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Beyond 100 Days on PBS.
Donald Trump slaps sanctions
on Russia and offers a rare
criticism of Moscow,
after a conversation
with Theresa May.
On both the poisoning
of Sergei Skripal and Russian
meddling in the US election,
the White House is pushed to take
a tougher line on Putin.
As tests continues at Skripal's
house in Salisbury -
Britain, France, Germany and the US
issue a rare joint
the Kremlin for the attack.
Meanwhile Russia denies it made
the nerve agent used in that attack
and promises to retaliate
against both Britain and America.
In Miami a pedestrian bridge has
collapsed. We are getting reports of
multiple fatalities. We'll bring you
Also on the programme.
New reports in Washington that
Special Counsel Bob Mueller has
subpoenaed Donald Trump's business
The President has said that
would be a red line.
Long dark winters and summers
bathed in continual light
might drive some mad,
but the people of Finland are in
fact the happiest in the world.
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Hello and welcome -
I'm Katty Kay in Washington
and Christian Fraser is in London.
The West today came together
in an unusual, coordinated criticism
of Russia's aggressive behaviour.
There was a joint statement
from Britain's allies
and new sanctions from Washington.
After a string of what are
being called malicious
actions from Moscow,
it sounds like Western
allies have had enough.
Even Donald Trump, normally loathe
to criticise President Putin,
has been pushed to drop
the ambiguity, blaming Moscow
for the events in Salisbury.
In response to Russia's
interference in the US election,
his own Treasury Department added
against Russians today.
And yet there is still the very real
question of how much tougher
the West is really prepared to be
against the Kremlin.
Here's James Landale.
This was Theresa May's
first visit to Salisbury
since the nerve agent attack.
A chance to be briefed by the police
and public health experts,
but a chance to meet and reassure
members of the public,
whose lives have been so disrupted.
The spirit of those that live
here has been fantastic.
She visited the scene of the attack
on the former Russian intelligence
officer and his daughter
11 days ago.
The restaurant where they ate
and a park bench, under a tent,
where they were found.
The Prime Minister thanked some
of the police officers who first
responded to the call.
Thank you, what you did
is what the police do
day in and day out.
You go to a routine call,
you don't know what you find.
Then at the local hospital
she met and thanked
Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey,
who is still recovering
from exposure to the nerve agent.
Russia, she said, was guilty
of a brazen and despicable attack.
She expelled 23 of its diplomats,
but is ready to do more.
There are other things
we're looking at.
If we face further provocation from
Russia there are other measures we
What is important in
the international arena and we have
taken this into Nato,
the United Nations and we will be
taking it into the European Union,
allies are standing alongside us.
That came in a joint statement
from the leaders of Britain,
France, Germany and the US,
blaming Russia for what they called
an assault on UK sovereignty.
I spoke with the Prime Minister
and we are in deep discussions,
very sad situation and it looks
like the Russians are behind it.
Something that should never,
ever happen and we are taking it
very seriously, as I think
are many others.
The joint statement is significant
because it shows the Foreign Office
and Downing Street are convincing
Britain's allies that the Salisbury
attack is different,
it represents an escalation
of Russia's hostile behaviour.
And as such, those allies are ready
to crank up the pressure on Moscow.
That diplomacy continued today
in Brussels, where British security
officials briefed Nato allies.
The head of the alliance said Russia
had clearly breached
It is important to express
strong, political support
to the United Kingdom,
sending a clear message that
the United Kingdom is not alone.
We stand together with them.
In Moscow, President Putin
discussed the Salisbury
case with his ministers,
who denied Russia and the Soviet
Union had ever run a Novichok nerve
agent programme and promised
to respond soon to the expulsion
of its diplomats.
The Porton Down military
which identified the nerve agent,
is to get an extra £48
million in funding.
Ministers confirmed it would provide
a sample to the chemical watchdog.
Ministers, whose diplomacy is not
extending to Russia.
If you are a nation and another
nation has launched a nerve agent
attack on your people,
you have every right to tell Russia
to shut up and go away.
Meanwhile, this afternoon
near Salisbury, the investigation
continued with the Army recovering
a car from the village near the home
of Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey.
We'll get more on this story in a
We are getting breaking news
from Miami, where a pedestrian
bridge at Florida International
University has collapsed. There are
reports that several people have
been killed in the accident.
are live pictures from Miami. At
least three vehicles, we understand,
are underneath the bridge and a
number of injured people have been
treated. The bridge, which was only
opened on Saturday, connected the
university to a student housing
area. The Miami Herald is reporting
that those firemen you can see their
around the bridge have been working
through a hole, so they are getting
some access to the vehicles
underneath, and we've seen pictures
in the last few minutes of
paramedics also treating people on
the road close to the bridge.
are telling people to stay away from
the area now, of course. Does remind
our viewers it's about 3pm on the
east coast in Miami. There would
have been a lot of people travelling
on the highway and that bridge has
just been opened for a few days.
