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A moment of history as the UK votes to leave the European Union. | :00:07. | :00:14. | |
After more than four decades in the EU, a decisive vote as more | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
than 17 million people vote to leave. | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
David Cameron says he will now stand down as Prime Minister. | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
I will do everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
But I do not think it would be right for me to try to be the captain | :00:29. | :00:33. | |
that steers our country to its next destination. | :00:34. | :00:40. | |
There was jubilation in the Leave camp. | :00:41. | :00:41. | |
Ukip's Nigel Farage called it a victory for ordinary people, | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
against the big banks, big business and big politics. | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
Nothing will change over the short term except that work will have | :00:50. | :00:52. | |
to begin on how to give effect to the will of the people, | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
and to extracate this country from the supranational system. | :00:56. | :01:04. | |
Dramatic falls for both the pound and the markets following the news, | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
but the Bank of England says it's taking all necessary steps | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
And the future of the UK is again on the table as Scotland's First | :01:10. | :01:16. | |
Minister says a second independence referendum is highly likely | :01:17. | :01:18. | |
after Scots voted overwhelmingly to Remain. | :01:19. | :01:25. | |
It is a significant and material change in circumstances, | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
and it is therefore a statement of the obvious that the option | :01:29. | :01:30. | |
of a second referendum must be on the table. | :01:31. | :01:41. | |
Yesterday's vote has claimed the scalp of the Prime Minister and | :01:42. | :01:46. | |
dropped the political establishment at Westminster. I will be talking to | :01:47. | :01:53. | |
leading politicians and commentators as British politics are absorbed | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
this shock result. I'm Matthew Amroliwala, life in | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
Brussels. The shock waves of reverberating around this place. | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
This simple question, what happens now? | :02:07. | :02:15. | |
I'm Robert Hall, life in the Fenland town of Wisbech, a region which | :02:16. | :02:18. | |
polled one of the highest pro Brexit results. | :02:19. | :02:33. | |
After more than 40 years, Britain has voted to end its membership | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
The vote was decisive - 52% chose to leave the EU, | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
Within hours, David Cameron announced he was standing | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
He said he'd stay in Number Ten for the next few months | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
but that the country required fresh leadership. | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
Boris Johnson, who campaigned for a Leave vote, said the UK now | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
had a glorious opportunity to pass its own laws, | :03:00. | :03:01. | |
set its own taxes and find its voice in the world again. | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
Let's take a closer look at the final result which, | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
shows that Leave secured its victory by a margin of more | :03:11. | :03:12. | |
In total, 17.4 million people voted for the UK to leave the EU. | :03:13. | :03:21. | |
That compares with the 16.1 million voters who backed Remain. | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
More than 72% of eligible voters took part. | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
In England, more than 15 million people voted for the UK | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
to leave the European Union, 13.2 million people backed Remain. | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
In Scotland every voting area came out in favour of Remain. | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
62% of Scottish voters backed Remain, with 38% | :03:45. | :03:47. | |
In Wales, Leave won over 52% of the vote and secured the most | :03:48. | :03:54. | |
votes in all but five of the 22 counting areas. | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
In Northern Ireland, which shares a land border | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
with the European Union, voters backed Remain - | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
with 55% of voters choosing to remain in the EU with 45% voting | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
Those are the big numbers, those are the numbers which tell you what has | :04:11. | :04:21. | |
happened in this seismic electoral event. | :04:22. | :04:23. | |
We'll have all the reaction from Westminster the City | :04:24. | :04:25. | |
and from Europe, but first our political correspondent | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
Carole Walker reports on the dramatic events so far. | :04:31. | :04:32. | |
The people have voted for a new destiny for Britain. | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
This means that the UK has voted to leave the European Union. | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
It is a decision few predicted at the start of this campaign. | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
A decision which has forced the Prime Minister out of office. | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
There was no hiding the emotion as David Cameron with his wife, | :04:49. | :04:51. | |
The British people have voted to leave the European Union | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
He had fought and lost the battle to persuade the country to stay | :04:58. | :05:04. | |
I fought this campaign in the only way I know how which is to say | :05:05. | :05:12. | |
directly and passionately what I think and feel, | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
But the British people have made a very clear decision to take | :05:16. | :05:24. | |
a different path and as such, I think the country requires | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
fresh leadership to take it in this direction. | :05:28. | :05:33. | |
I will do everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship | :05:34. | :05:36. | |
over the coming weeks and months, but I do not think it would be right | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
for me to try to be the captain that steers our country | :05:40. | :05:42. | |
From the moment the results starting coming in, just after midnight, | :05:43. | :05:49. | |
The total number of votes cast in favour of Leave was 82,000. | :05:50. | :05:59. | |
By the end of the night, Leave had won a clean sweep | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
across the north of England, the Midlands, the east | :06:03. | :06:03. | |
London was the only region of England to support | :06:04. | :06:09. | |
The result in Flintshire reflected the outcome across Wales. | :06:10. | :06:17. | |
But Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU, | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
Sinn Fein said it intensifies the case for a vote | :06:24. | :06:25. | |
on whether Northern Ireland should leave the United Kingdom. | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
And Scotland, as expected, voted by a clear majority | :06:32. | :06:33. | |
Scotland's First Minister said it was democratically unacceptable | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
for it to be taken out of the EU against its will. | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
Scotland does now face that prospect. | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
It is a significant and material change in circumstances | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
and it is therefore, a statement of the obvious | :06:51. | :06:52. | |
that the option of a second referendum must be on the table | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
But at Westminster, jubilant Leave campaigners have been celebrating. | :06:56. | :07:05. | |
Nigel Farage said he was thrilled that the country had | :07:06. | :07:07. | |
decided to break free from what he called a failing, | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
17 million people have said we must leave the European Union. | :07:11. | :07:16. | |
A Government that gets on with the job. | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
A Government that begins the renegotiation of our | :07:23. | :07:24. | |
Boris Johnson struggled through the throng at his home. | :07:25. | :07:32. | |
Then paid tribute to the Prime Minister | :07:33. | :07:33. | |
for his bravery in giving the British people their say. | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
I believe we now have a glorious opportunity. | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
We can pass our laws and set our taxes entirely according | :07:41. | :07:42. | |
We can control our own borders in a way that is not discriminatory | :07:43. | :07:51. | |
but fair and balanced and take the wind out of the sails | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
of the extremists and those who would play | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
But in the City, shares plunged and the pound fell dramatically | :07:59. | :08:06. | |
despite all the attempts at reassurance from political | :08:07. | :08:08. | |
leaders and the Bank of England which promised to take whatever | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
measures where necessary to support the economy. | :08:14. | :08:20. | |
And there are now questions over the future of the Labour leader, | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
who has been blamed for a lacklustre campaign to remain in the EU | :08:24. | :08:26. | |
which failed to convince many Labour supporters. | :08:27. | :08:28. | |
Clearly, there are some very difficult days ahead. | :08:29. | :08:31. | |
The value of the pound has already fallen and there will therefore be | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
job consequences as a result of this decision. | :08:35. | :08:43. | |
REPORTER: The Prime Minister has resigned. | :08:44. | :08:45. | |
No reaction, but two senior Labour MPs have tabled a motion | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
of no confidence in Mr Corbyn's leadership. | :08:50. | :08:50. | |
I think Jeremy Corbyn should resign as leader of the Labour Party. | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
This was a test of leadership, the European referendum campaign. | :08:55. | :08:56. | |
He was very half-hearted in the leadership he gave | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
For Britain, for Europe as the country embarks | :09:02. | :09:09. | |
on a new and uncertain future outside the EU | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
That scene played at several hours ago when the Prime Minister and his | :09:14. | :09:31. | |
wife appeared in Downing Street. With me is our chief political | :09:32. | :09:32. | |
correspondent Vicki Young. Lots to discuss. Let's start with | :09:33. | :09:42. | |
that statement, the cold, -- Bertone, of course the content. It | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
is an incredible moment. Somebody said to me that when things change | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
in Westminster they change very fast. David Cameron just over a year | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
ago had won and unexpected election victory, basking in the glory of | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
that, here he is on the verge of tears saying he will stand down. I | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
don't pick anybody thought he would hang on for long if he lost the | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
referendum, there were some viewers get to Tory MPs who said, you have | :10:07. | :10:12. | |
this day, you have to lead the negotiations -- there were some | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
Eurosceptic Tory MPs. He has been rejected, you must not going to | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
spend the next year or two going through that process -- he was not | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
going to spend. And his legacy, what all prime ministers worry about, | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
potentially the possible break-up of the UK, leaving the European Union, | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
changes to how we trade, travel, talk to people, it was a big gamble | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
which simply did not pay. You mention some of the Eurosceptics who | :10:41. | :10:43. | |
said that the Prime Minister hang on. I could go Van Boris Johnson | :10:44. | :10:49. | |
among them. They had their own statements this morning, very solemn | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
intone -- Baikal Gove and Boris Johnson among them. -- Michael Gove. | :10:54. | :11:01. | |
Listening to them, it was like they had lost. Contrasting it with Nigel | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
Fry Zhu told me he had kippers and champagne for breakfast, he was | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
ecstatic. -- with Nigel Farage, who told me. They seemed surprised and | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
shocked. Michael Gove is a very close friend of David Cameron. Boris | :11:17. | :11:26. | |
Johnson, I think there is fear among the Conservatives about the | :11:27. | :11:28. | |
divisiveness not just within the party, the tone of the campaign, I | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
have seen a Conservative minister berating her Eurosceptic colleagues, | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
saying, you have made immigration a dirty word. Boris Johnson is trying | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
to appeal to young people, liberals, those people who voted Remain, he is | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
trying to say that he has a different vision for Britain than | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
