single market membership, is already affecting consumers because | :20:50. | :20:52. | |
sterling has fallen quite considerably, and inflation is | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
starting to head upwards and we're already seeing consumer spending | :20:57. | :20:59. | |
power begin to go on the wane. Retail sales down very much in the | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
last months. So where is the engine of the economy going to come from as | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
we head into this storm? For me, that is a serious problem. Where is | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
the engine? First of all, I don't think it is inevitable there will be | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
a storm or a hurricane coming down. Provided we can get, for most of the | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
UK economy, tariff free access and a free trade deal, it will be just as | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
good as the single market. You know, I think all of this myth about the | :21:30. | :21:33. | |
single market, that it is some kind of Chinese garden with a large wall | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
around it and we have do have a key to sell things in it, you know, the | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
top three partners, trading wise, of the EU have no special trade | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
arrangements with the EU. The idea we couldn't trade with them without | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
a trade agreement is an illusion, it's completely wrong. But I think | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
there is a very good chance of having a trade agreement and that is | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
what the government... It's just nonsense to harp on about membership | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
of the single market, which during the referendum, people advocating | :22:02. | :22:04. | |
for Gabi Mayne said it would not make any sense if we were outside | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
the EU to be part of it. On the other point you raised about the | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
economy, so far, the economy has been remarkably resilient. | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
Inflation, as Chris has said, has risen a bit but it is rising even | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
higher in Germany than it is here. It is not high by historical | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
standards. I don't think it is inevitable... Nothing is inevitable, | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
if the government does the right thing and tries to get, well, we had | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
better get a free trade agreement with Europe because without that, it | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
is not just the service sector which will suffer, it will be goods and | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
services, all of those companies, like Nissan, who have 5 million | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
parts per day, they have to get from this warehouse of the EU, they only | :22:45. | :22:50. | |
keep half a day's infantry on site. If you have friction in those goods | :22:51. | :22:54. | |
and services, that trade, we are going to have a real problem for our | :22:55. | :22:59. | |
business model in the UK, and so, we have do, I think, get the free trade | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
agreement but if we don't, not only will we have big tariffs and | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
potentially for components coming in, but also want the goods we want | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
to sell worldwide. So our exports potentially will be inhibited and so | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
I worry very much about where the living standards and the consumer | :23:18. | :23:20. | |
spending power is going to come from when things get more expensive and I | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
worry about the storm on the horizon with the trade issue, which could be | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
really severely impaired. Gentlemen, we have to leave it there. We will | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
find out in the next few hours. Chris Leslie and Lord Lamont, thank | :23:34. | :23:36. | |
you for being with us and more reaction when we have heard from | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
Philip Hammond outside Parliament. For now, back to you. | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
Thanks to you and your guests. Reaction beyond Westminster as well. | :23:45. | :23:51. | |
where Jo Coburn is with a range of guests to talk about the main | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
Yes, I'm at a busy distribution centre which employs about 850 | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
people in Hull. We are bringing you breaking news of | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
an incident in the West Midlands in which two people have died. It | :24:03. | :24:04. | |
follows what police are describing as a domestic stabbing in | :24:05. | :24:06. | |
Wolverhampton. There were called to the Merry Hill area of the city at | :24:07. | :24:14. | |
around 9:45am, where it is believed a man attacked two women before | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
inflicting injuries on himself. Three air ambulances were called to | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
the scene, as well as a number of other ambulances and medical staff. | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
Initial reports we received said that several people were understood | :24:29. | :24:31. | |
to have been injured in a serious assault in Wolverhampton. Then, as | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
more details began to emerge from the West Midlands Police, we were | :24:37. | :24:44. | |
told a man is believed to have attacked two women, before | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
inflicting stab injuries on himself. West Midlands Police say that a | :24:48. | :24:55. | |
woman in her 30s and a man in his 30s have died, while another woman, | :24:56. | :25:00. | |
believed to be in her 50s, has been taken to hospital with what are | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
described as critical stomach wounds. Police had to use stun | :25:06. | :25:12. | |
grenades to storm the block of flats where the incident happened, to | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
storm the flat in a bid to, we are told, destructive and detain the man | :25:18. | :25:25. | |
who was wielding the knife. -- distract and detain. The woman | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
believed to be in her 30s died at the scene. The man in his 30s was | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
pronounced dead a short time later. We understand that a police officer | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
has also been treated for minor injuries as a result of the | :25:39. | :25:46. | |
incident. Just to recap if you are joining us, breaking news coming | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
from the West Midlands, a number of people have been involved in a very | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
serious incident, a domestic stabbing, we are told, in | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
Wolverhampton. This happened at a block of flats in the Maryhill area | :25:59. | :26:07. | |
of Wolverhampton. West Midlands Police have confirmed that two | :26:08. | :26:12. | |
people have died. A woman in her 30s, and a man, the male suspect in | :26:13. | :26:20. | |
the case, also believed to be in his 30s, pronounced dead a short time | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
later, while the woman died at the scene. Another woman, thought to be | :26:25. | :26:27. | |
in her 50s, taken to hospital with critical stomach wounds. Officers | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
using stun grenades, as they stormed the flat in a bid to get to the man | :26:33. | :26:42. | |
with the knife. A police officer treated for minor injuries, we are | :26:43. | :26:53. | |
told. Three ambulances were called to the scene. We are just checking | :26:54. | :27:02. | |
to find out if any more details are coming in from West Midlands Police | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
about this serious incident. At the moment they are confirming the news | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
of these two deaths, the woman in her 30s, the male suspect, also in | :27:11. | :27:16. | |
his 30s, and a woman in her 50s, taken to hospital with critical | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
stomach wounds. Eyewitnesses reported a large number of police | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
officers arriving at Highfields court. We understand that is the | :27:27. | :27:36. | |
area of Wolverhampton, where the fatal domestic stabbing has happened | :27:37. | :27:46. | |
this morning. That is when police were called to the block of flats, | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
when it was believed a man attacked two women, before inflicting stab | :27:51. | :27:58. | |
injuries on himself. We are going to keep a close eye on any developments | :27:59. | :28:03. | |
on that story. Let's return to the budget special. | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
Yes, we are expecting to see some tax rises from the Chancellor. It is | :28:09. | :28:10. | |
rumoured national insurance contributions for self-employed | :28:11. | :28:18. | |
people could go up. At the moment, they pay about 9% on earnings of | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
just over ?8,000. That compares to employed people who pay 12%. We | :28:22. | :28:23. | |
could possibly see, there is speculation we will see a 3% rise on | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
national insurance contributions for the self-employed. Also, we could | :28:29. | :28:31. | |
see alcohol and tobacco duties going up. Maybe there will be a new tax on | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
e-cigarettes. If you have any questions about what you do in the | :28:37. | :28:39. | |
Budget, you can contact us in lots of ways, text 61124, e-mail | :28:40. | :28:48. | |
[email protected] or tweet. Back to London. | :28:49. | :28:54. | |
Thanks to the team in Hull because we will be back there later to get | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
lots of reaction to the speech itself. | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
You can also take advantage of the BBC's range | :29:04. | :29:05. | |
of expert analysis, and all the latest Budget | :29:06. | :29:07. | |
news on the BBC website - bbc.co.uk/budget. | :29:08. | :29:10. | |
And later today, there will be a calculator on the site | :29:11. | :29:13. | |
where you can work out the impact on your household's finances. | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
It's heading towards midday here at Westminster on Budget Day. | :29:18. | :29:24. | |
A magnificent sight, on the banks of the Thames, Parliament on Budget | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
day. Very soon, we'll be | :29:31. | :29:32. | |
in the House of Commons for Prime Minister's Questions, | :29:33. | :29:34. | |
with the Chancellor's Let's take a peek inside the | :29:35. | :29:44. | |
chamber. We have a session of departmental questions and I'm | :29:45. | :29:50. | |
delighted to sell you today that it is questions to the Secretary of | :29:51. | :29:54. | |
State for Wales. It doesn't get better than that as far as I'm | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
concerned! And I hope the speaker is very donors with his time allocation | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
-- generous with his time occasion. The Secretary of State for Wales | :30:05. | :30:07. | |
just taking questions there before the speaker calls for the Prime | :30:08. | :30:10. | |
Minister to take questions. Of course, the Chancellor is in place | :30:11. | :30:12. | |
already, ready Is Laura, the Prime Minister has | :30:13. | :30:27. | |
already said from scam number Ten what she expects the themes to be? | :30:28. | :30:32. | |
Yes, she told the Cabinet this morning there would be "A strongp | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
hand on fiscal tiller." But it would also "Put the wheels in motion for | :30:38. | :30:49. | |
future growth and prosperity." The mixed metaphors are not mine. It | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
shows they are trying to balance the books but equip the economy for a | :30:56. | :30:58. | |
future outside the European Union, make it more dynamic and | :30:59. | :31:02. | |
competitive. In the Autumn Statement we saw investment in infrastructure, | :31:03. | :31:05. | |
roads, rails, if you like you have had the bricks and mortar in the | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
autumn, today we might see the human capital. Skills, schools, how we | :31:10. | :31:13. | |
actually look like an economy that's really gunning along, not in | :31:14. | :31:18. | |
2016-17, 18, but much further ahead. Let's join the Prime Minister for | :31:19. | :31:19. | |
question time. Thank you, Mr Speaker, I'm sure | :31:20. | :31:27. | |
members across the whole House will wish to join me in marking | :31:28. | :31:33. | |
International Women's Day as we celebrate the social, economic, | :31:34. | :31:36. | |
cultural and political achievements of women, both here and around the | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
world. But we also redouble our efforts to tackle the problems that | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
women all toop often still face. Mr Speaker, this morning, I had | :31:47. | :31:48. | |
meetings with ministerial colleagues and others N addition to my duties | :31:49. | :31:52. | |
in this House, I shall have further such meetings later today. -- in | :31:53. | :31:57. | |
addition. Can I join the Prime Minister in celebrating | :31:58. | :32:00. | |
International Women's Day. Since 2010, Conservatives in Government | :32:01. | :32:04. | |
have a proud record of protecting and supporting both those at risk | :32:05. | :32:08. | |
and the victims of domestic violence and abuse. I saw this myself when I | :32:09. | :32:13. | |
joined my local police and I would like to thank them for the difficult | :32:14. | :32:19. | |
job they do but even as far as too many women are still at risk and are | :32:20. | :32:23. | |
still suffering. What more account Prime Minister do to tackle this | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
abhorrent crime? My honourable friend raises a very serious issue, | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
one in which I have taken a particular personal interest and I | :32:34. | :32:36. | |
attach very great importance to this issue. Tackling domestic violence | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
and abuse is a key priority for the Government. And what we have done | :32:41. | :32:44. | |
already in Government, I think, has the potential to transform the way | :32:45. | :32:48. | |
in which we think and tackle these terrible crimes when they take | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
place. We've already committed to bringing forward new legislation and | :32:53. | :32:55. | |
today, I have confirmed an additional ?20 million to support | :32:56. | :32:58. | |
organisations working to tackle domestic violence and abuse. This | :32:59. | :33:03. | |
means the total funding available for our our strategy will be over | :33:04. | :33:11. | |
?100 million this Parliament. THE SPEAKER: Jeremy Corbyn Thank | :33:12. | :33:17. | |
you, Mr Speaker. Thank you, very much, Mr Speaker, could I start by | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
wishing all women a very happy International Women's Day today. And | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
I'm very proud that the Labour Party has more women MPs than all other | :33:28. | :33:31. | |
other parties combined in this House. And a Shadow Cabinet of which | :33:32. | :33:43. | |
half the members are women. A month ago go, Mr Speaker, I raised the | :33:44. | :33:51. | |
question of the leaked texts between the leader of Surrey council and | :33:52. | :33:53. | |
Government officials about social care. The Prime Minister's response | :33:54. | :34:00. | |
was to accuse me of peddling alternative facts. Could the Prime | :34:01. | :34:05. | |
Minister explain the difference between a sweetheart deal and a | :34:06. | :34:13. | |
gentlemen's agreement? First of all, the right honourable gentleman | :34:14. | :34:16. | |
references women in this House. I think I will point out to him that | :34:17. | :34:21. | |
actually the Conservative Party has taken a further measure in relation | :34:22. | :34:25. | |
to women in this House recently. We've replaced a Labour male MP with | :34:26. | :34:36. | |
a female Conservative. CHEERS AND JEERS | :34:37. | :34:45. | |
He has asked me about the issue in relation to Surrey County Council | :34:46. | :34:47. | |
and the substance of what he is asking is has there been a | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
particular deal with Surrey County Council that is not available to | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
other councils? And the answer to that is no. As I've said before - | :34:56. | :35:05. | |
the ability to raise a social care precept of 3% is available to every | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
council. The issue of the retention of 100% of business rates is | :35:11. | :35:15. | |
currently - is going to be available to a number of councils in ip a. | :35:16. | :35:18. | |
Let's look at them. Liver -- in April. Let's look at them. | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
Liverpool, Manchester, London, what do we know about those? Ah, they are | :35:23. | :35:28. | |
all under Labour control. So what he's actually asking me is - why | :35:29. | :35:32. | |
should a Conservative council have access to an arrangement that's | :35:33. | :35:36. | |
predominantly currently available to Labour councils? Mr Speaker, my | :35:37. | :35:44. | |
question was about the arrangements between the Government and Surrey | :35:45. | :35:53. | |
County Council. A recording has now emerged saying that the Leader of | :35:54. | :35:59. | |
Surrey County Council, David Hodge said there was a gentlemen's | :36:00. | :36:02. | |
agreement between him and the Government which meant they would | :36:03. | :36:05. | |
not have to go ahead with the referendum. My question is - what | :36:06. | :36:11. | |
deal was done with Surrey County Council? Because there is an acute | :36:12. | :36:15. | |
social care crisis that affects every council. 4.6 billion of cuts | :36:16. | :36:24. | |
made to social care since 2010. Can the Prime Minister tell every other | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
council in England what gentlemen's agreement is available for them? Can | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
I say to the right honourable gentleman, on today of all days, I | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
think if we could just be a little patient and wait half an hour for | :36:38. | :36:42. | |
the Budget, he will actually find out what social care funding is | :36:43. | :36:48. | |
available to all councils. If he's - I come back to it, if he is asking | :36:49. | :36:53. | |
me if there was a special deal for Surrey that was not available to | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
other councils, the answer is no. If he is looking to uncover a | :36:59. | :37:02. | |
conspiracy I suggest he just looks behind him. | :37:03. | :37:10. | |
Well, Mr Speaker, if all the arrangements were so clear and above | :37:11. | :37:17. | |
board, will the Prime Minister place in the library of the House a record | :37:18. | :37:23. | |
of all one-to-one meetings that have been held between the Communities' | :37:24. | :37:29. | |
Secretary and the Chancellor, with any council leader or chair of | :37:30. | :37:32. | |
social services anywhere in England? And can she explain, if there is no | :37:33. | :37:38. | |
special deal, why Surrey is the only county council to be allowed into | :37:39. | :37:44. | |
the business rates retention pilot when it's been denied to others? The | :37:45. | :37:54. | |
business rate retention pilot will be coming into force for a number of | :37:55. | :38:00. | |
councils this April. That includes, as I have already said in answer to | :38:01. | :38:06. | |
his earlier question, Liverpool, Greater Manchester, Greater London, | :38:07. | :38:09. | |
and some others. In 2019-20, it's going to be available to 100% of | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
councils. For 2018-19, councils are councils. For 2018-19, councils are | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
able to apply to the part of a further pilot. That goes for all | :38:19. | :38:24. | |
councils across the country. The text, Mr Speaker, said there was a | :38:25. | :38:29. | |
memorandum of understanding. The Prime Minister said there was no | :38:30. | :38:39. | |
deal. She now is unclear about this. Did she actually know what | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
arrangement was made with Surrey County Council? She is unkeen on | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
answering questions on that. There is another area of deep concern over | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
the whole country. Could the Prime Minister tell us how many new school | :38:55. | :39:01. | |
places will be needed by 2020? Can I just say to the right honourable | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
gentleman that really he should listen to the answers I give before | :39:06. | :39:11. | |
he asks the next question. He said I didn't answer the question about a | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
special deal for Surrey. I think I've answered it now three times but | :39:16. | :39:19. | |
I'll do it a fourth time tl.s no special deal for Surrey that was not | :39:20. | :39:28. | |
available to other councils. Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister was also | :39:29. | :39:31. | |
asked a question just a moment ago about the number of new school | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
places needed by 2020, perhaps she could explain why we have a crisis | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
in school places and class sizes soaring, thanks to her Government? | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
So what is the answer on the number of new school places needed, Prime | :39:46. | :39:52. | |
Minister? Well, this Government has a policy, which is about increasing | :39:53. | :39:57. | |
the number of school places but doing more than that. I want to | :39:58. | :40:03. | |
increase the number of good school places, so that every child has an | :40:04. | :40:06. | |
opportunity to go to a good school. That's what the money we are putting | :40:07. | :40:12. | |
into education is about. It includes money for new free schools - those | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
will be faith schools, university schools, comprehensives, grammar | :40:19. | :40:20. | |
schools, university schools I have said, maths schools. There will be a | :40:21. | :40:26. | |
diversity because what I want is a good school place for every child | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
and parents to have a choice. What the right honourable gentlemanp | :40:32. | :40:35. | |
wants is parents to take what they're given, good or bad. Mr | :40:36. | :40:42. | |
Speaker, the National Audit Office tell us that a very large number of | :40:43. | :40:48. | |
new school places are needed, 420,000, nothing she's said gets | :40:49. | :40:53. | |
anywhere near to that. Instead, she proposes a flagship scheme to build | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
the wrong schools in the wrong place, spending millions of vanity | :40:58. | :41:00. | |
projects of grammar schools and free schools, whilst at the same time per | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
pupil funding is falling in real terms. It is time that this colossal | :41:06. | :41:14. | |
waste of money was addressed. It is doing nothing to help the vast | :41:15. | :41:20. | |
majority of children, doing not to help with soaring class sizes. | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
That's what this country wants, not vanity projects from her Government. | :41:26. | :41:29. | |
It is no vanity project to want every child to have a good school | :41:30. | :41:35. | |
place. The majority of free schools - the majority of free schools that | :41:36. | :41:39. | |
have been opened, have been opened in areas where there is a need for | :41:40. | :41:43. | |
school places and the majority have been opened actually in areas of | :41:44. | :41:46. | |
disadvantage, where they are helping the very children we want to see get | :41:47. | :41:50. | |
thep opportunity to get on in life. But I have to say to the right | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
honourable gentleman, this is about a fairer society and on this Budget | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
Day, what we see is we are securing the economy Labour want it weaken | :41:59. | :42:04. | |
it. We are working for a fairer society. Labour oppose every single | :42:05. | :42:10. | |
reform. We're fighting for the best deal for Britain, Labour are | :42:11. | :42:16. | |
fighting among themselves. That's Labour, weak, divided and unfit to | :42:17. | :42:25. | |
govern this great country. Thank you, Mr Speaker. This week it is | :42:26. | :42:34. | |
likely that in my area four people will suffer a stroke. With this in | :42:35. | :42:43. | |
mind and given that the highly successful stroke strategy expires | :42:44. | :42:51. | |
this year, will my honourable friend update the stroke strategy which and | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
put in place schemes that can increase the outcomes. The NHS wants | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
to continue to build on the success he is of the current stroke strategy | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
there. Have been huge improvements. We all recognise huge improvements | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
over the last decade in stroke care and we want to deliver our ambition | :43:10. | :43:12. | |
for truly world-leading care. On the particular treatment she refers to, | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
I understand the NHS has improved the use of mechanical clot retrieval | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
in specific cases. It does rigorously audit the quality of | :43:23. | :43:25. | |
stroke care across the country so we can make sure we are delivering on | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
our commitments and we have some of the fastest improvement in hospital | :43:31. | :43:33. | |
recovery rates for stroke and heart attacks in Europe. On International | :43:34. | :43:42. | |
Women's Day, we wish all campaigners for equality well, including the | :43:43. | :43:48. | |
Waspy campaigners. Mr Speaker, the cross-parliamentary Brexit committee | :43:49. | :43:50. | |
has recommended the UK must guarantee the status of EU nationals | :43:51. | :43:55. | |
living in the UK and act unilaterally, if necessary. The | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
committee then went on to say that the current process for | :44:01. | :44:03. | |
consideration of the permanent residency applications is not fit | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
for purpose and in the absence of any contrary resolution to relieve | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
the anxiety, felt by the #12i789ed 3 million EU citizens resident in the | :44:13. | :44:20. | |
UK, it is -- felt by the 3 million EU citizens, it is untenable as it | :44:21. | :44:23. | |
now stands. Given the positive contribution thae. U nationals make | :44:24. | :44:26. | |
to this country, what concrete plans does the Prime Minister have to deal | :44:27. | :44:30. | |
with this? As the right honourable gentleman knows, we do want to have | :44:31. | :44:33. | |
an early agreement, which will enable us to guarantee the status of | :44:34. | :44:38. | |
EU citizens living in the UK but also, we need to guarantee the | :44:39. | :44:46. | |
status of UK citizens living in the European Union. As regards the | :44:47. | :44:48. | |
process of application, the Home Office are looking at this, as they | :44:49. | :44:52. | |
always do, looking regularly at how they can improve the systems and | :44:53. | :44:53. | |
simplify them. Mr Speaker, since 2010, the Home | :44:54. | :45:03. | |
Office has seen its full-time staff equivalent cut by 10% so at current | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
rates of processing applications for permanent residency, it would take | :45:09. | :45:13. | |
the Home Office more than 50 years. 50 years to deal with 3.2 million | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
European nationals in the UK. This is clearly totally and utterly | :45:19. | :45:23. | |
unacceptable. So will the Prime Minister tell us how quickly she | :45:24. | :45:26. | |
hopes to be able to guarantee all European nationals permanent | :45:27. | :45:33. | |
residence? I would say to the right honourable gentleman, you can't just | :45:34. | :45:36. | |
say and stand up because actually the Home Office is getting more | :45:37. | :45:39. | |
