04/11/2015 Daily Politics


04/11/2015

Jo Coburn and Giles Dilnot present the latest from Westminster, including discussion of Jeremy Hunt's pay offer to junior doctors and live coverage of Prime Minister's Questions.


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The Government's about to publish plans for new surveillance laws.

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The Investigatory Powers Bill will set out how the police,

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intelligence agencies, and other state bodies can access people's

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In fact, David Cameron's having a spot of bother over a few issues.

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Yes, take the dispute over junior doctors' pay

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They'll get an 11% pay rise, but they'll have to work more

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Is today's new offer enough to ward off industrial action?

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Barnaby from Bristol, it could be your lucky day.

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Jezza's been crowd-sourcing his questions to Dave again.

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And, it's meant to celebrate our cultural and creative heritage

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And with us for the duration, a beautifully gender-balanced

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panel, especially designed to please Jack Dromey's wife, Harriet Harman.

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Deputy Leader of the Commons, Therese Coffey,

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who famously got locked in the House of Commons library, and

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Shadow Home Office Minister, Jack Dromey, who has never been locked

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Now first this morning junior doctors in England are being offered

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an 11% pay rise in an attempt by the Government to head

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But Saturdays would become part of their normal working week -

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rather than being classed as "unsocial hours".

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And there'd be an end to guaranteed annual pay rises.

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Let's hear what the Health Secretary, Jeremy Huntm had

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We have actually been wanting to negotiate with the BMA since June

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but they have refused to sit round the table with us.

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Instead they have proceeded to ballot for industrial

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I think the only responsible thing to do is actually to publish what

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our offer is today when it is clear they are not interested

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Jeremy Hunt. IDG decide to go public with the offer of an 11%

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Jeremy Hunt. IDG decide to go public basic pay for junior doctors instead

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of going to the BMA and negotiating? basic pay for junior doctors instead

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The situation has been drawing out. It

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The situation has been drawing out. to address that. We want to make

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sure every doctor who has to address that. We want to make

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understands the implications. It really matters. It has not been or

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negotiation. That is the criticism of the NBA. -- BMA. Is that the

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right way to handle it? You heard from the Health Secretary, he felt

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the BMA was from the Health Secretary, he felt

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negotiate. It does matter that instead of having to do something

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through an intermediary, brothers and the BMA want to hear the facts

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themselves and get that decision. It is good for them and bid for patient

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themselves and get that decision. It safety. There is a lot to be

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positive about in safety. There is a lot to be

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good. There is loads of anger. The ballot papers could go out today. It

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has not worked, the negotiation. ballot papers could go out today. It

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deal. If you are told by your union you will get a 30 the cent pay cut

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and you will work more hours, it would be no surprise to be angry

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and you will work more hours, it that is not the case. --

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and you will work more hours, it cut. They will have

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and you will work more hours, it It is good news for doctors. Do you

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and you will work more hours, it Yellow mac and it has two

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and you will work more hours, it justify its own actions. The 11% pay

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rise which is being offered follows justify its own actions. The 11% pay

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a cut of 20-30% in out of hours pay. Rightly or wrongly, that is the net

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result of the contract that is being, not

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result of the contract that is Government, the BMA says it will be

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imposed if Government, the BMA says it will be

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can understand why doctors are out on the streets protesting.

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can understand why doctors are out do not choose when they are ill.

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There is a need to address the issue that people have higher success

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rates if they are treated, or arrived in hospital, on a weekday.

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We believe by moving from the 10am -7 p.m. Standard hours for Monday to

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Saturday and then an additional premium for working any thing and on

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Sundays, we think that is the right balanced approach. Do you

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Sundays, we think that is the right is there they lose 20%-30% of that

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out of hours pay bastion marked it is about mitigating a loss of 30% of

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out of hours pay. -- out of hours pay? No junior doctor will lose pay.

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Not true. Why do you say that? I have looked the facts and listened

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to junior doctors. Is it true there should be extended coverage at the

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weekends? Yes, it could mean the issue of life and death. Jeremy Hunt

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is a wee bit like dodgy employers are used to deal with in the world

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of work, making now you see it, now you do not office. 11% offer, that

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camouflage is what will happen in terms of unsocial hours payments.

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One junior doctor I saw this morning will lose ?8,000 a year as a

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consequence. What are you proposing? Are you proposing they should keep

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the 11% pay rise and still be paid doubled the amount of money they

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will get for anti-social hours? My experience the world of work does --

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is that it does not help when the employer places a gun at your head.