that of Nigel Farage, he is trying to seize that mantle. He says he | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
wants to have a compassionate conservatism, the question is | :11:58. | :11:59. | |
whether he will try to be the next Prime Minister. Big questions, we | :12:00. | :12:07. | |
will talk in a while, not least about the future of the UK. | :12:08. | :12:09. | |
As the result became clear overnight, the pound | :12:10. | :12:11. | |
suffered its biggest drop on record - at one point falling to levels | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
The Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, has sought to reassure | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
financial markets and said the Bank was well prepared. | :12:19. | :12:21. | |
Our economics correspondent Andy Verity reports. | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
Panic on the markets on a scale not seen since | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
The fear that this could turn into another one drove the pound | :12:29. | :12:34. | |
down 12% this morning, the biggest drop in half a century, | :12:35. | :12:37. | |
and when it opened at 8am, the stock market crashed. | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
The same man who warned Brexit could trigger a recession was now | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
seeking to prevent one through reassurance, | :12:45. | :12:46. | |
announcing he'd lend up to a quarter of a trillion pounds more to banks | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
Her Majesty's Treasury and the Bank of England have engaged in extensive | :12:50. | :12:59. | |
contingency planning and the Chancellor and I have | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
remained in close contact, including through the night | :13:03. | :13:04. | |
To be clear, the Bank of England will not hesitate to take additional | :13:05. | :13:12. | |
measures as required as markets adjust and as the UK | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
Mark Carney's intervention helped to stem the panic and both the pound | :13:16. | :13:23. | |
and the share market recovered nearly half their losses. | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
He deviated from his doomsday message from just a couple of weeks | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
ago to try and reassure the markets and also really to say | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
that he will do whatever it takes to prop up the UK economy | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
The markets love it when the central bank says we will do | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
But in Europe, shares were hit even harder. | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
Business people who count on the single market are worried. | :13:48. | :13:49. | |
The business community is really disturbed and disappointed by this. | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
We're going to have a period of volatility and instability | :13:53. | :13:58. | |
and uncertainty, and we see already in the markets things | :13:59. | :14:00. | |
that we were most concerned about, a drop in the value of sterling, | :14:01. | :14:03. | |
in the stock market and not just in the UK, around the world. | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
The immediate effect is on this, the value of the pound. | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
If you're a tourist coming to this bureau de change in London, | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
you'll get more pounds for your euros or your dollars. | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
On the other hand, if you are going on holiday will get more euros | :14:17. | :14:19. | |
Exporters may be more competitive because people abroad can buy more | :14:20. | :14:27. | |
of their goods for the same money, but imported prices, | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
goods coming into the country, they'll get more expensive. | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
Most economists warned Brexit would mean a weaker pound, | :14:34. | :14:35. | |
higher prices and slower growth, but no one's saying "I told you so". | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
They are praying their forecasts were wrong. | :14:40. | :14:43. | |
I want to tell you that Sadiq Khan has tweeted, "To every European | :14:44. | :15:06. | |
resident living in London, you are very welcome here." That's the | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
latest message from Sadiq Khan. That's after the tweet earlier on | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
where he said London will continue to be the successful city that it is | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
today. The message being don't panic, London will continue it's | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
success, but a more pointed message the second one to every European | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
resident living in London says the mayor, you are very welcome here. | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
What are the markets doing? It is a frantic and uncertain time. Our | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
business correspondent Ben Thompson is monitoring things for us in the | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
City. Ben, I couldn't help but notice you were tweeting about some | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
potential plans by some banks to move employees away from London. You | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
can address that for us, but first of all, what are the markets doing? | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
Yeah, Huw, thank you very much. I will take you to the market boards | :15:53. | :15:55. | |
because it has been a really volatile day so far on the markets | :15:56. | :15:58. | |
of the that's the current state of play across Europe. You see the one | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
there, that's the FTSE 100, down 3.5%, but you will notice the losses | :16:03. | :16:06. | |
elsewhere on the Continent are much worse. You can see in France, in | :16:07. | :16:12. | |
Paris, and in Frankfurt, markets falling more significantly. Read | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
into that what you will about what they make of the view of the UK to | :16:17. | :16:20. | |
leave the European Union. But within the next 14 minutes we will get the | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
view of America. New York and the stock market there will open. This | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
is the prediction of what we expect to happen. The futures, we're | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
expecting the Dow Jones to open down 2.9%. A similar picture on the S and | :16:33. | :16:39. | |
P 500, down 3.5%, they are digesting everything they've heard today and | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
looking for some sort of reassurance. I have been talking to | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
people here about whether investors are sitting on the sidelines trying | :16:49. | :16:51. | |
to get some sense of what happens next? Maybe it is on Monday that we | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
will start to discover what it is that the City really thinks, perhaps | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
it is a knee-jerk reaction and it was a surprise as far as the markets | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
were concerned. You touched on it there, Huw, the news from Morgan | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
Stanley, it telling us it is putting into place plans to move 2,000 | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
London based staff out of the UK. It will move them, we're told, either | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
to Dublin or Frankfurt. It says the taskforce is already in place. Of | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
course, the big financial institutions have had contingency | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
plans in place. Contingency plans if the UK decided to leave the European | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
Union. And it is already enacting them. It says it will not wait for | :17:31. | :17:37. | |
the Article 50, beginning the procedure, the divorce of the UK | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
from the European Union. Well, it will not wait for that. It is | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
already doing it. 2,000 staff will move from its investment banking | :17:46. | :17:48. | |
division and it will make sure that happens over the course of the | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
coming weeks. If you put in into context, we heard from the President | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
of Morgan Stanley, he said that Brexit would be the most con qengsal | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
thing we have seen since the war. That's his view. Those 2,000 staff | :18:02. | :18:09. | |
are off. Markets in New York are expected to open down by about 3%. | :18:10. | :18:20. | |
Ben, thank you very much. Ben, mentioning contingency | :18:21. | :18:23. | |
planning. I must remind you what the European | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
Parliament President said today. He said there will be con qens for | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
Britain so other EU countries are not encouraged to follow the | :18:33. | :18:42. | |
dangerous path. That was the blunt message | :18:43. | :18:43. | |
For more on the impact that Britain's decision was the blunt | :18:44. | :18:45. | |
message will have on the remaining EU member states, let's turn | :18:46. | :18:48. | |
to Matthew Amroliwala who is in Brussels. | :18:49. | :18:51. | |
. The shock that's felt here in Brussels. There is anger directed at | :18:52. | :18:59. | |
David Cameron. There is real concern at the impact on the wider EU and | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
then there is the vast unknown in terms of what lies ahead. You were | :19:05. | :19:07. | |
talking about the language there. Blunt, but the leaders have tried to | :19:08. | :19:14. | |
moderate their language. They started with Donald tusk saying it | :19:15. | :19:20. | |
was not the time for hysterical reaction, but negotiating Britain's | :19:21. | :19:25. | |
exit, the terms, the time, that is going to be hugely complicated. In | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
the buildings behind me, they're trying to make sense of it all. The | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
leaders from Germany, France, Italy, they will be here next week to try | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
to make some sort of sense of what lies ahead in the coming weeks as | :19:38. | :19:40. | |
our correspondent Ben Brown now reports. | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
A new day breaks over the British coast and with it an entirely | :19:44. | :19:46. | |
Across the Channel, wall-to-all coverage of last night's dramatic | :19:47. | :19:52. | |
result and calls in some countries for a referendums of their own. | :19:53. | :19:55. | |
The German Chancellor has expressed what she called "great regret" | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
TRANSLATION: The consequences of this in the days, | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
weeks, months and years ahead will depend on the | :20:06. | :20:08. | |
We shouldn't draw any hasty conclusions which will | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
In Paris, President Hollande said the result is a grave | :20:14. | :20:24. | |
TRANSLATION: Europe cannot be like it was before. | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
The people are waiting for the European Union | :20:30. | :20:31. | |
And on the streets of Europe, ordinary citizens reacted | :20:32. | :20:41. | |
"It's a catastrophe" says a German farmer. | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
A Frenchman says he respects the decision but thinks | :20:48. | :20:56. | |
There has been turmoil on the world's financial markets | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
with huge falls across Europe and Asia and around the world, | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
leaders are still trying to absorb the enormity of what has happened. | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
We have seen already large falls on stock markets | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
and there will be a degree of uncertainty for sometime. | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
But one world figure celebrating today is Donald Trump | :21:21. | :21:22. | |
visiting his golf resort in Scotland, he praised the verdict | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
Well, you know, I said this was going to happen and I think | :21:27. | :21:40. | |
that it is a great thing and we will see, but I think it will be | :21:41. | :21:43. | |
REPORTER: Any words for David Cameron? | :21:44. | :21:46. | |
Basically, they took back their country. | :21:47. | :21:47. | |
There is much uncertainty ahead, not only for Britain, but for the | :21:48. | :21:58. | |
European Union itself. It is worth telling you more about | :21:59. | :22:10. | |
what has been said. Britain is committed to leaving the EU, which | :22:11. | :22:19. | |
means leaving the single market. The leaders here, the EU leaders, they | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
now want to get on with negotiating Britain's exit. They don't want | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
three or four month delay in terms of taking on board a new | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
Conservative leader and that, counters, directly with what we | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
heard from the timeline laid out by David Cameron when he was speaking | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
in Downing Street. So straightaway, you get the first of what are likely | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
to be many, many battles that lie ahead. | :22:43. | :22:43. | |
Huw, back to you. This result will have huge | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