We'll have more on this story as we
get it. Let's return to the story,
straight to Moscow, because our
colleague Lucy Hawking is is there.
We're still awaiting a response from
the Russian authorities. It will
come, it will be no surprise. What
are we expecting?
It's snowing on us
here in Moscow and we really should,
I suppose, use a metaphor and an
analogy because relations between
Britain and Russia are really in the
deep freeze, the worst they've been
for the past 30 years and Christian
Kimura right, it we're expecting
that response from the Kremlin some
time soon -- Christian, you are
right. We've had some indications as
to what it could be. Sergei Lavrov
suggesting some British diplomatic
staff will be expelled from Russia,
possibly. They said that when this
response comes it will be different
from how they we heard from the
British, they will behave like
gentlemen and will let the British
here through official channels
before the public here. We can show
some pictures of Vladimir Putin,
he's been taking this into
consideration today, meeting with
his Security Council and the line we
had from this meeting is that great
concern was expressed about the
destructive and provocative stance
taken by Britain. The other thing
that has constantly been stressed
here is they are still wanting and
waiting for evidence to be produced
by the British, to back up these
We've been hearing on
the programme over the last couple
of days that the actions Theresa May
has so far announced won't
necessarily worry the Kremlin.
What's your sense of whether people
in the Russian government are
feeling the heat over this one?
a great question and I think that
one of the interesting things,
listening to the state television
today, is that there are some
analysts here who thought that
Theresa May would have gone further,
that these sanctions aren't as
strong as they could have been, and
maybe she's got others up her
sleeve, particularly into if we get
into a tit-for-tat situation and
she's still holding on for some
measures. If you speak to people on
the streets, there is a massive
sense of indignation here. They
believe Russia has been falsely
accused of something and people have
all sorts of interesting allegations
to toss Britain's way. For instance,
they say that this is Britain
wanting to interfere in Russia's
build-up to the World Cup, wanting
to interfere in the elections which
are taking place in a few days'
time, wanting to belittle Russia and
make Britain look great game, at a
time when they feel Britain looks on
its knees because of Brexit. Just a
few hours ago, state television said
this was about Britain's centuries
old imperial rivalry with brusher
>> weather-macro: Russia. They gave
ten examples, in 1917 King George V
refused to receive the far's family
in London, that's the kind of
rhetoric we are seeing on state
television this evening -- King
George V refused to receive the
tsar's family in London.
at the joint statement from Nato
allies. It says...
How are Putin's
is the former Vice Chair of
the International Affairs Committee
in the Russian State Duma
and is currently campaigning
across the country for President
He's up for re-election. Thanks very
much for joining the programme. Is
it plausible for the Russian
government at this stage after the
Brits have investigated what has
happened and this nerve agent to say
really we had nothing to do with
Well, I believe, I don't know
whether my participation has any
sense, because I remember the
episodes in the British House of
Commons when Jeremy Corbyn was
silenced when he was asking
legitimate questions, but of course
I will try, since I come here to the
studio. As far as I understand, as I
know, there's still nobody has seen
real proof of that was Russia behind
and it would take someone insane, I
mean in Russia's authorities circle,
to organise such an event just
before the election. The legitimate
question, the first question we
always ask ourselves when we
investigate, when we face similar
cases, who is profiting? Is Russia
profiting from this? I think it
would be insane to... As we proved,
our Foreign Minister has said they
were asking just give us the
What the British Prime
Minister is saying is there is no
plausible alternative explanation
and you have now Germany, France,
the United Kingdom and the United
States all saying that the Kremlin
is responsible for this and has
behaved in a way that is outrageous.
Well, that's not cricket, because
the allies are just supporting, they
don't know anything about the case.
You know, my only relative, the
brother of my father, perished in
Stalin's concentration camp and what
I saw in the British House of
Commons reminds me of how the trial
in the Soviet Union of Stalin's time
went, when the prosecutor general
was accusing crime is absolutely
unbelievable scale and all the rest
were competing in loyalty, you know,
pronouncing ardent speeches. There's
only one person to ask for the
This is quite extraordinary,
that you are about to have election
on Sunday where there is no
opposition and the opposition isn't
allowed to stand and you are picking
holes in British democracy where
people are having a legitimate
We have a position, we have
eight candidates and for instance
the latest several rounds of debates
on TV, people even slapped each
other and were accusing Putin and
the current authorities of all sorts
of... Etc, etc. You call opposition
only someone in the street, you
know, that means that for instance
your Labour Party is not opposition,
etc, so opposition in some marginals
only. We have opposition, we have
eight candidates, and I'm sure they
will gain some votes. For instance,
the Communist Party, candidates, who
is not a member of the party, will
get 10%, I'm sure. Another will get
not less than 6% and all the rest,
two or three.