efficient, it's going to be longer for answers to be given to these | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
people. Yes, the Home Office is getting more efficient at how it is | :45:44. | :45:47. | |
dealing with these things. I don't know if he's ever heard about | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
technology but these days, actually, people apply online and they are | :45:52. | :45:57. | |
dealt with online. Following the recent findings of the study on | :45:58. | :46:03. | |
terror convictions in Britain, it is clear there are serious problems | :46:04. | :46:07. | |
with how communities integrate into society, and the danger that this | :46:08. | :46:11. | |
lack of integration, leading to acts of terror. Will the Prime Minister | :46:12. | :46:14. | |
update the house on the government's counter extremism strategy and | :46:15. | :46:19. | |
response to these findings? Again, this is a very serious issue that my | :46:20. | :46:23. | |
honourable friend has raised and the government is taking a comprehensive | :46:24. | :46:26. | |
approach to tackling terrorism, violent extremism at source but also | :46:27. | :46:31. | |
obviously through counter extremism strategy, looking at extremism more | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
widely. We want to defeat not just terrorism and violent extremism but | :46:36. | :46:40. | |
extremism wherever it occurs. We will shortly publish a new | :46:41. | :46:43. | |
counterterrorism strategy and in the coming months, we will respond to | :46:44. | :46:47. | |
Dame Louise Casey's report on integration. But this is backed up | :46:48. | :46:51. | |
by additional investment in the security and intelligence agencies, | :46:52. | :46:55. | |
2.5 billion over five years and I clear the government is doing | :46:56. | :46:58. | |
everything it can to tackle issues around integration, extremism and | :46:59. | :47:05. | |
terrorism. I come from a Westminster Hall debate on behalf of my young | :47:06. | :47:11. | |
constituent, Sam, who is 11, who developed narcolepsy as a result of | :47:12. | :47:18. | |
receiving a vaccine to protect him from swine flu. Sam's mother is in | :47:19. | :47:21. | |
the gallery today. In rare and devastating cases could the lease | :47:22. | :47:32. | |
between pandemrix narcolepsy is proven and yet families face a long | :47:33. | :47:35. | |
legal battle with the government. Will the Prime Minister today | :47:36. | :47:38. | |
promised that no more of these disabled children will be handing | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
all the courts. -- handed through the courts. Will she apologised to | :47:43. | :47:45. | |
the families concerned and also oversee payments to support the | :47:46. | :47:51. | |
children's long-term care needs. Can I first of all congratulate the | :47:52. | :47:54. | |
honourable lady on securing the Westminster Hall debate on this | :47:55. | :47:57. | |
important topic. She referred to at the end of her question to the issue | :47:58. | :48:03. | |
of payments. Of course, I'm sure she realises the vaccine damage payment | :48:04. | :48:06. | |
scheme is not a compensation team but a one-off tax-free lump sum | :48:07. | :48:09. | |
which is paid to ease the burden of those who are disabled as a result | :48:10. | :48:14. | |
of vaccination and it is part of a range of support provided. She has | :48:15. | :48:17. | |
raised a very specific case and can I suggest you learn that obviously, | :48:18. | :48:21. | |
she's had that Westminster Hall debate, we want to ensure the | :48:22. | :48:25. | |
process is open and fair at every stage. The DWP looks at every claim | :48:26. | :48:29. | |
based on its own facts and if she wants to write with the details, I'm | :48:30. | :48:33. | |
sure my honourable friend the Minister for disabled people, health | :48:34. | :48:36. | |
and work will look into the specific case she has raised. Closed | :48:37. | :48:42. | |
question: Mr Michael Fabricant. Question for, sir. While I won't | :48:43. | :48:47. | |
speculate on the statement is my right honourable friend the | :48:48. | :48:50. | |
Chancellor will make very shortly, I can assure my honourable friend that | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
the fundamentals of our economy are strong. Since 2010 from employment | :48:56. | :49:00. | |
in the West Midlands has risen by 215000 and private sector employment | :49:01. | :49:03. | |
alone grew by 80,000 over the last year. We have also seen schools and | :49:04. | :49:07. | |
police budgets being protected and more doctors and nurses in his local | :49:08. | :49:14. | |
hospitals. Michael Fabricant. And of course, we have also witnessed the | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
post Brexit vote of confidence from Nissan, Boeing and Dyson, investing | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
in other parts of the country. Good my right honourable friend speak a | :49:23. | :49:25. | |
bit more about firms like Jaguar Land Rover in the West Midlands? I'm | :49:26. | :49:32. | |
happy to say to my honourable friend that of course in the wider sense, | :49:33. | :49:35. | |
our plans for the Midland engine show we want an economy that works | :49:36. | :49:41. | |
for everyone. We have already confirmed over 330 million in the | :49:42. | :49:45. | |
Croasdale funding, money going to the West Midlands engine investment | :49:46. | :49:48. | |
fund, the Birmingham rail hub but it is important to recognise the | :49:49. | :49:53. | |
investment being made in the UK by companies like Jaguar Land Rover who | :49:54. | :49:56. | |
will be building their new range Rover model in Solihull. That is | :49:57. | :49:59. | |
very good news for the West Midlands. It is also very good news | :50:00. | :50:03. | |
for the British economy and is a sign of the confidence Jaguar Land | :50:04. | :50:09. | |
Rover has in the UK for the future. Gordon Marsden. Mr Speaker, my | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
casebook is now full of the anxiety is the DWP and Home Office are | :50:14. | :50:17. | |
imposing on the honourable constituents, including officials' | :50:18. | :50:21. | |
devs to overturn tribunal decisions protecting benefits and residents, | :50:22. | :50:27. | |
including a family settled here for eight years and a man with a severe | :50:28. | :50:30. | |
brain injury. Can I ask the Prime Minister if she wants people to | :50:31. | :50:33. | |
respect Brexit means Brexit, shouldn't she respect that tribunal | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
's mean tribunal is, and not try to block them with grubby regulations, | :50:38. | :50:45. | |
affecting 164,000 disabled people? If the right honourable gentleman is | :50:46. | :50:48. | |
referring to the decision that has been taken in relation to the courts | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
and the personal independence payments, as I explained in this | :50:54. | :50:56. | |
house last week, as has been explained by the Secretary of State, | :50:57. | :51:02. | |
this is about restoring the system to the state that it was intended to | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
be when Parliament agreed it. It was agreed by the coalition government, | :51:08. | :51:12. | |
agreed by this Parliament, after extensive consultation. Mark | :51:13. | :51:17. | |
Menzies. Mr Speaker, in National apprenticeship week, it is important | :51:18. | :51:20. | |
to recognise this government's commitment to investment and | :51:21. | :51:23. | |
commitment in apprenticeships and skills. Would the Prime Minister | :51:24. | :51:27. | |
look at encouraging a greater commitment to degree apprenticeships | :51:28. | :51:29. | |
as part of the government strategy, as championed in businesses in my | :51:30. | :51:35. | |
constituency like BAE Systems who have been at the forefront of | :51:36. | :51:38. | |
developing these new programmes through its engineering degree | :51:39. | :51:41. | |
apprenticeships scheme? My right honourable friend has raised a very | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
important issue at, as we look to the future, we want to ensure that | :51:46. | :51:48. | |
people in the UK have the skills they need for the economy of the | :51:49. | :51:52. | |
future, degree apprenticeships will be an important part of this and as | :51:53. | :51:56. | |
he refers to specifically, there are companies like BAE Systems which | :51:57. | :51:59. | |
have been right at the forefront of developing those new programmes. I | :52:00. | :52:03. | |
am pleased to say that overall, if we look at apprenticeships, the | :52:04. | :52:06. | |
apprenticeship levy will take the total investment in England, ?2.45 | :52:07. | :52:12. | |
billion, double what was spent in 2010. That means it is more | :52:13. | :52:15. | |
opportunities for young people to gain the skills they need for the | :52:16. | :52:21. | |
future. Dan Jarvis. Tomorrow, a memorial will be unveiled to those | :52:22. | :52:24. | |
men and women who served our country in Afghanistan and Iraq. Does the | :52:25. | :52:29. | |
Prime Minister agree that we should all pay tribute to their service and | :52:30. | :52:35. | |
commemorate their sacrifice? Not just with a memorial but through a | :52:36. | :52:39. | |
commitment to learn from the past and do better in the future. The | :52:40. | :52:46. | |
honourable gentleman raises a very important point. This will be a very | :52:47. | :52:50. | |
significant ceremony when this memorial is unveiled and we should | :52:51. | :52:53. | |
all, I think, across this house, paid tribute to those whom that | :52:54. | :53:00. | |
memorial will be recognising, for the sacrifice they made. Those in | :53:01. | :53:05. | |
our Armed Forces but also all those civilians who worked to deliver aid | :53:06. | :53:09. | |
and health care and education. It is important that we recognise the | :53:10. | :53:12. | |
sacrifices made by our Armed Forces and also by their families. That | :53:13. | :53:18. | |
will be a significant moment tomorrow. We are very clear that we | :53:19. | :53:21. | |
do need to learn the lessons from the past and that is exactly what we | :53:22. | :53:27. | |
will do. Johnny Mercer. Thank you, Mr Speaker, and I was delighted with | :53:28. | :53:31. | |
the Prime Minister's intervention in that it was in January which I still | :53:32. | :53:34. | |
feel has not had the attention it deserves. -- intervention in mental | :53:35. | :53:39. | |
health. In Plymouth, we are completely reconfiguring services | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
because we realise parity of esteem means nothing without parity or | :53:44. | :53:47. | |
provision. Will the Prime Minister, visit Plymouth and see some of the | :53:48. | :53:50. | |
pioneering work we are doing, and perhaps in national mental health | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
week in May where I am hoping Plymouth will take a national lead? | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
I thank my honourable friend because I know this is an issue he has | :53:59. | :54:02. | |
championed and it is very close to his areas of concern. He's done a | :54:03. | :54:12. | |
lot of lot of work on mental is important as he talks about the | :54:13. | :54:14. | |
parity of esteem, which the government has introduced, and more | :54:15. | :54:17. | |
money is going into mental health provision than ever before. I would | :54:18. | :54:19. | |
certainly be delighted to see the work done in Plymouth provided my | :54:20. | :54:23. | |
diary allows it. Julie Cooper. In my constituency of Burnley, primary and | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
secondary schools are severely underfunded. Maintained nursery | :54:29. | :54:31. | |
schools are struggling to survive. Why that at this time, when we | :54:32. | :54:36. | |
cannot adequately fund the schools we already have, if the Prime | :54:37. | :54:38. | |
Minister suggesting spending millions of pounds creating new | :54:39. | :54:42. | |
grammar schools that will help only a minority of children? This is as | :54:43. | :54:47. | |
unfair as the new funding formula and will do nothing to help social | :54:48. | :54:53. | |
mobility. Let's be clearer about what the government has done. There | :54:54. | :54:57. | |
are record amounts of funding going into education in this country. The | :54:58. | :55:05. | |
Conservative led government introduced the pupil premium. The | :55:06. | :55:07. | |
Conservative government has protected the core schools Budget. | :55:08. | :55:11. | |
When it comes to new money that will be going into schools as a result of | :55:12. | :55:14. | |
today's announcements, that money is not about a return to a binary | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
system of grammar schools and secondary moderns. That is not what | :55:19. | :55:22. | |
we are going to do. What we are doing is ensuring we give a | :55:23. | :55:27. | |
diversity of provision so yes, grammar schools but comprehensives, | :55:28. | :55:32. | |
faith schools, universities ghouls, maths schools. What I want is a good | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
school place for every child, and more than that, the right school | :55:37. | :55:39. | |
place for every child. Amanda Milling. On this International | :55:40. | :55:46. | |
Women's Day, it is absolutely fantastic we have the highest female | :55:47. | :55:50. | |
employment rate on record. We have the highest percentage of women on | :55:51. | :55:56. | |
FTSE 100 boards on record. The gender pay gap is at the lowest on | :55:57. | :56:00. | |
record. And we have an amazing female Prime Minister. CHEERS AND | :56:01. | :56:18. | |
JEERS. Never, Bill -- however, I'm sure the Prime Minister will agree | :56:19. | :56:22. | |
there much more to do, in particular supporting women back to work after | :56:23. | :56:25. | |
a career break. Can my right honourable friend outline what more | :56:26. | :56:29. | |
the government are going to do to level the playing field? I thank my | :56:30. | :56:36. | |
honourable friend for her question. When I stood on the steps of Downing | :56:37. | :56:39. | |
Street last July, and talked about a country that works for everyone, I | :56:40. | :56:42. | |
meant that and that is why we are taking a number of measures... | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
Including an International Women's Day, today, and we will be setting | :56:48. | :56:54. | |
up a new fund to help mothers returning to work after a long | :56:55. | :57:02. | |
career break. Returnships are important and open to both men and | :57:03. | :57:05. | |
women but it is important to recognise the majority of those who | :57:06. | :57:08. | |
take time out of a career women who are devoting themselves for | :57:09. | :57:12. | |
motherhood -- demanded for a period and often getting back into | :57:13. | :57:14. | |
employment is difficult and they find it closed off which is why it | :57:15. | :57:17. | |
makes economic sense but it is also right unfair for those women that we | :57:18. | :57:20. | |
provide for the returnships to get them back in the workplace. Everyone | :57:21. | :57:29. | |
agrees that early years education is crucial for the welfare and future | :57:30. | :57:32. | |
of our children. However, nurseries in my constituency tell me that the | :57:33. | :57:37. | |
funding for 30 hours for free childcare is not sufficient and not | :57:38. | :57:40. | |
enough and many of them will be forced to close. What steps will the | :57:41. | :57:45. | |
Prime Minister take to ensure those nurseries don't close? Can I say to | :57:46. | :57:51. | |
the honourable lady, she talks about the 30 hours that is being | :57:52. | :57:55. | |
introduced, if you just look at what we are doing on childcare, we have | :57:56. | :57:58. | |
introduced 15 hours free childcare a week for three and four-year-old is | :57:59. | :58:04. | |
already, 15 hours free childcare for disadvantaged -year-olds and help | :58:05. | :58:08. | |
win up to 70% of childcare costs for people on low incomes and shared | :58:09. | :58:12. | |
parental leave and we will spend a record ?6 billion on childcare | :58:13. | :58:17. | |
support by end of this Parliament. It is this Conservative government, | :58:18. | :58:20. | |
conservatives in government have the record of supporting parents in | :58:21. | :58:24. | |
relation to childcare needs. Michelle Brooke. Does my right | :58:25. | :58:31. | |
honourable friend agree with me that it is indefensible for the police | :58:32. | :58:34. | |
and crime commission in west Yorkshire to be raising council tax | :58:35. | :58:38. | |
precept when he's got ?120 million in reserve and overspent this year's | :58:39. | :58:44. | |
Budget by ?4 million? -- Alec Shelbrooke. Can I say to my | :58:45. | :58:47. | |
honourable friend, the decision about what to do on the police | :58:48. | :58:51. | |
precept on council tax is a matter for the directly elected police and | :58:52. | :58:54. | |
crime commission for West Yorkshire as it is in every area that has a | :58:55. | :58:58. | |
policing crime commission. But I would encourage those commissioners | :58:59. | :59:02. | |
to look at ways of introducing efficiencies into their forces | :59:03. | :59:06. | |
before looking to increase local taxes. I think what we have seen | :59:07. | :59:11. | |
over the last six years is that police forces can find sensible | :59:12. | :59:14. | |
savings and can reduce crime at the same time. Brian Davis. | :59:15. | :59:22. | |
Mr Speaker commune at the Royal College of physicians have found | :59:23. | :59:27. | |
that 40,000 people die prematurely each year from diesel pollution at a | :59:28. | :59:32. | |
cost of ?20 million to the economy, and that YouGov have found 45% of | :59:33. | :59:36. | |
diesel drivers are willing to switch, given the right scrappage or | :59:37. | :59:41. | |
tax incentive schemes. So will she today commit to a fiscal strategy | :59:42. | :59:47. | |
and a new clean air act to put us on a new, cleaner, healthier | :59:48. | :59:52. | |
trajectory, to take global leadership rather than be dragged | :59:53. | :59:56. | |
into the courts to fulfil basic EU air quality standards? As the | :59:57. | :00:01. | |
honourable gentleman will know, we are looking at the measures that we | :00:02. | :00:05. | |
need to introduced to improve air quality. There has been improvements | :00:06. | :00:09. | |
in recent years but we do need to go further and that is what the | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
government is looking at across departments, obviously, with the | :00:13. | :00:15. | |
Department for environment, food and rural affairs actually paying most | :00:16. | :00:21. | |
attention to that because it is in their remit and we will bring | :00:22. | :00:26. | |
proposals on air quality forward in due course. | :00:27. | :00:31. | |
International Women's Day is a chance to reflect on how governments | :00:32. | :00:36. | |
and democracies across the world serve women. Will my right | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
honourable friend confirm that when it comes to female Prime Ministers, | :00:40. | :00:42. | |
it's 2-0 to the Conservatives? Well, I'm grateful to my honourable | :00:43. | :01:01. | |
friend for having pointed that out, which I refrained from doing earlier | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
in response to questions but I think it is very telling that the Labour | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
Party spend a lot of time talking about rights for women and giving | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
support to women and getting women on, whereas it's a Conservative | :01:13. | :01:17. | |
Party that is the party, in this House, that has provided two female | :01:18. | :01:19. | |
Prime Ministers. Thank you, Mr speaker. Will the | :01:20. | :01:29. | |
Prime Minister give an undertaking that any new Scotland Act will only | :01:30. | :01:33. | |
be drafted after full consultation with the people of Scotland, and | :01:34. | :01:36. | |
with the consent of the Scottish Parliament? I would say to the | :01:37. | :01:47. | |
honourable lady, I'm not sure if she's referring to discusses | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
currently taking place about the powers that might be available to | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
the devolved administrations available to the devolved | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
administrations when we discuss to leave the EU but we knows full well | :02:01. | :02:11. | |
that we all... Crowd Comms a business in my | :02:12. | :02:17. | |
constituency operates out of its small market down and has offices in | :02:18. | :02:26. | |
Seattle and Sydney. And it has high-quality jobs for people | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
available themselves of fast broadband and telephone | :02:32. | :02:34. | |
communication. This is the recipe for growing the rural economy. Will | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
my right honourable friend ensure it undertake her Government does all | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
that it can to I will can the blackspots in rural areas? I can | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
assure my honourable friend that we want to ensure we are doing that. My | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
right honourable friend the Secretary of State for Culture, | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
media and sport is looking at our digital strategy and ensuring | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
broadband is available in rural areas and indeed at good speeds in | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
other areas which might be less rural than my honourable friend's | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
conzitcy. -- constituency. THE SPEAKER: | :03:06. | :03:12. | |
Finally, Mr Tim Farron. Thank you Mr Speaker. Order, order. I don't know | :03:13. | :03:19. | |
why honourable members are cheering because it is finally or the | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
popularity of the honourable gentleman. You are very | :03:24. | :03:25. | |
uncharacterically kind. Mr Speaker uncharacterically kind. Mr Speaker | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
on International Women's Day we stand with women and girls across | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
the world and note with resolve that we must take not for granted the | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
progress we have made towards equality over the last few decades. | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
Mr Speaker, yesterday we heard that hundreds of families of soldiers who | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
died in Iraq and Afghanistan have been denied seats at tomorrow's | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
unveiling of the memorial to our fallen troops. Inviting a relative | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
of each of those killed in Iraq and Afghanistan would have taken up | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
fewer than one-third of the 2,500 seats at that event. Will she now | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
apologise to those families for what I assume is a careless oversight and | :04:04. | :04:10. | |
rectify that mistake immediately to the so bereaved families can come | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
and pay their respects to their fallen loved ones? Can I reassure | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
the honourable gentleman to assure him that charitable groups | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
representing the bereaved were asked to put forward names I have a | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
tendees and we look forward to welcoming so we can acknowledge the | :04:26. | :04:28. | |
sacrifice their loved ones made. Over half of those attending | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
tomorrow are current or members of Armed Forces. No-one from the | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
bereaved community has been turned away and everyone who has applied | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
has been successful. I am' reassured if there are any bereaved families | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
who wish to attend the Ministry of Defence will make every effort to | :04:47. | :04:48. | |
ensure that they can do so. Speak speak order. | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
Prime Minister's Questions comes to a close, and we now | :04:54. | :04:55. | |
have a change in the Speaker's Chair. | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
We are now getting towards the Budget statement. | :05:02. | :05:07. | |
By tradition, the principal Deputy Speaker, currently | :05:08. | :05:09. | |
the Labour MP Lindsay Hoyle, also known as the Chairman of Ways | :05:10. | :05:11. | |
and Means, takes the chair for the Budget statement. | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
Proposals for raising taxation used to originate | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
So we are getting ready for the budget. | :05:21. | :05:32. | |
Thank you Mr Deputy Speaker. I report today on an economy that has | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
continued to confound the commentators with robust growth. A | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
labour market delivering record employment and a deficit down by | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
over two-thirds. As we start our negotiations to exit the European | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
Union, this Budget takes forward our plans to prepare Britain for a | :05:52. | :05:57. | |
brighter future. It provides a strong and stable platform for those | :05:58. | :06:00. | |
negotiations. It extends opportunity to all our young people. It delivers | :06:01. | :06:06. | |
further investment in our public services, and it continues the task | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
of getting Britain back to living within its means. We are building | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
the foundations of a stronger, fairer, more global Britain. Mr | :06:15. | :06:21. | |
Deputy Speaker, as the House knows, this will be the last Spring Budget. | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
The Treasury has helpfully reminded me that I am not the first | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
Chancellor to announce the last Spring Budget. 24 years ago, Norman | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
Lamont also presented what was billed then as the last Spring | :06:36. | :06:40. | |
Budget. He reported on an economy that was growing faster than any | :06:41. | :06:47. | |
other in the G7 and he continued to commit to restraint in public | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
spending. The then Prime Minister described it as the right Budget at | :06:51. | :06:53. | |
the right time, from the right Chancellor. What they failed to | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
remind me, Mr Deputy Speaker, was that ten weeks later he was sacked. | :07:00. | :07:08. | |
So, wish me luck today. Mr Deputy Speaker, last year the British | :07:09. | :07:11. | |
States, faster than Japan, faster States, faster than Japan, faster | :07:12. | :07:16. | |
than France. Indeed amongst the major advanced economies, Britain's | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
economic growth n 2016 was second only to Germany. Employment is at a | :07:21. | :07:27. | |
record high. Unemployment is at an 11-year low, with over 2.7 million | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
more people enjoying the security and dignity of work than in 2010. A | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
very far cry from the 3 million unemployed predicted by the party | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
opposite. And I'm pleased to report, Mr Deputy | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
Speaker, on International Women's Day, that there is now a higher | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
proportion of women in the workforce than ever before. I'm even more | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
pleased to report, as my right honourable friend, the Prime | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
Minister has remarked, since February 23rd, there is a higher | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
proportion of women in work in the parliamentary Conservative Party. | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
But Mr Deputy Speaker, there is no room for complacency and you will | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
not find any on these benches. As we prepare for our future outside the | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
EU, we cannot rest on our past achievements. We must focus, | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
relentlessly, on keeping Britain at the cutting edge of the global | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
economy. The deficit is down, but debt is still too high. Employment | :08:25. | :08:30. | |
is up, but productivity remains stubbornly low. Too many of our | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
young people are leaving formal education without the skills they | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
need for today's labour market. And too many families are still feeling | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
the squeeze, almost a decade after the crash. So, our job is not done. | :08:44. | :08:50. | |
And our task today is to take the next steps in preparing Britain for | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
a global future - to quip our young people with the skills they need, to | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
