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Good morning. This is the Daily Politics. Today's top story:


European leaders meeting in Mexico agree new plans to shore up the


eurozone, including using the bailout funds to buy-up government


bonds. But is Angela Merkel fully signed up? David Cameron picks a


fight with the Argentine president over the Falkland Islands, telling


Cristina Fernandez at the G20 she should respect the wishes of


Falkland Islanders. Back home, Vince Cable gets ready to unveil


his plans to curb executive pay but will a shareholder vote every three


years really end what the PM described as crony capitalism?


how much is enough? We'll hear from the economist, Lord Skidelsky, on


how Britain has become a nation obsessed with consumption. We are


invited to discover our souls in shopping. More stuff does not make


us any happier. He said sipping wine from a silver goblet. All that


to come before 1pm and, of course, Prime Minister's Questions at Noon


today, starring William Hague and Harriet Harman, since Mr Cameron is


in Mexico for the G20 meeting. That is over but he has gone to me the


Mexican President, and also the richest man in the world. And we've


been joined for the whole programme by the International Development


Minister, Alan Duncan, and the Shadow Leader of the House, Angela


Eagle. She has very carefully chosen her jacket to colour co-


ordinate with my tie. Welcome to you both. We'll come to the big


issue of the eurozone in just a moment. First, let's take a look at


the other overnight story coming out of the G20 meeting. David


Cameron's confrontation with the Argentinian President over the


Falklands Islands. Yes, last night the Prime Minister told Cristina


Fernandez de Kirchner that her country should respect the views of


Falkland Islanders, who will vote in a referendum on the issue of who


should control the islands next year. I wanted to make absolutely


clear here, at the G20, to the Argentine President, that the


people of the Falkland Islands have decided to hold a referendum about


their future. If she believes in democracy, she should respect the


outcome of that referendum. It was important to make that point and a


made it with some vigour. David Cameron speaking after his


discussion with the Argentinian President, Cristina Fernandez de


Kirchner. The Prime Minister is making a very straightforward


statement of principle. It was not his confrontation with her, it was


her confrontation with him. Trying to thrust a letter into his hand


while being filmed by a member of staff. He did not seek her out?


Downing Street is saying he did. The Prime Minister has made a


principled statement. It is the view we have held since the


island's were invaded 30 years ago. We are commemorating that this


month. In international law, the Prime Minister is 100% right. Her


antics, which are trying to detract attention from domestic problems,


are getting a bit out of hand. Labour policy is bipartisan on


this? I do not know who did the media stunt. We were invaded 30


years ago. It is a very important principle. Let me finish my


sentence. Sovereignty is important. Self-determination is important. We


will see what happens with the referendum next year. David Cameron


is not speaking to the Argentinians about the Falklands. The


Argentinians are refusing to talk to the Falkland Islanders. Wouldn't


it be helpful if somebody talk to somebody? Always better to talk


than resort to other issues. Jaw- jaw, better than war-war. Let's


wait until we have the referendum. The views of the people that live


in the Falklands will be tested. It will be plain for all to see.


is there to talk about? Is it the policy of the Labour Party that the


islanders can determine their own future? Of course it is. Let's see


what they say in the referendum. The islands belong to the Falklands.


We will not negotiate on a share off the boil. Of that is down to


the Falkland Islanders. -- that is down. We're being very careful in


following what Argentina is doing. This is mostly the sounding off of


President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner. We do not want to be


provocative. We want to state the principle it is up to the islanders.


There are facts. The Argentine economy is in a mess. It is


interesting for the eurozone. It has never really recovered from the


time in defaulted. That is not allowed him to international


borrowing markets again. It is in a mess. Its military is apparently


the same as it was in 1982. They have had no money to upgrade it.


There does seem evidence the sabre- rattling from when Sarah's is to


cover for this. -- Buenos Aires. Let's not be complacent about the


mess here. You have these lines tripping off your tongue. Last time


you work on the show, you told me they would not have a double dip.


Net sort out the mess at home. Remember who created the mess!


that case, I have to throw my hands up. Always blame the man in the


pink tie. This afternoon, the Business Secretary, Vince Cable,


will announce his plans for controlling the pay of Britain's


most senior business people. After months of consultation, Mr Cable


has decided on three measures which he hopes will go some way to


limiting executive pay. His plans include forcing companies to have


binding votes on executive pay every three years. Companies will


then have to stick to their pay plans for the next three years or


hold another shareholder vote. They will also have to publish a simple


figure every year showing how much executives have been paid. And they


will have to say how much an executive will be paid if they are


sacked or quit. At the moment, shareholders vote every year on


executive pay packages, but the result isn't binding. In January,


David Cameron said shareholders and customers are being ripped off by


the excessive growth in payment unrelated to success. Will the


measures stop the crony capitalism that David Cameron talked about?


is very important. We have seen a new sort of Army of people called


management, who are getting extremely well paid, but not for


taking a particular risk. Those who do take the risk - shareholders -


have become divorced from management. I think you need to


take a longer term view. A three- year horizon is a big step forward.


That was not what Vince Cable intended to do. Has somebody got to


him and watered the proposals down? He clearly said to the House of


Commons there would be an annual binding vote on future pay policy


and he wanted to increase the bar at which any future pay packages


were endorsed to 75% and may have both gone. I think a three-year


horizon is better. A lot of people are getting rewarded for short-term


share increases. They should be rewarded for a much longer term


improvement in the fortunes of companies. A three-year package is


much better than a one-year package, where a manager can just organise


its he has a share increased, do a takeover, get some money and then


go. Vince Cable said he would get 75%. To think they have been


watered down to some extent because people like you and your colleagues


think it is better? I am not aware of such discussions. For someone


with a commercial background, I think it is sensible step forward


for reconnecting shareholder voting power with the decisions on


remuneration for senior managers. This will do and go some way in


trying to correct what David Cameron sees as excessive pay


unrelated to success. It is an embarrassing climbdown. The


Government stands up for the wrong people. It is standing up for


shareholders. In the week after, it became clear that last year


managers got an increase of 12% in their pay, taking it and average of


nearly 5 million a year in the FT- SE 100, while everyone else had


stagnating pay levels. The economy was not doing fantastically. It is


not the time to water down what the Government announced it was going


to do. That is what Vince Cable appears to be doing. What they


should be doing is having an employee on a report. They should


be publishing ratios of pay from the average to the highest for


every company. They should also check and require fund managers to


publish how they vote on executive remuneration packages. What is


wrong with having workers on these remuneration boards and having a


ratio between lowest and highest payers? You do not think I would be


good for the corporate health of the country! What I am saying is


introducing politics for political purposes... It is not a question of


politics. How would it improve the corporate nature? It is important


to see what the value of businesses are and how they treat the work


force by looking at these ratios. It is an indication and it makes


the point that businesses do not perform in a vacuum. Here are part


of society. They should behave in a way that looks after all of the


staff and not pay excessive increases, which takes no account


of the wages squeeze and the real hardship a pupil and the society


are suffering at the moment. -- that people and society is


suffering from at the moment. companies may have a few employees


who are paid a lot because they're very technically proficient people.