I'm sorry, we have to
leave it there. But thank you very
much for coming into the studio. We
are out of time.
As we mentioned, the US has slapped
sanctions on 19 Russian
individuals and five groups,
including Moscow's intelligence
services, for meddling in the US
For more we can cross
now to the BBC's North
America Editor, Jon Sopel.
It's extraordinary, listening to the
indignant is from Moscow. Quite
strong feelings there. There were
people who were concerned that maybe
President Trump wouldn't put his
name to this condemnation. What
we've seen today is him standing.
Behind the Prime Minister.
looks as though Theresa May has
managed to pull something off that
all the US intelligence services
have singular Lee failed to do. And
that's to bring the President onside
into believing that the Russians
were responsible for something that
was not good and I think it was very
striking, when I saw the statement
classmate issued by Sarah Sanders,
the press secretary to the
president, condemning the Russian
activity, accepting that Russia was
likely responsible, accepting that
it was the right thing to do to
expel those diplomats and perhaps
taking further action, then this
morning Donald Trump doing something
rather Trump, which was to sign a
joint letter with the leaders of the
UK, France and Germany, in
condemnation of what Russia was
doing and saying was offending the
norms of international behaviour and
destabilising, and he's also
repeated that in terms in his
meeting with the Taoiseach. These
are things we haven't seen from the
Stay with us,
because I want to get your reaction
to another story that's breaking
here about Russia will stop
The New York Times is reporting
that the special counsel Bob Mueller
has subpoenaed Mr Trump's financial
records to do with any Russian
It's the first time
the investigation has subpoenaed
Trump's business records.
Here's the White House press
secretary a few moments ago.
as we've maintained all along and as
the president has said numerous
times, there was no collusion
between the campaign and Russia for
specific questions regarding the
Trump Organisation, I'd refuse you
How significant is this
news breaking in the New York Times?
It is significant for tit reasons.
It shows the Bob Mueller
investigation is going on, it's not
coming to a close, it's not pack up
and go home and a couple of weeks'
time. This is going on. The second
reason it is significant is that
Donald Trump gave an interview to
the New York Times last summer in
which he said, look, if you start
coming after my family's finances,
that would be crossing a red line.
All of which leaves open the
question has the Bob Mueller
investigation with the supreme
crossed one of those red line that
Donald Trump set, so potentially
dangerous moment for the
investigation. We had Sarah Sanders
say I refer you to the Trump
organisation. Let me tell you what
they have said in the last few
moments. Since July 2017 we've
advised the public that the Trump
organisation is fully cooperative
with all investigations, including
the Special Counsel, and is
responding to their requests. This
is old news and our assistance in
cooperation with the various
investigations remain the same
today. I suppose my only question I
would throw in, if they'd been
cooperating so fully with the Bob
Mueller organisation, why would
there have been a need for a
Yeah, I've been asking
that question as well. What do Mr
Trump supporters make of this news?
Kayleigh McEnany is
the spokesperson for
the Republican National Committee.
I want to get the reaction to the
news in the New York Times that Bob
Mueller has subpoenaed the Trump
Organisation for the business
records. How significant is it?
very significant. The Trump
organisation has been cooperating
and will co-operate further and Bob
Mueller has subpoenaed these
documents. They've already been
given 20,000 documents from the
Trump organisation, from the White
House, from the campaign. They've
got 37 witnesses. The Trump
Administration, campaign and
organisation of been fully
cooperating. There are hundreds of
thousands of pages of documents that
they found no collusion. There will
be no collusion that is found and we
If Bob Mueller is
investigating President Trump's
business dealings and looking at
those and he finds something there,
the president has said this would be
crossing a red line. What does that
actually mean in terms of the
investigation? Could he fire Bob
Mueller over this?
I think President
Trump trusts Mr Muller to stay
within his jurisdiction and that was
what he was indicating, that it
should not be a free rein to look
into anyone with the name Trump.