implications right across the UK. Gavin Esle ression is in Scotland. | :22:51. | :23:15. | |
The statement from the First Minister, the potential timetable, | :23:16. | :23:18. | |
if there is one shaping up for a second referendum on independence? | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
Yes, Huw. Nicola Sturgeon has managed to be both very bold and | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
very cautious at the same time. Very bold in saying effectively this is a | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
game changer. This is Scotland being taken out of the EU against the will | :23:32. | :23:38. | |
of the Scottish people. And there will therefore be, it is highly | :23:39. | :23:41. | |
likely, she says, a second independence referendum. That's the | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
bold bit. The more cautious bit is how she is reacting. For instance, | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
she has been talking with Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London. London | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
said we want to remain within the EU. It is not quite clear how that | :23:54. | :23:57. | |
might develop, but I'm told by people close to the First Minister | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
that she respects Sadiq Khan very much and thinks she can work with | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
him. Again, I don't know how it will pan out in the long-term. And also, | :24:05. | :24:11. | |
if the people of Scotland do vote in another independence referendum, the | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
First Minister says many former No voters will now switch to yes this | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
time and I've had that reaction on my Twitter feed and elsewhere, but | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
that kind of EU would they be voting to stay? That's why she has been | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
cautious and not laid out a timetable. Some of her councillors | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
are saying let's go ahead and have an independence referendum next May | :24:34. | :24:36. | |
when we have local council elections. I don't think that's her | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
timetable. We will have to see, because there will be a Cabinet | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
meeting tomorrow and she will talk to the Scottish Parliament on | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
Tuesday, but cautious as I say and trying to calm fears including the | :24:48. | :24:53. | |
fears of some of the people here in Scotland who have EU passports and | :24:54. | :24:56. | |
they might be wondering about their future. She says they're safe here. | :24:57. | :25:02. | |
Just a thought about other opinion in Scotland. We know, the SNP, of | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
course, is dominant in the Scottish Parliament, but what are the other | :25:07. | :25:09. | |
party leaders doing? All of the other party campaigners were | :25:10. | :25:12. | |
campaigning for Remain, weren't they? They were, indeed. That's an | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
interesting point. Ruth Davidson who put up a brave fight during the | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
campaign here in Scotland and also on the British national stage. She | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
is very strongly in favour of Remain. The leadership of her party | :25:25. | :25:29. | |
is about to change. And perhaps it will be a leadership that she finds | :25:30. | :25:36. | |
less congealial than the one of David Cameron. Kezia Dugdale has the | :25:37. | :25:47. | |
problem. Jeremy Corbyn is not the kind of leader that's firing up the | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
party base. She is saying, "Look, the people of Scotland are joiners. | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
We like to be within the United Kingdom and we like to be within the | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
European Union. So let's go carefully." All the parties here do | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
have their problems. Gavin, thank you very much. We'll | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
talk later on. We're going to go to Belfast and talk to Chris Buckler. | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
Chris, first of all, the broad response to what happened and then | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
maybe we can talk about the statement made earlier by Martin | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
McGuinness and his colleagues, but the broad response first Well, first | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
of all, there is that question now about all of those issues that were | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
brought up in the referendum specifically as regards Northern | :26:27. | :26:29. | |
Ireland. We are talk about it generally the Democratic Unionist | :26:30. | :26:33. | |
Party and the First Minister of Northern Ireland, Arlene Foster has | :26:34. | :26:35. | |
made it clear she welcomes the result. She had campaigned for a | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
Leave vote and she says there is no need to panic, but there are people | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
now asking questions about what it will mean along the border? Will it | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
means Customs check points being put in place? The Irish Government is | :26:49. | :26:51. | |
considering this. There is the big relationship in terms of trade | :26:52. | :26:55. | |
between Britain and Ireland. The UK and Ireland are big trading partners | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
and as a result they are having to consider this carefully. All of | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
these issues are now having to be addressed. Up until this point it | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
has been referendum thoughts, what will be. Now they are practical | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
realities. Chris, thank you very much. Chris | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
Buckler there for us in Belfast. We're going to Cardiff and talk to | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
Thomas Morgan. We saw the First Minister Carwyn Jones making that | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
statement a few hours ago. What's been the broad response in Wales? | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
Well, I think it has been a bit of a shock for the Remain campaign, but | :27:28. | :27:33. | |
some of those have been critical of the Remain campaign in Wales. They | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
said they should have started campaigning here sooner. There was a | :27:38. | :27:40. | |
breather between then and campaigning for the EU referendum. | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
As I say, some people have been critical of the time it took the | :27:46. | :27:48. | |
Remain campaign to push on and to make sure they could keep being a | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
part of the European Union. Now, of course, Wales gets a great deal of | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
money from the European Union because so many areas here are | :27:57. | :28:03. | |
lacking in funding. There are so many poor areas here so many of | :28:04. | :28:09. | |
those areas that get the money from Europe, they are Labour strongholds, | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
Wrexham and Caerphilly, it is interesting the way it has been | :28:14. | :28:16. | |
voting, but the opinion polls over the last few months were showing | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
this trend. It has been a knife edge for a while here. So that turnout in | :28:21. | :28:27. | |
Wales, the 52.5% that voted to leave shouldn't maybe come as a shock to | :28:28. | :28:30. | |
the people that were on the Remain side and Carwyn Jones because it was | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
forecast in those opinion polls. I think what will happen is Carwyn | :28:35. | :28:39. | |
Jones will meet with the Welsh Government here on Monday and try | :28:40. | :28:42. | |
and see where they can maybe gain more money from London because if | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
they're not going to gain that extra funding from Europe, will it be | :28:47. | :28:49. | |
able, will they be able to renegotiate or get extra funding | :28:50. | :28:52. | |
from the Barnett Formula further down the line? | :28:53. | :28:58. | |
Thank you very much. Thomas Morgan there with the response in Wales to | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
the overall result. Wales voted to leave overall. A quick reminder of | :29:05. | :29:10. | |
the reaction coming up. I have seen President Obama has responded. He | :29:11. | :29:15. | |
has been briefed on the results and he says, "We respect their | :29:16. | :29:19. | |
decision." That's to say the voters of the UK. He says, "The UK and the | :29:20. | :29:26. | |
European Union will remain indispensable partners of the US." | :29:27. | :29:29. | |
President Obama responding to the vote a few minutes ago. "We respect | :29:30. | :29:36. | |
the decision. The UK and the EU will remain indispensable partners of the | :29:37. | :29:40. | |
US." What does it feel like here in the UK if you're a non-EU resident | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
to be waking up in a country that's voted to leave the EU? One area that | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
has seen a huge number of EU migrants in recent years is Wisbech | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
in Cambridge sheurl. Robert Hall is there with more details. | :29:55. | :30:00. | |
Discern is shining in Wisbech, smiles on the faces of pro Brexit | :30:01. | :30:07. | |
voters, 71.4% of people in the Fenland region voted in favour of | :30:08. | :30:13. | |
leaving the EU, in part down to this issue of immigration. About a third | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
of the population in the town of Wisbech, once a busy river port, are | :30:18. | :30:22. | |
from Eastern Europe. They came here to work on the farms and in local | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
food processing plants, lots of them have their own businesses now, but | :30:27. | :30:30. | |
it has led to division and dissatisfaction within the town, | :30:31. | :30:34. | |
which has contributed to the Leave vote. I would like to speak to one | :30:35. | :30:38. | |
family from Wisbech who are very much part of the town. You and your | :30:39. | :30:43. | |
family, over this issue of immigration generally, you are a | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
part of this decision-making Rosas, you voted to Leave. How big was it | :30:48. | :30:51. | |
in your mind? About right big. There are social issues which need | :30:52. | :30:58. | |
discussing around the country. Reaches need to be part of it. I | :30:59. | :31:02. | |
have referred to division, how important it been? The migrant | :31:03. | :31:06. | |
population did not arrive until a few years ago. Problems have arisen | :31:07. | :31:11. | |
from integration with locals and migrant workers, hopefully things | :31:12. | :31:17. | |
will get better. This was a divided family, you are a Leaver, your wife | :31:18. | :31:24. | |
wavered and in the end she voted Remain, you two voted Remain. How | :31:25. | :31:28. | |
did you feel when you saw the results? I was really discouraged by | :31:29. | :31:31. | |
the fact that we had left the EU. The only things I saw from social | :31:32. | :31:36. | |
media and my friends was that everyone was voting In, I did not | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
expect to be out. What are your concerns? The economy has started to | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
fall, and it will continue. The pound is already the same, I am not | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
sure, as what it was in 1985? It is discouraging to note that the | :31:52. | :31:56. | |
economy will only go down. You have just finished a degree, do you have | :31:57. | :32:01. | |
concerns, can you see a way through this? In the grand scheme of things | :32:02. | :32:05. | |
there were lots of economic reasons to stay, I am quite disappointed | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
this morning. As my sister said, lots of people our age voted to | :32:11. | :32:14. | |
remain, it is quite sad. What principles do you think people have | :32:15. | :32:18. | |
voted on, do you think the campaign was conducted as it should have | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
been? I don't think it was conducted well. There was lots of | :32:24. | :32:27. | |
concentration on immigration, the imaginary ?350 million we sent to | :32:28. | :32:31. | |
the EU each week but immigration was a big factor. People were quite | :32:32. | :32:35. | |
narrow minded about it. Thank you all very much. We have already heard | :32:36. | :32:42. | |
worrying silence from the City and other businesses, are you concerned | :32:43. | :32:44. | |
about crossing the box that you left? I think a lot of people will | :32:45. | :32:51. | |
be, I may be one, but we have to see what the future holds. We need to | :32:52. | :32:56. | |
reunite and make it a better world, work together, work harder and make | :32:57. | :33:01. | |
it the place that it should be. Thank you all very much. We will | :33:02. | :33:04. | |
have more from Wisbech later but, for now, back to you. | :33:05. | :33:10. | |
Thank you very much, Robert Hall in Wisbech with his guests. | :33:11. | :33:11. | |
It is to 30 3pm. We are reporting at Westminster on the outcome of the EU | :33:12. | :33:24. | |
referendum. You're watching a special BBC news programme with me, | :33:25. | :33:25. | |
Huw Edwards. Now over to the BBC Newsroom | :33:26. | :33:28. | |
for a summary of all the latest news After more than 40 years, | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
the UK is to end its membership The decision has been decisive - | :33:33. | :33:35. | |
with the Leave campaign securing its victory by a margin | :33:36. | :33:39. | |
