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Beyond One Hundred Days. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
Fired in a tweet -
the US Secretary of State didn't | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
know he was out of a job
until he read it on Twitter. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
His replacement is Mike Pompeo -
the hawkish head of the CIA. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
How does this change
America's foreign relations? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:30 | |
Rex tiller sovereign said the
president called him after the news | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
broke. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:40 | |
Rex and I have been talking
about this for a long time. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
We got along actually quite well,
but we disagreed on things. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
America's new top diplomat
is tougher on Russia | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
than the President,
but shares his views | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
on the Iran nuclear deal. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
In his place, the CIA gets
it's first ever female | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
director, Gina Haspel. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
Also on the programme: | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
The poisoning in Salisbury "sounds
like the Russians" says | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Donald Trump, but can Britain count
on its closest allies? | 0:00:58 | 0:01:05 | |
It is a book where your express your
feelings about each day you have. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:13 | |
And the seven-year-old, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:14 | |
who lost his mother to cancer,
who is now helping others | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
through his words and pictures. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
Get in touch with us using the
hashtag 'Beyond-One-Hundred-Days'. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Hello and welcome -
I'm Katty Kay in Washington | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
and Christian Fraser is in London. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
On a very busy day in Washington,
we have another reminder that things | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
are rarely smooth in this White
House. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
No sooner had the President
fired his Secretary of State, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
than conflicting reports emerged
of whether Rex Tillerson even knew | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
he was being sacked. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:47 | |
Whether he did or he didn't,
it is a story with enormous foreign | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
policy implications for both
allies and adversaries. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Replacing Rex Tillerson
as America's top diplomat | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
is the head of the CIA, Mike Pompeo. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:59 | |
And in his place Gina Haspel,
a 30-year veteran at the CIA | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
and the first woman to head
the agency. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Pompeo takes a hardline
on Iran and North Korea | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
and would appear to be more in synch
with the President | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
than his predecessor. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
Here's Mr Tillerson
a few moments ago. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
I received a call today
from the President | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
of the United States
a | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
little after noon time
from Air Force One | 0:02:18 | 0:02:26 | |
and I've also spoken
to | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
White House chief of
staff, Kelly, to ensure | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
we have clarity as to
the | 0:02:30 | 0:02:31 | |
days ahead. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
My commission as Secretary
of State will terminate at | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
midnight March 31st. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:44 | |
We all have the experience of being
fired and that is a bad way to go. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
The BBC's North America Editor Jon
Sopel has more on what led | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
to today's dismissal. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
Rex Tillerson was flying back to
Washington from a trip to Africa | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
when the normally buttoned up
Secretary of State cut loose with | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
journalists. But unknown to him the
president had signed his death | 0:03:05 | 0:03:11 | |
warrant. Mike Pompeo will become the
new Secretary of State. He will do a | 0:03:11 | 0:03:17 | |
fantastic job. But Tillerson isn't
on Twitter so it fell to his chief | 0:03:17 | 0:03:26 | |
of staff to ring him to inform him.
Only this after the event from the | 0:03:26 | 0:03:32 | |
President. I wish Rex a lot of good
things, he is he is going to be very | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
happy. I think Rex will be much
happier now. I appreciate his | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
service. Tillerson's fate was
probably sealed when he called the | 0:03:40 | 0:03:46 | |
president a moron. A claim that the
Secretary of State didn't exactly | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
deny. I'm not going to deal with
petty stuff like this, this what I | 0:03:50 | 0:04:00 | |
don't understand from Washington. I
don't come from this place. There | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
was the public undermining of
Secretary of State by the President, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
sending family members to do some of
the work that would normally be done | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
by America's top diplomat and public
naming on Twitter: | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
The new man will be Mike Pompeo. He
spoke to the BBC century on. On | 0:04:25 | 0:04:37 | |
Russia he acknowledges the threat
they pose. I have every expectation | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
they will continue to do that, but
I'm confident America will be able | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
to have a free and fair election and
is sufficiently robust that the | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
impact they have on our election
won't be great. Tillerson and Trump | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
never gelled. The former CEO of
Exxon was a corporate Titan. Surely | 0:04:54 | 0:05:04 | |
the place with a lowest life
expectancy in the world - being a | 0:05:04 | 0:05:11 | |
member of the Trump administration. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
A short time ago, I got reaction
from Democratic Senator Chris Coons. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
He sits on the Foreign
Relations Committee. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
Senator, Coons you have put out
a statement saying that | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
Rex Tillerson was never really
supported by the | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
President when it came
to personnel and trust. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
Do you think that that
is why he was fired? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
Well, I think both the timing
and the process for the | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
firing of our Secretary of State
is deeply concerning. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
The timing suggests
that the Secretary of State | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
put out a very tough statement
standing in solidarity with Prime | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
Minister May and the people of
the United Kingdom in pushing back | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
against Russia's very aggressive
action and that may well have | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
contributed to the abruptness and
the very public nature with which | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Secretary of State
Tillerson was let go. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
It's also been clear for some time
that when it it came to | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
important issues -
North Korea sometimes | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
and the issue of Russia -
that Tillerson was not in | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
lock step with the President and if
you're not in lock step with the | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
President, as the US Secretary
of State, you can't really be | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
very effective? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
That is right, it is a real
challenge to be a Secretary of | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
State where your President publicly
cuts you out of major decisions, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
hands to his son-in-law, rather
than his chief diplomat critical | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
initiatives around
the world, or where | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
the values put forward
in the | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
President's budget
dramatically undermine | 0:06:29 | 0:06:39 | |