Everything the Trump organisation
has done has been aboveboard and
that's what Bob Mueller will find,
he'll not find any evidence of
collusion, any bad financial
transactions here, so they will
co-operate as they indicated. There
will be nothing found and all
President Trump wants is for this to
wrap up quickly and fairly.
had an announcement today, we have a
new national economic adviser Larry
Kudlow, who is coming to the
building, Rex Tillerson on his way
out of course, he'll be gone in a
few weeks' time and the rumours are
starting to circulate about who else
might go, HR McMaster, the National
Security adviser. It looks pretty
chaotic from over here.
chaotic at all. Here's what Trump
supporters look at and Americans
generally are the results coming out
of the Administration and their
staff changes, yes, there is a lot
of power century in our mainstream
media, but look at the results, the
economy, the fact North Korea is
willing to temporarily stop their
missile testing and pursues a
meeting with the president. That's
what Trump supporters and Americans
are looking at. The staff changes
are in a footnote to a bigger story.
It does give an impression there
have been more people leaving this
Administration in the first year
that -- that -- than is customary
and it's understandable as reports
of chaos because so many people are
coming and going.
President Trump is
a very high standard and if someone
isn't meeting that standard,
else in the White House meeting
standard at the moment?
I think at
the moment, yes, if someone loses
the confidence and they will know.
President Trump did push back
reports that other people would be
leaving. Mr McMaster stays for now.
We'll see if it changes by next
week. We'll get you back in if it
does because it changes a lot.
The appointment of Larry Kudlow is
interesting, he's somebody who is a
conservatives television commentator
and here's what he did last night,
Christian, when he was on television
himself. He spoke very unusual this
about how he was called and asked to
be in the Trump Administration. His
answer was the president called me,
told him he'd seen him on television
and said that he was very handsome.
Opec smack there is hope for us all.
You should be sending in your
resume. You look handsome on TV.
you think he'd read it?
I think it
would have to be a picture of you on
Lycos is all real, my
There a valid point to be
made that the president needs to
have around him any president needs
to have around them a team with
which they are comfortable and we've
seen the changes in the State
Department. He was clearly not
comfortable with Rex Tillerson. He
was clearly not comfortable either
with Gary Cohen, so having a new
person running the economic side of
things makes an awful lot of sense
in terms of how you're going to
operate the White House. If you can
get the team with him that he's
comfortable with we may see less of
this churn in the White House.
yet five months ago this was the
most remarkable group of people he'd
ever brought together in the Cabinet
and if you read the papers, and I
know some of it is speculation, the
atmosphere, both within the Cabinet
and within the White House in
general, I mean people don't have
any confidence they're going to be
there next week.
No, he was elected
because he didn't have experience of
running politics and political
organisations. Well, part of that
leads to a certain amount of players
in the stuffing I guess, so that's
perhaps to be expected from what is
voters wanted from him -- a certain
amount of chaos in the stuffing.
I want to share some spectacular
pictures coming to us from Finland.
They are the Northern Lights
of course, and Christian,
I want you take a good look them.
How do they make you feel?
Maybe there's a happy-go-lucky and
feeling when you look at the aurora
I just feel rather green!
Do you? Apparently you can see it
from England tonight, from
Gloucestershire. We'll have to find
out tomorrow if the people of
Gloucestershire are happy tomorrow.
Maybe there's something in it. Shall
we get back to Finland? You were
meant to say you feel very happy.
That's the reason we are showing
these pictures, not because they are
beautiful but because they come from
the happiest country on earth.
Apart from economic factors, life
expectancy and freedom of choice -
the countries were also ranked based
on the happiness of
immigrants in the country.
Scandinavia is well
represented in the top five.
Apart from other European countries,
Canada, New Zealand and Australia
round out the top ten.
As for the US and the UK -
18th and 19th respectively.
I don't understand, I'm always
hearing people in Scandinavian
countries, don't they have high
That was always the
feeling about Finland, because of
the dark nights, the long, dark
nights and the Vari-Lite Summers,
that they had a higher than average
suicide rate. -- very light source.
America's subjective well-being is
being systematically undermined by
three interrelated epidemic
diseases. Notable obesity, substance
abuse, especially opioid addiction,
and depression, and that's why they
think America is slipping down the
table. Also notable that when we
talk about income and society of the
way society interacts, Venezuela has
dropped 20 places to 102 on the
They didn't have our studio,
which of course is the happiest
place on the planet, right?
Burnley, as well, seventh in the
league and doing well! Anyway...
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That's still to come.
Welcome to how the weather is going
to pan out in the British Isles. In
the short term we are looking to the
Atlantic, to see low-pressure
driving frontal systems towards the
British Isles. If you spend the day
in northern and eastern parts it's
been one of those, it's been wet,
cold, pretty miserable affairs, snow
across the high ground of Scotland.