support our public services and to help ordinary working families, as | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
we build an economy that works for everyone. | :09:04. | :09:11. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, I thank the Office for Budget Responsibility for | :09:12. | :09:14. | |
their report received today. Let me take this opportunity to thank my | :09:15. | :09:18. | |
right honourable friend the Chief Secretary and my ministerial team | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
who really are the unsung heroes of the Budget, doing much of the heavy | :09:24. | :09:29. | |
lifting over the last few weeks and of course my excellent PPS, my right | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
honourable friend. I turn now, Mr Deputy Speaker, to | :09:35. | :09:41. | |
the OBR forecast. This is the spread sheet bit but bear with me, because | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
I have a reputation to defend. The OBR forecast the level of GDP for | :09:47. | :09:53. | |
20221 to be broadly the same as at Autumn Statement however the path we | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
get there has changed. Reflecting the recent strength in the economy, | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
the OBR has upgraded its forecast for growth this year, next year, | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
from 1.4% to 2%. And Mr Deputy Speaker, I don't see too many people | :10:08. | :10:14. | |
on the Opposition front bench doing this. In 2018-19, growth is forecast | :10:15. | :10:29. | |
to slow to 1.6%, before picking up to approximate 1.7%, then 1.9%, | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
returning to 2% in 2021. Resilience in the economy is | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
reflected in a strong labour market. Since 2010, the employment rate has | :10:39. | :10:45. | |
risen from 70.2, to 74.6, with positive news for all parts of the | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
United Kingdom. Unemployment has fallen fastest in Yorkshire and the | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
Humber and Wales. Wages have grown fastest in Northern Ireland. And | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
productivity has grown fastest in Scotland and in the north-east. | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
And this positive trend is set to continue over the forecast period. | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
The number of people in employment is set to grow in every year, with a | :11:10. | :11:15. | |
further two-thirds of a million people in work by 2021. The OBR | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
forecast inflation at 2.4% this year, then 2.3% next year and 2% in | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
2019. And most importantly, Mr Deputy | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
Speaker, despite higher than target inflation, real wages continue to | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
rise in every year of the forecast. Mr Deputy Speaker, while the | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
economic forecasts are broadly unchanged since the autumn, the OBR | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
has substantially revised down its short-term forecast of public sector | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
net borrowing. The OBR attributes this change to a number of one-off | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
factors that they do not expect to lead to a structural improvement | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
over the forecast period. Combining these factors with the higher | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
short-term forecasts for growth and taking into account the measures | :12:04. | :12:09. | |
that I shall announce today, the OBR now forecasts borrowing in 2016-17 | :12:10. | :12:17. | |
to be ?16.4 billion lower than forecast in the autumn, at ?51.7 | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
billion. Then, ?58.3 billion in 2017-18, | :12:23. | :12:31. | |
?40.8 billion in 18-19. ?21.4 billion, ?20.6 billion and finally | :12:32. | :12:40. | |
?16... In 21-22. All lower than forecast at Autumn Statement. | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
Over all, public sector net borrowing, as a percentage of GDP is | :12:44. | :12:50. | |
predicted to fall from 3.8% last year to 2.6% this year. And | :12:51. | :12:53. | |
forethose who care about such things, it means we are forecast to | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
meet our 3% EU be stability and growth pact target this year for the | :13:00. | :13:06. | |
first time in almost a decade. But I won't hold my breath, Mr Deputy | :13:07. | :13:18. | |
Speaker, for my congratulatory letter from Jean-Claude junker. | :13:19. | :13:20. | |
Borrowing is then forecast to be 2.9% in 17-19 and then to fall. | :13:21. | :13:36. | |
21-22 will be the lowest level in two decades. The OBR expect | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
cyclically adjusted public sector net borrowing to be 6.9% in 2020-21. | :13:43. | :13:51. | |
Giving us a #23rs target in the new fiscal rules, maintaining our fiscal | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
resilience over the period. The OBR's forecast of lower near-term | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
borrowing, coupled with recent strength in the economy, be means | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
lower debt across the period. The OBR now forecast that is debt will | :14:04. | :14:10. | |
rise to 86.6% this year before peaking at 88.8% next year. 1.4% | :14:11. | :14:16. | |
points lower than forecast in the autumn. It then falls in 2018-19, | :14:17. | :14:25. | |
for the first time since 2001-2, to 88.5%, and then continues to decline | :14:26. | :14:37. | |
to 86.9% in 1920, 83% in 20-21 and 79.8% in 21-22. Mr Deputy Speaker, | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
at the Autumn Statement, I set out our plan to return the politic | :14:44. | :14:45. | |
finances to balance in the next Parliament. A plan that is now | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
underpinned by our new fiscal rules. That plan strikes the right balance | :14:49. | :14:58. | |
between reducing the deficit, preserving fiscal flexibility and | :14:59. | :15:01. | |
investing in Britain's future. Some have argued that lower borrowing | :15:02. | :15:08. | |
this year makes a case for more unfunded spending in the future. I | :15:09. | :15:14. | |
disagree. Britain has a debt of nearly ?1.7 trillion. Almost ?62,000 | :15:15. | :15:22. | |
for every household in the country. Each year, we are spending ?50 | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
billion on debt interest, more than we spend on defence and policing | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
combined. And borrowing, over the forecast period, is still set to be | :15:35. | :15:40. | |
?100 billion higher than predicted at Budget 2016. So the only | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
responsible course of action, Mr Deputy Speaker, is to continue with | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
our plan, undeterred by any short-term fluctuations and | :15:50. | :15:57. | |
undistracted... Undistracted by the reckless policies advance by the | :15:58. | :16:06. | |
opposition. Because, Mr Deputy Speaker, we on this side will not | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
saddle our children with ever increasing debt. | :16:11. | :16:18. | |
SHOUTING Mr Deputy Speaker, I think the honourable members opposite may | :16:19. | :16:29. | |
need to have a word with their own front bench, which proposes | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
borrowing another ?500 billion to saddle our children and burden their | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
futures. So, Mr Deputy Speaker, the Budget I | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
set out today will again fund all additional spending decisions over | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
the forecast period. Mr Deputy Speaker, a strong economy needs a | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
fair, stable and competitive tax system, creating the growth that | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
will underpin our future prosperity. My ambition is for the UK to be the | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
best place in the world to start and grow a business. Under the last | :17:02. | :17:08. | |
Labour government, corporation tax 28%. By the way, they don't call it | :17:09. | :17:11. | |
the last Labour government for nothing! | :17:12. | :17:20. | |
From... From April this year, from April this year, it will fall to | :17:21. | :17:31. | |
19%, the lowest rate in the G20. In 2020, it will fall again to 17%, | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
sending the clearest possible signal that Britain is open for business. | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, I am listening to the voice of business. As I | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
committed at the Autumn Statement, we have reviewed with business hour | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
aren't the tax credit regime, the one place where I am not going to | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
hear the voice of business is from the benches opposite! -- our R tax | :17:55. | :18:06. | |
credit regime. We have done so, and we have concluded that it is | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
globally competitive. But to make the UK even more attractive for R, | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
we have accepted industry calls for a reduction in administrative | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
burdens around the scheme, and we will shortly bring forward measures | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
to deliver them. In a digital age, it is right that we develop a | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
digital tax system, but in response to concerns about the timetable | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
expressed by business organisations, and by several of my right | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
honourable friends, including the chairman of the Treasury Select | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
Committee, I have decided that for businesses with turnover below the | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
VAT registration threshold, I will delay by one year the introduction | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
of quarterly reporting, at a cost to the Exchequer of ?280 million. And I | :18:51. | :18:57. | |
have heard the cause by North Sea oil and gas producers and the | :18:58. | :18:59. | |
Scottish Government to provide further support for the transfer of | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
late life assets. As UK oil and gas production declines, it is | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
absolutely essential that we maximise exploitation of remaining | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
reserves, and so we will produce a formal discussion paper on the | :19:14. | :19:19. | |
options in due course. Mr Deputy Speaker, there is one further area | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
in which I can introduce action to back British businesses. My right | :19:24. | :19:25. | |
honourable friends community secretary and I have listened to the | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
concerns raised by colleagues in this House and by businesses about | :19:30. | :19:35. | |
the effect of the 2017 business rates revaluation. Business rates | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
raises ?25 billion a year, all of which, by 2020, will be going to | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
fund local government, so we cannot abolish them, as some have | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
suggested. But it is certainly true, in the medium term, that we have to | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
find a better way of taxing the digital part of the economy, the | :19:54. | :19:56. | |
parts that does not use bricks and mortar. But in the meantime, there | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
is scope to reform the revaluation process, making it smoother and more | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
frequent to avoid the dramatic increases that the present system | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
can do live. We will set out our preferred approach in due course, | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
and we will consult on it before the next revaluation is due. The | :20:16. | :20:23. | |
revaluation itself, Mr Deputy Speaker, is by law this Bill | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
neutral, and ahead of this revaluation, the Government | :20:29. | :20:31. | |
committed to a package of cuts to business rates now with nearly ?9 | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
billion. -- this can be neutral. It raises the threshold so that six and | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
a thousand small businesses are taken out of paying rates | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
altogether. But the revaluation has undoubtedly raised some hard cases, | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
especially for those businesses coming out of small business rates | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
relief. So today, as I promised many of my right honourable friends I | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
would, I address those concerns with three measures which applied to the | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
national business rate system for England. First, any business coming | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
out of small business rate relief will benefit from an additional cap. | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
No business losing small business rate relief will see their bill | :21:15. | :21:17. | |
increase next year by more than ?50 a month. And the subsequent | :21:18. | :21:22. | |
increases will be capped at either the transitional relief cap or ?50 a | :21:23. | :21:29. | |
month, whichever is higher. Second, recognising the valuable role that | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
local pubs play in our communities, I will provide a ?1000 discount on | :21:36. | :21:41. | |
business rates bills in 2017 for all pubs with a rateable value of less | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
than ?100,000. That is 90% of all pubs in England. And, third, I will, | :21:47. | :21:53. | |
on top of these two measures, I will provide local authorities with a | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
?300 million fund to deliver discretionary relief to target | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
individual hard cases in their local areas. This fund will be allocated | :22:03. | :22:09. | |
to local authorities by a formula, and my right honourable friend the | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
Communities Secretary will set out details in due course. Taken... | :22:14. | :22:23. | |
Taken together, Mr Deputy Speaker, this is a further ?435 million cut | :22:24. | :22:31. | |
in business rates, targeted at those small businesses facing the biggest | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
increases, protecting our pubs, and giving local authorities the | :22:37. | :22:39. | |
resource to respond flexibly to local circumstances. Mr Deputy | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
Speaker, just as a strong economy requires a tax system that is | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
competitive, a strong society requires one that is fair. Because I | :22:49. | :22:57. | |
have committed to funding my spending decisions, rather than | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
borrowing more, I make no podgy for raising additional revenues and for | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
doing so in ways which enhance the fairness of the system. -- I make no | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
apology. First and foremost, that means collecting the taxes that are | :23:11. | :23:16. | |
due. Since 2010, we have secured ?140 billion by taking robust action | :23:17. | :23:22. | |
to tackle avoidance, evasion and noncompliance. This has helped the | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
UK attain one of the lowest tax gaps in the world, but in this Budget we | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
set out further actions to stop businesses from converting capital | :23:33. | :23:35. | |
losses into trading losses, to tackle abuse of foreign pension | :23:36. | :23:41. | |
schemes, to introduce UK VAT on roaming telecoms outside the EU in | :23:42. | :23:44. | |
line with international standard practice, and from July we will | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
introduce a new financial penalty for professionals who enable a tax | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
avoidance arrangement that is later defeated by HMRC. Taken together, | :23:55. | :24:01. | |
these measures will raise ?820 million over the forecast period. | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
But, Mr Deputy Speaker, as well as collecting taxes that are due, a | :24:07. | :24:11. | |
fair system ensures that those with the broadest shoulders bear the | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
heaviest burden. As a result of the changes we have made since 2010, the | :24:17. | :24:24. | |
top 1% of income taxpayers now pay 27% of all income tax, a higher | :24:25. | :24:30. | |
proportion than in any year under the last Labour government. But a | :24:31. | :24:36. | |
fair system, a fair system will also ensure fairness between individuals, | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
so that people doing similar work for some low wages, and enjoying | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
similar state benefits, pay similar levels of tax. As our economy | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
responds to the challenges of globalisation, shifting demographics | :24:52. | :24:54. | |
and the emergence of new technologies, we've seen a dramatic | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
increase in the number of people working as self-employed or through | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
their own companies, indeed many of our most highly paid professionals | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
work through limited liability partnerships and are treated as | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
seldom ploy. There are many good reasons for choosing to be | :25:12. | :25:14. | |
self-employed, or working through a company. Indeed, Mr Deputy Speaker, | :25:15. | :25:20. | |
I have done both in my time. And I will always encourage and support | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
the entrepreneurs and the innovators who are the lifeblood of our | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
economy, people should have choices about how they work, but the choice | :25:28. | :25:35. | |
should not be judged primarily by differences in tax treatment. My | :25:36. | :25:37. | |
right honourable friend the Prime Minister has asked Matthew Taylor, | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
the chief executive of the RSA, to consider the wider implications of | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
different employment practices and I look forward to his final report in | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
the summer, and I am grateful to him for sharing his preliminary | :25:52. | :25:53. | |
thoughts. He is clear that differences in tax treatment are a | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
key driver behind the trends we are observing, a conclusion which is | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
shared by the IFS and the Resolution Foundation. An employee earning | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
?32,000 will incur between him and his employer ?6,170 of national | :26:08. | :26:16. | |
insurance contributions. A self-employed person earning the | :26:17. | :26:21. | |
equivalent amount will pay just ?2300, significantly less than half | :26:22. | :26:30. | |
as much. Historically, the differences in NICs reflected a | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
difference in state pension entitlement and contributory welfare | :26:36. | :26:38. | |
benefits, but with the introduction of the new state pension last year, | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
these differences have been very substantially reduced. Self-employed | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
workers now build up the same entitlement to a state pension as | :26:48. | :26:52. | |
employees, a big pension boost for the self employed. The most | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
significant remaining area of difference is in relation to | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
parental benefits, and I can announce today that we will consult | :27:01. | :27:03. | |
in the summer on options to address the disparities in this area, as the | :27:04. | :27:10. | |
FSB and others have proposed. Mr Deputy Speaker, the difference in | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
national insurance contributions is no longer justified by the | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
difference in benefit entitlements. Such dramatically different | :27:20. | :27:21. | |
treatment of two people earning essentially the same undermines the | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
fairness of our tax system. Employed and self-employed alike, use our | :27:27. | :27:33. | |
public services in the same way, but they are not paying for them in the | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
same way. The lower national insurance paid by the self-employed | :27:38. | :27:43. | |
is forecast to cost our public finance billions this year alone. | :27:44. | :27:47. | |
This is not fair to the 85% of workers who are employees. The | :27:48. | :27:54. | |
abolition of class two NICs for self employed people, announced by my | :27:55. | :27:57. | |
right honourable friend the member for Tatton in 2016, and due to take | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
effect in 2018, would further increase the gap between employment | :28:03. | :28:07. | |
and self-employment. To be able to support our public services in this | :28:08. | :28:13. | |
Budget, and to improve the fairness of the system, I will act to reduce | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
the gap to better reflect the current differences in state | :28:18. | :28:21. | |
benefits. I have considered, Mr Deputy Speaker, the possibility of | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
simply reversing the decision to abolish class two contributions, but | :28:26. | :28:31. | |
the class two NIC is aggressive and outdated. It is absolutely right | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
that it should go, so instead, from April 2018, when it is abolished, | :28:37. | :28:41. | |
the main rate of class four NICs for the self-employed will increase by | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
1% up to 10%, with a further 1% increase in April 2019. The | :28:47. | :28:53. | |
combination of the abolition of class two and the class four | :28:54. | :28:55. | |
increases I have announced today raises a net ?145 million a year for | :28:56. | :29:07. | |
our public services by 2021-22, an average of around 60p per week per | :29:08. | :29:12. | |
self-employed person in this country. And since class two | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
contributions are payable at a flat rate, while class four is chargeable | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
as a proportion of profits, all self-employed people earning less | :29:23. | :29:28. | |
than ?16,250 will still see a reduction in the total NICs bill. | :29:29. | :29:35. | |
This change reduces the unfairness in the NICs system and reflect more | :29:36. | :29:39. | |
accurately the current differences in benefits available from the | :29:40. | :29:44. | |
state. Mr Deputy Speaker, alongside the gap between employees and the | :29:45. | :29:47. | |
self-employed, there is a parallel self-employed, there is a parallel | :29:48. | :29:50. | |
unfairness in the treatment of those working through their own companies. | :29:51. | :29:58. | |
Britain has the most competitive corporate tax regime in the #2k3w7. | :29:59. | :30:10. | |
We must ensure that our corporate tax regime does not encourage people | :30:11. | :30:15. | |
across the country to form companies to reduce tax liabilities, pushing | :30:16. | :30:18. | |
the burden of financing our public services on to others. HRMC | :30:19. | :30:24. | |
estimates that existing corporations cost the public finances over ?6 | :30:25. | :30:29. | |
billion a year and the OBR forecasts that at the current rate of increase | :30:30. | :30:34. | |
an additional annual cost to the exchequer will occur from those | :30:35. | :30:43. | |
chosing to incorporate of ?3.5 billion a year by 2021-22. The gap | :30:44. | :30:50. | |
in total tax and NICs between an employed worker and one who has set | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
greater than the self-employed and greater than the self-employed and | :30:55. | :30:57. | |
there are perfectly legal ways in which that gap can be made bigger | :30:58. | :31:01. | |
still. It is not fair and not affordable. Fairness demands this | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
discrepancy and treatment has addressed, just as I have addressed | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
the discrepancy with the self-employed. The dividend | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
allowance has increased the tax advantage of incorporation. It | :31:13. | :31:18. | |
allows each director shareholder to take ?5,000 of dividends out of | :31:19. | :31:21. | |
their company, tax-free, over an above the personal allowance. It is | :31:22. | :31:27. | |
also an extremely generous tax break for investors with substantial share | :31:28. | :31:31. | |
portfolios. I have decides, therefore, to address the unfairness | :31:32. | :31:35. | |
around director shareholders' tax advantage and at the same time, | :31:36. | :31:39. | |
raise some much-needed revenue to fund the measures I shall announce | :31:40. | :31:45. | |
today, by reducing the tax-free dividend allowance from ?5,000, to | :31:46. | :31:50. | |
?2,000, with effect from April 2018. About half the people affected by | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
this measure are director shareholders of private companies. | :31:56. | :32:01. | |
The rest are investors in shares with holdings worth typically, over | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
?50,000, outside ISAs and of course everyone will benefit from the | :32:07. | :32:13. | |
generous ?4,760 increase in the annual ISA allowance to ?20,000 and | :32:14. | :32:19. | |
a further increase in the personal allowance to ?11,500 from April. | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, I now turn to duties and levies and unusually for | :32:27. | :32:29. | |
a Chancellor I'm delighted to announce a reduction in the expected | :32:30. | :32:34. | |
yield of a tax. The soft drinks levy. I can confirm today the final | :32:35. | :32:41. | |
rates of 18 and 24p per litre for the main and higher bands | :32:42. | :32:44. | |
respectively but producers are already reformulating sugar out of | :32:45. | :32:48. | |
their drinks which means a lower revenue forecast for this tax. This | :32:49. | :32:54. | |
is good news for our children. And in further good news for them today, | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
I can confirm that we will nobbled fund DFE with the full ?1 billion we | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
originally expected from the levy this Parliament to invest in school | :33:05. | :33:10. | |
ports and healthy living programmes. I am freezing, for another year the | :33:11. | :33:16. | |
VED rates for hauliers and the HGV road user levy. I'm introducing a | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
new minimum excise duty on cigarettes based on a pack price of | :33:22. | :33:26. | |
?7.35 and I can also confirm I will make no changes to previously | :33:27. | :33:29. | |
planned upratings of duties on alcohol and tobacco. | :33:30. | :33:33. | |
The tax measures I have announced enhance the sustainability of our | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
public services into the future and by improving the fairness of the | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
system, helps us to keep tax rates low. | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, economic policy does not exist in a vacuum and | :33:47. | :33:51. | |
economic growth is a means, not an end in itself. The objective of our | :33:52. | :33:57. | |
economic policy is to support ordinary working families and to | :33:58. | :34:00. | |
build an economy that works for them. And on this side of the House, | :34:01. | :34:10. | |
we know that we can only achieve rising living standards and deliver | :34:11. | :34:13. | |
vote. In vital public services, if if we have a strong economy and | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
sustainable public finances. It is a simple proposition, Mr Deputy | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
Speaker, yet one which the Opposition front bench seems to find | :34:22. | :34:25. | |