the ability of the Secretary | 0:06:40 | 0:06:41 | |
to lead a successful
diplomatic effort. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
The President has now two years
in a row suggested slashing | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
our Department of State by a third
and it's been very difficult for | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
Secretary Tillerson to preside over
our global diplomatic effort with | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
that head wind in his face. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
What do you make of
the way this was all | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
handled, this firing? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:56 | |
I'm concerned that the
President may have been | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
acting more out of the instincts
he adopted in ten years of presiding | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
over a reality TV show,
where the ultimate end | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
was to have him point at somebody
and yell, "You're fired" | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
in order to win a TV audience,
rather than a more measured, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
appropriate, disciplined process
by which he could have transitioned | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
from Secretary of State Tillerson
to his now nominee, CIA | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Director Pompeo. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
This is not a matter
of commanding a global TV | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
attention, this is a matter
of concern to our allies and | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
encouragement to our enemies
when the President fails to stand up | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
to Russian aggression,
particularly | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Russian aggression that has
so directly impacted one of our most | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
vital allies on earth,
the United Kingdom. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
So let's talk about Mike Pompeo
who is going to replace, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
assuming he is confirmed,
Rex Tillerson, as the new American | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Secretary of State,
what changes in American | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
policy when Mike Pompeo
is | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
running the Department of State? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
You have mentioned Moscow,
he is pretty hawkish | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
when it comes to Russia. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
The other area where
he is noticeably | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
more hawkish than Rex Tillerson
on is the question of Iran and the | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
nuclear deal. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
What happens now? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:02 | |
Well my concern is that Secretary
of State Tillerson was well known | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
to have had tensions with President
Trump over his urging that we stay | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
in the Iran deal and work with our
European allies to improve it | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
or to address Iran's aggressive
behaviour in the region. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
I'm concerned that the
CIA Director Pompeo | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
may encourage President Trump's
instincts borne of his campaign to | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
tear up this deal, rather
than embracing the very real | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
benefit we have seen. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
I think frankly given
the window we are in, where we | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
are trying to negotiate some
resolution with North Korea of their | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
even more aggressive nuclear weapons
programme that we have to be | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
attentive to how Kim Jong-un, the
dictator of North Korea, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
sees our handling of the Iran deal
negotiated by the previous | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
administration here
in the United States, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:54 | |
with our core European
allies as well as North | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
Korea and Russia. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
Senator Coons, thank you. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:58 | |
I can tell you the world
is watching all of this with | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
fascination. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Unprecedented for a Secretary of
State to be sacked so early in his | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
role. As you were saying,
humiliating for a man who was | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
reluctant to take the job in the
first place. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:19 | |
And with us now is our political
analyst Ron Christie. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Clear he he didn't know this was
coming and neither did his staff. I | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
know because last week his
under-Secretary of state was in | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
London and we talked about Rex
Tillerson, listen to that interview. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
How can your allies depend that
Secretary Tillerson will be there | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
and this stewardship of the policies
you're setting out? He will be here. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:48 | |
I know there was a time last year
when people referred to the | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
Secretary of State as Rexit, a take
off on Brexit, in the belief he was | 0:09:52 | 0:10:00 | |
leaving. He was never leaving. I
would like to put that part to bed | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
and let people know he is the
Secretary of Stay. Well he is not | 0:10:04 | 0:10:10 | |
staying and neither is Steve
Goldstein. He said today he hadn't | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
spoken with President Trump and he
didn't know the reasons and he was | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
subsequently fired for putting out a
statement that contradicted the | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
White House. What does this tell us
about the way the White House is | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
run? Good evening, I think this is
shocking to be Hon egs. The | 0:10:26 | 0:10:33 | |
Secretary of State is the most
senior diplomat in the President's | 0:10:33 | 0:10:39 | |
cabinet, the first person who held
the job was Thomas Jefferson. The | 0:10:39 | 0:10:47 | |
fact he found out by Twitter
indicates it was an impulsive | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
decision. You don't treat your chief
diplomat that way. What signal does | 0:10:52 | 0:10:58 | |
that say to the people around the
world? There were a lot of | 0:10:58 | 0:11:04 | |
disagreements, they didn't agree on
Iran and Saudi Arabia and North | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Korea and you have the situation
where the President decides to sit | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
down with Kim Jong-un while the
Secretary of State is in Africa. But | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
what do you make of the Russia
angle? In the last 24 hours, Rex | 0:11:16 | 0:11:22 | |
Tillerson said we are outraged that
Russia appears to have involved its | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
in the poisoning in the UK. At odds
with what Sarah Sanders said in the | 0:11:27 | 0:11:33 | |
briefing room? Interesting that the
Secretary of State stood shoulder to | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
should we are Theresa May and our
allies, so what the President should | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
have said. It doesn't surprised me,
I think the President thought | 0:11:40 | 0:11:50 | |
Tillerson can't get out saying
things like that, I'm the president, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
he works for me. I think Donald
Trump does not want anyone who will | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
challenge his authority. I would go
further and say this was chaotic at | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
the beginning, look at the way this
was done, it looks like the | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
president wanted to fire him last
Friday without even telling him at | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
all. No notification. No phone call.
He just wanted Tillerson to read it | 0:12:11 | 0:12:18 | |
on Twitter. There is almost a form
of cruelty in that. You're right, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
and look all the way back when of
course President Trump was | 0:12:22 | 0:12:33 | |
considering mitt Romney to be head
of state, I think what President | 0:12:33 | 0:12:39 | |
Trump did was hue mailiating and we
saw how Tillerson looked humiliated. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:46 | |
He did this on a world stage and I
think it was a shabby thing for him | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
to have done. Thank you. This would
not have happened in the Bush or the | 0:12:50 | 0:13:01 | |
Obama or the Clinton White House.