Another sort of company might employ a lot of people, let save to


ring road works, which is an Army of lower-paid people. -- let's say,


doing road works. It should be up to them to explain that but the


information should be out there. I have big news. Ministers will not


attend the England quarter-final match against Italy in Kiev. They


said there is still selective justice in the Ukraine. If they


make it to the semi-finals, in Walsall, ministers will attend. No


decision has been taken on the final, which is in the Ukraine.


It's almost lunchtime and the news from Athens is that a government


will be formed imminently. Which means, that by tea time, it will


probably have collapsed! Nevertheless, world leaders, who


have been gathering at one of their regular G20 beachside pow-wows,


have apparently come up with yet another scheme to rescue countries


in peril. The details will apparently be fleshed out at the EU


summit next week. Nothing concrete was agreed in Mexico. So, what do


we know? Spare a thought for those poor G20 leaders having to drag


themselves away from the beach in Mexico and back to their respective


countries. But have they actually achieved anything? For the first


time, Angela Merkel has indicated that Germany may be prepared to


allow the eurozone's bailout funds of around �600 billion to start


buying the debt of the weaker eurozone members. It is hoped such


a move would help to push down the borrowing costs of countries like


Span and Italy. Steps are also being made towards a banking union


within the eurozone, which could mean an EU-wide deposit guarantee


scheme and a rescue fund for banks that get into difficulty. David


Cameron said he believed there was important progress towards a


solution to the eurozone crisis, although European leaders have said


there will be nothing concrete until the EU summit at the end of


the month. It has not been all smiles however. When referring to


the new French government's plan to increase income tax for high


France's European Affairs Minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, dismissed the


comments as misplaced British We've been joined by the new French


Socialist MP for London and Northern Europe, Axelle Lemaire.


Welcome back to the programme. Thank you.


Now, all these reports were coming overnight that the eurozone


countries in mex -- and Mexico seem to have agreed that that bail out


funds could be used to buy Spanish and it Italian foreign debt, but I


have looked to find where this agreement could be. I can't see


anybody saying that, particularly Mrs Merkel? Well, the fact that


they mentioned the bail out and link it to the Spanish debt problem


is an improvement in itself. I think there is another source of


agreement in the fact that they make reference to final communique.


Make reference to growth enhancing measures. What does that mean?


means that States at a domestic level, but probably at European


level, will try to implement measures, and invest money in some


identified sectors such as new technologies, inhe vation, where --


innovation, where is there a potential to create growth and jobs.


Mrs Merkel didn't even give a press conference before she left Mexico?


She didn't need to because they agreed on a press communique.


No, everyone gave a press conference. I think she didn't


because she didn't want to be asked questions. The wires out of Germany


are full of stories of the German Government playing down the idea


that bail out funds could be used to buy sovereign debt? It is


mentioned in the communique. No. No, it is not actually. The communique


simply talks about ways to reduce the cost of sovereign debt. It


doesn't mention using bail out funds to buy it? Your president


wants it, doesn't he? Of course. And what I have heard about the the


summit is that - it was harmonious, more than six months ago which


shows that there is real improvement and they are all keen


to come to a result. Last time you got rid of the Greek


and the Italian governments? teams, the French and German teams


are clearly discussing together ahead of the European summit and


that's when things will be decided. Your president is going - he is on


the way to increasing, it increase the top rate of tax to 75%. He has


increased minimum wage. He is going to have new rules to stop stop


factory closures. Is that the pro growth measure that would encourage


businesses to invest in France? thing about the dividend tax. You


talk about tax. We talk about growth. Why is that? Because the


idea is to create an incentive for companies to reinvest their profits


into investments so into the creation of new values instead of


distributing the money to shareholders. Last year only, in


France, 45 billion euros were paid to shareholders from CAC-40


companies. That money could have been used in the investment


products. If you were a shareholder, why


would you invest if you you don't get a dividend? These in the long-


term, these companies are likely to make bigger profits.


Don't you want shareholders to get dividends and spend it? If you take


them away, they won't spend it? is an opportunity to promote small


and medium sized companies. It is a question of a long-term economic


strategy. It is not about creating a tax haven.


Does the British Government have a position on whether the bail out


funds, one of which doesn't exist yet, which is the ESM, the other


one does which is the EFSF. Does the British Government think these


funds should be used to buy sovereign debt of Spain and et and


Italy. I don't know. I don't know what has


come the of the summit. The big picture is these decisions which


look as as though they will be taken in France are unlikely to


make France more attractive and and competitive. A a lot of investors


can invest in UK companies instead of French ones if they are not


going to get a dividend. A a lot of people will look elsewhere if


France does this. A rich-hunt is unlikely to lead to the growth that


President Hollande claimed? It does not seem to be lead to go growth


here. The floor is is yours! reminds me of Mr Sarkozy's.


We have had encouraging employment figures today. That's good news.


The claimant count went up. The point that we have to keep on


making. There is no quick fix. You can't pay off a mortgage with a


mortgage. One of the advantages in the UK is very, very low interest


rates. If we were to go the Ed Balls route and take out a bigger


mortgage to pay off the mortgage, interest rates would go up. That


would kill growth. There is long, slow, hard escape from the legacy


we have inherited. You need a more balanced plan. This Government has


driven us back into double dip recession. Only Italy and the UK


are in a double dip recession. The plan we have got in this country is


not working. We need a more balanced plan. We need a plan for


jobs and growth. We need to invest in infrastructure, to kick start


the economy and to create more jobs. Does Labour have a position on


whether the bail out funds should be used to buy sovereign debt?


it is for the eurozone to decide. I know that. I know that. It is yes


or no? However, we think that the European Central Bank should be the


lender of last resort. They have to have a mechanism for dealing with


the problems that there are sheltering these countries.