of more than one million votes. The Prime Minister David Cameron has | :33:40. | :33:42. | |
said he will step down, and a new Prime Minister would be | :33:43. | :33:45. | |
in place within months. In total, 17.4 million people voted | :33:46. | :33:47. | |
for the UK to leave the EU. That compares with the 16.1 million | :33:48. | :33:53. | |
voters who backed remain. Turnout was 72% - the highest level | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
in a nationwide ballot As the UK woke up to the news | :33:58. | :34:00. | |
it is to exit the European Union, Ukip's leader Nigel Farage led | :34:01. | :34:09. | |
those in Westminster, saying June the 23rd should now be | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
regarded as Britain's Those from the Remain camp described | :34:15. | :34:16. | |
the result as a catastrophe. Supporters of Remain consoled each | :34:17. | :34:24. | |
other as the campaign received lower-than-expected support | :34:25. | :34:28. | |
across swathes of England - Speaking outside Downing Street, | :34:29. | :34:31. | |
David Cameron said that he will resign as Prime Minister - | :34:32. | :34:37. | |
with a new leader And as such I think the country | :34:38. | :34:39. | |
requires fresh leadership to take I will do everything I can to steady | :34:40. | :35:01. | |
the ship over the coming weeks and months, but I do not think it would | :35:02. | :35:05. | |
be right for me to try to be the captain that steers the country to | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
its next destination. This is not a decision I have taken lightly, but I | :35:10. | :35:12. | |
believe it is in the national interest to have a period of | :35:13. | :35:15. | |
stability, then the new leadership required. There is no need for a | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
precise timetable today but, in my view, we should aim to have a new | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
Prime Minister in place by the start of the Conservative Party conference | :35:25. | :35:25. | |
in October. One of the politicians who led | :35:26. | :35:27. | |
the campaign to Leave - the former Mayor of London, | :35:28. | :35:29. | |
Boris Johnson - paid tribute to David Cameron as one of the most | :35:30. | :35:31. | |
extraordinary politicians Mr Johnson also said that | :35:32. | :35:34. | |
in the future Britain would benefit I believe we now have a glorious | :35:35. | :35:46. | |
opportunity. We can pass our laws and set our taxes and highly | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
according to the needs of the UK economy. -- entirely according. We | :35:52. | :35:58. | |
can control our borders in a way that is not discriminatory but fair | :35:59. | :36:01. | |
and balanced, and take the wind out of the sails of the extremist and | :36:02. | :36:06. | |
those who would play politics with immigration. | :36:07. | :36:07. | |
More than 62% of people in Scotland voted to stay in the EU. | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
The First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, says that meant | :36:11. | :36:13. | |
the option of a second referendum was on the table. | :36:14. | :36:21. | |
-- a second independence referendum. When the Article 50 process is | :36:22. | :36:27. | |
triggered in three months, the UK will be on a two year passed to the | :36:28. | :36:32. | |
EU exit door. If Parliament judges that a second referendum is the best | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
only way to protect our place in Europe, it have the option to hold | :36:37. | :36:42. | |
one within that time scale. -- it must have. We must act now to | :36:43. | :36:46. | |
protect our position. I can therefore confirmed today that in | :36:47. | :36:51. | |
order to protect that position, we will begin to prepare the | :36:52. | :36:55. | |
legislation that would be required to enable a new independence | :36:56. | :36:58. | |
referendum to take days if and when Parliament so decides. | :36:59. | :37:00. | |
The political ramifications have extended to the | :37:01. | :37:02. | |
Two of its MPs have submitted a motion of no | :37:03. | :37:05. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is criticised for his handling of his handling | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
of the referendum campaign by Margaret Hodge and Ann Coffey. | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
They've written to the chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party. | :37:13. | :37:14. | |
Their motion has no formal force but it calls | :37:15. | :37:17. | |
for a discussion at next meeting of the PLP on Monday. | :37:18. | :37:20. | |
If accepted, it would be followed by a secret ballot | :37:21. | :37:23. | |
It comes as Jeremy Corbyn pulled out of a planned appearance at | :37:24. | :37:34. | |
Glastonbury this weekend. Let's go back to Huw Edwards with | :37:35. | :37:43. | |
more reaction at Westminster. Welcome back to jamming street. -- | :37:44. | :37:50. | |
Downing Street. We are reporting today in Downing Street on the | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
position of the UK electorate to leave the European Union. We have a | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
Prime Minister who is resigning and will leave office within five or six | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
months, a position where the Labour leader is likely to be challenged, | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
possibly next week. In Scotland, the First Minister is talking terms of a | :38:08. | :38:10. | |
potential second referendum on independence. There are other | :38:11. | :38:16. | |
layers, including the legal consequences of this decision. | :38:17. | :38:18. | |
So how will the result change the UK's legal | :38:19. | :38:20. | |
Our legal correspondent Clive Coleman is with me. | :38:21. | :38:27. | |
There are lots of points we could raise, I want to start with what | :38:28. | :38:33. | |
people referred to as Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, one of the main | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
gateways for countries to leave the EU. Is that the root for Britain? | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
That is the route for Britain, we are signed up to an international | :38:44. | :38:46. | |
treaty, that is the way we get out of it. But the problem with Article | :38:47. | :38:51. | |
50 is that it is pretty brief, it does not lay down any route map, any | :38:52. | :38:58. | |
timescale particularly safe from this, once the Prime Minister has | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
notified the president of the European Council of the UK's | :39:03. | :39:06. | |
intention to leave, a clock starts ticking for two years, that is the | :39:07. | :39:10. | |
window in which we have to agreed an arrangement whereby we leave. | :39:11. | :39:14. | |
Interestingly, many people think that will be the two year period | :39:15. | :39:18. | |
where we conclude everything, the trade agreement, the movement of | :39:19. | :39:22. | |
people. That will simply be the divorce settlement. It is not | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
impossible that we could include a trade agreement within that, but | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
they are notoriously difficult and long in terms of their negotiations, | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
they can take a decade or more. That two-year window is time we have to | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
negotiate a basic divorce settlement. If we don't do it within | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
two Mike Read years, that's it, we are out in who would have to | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
negotiate with the EU just like a normal third-party state that is not | :39:49. | :39:51. | |
a member -- if we do not do it within two years. Within that, there | :39:52. | :39:58. | |
is huge and certainty as to how this is all done. That Article 50 has not | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
been triggered yet, there was clear relief that the Prime Minister had | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
not done so. Does he have to do that by a certain time, is the under | :40:09. | :40:13. | |
pressure from other EU partners? The dog Article 50 does not give you a | :40:14. | :40:17. | |
timeline as to when you had to do it. Their arguments not to do it | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
soon, Russell is pretty much shuts down over the summer, the more | :40:22. | :40:25. | |
breathing space you have, potentially the better thinking that | :40:26. | :40:31. | |
can be done -- Pressel is pretty much shuts down over the summer. He | :40:32. | :40:34. | |
says he will trigger a tally rapidly, there is a moral promise he | :40:35. | :40:42. | |
has made to do that. If it goes on too long, people will get twitchy. | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
Crucial point, all of the EU legislation which is applying to the | :40:48. | :40:51. | |
UK today, what happens to all of that? That is the $64,000 question. | :40:52. | :40:58. | |
No one knows. In order to expunge EU law from UK law, you would need an | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
exercise in Parliamentary scrutiny the like of which we have never, | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
ever seen. It would probably take one parliament, if not two all | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
three. Our legal system has been growing for the last 40 years in | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
conjunction with EU law, taking on-board EU law, which now runs | :41:17. | :41:19. | |
through the veins of large areas of law. By Mintlaw, for instance, | :41:20. | :41:26. | |
environmental law. -- employment law, for instance. So to go through | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
everything, say we will repeal or amend, we take for ever, really. One | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
of the ironies of this referendum could the better the only effective | :41:38. | :41:40. | |
way to do that would be to give much more power to the executive, to give | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
ministers power to do that, which would be something of an irony in a | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
referendum that had at its heart a greater democracy resulting in a | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
more executive power being given in shaping our law to Cabinet | :41:53. | :41:59. | |
ministers. I don't love I subscribe to that, but I have heard that | :42:00. | :42:05. | |
expressed. -- I don't know if I is described about. Thank you. Clive | :42:06. | :42:11. | |
Coleman, talking is through some of the complexities and timescales that | :42:12. | :42:14. | |
could be involved. Not just one or two Mike Read years, but it could be | :42:15. | :42:16. | |
several. Heathrow Airport claims it will now | :42:17. | :42:18. | |
play an even more vital role in keeping the UK connected | :42:19. | :42:21. | |
to the rest of the world. The airport's chief executive, | :42:22. | :42:23. | |
John Holland-Kaye, is there. He joins us. Thank you for joining | :42:24. | :42:35. | |
us. Your response, first of all, given your crucial position in terms | :42:36. | :42:40. | |
of the UK economy, to the vote we had overnight? I think it is a time | :42:41. | :42:44. | |
when we all think about what kind of country do we want to have, what | :42:45. | :42:48. | |
kind of economy? We are concerned about the state of the financial | :42:49. | :42:51. | |
markets and what that means for us all. This is a point of clarity when | :42:52. | :42:55. | |
we realise what really matters for the future. If we want to have a | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
stronger economy for the next generation we need to invest now to | :43:00. | :43:07. | |
make sure that it can be stronger. What Heathrow expansion will do is | :43:08. | :43:10. | |
make sure we can trade with all of the growing world markets. We want | :43:11. | :43:12. | |
to be a confident, as forward-looking nation, a greater | :43:13. | :43:14. | |
economic superpower, only Heathrow expansion will allow us to do that. | :43:15. | :43:19. | |
We need to look to the world, not just Europe, for future growth. That | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
is why it is critical we get on with it. We are concerned about the | :43:24. | :43:26. | |
stability of the UK economy, what better way to bring it than ?18 | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
billion privately funded investment in British infrastructure. That is a | :43:32. | :43:36. | |
huge opportunity to create jobs and growth which any politician would | :43:37. | :43:40. | |
want to grab with both hands. What do you think your chances of that | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
happening if, let's say, Boris Johnson becomes Prime Minister? We | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
are in a new reality where any political leader will want to | :43:50. | :43:52. | |
provide economic stability today, investment and jobs and growth at | :43:53. | :43:56. | |
Heathrow will do that, and set up the next generation for future | :43:57. | :43:59. | |
success. We had to be outward looking, we are confident of future | :44:00. | :44:04. | |
as a great trading nation of the world, so we need the direct flights | :44:05. | :44:09. | |
to all the growing market of the world in Asia, North and South | :44:10. | :44:12. | |
America. Only Heathrow can do that. Every time we look at that we come | :44:13. | :44:17. | |
to the same conclusion, only Heathrow expansion will do that. | :44:18. | :44:20. | |
Whether it is Boris Johnson or another Prime Minister, they will | :44:21. | :44:24. | |
come to the same conclusion, get on as quickly as possible to expand | :44:25. | :44:29. | |
Heathrow. We were talking to Clive Coleman about the legal complexity | :44:30. | :44:31. | |
of unpicking lots of legislation and different aspect of the relationship | :44:32. | :44:37. | |
with the EU, what in practical terms could this mean for big airports? | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
Let's talk about Heathrow, given that it is the busy one. What in | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
practical terms could that mean for you? In the short-term, nothing | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