strangely difficult to understand. We start from a strong base. Real | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
wages have grown for 27 straight months. The wages of the lowest paid | :34:30. | :34:36. | |
grew faster last year than in any of the previous 20 years. And the | :34:37. | :34:40. | |
poorest households have seen their labour incomes rise more since 20 | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
#10e in the UK, than in any other country in the G7. | :34:46. | :34:50. | |
-- since 2010. Last year we delivered a pay rise to over a | :34:51. | :34:54. | |
million of the lowest paid through the national living wage and next | :34:55. | :34:57. | |
month we take more steps to support worker families with the cost of | :34:58. | :35:02. | |
living. The national living wage will rise again to ?7.50 in April, | :35:03. | :35:09. | |
over ?500 more for full-time worker than this year and ?1,400 more than | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
when the national living wage was introduced. The personal allowance | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
will rise for the 7th year in a row to ?11,500 and the higher rate | :35:20. | :35:24. | |
threshold to ?45,000. 29 million people will be better off with a | :35:25. | :35:29. | |
typical basic rate taxpayer paying ?1,000 less than in 2010. | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
And we will meet our manifesto commitment to increasing the | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
thresholds to ?12,500 and ?50,000 thresholds to ?12,500 and ?50,000 | :35:40. | :35:41. | |
respectively by the end of this Parliament. | :35:42. | :35:45. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, I can also confirm today that the new NS I | :35:46. | :35:51. | |
bond which I announced at Autumn Statement will be available from | :35:52. | :35:57. | |
April and will pay 2.2% on deposits up to ?3,000, a welcome break for | :35:58. | :36:01. | |
hard-pressed savers and the Universal Credit taper rate will be | :36:02. | :36:08. | |
reduced in April from 56% to 63%, cutting tax for 3 million families | :36:09. | :36:13. | |
on low income. Next month, we will see the | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
introduction of our flagship tax-free childcare policy. That will | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
allow working families across the UK to receive up to ?2,000 a year, | :36:24. | :36:28. | |
towards the cost of childcare, for each child under 12. The scheme will | :36:29. | :36:32. | |
be rolled out to all eligible parents by the end of the year. And | :36:33. | :36:37. | |
from September, in addition, working parents with three and | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
four-year-olds will get their free childcare entitlement doubled to 30 | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
hours a week. That, Mr Deputy Speaker, is worth around ?5,000 a | :36:47. | :36:51. | |
year to a young family with a three-year-old, and both parents | :36:52. | :36:54. | |
working. By the end of this Parliament, this Government will be | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
spending on childcare ?6 billion a year. | :37:00. | :37:04. | |
These childcare measures represent a further huge step forward in support | :37:05. | :37:12. | |
for ordinary working families and for women in the work place. And I | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
am delighted to use the occasion of International Women's Day to | :37:17. | :37:17. | |
announce three additional measures. Well not quite announce them, Mr | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
Deputy Speaker, because my right honourable friend the Prime Minister | :37:22. | :37:31. | |
has already announced two of them. It is National Women's Day. It says | :37:32. | :37:37. | |
here - "I will commit a further ?20 million of Government funding to | :37:38. | :37:40. | |
support the campaign against violence against women and girls." | :37:41. | :37:44. | |
Which does, as my right honourable friend said earlier, take the | :37:45. | :37:47. | |
Government's commitment to this campaign to over ?100 million in | :37:48. | :37:53. | |
this Parliament. That is on top of the tampon tax which today delivers | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
another ?12 million in support of women's charities across the United | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
Kingdom. The Prime Minister earlier also | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
mentioned that the Government will commit fought ?5 million to | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
promoting returnships to the public and private sector, helping people | :38:11. | :38:13. | |
back into employment after a career break. | :38:14. | :38:20. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, as next year is the centenary of the 1918 | :38:21. | :38:23. | |
Representation of the People Act, the decisive step in the political | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
emans pays of women in this country, I will commit a further ?5 million | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
to are projects to celebrate this centenary and to educate young | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
people about its significance. Mr Deputy Speaker, as well as knowing | :38:39. | :38:41. | |
the Government is on their side, people want to know that they are | :38:42. | :38:44. | |
getting a good deal from private markets too. | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
A well-functioning market economy is the best way to deliver prosperity | :38:50. | :38:56. | |
and security to working families and the litany of failed attempts of | :38:57. | :38:59. | |
state control of industry by labour, leaves no-one in any doubt about | :39:00. | :39:04. | |
that, except, apparently the right honourable gentleman opposite, who | :39:05. | :39:11. | |
is now so far down a black hole that even Stephen Hawking has disowned | :39:12. | :39:12. | |
him. This Government, Mr Deputy Speaker, | :39:13. | :39:25. | |
recognises that sometimes markets, particularly in fast-developing | :39:26. | :39:28. | |
areas of the economy, can fail people. Sometimes the market does | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
not deliver the outcome the textbooks suggests it should and | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
when that happens, this Government will not hesitate to intervene. We | :39:38. | :39:41. | |
will shortly bring forward a green paper on protecting the interests of | :39:42. | :39:46. | |
consumers. But, ahead of the green paper, we will take the first steps | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
to protect consumers from unexpected fees or unfair clause, to simplifies | :39:52. | :39:57. | |
T . Krs and to give consumer bodies great enforcement powers. -- | :39:58. | :40:03. | |
simplify Ts Cs. Together this will boost incomes, help family budgets | :40:04. | :40:08. | |
stretch further, support parents back into Bosch and tackle some of | :40:09. | :40:15. | |
the frustrations that sometimes make it feel that the dice are load he | :40:16. | :40:19. | |
had against ordinary people going about their ordinary lives. This | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
House knows that the only sensible way to raising living standards is | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
to improve the productivity growth. Simply put - higher productivity | :40:29. | :40:33. | |
means higher pay. The stats are well-known with 35% behind Germany, | :40:34. | :40:38. | |
18% behind the G7 average average and the gap is not closing. Mr | :40:39. | :40:42. | |
Deputy Speaker, investment in training and investment in | :40:43. | :40:44. | |
infrastructure will start to close this gap. And this Government places | :40:45. | :40:51. | |
addressing the UK's productivity challenge at the very heart of its | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
economic plan. Because the cornerstone of an economy that works | :40:56. | :41:00. | |
for everyone must be rising living standards for ordinary working | :41:01. | :41:10. | |
people. . The key elements of our plan is the additional investment | :41:11. | :41:13. | |
from infrastructure that I announced at the Autumn Statement. Today to | :41:14. | :41:17. | |
enhance the UK's position as a world leader in science and innovation I'm | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
allocating ?300 million of that fund to support the brightest and best | :41:23. | :41:25. | |
research talent, including support for 1,000 new PhD places and | :41:26. | :41:29. | |
fellowships, focussed on stem subjects. ?270 million to keep the | :41:30. | :41:37. | |
UK at the forefront of disruptive technologies like biotech, robotic | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
systems and driverless vehicles, technology I believe that the party | :41:42. | :41:43. | |
opposite knows something about. ?16 million for a new 5G mobile | :41:44. | :42:03. | |
technology hub and ?200 million for local projects to leverage private | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
sector investment in full fibre broadband networks. On transport, | :42:08. | :42:11. | |
I'm today announcing ?90 million for the North and ?23 million for the | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
Midlands from a ?220 million fund that addresses pinchpoints on the | :42:18. | :42:24. | |
national road network and I'm launching a ?690 million competition | :42:25. | :42:28. | |
for local authorities across England to tackle urban congestion and get | :42:29. | :42:32. | |
local transport networks moving again. My right honourable friend | :42:33. | :42:35. | |
the Transport Secretary will announce details shortly. | :42:36. | :42:40. | |
And because we believe local areas understand local productivity | :42:41. | :42:42. | |
barriers better than central government, we make further progress | :42:43. | :42:45. | |
with our plans to bolster the regions. | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
In May, powerful mayors will be elected in six of our great cities. | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
Across Britain, local areas will take control of their own economic | :42:55. | :42:58. | |
destiny and we will support them to do so. I can inform the House that I | :42:59. | :43:04. | |
have reached a deal with the Mayor of London on further devolution. I | :43:05. | :43:09. | |
will follow the launch of the foreign powerhouse strategy at | :43:10. | :43:12. | |
Autumn Statement by publishing tomorrow our Midlands energy are | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
strategy, addressing productivity barriers across the Midlands. | :43:17. | :43:25. | |
-- Midlands engine strategy. And for the desolved administrations, our | :43:26. | :43:27. | |
announcements today deliver additional funding of ?350 million | :43:28. | :43:32. | |
for the Scottish Government, ?200 million... # | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
CHEERS Inaudible shouts | :43:38. | :44:03. | |
Let's just move on. We are doing very W let's not spoil a good day. | :44:04. | :44:06. | |
#k078 on, Chancellor of the Exchequer. | :44:07. | :44:13. | |
-- come on. Wait for it. ?200 million for the Welsh Government. | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
And almost ?120 million for an incoming Northern Ireland executive. | :44:18. | :44:23. | |
Demonstrating, Mr Deputy Speaker, once again, that we are stronger | :44:24. | :44:27. | |
together in this great United Kingdom. | :44:28. | :44:37. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, Mr Deputy Speaker, perhaps the single most | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
important thing government can do to support ordinary working families is | :44:43. | :44:46. | |
to invest in the future so that their children and grandchildren can | :44:47. | :44:49. | |
make the most of the opportunities ahead. That means addressing the | :44:50. | :44:54. | |
skills gap and ensuring that every child, regardless of background, has | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
the opportunity to go to a good or outstanding school. At Autumn | :44:59. | :45:05. | |
Statement, I focused on investment in infrastructure and R The next | :45:06. | :45:08. | |
step today in our plan to raise productivity and living standards is | :45:09. | :45:13. | |
to focus on the quality of our children's education. Mr Deputy | :45:14. | :45:21. | |
Speaker, while investing in education and skills of course helps | :45:22. | :45:24. | |
to tackle the productivity gap, delivering greater prosperity, it | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
does something else as well. It delivers greater fairness. Because | :45:30. | :45:32. | |
investing in skills and education is the key to inclusive growth, to an | :45:33. | :45:38. | |
economy that works for everyone. Mr Deputy Speaker, if you talk to | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
people from any background, in any part of the country, about their | :45:43. | :45:45. | |
hopes and aspirations for the future, you will hear a recurring | :45:46. | :45:49. | |
concern for the next generation # row will they have the | :45:50. | :45:52. | |
qualifications to find a job, will it have the skills to retrain as | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
that job changes and changes again over a working lifetime? Will they | :45:57. | :46:00. | |
be able to get on the housing ladder, to save for a pension? In | :46:01. | :46:04. | |
short, the question that concerns so many people is, will our children | :46:05. | :46:09. | |
enjoy the same opportunities that we did. Mr Deputy Speaker, our job is | :46:10. | :46:17. | |
to make sure that they do, and that is why we are investing in education | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
and skills, to ensure that every young person, whatever their | :46:23. | :46:25. | |
background, wherever they live, has the opportunity to succeed and | :46:26. | :46:29. | |
prosper. The proportion of young people not in work or education is | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
now the lowest since records began. That is a good base from which to | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
build, but it is only by equipping them for the jobs of tomorrow that | :46:40. | :46:43. | |
we ensure that they will have real economic security. We have put | :46:44. | :46:47. | |
education reform at the heart of our agenda since 2010, and that | :46:48. | :46:52. | |
commitment, that commitment is already paying off. 89% of schools | :46:53. | :46:58. | |
in England are now rated good or outstanding, the highest proportion | :46:59. | :47:02. | |
ever recorded. What that means, Mr Deputy Speaker, is 1.8 million more | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
children being taught in good or outstanding schools than when the | :47:07. | :47:13. | |
party opposite left office in 2010. Our forthcoming schools white paper | :47:14. | :47:17. | |
will ask universities and private schools to sponsor new free schools. | :47:18. | :47:22. | |
It will remove the barriers that prevent more good faith based free | :47:23. | :47:26. | |
schools from opening and enable the creation of new selective free | :47:27. | :47:29. | |
schools so that the most academically gifted children, of | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
every background, get the specialist support they need to fulfil their | :47:35. | :47:41. | |
potential. Today, I can announce funding for a further 110 new free | :47:42. | :47:47. | |
schools, on top of the current commitment to 500. This will include | :47:48. | :47:52. | |
new specialist maths schools to build on the clear success of Exeter | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
mathematics school, and King's College London maths school, which | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
my right honourable friend the Prime Minister visited earlier this week. | :48:01. | :48:03. | |
We commit to this programme because we understand that choice is the key | :48:04. | :48:14. | |
to excellence in education. But, Mr Deputy Speaker, we recognise that, | :48:15. | :48:18. | |
for many parents, the cost of travel can be a barrier to exercising that | :48:19. | :48:23. | |
choice. Pupils typically travel three times as far to attend | :48:24. | :48:29. | |
selective schools, so we will extend free school transport to include all | :48:30. | :48:33. | |
children on free school meals who attend a selective school, because | :48:34. | :48:41. | |
we, Mr Deputy Speaker, are resolved that talent alone should determine | :48:42. | :48:43. | |
the opportunities a child enjoys. And before they get too excited, Mr | :48:44. | :48:58. | |
Deputy Speaker, we will invest in our existing schools too, by | :48:59. | :49:01. | |
providing an additional, oh yes, we will, by providing an additional | :49:02. | :49:09. | |
?216 million over the next three years, taking total investment in | :49:10. | :49:13. | |
school condition to well over ?10 billion in this Parliament. Mr | :49:14. | :49:19. | |
Deputy Speaker, good schools are the bedrock of our education system, but | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
we need to do more to support our young adults into quality jobs and | :49:25. | :49:27. | |
help them gain world class skills, and while we have academic wood that | :49:28. | :49:33. | |
is one of the best in the world, the truth is that we languish near the | :49:34. | :49:38. | |
bottom of the international league tables for technical education. Our | :49:39. | :49:43. | |
rigorous, well-recognised system of A-levels provides students with the | :49:44. | :49:49. | |
qualifications to move into our world-class higher education system, | :49:50. | :49:52. | |
and we support these route further today by offering maintenance loans | :49:53. | :49:55. | |
to part-time undergraduate and doctoral loans in all subjects for | :49:56. | :50:01. | |
the first time. But long ago, Mr Deputy Speaker, our competitors in | :50:02. | :50:05. | |
Germany, the US and elsewhere realised that, to compete in the | :50:06. | :50:09. | |
fast-moving global economy, you have to link technical skills to jobs, | :50:10. | :50:15. | |
and I am pleased to report, in National Apprenticeship Week, that | :50:16. | :50:17. | |
our apprenticeship route is now finally delivering that ambition | :50:18. | :50:22. | |
here, with 2.4 million apprenticeships started in the last | :50:23. | :50:25. | |
our apprenticeship levy in April our apprenticeship levy in April | :50:26. | :50:29. | |
supporting a further 3 million apprenticeships by 2020. But there | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
is still a lingering doubt about the parity of esteem attaching to | :50:36. | :50:42. | |
technical education pursued through the further education route. Today, | :50:43. | :50:45. | |
we end that is doubtful good with the introduction of T-levels. Thanks | :50:46. | :50:54. | |
to the work of Lord Sainsbury, Baroness will and other experts, we | :50:55. | :50:58. | |
have a blueprint to follow. Their review concluded that students need | :50:59. | :51:01. | |
a much clearer system of qualifications, one that is designed | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
and recognised by employers with clear routes into work, more time in | :51:06. | :51:08. | |
the classroom and good quality work placements. One that replaces the | :51:09. | :51:15. | |
13,000 or so different qualifications with just 15 clear, | :51:16. | :51:21. | |
career focused roots, delivering on those recommendations is the third | :51:22. | :51:26. | |
part of our plan. So today we will invest to deliver in full these game | :51:27. | :51:31. | |
changing reforms. We will increase by over 50% the number of hours' | :51:32. | :51:38. | |
training for 16-19 -year-old technical students, including a | :51:39. | :51:40. | |
high-quality three-month work placement for every student. So when | :51:41. | :51:45. | |
they qualify, they are genuinely work ready. Once this programme is | :51:46. | :51:51. | |
fully rolled out, Mr Deputy Speaker, we will be investing in an | :51:52. | :51:56. | |
additional ?500 million a year in our 16-19 -year-olds, and to | :51:57. | :51:59. | |
encourage and support the best of them to go on to advanced technical | :52:00. | :52:04. | |
study, we will offer maintenance loans for those and taking higher | :52:05. | :52:09. | |
level technical qualifications at the new Institute of Technology and | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
national colleges, just as we do for those university. Putting the | :52:14. | :52:20. | |
next-generation first to safeguard their future and secure our economy. | :52:21. | :52:25. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, because changing labour markets will mean that | :52:26. | :52:30. | |
retraining is vital, with many of our young people today needing to | :52:31. | :52:34. | |
retrain at least once, and perhaps more often during a working life | :52:35. | :52:39. | |
that maize ban more than 50 years, we will consider how best to deliver | :52:40. | :52:44. | |
high quality learning and training throughout working lives. The FA | :52:45. | :52:49. | |
will invest up to ?40 million in pilots to test the fact is of | :52:50. | :52:52. | |
different approaches to lifelong learning. -- DfE. So that we can | :52:53. | :52:58. | |
identify what works best and help the next-generation learn train | :52:59. | :53:03. | |
throughout their lives. Mr Deputy Speaker, just as the principle that | :53:04. | :53:07. | |
every child should have the opportunity to fulfil his or her | :53:08. | :53:11. | |
potential is central to this Government's values, so is the | :53:12. | :53:14. | |
principle that everyone has access to our national Health Service when | :53:15. | :53:19. | |
they needed and that everyone should enjoy security and dignity in old | :53:20. | :53:26. | |
age. Today our social care system cares for over 1 million people, and | :53:27. | :53:29. | |
I want to pay tribute to the hundreds of thousands of carers work | :53:30. | :53:35. | |
in it. But the system is clearly under pressure, and this in turn | :53:36. | :53:39. | |
puts pressure on our NHS. Today there are 500,000 more people aged | :53:40. | :53:46. | |
over 75 than there were in 2010, and there will be 2 million more in ten | :53:47. | :53:50. | |
years' time. That is why the Government has already delivered ?7 | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
billion extra spending power to the system over the next three years, | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
and it is why we are ensuring that local authorities and the NHS work | :54:00. | :54:02. | |
more closely together to enable elderly patients to be discharged | :54:03. | :54:07. | |
when they are ready, freeing up precious NHS beds, and ensuring that | :54:08. | :54:11. | |
elderly people are receiving the appropriate care for their needs. So | :54:12. | :54:17. | |
today, Mr Deputy Speaker, I am committing additional grant funding | :54:18. | :54:23. | |
of ?2 billion to social care in England over the next three years. | :54:24. | :54:29. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, that is ?2 billion over the next three years | :54:30. | :54:38. | |
with ?1 billion available in 2017-18, this will allow local | :54:39. | :54:42. | |
authorities to act now to commission new care packages and forms a bridge | :54:43. | :54:48. | |
to the better care funding that becomes available towards the end of | :54:49. | :54:52. | |
the parliament. Of course, Mr Deputy Speaker, this is not only about | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
money. While there are many excellent examples of best practice | :54:58. | :55:01. | |
around the country, at the other end of the scale, just 24 local | :55:02. | :55:06. | |
authorities are responsible for over half of all delayed discharges to | :55:07. | :55:11. | |
social care, so alongside additional funding, the health and communities | :55:12. | :55:15. | |
secretaries will announce measures to identify and support authorities | :55:16. | :55:18. | |
which are struggling and to ensure more joined up working with the NHS. | :55:19. | :55:24. | |
These measures, and greater collaborative working and NHS | :55:25. | :55:29. | |
sustainability and transformation plans, will bring short and | :55:30. | :55:31. | |
medium-term benefits, but long-term challenges of sustainable funding | :55:32. | :55:38. | |
for care in old age requires a strategic approach. And the | :55:39. | :55:42. | |
Government will set out its thinking on the options for the future | :55:43. | :55:45. | |
financing of social care in a green paper later this year. For the | :55:46. | :55:51. | |
avoidance of doubt, Mr Deputy Speaker, I would like to make it | :55:52. | :55:55. | |
clear that those options do not include, and never have included, | :55:56. | :56:05. | |
exhuming Labour's hated death tax. The social care funding package that | :56:06. | :56:09. | |
I have announced today will deliver immediate benefit to the NHS, | :56:10. | :56:13. | |
allowing it to refocus on delivering the NHS England forward Plan A plan | :56:14. | :56:18. | |
which this Government has supported with the ?10 billion increase in | :56:19. | :56:25. | |
annual funding by 2020, ?4 billion in this year alone. We recognise the | :56:26. | :56:31. | |
progress that the NHS is making in developing sustainability and | :56:32. | :56:35. | |
transformation plans, and we recognise too, Mr Deputy Speaker, | :56:36. | :56:39. | |
that in addition to the funding already committed, some of those | :56:40. | :56:42. | |
plans will require further capital investment. So the Treasury will | :56:43. | :56:46. | |
work closely with the Department of Health over the summer, as the | :56:47. | :56:52. | |
programmes are prioritised and progress, and that autumn budget, I | :56:53. | :56:55. | |
will announce a multi-year capital programme to support implementation | :56:56. | :57:02. | |
of high-quality STPs across the health service in England. In the | :57:03. | :57:06. | |
meantime, my right honourable friend the Health Secretary expects that a | :57:07. | :57:10. | |
small number of the strongest STPs may be ready ahead of autumn budget, | :57:11. | :57:19. | |
so I am allowing more capital to allow the first selected plans to | :57:20. | :57:23. | |
proceed. Mr Deputy Speaker, I have one further announcement relating to | :57:24. | :57:28. | |
the NHS. The social care package that I have announced today will | :57:29. | :57:33. | |
help to free up beds by easing discharge of elderly patients. That | :57:34. | :57:36. | |
is one of the two big pressures in our hospitals. The other is | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
inappropriate A attendances by people of all ages. Experience has | :57:41. | :57:47. | |
shown that on-site GP triage in A departments can have a significant | :57:48. | :57:52. | |
and positive impact on A waiting times. I am therefore making a | :57:53. | :57:57. | |
further ?100 million of capital available immediately for new triage | :57:58. | :58:02. | |
project at English hospitals in time for next winter. Mr Deputy Speaker, | :58:03. | :58:10. | |
this government backs the NHS's plan. We are funding it with a ?10 | :58:11. | :58:14. | |
billion above inflation increase by 2020. We have addressed the | :58:15. | :58:19. | |
pressures on the NHS from the social care system with a total of ?9.25 | :58:20. | :58:24. | |
billion additional resources. We will protect the NHS from the | :58:25. | :58:28. | |
effects of the changed personal injury discount rate and have set | :58:29. | :58:32. | |
aside ?5.9 billion across the forecast period to do so. And today | :58:33. | :58:39. | |
we have made it clear them up -- a clear new commitment to a capital | :58:40. | :58:43. | |
programme to find high-quality STPs with the first down payment for the | :58:44. | :58:48. | |
early pioneers. Mr Deputy Speaker, as the voters of Copeland so clearly | :58:49. | :58:54. | |
understood, we are the party of the NHS! | :58:55. | :59:01. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, we are the party of the NHS colours we have not just | :59:02. | :59:07. | |
the commitment and the will, but also the economic plan that will | :59:08. | :59:12. | |
secure the future of our most important public service. Mr Deputy | :59:13. | :59:19. | |
Speaker, last November, I set out our plan to build an economy that | :59:20. | :59:24. | |
works for everyone, to enhance our productivity and protect our living | :59:25. | :59:29. | |
standards, to restore our public finances to balance, and to invest | :59:30. | :59:35. | |
for our future. Today's OBR report confirms the continued resilience of | :59:36. | :59:40. | |
the British economy, and that this Budget we continue with our plan, | :59:41. | :59:44. | |
building on the foundation of our economic strength, reaching out to | :59:45. | :59:50. | |
seize the opportunities that lie ahead, backing our public services, | :59:51. | :59:55. | |
supporting Britain's families, investing in the skills of our young | :59:56. | :59:59. | |
people, and making Britain the best place in the world to do business. | :00:00. | :00:05. | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, our United Kingdom has a proud history - we | :00:06. | :00:10. | |
have done remarkable things together. But we look forwards, not | :00:11. | :00:16. | |
backwards, confident that our greatest achievements are ahead of | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
us. Today we reaffirm our commitment to invest in Britain's future, and | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
we embark on this next chapter of our history confident in our | :00:26. | :00:32. | |
strengths and clear in our determination to build a stronger, | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
there, better Britain. I commend this Budget to the House. | :00:37. | :00:43. | |
STUDIO: The Chancellor, Philip Hammond, the conclusion of his first | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