The ECB bought over 200 billion of sovereign debt last year. I will


ask you one more time and it is yes or no, does Labour have a position


on it? The minister has been on, he says he doesn't know. Does Labour


have a position or not? We haven't got a position because we haven't


seen what they are suggesting, but what we were saying earlier is that


they have to have a lender of last resort. It has to be... No, you


said that that twice. How do you feel about Mr Cameron


touting for rich rich French folk come to go live in London? Either


you try to help the rich or you try to create a friendly economic


environment for businesses which is what they want to do in France.


Would you advice the British Labour Party to go for a top rate of tax


of 75%? I won't advice the Labour Party.


They need all the help they can get? I will not comment on what UK


does and I hope that's what British, that's what British politicians


think. First of all, you want people to


invest. You want people to start-up new businesses. But if they do


really well, you will take away 75% of their income. You are mixing two


issues here. There is the 75% rate concerning 3,000 individuals on one


side and the whole pack of tax measures concerning companies which


are very, which are very bald and likely to create growth. So it is


two different issues. How much do you think taxing 3,000 individuals


at 75% will raise? Probably not very much. What's the point in


doing it then? It is symbolic. Happens if they come here?


report was launched this morning in France. 20% of the French


population, a fifth of the French population owns more than three-


quarters of French properties, French values, French... There is a


disproportion in how the wealth is owned and distributed. Unlike this


country you have a wealth tax so it has not worked? Well, no, because


it was cracked by Mr Sarkozy. The distributional figures were the


same before he did that. I would suggest what will happen is that


nobody will now pay themselves more than one million euros. It is a


marginal rate. But nobody will pay themselves, why would you? It is on


revenues only. What it means is that people will have - that rich


bunch which spend a lot of money in France, will have less money to


spend and that will inhibit your growth as well? Well, I think it is


a pure cliche to think that when the 3,000 rich people spend money.


This is likely to have the the economic effect of a entire


community. When I say it is symbolic. London is a good example.


If you can redistribute money to people who aren't as rich as that,


they tend to spend it in the economy, but people who are very


rich save it. Why don't we have a 75% tax then


for the very rich? Are you in favour of a 75% rich tax? You will


see what our manifesto says when we get to the election. I am not going


to write it here. We have to have economies that are


fairer. We have to get the right balance between rewarding - we have


to get the right balance between rewarding success and ensuring that


you don't. Are you for or against it? I am not


going to make our tax policy in this programme much as you would


like me to, Andrew. I am just looking for an opinion.


Are you enjoying being a French Socialist member of the assembly?


Very much. Until she came on to your programme.


We love having her. I was in Paris yesterday, hence my pin. I received


my Republican scar of. -- scarf.


You should have wore it today. You are our line into the French


national Assembly. Thank you.


Andrew, have you noticed more French people coming over? I am


going over to Paris in a few weeks time. I am going to help the


economy. PMQs shorts shortly. We will be treated to Harriet mar man


taking on -- Harman taking on William Hague. The PM went or the


summit. He has a number of meetings and maybe he will find to have fun


recharge his batteries. You will not see pictures of him on the


beach. If he does get a moment to chillax, there is one thing we hope


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look at Big Big Ben. It is a glorious summer's day in


Westminster. We have James Landale. Is it true because the press


revealed that the flat that the Prime Minister was staying in, the


G20 logo, if you turned the camera around, you could see he was beside


a beautiful beach and Caribbean waters. So his people took pictures


of journalist sitting in the sun. Two things happened. One, was the


subsequent interview that took part a day later with the Chancellor, it


was originally inside, there was a bland logo behind the camera. That


was away from the windows, but yes, I am told that Downing Street


officials have taken photographs of journalists relaxing and are


threatening to release the photos if there is anymore comments...


would any journalist be worried about relaxing in the sun for a


while? It is a good question. Relaxed or gone to the sun?


experience, I rarely get time to do that and if I don't somebody will


find more work for me to do! So much to do about nothing at PMQs


today? A bit of Syria, I think. I think we will have a bit of health


are my well informed punts on what Harriet Harman to go on. Harriet


Harman and William Hague are oldies at this. They have done it


previously. So they have done this before. They know the routine.


Occasionally there is the potential for sparks and health is clearly a


live issue with the industrial action tomorrow and I think also


there might be questions about rationing. There was a Freedom of


Information Request. In the Health Service. That's where


I suspect she might go. A lot of issues to go on? There is


meat and there is lots of of humour. I expect chillaxing and Jeremy


Browne. Mr Speaker! I have been asked to


attending the G20 summit in Mexico. I am sure the whole House will wish


to join me in paying tribute to the servicemen who have lost their


lives in Afghanistan since the last Prime Minister's Question Time.


Lance Corporal James Ashworth and corporal Alex guy of the 1st


Battalion the Royal Anglian Regiment. Our sincere condolences


are with families and loved ones. Last week I visited the armed


forces in Helmand where I was reminded of their exceptional work


on behalf of our country. That work and the sacrifices must never be


forgotten. I joined the Foreign Secretary in expressing our deepest


sympathy to the families of our fallen heroes and prayed God will


comfort them. Belfast International Air link into Heathrow is an


invaluable asset to the economy of Northern Ireland. There are deep


concerns that this link is at risk because the landing slots are


allocated to carriers, rather than regional airports. Will the


Government urgently publish a strategy that ensures our


international airport maintains its link with Heathrow? The Department


for Transport will consult on future aviation policy in the


summer and a spot evidence on options about maintaining the


status of the UK as an international hub for aviation. The


London to Belfast link is important. There are 18,000 flights per year


between the two Belfast airports and the five main London airports.


I hope he agrees our steps to devolve power over passenger duty


rates will also boost investment and tourism. As my right honourable


friend will know from my recent letter to the Prime Minister, the


situation at the Coryton oil refinery on the Thames is becoming


increasingly difficult. In an attempt to secure our manufacturing


and well-paid jobs and fuel supplies cut will he use the


offices of the Prime Minister to secure an urgent summit, bringing


together the heads to explore every single avenue possible to keep the


refinery open? This is very disappointing news. My honourable


friend has been very active on theirs. They have been helping the


administrators secured the long term prospects for the refinery. We


are looking at further options, working with the council's task


force. The Ministry of State has met with representatives of the


workforce and the local community. Can I join the Foreign Secretary in


paying tribute to Lance Corporal James Ashworth of 1st Battalion


Grenadier Guards and corporal Alex Clive of the Royal Anglian Regiment.