changes. If you are travelling as a passenger it is exactly the same | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
today as yesterday and will be the same in two Mike Read years as it is | :44:56. | :44:59. | |
today. People should not expect anything to change in duty three or | :45:00. | :45:05. | |
immigration. In the long term, we are concerned about the health of | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
the economy. -- in duty free or immigration. We expect changes | :45:11. | :45:12. | |
around immigration, perhaps around duty free or perhaps around | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
employment. One thing is clear, we need more than ever to have a | :45:18. | :45:24. | |
strong, healthy porter at the heart of the UK, that is what Heathrow | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
does. Whatever arrangement we have with the EU, we need to have... Be | :45:30. | :45:34. | |
planning now for the long-term creative links with the other | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
growing markets of the world. Thank you, John. | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
NEBREAK The Chief Executive of Heathrow | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
Airport making a clear appeal to whoever succeeds David Cameron at | :45:48. | :45:50. | |
ten Downing Street for the Heathrow expansion option which has been a | :45:51. | :45:55. | |
very, very, controversial debate. Boris Johnson has strong views on it | :45:56. | :45:58. | |
because he wanted an altogether different solution. Let's see if | :45:59. | :46:00. | |
that might change. The Prime Minister will be out of | :46:01. | :46:16. | |
office by October of this year, by the date of the kich conference, | :46:17. | :46:21. | |
that's what he said. -- Conservative Party Conference. Let's join Jayne | :46:22. | :46:27. | |
Hill for more reaction. We're going to pick up on the conversation you | :46:28. | :46:30. | |
were having about Heathrow actually because we'll talk more about the | :46:31. | :46:35. | |
impact on business, the economy, the world of work, alongside me here, on | :46:36. | :46:40. | |
a very busy Westminster, Frances O'Grady, the head of the TUC and | :46:41. | :46:46. | |
John Longworth formerly of the British Chambers of Commerce. | :46:47. | :46:50. | |
Welcome to both of you. A question put to our guest about Heathrow. | :46:51. | :46:54. | |
What changes from here on in Frances O'Grady? Well, the TUC wants to see | :46:55. | :46:59. | |
some urgent action and national action plan to shore up the pound. | :47:00. | :47:04. | |
Secure the economy, but crucially, to protect people's jobs and | :47:05. | :47:08. | |
livelihoods. We can't have working people paying the price again. We | :47:09. | :47:14. | |
want the Government to pull in politicians of all stripes, unions | :47:15. | :47:18. | |
and business to start working together on how we get a deal to | :47:19. | :47:23. | |
retain access to the EU market on which so many of our manufacturing | :47:24. | :47:29. | |
exports and good jobs depend. We'll talk more about that. John | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
Longworth, you wanted to leave? Of course, I was chairman of the Vote | :47:35. | :47:39. | |
Leave business council. The one thing we can't do is return to the | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
establishment business as usual. If we do, we'll end up negotiating our | :47:44. | :47:47. | |
way back into the European single market or losing the benefits of | :47:48. | :47:51. | |
leaving. The fact that Brexit business community needs to watch | :47:52. | :47:53. | |
the politicians like a hawk to make sure we get the real benefits of | :47:54. | :47:57. | |
leaving and those benefits are not to do with the single market, the | :47:58. | :48:03. | |
dividend of 1.2% potential growth from the contribution we make that | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
we no longer have to make from a reduction in regulatory cost from | :48:08. | :48:11. | |
the removal, of course, the big external barriers that the EU | :48:12. | :48:16. | |
actually apply that make food and clothing and footwear more expensive | :48:17. | :48:21. | |
for UK consumers. Those are the things that will give a boost to the | :48:22. | :48:30. | |
UK economy. They tell more to us than we do from them -- they sell | :48:31. | :48:41. | |
more to us than we do to them. I think today is a day where we need a | :48:42. | :48:47. | |
bit of unity. We have had a very, very divisive and sometimes nasty | :48:48. | :48:50. | |
campaign. I think today everybody needs to roll up their sleeves and | :48:51. | :48:54. | |
be very clear that this isn't about politicians jobs, this is about | :48:55. | :48:57. | |
working people's jobs and that has to be top of the agenda for | :48:58. | :49:01. | |
everybody. It is a long, slow process. Can we all agree on that? | :49:02. | :49:06. | |
Negotiating trade deals, negotiating agreements, none of this is going to | :49:07. | :49:11. | |
happen quickly and don't we always hear John Longworth that business | :49:12. | :49:16. | |
hates uncertainty. So that in itself, for the next couple of | :49:17. | :49:20. | |
years, is that not an unsettling period? The greatest uncertainty | :49:21. | :49:25. | |
would have been to remain in the European Union where we would have | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
had none of the decision making and what we need to do is make sure we | :49:30. | :49:34. | |
get the dividend, the boost to the economy that we can have from | :49:35. | :49:37. | |
leaving and we can do some of that very quickly and we determine the | :49:38. | :49:40. | |
pace at which we exit the European Union. We don't have to trigger | :49:41. | :49:46. | |
Article 50, we can have prenegotiations informerly and dot | :49:47. | :49:50. | |
Article 50 stuff quickly. If we find we aren't getting the deal, we ought | :49:51. | :49:53. | |
to simply leave and get on and make our own way. I think, you know, | :49:54. | :49:59. | |
everybody wants to get a good deal and that's what we should focus on, | :50:00. | :50:05. | |
but I do worry about others talking about taking a bit of a punt on how | :50:06. | :50:10. | |
quickly we would find other trade deals when it is people's | :50:11. | :50:14. | |
livelihoods that are at stake. A lot of working people have already been | :50:15. | :50:17. | |
through one hell of a crisis in terms of a financial crisis in 2008. | :50:18. | :50:22. | |
They feel angry and disaffected, but they often lost out, not just in | :50:23. | :50:26. | |
terms of jobs and pay packets, but through the cuts, their local | :50:27. | :50:29. | |
services too. We've got a generation of young people who didn't vote for | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
this Brexit and I think we owe them and we should be looking at a | :50:35. | :50:37. | |
national programme to get demand into the economy like building | :50:38. | :50:41. | |
affordable homes. Which young people in particular need to make sure that | :50:42. | :50:45. | |
we've got jobs and a decent life for people in those communities. As you | :50:46. | :50:50. | |
say, we don't want to re-run the campaign, but people watching will | :50:51. | :50:54. | |
know John Longworth in the run-up to this, a lot of big businesses wanted | :50:55. | :50:58. | |
the UK to remain. They did not want the vote that we have got this | :50:59. | :51:03. | |
morning. Those businesses that were so fer mant about it, what are they | :51:04. | :51:08. | |
doing now? What will they do? Will they adapt? Contrary to public | :51:09. | :51:14. | |
opinion, we had business leaders and Entrepreneurs signed up for the | :51:15. | :51:17. | |
Leave campaign. The multinationals fighting against us and the Crib, of | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
course, are saying as I predicted that things will be OK and they can | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
manage the change. Pity they didn't say that during the campaign. The | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
fact is, of course, it is working people in the UK who've suffered the | :51:29. | :51:32. | |
most from the European Union. While the multinationals have benefited | :51:33. | :51:34. | |
and actually the Labour Party should be ashamed of themselves for having | :51:35. | :51:40. | |
a abandoned working people as a consequence of which they're | :51:41. | :51:43. | |
abandoning the Labour Party. You sat on the boards of Asda and Tesco. You | :51:44. | :51:47. | |
know the big business prospective too. What we need to concentrate on | :51:48. | :51:51. | |
is building confidence, is shoring up the pound, and is making sure | :51:52. | :51:55. | |
that we've got decent jobs for people. This is serious stuff. I | :51:56. | :52:00. | |
think we need to move on from the campaign and focus on working | :52:01. | :52:04. | |
together to secure those decent jobs and protect them. All right, we will | :52:05. | :52:10. | |
be talking plenty about this in the coming weeks, thank you, Frances | :52:11. | :52:16. | |
O'Grady and John Longworth. Let's remind ourselves of how the vote | :52:17. | :52:22. | |
broke down because, of course, there were regional variations. Christian | :52:23. | :52:26. | |
Fraser has been looking through the numbers. | :52:27. | :52:32. | |
Let's take a look at those numbers in greater detail. | :52:33. | :52:34. | |
Over 28 million votes cast on Thursday, turnout 73%. | :52:35. | :52:50. | |
Parts of the country that don't normally get involved in the | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
political process coming out to vote. That made a huge difference as | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
you can see in the central belts of England and into the northern, | :52:59. | :53:02. | |
north-west area where Labour traditionally are so strong. These | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
isolated bits of yellow, the metropolitan areas, Liverpool, | :53:07. | :53:10. | |
Manchester, the wealthier parts of Yorkshire, Leeds, Yorkshire and | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
Harrogate and isolated Newcastle and the north-east, not by as big a | :53:16. | :53:19. | |
margin as perhaps Remain were hoping for up there. London, almost overall | :53:20. | :53:24. | |
in London, went for Remain as we expected, but not so across the | :53:25. | :53:28. | |
South East. You can see big slugs of Kent there also in blue. Well, let's | :53:29. | :53:32. | |
look at the picture in Scotland because it is very different, of | :53:33. | :53:36. | |
course, all 32 voting areas going for Remain. The turnout, 2.8 million | :53:37. | :53:41. | |
people in Scotland. Lower than the UK average. That maybe, of course, | :53:42. | :53:44. | |
because of the number of votes that they've had the last two years. Four | :53:45. | :53:49. | |
times that they have been to the polls in those two years. Edinburgh, | :53:50. | :53:55. | |
74% for Remain and of course, that opens up this whole discussion now | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
about a second independence vote in Scotland. Similar discussions now | :54:00. | :54:05. | |
going on in Northern Ireland where again, they voted for Remain. Again | :54:06. | :54:11. | |
a low turnout, 790,000 voters. Foyle, up here, this was one of the | :54:12. | :54:17. | |
top five Remain areas in the UK. North Antrim, not far away, was one | :54:18. | :54:22. | |
of the top Leave areas in the UK. Three out of four areas in Belfast | :54:23. | :54:28. | |
going for Remain. And let me show you another picture again in Wales. | :54:29. | :54:35. | |
Just five of the 22 voting areas in Wales going for Remain. Cardiff did. | :54:36. | :54:41. | |
Swansea didn't, but some other key Labour areas, Merthyr Tydfil, | :54:42. | :54:44. | |
Newport and Caerphilly going towards Leave. Let me show you the top five | :54:45. | :54:50. | |
areas that went for Leave in the country. Top of the file is a very | :54:51. | :54:54. | |
interesting one. This is Boston in Lincolnshire. 75%. Boston, according | :54:55. | :55:00. | |
to the 2011 census had the biggest percentage of Eastern European | :55:01. | :55:04. | |
migrants in England and Wales. Top of the pile of the leavers. South | :55:05. | :55:12. | |
Holland, Castle Point, these areas, big support for Ukip. Great Yarmouth | :55:13. | :55:19. | |
has a Ukip mayor. The top five Remain, Gibraltar, almost universal | :55:20. | :55:27. | |
support for Remain. Lambeth, Hackney, all for Remain. The areas | :55:28. | :55:32. | |
in darker blue, those areas of the country that went most for Leave. | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
You can see the east of the country, we've got East Riding in Yorkshire | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
here, we talked about Lincolnshire, Great Yarmouth down here, but other | :55:42. | :55:45. | |
parts of the country as well, North Antrim over here in dark blue. This | :55:46. | :55:51. | |
a similar map for Remain. In darker orange areas, the central belt of | :55:52. | :55:55. | |
Scotland and the Western Isles, the Orkney Islands in orange there and | :55:56. | :56:01. | |
down here, you've got Cambridgeshire, London, and then | :56:02. | :56:03. | |
that's Brighton down at the bottom. So that gives you a little bit of a | :56:04. | :56:08. | |
picture of how the country was divided and we're also starting to | :56:09. | :56:11. | |
see some of information that maybe there was a generational split as | :56:12. | :56:15. | |
well. We will hope to see some detail on that as the days go by, | :56:16. | :56:19. | |
but certainly the younger people voting more for Remain. If you want | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
to look at the details, they are on the website: | :56:24. | :56:34. | |
With us now is Alastair Campbell, the former Director | :56:35. | :56:45. | |
of Communications for Labour under Tony Blair. | :56:46. | :56:47. | |
What was the main driver of this result? Was it to do with economic | :56:48. | :56:52. | |
hardship or to do with levels of migration? I think they became | :56:53. | :56:56. | |
connected. I think for me the biggest thing is being a sense in | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
lots of different communities that people feel the global financial | :57:02. | :57:03. | |
crisis happened. The people who caused it got away with it pretty | :57:04. | :57:08. | |
much Scott free and they have continued to pay a price through | :57:09. | :57:11. | |
austerity policies and I think part of the problem when David Cameron | :57:12. | :57:15. | |