Budget speech. We will be back in the Commons in a moment, because, of | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
course, we will get the response from Labour's Jeremy Corbyn, who was | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
the butt of quite a few criticisms there from the Chancellor as he went | :00:57. | :01:00. | |
through the statement. Let's look at some of the main measures quickly | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
before we go back to the Commons. They include ?2 billion of | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
additional funding over three years for adult social care in England. | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
That's been one of the main focuses over the past few months. The | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
pressure on the social care system. He has allocated an extra ?2 billion | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
over three years. Big changes in national insurance, because the | :01:20. | :01:21. | |
national insurance for self-employed workers is to increase by 1% to 10% | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
in April 2018 and again after that. workers is to increase by 1% to 10% | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
in April 2018 and again after that. There will be talk about that. We | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
will discuss it here in the studio and of course on business rates, | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
because lots of businesses, concerned after the revaluation | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
about the impact, ?1,000 business rate discount for pubs in England | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
with the rateable value of under ?100,000, that accounts for 90% or | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
so of all the pubs in England. It affects lots of them. Let's look at | :01:49. | :01:55. | |
the other main measures: ?300 million for businesses facing large | :01:56. | :02:02. | |
rates increases. A reduction of tax redifficultened allowance for ?5,000 | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
to ?2,000 in April 2018. That will affect directors who are | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
shareholders and the sugar tax levy confirmed at 18 p and 24 p per later | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
for main and higher bands. Those are the main measures. Now we will go | :02:16. | :02:20. | |
back into the chamber. The Deputy Speaker is basically going through | :02:21. | :02:24. | |
some of the financial measures, some of the technical demands on the | :02:25. | :02:26. | |
House at this point. I think of the technical demands on the | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
House at this point. I think that Labour's Jeremy Corbyn will be on | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
his feet within a few seconds. Maybe time for a comment from Laura? | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
Interesting to see Philip Hammond, normally a very dead pan politician | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
feeling relaxed and confident enough to be frequently cracking jokes | :02:45. | :02:46. | |
throughout that Budget. Very interesting indeed. The big | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
challenge is whether the rhetoric - we heard lots of the use of the word | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
"fairness", matches the reality. This was a Budget of utter | :02:56. | :02:58. | |
complacency about the state of our economy. Utter complacency about the | :02:59. | :03:05. | |
crisis facing our public services and, complacent about the reality of | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
daily life for millions of people in this country. Entirely out of touch | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
with that reality of life for millions. This morning, over ?1 | :03:16. | :03:24. | |
million workers will have woken up, not knowing whether they'll work | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
today, tomorrow or next week. Millions more workers know their | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
next pay packet will not be enough to make ends meet. Millions | :03:34. | :03:40. | |
struggling to pay rent or mortgage, with private renters, on average, | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
paying nearly half their income on rent. Yesterday, Mr Deputy Speaker, | :03:44. | :03:50. | |
over 3,000 people in this country will have queued up at food banks to | :03:51. | :03:57. | |
feed themselves and their families. Last night, Mr Deputy Speaker over | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
4,000 people will have slept rough on the streets of this country. And | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
the Chancellor made his boast about a strong economy. But who is reaping | :04:09. | :04:14. | |
the rewards of this economy? For millions, it is simply not working. | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
Not working for the NHS. In its worse crisis ever, with funding | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
being cut next year. Not working for our children's schools. Not working | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
for our children's schools, where pupil funding continues to be cut. | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
Not work for our neighbourhoods which have lost 20,000 police | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
officers. Leaving the force in a perilous state in many parts of the | :04:43. | :04:50. | |
country. And not working for our dedicated public services and the | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
people who work in them. Nurses, firefighters, teachers, no pay rise | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
for seven years for them. And for people with disabilities, | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
who are twice as lakely to be living in poverty -- twice as likely, and | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
this Government is denying them the support that the courts say they | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
need. 4 million children living in poverty which will rise by another 1 | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
million in coming years. Not working for the thousands of young people, | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
who can't get anywhere to live, can't get on the housing ladder and | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
cannot, in many cases, leave the parental home. | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
Parents of grown-up children, who would expect to be debt-free by now, | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
but having to bail out student debt or try to help with a deposit to get | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
housing, if they can manage it and a million elderly people and I'll come | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
on to this again, denied the social care they need due to the ?4.6 | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
billion cuts made by his Government with the support of the Liberal | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
Democrats over the past five years. Not for pensioners, for whom the | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
security of the triple lock remains in doubt. Mr Deputy Speaker, that is | :06:03. | :06:10. | |
the reality facing Britain today. A Government cutting services, and | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
living standards of the many, top fund and continue to fund the tax | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
cuts of the few. There are some people, Mr Deputy Speaker, who are | :06:20. | :06:22. | |
doing very well under the doing very well under the | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
Conservative Government. The chief executives of big companies, now | :06:27. | :06:33. | |
paid 180 times more than the average worker and taxed less. | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
Big corporations making higher profits than being taxed less. | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
Speculators making more and being taxed less. | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
And wealthiest families taxed less, due to cuts in inheritance tax. A | :06:48. | :07:00. | |
give way to those who need it the least. This Government is a | :07:01. | :07:02. | |
Government with the wrong priority. Let me give you three examples: The | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
pain of losing a child is unimaginable for most of us. But for | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
those who do that, that pain is worsened by the stress of having to | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
pay for their own child's funeral. I pay tribute to my friend, the member | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
for Swansea East, for her campaign to establish a Children's Funeral | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
Fund but far from establishing such a fund costing just ?10 million a | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
year, the Government is instead cutting support for bereaved | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
families. Three in four bereaved families will receive less. This is | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
utterly the whatless. Despite generous tax give-aways at | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
the top end, there was no money, either for the 160,000 people with | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
disabilities that a court has ruled deserve a higher rate of personal | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
independence payments. These are people with debilitating mental | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
health conditions. Dementia, schizophrenia, post-traumatic stress | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
disorder. The Prime Minister came to office talking about fighting | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
burning injustices. Less than nine months later she seems to have | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
forgotten all about them because none of them are being fought today. | :08:17. | :08:22. | |
Low pay holds people back and it is holding our country back. We are the | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
only major developed country in which economic growth has returned, | :08:29. | :08:34. | |
yet workers are worse off, wages are still below the 2008 level. | :08:35. | :08:40. | |
Inflation rising, an urgent need to address the pressure on people's | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
incomes. Massively rising personal debts. Rising energy bills and the | :08:44. | :08:49. | |
cost of the weekly shop, transport costs and housing costs all rising. | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
The Chancellor faced a series of tests as to whether he would stand | :08:54. | :08:57. | |
on the same side of the people or not. He could have raised the | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
minimum wage to the level of the living wage. The real living wage of | :09:03. | :09:09. | |
?10 per hour, as we, the Labour Party are pledged to do. | :09:10. | :09:15. | |
It would pay for a pay rise for 6 million people in this country, 62% | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
of whom are women. He failed to do that. Since 2010, millions of public | :09:20. | :09:27. | |
sector workers have endured a pay freeze and then a pay cut. Dedicated | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
public servants who keep our services going, have lost over 9% of | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
their real wages, or will have done by 2020. | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
He could have ended the public sector pay cut, as we are pledged to | :09:43. | :09:50. | |
do, and given a pay rise to 5 million dedicated public servants | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
who we all rely on day-in, day-out in our hospitals, our health service | :09:56. | :09:58. | |
in general and our local government. He failed to do that. It's an insult | :09:59. | :10:04. | |
to say they deserve falling living standards when we all know those in | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
the public sector are working harder than ever, covering the jobs of | :10:09. | :10:12. | |
those that have gone. There is a crisis, too, Mr Deputy Speaker in | :10:13. | :10:19. | |
job security. Millions of workers don't know whether or not they'll be | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
working from day to day. Millions of workers who don't know how many | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
hours they'll be working this week or next week. Just imagine what it's | :10:31. | :10:37. | |
like to try and plan your life if you don't know what your income is | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
going to be from one week to the other. Because, Mr Deputy Speaker, | :10:42. | :10:50. | |
that is the reality... Order. Can I just say to these benches, I want to | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
hear the Leader of the Opposition. I don't want him shouted down because | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
you may not be interested but our constituents out there want it hear | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
what the alternative is. -- want to hear. | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
If the whip wants to be funny he can go and get a cup of tea now. So, | :11:10. | :11:15. | |
let's just show the same respect that was given to the Chancellor of | :11:16. | :11:17. | |
the Exchequer. Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you Mr Deputy | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
Speaker. There is nothing funny about being one of 900,000 workers | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
on zero hours contracts. 55% of them women. He could have announced ban | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
on zero hours contracts, as we are pledged to do. Again, he failed. But | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
zero hours contracts, Mr Deputy Speaker, are only the tip of an | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
iceberg. 4.5 million workers in Britain, in insecure work. 2.3 | :11:42. | :11:47. | |
million working variable shift patterns, 1.1 million on temporary | :11:48. | :11:53. | |
contracts. We have long argued to clamp-down on bogus self-employment | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
but today the Chancellor seems to put the burden on self-employed | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
workers instead. There has to be something for something deal, so I | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
hope the Chancellor will bring forward extra Social Security in | :12:08. | :12:13. | |
return. One policy that Labour backed, extending statutory | :12:14. | :12:16. | |
maternity pay it self-employed women, which is likely to cost just | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
?10 million per year. -- to self-employed women. Low pay and | :12:22. | :12:24. | |
insecure work have consequences for us all. Mr Deputy Speaker, in | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
reality we all pay for low pay. There are a million working | :12:31. | :12:32. | |
households having to claim housing benefited. Just get that figure. 1 | :12:33. | :12:42. | |
million working households claiming housing benefit because their wages | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
million working families who simply million working families who simply | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
rely on tax credits to make ends meet. This is modern Britain. The | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
most effective way of boosting wages and increasing job security, as all | :12:55. | :13:00. | |
studies show, is actually to improve collective bargaining through a | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
trade union. Words that the Chancellor did not use in his | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
speech. But instead of a trade union act we have, which will further | :13:10. | :13:15. | |
Shackell unions and perpetuate chronic low pay, which actually | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
costs us all a lot of money through in-work benefits, we will promote | :13:21. | :13:28. | |
collective bargaining and repeal the Trade Union Act. This is a | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
Chancellor and a Government not on the side of the workers, not on the | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
side of the tax payers who pick up the bill for low pay and insecure | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
work. Mr Deputy Speaker, on International Women's Day, did the | :13:41. | :13:43. | |
Chancellor deliver a Budget that works for women? According to the | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
House of Commons' library analysis, House of Commons' library analysis, | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
commissioned by my friend, the member for Rotherham, who is doing a | :13:53. | :13:58. | |
brilliant job speaking up for women from our front benches, 86% of the | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
savings the Treasury has made from tax and benefits have fallen on | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
women. Women's lives have been made more difficult through successive | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
policies of this Government. Women struggling with more caring | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
responsibility, due to the continuing state of emergency in | :14:17. | :14:26. | |
social care. The Waspie women, born in the 1950s, who with little notice | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
facing a crisis in retirement they could not possibly have predicted. | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
54,000 women a year are forced out of their jobs through maternity | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
discrimination. They can't afford this Government's extortionate fees, | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
to take their employer to a tribunal in search of justice. Women up and | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
down the country, who will have to wait another 60 years before the | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
gender pay gap is closed. The hundreds, hundreds of women being | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
turned away from domestic violence shelters every year, through lack of | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
space or appropriate services, or because they have simply been | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
closed. Mothers struggling, put under more pressure through cuts to | :15:07. | :15:08. | |
Universal Credit and tax credits. If this wasn't bad enough, to cut | :15:09. | :15:20. | |
tax credits for children who are born third or fourth in a family. | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
Most shamefully, Mr Deputy Speaker, as of next month, women will have to | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
prove that their third child is a product of rape if they wish to | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
qualify for a child tax credits for that child. I paid tribute to my | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
friend the member for Rotherham, and the honourable member for Glasgow | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
Central, for their campaigning on this issue. I hope the Chancellor | :15:43. | :15:49. | |
will reverse this cut. There is, Mr Deputy Speaker, a housing crisis, a | :15:50. | :15:56. | |
crisis of supply and affordability. Since 2010, house building has | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
fallen to its lowest rate in peace time since the 1920s. The building | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
of social homes for rent is at its lowest level for a quarter of a | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
century. Did he empower councils to tackle the housing crisis by | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
allowing them to borrow to build council housing, as we are pledged | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
to do? No! Have they replace council houses sold under right to buy, as | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
they promised? No! Just one in six have been replaced! And was there | :16:23. | :16:27. | |
any commitment to return to the council is the ?800 million right to | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
buy proceeds the Treasury has taken back which would build 12,000 homes? | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
No. Did he scrapped the unfair bedroom tax, as we are pledged to | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
do? No. Did he reverse housing benefit cuts that would take support | :16:43. | :16:48. | |
away from 10,000 young people, despite the opposition of Shelter, | :16:49. | :16:53. | |
Crisis and centre point, which even the honourable member for Enfield | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
Southgate correctly described as catastrophic? Last week, the | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
Institute for Government said there were clear warning signs of the | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
damaging impact of government cuts on schools, prisons, health and | :17:07. | :17:09. | |
social care. This government has taken a sledgehammer to public | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
services in recent years. The Chancellor now expects praise for | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
patching up a small part of that damage. The Budget did not provide | :17:17. | :17:22. | |
the funding necessary now for the crisis in our NHS. The BMA reckons | :17:23. | :17:29. | |
it needs a next ?10 billion. It didn't provide the funding necessary | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
to end the state of emergency and social care now, which needs to | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
billion pounds a year just to plug the gaps, according to the King's | :17:40. | :17:45. | |
Fund. That is not met by ?2 billion over three years. The money is | :17:46. | :17:51. | |
needed now. More than 1 million people, mainly elderly people, | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
desperate for social care, still can't get it. The money ought to be | :17:55. | :18:01. | |
made available now. Because this government ducks really tough | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
choices, like asking corporations to pay a little bit more in tax. Not | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
every local authority can just text Neck and get the deal they won't! | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
Another council services are suffering as well. Our communities | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
are stronger when we have good libraries, and they are valuable, | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
obviously for children, but for the entire community. 67 closed last | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
year because of local government underfunding. 700 sure start centres | :18:31. | :18:38. | |
closed because of lack of funding from local authorities, denying the | :18:39. | :18:41. | |
life chances that a Labour government delivered to them with | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
the opening of those centres in the 1990s. And 600 youth centres have | :18:46. | :18:52. | |
closed as well. These painful decisions are being taken by | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
councils not because they want to do it but because they don't enough | :18:58. | :19:00. | |
money even to keep essential services running because of the | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
slashing of their budgets year-on-year. And it goes on! It | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
affect our communities and our lives in so many ways. Last year, councils | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
proposed a sell-off of school playing fields to the equivalent of | :19:14. | :19:19. | |
500 football pitches. 500 pitches not available for young people to | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
indulge in sport. It is our duty as a community, surely, to ensure all | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
our young people, wherever they live, have a decent chance to grow | :19:29. | :19:31. | |
up with a library, with a playing field, with a Sure Start centre. It | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
is not a lot to ask. The Chancellor boasts, Mr Deputy Speaker, of a | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
strong economy, but abandons the target of the previous Chancellor, | :19:43. | :19:46. | |
so let's give a more realistic context to today's figures. The | :19:47. | :19:50. | |
deficits that was going to be eradicated in 2015, you all remember | :19:51. | :19:56. | |
the long-term economic plan? The debt was going to peak at 80% of GDP | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
and then start falling. Our economy is not prepared for Brexit. We still | :20:02. | :20:07. | |
have an economy suffering from underinvestment and an overreliance | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
on consumer spending and wholly unsustainable levels of personal and | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
household debt. Investment must be evenly spread around our country. | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
Despite the announcements today, London continues to receive six | :20:23. | :20:28. | |
times as much investment as the north-east, and so that is why | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
Labour is backing the fair funding formula for investment so that every | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
area gets its fair share of capital spending. What has been announced | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
today doesn't achieve that. You can't build a Northern Powerhouse or | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
a Midlands Engine if the investment does not follow the sound bite. Our | :20:48. | :20:51. | |
country currently spends 1.7% on research and development, well below | :20:52. | :20:56. | |
the OECD average. The strongest economies spend over 3%. In the | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
immediate term, and the Chancellor did not have much to say about this, | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
he must focus his attention is on the precarious future of skilled | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
workers and' jobs at Vauxhall in Ellesmere port in Luton and Ford in | :21:11. | :21:20. | |
Bridgend. It would give these companies more confidence if the | :21:21. | :21:22. | |
Government were committed to negotiating for tariff free access | :21:23. | :21:25. | |
to the single market and dropped the reckless threat of turning Britain | :21:26. | :21:28. | |
into a tax saving on the shores of Europe. One of the biggest | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
challenges facing our country, Mr Deputy Speaker, is environmental, it | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
is climate change. This government is failing to lead, failing to drive | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
a mission led industrial strategy as our own business select committee | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
has recommended. The Chancellor failed to make energy efficiency a | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
National Infrastructure Plan and the. No commitment to establishing | :21:53. | :21:56. | |
zero carbon standards on new building, and unclear about | :21:57. | :22:01. | |
investments in public transport that will definitely reduce pollution. | :22:02. | :22:07. | |
The poor air quality is appalling. It is killing thousands of people in | :22:08. | :22:11. | |
this country. It is taking away the life chances of many children | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
growing up alongside polluted roads. The good work being done by Labour's | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
London Marathon, Sadiq Khan, the good work being done by the Labour | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
government, has recognised this as an urgent public health crisis, | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
particularly for children. We have to deal with this crisis and deal | :22:30. | :22:36. | |
with it urgently. There cannot be, Mr Deputy Speaker, an industrial | :22:37. | :22:38. | |
strategy or productivity gains unless there is serious investment | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
in skills. Adult skills training cut by 54%, further education by 14%, | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
and the small amounts committed today are long overdue but woefully | :22:48. | :22:53. | |
insufficient. Over the coming years, the schools budget is being cut by | :22:54. | :22:59. | |
8%. Does the Chancellor really want fewer teachers and teaching | :23:00. | :23:02. | |
assistants, larger classes, shorter schooldays? Which is it? I agree | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