They died serving our country with the utmost bravery. We join him in


sending our deepest condolences to their family and friends. While we


know there is still a long way to go before the people of Burma get


the democracy to which they are entitled, the fact that progress


has been made is due to the extraordinary commitment and


courage of one Women, injuring more than two decades of house arrest.


Will the Foreign Secretary join me in expressing our utmost admiration


for Aung San Suu Kyi? I absolutely will. It is highly appropriate to


raise this in Prime Minister's Question Time. I was the first


European Foreign Minister to visit Aung San Suu Kyi and visit them at


the beginning of this year. I found her not only in reputation but


substance, and absolutely inspirational figure. There is


still a long way to go - not only bringing democracy to Burma - but


ending ethnic conflicts. We look to the Government of Burma to continue


to travel on this road to release remaining political prisoners.


Across all parties we look forward to giving Aung San Suu Kyi a


tremendous welcome tomorrow. thank the Foreign Secretary for


that answer. He was right to visit Burma when he did. Whilst we


support the suspension of sanctions on Burma, will he reassure us the


position of the British government will remain? Sanctions will be


reimposed unless there is sustained progress towards democracy and the


rule of law. That is very much our position. I have said that to be


Foreign Minister of Burma. We argued with the European Union that


sanctions and restrictive measures should not be lifted


unconditionally but should be suspended. That is so they can be


reimposed if progress comes to a stop. They have been suspended for


12 months. We will review progress through that period. Having met the


President of Burma, he is absolutely sincere in his


intentions. There will be elements within the Government of Burma who


are not so enthusiastic about these changes and who will be alarmed


about success in recent by- elections of Aung San Suu Kyi and


her party. We will keep up the pressure as well as a welcome for


these changes. I thank the Foreign Secretary for that answer and to


his commitment to keep up the pressure for progress. Can I turn


to domestic issues? Specifically the National Health Service. This


week, a survey showed that 90% of Primary Care Trusts, because of the


financial pressure they are under, are restricting access to treatment.


This will hit older people. How can he justify an elderly person with


cataracts in both eyes being told they can only have surgery in one


of them? How can he justify that? It is totally unacceptable if


trusts are rushing on grounds of financial considerations. The NHS


medical director has written to them to tell them the only criteria


of decision must be clinical and not financial. If evidence is found


they are ignoring that, the Secretary of State can intervene.


The Department of Health were looking to cases where they using


financial conditions. Allegations like this have been made before,


including under the last government. The Department of Health is very


clear about that a match to be welcomed across the House. There is


evidence. It is not just cataract operations. There are 125 different


treatments being rationed on the ground -- the grounds of cost. What


should he say to an elderly patient who needs a hip replacement? Wait


in pain or tried to pay it and go privately. I say three things. --


tried to pay and Gove. Arbitrarily restricting access to operations


was not just happening under the last government, it was allowed


under the last government, such as in it 2007. Patients in Suffolk had


to wait 14 weeks for routine surgery. The NHS Trust was told not


to operate on non urgent cases until they waited a minimum of 20


weeks. I would say, GPs and doctors should be going to work tomorrow,


not on strike. We, on this side of the House, encourage them to go to


work. I hope she and a Lord Bannside of the House was so


clearly today there are those doctors should be at wet mire. --


and all on that side of the House will say clearly. We do not want


GPs to go on strike but we are proud of what we did in the NHS.


More doctors, more nurses, cutting waiting lists. It is always the


same. Labour builds up the NHS and the Tories track it down. Today he


is saying he is 100% behind the Government's health plans. It is a


different story in his own constituency, isn't it? Last month,


the Foreign Secretary took to the streets, marching in protest


against NHS cuts. Let's remind ourselves what the Prime Minister


said about midwives. Just before the general election, the Prime


Minister wrote for The Sun newspaper, because, professionally


of course, they were all in it together. He said, we will increase


the number of Maguire's by 3000. Can he confirm they have broken


their promises? -- midwives. That was a long question of though I


congratulate her on not having the Shadow Chancellor here today, which


does help everyone concentrating. He is obviously Dom the Chancellor


is at the G20. The Shadow Chancellor is presumably doing


another opinion poll on what people think of him. On the questions that


are asked... We are going to tell him that for nothing! On the


questions of poor value under the Conservatives... I am glad she says


GP should be at wet mire. She should tell that to her own


spokesman. -- at work tomorrow. She said there would be a lot of public


support for the action they are taking. There is a clear division


across the floor of the House. It is perilous to go into the affairs


of another constituency. That is nothing to do with funding or


health reforms. I will tell her all about that separately if she would


like. We are proud of what has happened in the National Health


Service when we look at average waiting times for both in-patients


and outpatients. They are lower than at the last general election.


The best performance ever has now been detained for patients waiting


after 18 weeks to be treated. The total number of qualified clinical


staff is higher than at the election. There are 3900 more


doctors since the election. Hospital infection levels are at


their lowest level since surveillance of them began. And he


never answered the question about midwives. Before the election, the


leader of the opposition was all, yes we can. As soon as he became


Prime Minister, it is no we cannot. Services rationed, patients


suffering and public satisfaction at the new lead. That is the Tories


on the NHS. The Prime Minister once told us he could sum up his


priority in three letters - N H S. Isn't it more like, Ella well! --


LOL! It obviously took a long time to think of that one. I have set


out the achievements of the Government on the National Health


Service, in in the King's Fund, in its latest report. -- event. They


say there is no evidence of a decline in service quality or


performance. Infection rates have not notice as they deteriorated but


our remaining relatively stable. MRSA and ceded the Silk are


reducing. These are important achievements in-house service. --


C-difficile. They are a contrast with the number of managers


doubling under the Labour Party. At contrast when they were last in


power when the number of NHS managers rose six times as fast as


nurses and a huge contrast with Wales where Labour is cutting NHS


Given the appalling behaviour of Liberal Democrat Cabinet members in


not supporting the Secretary of State for Culture Secretary, would


my preferred Deputy Prime Minister arrange a divorce divorce from the


yellow peril so we can govern with Conservative policies as a minority


Government? LAUGHTER


THE SPEAKER: Order. I'm sure members having heard the question


will wish to hear the answer. I am sure they will, Mr Speaker. I


think my honourable bringing up a divorce might be troubling to Mrs


Bone and we should all seek to reassure her that he is only


talking about a political one! But as someone who helped to negotiate


the coalition and who values enormously our co-operation with


the Liberal Democrats, I will not be advocating a divorce in the


Government. Can the Foreign Secretary confirm


that apart from Italy, the UK is the only country in the G20 in a


double dip recession? Well actually, the actual fact of


the matter is that the IMF forecast that in the coming year, the


British economy - they may not want to know what is going to happen.