and George Osborne were hammering the message about economic risk, I | :57:16. | :57:19. | |
think they were right to do and we are seeing the consequences of this | :57:20. | :57:22. | |
vote to the economy already, but I think that for a lot of people, they | :57:23. | :57:25. | |
were thinking, "What is this great economy you're talking about because | :57:26. | :57:34. | |
I don't feel? We're going through an area around democratic politics | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
where the public are looking for reasons to kick politicians, that's | :57:39. | :57:41. | |
why I was always worried about the referendum. I know it sounds | :57:42. | :57:44. | |
anti-democratic to say I don't think we should have had this. It was | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
announced three years as a tactic to deal with the rise of Ukip and the | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
Tory right and three years later, we are having it in very, very | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
different circumstances and I was worried when people started saying, | :57:58. | :58:03. | |
"The turn keep out is really high. That's going to help Remain." People | :58:04. | :58:06. | |
I was coming across in northern towns and cities, they were voting | :58:07. | :58:09. | |
for the first time. They were coming out to vote against something. I | :58:10. | :58:17. | |
think that, you know, there is not No one reason. I think it is about | :58:18. | :58:22. | |
this sense of division and inequality and people feeling there | :58:23. | :58:24. | |
is lots of people in this country that do really, really, really well | :58:25. | :58:28. | |
and they keep on doing better and there is people just being left | :58:29. | :58:32. | |
behind. Do you think some Labour MPs are | :58:33. | :58:36. | |
being fair when they accuse Jeremy Corbyn and some of his team of not | :58:37. | :58:39. | |
having pulled their weight in the campaign? I think people knew the | :58:40. | :58:44. | |
whole way through that this was going to be a really, really tough | :58:45. | :58:47. | |
fight. That was obvious from the start. What that meant everybody, I | :58:48. | :58:51. | |
think, who had, the possibility of playing a role to help win it, had | :58:52. | :58:57. | |
to do that to the max. And I don't really think that you can say that | :58:58. | :59:01. | |
was done and I think latterly, the Labour Party as an organisation, did | :59:02. | :59:05. | |
an incredible job. The Labour Party in terms of, you know, getting out, | :59:06. | :59:08. | |
particularly to the really difficult areas and trying to find the | :59:09. | :59:11. | |
supporters that would come out and vote, but I think there was a | :59:12. | :59:15. | |
confusion about the message and I think there was a difficulty in the | :59:16. | :59:18. | |
fact that David Cameron was pushing one message and Jeremy Corbyn | :59:19. | :59:21. | |
pushing a different sort of message on the same issues and Nicola | :59:22. | :59:26. | |
Sturgeon something different. I just think that's, that weakened the | :59:27. | :59:30. | |
campaign. Whereas the Leave side, even though they had this very | :59:31. | :59:36. | |
divided camps, and they were actually complimentary in terms of | :59:37. | :59:40. | |
the messages therm put there. It is interesting watching Nigel Farage | :59:41. | :59:43. | |
today trying to disown the ?350 million which always was for the | :59:44. | :59:47. | |
birds, but he disowned that. He can say it was nothing to do with him, | :59:48. | :59:52. | |
but it was effective for his campaign and Michael Gove can say he | :59:53. | :59:56. | |
shuddered at Nigel Farage's poster, but it was effective for his | :59:57. | :00:01. | |
campaign because they were marching to the same drum and now we're all | :00:02. | :00:05. | |
going to have to live with the same consequences. | :00:06. | :00:08. | |
Just a thought about the state of the Labour Party, do you think | :00:09. | :00:14. | |
people like Margaret Hodge are right to be talking about a challenge to | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
Jeremy Corbyn? I'm obsessed with winning elections for the Labour | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
Party. We have lost the last two. We just had to be honest. We had to be | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
honest. Here we are, with the Government in meltdown, with the | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
Conservative Party as divided as I can remember it even during the last | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
days of John Major and the last days of Margaret Thatcher, failing on all | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
sorts of issues, and yet they are still ahead in the polls. Even | :00:42. | :00:48. | |
though we will have chaos for the next couple of years, they will get | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
a sense of renewal from a new leader. We have to be honest, in the | :00:53. | :00:57. | |
state we are in, with the team we have, does the Labour Party look | :00:58. | :01:00. | |
like it can win a general election? Like it can win over people that we | :01:01. | :01:05. | |
have lost? There are all sorts of issues, some of them from the time | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
when I was involved. Or does it look like, actually, we are heading to | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
nowhere? I think the answer is pretty obvious. | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
And that leads you to what conclusion in terms of the form of | :01:19. | :01:23. | |
the Labour leadership in the year to come? I don't know. You have to | :01:24. | :01:26. | |
understand that Jeremy Corbyn became leader, in a funny sort of way, as | :01:27. | :01:33. | |
part of this anti-politics thing, because he was not like the others, | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
like the Labour leaders we had had before. Then all these new members | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
came in, the new members came in and they are very fervent supporters of | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. I don't know, if there was a challenge, if he would | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
get on the ballot paper and he might win again. I don't know. But part of | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
the act of leadership, I think, is to be honest about whether you can | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
lead, and whether you can do the job you had to do, which is to be the | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
alternative Prime Minister and lead a party to win an election, to get | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
into power. I am depressed enough about what has happened to the | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
country in terms of the vote, I could say I am any happier about the | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
state of the Labour Party. What happened in Scotland should be a | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
warning for us. We thought we could win Scotland for ever. The SNP came | :02:24. | :02:28. | |
along and pretty much wiped us out. You have a situation in parts of the | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
North of England where they are described as traditional Labour | :02:34. | :02:35. | |
heartlands, our call vote, those concepts have gone. Difficult, | :02:36. | :02:43. | |
difficult times. When you look at the parliamentary | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
Labour Party and Celia, prominent figures today, who is best placed, | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
in your view, to take Labour on in the way that you would think would | :02:54. | :03:00. | |
be contagious? -- senior, prominent figures. I don't know. As we have | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
seen today, we live in a democracy and the political parties have | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
democratic systems, that is why Corbyn is leader and might be leader | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
again even if there was a contest. But just as Americans and the world | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
is looking at Donald Trump and saying, is that the best you can do | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
in a country as fast as that, I think people are looking at our | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
politics at the moment and asking similar questions. Lots of it is | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
what politics has become, how people engage, the narrowing of the gene | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
pool, if you like, even prepared to go into politics because it is so | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
difficult, nasty and the rest of it. I will not pick out a name, I just | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
feel there is a hell of a lot of talent in the Labour Party, we still | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
had amazing people working for the Labour Party, they have shown that | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
in recent days. But as somebody who just thinks there is nothing wrong | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
in being obsessed with winning, because without that you cannot do | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
anything, I really worry about where we are, right now. | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
Good to talk to you, thank you for joining us on BBC News, Alistair | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
Campbell, former director of communications at Downing Street. | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
You are watching the BBC News special coverage of the results of | :04:16. | :04:22. | |
this referendum on the relationship with the E U. That relationship is | :04:23. | :04:34. | |
to be broken 43 years after the late -- decision to go into it in 1975. | :04:35. | :04:43. | |
It is a humongous decision that the British voters have taken, and there | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
are many decisions to be taken in the future. After more than four | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
decades in the EU, over 70 million people vote to leave. | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
David Cameron says he is now no longer the right person | :04:56. | :04:58. | |
I will do everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
that steers our country to its next destination. | :05:03. | :05:12. | |
There was jubilation in the Leave camp - | :05:13. | :05:14. | |
but Boris Johnson warned that the vote wouldn't lead | :05:15. | :05:16. | |
Nothing will change over the short term except that work will have | :05:17. | :05:25. | |
to begin on how to give effect to the will of the people, | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
and to extricate this country from the supranational system. | :05:29. | :05:37. | |
Dramatic falls for both the pound and the markets following the news - | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
but the Bank of England says it's taking all necessary steps to keep | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
After Scots vote overwhelmingly to remain in the EU, | :05:44. | :05:50. | |
Nicola Sturgeon puts the prospect of a second vote on Scottish | :05:51. | :05:52. | |
It is a significant and material change in circumstances, | :05:53. | :05:59. | |
and it is therefore a statement of the obvious that the option | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
of a second referendum must be on the table. | :06:03. | :06:18. | |
And Matthew Amroliwala in Brussels. Leaders here have a blunt message -- | :06:19. | :06:27. | |
Leave is Leave, now get on with it. After more than 40 years, Britain | :06:28. | :06:41. | |
has voted to end its membership The vote was decisive - | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
52% chose to leave the EU, Within hours, David Cameron | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
announced he was standing He will leave office in October of | :06:51. | :06:56. | |
this year. He said he'd stay in Number Ten | :06:57. | :07:06. | |
for the next few months but that the country | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
required fresh leadership. Boris Johnson, who campaigned | :07:10. | :07:11. | |
for a Leave vote, said the UK now had a glorious opportunity | :07:12. | :07:13. | |
to pass its own laws, set its own taxes and find its voice | :07:14. | :07:16. | |
in the world again. Let's take a closer look | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
at the final result which, shows that Leave secured its victory | :07:21. | :07:22. | |
by a margin of more In total, 17.4 million people voted | :07:23. | :07:25. | |
for the UK to leave the EU. That compares with the 16.1 million | :07:26. | :07:32. | |
voters who backed Remain. More than 72% of eligible | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
voters took part. That is people who were registered | :07:37. | :07:45. | |
to vote. In England, more than 15 million | :07:46. | :07:48. | |
people voted for the UK to leave the European Union, | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
13.2 million people backed Remain. In Scotland every voting area came | :07:52. | :07:53. | |
out in favour of Remain. 62% of Scottish voters backed | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
Remain, with 38% In Wales, Leave won over 52% | :07:57. | :07:58. | |
of the vote and secured the most votes in all but five | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
of the 22 counting areas. In Northern Ireland, | :08:05. | :08:11. | |
which shares a land border with the European Union, | :08:12. | :08:14. | |
voters backed Remain - with 55% of voters choosing | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
to remain in the EU with 45% voting Plenty for us to talk about to say | :08:19. | :08:30. | |
the least. Will have all the reaction from Westminster, from the | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
City of London, where it has been turbulent, and other parts of the | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
EU. At first, our political correspondent Carole Walker reports | :08:40. | :08:42. | |
on the dramatically bent so far. -- but first. | :08:43. | :08:45. | |
The people have voted for a new destiny for Britain. | :08:46. | :08:47. | |
