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A wealthy area of California
is swamped in dangerous mudslides. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
At least 15 people have been killed
in the hills around Santa Barbara. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
Rescue workers use helicopters
to pull people to safety in an area | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
that is home to some of America's
most famous media stars. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:27 | |
The great Republican exodus. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:28 | |
Another top conservative lawmaker
says he's calling it quits | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
amid signs the party is struggling. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
Also on the programme... | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
Thousands of tourists remain
stranded at popular European ski | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
resorts after heavy snow
in the Alps. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
Dumped by Trump -
banished by Breitbart - | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
what's next for the former
presidential advisor Steve Bannon? | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
Get in touch with us using
the hashtag #BeyondOneHundredDays. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Hello and welcome -
I'm Katty Kay in Washington | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
and Christian Fraser is in London. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
At least 15 people have been killed
in southern California by flash | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
floods and mudslides. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
Huge boulders rolled down hillsides
crushing cars and smashing | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
into homes after the first rain
for several months in | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
Santa Barbara county. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
Around 50 kilometres of the main
coastal road have been closed | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
and rescuers are trying to reach
a group of 300 people thought to be | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
trapped in one neighbourhood,
east of Santa Barbara, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
James Cook reports. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:32 | |
On California's Pacific coast,
ordeal by the elements continues. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:42 | |
First, they endured the largest fire
in the state's history. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Next came torrential
rain, more intense | 0:01:45 | 0:01:46 | |
than anyone here could remember. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
Then, within minutes, destruction,
caused by an unstoppable wall of mud | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
and debris. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
This 14-year-old survived. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
Even she does not know how. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
Firefighters using rescue dogs
heard her screams and worked for | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
hours to pull her from
the wreckage of her home. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
Her family's fate is unknown. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
Everyone here, it seems,
has their own incredible story of a | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
struggle to survive. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
Once the boulders and
trees came through our | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
house we climbed up onto the roof
and waited till the creek went down | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
a bit and then we climbed off
the roof and got to our neighbour's. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:30 | |
We just got pulled out
of there by the firefighters. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
Police are now rescuing neighbours. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:41 | |
We heard a little baby crying. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
We dug down and found a little baby. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:50 | |
Don't know where it came from, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
Don't know where it came from, we
got the out. All the more our | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
abysmal. I hope it's OK, they too
could write to the hospital but it | 0:02:54 | 0:03:00 | |
was just a baby, four feet down in
the mud, in nowhere. I'm glad we got | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
it him. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
A mother and her newborn baby
are winched to safety. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
The little girl makes it
onto the roof of her | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
seven-year-old brother
is saved as well. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
Terrifying moments but
they are the lucky ones. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
How do you describe it? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
It is devastating. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
The fire created a situation where
the dirt was able to wash down. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
Had we still had all the vegetation
on the hills it would not have been | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
as much of an issue. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:46 | |
Montecito... | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Why did it happen? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:57 | |
The downpour soaked
an area which had been | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
affected with wildfires. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
The earth was baked,
leaving it slick and hard. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
The water had nowhere
to go | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
but down, fast, into
the town of | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Montecito with deadly,
devastating effect. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
This is one of the most
exclusive | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
communities in the United
States, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
home to stars including
actor Rob Lowe and TV | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
presenter Ellan DeGeneres. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:24 | |
Oprah Winfrey posted this
video from her garden. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
See how deep the mud is. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
The destruction was not
confined to the coast. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
Further inland, in Burbank,
a suburb of Los | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Angeles, the cameras
captured | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
another mudslide in action. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:44 | |
The mud roared down here
with terrifying speed, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
sweeping everything in its path. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
Firefighters will not let us go
up that any further. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
They say the situation could change
in the blink | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
of an eye. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
As you can see, this
is how dangerous it is. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
The Pacific coast was hardest hit. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
The financial cost will be immense. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
The human toll, even higher. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
James Cook, BBC News, Montecito. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:20 | |
A rough month for them. First the
fires than this, no warning. Let's | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
move on to politics. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
Already this week two top
Republicans have announced | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
they won't run for office again -
it's part of an exodus which is very | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
worrying to Republican leaders
as they try to hang on to power | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
in this year's mid term elections. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Today, long term congressman
Darrell Issa said he's quitting - | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
yesterday it was Ed Royce,
the powerful chairman of the House | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
Foreign Affairs Committee. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:45 | |
And here's the real
problem for Republicans - | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
both those men come from districts
in California than Democrats have | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
a pretty good chance of winning. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
So far 31 Republicans have said
they don't want to run again - | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
while only 15 Democrats are leaving. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
Is it Washington's toxic politics,
is it Trump or is it the fear | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
of being back in the minority? | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
One of those joining the republican
exodus is congressman Charlie Dent. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
He was first elected
to the House in 2004 - | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
and more recently has been critical
of his own party under | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
President Trump. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:15 | |
He joins us now from Capitol Hill. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:23 | |
You are from Pennsylvania, it is a
swing state, are you worried that if | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
you leave, if congressmen from the
Republican Party leave, you are | 0:06:27 | 0:06:33 | |
opening up the opportunity for
Democrats to sweep the house in the | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
midterms? Well, clearly any time
incumbent members decided not to run | 0:06:36 | 0:06:46 | |
again from I will say swing
districts or marginal districts that | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
makes them more vulnerable. You just
mentioned two who are not running | 0:06:49 | 0:06:56 | |
again, even if you forget about the
time and for a moment, history | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
states that the party of the
president will usually experience | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
losses in the mid-term, this year is
no different. This midterm election | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
will largely be a referendum on
Donald Trump and his conduct in | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
office, that's a fact. We will have
to deal with it. The only question | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
is what type of a win will we be
facing in the mid-term? A hurricane | 0:07:15 | 0:07:23 | |
force win or something more than
that. I tell my colleagues they | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
better prepare for the worst and
hope for the best. As you sit down | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
with your family and colleagues made
the decision not to run again, was | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
Donald Trump a factor? A factor, but
not necessarily the factor in my | 0:07:36 | 0:07:45 | |
decision. I have been elected to
office now offer 28 years, I have | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
been voted 13 times, I am not going
to spoil a perfect record. I did not | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
have any serious threat from the