The Shadow Chancellor, he is not here with his hand gestures, but he


said we should take notice of the IMF and they say in the coming year


the the British economy is going to grow faster than the German or


French economy. That next year, growth in the British economy will


be similar to that of the United States and twice that of the


eurozone and that would not be happening had we not brought the


excessive deficits and debts of the last Government under control.


Thank you Mr Speaker. In light of the historic signing in China for


record investment, the granting of the turn around cruise terminal in


Liverpool and the support of the automotive industries for 1,000


more jobs at Jaguar and saving the vaux Vauxhall would you say this


Government had done more in two years to expand private enterprise


on Merseyside than Labour did in its entire tenure?


Well, yes I would, Mr Speaker. I would say - I would say exactly


that. And I would point out that that success which she described is


37%, British exports to China, going up 61%, British exports to


India, going up 73% and that is also because the British Government


is out there championing British business which the other side


neglected to do. Account Secretary of State


Secretary of State inform the House why it is in their proposals for


regional pay that why he wants to see his nurses in Richmond,


Yorkshire to be paid less than say nurses doing the same job say in


Richmond, Surrey? Well there, is an issue that the


pay review bodies are now now examining as the honourable member


will know. They will report next month, but the case for local pay


and they will make their recommendations, we can debate that,


the case for local pay was was made by a Chancellor of the Exchequer


who said it makes sense to recognise thighs that a more --


recognise that a more considered approach offers the best route to


employment. That Chancellor of the Exchequer was his neighbour, the


right honourable member for kal caddy.


THE SPEAKER: I'm sure Conservative backbenchers which to hear from one


of their coalition colleagues. Thank you, Mr Speaker.


The Department of Health accepts that radiotherapy is the cheapest


and most effective way of treating cancer, despite this the department


will spend over �1.5 billion on cancer drugs this career, but less


than a third of that on radiotherapy. In the south-west


several of our hospitals rely on charity to fund basic radiotherapy


services... THE SPEAKER: Order. Order. Order. A


one sentence question and a short sentence. So could the right


honourable gentleman speak to the Prime Minister about authorising


the investment that unused money into radiotherapy so hospitals in


my region... LAUGHTER


My honourable friend is right to point to the importance of


radiotherapy. It is also important to stress that decisions on


treatments should be made by clinicians based on whatever is


appropriate for their patients, but we are investing over �150 million


more over the next four years to expand radiotherapy capacity and I


know my honourable friend will welcome that. As well as the fact


that at the same time over 12,500 extra patients benefited from the


�650 million Cancer Drugs Fund introduced by this Government.


Thank you, Mr Speaker. The regional growth fund is the Government's


flagship scheme for boosting jobs and growth in the regions. The


recent National Audit Office report criticised it for spending too much


money on projects creating too few jobs. In some cases, �200,000 per


job. What is the Government doing about it? Well, the honourable


member's region will benefit, including �235 million from the


regional growth fund. Of course, it is important that that money is


spent effective and my colleagues will do their up most to ensure


that is happening, but it is important to remember his region


benefits from so many other things the Government is doing, including


infrastructure projects to support growth in the West Midlands and an


enterprise zone in Birmingham City centre and an enterprise zone for


the Black Country. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My constituent Ian Tapper


has lost 300 cattle to Bovine TB. The last Government did nothing


about this issue. Whilst I recognise the work this Government


has has done, when it comes to disease control regular regulations


there will be proportion nationality and nothing that is


likely to detract from their livelihood? My honourable friend


raises an important issue. Bovine TB is one of the most serious


challenges facing the British cattle farming industry and last


year around 26,000 cattle were slaughtered in England alone. DEFRA


will be making an announcement tomorrow will how they intend to


proceed on this subject. Cattle measures continue to be the found


aches of our TB -- foundation of our TB control. I invite him to


stand-by for an announcement tomorrow.


The Foreign Secretary will be aware that today the 14th Dalai Lama is


in London and will be visiting Parliament this afternoon. Will he


use this opportunity to restate his Government's commitment to the


Human Rights of Tibetans within Chin We -- China? We believe in the


universalality of Human Rights. And that is a point that I often make


to Chinese leaders including in the dialogue that I conduct with China


on an annual basis. We have a formal Human Rights dialogue with


China which we do not shy away from raising any of these cases. We do


see, as did the last Government, we see Tibet as part of the people's


Republic of China. But we also look for meaningful dialogue between


representatives of the dal la la of the Dalai Lama and the Chinese and


we will support that. Government has made clear its


commitment to to root out tax avoidance by public officials and


civil servants. Account deputy, can the Foreign Secretary make clear...


Can the Foreign Secretary make clear that the Government will be


robust in rooting out tax avoidance by the corporate sector who do jobs


for Government or are employed by the Government?


Yes, and I won't mention to the Deputy Prime Minister his slip!


LAUGHTER It is between ourselves!


LAUGHTER In these four four walls! Yes,


absolutely, the Chancellor set out clear in the Budget his


determination to deal with tax avoidance and to do so without


warning in future and I know for the Chancellor -- I know if the


Chancellor was here he would say that applies to the corporate


section as well. The Government believes it is not


reasonable or fair that households should receive a greater income


from benefits than the average weekly wage for working households.


In some cases, it can be more than double the average household income


and our changes will mean no family on benefits will earn more than a


working family's average salary, �26,000 for a couple and single


parent households. This strikes the right balance between supporting


families and providing incentives to work.


Rents in my constituency are high. Jobcentre Plus, there are 900


families who have between them 2,000 to 4,000. Their benefits will


be cut on average on the 1st April by �200 a month. This will either


cause them to rack up rents arrears or have to move. Mayor, Boris


Johnson, says he will not preside over the removal of the poor from


inner London. Boris gets it. Why doesn't the Government?