Let's talk about Gina Haspel who, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:09 | |
will take over at the CIA, the first
female. Not an easy confirmation I | 0:13:09 | 0:13:16 | |
guess. No, they like her in the
agent circumstances he -- agency. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:26 | |
There will be a sigh of relief that
they have one of their own running | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
the administration when the Trump
administration has a difficult | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
relationship with the intelligence
community. But she has baggage to go | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
into the confirmation hearings,
particularly around terrorism and | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
torture. She over saw one of
America's black sites during the | 0:13:43 | 0:13:49 | |
Bush administration in Thailand,
where terrorist suspects were water | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
board. She has been involved in will
there was a cover up around video | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
tape and what happened to the tape
of the sessions of water boarding. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
That already is being raised by some
Senators and it will come up an as | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
objection. But she also might do a
great job, but she has to know she | 0:14:07 | 0:14:13 | |
could be fired at the drop of a
tweet. One issue. As we have just | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
learned... One of the thorny issues
she will face is Russia and we know | 0:14:17 | 0:14:24 | |
what the President's attitudes are
to Russia. What about Theresa May, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
she has a range of options she can
use to retaliate against Moscow for | 0:14:27 | 0:14:34 | |
the poisoning of Sergei Skripal and
his daughter. One is apparent lay | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
boycott of World Cup and the
expulsion from Britain of | 0:14:38 | 0:14:44 | |
broadcaster Russia Today. Moscow
said not a single media outlet would | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
be allowed to operate in Russia if
the Prime Minister followed through. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:55 | |
Yes, today there were expressions of
solidarity in the EU and finally | 0:14:55 | 0:15:02 | |
from President Trump. But can
Britain count on its closest allies. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:08 | |
Here is James Landale. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
It began as a brutal attack
on the streets of Salisbury, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
the poisoning of a former Russian
intelligence | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
officer and his daughter,
that the UK blames on Russia. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
But it's become a global
diplomatic row, with Britain | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
looking for allies in its
confrontation with Moscow. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
British ministers
meeting again to discuss | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
the case have given the Kremlin
until midnight to explain how a | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
nerve agent developed in Russia
ended up in Britain. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
If the response is implausible,
they are promising | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
extensive measures against Russia. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
This is a brazen attempt to murder
innocent people on UK soil. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:46 | |
Policemen still in hospital,
overwhelmingly likely or highly | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
likely the Russian state was
involved, and the use of this nerve | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
agent would represent
the first use of nerve | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
agents on the continent
of | 0:15:56 | 0:15:57 | |
Europe since the Second World War. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:06 | |
As part of a huge diplomatic effort
across Europe, British officials | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
told the chemicals
weapon watchdog that | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
Russia was implicated
in the | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
use of chemical weapons. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
Germany, France and
other allies offered | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
support without attributing blame,
but Donald Trump at least appeared | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
to accept Russia might be involved. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
Theresa May is going to be
speaking to me today. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
It sounds to me like they believe
it was Russia and I | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
would certainly take
that finding as fact. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
As soon as we get the facts
straight, if we agree with them, we | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
will condemn Russia
or whoever it may be. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Russia is already
subject to sanctions. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
Ministers insist these damage
Russia's economy but their | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
impact on behaviour is doubtful. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:53 | |
Crucially these are largely EU
sanctions, the UK cannot impose them | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
on its own. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
So what unilateral
options is the Government | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
considering? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Some of Russia's 58
diplomats in London could be | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
expelled but that might promote
a tit for tat expulsion. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
Russians could face
travel bans, but who and | 0:17:11 | 0:17:12 | |
how? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
There could be tougher laws to crack
down on Russian officials | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
guilty of human rights abuses,
and Russian television stations | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
like RT could be targeted. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:30 | |
Here at the Foreign
Office, they are also | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
investing a lot of effort
and diplomacy in trying to bring | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
international pressure to bear
on Russia but the bar is high. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
Russia has a veto
at the UN and some EU | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
countries are reluctant
to contemplate yet more sanctions. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
To date, the Russian Embassy said
accusations of involvement in the | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
Salisbury attack were groundless
as diplomats promised retaliation | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
against any new sanctions. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
Russia is not a country
to be spoken to in the | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
language of ultimatums. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
I think it is high time
the UK learned that. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
But unless Moscow gives Britain
a satisfactory answer by midnight, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
some Russian diplomats here might be
clearing their desks very soon. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:17 | |
Meanwhile London police have
begun an investigation | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
into the 'unexplained' death
of Nikolai Grushkov, a Russian, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:27 | |
who was found dead in Kingston,
London | 0:18:27 | 0:18:28 | |
on Monday evening. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
Mr Gruchkov, a former
Aeroflot executive was tried | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
in absentia in Russia,
and was a business partner | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
of Boris Berezovsky,
the Russian oligarch who was found | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
hanged in his Surrey home in 2013. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:44 | |
Scotland Yard has stressed
there is no evidence to suggest | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
there was any link to the poisoning
of Sergei Skripal. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd,
has also announced today that | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
a string of deaths in Britain
in which there was suspicion | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
of Russian involvement,
will be looked at again by police | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
and MI5. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:57 | |
It follows an invesigation
by the news website BuzzFeed | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
into 14 suspicious deaths. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
Heidi Blake is the Investigations
Editor for BuzzFeed. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
Welcome. A growing list of Russian
opponents who die in mysterious | 0:19:05 | 0:19:12 | |
circumstances and Boris Berezovsky
was one. Why do you think we should | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
look again at that particular death?