left or a credible threat from the | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
rights of way was not worried
election but I did think I'm young | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
enough and healthy enough I can do
something else with my life. There | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
has been a paralysis here caused by
the polarisation, just trying to | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
accomplish the most basic
fundamental tasks of governing, from | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
giving the government funded to not
defaulting on our obligations, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
providing hurricane relief, budget
agreements, these issues have become | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
enormously difficult to pass. I have
to say there is a frustration, for | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
me, in that regard because the one
committee that actually has to do | 0:08:24 | 0:08:30 | |
something every year, keep the
government running, I'm on that. We | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
saw with an example of
bipartisanship yesterday, with | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
Democrats and Republicans are
sitting around the table with Donald | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
Trump but the president lamented
these days the two parties can't get | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
along, they can't cut deals like
these two in the good old days. Why | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
is that? We have a lot of people who
come from very safe districts. Their | 0:08:48 | 0:08:55 | |
political safety is to the base or
in sometimes to the French that they | 0:08:55 | 0:09:01 | |
feel that's where their political
safety is, there's not a political | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
reward is the consensus and find
agreements and ultimately heaven | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
forbid a compromise, there is no
political reward therefore a lot of | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
these folks. I represented a strict
and is more a marginal swing | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
district can go either way, in
districts like mine is easier to | 0:09:15 | 0:09:22 | |
support consensus agreements, but
for a lot of members there is no | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
reward for that. They get accused of
being surrender rose and sell-outs. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
How much of this is the battle that
has been in the party for the soul | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
of the party, between the moderate
wing and the alt-right? Represented | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
by Steve Bannon. Well, before Donald
Trump we used to have a litmus test, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:46 | |
a purity test in the Republican
Party, who was pure enough? We used | 0:09:46 | 0:09:52 | |
to have these self designated
chiefs, the purity police who would | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
judge you. I was always considered
part of the pragmatic wing, so we | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
had a battle between the purists and
pragmatists. Then along comes Donald | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
Trump who is not ideological
doctrinaire, he's not a purist, said | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
other litmus test has become loyalty
to the president. That is really | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
confounding to all those previous
chiefs of the purity police. We are | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
in an odd spot now, where we have
this new dynamic that is frankly a | 0:10:15 | 0:10:22 | |
bit puzzling to me. It's a bit
confounding. Charlie dance, thank | 0:10:22 | 0:10:29 | |
you for joining us. Good luck in
your future endeavours. It's | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
fascinating. Republicans control
three branches of government yet | 0:10:34 | 0:10:42 | |
listening to Charlie there, he joked
about purists versus pragmatists, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
then you put Donald Trump on top,
you sense there is a malaise that | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
are set in within the GOP. The party
is worried about these mid-term | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
elections, they are worried that
these Republican congressman who | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
have decided not to run again, it's
not just about members of the house | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
who feel nervous about the future,
it's also about voters, and those | 0:11:03 | 0:11:09 | |
congressmen, people like Charlie
Dent actually reflect a malaise | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
among voters in the country. If
those people do not turn up in the | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
mid-term elections then as the
congressman was suggesting, the | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
party could be in foray hurricane,
November. If you are a moderate in | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
this country and you would like more
cooperation between Republicans and | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
Democrats then exactly the kind of
person you would want to have an | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
office is somebody like Congressman
Charlie Dent, and losing him suggest | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
the country will become more extreme
and a lot less so. He is one of | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
those rare centrists at the moment.
-- not less so. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
A top Democrat has gone rogue
on the Russia investigation. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Dianne Feinstein, the senior
Democrat on the Senate | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
Judiciary Committee,
has shocked Republicans | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
by unilaterally making a key piece
of testimony public. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Ms Feinstein put the full transcript
of the committee's interview | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
with the head of Fusion
GPS on her website. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
Fusion GPS is the firm that
commissioned the now infamous | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
dossier by former UK intelligence
officer Christopher Steele that | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
alleges collusion between the Trump
campaign and Moscow. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
The co-founder of Fusion GPS
is Glenn Simpson who was interviewed | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
for several hours by the Senate
committee last year. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:16 | |
In the transcript Mr Simpson says
Mr Steele was concerned that | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Donald Trump could be
blackmailed by Russia. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
Joining me is our North America
reporter Anthony Zurcher. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
And before we start Anthony I want
to ready you this tweet | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
from the president this morning. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
"The fact that Sneaky Dianne
Feinstein, who has on numerous | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
occasions stated that collusion
between Trump/Russia has not been | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
found, would release testimony
in such an underhanded and possibly | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
illegal way, totally without
authorization, is a disgrace. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:44 | |
Must have tough Primary!" | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
That's a reference to her running
again. The president clearly not | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
happy. I imagine Dianne Feinstein's
Republican colleagues also not happy | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
about this decision, to go out with
this testimony. And Dianne Feinstein | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
was one of the people at that
meeting that Christian mentioned | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
yesterday, an immigration where they
are all fairly friendly, convivial | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
type | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
then she releases this transcript. I
think they wanted to get the full | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
record out because leaks had been
coming out from this testimony, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
characterised to undermined
Christian steel's dossier. Last week | 0:13:26 | 0:13:32 | |
we saw the committee chair
recommends the Justice Department | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
investigate Christopher Steele for
lying to the FBI, so it seems lines | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
are being drawn here. What I wonder
is where this leaves the state of | 0:13:42 | 0:13:48 | |
those Congressional enquiries on to
the issue of collusion between | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Russia and possibly the Trump
campaign. You have very different | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
investigations going on on two of
those now you have Democrats and | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
Republicans totally at odds and I
can't believe those investigations | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
are actually functioning. That is
one Senate committee that is | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
actually managing to work. The house
intelligence committee totally | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
deadlocked, the Senate intelligence
committee shows signs of the | 0:14:11 | 0:14:20 | |
Republican, the only one that is
functioning. Neymar Donald Trump | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
talking about our Republicans had to
take control on this. We have him | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
shouting out to the public that
Republicans need to clamp down on | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
the investigation, and do away with
the witchhunt. It's interesting, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:40 | |
Senator Chris Coombes saying
yesterday there are at an impasse on | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
this particular committee and can't
see eye to eye. What you see in the | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
first quarter of this dossier is
that Republicans are tilting | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
towards, how did you come up with
this information, do you work for | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
the Russians? Rather than what did
you find out, it's quite insightful. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
The thing that strikes me, Anthony,
is just how easy it was, seemingly, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
for Glenn Simpson to find out about
Trump's connections to the Mafia. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:09 | |
Let's look at an extract from the
dossier. He says in the book first | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
weekend I started boning up on
Donald Trump I was able to find | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
connections to Italian organised
crime and later to a Russian | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
organised crime figure. We sort of
saw an explanation for opposition | 0:15:20 | 0:15:30 | |
research, when the first thing he
did was order a bunch of books on | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
Donald Trump, there's been a lot of
investigation into his business | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
record that is out there. When
Christopher steel went to Russia, he | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
started contacting his people there.