Well, I know that the honourable member has long running concerns


about this and has frequently expressed them and I think it is


important to stress that for all but the most expensive parts of


London, at least 30% of all private rental properties will be


affordable. In London, under the system, that we inherited, 150


families were receiving housing benefit of over �50,000 a year. And


that is not acceptable to the taxpayers of this country in


general. And our reforms are fair. Housing benefit will be paid to


meet rents of almost �21,000 a year. There is also �190 million fund for


discretionary payments to help local authorities with the changes


and including assistance to renegotiate lower rents with


landlords, but the principle remains and I say it again, it is


not fair that people on housing benefit can afford to live in


streets and homes that people out working hard are unable to live in


themselves. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Wales is the


only nation in the UK without a single yard of electified rail


track thanks to the party opposite as a former Secretary of State for


Wales, could the Foreign Secretary persuade the Government that


extending track as far as Swansea, not just Cardiff, will be great for


Wales and cheaper than the refurb of Tottenham court Station? Well,


the Welsh Secretary is working hard on this. We are committed to


electifying over 300 miles of railway routes which compares


actually with just nine miles electified under the last


Government. An interesting contrast in infrastructure investment. The


Department for Transport is currently considering a business


case for electification between Cardiff and Swansea, prepared in


Wales, and I understand that the decision will be made by the summer


and of course, it will depend on whether it is affordable and on the


assessment of competing priorities as well.


There is more work to do, but for the third month, unemployment has


reduced in Scotland and for the second year in a year, Scotland is


the best location for foreign investment in the UK. Would the


Foreign Secretary take the opportunity to congratulate the


Scottish Government and Scottish development international which is


the lead agency that secures Foreign Secretary foreign direct


investment? The honourable member is right to draw attention to the


employment figures which we must never be complacent about and there


is more work to do. The right honourable lady didn't ask about


these and they show a fall in unloimt unemployment of 51,000.


Importantly, youth employment coming down by 29,000 in the last


quarter, but long-term unemployment is still rising and that remains a


challenge. Of course, Scotland as part of the United Kingdom is an


attractive place to invest in and I congratulate many Scottish people


and businesses on their work. They would have harder work to do if


Scotland were not part of the United Kingdom.


While welcoming overseas students who come to this country to get a


world-class education, will my honourable friend look on vice vice


vice qulorce on chancellors who believe they can't compete? Last


year 10,000 students -- -- 120,000 students were granted the right to


extend their stay here? Yes. The Government has introduced reforms


to stamp out abuse and restore order to the out of control student


visa system. Making the immigration system easier for students,


universities and the UK Border Agency to operate. So we are


closing bogus colleges and regulating the remainder.


Restricting the right-to-work here and bring dependants and making


sure that all but the best go home at the end of their studies. On


that basis, of course, talented students from around the world are


welcome here in the United Kingdom. As MP for Rotherham, can I welcome


the fact that the right honourable gentleman has realised the ambition


thwarted in 2001 and briefly is in charge of the clattering trade.


Will he he take this opportunity, as we have two Asian Nobel prize


winners in the House of Commons this week, to invite a third,


currently rotting in the Chinese goulag. From the dispatch mention


his name and invite him here to London for next year?


Well, it is the nice words about Rotherham are being exchanged at


Prime Minister's Questions. I welcome the question from the right


honourable member. We raise individual cases, of course, with


the Chinese and often do so publicly, but I will assess which


one to say raise and when to do so, of course, but the Human Rights


dialogue that we have with China is very important and it is important


that in China there is an understanding of our deep concerns


about many of these cases. He can rest assured I will be raising them.


N-the cause of deficit reduction, the Government is reducing funding


to the police by 20% in real terms over four years. Can my right


honourable friend assure me in the cause of deficit reduction he will


be insisting on a reduction to the European Union budget by over 20%?


Highly desirable as that would be, that contribution is not decided by


a single decision of Government, but is the balance between two


large figures determined in other ways. He can rest assured however,


that we will be better at negotiating about this than the


honourable members opposite. The Shadow Foreign Secretary is sit


there and when he was Minister for Europe, the party opposite gave


away �7 billion of the British rebate. For nothing in return and


that was an abject failure of negotiation and leadership that we


will not repeat. Does the Foreign Secretary agree


with the words of the honourable member when he was quoted in the


Newcastle Journal as Saying, "I see no regional argument for re-- I see


no argument for regional pay.". pointed out the views expressed by


the former leader of the Labour Party on local pay and regional pay.


It is also worth pointing out that the last Government in 2007


introduced local pay into Her Majesty's courts and tribunal


service. Would my right honourable friend


agree what a wonderful announcement it was for Rolls-Royce, future


engineering jobs, bottom bardier look look -- Bombardier creating


more jobs. This indeed is good news. It is


good news for investment in this country. It is good news for Derby


and the area and it is good news for the long-term security of this


country that we are prepared to invest confidently in submarine


technologies for the long-term. Account Foreign Secretary tell the


House how the snooper's charter which the Government plans to intro


durex differs from -- differs from -- -- introduction differs?


differs from that. The proposal of the last Government was to hold all


data in a central database. This is requiring provide torce hold on to


-- providors to hold on to their data. This is designed to be a


criminal's nightmare and unless we update it, unless we update our


ability to detect terrorism, to detect criminality in this country


then that will have a serious effect. I am plan to go look at


this in detail. It is important for maintaining law and order.


The highlight of the Olympic torch relay will take place on 6 6 July -


- 6th July when it arrives in Southend. Would my right honourable


friend agree the Olympic Games is an opportunity for our country to


come together and celebrate this Government putting the great back


into Britain? Well, the arrival of the torch in


Southend is one of the highlights. The other highlight the fact that


today it is passing through Richmond in Yorkshire. I would have


dearly loved to have been there to see it, but that is one of the


highlights. He is quite right there, is an enormous opportunity for this


country. We are looking through the Olympic Games to secure over �1


billion worth of iward investment to attract four million extra


visitors include to go Southend, to use the Games, to inspire more


young people to take up sport. It is a great moment for Britain.