Well Boris Berezovsky was one of a | 0:19:15 | 0:19:21 | |
group of nine oligarchs who helped
get money from Russia after a wave | 0:19:21 | 0:19:31 | |
of dissidents and exiles came to the
UK under Vladimir Putin. There are | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
nine of the men who died in
suspicious circumstances. Boris | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
Berezovsky is just one. In all of
the cases and in five others that we | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
investigated... There was no sign of
a struggle with Boris Berezovsky. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
Why do you think it needs to be
looked at. Well he was found hanged | 0:19:49 | 0:19:58 | |
from his own shower rail. The marks
were not consistent with the sorts | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
of marks you get in a hanging A
pathologist said they were | 0:20:03 | 0:20:10 | |
consistent with strangulation of
the. And he had a broken rib. There | 0:20:10 | 0:20:16 | |
were fingerprints found. He was
known to be the target of previous | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
assassination attempts ordered by
the Russian state. We think it is | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
sufficient to investigate his death
and the others of people surrounding | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
him. You have spent a lot of time
investigating the unexplained deaths | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
of Russians in London. What do you
make of today's news, do you think | 0:20:31 | 0:20:45 | |
that Mr Glushakov's death sounds
suspicious. Well he was part of the | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
group of Russian exiles, many of who
have died in mysterious | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
circumstances. He was close to Boris
Berezovsky and another of the 14 | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
people who died suspiciously in
Britain after angering the Kremlin. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
We know he has accused the Kremlin
of being involved in the death of | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
his friends and he was continuing to
investigate their deaths. So I think | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
it is appropriate that counter
terror police become involved in | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
that investigation. They can
hopefully conduct all the | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
appropriate tests and make sure the
investigation is conducted properly | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
and maybe we will get a better
conclusion in this investigation | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
than in the 14 hoers that we have
investigated. Can I ask you about | 0:21:22 | 0:21:28 | |
comments from the Russian Foreign
Ministry in connection with Sergei | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Skripal's poisoning. The two lines,
particularly one they would | 0:21:32 | 0:21:38 | |
retaliate against all British
journalists in Moscow if RT is shut | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
and the threat of don't mess with a
nuclear power. What do you think of | 0:21:43 | 0:21:50 | |
that. That is why the British
Government has been reticent to | 0:21:50 | 0:21:58 | |
respond before. I have been talking
to people in the British Government | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
and they tell me Britain is scared
of Russia and Russia is a nuclear | 0:22:01 | 0:22:08 | |
power with extensive capabilities
and are prepared to respond to any | 0:22:08 | 0:22:14 | |
retaliation by the British
Government and could shut out every | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
British journalist from Russia if
Britain shuts down one Russian | 0:22:19 | 0:22:25 | |
propaganda arm. Britain is scared of
moves Russia could make. I think | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
here by unleashing a chemical
weapons attack that may have | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
affected hundreds of members of
public, Russia has crossed a | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
threshold and it is not possible or
the the British Government to ignore | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
this. Thank you. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:50 | |
We need three hours for this
programme today. There is so much. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
Now many of us have journals
where we write down our feelings | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
but for seven-year-old Noah Orion -
the pages became a place to express | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
himself when his mother
was sick with cancer. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
When she died last fall his drawings
became a way to express his grief. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
Now it's being made into a book -
with the proceeds being | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
used to help others. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
The BBC's been speaking
to Noah about the project. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
It's a book where you express your
feelings about each day you have. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:21 | |
How is that? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
Too high? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
I was like, how could
I make a book where I | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
could just just do the title,
like one of those journals. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
Noah created this
journal, it was totally | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
an idea he came up with on his own. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
There was a good day's version
and a bad day's version. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
A bad day would be like
when something goes wrong. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
And good days are basically
holidays, winning video games. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:53 | |
But if you can't
find a good day or a | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
bad day in their day,
you don't really have | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
to write about that day. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
About five years ago Sandy
was diagnosed with breast cancer. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
She was diagnosed at stage 4. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Who is Sandy? | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
My mom. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
She was a real trooper
when we found out. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
I mean she went camping
with us one time. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
We have always had a conversation
in our family about how | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
it is important to talk
about your feelings, or write | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
it down. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:28 | |
When Sandy started to get sicker,
it was something we talked | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
about a lot. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
Dad saw me with this
and he was, "That's awesome, dude." | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
I really wanted to show Noah
that his bright idea could | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
help people. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
Noah said something to me today that
I thought was great, he | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
said, "I want people
to know they they can make | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
a difference and they can help,
even if they're only | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
seven years old." | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
I thought that was
really a sweet thing. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
I feel awesome that I could
contribute, help them | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
to not have the same thing
that we went through. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
I know his mum would be
so proud of what he has | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
accomplished. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:17 | |
I know she would be really proud
of what he is doing. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
So sad what Noah has been flu and
good for him for trying to help | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
other people. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
This is Beyond 100
Days from the BBC. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Coming up for viewers on the BBC
News Channel and BBC World News - | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
will Russia respond to Theresa May's
midnight diplomatic deadline, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
as the UK demands an explanation
over the poisoning of a former spy | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
in southern England? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
And sun, surf and security -
Donald Trump makes his first trip | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
to California as President,
where he's looking at | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
prototypes for a border wall. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:52 | |
That's still to come. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
There are some changes on the way
for tonight into tomorrow. Today was | 0:26:09 | 0:26:15 | |
a lovely spring day. Sunshine across
the country. There was some cloud as | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
you can see from our weather watcher
pictures. The showers that we had | 0:26:18 | 0:26:26 | |
faded away. We have some clear
skies, light winds and temperatures | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
will fall away tonight. The wind's
picking up, blowing in more cloud | 0:26:31 | 0:26:37 | |
with rain later in Cornwall and
Northern Ireland. Ahead of it we | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
will find temperatures falling close
to freezing. In Scotland and | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
northern England all the way down to
the northern home counties. For | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
Wednesday this area of low pressure
will rotate to the west of the UK. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:55 | |
And push ahead these bands of cloud
and rain. The western side that sees | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
the rain on Wednesday. Ahead of it
we are drawing air from Spain. A | 0:26:58 | 0:27:06 | |
mild wind picking up during the day.
It will be a breezy day. For central | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
and eastern parts dry with sunshine.
The stronger winds will be where we | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
have the thicker cloud and rain to
the west. Gales likely to the South | 0:27:15 | 0:27:21 | |
West of England and around the coast
and hill and rain through much of | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
the afternoon across the South West,
spilling up to Wales, heading north | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
in the afternoon. The winds picking
up through the Irish Sea and some | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
rain for much of the day for
Northern Ireland, clipping the South | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
West of Scotland and arriving back
into the Western Isles. But plenty | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
of sunshine around the Moray Firth
and the Society east of England -- | 0:27:42 | 0:27:48 | |
south-east of England and
temperatures up to 14. For Thursday | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
the rain will move, not away from
Northern Ireland, but moving north | 0:27:51 | 0:27:57 | |
and behind it sunshine but some
heavy showers. Here in the South | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
West temperatures around 12 degrees.