He said there were very cooperative, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
very open about their dealings with
Donald Trump. You must remember the | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
context, back in mid-2016, before
Russian ties became a hot button | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
political issue, they seemed more
willing to talk according to | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Simpson, later on, that was when his
sources started to climb up because | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
they started to feel the heat. Thank
you very much for joining us. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
Interesting also that as you pointed
out earlier, Steel is saying them, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:13 | |
Simpson is saying the FBI was
investigating this anyway. That will | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
really anger the Democrats. Maybe
that is why they find Sun has | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
released this. What they are saying
if this was not the dossier which | 0:16:21 | 0:16:26 | |
led to special counsel
investigation. The FBI were already | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
investigating the Russian links as
far back as June 20 16. Harry Reid | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
who was leading the Democrats in the
Senate at the time wrote to James | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
Comey and asked if he was
investigating Donald Trump, the New | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
York Times said there was not, now
we find out the FBI were | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
investigating Donald Trump as far
back as June without the dossier and | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
so the question is, why do they talk
about Clinton's investigation, into | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
the e-mails, and you did not talk
about Donald Trump? As you say, that | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
will not endear them to the
Republicans. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
Most people dream of lots of snow
when they go skiing - | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
but not this much. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:07 | |
Thousands of tourists are stranded
after heavy snow in the Alps cut | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
off towns and villages
across Switzerland, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
France and Italy. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
Visitors were even being airlifted
out of one of the most | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
popular Swiss ski resorts,
Zermatt. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
The avalanche risk in the area
is the highest it's been | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
for almost ten years. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Tom Burridge reports. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
This is the only way out
of Zermatt this morning. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
The luggage of tourists
stuck here airlifted out. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:36 | |
Heavy snow has closed all the roads. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
So those who can catch this shuttle
service to a nearby town. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
Waiting on that helipad this
lunchtime, Rebecca Smith. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
These are people waiting
for the next helicopter out. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
We spoke as she began
the first leg of a long | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
journey back to Manchester. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
A lot of people will
say you are stuck in | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
somewhere beautiful,
you can go skiing but | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
that is not the case,
you are stuck in a hotel room | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
because of the risk of avalanche. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:10 | |
So this morning,
helicopters were also busy | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
clearing avalanches. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
Blowing huge quantities
of snow off the | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
mountains, which has
fallen in recent days. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
In remote areas, one metre of snow
fell in just 24 hours. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
And although conditions in Zermatt
have improved this morning, the risk | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
of avalanche in the
area remains high. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:36 | |
A Swiss company captured this
avalanche just outside the town | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
last week. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
The deadly force abundantly clear. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
And this was the scene after
a recent avalanche in a French town. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
Further south in the resort
of Tignes, cafes hidden by the snow. | 0:18:55 | 0:19:02 | |
It was here that John Bromell from
Lincolnshire was snowboarding in | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
poor weather on Sunday. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
In Zermatt, the operation to get
tourists out on helicopters | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
continues. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
Looking forward to getting
back down the mountain. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
We live in Australia
and we will miss | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
the flight from Zurich
so we're happy to leave now. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Heavy snow this winter has
made many peoples skiing | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
holidays but with some slopes
here now closed, too much is causing | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
problems and treacherous conditions. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:33 | |
Steve Bannon's inflated
sense of self importance | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
couldn't save his job -
either at the White House | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
or at Breitbart news. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:41 | |
He was ousted yesterday as head
of the conservative website. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
It was spectacular fall from grace
for the man who styled | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
himself as the architect
of Donald Trump's | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
extraordinary victory. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
Mr Bannon's statements in the book | 0:19:49 | 0:19:50 | |
Fire And Fury were the last straw. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
The influential funders of Breitbart
pulled their support. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
Now the question is what happens to
the populist movement he championed? | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
Joshua Green chronicled
the relationship between Bannon | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
and Trump in his book
The Devil's Bargain | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
and he joins us now. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:10 | |
Thanks for coming in. What was Steve
Bannon thinking? Did he really think | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
you could get away with saying to a
reporter the kinds of things you | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
said about Donald Trump and his
family and keep his bosses support? | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
He did, because Bannon really
believe that Trump's and action was | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
the culmination of a set of forces
that existed independent of Trump. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:34 | |
-- Trump's election. He thought he
and not Trump was the true channel | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
of those forces, that recognised
himself in a movement where he was | 0:20:39 | 0:20:45 | |
the intellectual architect. We have
now learned to buy civilly that | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
voters support Trump and not Bannon
and he hears, fallen all the way | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
from the pinnacle of power. Knowing
the two men and having reported on | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
both of them as you have, what do
you think it was specifically the | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Donald Trump that was really the
last straw? For Trump, I think it | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
was a man taking credit for his
success. There have been news | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
reports to the effect that Trump was
upset about what Bannon had said | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
about his family, about these
potentially treasonous Russian | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
meetings, that was Bannon's quote,
but I think what it really was was | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
Trump for Bannon was taking
something away from his presidential | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
victory by claiming credit for it
and it is something Donald Trump | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
simply will not abide. That goes
back a while. We have seated on the | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
Saturday Night Live sketches where
Steve Bannon was the real president | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
and Trump was made to sit at the
tiny table. What happens now to | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
Steve Bannon? Is that it? I know
Bannon would like to remain relevant | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
and politics going forward, he still
believes he is an influential | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
figure, but without the platform of
Breitbart news and a serious radio | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
show, both of which he has lost,
it's not clear what the venue for | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
him to get his message out would be.