This means that the UK has voted to leave the European Union. | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
It is a decision few predicted at the start of this campaign. | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
A decision which has forced the Prime Minister out of office. | :08:54. | :08:55. | |
There was no hiding the emotion as David Cameron with his wife, | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
The British people have voted to leave the European Union | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
He had fought and lost the battle to persuade the country to stay | :09:05. | :09:12. | |
I fought this campaign in the only way I know how which is to say | :09:13. | :09:17. | |
directly and passionately what I think and feel, | :09:18. | :09:19. | |
But the British people have made a very clear decision to take | :09:20. | :09:31. | |
a different path and as such, I think the country requires | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
fresh leadership to take it in this direction. | :09:35. | :09:40. | |
I will do everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
over the coming weeks and months, but I do not think it would be right | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
for me to try to be the captain that steers our country | :09:49. | :09:50. | |
From the moment the results starting coming in, just after midnight, | :09:51. | :09:57. | |
The total number of votes cast in favour of Leave was 82,000. | :09:58. | :10:06. | |
By the end of the night, Leave had won a clean sweep | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
across the north of England, the Midlands, the east | :10:10. | :10:11. | |
London was the only region of England to support | :10:12. | :10:17. | |
The result in Flintshire reflected the outcome across Wales. | :10:18. | :10:25. | |
But Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU, | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
Sinn Fein said it intensifies the case for a vote | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
on whether Northern Ireland should leave the United Kingdom. | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
And Scotland, as expected, voted by a clear majority | :10:40. | :10:41. | |
Scotland's First Minister said it was democratically unacceptable | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
for it to be taken out of the EU against its will. | :10:47. | :10:52. | |
Scotland does now face that prospect. | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
It is a significant and material change in circumstances | :10:56. | :10:57. | |
and it is therefore, a statement of the obvious | :10:58. | :11:00. | |
that the option of a second referendum must be on the table | :11:01. | :11:02. | |
But at Westminster, jubilant Leave campaigners have been celebrating. | :11:03. | :11:11. | |
Nigel Farage said he was thrilled that the country had | :11:12. | :11:16. | |
decided to break free from what he called a failing, | :11:17. | :11:18. | |
17 million people have said we must leave the European Union. | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
A Government that gets on with the job. | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
A Government that begins the renegotiation of our | :11:30. | :11:37. | |
Boris Johnson struggled through the throng at his home. | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
Then paid tribute to the Prime Minister | :11:41. | :11:42. | |
for his bravery in giving the British people their say. | :11:43. | :11:44. | |
I believe we now have a glorious opportunity. | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
We can pass our laws and set our taxes entirely according | :11:48. | :11:49. | |
We can control our own borders in a way that is not discriminatory | :11:50. | :11:58. | |
but fair and balanced and take the wind out of the sails | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
of the extremists and those who would play | :12:02. | :12:03. | |
But in the City, shares plunged and the pound fell dramatically | :12:04. | :12:14. | |
despite all the attempts at reassurance from political | :12:15. | :12:16. | |
leaders and the Bank of England which promised to take whatever | :12:17. | :12:18. | |
measures were necessary to support the economy. | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
And there are now questions over the future of the Labour leader, | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
who has been blamed for a lacklustre campaign to remain in the EU | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
which failed to convince many Labour supporters. | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
Clearly, there are some very difficult days ahead. | :12:37. | :12:38. | |
The value of the pound has already fallen and there will therefore be | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
job consequences as a result of this decision. | :12:43. | :12:44. | |
REPORTER: The Prime Minister has resigned. | :12:45. | :12:46. | |
Now two senior Labour MPs have tabled a motion of no-confidence in | :12:47. | :12:58. | |
Mr 's leadership. I think Jeremy Corbyn should resign | :12:59. | :13:01. | |
as leader of the Labour Party. This was a test of leadership, | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
the European referendum campaign. He was very half-hearted | :13:05. | :13:06. | |
in the leadership he gave For Britain, for Europe | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
as the country embarks on a new and uncertain | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
future outside the EU We can talk about, clearly, the kind | :13:17. | :13:38. | |
of strategy that will be in place over the next few months, because it | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
will be very complex in terms of the legal requirements. But some very | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
raw politics happening, not just within the Conservative Party, but | :13:48. | :13:49. | |
as Alistair Campbell signalled, within Labour. | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
We can speak to the Labour MP Caroline Flint, who has | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
spent the last few weeks on the Remain campaign trail. | :13:55. | :13:56. | |
Caroline, we will come to the specific Labour question in a | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
moment, but you sense of how this campaign led to the result that we | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
got overnight? I think what became very clear is that, actually, there | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
were not enough flack that the Remain campaign could produce on the | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
economy, security, that was going to win over the feelings of many people | :14:18. | :14:20. | |
around our country, particularly outside of our big cities, that | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
their concerns about immigration trump that. It was a triumph of | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
feelings over fact. That is a worry I have had for some time, that many | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
of the people I represent, but also in other parts of the country, not | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
just in Labour heartlands but in Tory areas, a sense that small-town | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
Britain is being left behind, that the establishment and the elite are | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
not speaking their language and not listening to them. Unfortunately, | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
that is what won at the end of the day. It is with great regret. | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
Clearly, a decisive decision has been made, I believe we should | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
accept that and do as much as we can to make sure that we protect | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
people's living standards and jobs and opportunities in the future, but | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
there will be difficult decisions ahead as well as some of what we are | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
already seeing, some of the bumps and rocky road is affecting the | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
economy already. What was your assessment of the way that Labour | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
went about campaigning in those areas where, traditionally, it has | :15:25. | :15:25. | |
been strong? I think it is right there Labour | :15:26. | :15:38. | |
should have been expecting 70% to 80% of Labour voters voting Remain. | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
We've come out of this referendum with something under half of our | :15:43. | :15:48. | |
Labour voters voting Remain and the rest voting Leave and that's for a | :15:49. | :15:51. | |
number of reasons. I think Labour has failed to understand the | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
concerns of people in communities in Doncaster and elsewhere in the | :15:57. | :15:59. | |
country and in Wales. I think that actually, you know, we never really | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
talked about the immigration concerns and also Jeremy has to take | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
some responsibility because he provided a rather nuanced message | :16:11. | :16:13. | |
about the European Union that was not as positive as I would have | :16:14. | :16:19. | |
liked it to have been and if you add to that, I think his, you know, his | :16:20. | :16:25. | |
refusal really to engage in some of the questions about immigration, | :16:26. | :16:28. | |
that combination saw us fail so badly last night. | :16:29. | :16:34. | |
Where does that leave him as leader because, of course, some of your | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
colleagues are already making some outspaen remarks about wanting to | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
change the leadership? Well, I understanding why colleagues are | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
supporting the motion and I understand why colleagues are | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
worried because you know Huw, who knows what's going to happen next? | :16:51. | :16:58. | |
As well as having to deal with our decision to leave and all the | :16:59. | :17:02. | |
ramifications of that. Within six months we may have a general | :17:03. | :17:05. | |
election and the question that Labour and Jeremy has to ask is are | :17:06. | :17:14. | |
we ready? Can we bridge the gap between those who voted Remain and | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
those members who think Jeremy is great and for others who are | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
drifting away from us. My worry is if there is an election, there maybe | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
another party that wants to fill that gap in our Labour heartland | :17:28. | :17:30. | |
areas and I don't want to see that happen. So look, leadership is about | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
responsibility. It is about recognising failure and if you've | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
contributed to it and it is about stepping up and explaining do you | :17:40. | :17:41. | |
acknowledge that and what are you going to do about it? That's what I | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
want to hear from Jeremy and I'm sure we will have that discussion on | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
Monday night at the PLP. Based on the leadership of Mr Corbyn so far, | :17:53. | :17:57. | |
Caroline, what are your thoughts on the prospects of getting the kind of | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
change that you think is needed? I have to say I'm being tweeted by | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
some of Mr Corbyn's supporters who are angry that I am talking to you | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
about this at all which maybe isn't surprising given the fact that you | :18:13. | :18:15. | |
are critical, what are the prospects of the kind of change that you want. | :18:16. | :18:25. | |
The Labour Party exists to win elections, to do great things for | :18:26. | :18:27. | |
communities around the country and we have to find a way to bridge, if | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
you like, sometimes the gap between our metropolitan Labour Party | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
members and supporters and those in the communities around Britain that | :18:36. | :18:40. | |
are more working class, white, but also people who have, you know, | :18:41. | :18:45. | |
maybe more of a Labour attitude rather than a socialist attitude to | :18:46. | :18:48. | |
things which is about how are they being looked after in their | :18:49. | :18:51. | |
community? What is the future for them? When we bridge that gap, we | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
win elections. Now, look, I know people don't like us talking about | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
how we sort out ut party, but if we can't talk about what went wrong for | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
Labour in this big test across the country, then when do we have that | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
conversation? You know, I don't want us to find that we go into another | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
election, whether it is in 2020 or in six months time, not realising | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
what the problem is and how we bridge the gap. I think that's about | :19:22. | :19:29. | |
straightforward, honest politics, it is about talking honestly about | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
where we need to go. I hope the many Labour voters who didn't vote Remain | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
last night will feel if Labour politicians are actually getting out | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
there and being open about understanding their concerns, | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
understanding our failure to connect with them, that's part of the way | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