But to the north of the rain belt it | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
is colder in Scotland and the
north-east of England and it will | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
get colder. That rain band moves
north and then stops, the showers | 0:28:10 | 0:28:16 | |
continue towards the south and any
showers in Scotland turning wintry. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:23 | |
We pick up an easterly wind. It will
feel cold with some snow in the | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
south. And in the east. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
This is Beyond One
Hundred Days, with me | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
Katty Kay in Washington -
Christian Fraser's in London. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
Our top stories.
| 0:30:13 | 0:30:14 | |
Donald Trump fires his
Secretary of State, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
Rex Tillerson, replacing him
with CIA chief, Mike Pompeo. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
One Democratic Senator tells us,
this is no way to run a White House. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:25 | |
The president may have been acting
more out of the instincts he adopted | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
in ten years of presiding over
a reality TV show where the ultimate | 0:30:28 | 0:30:37 | |
aim was to have him point at someone
and yell, you're fired. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
Moscow says it will
ignore an ultimatum | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
from Britain to explain how a former
Russian double agent | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
was poisoned in the UK
with a Soviet-era nerve agent. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
We'll have more on both of those
stories in a moment - | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
also coming up in
the next half hour. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
Trump travels to California
for his first visit | 0:30:52 | 0:30:53 | |
as president, to look at prototypes
of the wall he wants to build | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
on the Mexican border. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
Amazing pictures from
Patagonia - the Argentine | 0:30:59 | 0:31:00 | |
glacier that collapses,
then reforms - we've | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
more to show you. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
Let us know your thoughts
by using the hashtag | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
'Beyond-One-Hundred-Days'. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:17 | |
Let's return to our top story
In the biggest shake-up | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
of his Cabinet since taking office,
Donald Trump has sacked his | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson,
following a series of public | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
disagreements between the two men. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
Rex Tillerson is the twentieth
member of Mr Trump's | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
cabinet to lose their job,
or resign, since the President took | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
office fourteen months ago. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
The director of the CIA,
Mike Pompeo, has been named | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
as Mr Tillerson's replacement,
while Gina Haspel becomes | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
the first woman to lead
the intelligence agency. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:52 | |
What do we know about what was that
tipping point that fully - that | 0:31:54 | 0:32:03 | |
finally pushed at Rex Tillerson. I
remember when the rumours were | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
swirling late last year we thought
it was imminent and then at the | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
start of the New Year we felt a
corner had been turned and Rex | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
Tillerson had found his feet and he
embarked on all of these trips and | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
policy initiatives. And he told us
that he would be around for the year | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
of the Sophie was digging in perhaps
banking on this fact but Donald | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
Trump does not like to fire people
directly. But for the tipping point, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
Rex Tillerson got a call on Friday
from the Chief of staff John Kelly | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
to let him something was up. And
this happened shortly after Donald | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
Trump decided to meet the North
Korean leader. So White House | 0:32:42 | 0:32:48 | |
officials saying that he wanted to
make a break, he wanted to get a new | 0:32:48 | 0:32:53 | |
team in place in time to run those
negotiations anti-trust and likes | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
Mike Pompeo, he is more aligned in
terms of policy and he decided then | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
to move at this point. Coming back
on the plane Rex Tillerson was also | 0:33:02 | 0:33:08 | |
outspoken about Russia, he has
always been more radical of Russia | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
than Donald Trump to put it mildly.
But he was very outspoken on the | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
plane coming back and that may have
tipped the scales in terms of the | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
timing. I think Donald Trump had
already made up his mind. But no | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
doubt it was a shock wave that it
was done and the timing as well. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
Just a few hours after Rex Tillerson
landed after coming back from | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
Africa. Mike Pompeo has been more
tactful when it comes to Russia even | 0:33:32 | 0:33:38 | |
though he seems to be siding with
Rex Tillerson. Saying that they are | 0:33:38 | 0:33:45 | |
interfering not just in the last
election but in the run-up to the | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
midterms. But he is more hawkish
when it comes to Iran and North | 0:33:48 | 0:33:54 | |
Korea. As head of the CIA he has
said we have evidence that Russia is | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
meddling and will medal again
probably in the midterms. So he has | 0:33:59 | 0:34:04 | |
taken a much stronger stance than
Donald Trump. But less strong than | 0:34:04 | 0:34:10 | |
Rex Tillerson. So he is in between.
But in terms of the other policy | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
issues, Iran, he said that we have
differences on Iran with Rex | 0:34:14 | 0:34:20 | |
Tillerson. The reality of that was
Cabinet secretaries had told them | 0:34:20 | 0:34:26 | |
not to pull out of the Iran deal.