They put out a string of | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
administration and thistles on
Sunday saying this as a whole load | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
of trash, Fire And Fury, but if you
annihilate Steve Bannon, bury him in | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
the way you have, don't you tacitly
acknowledge that what he said is | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
true? It's difficult to come out and
call the book fake news, as | 0:22:12 | 0:22:19 | |
President Trump has, and then go out
and attacked one of the main sources | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
of that book. I know from my own
reporting with Bannon and other | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
senior officials that the port
represented it Michael Wolff's book | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
is essentially the correct one, that
Trump is a unfocused president, and | 0:22:31 | 0:22:38 | |
the Wesselingh is really in chaos
most of the time. I think the | 0:22:38 | 0:22:44 | |
problem for Bannon is that Trump
went to people and said listen, it's | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
time for you to choose, you are with
me or him. -- the White House is in | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
chaos. If you are with me, I want to
cut ties with Bannon and bury him | 0:22:53 | 0:22:59 | |
and that's precisely what White
House officials have been doing. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
Donald Trump has put a lot of money
in Michael Wolff's pocket but he | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
clearly does not like the book. He
has been talking about libel laws | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
today. If somebody says something
that is totally and knowingly false, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:15 | |
that the person that has been
abused, the famed, liable to have | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
meaningful recourse. Our current
libel laws are a sham. And a | 0:23:19 | 0:23:25 | |
disgrace, and do not represent
American values or American | 0:23:25 | 0:23:31 | |
fairness, so we are going to take a
strong look at that. Is this the man | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
who accused Ted Cruz's father of
being involved in the JFK shooting? | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
Or said President Obama was not born
in the US? Are we talking about the | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
same man?! We are, we are also
talking about an empty threat. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:51 | |
Donald Trump is not going to sue
Michael Wolff the deformation, and | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
if you does he will sell another
million bucks for the author. This | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
is Trump's way of issuing response
to something he does not like, to | 0:23:59 | 0:24:05 | |
try to take control of the news
cycle. I bet you slightly wish | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
Donald Trump had taken on your book
like this. Without not have done a | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
great thing for you? He could have
at least threatened a lawsuit, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
bright! | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
One of the things that's
interesting, people pointed out | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
yesterday there was this
extraordinary moment in which had | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
Steve Bannon being ousted from
Breitbart, the ultimate | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
nationalists, populist, the guy who
railed against illegal immigration, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
who wanted an American first agenda,
on the same day that Donald Trump | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
sits there with members of both
parties, discusses the possibility | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
of comprehensive immigration reform,
and announces he is going to Davos. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
That place of the global elite. It
has people here scratching their | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
heads and wondering, is all that
populism that Steve Bannon | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
represented, the National is, is
that God? Is this going to be the | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
year of the globalist Donald Trump?
He was the weather vein of the base. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:07 | |
He kept on the straight and narrow
as to what the alt-right thinking. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
Is that what John is thinking? I
would not call the base the | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
alt-right, I think those are
different. But dating the base is | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
very concerned about things like
immigration. They do not want the | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
president to row back on that. There
are also supporters of Donald Trump | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
who would still say Steve Bannon is
very useful for being the base | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
whisper and being in touch with the
base, and can you really alienate | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
him totally? Who knows, Steve Bannon
may be back, that's the way this | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
president tends to work. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
This is Beyond 100
Days from the BBC. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
Coming up for viewers on the BBC
News Channel and BBC World News - | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
the 100 women saying NOT US
to the ME TOO campaign - | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
and the famous French actress
who thinks 'pestering men' aren't | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
a problem - we'll be asking why. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
And translating Trump -
we go to cities around the world | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
to ask what they think
of the American president - | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
is he just as divisive
outside of the US? | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
We'll be finding out. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Quite a quiet spell of weather
across the British Isles for the | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
next few days but not without its
own problems. First an old weather | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
front lurches with intent across the
East, producing rain not just in | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
Ipswich, it has to be said. Further
west, the fog in some spots never | 0:26:24 | 0:26:30 | |
really cleared for the greater part
of the day. Any good news? Yes there | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
was, an awful lot more sunshine
around in the south and central | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
parts. Those clear skies by date, no
great problems, clear skies by | 0:26:38 | 0:26:45 | |
night, we may end up with a
widespread fog problem. Some low | 0:26:45 | 0:26:55 | |
cloud lurking close by to East
Anglia, and the south-east from that | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
weather front, good in its own right
produce hill fog. First up for the | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
new day on Thursday, fog patches,
some are really quite dense. Could | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
be a real issue if you are on the
move first thing. Quite a chilly | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
start I would have thought, a touch
of frost perhaps across parts of | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Scotland, and here in south-western
parts we may see that chance of fog. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:22 | |
So too through the western side of
the Pennines, Wales and West | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Midlands. Out east, the old weather
front will be speeding in as it | 0:27:25 | 0:27:33 | |
forms an area of low pressure close