with the Prime Minister that every child deserves a decent education, | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
every community deserves decent schools. You do it by working with | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
those communities to provide those schools, not blogging into them | :23:16. | :23:18. | |
selective schools which are not being demanded by those communities. | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
The money announced by the Prime Minister yesterday for the new | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
grammar schools is frankly a vanity project. Cancel this gimmick, | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
project selection and segregation, and why not honour their own 2050 | :23:31. | :23:36. | |
manifesto pledge to protect per-pupil funding, which is clearly | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
not happening? -- 2015. This is a Budget that lacks ambition for this | :23:42. | :23:44. | |
country and lacks fairness. It demonstrates again the appalling | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
priorities of this government, another year, tax breaks for the | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
few, public service cuts for the many. When she took office, the | :23:53. | :23:56. | |
Prime Minister said, if you are one of those families, if you are just | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
managing, I want to address you directly. This Budget does not | :24:01. | :24:05. | |
address them, it failed them! This Budget has done nothing to tackle | :24:06. | :24:11. | |
low play, to solve the state of emergency that persists for so many | :24:12. | :24:13. | |
people, demanding and needing health and social care now. And nothing to | :24:14. | :24:20. | |
make a fair economy truly working for everyone. It is built on | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
unfairness, and it is built on failure to tackle an fairness in our | :24:24. | :24:32. | |
society. Andrew Tyrie! STUDIO: Jeremy Corbyn, the Leader of | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
the Opposition, with his response, basically saying that he says there | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
is a crisis in public services which has not been addressed by this | :24:40. | :24:45. | |
Budget. We will put those points to the Chief Secretary, David Gauke, | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
when he joins us later, and John McDonnell will be with us too. There | :24:50. | :24:56. | |
will be a long debate. Days on the Budget, and if you want | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
uninterrupted coverage, you can go to our colleagues on BBC Parliament. | :25:01. | :25:07. | |
I think it is a good moment now to take us through the Budget measures, | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
quite a few of them, and we will go through those before we have a chat | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
in the studio with our colleagues, and indeed with Paul Johnson from | :25:17. | :25:18. | |
the Institute for Fiscal Studies, who has joined us. We have taken | :25:19. | :25:25. | |
delivery of the Red Book, I think it is there to say it is slimmer than | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
usual! Is that fair to say? Much slimmer than usual! Only 64 pages. | :25:31. | :25:38. | |
There are 77 measures in the 2016 budget, 28 in this one. Go I feel I | :25:39. | :25:46. | |
will probably mention those 28, let's have a look at those measures. | :25:47. | :25:55. | |
A significant upgrading then a slight downgrade in growth, so that | :25:56. | :26:02. | |
forecast slightly adjusted, but as I say, this year has been upgraded by | :26:03. | :26:08. | |
a bit. Let's go on to the borrowing forecasts, and a significant | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
reduction, in fact, in the forecast for 2016-17, at 51 billion. But then | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
we see the figures going on, no balancing of the books, as we see, | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
by the end of the parliament, but tapering away to 16 billion, that is | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
the latest borrowing forecast by 2021-22. We will be asking Paul to | :26:28. | :26:33. | |
tell us more about that. Let's talk about debt, 86.6% of GDP in 2016-17, | :26:34. | :26:39. | |
going down gradually, according to these latest forecasts, to 79.8% by | :26:40. | :26:46. | |
2021-22. That is the broad picture in terms of debt and borrowing and | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
the growth forecasts. Let's go on some measures, some policies. Health | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
and social care, well, this was one of the major announcements today, | :26:57. | :26:58. | |
after all the talk of pressure on the social care system in England, | :26:59. | :27:03. | |
an announcement to do with England. ?2 billion of additional funding | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
over three years for the social care system in England, is that enough? | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
Well, we will be talking to some people later and asking if it | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
answers the needs. Jeremy Corbyn doesn't think it does. Annexed the | :27:15. | :27:23. | |
?100 million to place GPs in A departments next winter. -- an extra | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
?100 million. The Chancellor says that is to address the fact that | :27:28. | :27:30. | |
many people turn up inappropriately for treatment at A departments. An | :27:31. | :27:39. | |
extra ?325 million for the first NHS sustainability and transformation | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
plans to be implemented, again, some of these reforms coming in to try to | :27:44. | :27:46. | |
deal with the pressures, the very real pressures within the NHS | :27:47. | :27:52. | |
system. Let's look at some tax changes. Well, national insurance | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
for self-employed workers to rise to 10% in April 20 11% in April 20 19. | :27:57. | :28:02. | |
I think it is there to say this will be a controversial change, simply | :28:03. | :28:07. | |
because there are lots of people saying this is a direct | :28:08. | :28:11. | |
contravention of a promise made in the Conservative manifesto, not to | :28:12. | :28:17. | |
raise any of the taxes, VAT, income tax, national insurance. We will ask | :28:18. | :28:20. | |
the Minister about that. The tax-free dividend allowance cut two | :28:21. | :28:26. | |
?2000, that is to do with company directors and the advantages they | :28:27. | :28:29. | |
get. And any personal tax-free allowance is to rise, as planned, | :28:30. | :28:36. | |
?12,500 by 2020. Business rates, Simon was talking about these | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
earlier, people wanting help with their rising business rates. There | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
will be ?300 million fund for businesses facing big increases to | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
their rates bills. Pubs in England, ?1000 discount for pubs with a | :28:50. | :28:53. | |
rateable value under ?100,000, the vast majority of pubs in England, | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
well over 90% getting that discount. And firms losing small business rate | :29:00. | :29:02. | |
relief will have a cap, their increases will be capped at ?50 per | :29:03. | :29:08. | |
month. All of that is meant to help, we will ask Simon whether it will do | :29:09. | :29:12. | |
the trick, and given what he has been told by people in business | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
about that. Money for the devolved administrations - an extra ?350 | :29:17. | :29:24. | |
million for the Scottish Government, an extra ?2 million for the Welsh | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
blood, ?120 million or thereabouts for the Northern Ireland executive, | :29:30. | :29:36. | |
when there is one in place. Then ?690 million competition launched | :29:37. | :29:40. | |
for local councils to tackle urban congestion. Those are the packages | :29:41. | :29:43. | |
not just for the devolved nations but for local authorities too. | :29:44. | :29:57. | |
110 new free schools will get funding. There's an introduction of | :29:58. | :30:07. | |
what we call T-levels to raise the status of technical educational | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
vocation. The Chancellor said that was a matter of priority for him. | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
Some other measures, the last set, as I go through the Budget measures | :30:18. | :30:21. | |
today, the National savings bond will be available from April, at | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
this time of very low interest rates, it will pay 2.2% interest on | :30:27. | :30:33. | |
deposits up to ?3000. The receipts to fund a further ?12 million for | :30:34. | :30:38. | |
women's charities on sanitary products. And some ?200 million to | :30:39. | :30:45. | |
encourage investment in local full fibre broadband networks. Even a | :30:46. | :30:48. | |
question at Prime Minister's Questions today about the quality of | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
broadband networks, especially in rural areas, so ?200 million to | :30:53. | :30:54. | |
encourage investment there. That is a broad sense of where we | :30:55. | :31:03. | |
are and there were some eye-catching proposals from the Chancellor, not | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
least to do with social care and the changes in national insurance. We | :31:08. | :31:10. | |
will talk to Paul with us, but Laura, I'm going to start with you. | :31:11. | :31:17. | |
On the political side, there's a broader picture clearly but can we | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
deal with the issue of manifesto pledges which may or may not have | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
been broken? In national insurance terms, what is your view? As simply | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
as I can, the Tory manifesto promised no increases in income tax, | :31:31. | :31:35. | |
VAT or national insurance rates. In the Budget today, Philip Hammond has | :31:36. | :31:38. | |
gone against the spirit of the pledge, absolutely, no question | :31:39. | :31:42. | |
about that because he has increased what is known as class for national | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
insurance payments, they will go up from 9% to 11% by 2018. Where the | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
Treasury will try to get itself off the hook on what I would describe as | :31:52. | :31:58. | |
a technicality is when that manifesto pledge was put into law, | :31:59. | :32:00. | |
the law that was passed referred only to a different class of | :32:01. | :32:03. | |
national insurance payments. What ended up in black and white in | :32:04. | :32:06. | |
legislation was a narrower promise than the Tory manifesto but if you | :32:07. | :32:12. | |
are only picking up the Tory manifesto and having a look he will | :32:13. | :32:14. | |
bring Philip Hammond has gone against it and I think that might be | :32:15. | :32:18. | |
a bit itchy politically but the scale of the measure overall might | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
mean they get off the hook? The broader picture, what did you make | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
of the statement itself in what it said about where the government | :32:27. | :32:31. | |
thinks it is? Safety first is really the headline from this. Philip | :32:32. | :32:34. | |
Hammond tiptoed through the controversial area of Brexit but | :32:35. | :32:38. | |
only at the beginning. He basically said it is the broad canvas but I | :32:39. | :32:41. | |
think quite deliberately chose not to make lots of references to what | :32:42. | :32:44. | |
happens when we leave the European Union or before then threw his | :32:45. | :32:49. | |
statement. I think basically he gave moderately with one hand and took | :32:50. | :32:54. | |
away moderately with the other. What I do think is worth drawing from | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
that is the emerging picture of what people at the top of government hope | :32:59. | :33:03. | |
people will come to see, they hope, is sort of Theresa May's | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
meritocracy. There is one phrase he used that stuck in my mind, he said, | :33:08. | :33:11. | |
"We believe talent should be the only driver", so whether that is | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
improving access to further education, better skills, trying to | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
help people who are, as Theresa May would say, getting on with it, with | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
something like the small print clause, the kind of things that | :33:26. | :33:29. | |
really make consumers mad, I think that emerging jigsaw of the overall | :33:30. | :33:33. | |
ethos was in there. But the real challenge is whether that matches up | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
to how people actually feel in terms of the economy. Labour already | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
pointing out a couple of things, they have gone through the numbers, | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
that real household income has been revised down on average, they are | :33:46. | :33:48. | |
forecasting people will be worse off cumulatively over the next five | :33:49. | :33:52. | |
years, to use of Labour's numbers and they have pointed out the | :33:53. | :33:56. | |
National Living Wage was meant to be ?9 by 2020 and today it has been | :33:57. | :34:03. | |
suggested it will only be ?8.75. As ever, rhetoric, reality, where do we | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
end up? Paul Cole your day, there were some big numbers in terms of | :34:08. | :34:10. | |
the growth forecast and all the rest it but what caught your eye? The | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
first thing is the big change in the public finances for this year | :34:16. | :34:18. | |
relative to what the Office for Budget Responsibility were saying in | :34:19. | :34:23. | |
November. It is something like ?16 billion increase, improvement in the | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
public finances for this year. That is by far and away the biggest | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
adjustment the OBR has made in a year since it came into existence. | :34:32. | :34:37. | |
The reason for that? There are two bits, about half of it is just one | :34:38. | :34:41. | |
of things, that will happen this year and will not happen again. Some | :34:42. | :34:48. | |
of that is some strange spending accounting, we are giving European | :34:49. | :34:50. | |
Union less money, as it happens, in the first quarter of the year and | :34:51. | :34:56. | |
more in the last three quarters of the year. There are some changes | :34:57. | :34:59. | |
associated with the changes to dividend taxation that came in last | :35:00. | :35:02. | |
year which means we are getting quite a lot more money in this year | :35:03. | :35:06. | |
but we will get less next year. There are some departmental spending | :35:07. | :35:11. | |
changes where departments don't seem to be spending all the money they | :35:12. | :35:14. | |
have got and then there are some longer term, better news, which is | :35:15. | :35:21. | |
that some other tax revenues, from corporation tax and PAYE income tax | :35:22. | :35:23. | |
are doing a bit better than expected. But no change at all to | :35:24. | :35:27. | |
the public finances three or four years down the road. So really, it | :35:28. | :35:33. | |
is a here and now change but looking on, prospects look, how do they look | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
to you? For the public finances, they haven't changed, pretty much, | :35:38. | :35:41. | |
in terms of the economy, looking a bit better in the short term but | :35:42. | :35:47. | |
again, the accord it -- economy according to the official forecast | :35:48. | :35:50. | |
will be roughly in 2020 where it was expected to be in November but as | :35:51. | :35:54. | |
Laura says, actually, also the bad news in a way is that the earnings | :35:55. | :35:59. | |
forecast and income forecast have gone down. This talk of the | :36:00. | :36:03. | |
Chancellor building up a kind of store of money, a war a Brexit | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
savings account, what is the evidence of that and where is that | :36:08. | :36:12. | |
going to happen? That is always nonsense. There is no war chest! The | :36:13. | :36:19. | |
Chancellor says there is ?1.7 trillion of debt, where is the war | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
chest there, and we are borrowing ?50 billion this year? The only way | :36:25. | :36:27. | |
you could think there is a war chest is that the Chancellor has said he | :36:28. | :36:34. | |
would be OK borrowing ?45 billion in 2020 and cried forecasts are only to | :36:35. | :36:38. | |
be borrowing ?20 billion. In that sense, he could borrow more and | :36:39. | :36:41. | |
still meet his own fiscal targets but of course, if we end up there, | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
then he's got another big period of austerity to get through to get down | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
to zero which is where he wants to be next parliament. That is the | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
point I wanted to raise, when he spoke last year about a | :36:53. | :36:54. | |
roller-coaster ride, we're talking now people will be saying some of | :36:55. | :37:04. | |
the figures look much better, the is in a better state than we thought it | :37:05. | :37:07. | |
would be, so has that roller-coaster in the medium term disappeared or is | :37:08. | :37:09. | |
there still one head? It is always important to compare where we are | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
not in terms of the forecast than where we were a year ago and they | :37:13. | :37:15. | |
are still all down relative to a year ago. There's a roller-coaster | :37:16. | :37:17. | |
ride in the sense that there are changes in the forecast and we still | :37:18. | :37:23. | |
seem to be on a bit of an upswing but the expectation is for a | :37:24. | :37:27. | |
downswing later. It is really important to be clear with these | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
forecasts, though, and I don't know if the OBR have said it but all | :37:32. | :37:34. | |
forecasters are saying at the moment there is probably more uncertainty | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
about where we will be in for five years' time than pretty much ever in | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
the last 20 or 30 years. I think what is striking when you look | :37:43. | :37:45. | |
through the Budget measures is not only the limited number of them but | :37:46. | :37:50. | |
in the next two years, there is actually a slight fiscal loosening. | :37:51. | :37:55. | |
Spending and tax changes, there are more giveaways than take away is. So | :37:56. | :37:59. | |
he has used a bit of the headroom, straightaway, on the social care | :38:00. | :38:06. | |
changes, on the higher taxes on dividends for company directors, to | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
enable him to support the economy slightly more aggressively than | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
maybe he would have done in the past. But all that, as Paul said, | :38:17. | :38:20. | |
has to be gained back towards the end of the forecast period, so yet | :38:21. | :38:23. | |
again, as we often had with George Osborne, it is paying, not cancelled | :38:24. | :38:29. | |
but delayed. So they push back the cuts that are going to be coming in. | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
So by the end of the forecast period, there will be this | :38:35. | :38:37. | |
tightening again into the next Parliament. I think the | :38:38. | :38:40. | |
self-employed issue is the start of the big debate of the next few | :38:41. | :38:44. | |
years. OK, it is a small start now, with the change in national | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
insurance class four. I think there is a big issue with the clash with | :38:49. | :38:53. | |
the spirit of the manifesto commitment. But what Phillip Hammond | :38:54. | :38:59. | |
clearly wants to do is what the Treasury are calling equalisation. | :39:00. | :39:01. | |
That means people who are self-employed are taxed in a way | :39:02. | :39:03. | |
that is more similar to those that are in full-time employment. It is | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
surprising, though, and I would be interested to us David Gauke about | :39:08. | :39:12. | |
it, why at the start of this debate and the tax rises on the | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
self-employed side of the ledger, with the self-employed people, | :39:17. | :39:20. | |
rather than the firms that you self-employed people and gain from | :39:21. | :39:24. | |
that because they don't do national insurance contributions, don't put | :39:25. | :39:27. | |
in pension contributions, don't allow for holiday entitlement? The | :39:28. | :39:32. | |
government has started it, started the squeeze on those working in that | :39:33. | :39:34. | |
area rather than the firms to gain from them. The Treasury's point on | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
this which they are trying to circulate their arguments right now, | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
after the statement, is that the intent of the manifesto was | :39:44. | :39:47. | |
delivered by that legislation we were talking about, the tax lock, | :39:48. | :39:50. | |
but what they are saying is, the point is it is not fair to the 85% | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
of workers who are employees, given that these days, the benefits and | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
entitlements are broadly similar. That is their case which is kind of, | :40:00. | :40:05. | |
"Whatever we said in the manifesto, this government", which in a lot of | :40:06. | :40:08. | |
weight is a new government, different with different priorities | :40:09. | :40:18. | |
to David Cameron in George Osborne, "In our calculation, we don't think | :40:19. | :40:21. | |
this is on", and they are prepared to take a hit on it and they know | :40:22. | :40:24. | |
they will because they have the arguments ready. Business rates was | :40:25. | :40:26. | |
the big thing for small business owners going into this and the | :40:27. | :40:28. | |
answer was a bit complicated and short lived. Basically, if you are a | :40:29. | :40:31. | |
small business and you were below the small business rates relief cap | :40:32. | :40:34. | |
which is ?15,000, the rateable value of your premises, if you are going | :40:35. | :40:37. | |
into the new bracket, the cap on your increase will be ?50 per week, | :40:38. | :40:43. | |
?50 per month, I should say and if you are a pub and your rateable | :40:44. | :40:46. | |
value is under ?100,000, you will get a ?1000 discount on your | :40:47. | :40:49. | |
business rates next year. That is not to say you will pay ?1000 less, | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
you are only going to pay ?1000 less than you would have paid with a | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
massive increase a lot of people out of pocket still. A ?300 million fund | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
to be administered by local authorities for the hardest hit, to | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
be administered area by area. It is a complicated problem so they are | :41:07. | :41:09. | |
farming it out to local authorities, if you like, you have to deal with | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
it with the ?300 million. But will the humility of effect do the trick? | :41:14. | :41:19. | |
?455 million in total in the giveaways are very short lived and | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
eventually, the rate rises will come through. They say they are going to | :41:24. | :41:30. | |
have a review, so unless this review, how much do companies like | :41:31. | :41:33. | |
Amazon pay compared to the corner shop, unless that delivers major | :41:34. | :41:35. | |
reform, and we won't know that yet, essentially, as Kamal Ahmed said, | :41:36. | :41:39. | |
this is paying delayed, not cancelled. Interestingly, a range of | :41:40. | :41:43. | |
things including the new T-levels, the focus on technology and | :41:44. | :41:46. | |
vocational skills, which lots of people in business have been | :41:47. | :41:49. | |
demanding some again, interesting to know what business makes this | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
qualification. I think they are broadly supportive, too many people | :41:55. | :41:57. | |
are focused on things like A-levels. I've been at the Geneva motor show | :41:58. | :42:01. | |
all week and they say they can't the right people, the labour supply may | :42:02. | :42:05. | |
be more constrained when we are outside the EU. If we are going to | :42:06. | :42:09. | |
build Heathrow, Hinkley Point, whatever, HS2, and bolster industry, | :42:10. | :42:15. | |
we're going to need these people and I think this will be broadly | :42:16. | :42:19. | |
supported. It kind of fits in with the industrial strategy we heard | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
about a few weeks ago. A quick final thought from Paul because David | :42:24. | :42:26. | |
Gauke will join us, the Treasury minister, in a moment, and then we | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
will go to Hull and get a response. Your headline thought from the | :42:31. | :42:35. | |
Budget today is? A couple of things, firstly, short-term gain to the | :42:36. | :42:38. | |
public finances but nothing improving in the long run. I quite | :42:39. | :42:42. | |
like some of the ways we have heard that we're going to have some | :42:43. | :42:46. | |
consultation on some big things, so more consultation on the | :42:47. | :42:50. | |
self-employed, more consultation on social care, more consultation on | :42:51. | :42:53. | |
some of the tax issues rather than jumping in feet first. On the | :42:54. | :42:57. | |
self-employed changes, an extra 2% on national insurance still doesn't | :42:58. | :43:01. | |
get them anywhere near as highly taxed as employees, so in a sense, | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
it is a move in the right direction one thing we have not talked about | :43:06. | :43:07. | |
is this reasonably significant increase in the taxation dividends. | :43:08. | :43:14. | |
That is what people who run and own their own companies can pay | :43:15. | :43:16. | |
themselves, what you receive if you own shares. This is an doing almost | :43:17. | :43:20. | |
mostly undoing a change that George Osborne announced only in July 2015, | :43:21. | :43:25. | |
that was only introduced last April. Probably a move just about in the | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
right direction in terms of evening up the tax treatment of | :43:31. | :43:37. | |
self-employed and owner managers. But not a very steady world where | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
you make a change last April and change it really quite significantly | :43:43. | :43:47. | |
this March. A slightly rueful look from George Osborne, nodding his | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
head during it. I wonder whether it was, as you are raising the amount | :43:52. | :43:54. | |
of national insurance the self-employed are pain, people might | :43:55. | :43:57. | |
think, "In that case, I'll incorporate myself into the | :43:58. | :44:01. | |
company", but they saw it coming so they reduced the amount of tax | :44:02. | :44:06. | |
relief. A quick word from Laura. That may prove to be politically | :44:07. | :44:09. | |
more troublesome than the national insurance weight because people who | :44:10. | :44:11. | |
set up their own Company and pay themselves dividends would probably | :44:12. | :44:20. | |
be natural Tory voters. That might get them or exercised. Thank you for | :44:21. | :44:24. | |
joining us, Paul. We will see you again. | :44:25. | :44:26. | |
I am at Arco distribution centre, close to the centre of Hull, which | :44:27. | :44:40. | |
is City of Culture for 2017 and part of the Northern Powerhouse. We used | :44:41. | :44:43. | |
to hear a lot about that. I think there was only one mention today in | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
Philip Hammond's speech when he talked about ?90 million going to | :44:49. | :44:51. | |
the Northern Powerhouse in transport. Let's find out if that is | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
enough for this man, Thomas Martin, the managing director of Arco. Is it | :44:56. | :44:59. | |
enough for you to get your teeth into? | :45:00. | :45:05. | |
It is a start, but it is only one mention. Our shareholders have | :45:06. | :45:13. | |
invested hundreds of millions, but we cannot do it on our own. I hope | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
to hear more about transport infrastructure, evidence that the | :45:19. | :45:20. | |
Chancellor was taking the Northern Powerhouse as seriously as I think | :45:21. | :45:25. | |
you should be. And what about the future of your company? It is a | :45:26. | :45:30. | |
success story here and Hull, but against a backdrop of decline, what | :45:31. | :45:34. | |
would you like to have heard? There is about seven times as much money | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