But Mike Pompeo is going to be | 0:34:26 | 0:34:32 | |
overseeing backfile now. He's known
to be more a hawk on Iran. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:38 | |
Let's speak to William Cohen
who served as Secretary of Defense | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
under President Clinton. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
Can you give us some sense of the
importance of the role of Secretary | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
of State, how much does a change in
that role reflects a change in | 0:34:49 | 0:34:55 | |
American policy. It really depends
on the president. What kind of | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
delegation of authority the
president gives to his Secretary of | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
State. But from the beginning it was
cleared Donald Trump did not give | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
full authority to Rex Tillerson. And
that was indicative from the very | 0:35:06 | 0:35:12 | |
beginning, they had disagreements of
a variety of issues. Their styles | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
are different, Rex Tillerson comes
from the corporate world where there | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
is a process that present tramp
comes from his own world where there | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
is no process but more of a chaotic
environment with decisions being | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
made on impulse without great
consequence given to the result. And | 0:35:28 | 0:35:34 | |
the relationship between the
Secretary of State and secondary | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
defence, we understand Rex Tillerson
had a good relationship with the | 0:35:38 | 0:35:44 | |
Secretary of Defence. How much does
that relationship matter? It is very | 0:35:44 | 0:35:52 | |
important, state and defence
sometimes disagree on major issues | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
and it is important that the
Secretary of Defence and state work | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
together. But in this case I think
Mike Pompeo will work very well with | 0:36:00 | 0:36:17 | |
defence. I do not think there will
be any big difference of opinion. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
There may be some difference in
style in terms of how they go about | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
resolving any differences they might
have. You said it depends on the | 0:36:24 | 0:36:33 | |
president, and their relationship
with the Secretary of State. But | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
that tweet he said to Rex Tillerson,
he's wasting his time trying to | 0:36:36 | 0:36:43 | |
negotiate with little rocket man.
But then he said he would talk to | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
the North Korean President. He does
not really want to listen to the | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
candour of his Secretary of State,
he wants to do it himself? Well Rex | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
Tillerson was promoting negotiation
to try to get to the table with the | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
North Korean. And you have president
moon of South Korea asking for | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
negotiations. Present tramp called
him an appeaser. And then he | 0:37:07 | 0:37:14 | |
undercut Rex Tillerson I think
you're wasting your time with little | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
rocket man. Again it shows the
volatility and lack of real | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
continuity in terms of thinking and
action put up and in this case it | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
was clear that secretary Rex
Tillerson was not going to have a | 0:37:27 | 0:37:32 | |
long lasting literature with the
president. But what is surprising is | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
the manner in which it was done,
without any great class or grace. He | 0:37:36 | 0:37:42 | |
could have said we're just having
too many differences and I would | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
like you to submit your resignation.
But instead he waited until he was | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
out of the country and then fired
him. Now Rex Tillerson apparently | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
wants to stay on but usually you
have an agreement to stay on for a | 0:37:54 | 0:38:00 | |
couple of weeks but Dean fired with
the undercut durability to carry out | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
any functions. Thank you very much.
If ever we have a disagreement and | 0:38:05 | 0:38:11 | |
one of us has to leave the show I
will tell you in person, Christian. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
It will not be done on twitter, that
is not the way to get rid of | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
someone. I think this one issue
about Mike Pompeo, he is very much a | 0:38:20 | 0:38:26 | |
political person and tied this
president. Willie play the role of | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
standing up to Donald Trump and
disagreeing with him when he feels | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
that there are policy issues between
them. I'm a bit more sceptical about | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
that. The president is in California
now, he asked the builders to create | 0:38:36 | 0:38:51 | |
some physically imposing structures
for his proposed border wall. He is | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
looking about how to type, there are
in fact eight of them and it will | 0:38:54 | 0:39:00 | |
cover 360 miles of the border. That
is one of them, all different shapes | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
and sizes. I have been looking at
the pictures from the other side and | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
quite a number of Mexicans on the
other side protesting with banners. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
And just on the other side the
Secret Service keeping a wily eye on | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
the Mexicans who have come to
protest about it. And by the way he | 0:39:17 | 0:39:32 | |
still does not have the money for
that wall. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
Returning now to the
Russian spy story. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
And the Russian government has,
once again, denied being involved. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
Russia's foreign minister says
Britain isn't letting | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
the Kremlin see the evidence
of the nerve agent attack, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
as required under international law. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
From Moscow, here's Sarah Rainsford. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
Today we saw the British
ambassador called into | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
the foreign ministry here. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
He said he came to give
the message from Theresa May | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
that the ultimatum was approaching,
that Britain expects some answers. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
The foreign ministry, though,
said he came to hear the Russian | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
protest against what Russia calls
a sordid attempt to | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
discredit this country. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:05 | |
So strong language coming
from Moscow and the strongest we've | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
heard yet coming from the Minister
himself Sergey Lavrov. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:18 | |
He has essentially rejected
the deadline, he said Britain | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
is violating the chemical weapons
Convention by only giving Russia 24 | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
hours to respond to the allegation
of a chemical attack. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:28 | |
He says there should be
ten days to respond. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
So unless Russia, unless the UK
sticks to the rules than Russia has | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
no intention of doing so either
was pretty much the message | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
from Sergey Lavrov. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:37 | |
When I asked him directly
whether Russia was responsible | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
for this attack he said
that was nonsense and Russia had | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
nothing to do with it. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
And we've heard as well
from his spokeswoman a little later | 0:40:45 | 0:40:53 | |
today with even stronger
language, she said today | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
who does Britain think | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
it is issuing ultimatums
to a nuclear power. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
So worrying language
from here in Moscow and no sign | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
at all I think of Russia either
meeting the deadline or backing down | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
on its stance over this attack. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:08 | |
So it seems another rupture in
relations between the UK and Russia | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
by midnight. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
Joining us now is John Bayliss - | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
who worked for Britain's electronic
intelligence agency for almost four | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
decades - and now lectures
on security threats. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
When we get something like the
Sergei Skripal case will focus on | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
how many spies there are in the UK.
How does it compare to the height of | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
the Cold War do you think? I would
say there are more spies now than at | 0:41:33 | 0:41:40 | |
the height of the Cold War. I think
we are looking at travelling | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
somewhere between 40 and 50.
Difficult to put an exact figure on. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
The thing about spying is that
funnily enough we tell the Russians | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
how many spies we have a Moscow, we
do not call them spies but | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
intelligence officers and they
basically tell us how many | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
intelligence officers they have in
London and the tricky bit is working | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
out who is an intelligence officer
that they are not admitting to. I | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
read about one Russian businessman
who knows that he's been followed | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
because he looks outside the shop
that he runs in London and some | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
locals were eating sunflower seeds
which Russian people from the | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
countryside he does well and quite
brazen in the fact that they were | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
watching him. What happens for the
spies here, do we follow them around | 0:42:23 | 0:42:29 | |
or how does that work. Well I think
that in the day of the Cold War they | 0:42:29 | 0:42:37 | |
were restricted on their movements.