by to the south-eastern quarter of | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
the British Isles, some low cloud
that will produce hill fog and | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
really one of those days. That cloud
will be thick enough for there to be | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
bits and pieces of rain and drizzle
on offer throughout the day in East | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
Anglia and the south-east. The odd
bit MPs in the North York Moors. The | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
best of the sunshine away to the
western side of Scotland, down | 0:27:53 | 0:27:59 | |
through Wales interview south-west
of England. If fog lingers, it may | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
well be your figures are well down
into those single figures. Not a | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
particularly warm start to the new
day on Friday, again that | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
combination of cloud and fog that
causes us a bit of concern. Friday a | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
quiet day, first signs of a weather
front trying to work in toward the | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
British Isles. Even as we get as far
ahead as the weekend, you see it | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
runs into this area of high pressure
across western Russia, making the | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
progress of that front very slow
indeed. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
This is Beyond One Hundred Days,
with me Katty Kay in Washington - | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
Christian Fraser's in London. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
Our top stories:
| 0:30:13 | 0:30:14 | |
15 people are now known
to have died in a series | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
of mudslides near Los Angeles -
emergency teams are still | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
digging into debris. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
And in the European Alps,
heavy snow leaves thousands | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
of tourists stranded -
some needed to be airlifted out. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Coming up in the next half hour:
| 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
One of France's best-known actresses
is among a hundred women to sign | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
an open letter warning
of a new puritanism after recent | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
sexual harassment scandals. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:42 | |
And a whale of a tale -
the humpback that took | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
a woman under its fin -
saving her from a tiger shark. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
Let us know your thoughts
by using the hashtag | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
'Beyond-One-Hundred-Days' | 0:30:51 | 0:31:01 | |
One hundred well-known French women
have signed an open letter | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
defending the right of men
to flirt with women. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
Actress Catherine Deneuve is one
of the signatories who says | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
the recent campaigns against sexual
harassment are creating | 0:31:13 | 0:31:14 | |
a new wave of puritanism. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
The open letter published
in Le Monde, says: "Men have | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
been punished summarily,
forced out of their jobs | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
when all they did was
touch someone's knee | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
or try to steal a kiss." | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
It went on to say: "Rape is a crime,
but trying to seduce someone, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
even persistently or clumsily,
is not - and nor is men being | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
gentlemanly a chauvinist attack." | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
We can speak to Sonia Bogdanosky
who's one of the women who signed | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
the letter in Le Monde. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
She is a film editor
and joins us from Paris. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:49 | |
I noticed, I hope you don't mind me
saying, a lot of signatories were of | 0:31:49 | 0:31:58 | |
an older generation, who might be
satisfied with the sexual freedoms | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
they won in the 60s, but your
critics would say that the battle is | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
hardly won. I would say it's not
something about sexual liberty. It | 0:32:05 | 0:32:13 | |
is more... It is some sort of woman
and about the way we can answer to | 0:32:13 | 0:32:21 | |
things that are not crime. We say
rape is a crime, but a lot of things | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
are not a crime and we are not only
victims. It is not about so much | 0:32:26 | 0:32:33 | |
sexual liberty, but the fact that we
can choose only be seen as victims, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:42 | |
we can answer to this fact has
happened. I have to say that I'm not | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
a nonperson, I'm not a celebrity,
I'm not Catherine Deneuve. A lot of | 0:32:47 | 0:32:54 | |
young people signed the letter. A
lot of unknown persons signed the | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
letter. It is not just one
generation. Speaking as a man, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
doesn't it come down to context, if
you hold a position of hower power | 0:33:03 | 0:33:12 | |
over a woman you have to be more
careful about how you approach | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
someone, can it be considered
aggressive or threatening and if it | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
can, you shouldn't do it. It is the
context isn't it? It is the context, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:28 | |
but Texn't is not talking about what
happens in work. The work place is | 0:33:28 | 0:33:34 | |
something special where people have
power and the text is more talking | 0:33:34 | 0:33:40 | |
about what happens in the metro, in
the street, between people who have | 0:33:40 | 0:33:46 | |
not power relations. And in the
metro I don't feel I have got more | 0:33:46 | 0:33:52 | |
or less power than the man who will
be annoying me. So yes I'm not a | 0:33:52 | 0:33:58 | |
man, I can't judge as a man. But it
is normal for me. If you were felt | 0:33:58 | 0:34:04 | |
up in the metro, you would say stop
and be angered by that? Yes. But I | 0:34:04 | 0:34:11 | |
wouldn't feel necessarily
humiliated, I wouldn't feel I would | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
be a victim. The first time I was
conscious of that, I wasn't in the | 0:34:14 | 0:34:22 | |
metro, I was young and there was a
guy, he was drunk and he had a | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
bottle and he put the bottle on his
penis and his put the bottle near | 0:34:26 | 0:34:39 | |
the face of a woman and the woman
slapped the the bottle and said, now | 0:34:39 | 0:34:47 | |
you stop this. If I wouldn't be this
woman I would be totally scared and | 0:34:47 | 0:34:54 | |
shocked and I thought, oh, but can I
be something more than a victim. I | 0:34:54 | 0:35:02 | |
don't really understand Sonia what
this let letter is about and if it | 0:35:02 | 0:35:10 | |
is no about the work place and all
the people we have seen they have | 0:35:10 | 0:35:16 | |
been sacked, because it because they
abused their pow ever over a younger | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
woman. I don't understand why a
25-year-old woman should have to put | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
up with that. Don't you want a work
environment where a 25-year-old | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
woman can turn up for work and an
older guy who wants to try a kiss, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:34 | |
she shouldn't have to put up with
that? I want to work normal with | 0:35:34 | 0:35:42 | |
normal ways of dealing with people.