being spent in the south as the North, and I understand that for | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
historical reasons, but for a Chancellor trying to balance the | :45:43. | :45:45. | |
books and get value for money, ?1 spent in the North can go a lot | :45:46. | :45:50. | |
further, so I am pleased about skills, the apprenticeships. We have | :45:51. | :45:55. | |
made our own luck, we already have future experts in our programme. I | :45:56. | :45:59. | |
think he is trying, he could have been more direct, with a more overt | :46:00. | :46:03. | |
industrial strategy. I heard some tactics, I didn't hear an overall | :46:04. | :46:09. | |
vision for UK plc. On inflation, that figure going up to 2.4%, | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
worried about that? He was very honest in terms of the public | :46:15. | :46:18. | |
finances, I think perhaps less connected with what really might | :46:19. | :46:22. | |
happen in terms of inflation. We have 1000 containers a year coming | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
through, costs are going up significantly as a result of the | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
devaluation of the pound. Thank you very much, more reaction from local | :46:31. | :46:33. | |
businesses and from the Chambers of Commerce in the ground in Hull. | :46:34. | :46:43. | |
First of all, unemployment levels, Philip Hammond says that | :46:44. | :46:46. | |
unemployment has fallen fastest here as part of a group of areas in the | :46:47. | :46:51. | |
UK, put that into context. Well, Yorkshire and Humber is seeing a | :46:52. | :46:55. | |
reduction in unemployment, and these are good times for Hull, | :46:56. | :47:01. | |
particularly with the offshore wind revolution that is going on, | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
Siemens, the German company, is investing 300 million here, 1000 | :47:06. | :47:10. | |
jobs being created in wind turbines, and a Danish energy company are | :47:11. | :47:18. | |
spending ?6 billion as part of their offshore energy agenda, and that | :47:19. | :47:21. | |
will all help as part of growing this part of the world. That sounds | :47:22. | :47:26. | |
like a rosy picture, is that how you view it? It is difficult for small | :47:27. | :47:29. | |
businesses like me to get an audience with the likes of Siemens, | :47:30. | :47:35. | |
there is a lot of competition from national companies, so it is | :47:36. | :47:38. | |
difficult to fight for the revenue that is being generated locally. So | :47:39. | :47:47. | |
what do you say to someone like Sally who cannot get access to | :47:48. | :47:50. | |
funds? Philip Hammond is talking about a bit of money going towards | :47:51. | :47:54. | |
broadband investment, but is that really going to improve the | :47:55. | :47:59. | |
fortunes. The? It is important that politicians are careful when they | :48:00. | :48:01. | |
spend money on rebadged initiatives, businesses grow, they have to get | :48:02. | :49:49. | |
the balance right. Thank you very much for giving us your views. There | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
will be lots of changes that will affect you, the viewers, in finance, | :49:54. | :49:59. | |
let's find out more from our personal finance expert. | :50:00. | :50:05. | |
Yes, as we've been hearing, national insurance convolutions for the | :50:06. | :50:09. | |
self-employed will go up by one percentage point in April, and up | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
again next year by one percentage point up to 11%. The dividend | :50:13. | :50:17. | |
allowance is something that directors and shareholders of their | :50:18. | :50:22. | |
own companies can use to take ?5,000 with dividends out of their | :50:23. | :50:26. | |
companies as part of their personal allowance, that is going to be | :50:27. | :50:30. | |
reduced to ?2000 from next year. Laura has been in touch to say, I am | :50:31. | :50:35. | |
a single mum of two, children under the age of ten, was there anything | :50:36. | :50:42. | |
drastic for me? Nothing really drastic, Laura, but the personal | :50:43. | :50:50. | |
allowance will rise to ?11,500. That is the point above which you start | :50:51. | :50:55. | |
paying income tax, so there will be a little bit more money in your | :50:56. | :50:57. | |
pocket. For higher rate taxpayers, the rate is going to go, the | :50:58. | :51:04. | |
threshold is going to go from ?43,000 up to ?45,000, although that | :51:05. | :51:08. | |
will not apply in Scotland. And if you have money to save, from April, | :51:09. | :51:19. | |
you will get 2.2% on up to ?3000 of savings every year, although when it | :51:20. | :51:21. | |
was originally announced in the Autumn Statement, critics said it | :51:22. | :51:27. | |
was rather underwhelming. If you have got any questions for us, | :51:28. | :51:32. | |
please get in touch, 61124, or you can e-mail us. Back to you in | :51:33. | :51:37. | |
London. Thank you very much to everyone in | :51:38. | :51:46. | |
Hull, we will be back in a short while for more reaction. Delighted | :51:47. | :51:50. | |
to welcome to the studio of the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, | :51:51. | :51:53. | |
David Gauke, thank you for coming in. Here is a quote, a Conservative | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
judgment, you will be familiar with this quote, will not increase the | :51:58. | :52:04. | |
insurance in the next parliament, why has that manifesto promise been | :52:05. | :52:10. | |
broken? The intent of the manifesto commitment was legislated for, | :52:11. | :52:14. | |
covering class one national insurance contributions, the rate | :52:15. | :52:17. | |
that applies to employees. It did not cover class four, which is what | :52:18. | :52:22. | |
we are increasing today, and one of the reasons for that was, at the | :52:23. | :52:27. | |
same time we were reforming class two, more accurately abolishing | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
clash two, so you have got to remember that almost self-employed | :52:33. | :52:34. | |
people, if you look at all the reforms, the national insurance | :52:35. | :52:38. | |
contributions over the next couple of years, most of them will be | :52:39. | :52:40. | |
paying less in national insurance paying less in national insurance | :52:41. | :52:43. | |
contributions, not more. The relatively higher earners will be | :52:44. | :52:49. | |
paying more, that is true, but the majority of self-employed will pay | :52:50. | :52:53. | |
lower levels of NICs in three years' time. OK, so let's say that there | :52:54. | :53:03. | |
are four references to tax and your plans on tax in the manifesto, here | :53:04. | :53:07. | |
is another. We can commit to no increases in VAT, income tax or | :53:08. | :53:11. | |
national insurance. Tax rises on working people would harm our | :53:12. | :53:14. | |
economy, reduce living standards and cost jobs. Now, looking at what you | :53:15. | :53:20. | |
revealed today, notwithstanding the revealed | :53:21. | :53:24. | |
explanation you just given us, there is an increase in national insurance | :53:25. | :53:28. | |
which goes against at least the spirit of that, is that not right? | :53:29. | :53:32. | |
Well, what I would say, this is a context where there is, there is | :53:33. | :53:38. | |
quite substantial reform of national insurance contributions, with many | :53:39. | :53:41. | |
people winning from it, but we are also faced with a growing | :53:42. | :53:44. | |
unfairness, if you like, because what we now have is a situation | :53:45. | :53:49. | |
where national insurance contributions are contributions to | :53:50. | :53:53. | |
pay for certain benefits. If you are employed and self-employed, | :53:54. | :53:55. | |
traditionally there were quite big differences between the benefits | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
that you got, on things like the state pension, for example. Well, | :54:00. | :54:04. | |
actually, that difference is going from 2016, we brought in the new | :54:05. | :54:08. | |
state pension, so the self-employed are in as good a position as the | :54:09. | :54:12. | |
employed. We have said today that one of the outstanding differences | :54:13. | :54:16. | |
is on paternity and maternity pay, and we are looking to get rid of | :54:17. | :54:22. | |
that. And in a world where, essentially, you are getting the | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
same at the end of the process, you should put the same amount in. And | :54:28. | :54:31. | |
that is exactly what... Well, that is what we are moving to, there is | :54:32. | :54:35. | |
still a gap, but we are closing that gap, and I think it is right that we | :54:36. | :54:39. | |
do that. The Chancellor underlined that point, and you have again, but | :54:40. | :54:44. | |
I come back to you to say, you make a promise not to raise national | :54:45. | :54:50. | |
insurance, and then you raise it, that is the issue you have got. You | :54:51. | :54:52. | |
have explained the logic around it, have explained the logic around it, | :54:53. | :54:55. | |
fact that you made a promise and you fact that you made a promise and you | :54:56. | :55:00. | |
have not kept to it. We legislated, I took through the Bill that was | :55:01. | :55:06. | |
essentially... But you put national insurance up. At that time, we were | :55:07. | :55:11. | |
clear, within the legislation, we were focusing on the main rate | :55:12. | :55:13. | |
national insurance contributions, which was class one, the 12% rate. | :55:14. | :55:21. | |
That is not clear, is it? We also explained, my memory is we explained | :55:22. | :55:24. | |
to Parliament that because of the reforms that we were doing, and | :55:25. | :55:31. | |
because we needed to look at the issue, because of that potential | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
unfairness, we excluded class four from... We can commit to no | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
increases. I also come back to the point that this problem is growing, | :55:42. | :55:47. | |
and as I say, in a context where we are making a new announcement today, | :55:48. | :55:53. | |
looking at maternity pay, specifically. Employed, given that | :55:54. | :55:58. | |
we have essentially removed the differences. -- for self employed. | :55:59. | :56:05. | |
We have removed all the major differences in the entitlements that | :56:06. | :56:08. | |
the self-employed get versus the employed, and I think in the context | :56:09. | :56:12. | |
of also, we do need to pay for the additional spending on social care, | :56:13. | :56:17. | |
skills, schools. The Chancellor explain that. It is right that we | :56:18. | :56:23. | |
take this step to say that it is a relatively, if you look across the | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
board, it is a relatively modest increase in terms of the national | :56:29. | :56:31. | |
insurance contributions that are levied on the self employed, but I | :56:32. | :56:35. | |
do think, in the circumstances, it is the right step. But you are not | :56:36. | :56:40. | |
acknowledging even that it is a promise that you have not kept. The | :56:41. | :56:46. | |
intent was on the main rates. I think that was how we... Very | :56:47. | :56:51. | |
difficult for someone reading that, it would seem to be a bit of a | :56:52. | :56:54. | |
stretch for you to say that you are not aware of the technicalities | :56:55. | :56:59. | |
within the definition - we can commit to no increases, that is very | :57:00. | :57:05. | |
clear. As I say, for the majority of self-employed, they are actually | :57:06. | :57:10. | |
seeing a reduction in terms of their contributions, and if you take into | :57:11. | :57:15. | |
account personal allowance, all self-employed earnings up to over | :57:16. | :57:20. | |
?32,000 a year will be paying less. That is understood, just picking you | :57:21. | :57:26. | |
up on the commitment, OK Laura? Isn't it the thing, Minister, that | :57:27. | :57:30. | |
people understand when you change your mind, but what people find | :57:31. | :57:33. | |
frustrating is when you clearly break a promise? Well, I think, you | :57:34. | :57:41. | |
know, we have looked at the situation... And you have changed | :57:42. | :57:45. | |
your mind, but what about the manifesto commitment? As I say, I | :57:46. | :57:48. | |
think we have got a situation where we have closed the gap in terms of | :57:49. | :57:53. | |
the benefits entitlements, effectively eliminated it, that we | :57:54. | :57:56. | |
have got a growing situation with the cost, and a sense that if we | :57:57. | :58:03. | |
don't take action, and Matthew Taylor is doing a review of these | :58:04. | :58:05. | |
issues this specific manifesto promise, | :58:06. | :58:28. | |
that it was basically made up on the roof and maybe a rather silly | :58:29. | :58:31. | |
promise to make in the first place, that you would commit forevermore | :58:32. | :58:38. | |
not to raise income tax, VAT or national insurance? If you look at | :58:39. | :58:42. | |
our record as a government over this period of time, you will see it is a | :58:43. | :58:46. | |
record where we are cutting direct taxes, we are holding the VAT, we | :58:47. | :58:53. | |
are cutting taxes through the personal allowance razors, and when | :58:54. | :58:57. | |
it comes to those direct taxes, we are not looking for more, but there | :58:58. | :59:03. | |
is a very specific case, and the more we look at this, the more we | :59:04. | :59:07. | |
can see there is a problem that is going to build up, and it is a | :59:08. | :59:11. | |
long-term problem. If we don't take action on this, we do place an | :59:12. | :59:15. | |
unfair burden, you know, if you are employed... You have made that case, | :59:16. | :59:20. | |
Minister, would you rule out making other increases to VAT or income tax | :59:21. | :59:24. | |
Kaymer that is the question people will ask, you cannot blame them for | :59:25. | :59:29. | |
saying, hang on a second, how many of these other commitments, you | :59:30. | :59:34. | |
mentioned VAT and income tax, should we disregard the sections of the | :59:35. | :59:37. | |
manifesto because you have already wiped one of them out? What else is | :59:38. | :59:43. | |
up for grabs? We have legislated in this Parliament, we will not | :59:44. | :59:47. | |
increase VAT, income tax, we will not increase class one national | :59:48. | :59:51. | |
insurance contributions. We have legislated, we would have to take | :59:52. | :59:54. | |
additional legislative action to be able to do that. As I say, when we | :59:55. | :59:59. | |
took this matter through the House of Commons, back in 2015, I think, | :00:00. | :00:06. | |
we specifically excluded class four national insurance contributions | :00:07. | :00:08. | |
because at that point there clearly was an issue, and as I say, put it | :00:09. | :00:14. | |
in the context of abolishing class two, which, you know, provides a tax | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
cut for all the self-employed in isolation, but still means a net tax | :00:20. | :00:23. | |
reduction in terms of national insurance contributions for the | :00:24. | :00:24. | |
majority. How many people are affected, I | :00:25. | :00:33. | |
should have asked this earlier, by this change? In terms of the number | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
of people who are self-employed, I think it is about 4.2 million, the | :00:37. | :00:42. | |
majority of whom will be paying less national insurance contributions in | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
three years' time the layout paying today. Can we pause for a second, a | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
bit of housekeeping for me because viewers in Scotland are leaving us | :00:52. | :00:53. | |
now but thank you for joining us and we wish you a good afternoon. Here | :00:54. | :01:00. | |
on the BBC News Channel and BBC Two, we are carrying on, and son, your | :01:01. | :01:05. | |
questions to the Minister? This change of message about no raising | :01:06. | :01:07. | |
of national insurance and then saying you did not mean a particular | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
class. There is an issue that entrepreneurialism, the government | :01:14. | :01:15. | |
said start your own business and it worked, people could pay more tax | :01:16. | :01:17. | |
because they were taking more risk, they were starting the red | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
businesses and there's been an enormous increase in | :01:23. | :01:24. | |
self-employment, about 50% of all the jobs that have been created | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
since the crisis of 2008 at come from the self-employed. Now you are | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
saying you're going to come down like a time of bricks and tax some | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
of the growth and looking at some other numbers, bearing in mind you | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
are already going to cancel class two national insurance, this looks | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
like if you add together the cut in the dividend allowance and the class | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
four increase, it amounts to a ?2 billion tax in the next five years | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
on the self-employed. What kind of message is that? That was not the | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
message we were sold a few years ago. I don't accept the point. This | :01:57. | :02:02. | |
is a government which is very supportive of small businesses. We | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
have done a whole host of things, today, in terms of business rates | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
but in things like the employment allowance, the cuts in corporation | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
tax, some of the changes to capital gains tax are very helpful for | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
smaller businesses. Absolutely, we recognise the importance of the | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
entrepreneur to the economy. But these are the same small businesses | :02:24. | :02:26. | |
who are facing water enrolment, you have given them some relief on the | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
business rate increase but only delayed it and they will come down | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
the road at some point. They will be feeling bruised by that. And most | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
small businesses benefit from the business rate reduction. -- | :02:38. | :02:44. | |
re-evaluation. That is before you put in the permanent extensional | :02:45. | :02:46. | |
small business rate relief and so on. We've done a lot for small | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
businesses. But the point I will make is if you have got essentially | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
three people doing essentially the same job, one is employed, one is | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
self-employed but unincorporated and the other is working through their | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
own company, and they are paying very substantial differences in the | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
level of tax and national insurance contributions, that creates an | :03:09. | :03:17. | |
unfairness on the employed, the 85%, who pay substantially more in tax | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
and national insurance and that problem will grow. The easiest thing | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
in the world would be for a government, and it might be very | :03:26. | :03:28. | |
politically easy to pretend the problem doesn't exist and it won't | :03:29. | :03:31. | |
be there but it will grow and grow and only you know, there's nothing | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
wrong, in fact, it is no bad thing at all that we have large levels of | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
self-employment in this country but if it creates an unfair burden on | :03:41. | :03:47. | |
the employed, then you are storing up a problem and at some point, the | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
government has to act and better to act now than later. Some people | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
would say, and the point was made earlier, what you should do is look | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
at the employers who are using self-employed status of their | :03:59. | :04:01. | |
workers, I'm thinking of the delivery companies of this world, | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
who using the self-employed status for their benefit. Why did you start | :04:08. | :04:15. | |
there? Why did you go after the boys first? I can see why you make that | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
point and it is a fair challenge to us and the answer is, this is a much | :04:20. | :04:22. | |
more complicated problem. Matthew Taylor is undertaking a review for | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
the government. He has given us his interim findings in a letter today. | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
But he is reporting back later this year. I think it is right that we | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
look at some of those issues. Firstly, we have to deal with what | :04:37. | :04:39. | |
is described as falls self-employment but some of this is | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
genuine self-employment but it does not really fall within any of the | :04:44. | :04:46. | |
usual parameters and the economy is changing and there are different | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
jobs. As I say, if there is a vast disparity in the way in which we tax | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
those people, you know, it can create distortions and it can create | :04:56. | :04:58. | |
unfairness. It is right we address it but it is a more complicated one | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
and we need to make sure we take our time to get it right. What about | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
employers, will they also face tax increases into the future as you | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
review the situation? There's obviously clear disparities if you | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
do employ people on self-employed status. You get a great advantage as | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
an employer because of the reduced national insurance contributions and | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
pension contributions, no holiday entitlement, etc. Surely that has to | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
change as well? It comes back to what I said earlier, it is a really | :05:33. | :05:35. | |
complicated area and I think it is right we are looking at this. But | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
with a view to increasing the burden is on employers? That is a huge | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
thing to take on. In terms of shifting it, the reality is that if | :05:44. | :05:50. | |
you are an employer with employees, you pay national insurance | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
a substantial. If you go down a a substantial. If you go down a | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
different route, you might not pay anything at all and again, that is a | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
similar type of distortion, a similar type of unfairness, you | :06:03. | :06:03. | |
like. quite carefully. But with a view to | :06:04. | :06:14. | |
changing it, clearly? With a view to trying to level the playing field. | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
Is that enough you have done now, to get rid of this disparity, as you | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
see it, between being self-employed and employed? Is that the end of it | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
now? Can you remake your manifesto pledge, even though you did not | :06:27. | :06:36. | |
stick to the first one, can you make a pledge for no more increases in | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
national insurance? I think we have got the balance right now. So no | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
more increases? I think we have the balance right now and Matthew | :06:43. | :06:44. | |
Taylor's report, we have to wait to see what it was a but we have tilled | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
the balance in a direction which I think is fairer for those who | :06:48. | :06:49. | |
eventually see themselves paying eventually see themselves paying | :06:50. | :06:51. | |
quite a lot more if they are employed than if they were | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
self-employed. We are battling the clock minister and you need to go | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
going to say, everyone will be going to say, everyone will be | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
looking very carefully at the legislation from that tax law in | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
2015. I'm interested, briefly, beyond painting a broad canvas at | :07:08. | :07:08. | |
the start, hardly any mention of the start, hardly any mention of | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
Brexit from the Chancellor. Was he deliberately tiptoeing around the | :07:14. | :07:14. | |
subject because it is a controversial on the benches behind | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
him? I don't think so, but Brexit is a massive issue for the country and | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
the government but we also have to get on and do the other things. We | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
care system that is working care system that is working | :07:27. | :07:30. | |
properly. We have to make sure we invest in skills. We have to make | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
sure we have sound public finances, thinking about the long term there. | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
Today was a day where, I know everyone is very focused on Brexit | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
but today was the day when we needed to address some of the other issues | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
that we have as a country and I the Chancellor did that very well. Are | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
you not worried that the numbers suggest wages are still going to be | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
falling back and National Living Wage is predicted to be less than it | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
was the last time? People will still be really feeling the pinch for a | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
long time according to today's numbers. The way we address that and | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
get living standards improving on a sustainable basis is about improving | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
productivity. That means the investment in infrastructure we saw | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
in the Autumn Statement, the investment in skills we saw today, a | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
competitive tax system, which, when you look at encouraging investment, | :08:20. | :08:21. | |
what we have done in terms of corporation tax. All those things | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
will drive up productivity and living standards and that is the way | :08:26. | :08:27. | |
we can ensure we are a prosperous country. Minister, good of you to | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
comment as usual on Budget day and thank you for fielding our question. | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
David Gauke, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury. | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
I will remind you very quickly of the today as we see them. We have | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
been talking about national insurance for self-employed workers, | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
rising to 10% in April next year and 11% in April 2000 19. The additional | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
funding for social care, we did not discuss that but we mentioned it | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
earlier, an additional ?2 billion of funding over the next three years | :08:57. | :08:59. | |
for social care in England because we know of the huge pressures on the | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
system and funding announced four new grammar schools and new free | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
schools, 110 of them in England, very much one of the Prime | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
Minister's principal projects, something she is very keen to | :09:11. | :09:16. | |
promote. The other main measures, ?300 million fund for firms facing | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
large business rate increases. Simon was talking about the measures to | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
try to relieve some of the pressure after that revaluation. As part of | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
that, a ?1000 business rate discount for pubs with a rateable value of | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
under ?100,000, which is the vast majority of pubs in England. And the | :09:33. | :09:38. | |
National savings bond for savers, as interest rates are very low, this | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