I think that has lapsed almost | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
completely now and they have fairly
free movement. Some of the people we | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
know about will probably be
followed. But there are too many of | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
them, we do not have enough people
any more to do that kind of thing. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
We concentrate on terrorism and that
is where the bulk of the effort will | 0:42:54 | 0:43:00 | |
go almost certainly. What are the
retaliatory options with UK, you | 0:43:00 | 0:43:05 | |
work that GCHQ and you understand
the cyber options. The risk could be | 0:43:05 | 0:43:12 | |
a trade war with perhaps unintended
consequences and presumably the | 0:43:12 | 0:43:20 | |
Russians would hit back in any kind
of cyber attack. I think they are | 0:43:20 | 0:43:26 | |
already hitting, not hitting back
because they've been doing it more | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
than we have I would say. They would
be an option I'm quite sure to do | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
that but as you say where does it
end. You think we need to get | 0:43:34 | 0:43:40 | |
tougher? We probably do but what are
the options, I mean there are | 0:43:40 | 0:43:48 | |
sanctions, expelling diplomats, not
sending people to the football, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:55 | |
those are the kind of options you
have. There are limited options that | 0:43:55 | 0:44:01 | |
we have that we can bring into play.
Very good to talk to you, thank you. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:08 | |
Some surprising things, more spies
than at the height of the Cold War | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
and the options not great. England
are not going to the World Cup. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:20 | |
Maybe they would have been coming up
early anyway! | 0:44:20 | 0:44:27 | |
President Trump is
making his first visit | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
to California today -
there's not much love lost | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
between the White House
and the very Democratic state. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
Politicians there are leading
the fight against the President's | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
policies, on everything from climate
change to immigration. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
Last week, the administration filed | 0:44:37 | 0:44:42 | |
a lawsuit saying California
is saying its protections to illega | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
immigrants are unconstitutional. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:46 | |
Today the President tweeted:
Thousands of dangerous & violent | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
criminal aliens are released
as a result of sanctuary | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
policies, set free to prey
on innocent Americans. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
THIS MUST STOP! | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
This trip Mr Trump
will examine eight | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
prototypes for a border wall. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
A short time ago, I spoke
to California Attorney General | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
Xavier Becerra from Los Angeles. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:10 | |
Your state has the biggest economy
in the US. Is it strange that it has | 0:45:10 | 0:45:15 | |
taken the president this long to
visit California gas mark if you go | 0:45:15 | 0:45:21 | |
by past experience it definitely is
because most presidents from | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
Rosenfeld forward have always made
an effort to visit California and | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
not just early but often. I'm not
sure why Donald Trump has waited so | 0:45:29 | 0:45:34 | |
long since you could learn so much
about what makes a nation | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
successful. Blah but only the
economic engine for the country but | 0:45:36 | 0:45:41 | |
the sixth largest economy in the
world close to passing Great Britain | 0:45:41 | 0:45:46 | |
is the fifth economic power in the
world. Well maybe it is because you | 0:45:46 | 0:45:50 | |
are afraid democratic state and seen
by the supporters of Donald Trump is | 0:45:50 | 0:45:56 | |
the hotbed of the political
resistance in this country. He does | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
not like the politics of California,
as simple as that restaurant may be | 0:45:59 | 0:46:06 | |
is that he talks and we act, he
talks success and we show success. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
All I know is that California
creates more jobs than any other | 0:46:10 | 0:46:15 | |
state, we are number one in
manufacturing, agriculture, | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
high-technology, hospitality,
entertainment. We graduate more | 0:46:19 | 0:46:24 | |
people from college than any other
state in the nation, a pretty good | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
record of success that I would hope
that every state would want to | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
emulate. Are you concerned that the
president has the capacity to hit | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
back against Europe economic success
whether it is by building a wall | 0:46:35 | 0:46:40 | |
with Mexico, and he is looking older
types today over there by taking | 0:46:40 | 0:46:45 | |
action against Californian cities,
so-called sanctuary cities that | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
protect undocumented people living
in the country. I believe that the | 0:46:49 | 0:46:55 | |
law will be on our side and not just
history, but the law. And I count on | 0:46:55 | 0:47:02 | |
the law and the institutions we have
in this country are strong. I | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
believe they can withstand the winds
from Washington, DC and Donald Trump | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
can say what he likes, it is whether
the federal government has the right | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
to do these things. So we will see
Donald Trump" whether on the border | 0:47:12 | 0:47:18 | |
wall for his attempts to coerce the
state of California to do his | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
bidding on immigration. We're not in
the business of deportation but of | 0:47:22 | 0:47:31 | |
public safety. And we are prepared
to abide by the law and that the | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
institutions of government prove how
and when Donald Trump can act. You | 0:47:35 | 0:47:41 | |
say you're prepared to fight back
against some of the things that the | 0:47:41 | 0:47:46 | |
president is proposing, clamping
down on people who are in the | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
country illegally and particularly
on the prospect of building a wall. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
But he is the President, what can
you do about that? Well we cannot | 0:47:54 | 0:48:01 | |
stop him from doing those things
that fall within the province of the | 0:48:01 | 0:48:06 | |
federal government. We recognise
that. Immigration enforcement is a | 0:48:06 | 0:48:13 | |
federal responsibility but even with
immigration enforcement you must do | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
it according to the Constitution and
when Donald Trump tries to violate | 0:48:16 | 0:48:21 | |
peoples constitutional rights week
can step in and we have. And far | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
with proven that on many occasions
Donald Trump has violated the very | 0:48:23 | 0:48:29 | |
laws that he is supposed to enforce.