we, if you like, refresh and get our relationship on to better ground. | :19:50. | :19:52. | |
And you know, I'm doing this because, you know, I'm here for the | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
Labour Party, not for any individuals and you know, what I | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
think, Jeremy is as well and I campaigned with Jeremy during the | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
campaign, and he was great when he came to my constituency. I had him | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
on our leaflets, but the truth is at the moment, Jeremy's leadership | :20:09. | :20:11. | |
doesn't seem to be reaching out to those parts of Britain, those parts | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
of our Labour vote that we depend on to win a general election. | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
Just to spell it out, Caroline, just in case viewers haven't got the | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
message, you're saying in effect, that you want another leader? I'm | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
saying that I want leaders, Jeremy and to be honest, we had the similar | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
problems under Ed Miliband, I want Labour leaders to step up and | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
discuss properly and honestly why we're not reaching people, why are | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
we not connecting and if Jeremy has got something to say about how he's | :20:44. | :20:46. | |
going to put that right, I'm ready to listen. | :20:47. | :20:53. | |
Caroline, thank you very much for joining us on College Green outside | :20:54. | :20:56. | |
Parliament. Caroline Flint the Labour MP there with her pretty | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
forthright message. Wet get a reaction from Vicki Young in a | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
moment. I want to get an update on the financial markets. Let's join | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
Ben Thompson who is monitoring events in the City of London. | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
Huw, thank you very much. Yeah, let's take you straight to the | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
forward, it is the first hour of trade in New York. We were waiting | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
to see how they would respond to everything we have seen in Asia and | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
Europe. It is a mixed picture. You can see the Dow Jones down over 2%. | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
The S and P, a similar picture. The Nasdaq falling. It initially opened | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
in positive territory, but down, as you can see there. Nearly 3%. We are | :21:33. | :21:39. | |
getting indication too about what businesses and banks, what | :21:40. | :21:41. | |
organisations here in the City of London are thinking about what could | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
happen next. And what their future plans maybe and it is interesting we | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
talked earlier about Morgan Stanley and about their plans to relocate | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
staff in the event of a Brexit vote. Of course, the big organisations | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
have contingency plans in place. They've denied the process Sunday | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
way, but at the same time, they've said they're not going to wait for | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
the Article 50. The proceedings to begin of that divorce of the UK from | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
the European Union Council. They won't wait for that to begin before | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
they start making decisions about where they have their staff around | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
Europe. All this related to their investment banking division. Let's | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
talk with Keith Wade chief economist here at Schroders. We are looking at | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
the volatility on the markets. Just tell us what it means for the UK's | :22:27. | :22:29. | |
place in the world when we've decided to leave, clearly, a lot | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
still to be ironed out, but there is implications, aren't there, for the | :22:34. | :22:37. | |
wider economy? Oh, absolutely. This is where the negotiations in the | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
next trade agreement becomes so critical. So for example if you take | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
an industry like fund management, we have an arrangement where we can | :22:47. | :22:49. | |
passport our products into Europe and take advantage of the single | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
market. In two years time, the arrangement will come to an end and | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
we will need to replace it with something else or companies like | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
Schroders will have to think about relocating elsewhere in Europe and | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
that has an impact on jobs here and that has a negative effect on the | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
economy. And there are a lot of businesses in that situation. There | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
is a tendency to think these are bankers sat in offices talking about | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
numbers and trying to make predictions about what happens. When | :23:20. | :23:22. | |
you paint it in those terms, it will affect the money in our pocket? | :23:23. | :23:25. | |
Remember, the investments that we're looking at here, these are all part | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
of people's pensions and savings. So, if we see a big fall in the he | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
canitiy markets, that's reducing the amount of assets people have for | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
paying future pensions. They have got to pay more or accept a lower | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
pension. That volatility will matter. Maybe it is a few years down | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
the road. Maybe the markets will have recovered by then, but that's | :23:48. | :23:50. | |
why the trade deal will be so important. Keith, thank you very | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
much. The Dow in New York down just over 2%. The FTSE 100 here in London | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
down 266%. Winning back some of the losses we saw earlier. Significant | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
falls when the markets opened, but the feeling here is they are trying | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
to wait and see. See what happens and see what deals can be done and | :24:08. | :24:10. | |
see how it plays out and the implications will be felt here for a | :24:11. | :24:13. | |
long time. We will keep an eye on that. More from us later. | :24:14. | :24:22. | |
With me is Young our chief political correspondent. There is turmoil in | :24:23. | :24:24. | |
the Conservative Party, of course, there is the Prime Minister | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
announced his resignation. Nobody is questioning that and that's key to | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
the day's events, but there is a lot of tension in Labour too and I'm | :24:34. | :24:36. | |
just thinking after Alastair Campbell and Caroline Flint came on | :24:37. | :24:40. | |
to say they were expressing grave doubts about the prospects under | :24:41. | :24:43. | |
Jeremy Corbyn, how significant is that, do you think? I think it is | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
incredibly significant and the reason is the departure of David | :24:48. | :24:50. | |
Cameron and the election of a new Tory leader means that the | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
possibility of a general election has to be there within possibly the | :24:55. | :24:57. | |
next year. So Labour MPs, particularly in the north of | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
England, in Wales, they are looking at sair their seats at the general | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
election last year, they had Ukip breathing down their neck in many of | :25:05. | :25:07. | |
these areas, this is not new for the Labour MPs. They know that there is | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
an issue with immigration amongst their supporters and they know Ukip | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
has done very well in their areas, it is focussing their minds. There | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
was a Shadow Cabinet meeting. It went on for hours, it was focussed | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
what are the pressure for the Labour Party going forward? They fear what | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
happened to them in Scotland a collapse of their support could be | :25:29. | :25:31. | |
happening in the north of England and possibly in parts of Wales as | :25:32. | :25:34. | |
well. So we now have next week the motion of no confidence which may | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
well be voted on, that would mean a secret ballot on Tuesday and there | :25:40. | :25:43. | |
are people willing to come forward and challenge Mr Corbyn. He has been | :25:44. | :25:46. | |
under immense pressure because of the referendum. They felt this was | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
his chance to show his leadership qualities and they feel he failed. | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
Finally, just at this stage, your thoughts on the way that the | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
Conservative leadership campaign will start to shape up. Let's face | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
it from today on wards? David Cameron made it clear that he wants | :26:03. | :26:05. | |
to be gone really by the conference, the party conference at the end of | :26:06. | :26:08. | |
September. So things will have to get going and I can tell you that | :26:09. | :26:11. | |
Tory MPs are already discussing it. They are discussing who they will | :26:12. | :26:14. | |
put forward on the ballot. It is incredible to think after this huge | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
democratic exercise where the British people have voted in their | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
millions to leave the European Union, a huge decision which will | :26:23. | :26:25. | |
have far, far-reaching implications now, our next Prime Minister will be | :26:26. | :26:30. | |
chosen by Tory MPs and Tory Party members. They are talking about | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
that. Two will go forward on a ballot. So a lot of negotiating | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
going on. A lot of people sounding things out about who might be on the | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
ballot, Boris Johnson, of course, today a very interesting speech by | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
him, trying to calm people down, but also trying to appeal to those who | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
voted Remain, trying to appeal to young people too. He really wants to | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
have a broad church there as he obviously wants to go forward. For | :26:54. | :26:56. | |
now, Vic kirks i, thank you. Coverage of the referendum result | :26:57. | :27:14. | |
continues on the BBC News Channel. We're staying in Downing Street. We | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
are heading around the globe for the reaction and analysis. At 7pm | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
tonight, there is a special programme on BBC One, The Big | :27:23. | :27:29. | |
Decision with Nick Robinson taking stock of today's momentous events. | :27:30. | :27:33. | |
For now, we will leave you with a reminder of what happened. Trying to | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
take stock and really trying to take it all in, what has happened over | :27:38. | :27:45. | |
the past 12 hours. At 4.40am, we can say the decision taken in 1975 by | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
this country to join the Common Market has been reversed by this | :27:50. | :28:00. | |
referendum to leave the EU. It is a victory for ordinary people. Decent | :28:01. | :28:04. | |
people. It is a victory against the big merchant banks, against the big | :28:05. | :28:08. | |
businesses and against big politics and I'm proud of everybody that had | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
the courage in the face of all the threats, everything they were told, | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
they had the guts to stand up and do the right thing. Inevitably, there | :28:18. | :28:22. | |
will be a period of uncertainty and adjustment following this result. We | :28:23. | :28:28. | |
will not hesitate to take any additional measures required to meet | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
our responsibilities as the United Kingdom moves forward. I will do | :28:33. | :28:37. | |
everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship over the coming | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
weeks and months. But I do not think it would be right for me to try to | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
be the captain that steers our country to its next destination. I | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
am proud of Scotland and how we voted yesterday. We proved that we | :28:52. | :28:56. | |
are a modern, outward looking, open and inclusive country and we said | :28:57. | :29:00. | |
clearly, that we do not want to leave the European Union. I believe | :29:01. | :29:08. | |
the British people have spoken up for democracy in Britain and across | :29:09. | :29:13. | |
Europe. I think we can be very proud of the result. | :29:14. | :29:20. |