will pay 2.2% on deposit up to ?3000 from April. Lots of other measures, | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
too, but we have condensed that to half a dozen at this point. Let's go | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
straight out to the green outside parliament and join Jane. | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
some of the issues with my guess you have joined me. I should explain | :09:59. | :10:05. | |
there's a very noisy pensions protest behind me. Douglas Carswell | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
of Ukip and Tim Farron of the Liberal Democrats, I hope we can | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
just about he read other thing! Douglas Carswell, you have said | :10:13. | :10:15. | |
quite a few times that you hoped Phillip Hammond would be more | :10:16. | :10:18. | |
fiscally responsible than his predecessor. Do you think he has | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
been? I'm a bit worried that the amount of public debt is heading | :10:23. | :10:30. | |
back up again. The best that can be said for this Budget is that it is | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
very dull and not flashy but it's not fundamentally sorting out the | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
biggest problem we face which is the accumulation of big amounts of | :10:37. | :10:38. | |
public debt. At the same time as the public debt is going back up, he is | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
managing to attack the self-employed and self-employed national insurance | :10:44. | :10:46. | |
contributions. I'm not happy about either of those things. Tim Farron, | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
you are nodding through some of that. Yes, the obvious being from | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
the Budget is you cannot have well funded health services, social care | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
or education or indeed to solve the problems of the things we are | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
complaining about today with a hard Brexit. You choose to leave the | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
single market and the customs union, which was not on the ballot paper, | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
then there is a cost, 100 billion extra borrowing and 60 billion war | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
chest to pay for the loss of trade and income and tax receipts relating | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
to point that out. We think today, to point that out. We think today, | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
if you look at the attack on business in particular, the little | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
sticking plaster, if that am of the relief to those who will be hit by | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
business rate increases is nothing at all and if you look at the impact | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
of the national insurance contribution rises on self-employed | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
people, it is immense. Something like one in four people in my | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
constituency the South Lakes are self-employed and it will be huge | :11:42. | :11:44. | |
blow to them. It seems to me that we have a government who thinks they | :11:45. | :11:46. | |
can take business for granted because they have a dreadful | :11:47. | :11:49. | |
opposition who does not keep them on their toes. We'll come back to some | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
of that but isn't that part of the point, Douglas | :11:54. | :12:05. | |
Carswell, Philip Hammond has to be cautious because he has to retain | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
the war chest? By definition, we don't know what is coming. It is not | :12:10. | :12:12. | |
a case of Brexit, and at some point, the Japanese and Italian bond | :12:13. | :12:14. | |
markets are going to go pop and governments will find... But it is | :12:15. | :12:16. | |
another layer of uncertainty? The gross predictions have gone up from | :12:17. | :12:23. | |
1.4%, to 2.2%. It is pretty healthy growth. Just south of 2% for the | :12:24. | :12:28. | |
next four or five years. Given the OBR's success rate at forecasting | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
these things, I'm not sure we can take anything beyond the next 18 | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
months seriously. But in terms of growth projections, there is some | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
pretty good news today. Tim Farron, can we find some positives? Your | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
party were very keen to see more investment in health and social care | :12:45. | :12:46. | |
and quite a lot of money coming forward for social care. Do you | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
think the government finally thinks this is an area that needs tackling? | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
?2 billion sounded good until he said it was over three years, we | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
need something like 4 billion every year as a minimum so it is a poor | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
but it is a reminder of what limited room for manoeuvre he has got. As | :13:03. | :13:09. | |
Douglas pointed out, we are at the mercy | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
powerful market which is the 120 miles away across the Channel. I'd | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
rather not fight the referendum but I'm happy to. What this Budget | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
really tells us is that the significant economic decisions will | :13:24. | :13:26. | |
be taken in about six months' time. This very big decisions on business | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
rates, the fact there is no substantive answer to the big | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
question, how we fund social care, I think, in a sense, this Budget kicks | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
things into touch to be deferred in six months' time. Isn't that partly | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
because we are now heading into an autumn Budget as well? There is | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
great uncertainty as well. The point about growth is significant and the | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
growth we have, which is modest but it's there, is based almost entirely | :13:51. | :13:59. | |
on consumer spending and the great fear about that is, as inflation | :14:00. | :14:01. | |
goes up, which is predicted, we have all seen petrol prices go up by 15% | :14:02. | :14:04. | |
over the last six to 12 months, those kind of things stop people | :14:05. | :14:06. | |
spending money and if your entire economy is based on consumer | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
spending, you are in trouble which is why he needed to invest for the | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
long-term and he has not done that. Is there some better news much | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
longer term, looking at the education announcements, T-levels, a | :14:17. | :14:19. | |
lot of rhetoric about making Britain fighting fit for the future, I mean, | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
a recognition that vocational a recognition that vocational | :14:24. | :14:25. | |
qualifications are worthy and imported is a good thing? Important, | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
and to blur the line between vocational and academic education is | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
a long sought call that I share with the Chancellor. The problem we have | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
in all of this is that it is new gimmickry, new words and slogans | :14:39. | :14:40. | |
that don't mean much different to what we have had in the past, | :14:41. | :14:43. | |
replacing qualifications that already have a good brand | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
recognition with employers, for instance. The real issue, if you | :14:48. | :14:55. | |
about money, 3 billion will be lost about money, 3 billion will be lost | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
funding and give them a third of the funding and give them a third of the | :14:59. | :15:01. | |
Berlin to pet projects like grammar schools to free schools, whether you | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
agree with them a lot, it is a diversion from the real problem | :15:06. | :15:07. | |
which is giving teachers the tools they need to teach our kids. | :15:08. | :15:15. | |
Isn't it about diversification? Isn't it about saying stem topics | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
are very important, we need to get more children interested in that, | :15:21. | :15:24. | |
particularly girls on International Women's Day, and to make Britain a | :15:25. | :15:30. | |
modern, forward-looking country? Vocational education is critically | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
important, and that intent within this Budget is that we should | :15:34. | :15:37. | |
welcome that, but the detail is worrying, some of it. The money is | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
going to the pet projects, the crazy thing is that some wonk in the DfE | :15:42. | :15:50. | |
has dreamt up, and now every teacher has to live with it. Just a pet | :15:51. | :15:58. | |
project, the approach to education? In my constituency, the Government | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
managed to spend ?3 million on a Bradley is cool that they closed | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
after three years. Spending more money differently is very welcome. | :16:05. | :16:11. | |
-- on a brand-new school. We need to make sure these reforms don't just | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
improve education in some of the better off parts of London. Douglas | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
Carswell, Tim Farron, thanks very much for joining us. Much more from | :16:21. | :16:29. | |
a very noisy College Green to come. Quite noisy at there, we heard the | :16:30. | :16:32. | |
guests loud and clear, thank you very much. We will be talking to the | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
SNP in just a moment, but I thought I would take you through some of the | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
figures to do with precise duties on tobacco and alcohol, because they | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
were not specified in the budget speech. Why don't we take you | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
through them? By the way, it is also important to underline that some of | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
these changes were put in place in 2014, so they are just coming | :16:57. | :16:58. | |
through the system now much they were not all announced in one go | :16:59. | :17:04. | |
today. But, for example, a packet of 20 cigarettes will cost 35p more | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
from 6pm this evening, as a result of changes in the Budget. It will | :17:10. | :17:16. | |
cost, actually, the changes that were put in place in 2014, those are | :17:17. | :17:24. | |
still coming through. It will cost 42p for a 30 grams packet of | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
hand-rolling tobacco. A pint of beer will cost 2p more from Monday, and | :17:28. | :17:35. | |
other changes to duty on our colour coming through. A bottle of whisky, | :17:36. | :17:48. | |
36 sense the Mike -- 36p more. Those changes coming through from Monday. | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
Not all of those are measures that were announced today, some were | :17:52. | :17:57. | |
brought in two years ago. I will go straight to the Houses of | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
Parliament, we are joined by the SNP's Roger Mullin, thank you for | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
joining us, congratulations on the best tie in the House of Commons | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
today, no question about that! Thank you very much indeed! Why don't I | :18:10. | :18:14. | |
ask you first, Roger, what is your main take on the Budget today? We | :18:15. | :18:19. | |
had the announcement on extra money for the Scottish Government. My main | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
take is the Chancellor is living in a parallel universe. How on earth | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
anyone can talk about the Budget for an hour and not mention the biggest | :18:29. | :18:31. | |
challenges facing the UK is beyond me, no mention of Brexit, no mention | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
of how he will fill the gap in the loss of revenues in agriculture or | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
the university sector. And doing absolutely nothing to tackle the | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
problem of austerity on the one hand, which the Government has | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
chosen, and the squeezing of savings of pensioners and the like on the | :18:51. | :18:53. | |
other hand, created by the Bank of England policies. So in every major | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
issue, he failed to comment. Given that he outlined the nature of the | :18:58. | :19:04. | |
debt that the UK is an two, and continues to be an two, did you | :19:05. | :19:07. | |
really think he had the leeway to address those problems? -- be under. | :19:08. | :19:20. | |
He has to address the issues of leaving the European Union, because | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
he keeps telling us we are leaving the European Union, and I have | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
looked at some of the documents accompanying the speech, and his | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
assumptions are wholly flawed, parallel straight lines, her weight | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
of them saying, we don't know how to plan for the future, therefore we | :19:37. | :19:38. | |
are doing nothing about facing the challenges of Brexit. -- a way. I | :19:39. | :19:48. | |
think this is a deeply worrying Budget, deeply worrying as we are | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
about to trigger Article 50 and get negotiations started to exit. He did | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
mention North Sea oil and gas, he talked about tapering revenue from | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
there. I'm just wondering, in the light of that, do you agree with | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
some of your own colleagues in the SNP who think that your economic | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
case for independence should no longer include oil revenues because | :20:11. | :20:13. | |
of the fact that they have dipped so significantly? I think what the | :20:14. | :20:21. | |
argument is, looking at the future, we can base our economy very | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
strongly, the whole breadth of the economy, and I'll is, in that sense, | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
a bonus. I think there has been a bit of misrepresentation. I have no | :20:33. | :20:35. | |
problem with looking to the future and making sure the revenues from | :20:36. | :20:42. | |
oil properly husbanded for the first time. Correct me if I am wrong, I | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
think Andrew Wilson said that making oil numbers a central place in 2014 | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
was a mistake, so do you agree with that? The logic would be that you | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
move away when you make a case in future. I prefer to look to the | :20:57. | :21:02. | |
future, I don't share Andrew's interpretation of 2014, but that is | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
immaterial, what and who myself think about that. What is | :21:07. | :21:08. | |
is how we build the future, and we is how we build the future, and we | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
want to create a future for Scotland that is built on growth in across | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
the whole breadth of the economy. the whole breadth of the economy. | :21:19. | :21:20. | |
That is the really important message. So a case for independence, | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
whenever it comes again, we'll have to partly depend on the whole | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
question of oil revenues, as it did in 2014? -- will have to. It will | :21:29. | :21:35. | |
have to depend on the entire Scottish economy, it would be | :21:36. | :21:38. | |
foolish to say otherwise. There are so money facets to it, it is | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
changing so fast, we have one of the fastest-growing new technology | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
sectors in Europe, so many riches in terms of whisky, which I see they | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
are bumping up duty on again today. So there is such strength across the | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
economy, to focus only on one aspect would not be sensible, would not be | :21:57. | :22:02. | |
in Scotland's interest. You mention the big Brexit issue clearly, and | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
there was some kind of mention right at the start, but you are right, | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
Roger, it didn't feature later on. In the context of Brexit, given that | :22:12. | :22:14. | |
your party conferences happening very soon, when can we expect a more | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
clear signal, if you like, from Nicola Sturgeon and from your other | :22:20. | :22:24. | |
colleagues about your plans in terms of revisiting the whole independence | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
issue? It depends on two things, Huw, when Article 50 is going to be | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
would be foolish to make any would be foolish to make any | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
definitive comment until after that period. Secondly, it crucially | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
the UK Government to the Scottish the UK Government to the Scottish | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
Government's proposals of last year. We know neither of those things, so | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
it would be sensible to wait until we get both of those points resolved | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
before we make a final decision. I heard one minister recently saying, | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
a Westminster ministers saying that it would make no sense to have an | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
independence referendum until you saw the shape of the final Brexit | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
deal, which of course is 2019 or thereabouts. What is your thought on | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
that? We are going to have to see the final deal 18 months in, because | :23:14. | :23:18. | |
it is a six-month period for the deal to be approved by all the | :23:19. | :23:21. | |
countries in Europe, and it is going to be in the public domain. We will | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
know in about 18 months what the shape of the exiting deal is going | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
to be, so it won't take the full two years for that. Secondly, we are | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
going to get information as things come along, we are going to have to | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
keep other institutions informed, like the Council of Ministers. I | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
think we will have a very good sense of where the UK is going, we will | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
begin to get that within a few months of the triggering of Article | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
50. Let's talk about the other sense, your sense of where public | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
opinion is moving in Scotland right now, what is your sense of that? | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
Well, I can only judge it on two things, the most recent poll that I | :24:02. | :24:05. | |
am aware of suggested 49% would vote yes, a big improvement on when Alex | :24:06. | :24:12. | |
Salmond triggered the last election referendum, 28% yes at that time. | :24:13. | :24:15. | |
The second thing is what is happening on the ground. My view on | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
the ground is that there is an expectation that there has got to be | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
a change. And in the future. Whether that change is the UK Government | :24:25. | :24:30. | |
allowing us to stay in the single market, or whether we move towards | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
an independence referendum, in some senses, that is in the choosing of | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
the UK Government. Will they man up and give us a bespoke deal? Very | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
interesting, as ever, Roger, thank you very much for joining us. Roger | :24:45. | :24:53. | |
Mullin is of the SNP giving us is responses to the Budget and the big | :24:54. | :24:56. | |
question of if and when the First Minister will come forward with a | :24:57. | :25:03. | |
second independence referendum. It is a good moment to go back to Hull | :25:04. | :25:10. | |
and joint Jo. Yes, Huw, you know how much | :25:11. | :25:15. | |
politicians love to Don hard hats and high-vis jackets. Well, that is | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
exactly what these ladies here are packaging up for distribution. | :25:22. | :25:24. | |
Safety equipment and protective clothing. This is a company that has | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
been in the same family for four generations. It is a success story | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
in Hull, it employs about a dividend 50 people. We have talked already to | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
the managing director, let's find out what other people in the area | :25:39. | :25:44. | |
think to Philip Hammond's statement. Jo is a cafe owner, Darren is the | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
deputy leader of Hull City Council. One of the big issues that was going | :25:50. | :25:54. | |
to come up in this statement, this Budget, was social care and the | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
pressures on it. For a council like yours, were you relieved to hear | :25:59. | :26:01. | |
there will be a cash injection? We were relieved partly, the sector has | :26:02. | :26:08. | |
lost ?4.6 billion, so the idea of putting 1 billion back in next year | :26:09. | :26:13. | |
is welcome, but it is not enough, and whilst we welcome that, we look | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
forward to the green paper that they are talking about, because there | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
needs to be urgent reform for adult social care. As we know, when adult | :26:22. | :26:26. | |
social care sneezes, the whole NHS catches a cold, and it is important | :26:27. | :26:32. | |
that we recognise that most of the precepts of those councils up and | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
down the land has only just said the increases in the living wage. We | :26:37. | :26:39. | |
need new money for health and social care to replace the money taken out | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
in the last five years. So you are waiting to hear about the long-term | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
solutions, the proposals being put forward by the Government. As a | :26:48. | :26:52. | |
local business, Hull is UK City of Culture, that must be good for | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
business. Definitely, it is uplifting. It is good, people are | :26:57. | :27:04. | |
more positive, the business is doing well. Will that be enough to offset | :27:05. | :27:07. | |
the rise in the national living wage? That is something that was | :27:08. | :27:09. | |
announced in the autumn but will come into force next month. The good | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
news about business rates will help offset that, and the business doing | :27:16. | :27:17. | |
so well will obviously be a good thing as well. We may have to | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
increase prices, hopefully not much. I employ ten people. Are you | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
thinking of expanding? Not in the near future. What about information? | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
The projection is it will go up to about 2.4%, the highest it has been | :27:33. | :27:38. | |
in quite a while, what impact does that have? We will have to increase | :27:39. | :27:41. | |
prices in line with that, because otherwise we will not make any | :27:42. | :27:46. | |
money, basically! So it will make quite a difference. What about other | :27:47. | :27:52. | |
money coming into Hull? There was an announcement on broadband, 90 | :27:53. | :27:54. | |
million going into the Northern Powerhouse in terms of transport, | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
that must be welcomed. Yes, but it is a bit timid, really, because we | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
as a council have invested ?70 million in the infrastructure of the | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
city, and businesses have invested about ?1 billion. In that | :28:09. | :28:12. | |
perspective, it is a very small amount nationally. What we need to | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
do is see real evidence on the ground. There is not even | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
electrified rail between Hull and Selby, that has to be a priority, | :28:21. | :28:25. | |
because if the Chancellor is serious about productivity, electrified | :28:26. | :28:28. | |
trail between Hull and Selby, connecting our railways to the rest | :28:29. | :28:31. | |
of the country, is a must for this area. I wanted to see less timid | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
capital investment, because the time to invest in infrastructure is | :28:37. | :28:42. | |
during a recession. What about the issue of self-employed people? | :28:43. | :28:44. | |
National insurance contributions going up, maybe a breach of a | :28:45. | :28:48. | |
manifesto commitment, will that affect you or people you know? Some | :28:49. | :28:55. | |
people I know, yes, definitely. I am employed by my company, so I pay | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
national insurance like anybody else does. A lot of people will be | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
affected. Amongst your friends, your family, are they mainly self | :29:05. | :29:09. | |
employed? Are people working for themselves? Half and half. So barely | :29:10. | :29:17. | |
evenly split? What about UK City of Culture, good news all round? | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
in the first few weeks, and people in the first few weeks, and people | :29:22. | :29:24. | |
are talking about Hull for all the right reasons, and on the BBC | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
weather map every night! People know where it is, come and visit. A | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
positive on the BBC Weather map! There are issues coming into force | :29:37. | :29:40. | |
from a personal finance perspective, we can go to Ruth Alexander. | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
We have had some questions from the audience. Robert asks what the | :29:46. | :29:51. | |
government is doing to encourage people to save? Something the | :29:52. | :29:54. | |
Chancellor mentioned and something he has previously announced was the | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
national savings bond where you will be able to save up to ?3000 per year | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
and get 2.2% on it. Interest rates are not high so it does not sound | :30:05. | :30:07. | |
that great, though. Valerie wants to know, what about increases in petrol | :30:08. | :30:13. | |
and beer and spirits? Fuel duty will remain frozen for the seventh year | :30:14. | :30:16. | |
in a row and alcohol duty will rise by inflation from Monday, so about | :30:17. | :30:21. | |
2p on a pint of beer and about 30p on a litre of whiskey. We would love | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
to hear more of your question so get in touch, text 61124, e-mail us at | :30:27. | :30:32. | |
[email protected] or tweet us. Thank you very much to Ruth and Jo | :30:33. | :30:42. | |
Coburn and we will be back in Hull in a short while. The time is one | :30:43. | :30:47. | |
minute past three and this is the point at which we say goodbye to | :30:48. | :30:50. | |
viewers on the BBC News channel but I will see you at 5pm, hopefully. | :30:51. | :30:53. | |
Thank you for joining us and | :30:54. | :30:55. |