But if you are to sue somebody, to | 0:35:42 | 0:35:52 | |
denounce somebody if there is a
problem at your work place, it has | 0:35:52 | 0:35:58 | |
to be done in legal ways. That is
what this text is also about. You | 0:35:58 | 0:36:05 | |
can't just consider that a hashtag
should solve the problem. But the | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
people who have been fired have been
fired following investigations and | 0:36:09 | 0:36:15 | |
those organisations believed that
the men behaved inappropriately. I | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
imagine that you would want an
environment in which it is safe for | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
women to turn up to work and
therefore organisations following an | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
investigation get rid of those men
who abuse their power. In France, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
there is at least one case that I
have known about a man who was | 0:36:31 | 0:36:38 | |
dismissed from his job and there was
not, there was just... The complaint | 0:36:38 | 0:36:44 | |
against him. There was not something
legal and there was, well, it's more | 0:36:44 | 0:36:51 | |
complicated, but that is not for me,
the main point of this text. That is | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
not the reason I signed this text.
Thank you very much for being with | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
us. I was reading a letter in the
Times the other week, an article | 0:37:01 | 0:37:08 | |
actually by Giles Coren, he said
that after the hashtag Me Too | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
campaign he had been writing to a
colleague, something who offered him | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
work and he didn't know this woman
and wrote back said I would love to | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
take on the work and then wrote,
kiss, kiss, two crosses and he | 0:37:20 | 0:37:25 | |
stopped before he sent it. He
thought, I don't know is in woman, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
why am I sending the two kisses. So
he is changing his behaviour and he | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
said, is that a good thing, is it
making me think about the way I | 0:37:33 | 0:37:42 | |
approach woman or is the paranoia
that men face. Perhaps we need an | 0:37:42 | 0:37:48 | |
open and difficult conversation
about this, is it, why should he put | 0:37:48 | 0:37:54 | |
kisses, he wouldn't be giving her
kisses? If it is a purely | 0:37:54 | 0:37:59 | |
professional situation. You wouldn't
do it with your Ed toer. -- editor. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:06 | |
Always does it make the person who
is on the receiving end of this feel | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
uncomfortable. I'm 53, it doesn't
happen to me, but when I was in my | 0:38:11 | 0:38:18 | |
20s, routinely older men in
positions of power would hit on he. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:24 | |
It happens to all the women I know.
Why should young women have to be in | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
that situation. If we have go over
board in one area where men don't | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
feel they can put XX on an e-mail,
maybe that is no bad thing. I'm in | 0:38:33 | 0:38:39 | |
my 40s, they don't hit on me any
more either. Right. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:47 | |
Donald Trump's supporters give
the President a lot of latitude. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
But one area they are very wedded
too is clamping down | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
on illegal immigration. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:53 | |
So when Mr Trump yesterday suggested
he would support giving illegal | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
immigrants a path to US citizenship
- there were cries of | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
outrage from his base. | 0:38:58 | 0:38:59 | |
One ardent conservative supporter
tweeted that Mr Trump would lose | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
a lot of support if he went ahead
with a more liberal | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
approach to immigration. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
The issue is pressing
because the President is trying | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
to do a deal with Democrats
on children brought here | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
illegally by their parents -
the programme known as DACA. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Let's speak to Alan Gomez -
an Immigration reporter for USA | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
Today and joins us from Miami. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
You listened to the president's
comments with those democrats and | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
Republicans yesterday, where does
the president stand on immigration? | 0:39:26 | 0:39:32 | |
That is a good question. If
everything we heard from the meeting | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
yesterday, he seemed very open to
providing a path to legalisation for | 0:39:36 | 0:39:44 | |
these 800,000 young undocumented
immigrants, referred to as Dreamers, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
he said he is open to providing a
path to legalisation for all 12 | 0:39:49 | 0:39:55 | |
million undocumented immigrants. But
the president has gone in a few | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
different directions when talking
about immigration throughout the | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
campaign he got very hardline and
promised there would be no amnesty | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
and they would have go back home.
But once he came into office he did | 0:40:05 | 0:40:12 | |
eliminate the programme that
protects those people but urged | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
congress to pass a solution to give
them a perm Nantes home in the | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
United States -- permanent home in
the United States and he was open to | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
a more broad legalisation. He was
leaving the details to congress. It | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
is interesting, I covered the
election as I travelled around, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
there were some issues that
supporters of Donald Trump kept | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
coming back to and immigration is
one. I think that many of Trump's | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
supporters may accept there has to
be something done about these young | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
people brought to America by their
parents illegally. I don't think | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
they would accept a comprehensive
reform to give 12 people here a pass | 0:40:47 | 0:40:53 | |
to citizenship. I don't see that
flying with his base, do you? I | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
think you're assessment is perfect.
These 800,000 young people are a | 0:40:58 | 0:41:03 | |
different group. Even
anti-immigration groups, some of the | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
groups who have long fought for
anything they describe as amnesty | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
have said they're different and they
didn't make the decision to come to | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
the United States and they have been
educated here and assimilated to the | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
country. A lot don't even speak
Spanish. And they make the argue m | 0:41:19 | 0:41:26 | |
that we will make exception in one
case in exchange for more border | 0:41:26 | 0:41:33 | |
security and more interior
enforcement. But if he talks about a | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
path to citizen ship for 11
undocumented immigrants, that will | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
be different and his base would blow
up and say he lied on the campaign | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
and is going back on one of his
central promises. Big thing left | 0:41:45 | 0:41:51 | |
nowhere despite is in 50 minute
round table, whether you do | 0:41:51 | 0:41:58 | |
something on it. Here is the moment
it was suggested they could do DACA | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
in isolation. What about a clean
DACA bill with a commitment we go | 0:42:03 | 0:42:11 | |
into a comprehensive immigration
reform like we did back when Kennedy | 0:42:11 | 0:42:16 | |
was here. I think that is what Dick
is saying we will do DACA and then | 0:42:16 | 0:42:23 | |
start on phase two. That would be
would be comprehensive. A loft o' | 0:42:23 | 0:42:31 | |
people would like to see that. You
need to be clear. What the Senator | 0:42:31 | 0:42:42 | |
is asking, you have to be security.