Thank you, Mr Speaker. We know that the Prime Minister likes - forgive


me! We know the Prime Minister likes to chillax down the pub, but


when it comes to Anglo-French relations, shouldn't he adopt a


more sober approach? Well, the Prime Minister always has


excellent relations with any president of France including with


the new president of France and we should welcome and applaud the fact


that the city we are standing in, sitting in today, is the seventh


largest city for French people in the world and of course, they are


welcome here in the United Kingdom whatever their Government is doing


I think the Speaker's wrist watch must have come to a stop was at the


main bone of contention was the NHS. A troublesome Tory MP wanted a


divorce between the Tories and the Lib Dems. The Deputy Prime Minister,


as he is always called by Simon Hughes, William Hague always said


he was not up for a divorce. Johnny Depp and Vanessa parody up on their


way to a divorce. They can also report that Ken Livingstone came


top of the Labour Party NEC elections. He was top of the poll.


He said he was not going to run for election again and he has. From


Athens, the head of the Socialist Party, says Greece has a government.


That is a first step chorus --! Let's find her what you thought


about the elongated PMQs. -- find out. It was David Cameron and Ed


Miliband eat your heart at. This from built in Doncaster, William


Hague was as ever the great performer. I think Harriet Harman


and the Labour Party actually like William Hague. We think he is


lovely. Should David Cameron be looking over his shoulder? David


Cameron can only dream about such a performance. Barton from


Wolverhampton. A complete cheap shot up from Harriet Harman. In the


Labour years it was not matched by productivity gains. The Government


is claiming credit for increasing the number of doctors in the NHS.


It takes seven years to train a doctor. All these doctors will have


done the bulk of their training under the last Labour government.


This from Ellis. It is good to know we will have high growth next year.


Also orders been up and the deficit being paid off. -- being up.


like our viewers when they do things like that. NHS, I know it is


not up there in public concern with the economy, which are still the


number one issue. It is becoming a problem from thicker -- for the


Government, isn't it? The first couple of years this Parliament has


been dominated by rows over NHS reform. You will recall how hard it


was for the Government to get that through their paws. The impact of


that legislation will begin to start having consequences. Those


changes now will be operating on the ground. Harriet Harman started


poking fun at those members of the Government, such as William Hague,


who have been protesting against changes to their own hospitals in


their own areas. William Hague said, the changes to the hospital in his


constituency a lot about the broad thrust of government reforms will


stop that is beginning to take effect. -- government reforms.


There is also the problem with saying Hellyer hospital.


Chairman of the NHS Confederation says, the NHS is heading for an


iceberg. I do not think that is right. The floor of the House of


Commons is not the best place and to allocate scarce NHS resources.


We had the example of a politician same, by coming up to anything with


radiotherapy? -- why can we not do anything? The act we have passed


will gradually come into effect. GPs will have more power to decide


for patients the kind of commissioning choices we were


hearing during Question Time. But implementation of the Act were


largely address this issue and bring to patients are more, if you


like, consumer power through their GPs, to get the sort of decisions


taken that they want. The magazine for GPs, GP Magazine, has published


a Freedom of Information announcement. It shows that 90% of


trusts are imposing restrictions on certain aspects of care - including


hip and knee operations was up 90%! It has always been the case that


NHS has limited resources for insatiable demand. There have to be


mechanisms, given that price is not the mechanism, because things are


free. We want to see choices made by clinicians will clinical reasons.


Behind that is any budget. Budgets are not infinite. Within budget


constraints, they're going to have to make these clinical decisions.


Pat has always been the case in the NHS. They say it is getting worse.


As with pensions, one of the real problems, is that as we get older,


particularly as we get older and live possibly with infirmity, the


demand on the NHS is dramatically increasing. As drugs and pioneering


techniques cumin, some of the costs are also increasing above the rate


of inflation. -- inflation will stop -- off inflation.


confederation is blaming the lack of spending for these issues. The


Government is committed to increasing spending in the NHS in


real terms. Not by much. You would not have given that guarantee. You


did not commit to increase in health spending. If you were in


power, we would have the same problem. With which not have spent


�3 million on a top down reorganisation of the National


Health Service we did not tell the electorate about before the


election, by forcing through the Health Bill in the House of Commons


and the House of Lords. They should be dealing with Parrott has Asian


properly. I think Alan has been -- inflation properly. I think there


are being examples of people having to wait and not having access to


treatment they need. This will grow and grow. Take a look at this. It's


the EU's foreign policy supremo, Baroness Cathy Ashton. She used to


be a Cabinet Minister in Gordon Brown's government. Here she is,


about to meet the President of Serbia for a photocall. Somebody


has to come with me because I do not know what he looks like. Who


So, welcome again, Mr President. They got that in the end. We know


what he looks like now. You often see on American television in the


primary elections, American interviewers like me trying to get


a moment with the candidate who has come from Tennessee or something.


The first question is, what is the name of the President of


Kazakhstan? It is not fair, it is it? I have been to press


conferences where are I have stuck up by hand. It is the Romanian


Foreign Minister in front of me and I go, sir! It is funny. It is a


great clip. It is not fair. You cannot be expected to know the


names of everyone. Of course not. People mistake me for my sister.


That is what happens. I completely forgive them. Harold Macmillan had


a wonderful technique when he could not remember a constituent. How is


the old complaint? The Speaker has the most extraordinary memory. I


have seen him on the street with constituents. It is like mahout is


the operation you had three weeks ago? -- it is like, how is the


operation? Once a week I get mistaken in the street for the


streaker. You have to meet a lot of foreign politicians in your job for


international aid. Do you have a problem? Normally I am very well


briefed. I did give once at an Arab conference. The Foreign Minister


was gracious enough to say, in this, we'll look the same. Do you carry


photographs of them? -- we all look. When Neil Kinnock went to visit


Ronald Reagan with Denis Healey Club rum Reagan thought Denis


Healey was the British ambassador. --, Ronald Reagan thought. Can you


imagine if no-one in Britain had to work more than a 15-hour week


because we had enough money to lead a good life? Sounds great, doesn't


it? Well, that was the prediction by the economist, John Maynard


Keynes, 100 years ago. He was right about how much money we would have


by now but his predictions about work were dead wrong. Robert


Why are we so obsessed with economic growth? It makes as


Richter. We need more riches to buy more. We are obsessed with


consumption. To buy more, we need to work harder. We work in order to


buy. This may explain something which would otherwise seem puzzling.