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Going over the head of those who represent junior doctors. That is

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wrong. The next stage is that we would be with the Government saying

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we need enhanced capacity at the weekend. What we need is a

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withdrawal of the threat, a toning down of language, a serious

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negotiation at the next stages, where there will be some give and

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take. Would you go to junior doctors in your constituency and say, oh by

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the way, I know you will get 11% more because you will lose unsocial

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hours, you will lose ?8,000 a year. That is not the case. Every single

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junior doctor will not lose a penny. For those where there is a

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transition, there will be a pay we met to cover that. A basic starting

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salary will increase to ?25,000. By the time they come to training it

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will be ?55,000. We will have to move on quickly. Should the BMA

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withdraw its threat for balloting members? They should be back around

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the negotiating table. If I were Jeremy Hunt, I would ring the phone

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and contact the BMA to try to sort this out. This is about safeguarding

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the interests of junior doctors. Should they further compromise? The

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Secretary of State should be very clear. He has made a very clear

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offered to the doctors directly and they need to act on that. Take it

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all leave it. Now yesterday, the former

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Labour Leader, Neil Kinnock, gave an interview in which he warned

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the current Labour Leader, Jeremy Corbyn, that British voters would

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not back a party that supported Lord Kinnock said his party must

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confront the "reality" that it will not win a general election with a

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defence policy opposing the renewal But only hours after he issued his

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warning, Scottish Labour MSPs voted with Nicola Sturgeon's Nationalists

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at Holyrood for a motion calling Now, Jeremy, do you actually support

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what Lord Kinnock was saying? The reality is the British public will

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not vote for a party that supports unilateral nuclear disarmament. Any

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government, which is perceived to put national-security at risk, there

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is no doubt. I know fast lane very well. The instinct of the British

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people is that they want to be guaranteed they have strong national

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defences and the capacity to intervene globally where

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appropriate. The first thing is, we must in -- unequivocally be on the

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side of the British people. To be frank, we must learn the lessons

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from history that if we sound like we're anti-defence, the British

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people will never support the Labour Party. So, Jeremy Corbyn is wrong?

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You can have an intelligent debate about how you might make bold moves

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as part of a multilateral strategy. Sometimes the debate gets

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polarised. I do a unilateralist or a multilateralist? Do I want to see a

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nuclear free world? Yes, without hesitation. We must not send the

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message that somehow we're anti-defence. We never have been and

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we never will be. What message is Labour sending? MSPs in Scotland

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voted with nationalists to scrap Trident. Its leader supports the

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renewal of Trident. The vast majority of Labour MS -- MSPs

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supported but the leader does not. There is a lively debate going on.

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There is no doubt about that. What is quite interesting is, in my

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dealings with the Armed Forces over the years, within the Armed Forces,

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there were different views in relation to the nuclear deterrent. I

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have not got a problem about a sensible debate about how you might

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take some bold steps here nationally to achieve that international

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objective. Let's have that debate at the next stages. Coming back to

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that, do not ever send the message that somehow we do not take

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seriously the national security of the people of Britain. Today in the

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police debate, will be arguing exactly that. Some people are saying

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you are sending a message. When do you have that debate? The Shadow

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Defence Secretary wants to push this decision out of the way. There is a

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gateway decision coming in the next 12-18 months, when will you have

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that debate? The key period will be the next 12 months. Maria Eagle is

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heading up a debate. We need to have that debate in an open and honest

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way. It does not send the wrong message. Labour is a party of safety

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and security and strong defence. It is extraordinary. You have Labour

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leadership normally crating people in Scotland. Or to getting rid of

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Trident -- supporting and getting rid of Trident. The Labour

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leadership wants to scrap Trident. We, in the leadership debate, say

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the grass roots movement may have a very different view to the PLP. With

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the greatest respect to Teresa, I have a great deal of respect for

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her. Within your party, first of all, you are the Government that has

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presided over very significant cuts to our Armed Forces but also

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presided over the biggest cut in Europe to our police service, which

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is putting at risk safety and security where people live and

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work. I am not sure I will take any lessons from the Tories about

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safeguarding national security. You are pointing out cuts to

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conventional full SIS. Can Labour send out a message to the British

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public that it supports defence, is rock-solid behind defence, but can

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do so without the nuclear deterrent? We need to have the debate about how

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we can make bold steps to achieve this. How we might take some bold

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steps to achieve this. It comes back to the fundamental point, which is,

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we will never, ever, put at risk the national-security of the British

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people. Jeremy Corbyn also mentioned there are problems about having a

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vote on the problems in Syria. He said on television that perhaps

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Labour needs to revisit taking action over Isis. Mistakes were made

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in Iraq. No doubt about that. I am open-minded in terms of military

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intervention in Syria. All I would say is it has to be part of a wider

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package will stop you cannot stand by and see terrible things happening

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on the 1 hand. On the other hand, to believe you can resolve this simply

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by way of military force is to arrive at the wrong conclusion.

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Thank you. What do you think about the renewal of Trident? Do you back

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it? At the next stages, the debate will be having, what place does

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Trident play in defence policies? I have given my answer.

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Now, free from the compromises of coalition with the

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Liberal Democrats, and in power with the first Conservative majority

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government in nearly two decades, the job of Prime Minister should

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have got a whole lot easier for David Cameron after

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Well, it hasn't quite worked out that way.

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Yes, Jo, when David Cameron won an unexpected majority of 12 at the

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election he might have thought that governing was going to get easier.