We're watching another feature
running into the south-western
quarter of the British Isles, so as
we start the new day on Friday not a
particularly cold start the day but
it will be for some of you are
really quite wet one. This front
towards the north and east of
Scotland producing quite a bit of
rain and significant snowfall across
the high and then Northern Ireland
down through the North West of
England towards north-eastern Wales,
the Midlands, on towards the
south-east, really quite heavy rain
in its own right there. The snowfall
totals really mounting up across the
higher ground of Scotland here. It
really will be a high ground
feature, I think. Similar prospect
perhaps across the highest ground at
the top end of the Pennines. Don't
discount this more southerly
feature. It looks rather more patchy
but even so I think there will be
the moderate burst of rain. Further
south than that is where you get
sunshine but some pretty sharp
showers as well. As you sleep into
the start of the weekend marked
transformation. We start importing
some really cold air. There will be
a widespread frost on Saturday.
Thanks to the importation of some
really cold air and that big area of
high pressure over Scandinavia
throwing the cold air towards the
British Isles, no signs of mild air
we are all in this similar boat. And
on that noticeable very keen
easterly wind there will be plenty
of snow showers running into the
Wash and through towards the
Midlands, into East Anglia, into the
eastern side of Pennines and eastern
Scotland and you add in the strength
of the wind, my word it will feel
bitterly cold full stop considering
that some of you had around 13-14 on
Friday, it will be a shock to the
system. We start Sunday, there could
well be more widespread snowfall
rather than showers. The northern
boundary of that is difficult to pin
down at the moment. Further north
than that yes, there will still be
wintry showers to be had. Simply
because it is going to be that cold.
Take care, goodbye.
This is Beyond 100 Days, with me,
Katty Kay in Washington.
Christian Fraser's in London.
Our top stories:
As tests continue at the home
of the poisoned former
Russia spy Sergei Skripal,
Britain, France, Germany and the US
issue a rare joint statement
condemning the Kremlin
for the attack.
Russia denies it made the nerve
agent used in that attack
and promises to retaliate
against Britain for expelling
23 Russian diplomats.
More on that shortly.
Also coming up in
the next half hour:
We'll get the latest from Florida
where a new pedestrian
bridge has collapsed,
a number of people.
These are live pictures
from the scene in Miami.
It's an industry worth
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on British fashion?
We'll talk to leading
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Let us know your thoughts
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Let's return to our
breaking news this hour.
A pedestrian bridge at
Florida's International University
in Miami has collapsed,
killing several people.
These are live pictures from Miami -
at least three vehicles were trapped
underneath and a number of injured
people have been treated.
Luis Fajado from BBC
Monitoring is in Miami.
What more can you tell us?
been this major accident, a 900
tonne bridge has collapsed on a
major Miami Avenue in the early
afternoon with heavy traffic,
several cars have been trapped
inside the structure. Florida
highway police have told local media
there have been confirmed fatalities
and they also say a number of people
are being treated in hospital. This
bridge had only been set up this
weekend, it was considered a safety
hazard for university students
moving from the main campus to their
residences across the Avenue and now
they are facing this major accident.
Thank you for bringing us the latest
It's only three days until Russians
go to the polls and today
the country's conflicts
with the West are centre stage.
Moscow has called Britain's
expulsion of 23 Russian diplomats
over the poisoning of a former spy
in southern England irresponsible.
While here in the US,
the government has slapped sanctions
on 19 Russians for interfering
in the US election.
Here to discuss all of these
developments is Thomas Pickering,
former US Ambassador to both Russia
and the UN.
Thank you for coming in. Earlier on
we were speaking to somebody who was
a strong supporter of President
Putin, who expressed outrage at the
suggestion that Russia was involved
in the poisoning of this former spy
and said they wanted proof before
they would contemplate this. Is that
what you would expect?
I would, they
are very defensive about these kind
of things, but using novichok, that
Russian nerve agent, and the
tell-tale that has left, is
something interesting because they
have seemingly left a trace and you
wonder why, and my sense is that
when Putin was asked a year ago, was
there something unforgivable, he
said the trail, and while this is
not clear, there is an interesting
tie-up here between these two people
that have been poisoned, the
Alexander Litvinenko case, both of
which the Russians would have a
reason to feel represented the
trailers, the tradition among
released spies is that they work
beyond farm. I'm not sure what is
going on but Putin could be sending
a message to his folks are aware of
the fact they are targets for
western intelligence and wanting to
tighten the reins.