I think that what is you said. I | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
think you said something different.
The transcript of that didn't appear | 0:42:46 | 0:42:52 | |
in the official transcript. Here the
tweet that Donald Trump sent out | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
after: | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Are the Republicans going to let him
get away with doing DACA without | 0:43:03 | 0:43:09 | |
putting the sprinkles on the top? No
the congress would not go along with | 0:43:09 | 0:43:15 | |
a bill that only allows legalisation
of the dreamers. It is what you get | 0:43:15 | 0:43:22 | |
in return. That is what they will be
negotiating, as we approach the | 0:43:22 | 0:43:32 | |
deadline for DACA ending. At first
the White House put a list of thing | 0:43:32 | 0:43:37 | |
they need, the worder wall and more
agents and an end to chain migration | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
and the end of the visa lottery and
crackdown on sanctuary cities. And | 0:43:42 | 0:43:47 | |
at the end of the meeting yesterday
after they closed the doors and the | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
press was kicked out, they did zero
in on a few points, DACA in exchange | 0:43:51 | 0:43:59 | |
or the end of visa lottery. But what
border security means, that is what | 0:43:59 | 0:44:04 | |
we are all going to be looking for
and what will determine whether | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
Democrats go along and President
Trump ends up signing the bill. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
Thank you very much. From a very
sunny Miami. I like you had the two | 0:44:11 | 0:44:23 | |
elder guys explaining to the female
Senator what she was saying! | 0:44:23 | 0:44:30 | |
Donald Trump's first year
in the White House has been followed | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
closely around the world. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:34 | |
We asked people on the streets
of seven cities around the world | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
what they made of the President
so far. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:38 | |
He is a good leader. He don't
represent ladies or anybody. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:12 | |
He is good at distracting people. He
has started straight. All his deeds | 0:45:14 | 0:45:21 | |
are negative and reflecting bad
images. For the Americans | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
themselves. He is a man of his
words. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:29 | |
I think he is very good. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
He backed out of Paris treaty. The
policy against Paris agreement one | 0:45:39 | 0:45:45 | |
of worst decisions of the year. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
In the start when he was the
president for the United States, he | 0:45:49 | 0:45:54 | |
was talking about to make the peace
in the Middle East. He has | 0:45:54 | 0:46:00 | |
recognised Jerusalem as our natural
capital. Recognises Jerusalem as the | 0:46:00 | 0:46:06 | |
capital of Israel was his worst
decision ever. Jews are trying to | 0:46:06 | 0:46:14 | |
get into America and it is more
difficult now. The immigration | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
attitude he has towards foreigners
can be negative in the future. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:25 | |
They voted for him, they get what
they asked for. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
Donald Trump one year on, the global
view. This is beyond 100 days. | 0:46:50 | 0:47:05 | |
Still to come - glass
ceilings exist, even | 0:47:05 | 0:47:06 | |
for former prime ministers -
we speak to New Zealand's Helen | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
Clark about her time at the UN,
and her global fight | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
against drug abuse. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:13 | |
The trial of the former football
coach Barry Bennell on charges | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
of child sexual offences has heard
from an alleged victim. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:20 | |
Barry Bennell, who's now known
as Richard Jones, denies 48 charges | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
of child sexual abuse. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:24 | |
Dan Roan reports. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:25 | |
Back in the 1980s, Barry Bennell
worked with some of the most | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
promising young footballers
in the north-west of England. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:30 | |
Youth team coach at Crewe Alexandra. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
He also had links
with Manchester City. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:39 | |
Liverpool Crown Court was told
the 64-year-old, who now causes of | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
Richard Jones, exploited
young boys dreams of | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
becoming footballers
in | 0:47:44 | 0:47:45 | |
order to sexually abuse them. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:46 | |
With Bennell watching
on via video link, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:55 | |
the jury was shown footage of
the first complainant's interview. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
He first met him when
he came as a scout for | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
Manchester City. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:01 | |
The alleged victim said
he was abused up to 100 times | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
along with other boys
by Bennell at his home | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
and in a shop he owned
in | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
Derbyshire village. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
He had up to three boys
share a bed with him. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
The said none dare
speak out for fear of | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
jeopardising their
football prospects. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:15 | |
The court was shown
a recording of this BBC | 0:48:22 | 0:48:27 | |
programme from November 2016
featuring other alleged victims | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
which the complainant said left him
in complete meltdown, prompting him | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
to contact police
for the first time. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:37 | |
Appearing behind a screen in court
he was cross examined by the | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
defence, and asked if his complaint
was financially motivated. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
I am not in it for
the money, he said. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
The court was read transcripts from
Bennell's interview with the police. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
He said he has had no
sexual contact with him | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
and remembered thinking
he | 0:48:53 | 0:48:59 | |
was the one that got away with it
he was not one of my victims. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
It is impossible. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:04 | |
The trial continues. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:11 | |
You're watching
Beyond One Hundred Days - | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
every 25 minutes here in America,
a baby is born addicted to opioids. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
The scale of both use and abuse
of the drugs in the United States | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
is hard to overstate. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
The UK too has an increasingly
urgent problem with drug overdoses | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
hitting record levels in England
and Wales, last year. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
And so it was with the scale
of the global crisis in mind, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
that our next guest took
up her new post as Commissioner | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
with the Global Commission
on Drug Policy. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:48 | |
Helen Clark has also served
as the Prime Minister of New Zealand | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
and as the head of the UN's
Development Programme. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
And she joins us in the studio now. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
I want to talk about your old job in
development. Development funding is | 0:49:55 | 0:50:02 | |
not very trendy now, there are
governments slashing budgets, what | 0:50:02 | 0:50:08 | |
effect does that have? It has a big
effect. Particularly on the poor but | 0:50:08 | 0:50:13 | |
stable countries, but not only has
the amount of the development | 0:50:13 | 0:50:19 | |
assistance plateaued give or take,
but much more of it is going into | 0:50:19 | 0:50:25 | |
the crisis end, the people fleeing
conflict and subject to horrific | 0:50:25 | 0:50:30 | |
disaster. The amount that is there
for the poor but stable who need the | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
hand up is not as good. So much
conflict around the world at the | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
moment, I was watching a densely
detailed documentary on the BBC the | 0:50:38 | 0:50:43 | |
House of Saud that talked of the
funding for arms and the amount that | 0:50:43 | 0:50:50 | |
is poured in, millions by the House
of Saud. Imagine if just a fraction | 0:50:50 | 0:50:55 | |
of that had gone to development. Oh
sure, if we could take what was | 0:50:55 | 0:51:01 | |
spent on militaries and put it into
peaceful development, the world | 0:51:01 | 0:51:06 | |
would be a transformed and more
peaceful place. Would it be | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
transformed in the sense when you
have gulfs between various | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
countries, between Europe and the
west and Africa, you pay in the long | 0:51:14 | 0:51:19 | |
run, because you get such huge
population movements? Yes if you | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
look at the movement out of sub-Saha
ran Africa, that comes from the | 0:51:23 | 0:51:34 | |
economic problems. These people are
young guys who want to work. To stop | 0:51:34 | 0:51:41 | |
that, Europe and America should
change its attitude to Africa and | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
get money in there to stop the flow?