About 100 years ago, John Maynard Keynes predicted that by now we


would only be working 15 hours a week. Technology would have allowed


work to be replaced by leisure. In fact we're still working 40 hours a


week. There are two main reasons were the go on working such long


hours. The first is, if there has been a big increase in inequality


since the 1980s. There is the fact of human in sociability. We compare


our fortunes with those of others and find them wanting. Advertising


whips up the desire to have the self-destructing frenzy. We are


invited to find our souls in shops. Surveys have shown that more Wells,


a small stuff, does not make us any happier. There are certain basic


foods like health, security, friendship, personality, respect,


harmony with nature, leisure, which most people would accept has been


part of a good life. By restoring the concept of enough to our


vocabulary, can we expect to get off the gross treadmill and start


to think about how to live agreeably and well? -- growth. And


Lord Skidelsky has managed to tear himself away from the shops of New


Bond Street to join us in the studio. Did you buy anything?


not have any money. Why do you think he got it so wrong in terms


of by now we would all be living the good life? He did not take into


account sociability. There is no natural terminus. People never say,


enough is enough. They're not just thinking about themselves and their


wants. They up thinking about their wants relative to others. He


underestimated the amount of inequality there would be by now.


He thought everything would go up more or less together. In fact, a


lot of people to have enough - more than enough. A lot of people are


more wealthy than they were. Absolutely! Relatively speaking,


what they call the median income - the average income - have diverged


more and more since the 1980s. Taking human nature into account


and people wanted to keep up with the Joneses, we will never think we


have had enough in that broad sense. If we consult what we want and then


compare that with others, you will never get there. If you think in


terms of what is enough for the good life, if one can get back


question addressed, people might start saying, I have got enough for


a good life? I do not have to go on and on and on club wanting more and


more and more. Is this a good calling from you at the time when


actually what we need - arguably - is the people to go out and spend


money in the shops? We need the We are going into the future. It is


not politics today. It is not daily politics that we are in the


business of. You are. We are. We are the Daily Politics.


You are trying to do us out of a job! Then we won't have any money


to spend. We have got a lot of repair work to do on our present


economy before we can get in a position of saying, "Most people


have enough." Is this desirable, Alan Duncan? He can't get enough of


his iPad. People want modern inventions and to say there is


enoughness, we could be gardening on the allotment and looking at the


butterflies on half the income being happy.


Couldn't Couldn't more people be doing that? People want their


holidays and they want to pay their bills and want a better house. They


want a better car and that's human nature and it is ghot it is not


going to change and if Lord Skidelsky was right, the Chinese


would there be in the Paddy fields. I thought David Cameron was into


quality of life, but isn't that more, you know, thinking about what


Lord Skidelsky is saying, rather than what you are outlining? No. I


think David Cameron is right about well wellbeing and that's to do


with things you can't count in terms of money like human


relationships and things like that, a happy mar arjs good friends --


marriage, good friends. But to say we should limit income in order to


create jobs for other people are be satisfied with our lot because we


have more leisure. To have good leisure, you need a good income too.


Of course. No one is denying that. Enough is a good income in order to


enjoy these things. What we are saying is if you go on with a


single goal which is simply to increase gross dom domestic product


and your own income forever and ever and ever, you are crowding out


these other things. Some ideas for your next, manifesto,


Andrew? Gross Domestic Product doesn't measure happiness or the


things that don't have a price. And we have to have a balance between


those things that you can't price in the market, the good life,


leisure, happy family life, time to enjoy.


Would you want to put a limit? have to look at how we value things


and we have to think about the constraints that are coming into


the way our economy works because the Earth can only sustain so much


economic activity. We need to see what we can do about those which is


what Alan spends his time doing, who have to live on on $3 a day.


Lord Skidelsky, at the moment, the priority seems to be, helping


unemployed people get into work, but people working longer. I think


you are past retirement age, I hope I am not being rude, but you are


still working? So you are not putting your feet up? There is a


difference between idleness and leisure. I don't have to. I am not


obliged at this point to work for a living. I have done my working for


a living and I do what I want to do. One of the things I want to do is


appearing on this show! Here. Here. That's not work.


A pleasure. I am not getting paid for it. I don't have to do it.


It is giving people more time to do things they want to do rather than


what they have to do. And you are right, a lot of people, about 13


million people in this country aren't even on below the minimum


poverty line. Lord Skidelsky, we hope you will


come back on the programme as part of your leisure time.


I hope you will ask me. We will! The Greek Conservative


leader is off to tell the President of Greece that he can form a


Government. Who will be the next Prime Minister? We don't know the


nature of the coalition, but at least by the end of the day there


will be a new Prime Minister of Greece.


Finally, wait. MPs have coined the term Parliamentary stone for the


amount of flab they put on after being expose totted treats on offer


-- to the treats on offer at Westminster. Here Adam who has


blown our catering budget. Come with hee, with me while we


test if Westminster types are as glut news as reports -- glutonous


reports. Would you like a doughnut? I am a


savoury person. I am Shadow Health Secretary, I


don't think they are healthy enough. Not one of the plain ones? No. They


have all got topings Yes, that was Bill Oddie.


You have to be careful. You get invited to lots of breakfasts and


lunches and it is impolite to refuse.


But you will refuse us? And take steps like going to the gym where


I'm heading. Some of their colleagues need help


to be as virtuous which comes in Westminster's Weightwatchers group.


We tracked down a member. temptation is the institution of


House of Lords tea because a long day, you got lots of votes, you


think "I will go and have a cup of tea." Before you know it, you are


having a teacake and toast and it does build up.


Ed Balls entered the London Marathon, David Cameron knows a run


some days keeps the moobs at bay. Lord Adonis looks as if he could


with a few doughnuts. It turns out this lot are healthier


than we thought. Or are they? will have that one. Don't give that


one away. It is the biggest one.


We have got doughnuts. Yes, we have. Why have you got them all? I am


looking after them. They are all fresh. Never tempted. You have not


put on the Parliamentary stone, have you and you haven't.


Discipline. Discipline. It is an unhealthy place to work,


isn't it? There is food and booze everywhere. It can be and long days


and a sedentary lifestyle. Don't use the lifts, use the stairs.


I was running at 6am. Yes, but from the police!


There is time to give you the answer to our Guess the Year


competition, it was 1946. Remember the black and white footage? Alan


just press that button and you will pick this week's winner. And it


is... Dave O'Neill from London. It must be my long lost Irish cousin!


That's it for today. Thanks to our guest, Alan Duncanan and ang --


Alan Duncanan Angela Eagle. We will be back tomorrow with more


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