If we were to go
down the line of Jeremy Corbyn and
not point the finger directly at the
state and hypothesise that maybe
there was a Black Ops operation in
Russia, is that possible? We think
President Putin is our strong man
and no one can touch but how much
power do these groups around him
We saw some things like that
in the middle of the Boris Yeltsin
period where things were more at
tumultuous and out of work. Putin
knows this business, he has been
around for a long time and the last
thing he would want is some kind of
black operation put him in a
difficult position. The
juxtaposition with the election is
something but nobody has ever had
the view that Putin would lose this
election. His popularity is up, the
notion he controls the vote count is
not far from reality so it may be a
late night if it is close but it is
hard to believe it will not be a
landslide for him.
Do you think
there is anything different about
this occasion to the Alexander
Litvinenko murder that would make
you think there will be a tough
That unrolled slowly,
and it took a longer time to come to
a conclusion. Polonium 2010 was a
harder element to find so that may
have done it but this is the second
time, maybe more if there are truths
to some of the other cases that have
popped up but not been fully
explored, so why think the notion
that how much further can it go on,
the British Prime Minister is under
pressure for all kinds of things so
it is a good time to be tough.
you for coming in.
Seven years after the civil war
in Syria broke out today
the bloodshed continues.
Thousands of people are fleeing
the rebel held enclave
of Eastern Ghouta as government
forces step up their
bombardment of the suburb.
One doctor has told the BBC
that the streets and hospitals
are full of injured people.
And there are not enough medical
staff or supplies to help them all.
As our Middle East editor
Jeremy Bowen reports,
after years of resistance,
it looks like the Damascus
suburb is about to fall.
Thousands of people are fleeing
parts of Eastern Ghouta,
going into an uncertain future that
looks better now than
the deadly present.
These are the people
who have spent weeks hiding
in basements from the shelling.
Eastern Ghouta is a big area
and this isn't happening everywhere.
Many tens of thousands
are still besieged.
This was filmed by Omar, a cameraman
who gives his material to the BBC.
The attack happened
outside his building.
A small boy was caught up in it.
He is deaf, so he hadn't heard
warnings to take cover.
Omar, the cameraman,
worried the boy would bleed to death
and told us the eight minutes it
took for the ambulance to arrive
were the worst he had
endured since the battle
for Eastern Ghouta had began.
Omar carried him to the ambulance
where he was squeezed in
next to the bodies of the dead.
Omar has seen a lot of death.
He said the boy was a soul
he wanted to save.
We have been following this doctor,
a paediatrician in an underground
hospital, who spends every day
with the wounded and the dying.
In that place, they are all fighting
fear, where regime soldiers
are advancing into the Eastern
The doctor sent a message.
It is the worst it
has been for many days,
the shelling is brutal,
all kinds of weapons.
This may be my last message.
The injured are everywhere,
the operating theatres
are full of wounded people.
We don't have enough
doctors to help them
and our own homes are being shelved.
A small amount of aid is being
brought into Eastern Ghouta.
All the talk of a humanitarian
ceasefire is being ignored.
This war started seven years ago.
Its horror goes on.
Jeremy Bowen, BBC News.
When the violence in Syria first
broke out seven years ago,
journalist Rania Abouzeid
was on the ground, and for years
continued her reporting
despite being banned
from entering the country.
She's written a new book
about her experiences
called No Turning Back.
She joined us a short time ago.
You've told the story of the Syrian
civil war through portraits
of people you met over the years,
four of them, and I wanted
you to start by telling us a little
about the girl you met six for seven
years ago, what's happened
to her life in the last few years?
I wanted to explain war
through the eyes of a child and show
the impact it had on a regular
family, so you see Ruha absorbing
what's happening around her,
trying to understand it,
and some of the challenges
she faces as a child
living in tumultuous times,
like the small things for a little
girl, not being able to go out
into the courtyard because she fears
snipers, not being able
to play on the streets.
She says we used to play
on the streets then
we feared we would be shot,
this is a nine-year-old girl who has
these concerns so it gives
you an idea how it impacts everyone
and how even a nine-year-old can
absorb everything happening
around her and she's trying
to understand it in her own ways.
One of the political things we have
seen in Syria over the course
of this war has been the growth
of Islamic extremists.
It wasn't necessarily
there at the beginning
of the protest but it has emerged
in the country.
You tell the story of Muhammad,
who became radicalised - how?
I tell the story of three Al-Qaeda
members in this book and that's
to illustrate the Islamisation
of the uprising and all three
characters were radicalised
at different times
and in different ways.