Dreamers, individuals, waiting for | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
status, one Donald Trump decided to
deport them, they're still here and | 0:48:34 | 0:48:39 | |
in fact the programme remains in
effect because of the court | 0:48:39 | 0:48:44 | |
challenge which instituted and we
got a nationwide injunction to stop | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
him from terminating the programme.
We'll see where we go on the border | 0:48:48 | 0:48:54 | |
wall for the but we will do what we
can to defend the rights of the | 0:48:54 | 0:48:59 | |
people of California and see where
that goes. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:06 | |
This is Beyond One Hundred Days. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:07 | |
Still to come. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:12 | |
What can I do for you. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
Disney's new film
A Wrinkle in Time - | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
why it's a bittersweet moment
for the black woman who directed it. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:26 | |
Here, the Chancellor Philip Hammond
delivered an upbeat | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
assessment of the UK economy,
claiming there's "light at the end | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
of the tunnel" and hinting
at possible public spending | 0:49:32 | 0:49:33 | |
increases in the Autumn. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
Mr Hammond delivered his Spring
statement saying growth | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
and employment were up -
but Labour accused the Chancellor | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
of ignoring a public
sector funding crisis. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
Here's Laura Kuennsberg. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
Is there anybody out there? | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
Number Eleven didn't want us to pay
that much attention. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
No fuss, no frills. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
REPORTER: Do you have good
news today, Chancellor? | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
Only the Chancellor
slipping off to work. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:05 | |
But what was this, a cheery
Philip Hammond rushing to his place? | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
If there are any Eeyores
in the chamber, they're over there. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
I, meanwhile, am at my most
positively Tigger-like today. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:20 | |
Not much has changed
from the world outside. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
True, the economy will grow
a little bit faster. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
The debt will start to fall, just. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:30 | |
The day-to-day deficit,
remember that, it's gone. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
But compared to other countries,
the economy is sluggish and slow. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
Spending will stay stay tight. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
I do not agree with those who argue
that every available penny must be | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
used to reduce the deficit. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:49 | |
And nor do I agree with the fantasts
opposite who argue that every | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
available penny should
be spent immediately. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
But Labour accused him of not
being in the real world. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
Hasn't he listened to the doctors,
the nurses, the teachers, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
the police officers,
the carers and even his own | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
councillors, they're telling him
they can't wait for the next budget. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
They're telling him to act now. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:16 | |
Hard choices that will
linger long after today. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
Along with the Brexit
bill, revealed to be | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
hanging around until 2064. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:28 | |
Spring has not yet really sprung. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
Laura Kuenssberg, BBC
News, Westminster. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
You're watching
Beyond One Hundred Days. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
"Bittersweet" - that's how
the director of the new Disney film, | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
A Wrinkle in Time has described
becoming one of the first | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
African American directors to hold
a top spot at the U.S Box Office. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:46 | |
Ava Duvernay says "it's sad"
its only happened in 2018 | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
after more than a century
of the industry existing. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
Our reporter Chi Chi Izundu sat down
with her to discuss race, | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
inclusion and Times Up. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
Your father has accomplished
something extraordinary. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:03 | |
Based on the 1962 fantasy
novel, a Wrinkle in | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
Time tells the story of a young
teenage girl whose | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
scientist father goes missing
and it's down to her to find | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
him and save the universe. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
The only one who can stop it. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
Is you. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
Wrinkle holds the No 2 spot
at the US box office. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
Start over. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
And burn it all. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
In at No 1 is the Marvel
epic Black Panther - | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
which has also just | 0:52:30 | 0:52:31 | |
surpassed the billion
dollar mark worldwide. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
To the rest of the world. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
Plus, it is the first
time in history that | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
two black directors
with | 0:52:39 | 0:52:40 | |
budgets over $100 million have ever
taken the top two spots at the | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
box office. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
An achievement the Wrinkle director,
Ava DuVernay, has described | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
as bitter sweet. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:53 | |
They're amazing women
throughout history of cinema | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
who were black women, women
of colour, who should have had those | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
opportunities, but Hollywood
and the industry didn't give them | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
opportunities, so because Hollywood
has decided to give me the | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
opportunity, it doesn't have
to do anything with me. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
It has to do with the time. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
So it is bitter sweet when we hear
about these firsts happening | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
in 2018. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:13 | |
Do you think Hollywood's changed
towards people of colour | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
being forefront and centre of film? | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
Changing, not changed. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
That is not the case. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:25 | |
But changing, I hope so. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
That hope is turning into a reality. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
Since the start of her career,
Ava DuVernay has insisted on a | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
diverse cast and crew. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:34 | |
Something other production
houses and actors | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
are now actively including
in their contracts. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:47 | |
A glacier arch in
Argentina has collapsed - | 0:53:47 | 0:53:53 | |
but this time it's not due
to climate change. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
It's part of a cycle and means
tourists can see the spectacle | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
of huge chunks of ice falling off
the glacier every few years. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:07 | |
Let's take a look. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:17 | |
The Perito Moreno glacier. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:28 | |
It is like a video being rewound. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:17 | |
So I was having a look
through Twitter and found this - | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
taken at a chocolate factory. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:29 | |
Trump Junior apparent being
interviewed by some very serious | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
chocolate bunny reporters. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:38 | |
Trump Jr
was at Sarris Candies in Canonsburg, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
Pennsylvania, for a campaign
stop with Rick Saccone, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:41 | |
the Republican congressional
candidate for Tuesday's special | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
election in Pennsylvania's 18th
District. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:53 | |
And he has responded in part. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:01 | |
President Trump's eldest son
appreciated the joke, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
retweeting Rush's photo
and adding his own quip. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
"The chocolate rabbit gave
a hard hitting interview | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
and was delicious
afterwards," Trump Jr | 0:56:07 | 0:56:08 | |
tweeted. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:18 | |
One of those really boring news
days! We will see you back here | 0:56:20 | 0:56:29 | |
tomorrow. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 |