Absolutely it is about a Marshall | 0:51:44 | 0:51:50 | |
plan for Africa, that wants
investment and opportunities to | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
employ its people. With that you
would pretty much curb the flow. As | 0:51:53 | 0:51:59 | |
long as there isn't opportunity,
people will seek it where it is. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
That is the history of people. My
forebearers came from this set of | 0:52:03 | 0:52:10 | |
islands. Not very trendy in America
either. No, let me talk about you | 0:52:10 | 0:52:17 | |
new job as hold of the global
commission on drugs policy, the | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
United States is in the grip of an
opioid epidemic. You have advocated | 0:52:21 | 0:52:29 | |
decriminalising, but a lot of the
people who get hooked on opioids in | 0:52:29 | 0:52:38 | |
the United States do so legally on
pain killers. What do you do about | 0:52:38 | 0:52:43 | |
that. I'm one of a range of
commissioners, there is about 25 of | 0:52:43 | 0:52:49 | |
us and lot are former heads of
governments and I'm aware of the | 0:52:49 | 0:52:57 | |
seriousness of the opioid crisis and
it needs a wide range of responses. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:02 | |
It needs substitution therapy as an
option. In the United Kingdom itself | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
there is a spike in deaths as well
and there needs to be more harm | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
reduction measures put in place. But
the general position of commission | 0:53:10 | 0:53:15 | |
which I've just joined but has been
going for seven or eight years, that | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
you need to move to a form of legal
regulation. Because prohibition is a | 0:53:18 | 0:53:24 | |
criminal's dream and raises the
price and puts more people in | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
danger. Do you think that drug
companies in the United States are | 0:53:27 | 0:53:33 | |
complicit in this opioid crisis the
country is having, because they have | 0:53:33 | 0:53:38 | |
pushed pain killers on to patients?
I understand there has been | 0:53:38 | 0:53:45 | |
incentives to doctors to prescribe
these drugs more than best practice | 0:53:45 | 0:53:50 | |
would suggest. But it is also true
that a large amount of the problem | 0:53:50 | 0:53:56 | |
comes not from those who have
received the legal prescription, but | 0:53:56 | 0:54:01 | |
from the diversion of the drugs
prescribed into other hands. And | 0:54:01 | 0:54:07 | |
there is rather loose regulation I
think in the United States which has | 0:54:07 | 0:54:11 | |
opened up this area of problem.
Thank you very much for joining us. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:17 | |
We are going to have more of this
problem, opioid addiction is huge in | 0:54:17 | 0:54:24 | |
the United States. Communities have
been decimated by these pills. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:31 | |
Something more cheerful. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
Now, a remarkable tail
of a woman and a whale. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
Marine biologist Nan Hauser
says a humpback whale | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
protected her from a tiger shark
during a research expedition | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
in the Cook Islands. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:42 | |
She says the humpback
tucked her under its pectoral fin | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
to keep her from harm. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:46 | |
Here's Nan now describing
what happened. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
There's a great big
tiger shark over there. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
Oh. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
I was in the water and he approached
me and he didn't stop. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:59 | |
And he put me on his head. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
I kept trying to get away
but for ten and a half minutes, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:09 | |
he was tucking me under his pectoral
fins and lifting me up out | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
of the water and just rolling around
with me on his body. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:16 | |
I saw a whale in the distance
that kept tail slapping | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
but I still never put it together
that there was a shark right there. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
Humpbacks are altruistic. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
They have this incredible
behaviour where they will | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
rush into a situation
and save another species. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:32 | |
I'm probably the first human
on record that they've saved. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
Um, man, the whale. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
Literally there. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
Thank you. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:43 | |
I love you too. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:44 | |
I love you too, I do. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
I love you. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:53 | |
Isn't that amazing? I would carry to
save your life. Would you you? It is | 0:55:53 | 0:56:01 | |
like snail and the whale that I read
to my son. He loves that book. The | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
sense that he is carrying her to
safety. We like that story a lot. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
Yeah. Coming up next... Humpback
whale altruism. Next on the BBC | 0:56:09 | 0:56:21 | |
outside source. Now we will see you
same time tomorrow. Thanks for | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
watching. Goodbye. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 |