Muhammad was radicalised
because his family suffered
from the older Assad's crackdown
against an earlier Islamist
insurrection in the 1980s and that,
to use Muhammad's words,
planted hatred in his heart,
which he carried with him
until he saw a chance in 2011
to take revenge against the regime
and his vehicle for revenge
was Islamic radicalism.
The characters you follow
through your book and their life
stories that you bring to us
are important because I worry that
after seven years of the pictures
and horror we see on our screens,
the world has become inured
to what is happening in Syria.
Do you worry that the international
community has switched off?
That's why I chose to follow
a number of characters and do so not
just for a minute where you see them
after a battle but to follow them
over years so you can get
the context of their experience
and in following them
you will understand something
about what happened in Syria
on a political level,
a military level, on a social level.
That's why I structured it the way
it is, because it is complex
and difficult to understand
and there is an alphabet soup
of rebel groups that keeps changing
but in my experience of covering
a place like the Middle East,
if you focus on people and tell
the story through people,
you can untangle those ideologies
and the complicated nature
of the story.
It becomes easier to understand.
Briefly, have you been
back to Syria?
I haven't been back since late
2016, just because
it's so difficult to get into.
It's near impossible
to get into Syria now.
Which is why there is
so little coverage of it.
The book is no turning back.
Thank you for coming in.
Keeping the world interesting in
what is going on is a real battle.
It reminded me of a tweet I saw a
month ago from Unicef who sent out a
blank tweet, no words will do
justice to the children killed,
their mothers, fathers and loved
ones, pointing out that all these
pictures are not working because the
international community is not doing
And you met some of the
Syrian refugees who came out, those
people had tough lives, then once
you met on the border with Greece.
It's two years ago this week, and it
is those personal stories that stick
with you, the pictures and videos
pale compared to the people I listen
to on the border. This family had a
farm outside Damascus that they sold
because they wanted a wooden boat
from Turkey to Greece because the
rubber ones were sinking, but before
they got to Greece, they chose --
the border was closed, so they
couldn't go forwards or backwards,
and that night I went home and had a
warm shower. It rained and rained
and it was really miserable.
they had nothing left because they
had sold it all.
Stella McCartney, Vivenne Westwood,
Alexander McQueen -
some of the biggest names in global
fashion are British and in the last
ten year the size of the business
in the UK has taken off
as never before.
At the last count, fashion
was worth more than to
£28 billion to the UK economy.
And fashion is as about
as international a business
as you can get, so what difference
will Brexit make?
On the day that the Creative
hosts a major conference,
and as part of our own Business
of Brexit series, we've been talking
to the leading UK fashion designer
Almost a year to go until Brexit,
does your industry think it has
enough information about what will
Absolutely not. On a human
level, there is concern among
designers and manufacturers in the
UK, to see exactly what that will
mean. I think we have a huge design
skill here in the UK and our skills
are some of the best but we are in
some ways, we have relied on a
certain pool of immigration for the
people that do the work, the
machinists, we aren't training those
in the UK, we don't have those
skills and the risk concern as to
what happens next for the industry.
When I lived in Italy, it was a huge
frustration to designers who had
made a brand that sold around the
world that some of their skills were
disappearing because they were
bringing in people from abroad to
keep down the cost. When Brexiteer
is saved those are the sort of
people we need to start retraining,
building up a British brand?
all well and good but it's whether
they want to. Students come in to my
work for placements and we offer a
good technical placement because I
believe in making clothes, I can
make something from beginning to end
that not many people are interested
in learning to be a machinist.
People are interested in being a
designer and that is different, we
in the UK have to say it is gorgeous
to be a pattern cutter or a
machinist and have that pride as
opposed to purely in design.
the idea of labour and raw materials
which use a lot of imported
materials, fashion is very global.
Christian wear something that is
fabulous, we try and copy it, but
that idea of a globalised creative
spirit, how does that get affected,
or does it, when Britain leaves the
It's not so much to design side
of things although there are
questions about, right now I could
go and potentially have a job in the
design house in Paris, how easy
would that be after Brexit remains
to be seen. Somebody at my level may
not have the issues, the issues are
further down the food chain.
you need to hear next week when the
European governments get together?
Harass any materials?
important because we're bringing
things in from the EU all the time
and what that looks like in terms of
the finished price of goods because
we have an amazing design industry
and we need to support it.
This is Beyond 100 Days.
Still to come:
The changing face of
National Geographic -
What these pictures tell us about
its past and its future.
The police investigation
into the Grenfell Tower blaze has
revealed a fire door has failed
a fire test.
Experts said it was supposed
to resist fire for 30 minutes,
but lasted for only 15.
Tom Symonds reports.
Could what happened
here be the result of
That is what the police
Highly technical work,
including the test of a door
from a Grenfell flat.
One that was undamaged in the fire.
In this standard test,
heat is applied to one side
and the door must
hold for 30 minutes.
Here, there's some smoke, but this
door easily passes the test.
The sample from Grenfell
lasted 15 minutes.
The police informed the government,
which has consulted its own experts.
There is no change
to fire safety advice
that the public should follow.
I, nevertheless, fully appreciate
that this news will be
troubling for many people,
not least all those affected
by the Grenfell tragedy.
That is why, based on expert advice,
we have begun the process
of conducting further tests
and we will continue to consult
with the expert panel
to identify the implications
of these further tests.
This picture is from
before the fire.
Flats appear to have
had a variety of doors,
but they were fairly new.
The doors were replaced in 2012,
not as part as the major
refurbishment of Grenfell Tower.
After that work there
was a safety inspection.
The investigators will want to know
were the doors properly assessed?
For the survivors, understanding why
it happened is vital.
It's very important for Grenfell
survivors and the bereaved families
to feel that we can honour
the memory of those who have died.
One way we can bring justice
is to make sure that regulations
and progressive policies ensure that
people feel safe in their homes
once again and that means
tightening the regulations.
But those questions will come later.
For now, this is still the scene
of a criminal investigation.
Tom Symonds, BBC News,
at Grenfell Tower.
You're watching Beyond 100 Days.
It's famous for its glossy pages
of photos and stories
from around the world,
but National Geographic Magazine
is taking a moment
to re-think its past.
The publication has said
its previous coverage was racist
by showing different groups
as exotic or savage
and reproducing a racial hierarchy.
Now the latest issue
of the 130-year-old publication
is confronting its troubled history
by being entirely dedicated
to the issue of race.
With us now to discuss it
all is National Geographic's
editor in chief, Susan Goldberg.
What made you decide to look not
just at the issue of race, it is the
50th anniversary of the
assassination of Martin Luther King,
but National Geographic's role in
I thought if we were going to
speak credibly about race, we should
look at her own history because I
have heard that the pages of our
magazine was the first place that
readers were exposed to community is
different to them.
So you look back
and what did you find?
time of the civil rights movement in
the US, we didn't capture people of
colour living in the US, did not
acknowledge their roles beyond being
labourers or domestics, then when we
went overseas we portrayed people as
You gave an example of a
1962 addition for your team went to
South Africa, just a little while
after the massacre in Sharpeville,
how did National Geographic cover
There were really not
voices of black South Africans and
the story did not even mention the
Sharpeville shootings, which
horrified the world. What was
encouraging is that in 1977 when we
went by, that story talks about the
opposition leaders, we have pictures
of Winnie Mandela and we are talking
about apartheid and capturing the
problems, so you can see how much
the coverage changed after the civil
Do you think in the
way that you represented cultures
abroad you didn't so much teach
people in the US because you didn't
talk about black culture, did you in
some ways through the photographs
reinforce the prejudice?
our historian to help us undertake
this and he is an expert here, he
said he thought our coverage
reinforced a colonial view of the
world. You have National Geographic,
founded in 1888 at the height of
colonialism and for a long time that
was the view that was reinforced.
There is much of our history we are
proud of, how we brought people into
the broader world, but we didn't do
How conscious are
you now of this issue of unintended
We tried to make sure we are
covering a diverse world with a
diverse group of photographers and
writers, so people go into
situations where they will not fall
into easy cliches, so we are more
able to provide context and
perspective. We are also giving
people in their communities cameras
so they can document their own
lives, which we would never have
done 15 years ago.
Thank you for
coming in, it's a great bit of
Do you like fish and chips?
Yes, of course.
I used to make fish and chips -
in another life.
It was my Saturday job.
But here's the thing,
all the fish we sold on a Saturday
afternoon was haddock and cod.
But now we are being
encouraged to eat other fish.
Fish from our own local waters,
partly to help the British
fishing industry but largely
because it is much more sustainable.
You are seriously going to call them
Brexit feis? I'm going to give you
Britain exports 75% of the fish
it catches and imports
70% of its consumption.
That's because the Brits don't
like the fish from their own waters.
Take that one, Christian! We don't
like our own feis.
You will know why
in the second.
So let me show you the top three
fish the Marine Conservation Society
wants us to start eating.
No real painting. Any man who fished
as a boy used to catch these. When I
caught one of these, I would stick
it in the frying pan and it tasted
pretty good but if you put that in
the deep fat fryer and have it with
fish and chips, it will be to bone
and skin me.
I wouldn't buy it even
This is hate, rather more
good looking. And herrings, we do