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But the joys of spring have turned into a gloomy

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autumn for the PM as Conservative MPs get a taste for rebellion.

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20 Tory MPs - amongst them Tim Loughton and Jacob Rees-Mogg -

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backed a Labour motion demanding changes to the Government's plans to

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Then in the Commons on Monday, Zac Goldsmith, Tory candidate for London

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spoke out against the government's plans to extend right-to-buy.

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And that evening it was reported that Downing Street had dropped

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plans for a Commons vote on intervention in Syria, with up to

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30 Tory MPs said to be lining up to vote against the Government.

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Today sees the publication of the Investigatory Powers Bill,

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which we will talk about, with David Davis has been at the forefront of a

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rebels demanding the Government make concessions.

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While Lord Strathclyde has begun his tricky task

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of reviewing the powers of the House of Lords, after peers rejected

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With all of that even before the Cabinet has started to argue about

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the UK's membership of the European Mac, this could get potentially dark

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of the Prime Minister. The Investigatory Powers Bill has

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been published today and it looks as if judges will be granted the right

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to administer and anti-terrorism operations. I'm not going to

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pre-empt what the Prime Minister will say in half an hour. There have

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been three reviews. The need was felt that the executive to be

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heavily involved in the authorisation of warrants, while

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other reviews have suggested that authorisation of warrants, while

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judicial oversight is needed. Do you agree with the need for judicial

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oversight, authorisation? Ultimately the panellist and the Home Secretary

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are accountable to the the panellist and the Home Secretary

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need to ensure the panellist and the Home Secretary

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the most intrusive powers the has come all operate in a legal

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framework has come all operate in a legal

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Secretary will talk about that has come all operate in a legal

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later. Just to be has come all operate in a legal

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think that on the important crucial decisions, it should be a judge that

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makes this decisions, it should be a judge that

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the Home Secretary? I don't want to pre-empt anything. There have

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the Home Secretary? I don't want to disagreements in your party over

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this and David Davis claims it is could go if the bill is to pass. I

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believe the panellist and Home Secretary have been looking

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carefully at Secretary have been looking

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hasn't been thought of overnight and she will present

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hasn't been thought of overnight and of Commons shortly. There has been

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hasn't been thought of overnight and huge listening exercises. It is

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absolutely clear that are premised and the Home Secretary others

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responsible for keeping the country safe, not the judges. That sounds

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like you would be happy for it to remain in the hands of the Home

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Secretary. If it does not and there is not clear judicial authorisation,

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will the bill for? That is likely and it would be a tragedy in terms

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of the safety and security of British people. And don't you come

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in part. -- down to you, in part. We support the strong powers of the

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security services, 20% is counterterrorism and 8% is charged

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sexual exploitation and abuse, paedophile gangs, fraud and grooming

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online. We need enhanced powers, yes, but those powers need proper

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judicial safeguards. So you will vote it down if you do not get those

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judicial safeguards which means you will lose all of it. I think the

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House of Commons is likely to reach a consensus on this in the next

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stages. Because we are at one in rising to the threat posed to the

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people we represents the government must learn from the sorry lessons of

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history that the people of Britain want safety and security but they

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will not trust government to exercise those powers. External

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scrutiny is key. Do you accept David Davis's point that it will not get

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through without that scrutiny because other Tory rebels will not

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say yes to it. To be honest I have not paid attention to what David

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Davis says on this matter, what I am conscious of is that the government

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has been looking carefully at the different powers, I think it does

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want to move ahead with the consensus so that we get to this

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place where we are doing things that will protect the body public. That

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is one the potential rebellion and has been outlined clearly. We have

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had the rebellion on tax credits. Syria is looking like a potential

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problem, we were told they would be a vote on air strikes if there was a

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genuine consensus. It is clear he cannot get one and that is why we

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aren't getting the vote. The government is again trying to which

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a broad consensus, the events of summer 2013 were striking in the

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House of Commons and it is interesting that a group of Labour

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MPs had debate earlier in this Parliament, and seemed keen that we

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should do more in this field. But it is right that the Prime Minister

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should want to get cross-party support for this. Broad support. It

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isn't just Labour, the Daily Telegraph is talking about 20 - 30%

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Tory rebels who are not happy. We have had the report from the

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Conservative select committee. The Prime Minister's language says he

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wants to vote and he hasn't got the support. This shouldn't come down to

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Conservative versus labour. These are serious matters for the nation

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to address. I think the approach is right. There's no point in coming to

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the House without that consensus and I am sure that the premised and the

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Home Secretary will continue to work to achieve that. Will it still be a

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priority to work for this vote? Tackling Syria is a priority, it's

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leading to a man or human tragedy, with the migrant situation, my word,

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we need to tackle the refugee situation. In 2013I was content to

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vote for additional military intervention. Events keep evolving

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but fundamentally the Prime Minister has been clear, we need to resolve

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this situation and it is not having a future for Assad or indeed for

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Isil. When do you think that food should be? -- that vote? I don't

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know but it needs to be when the majority of British parliamentarians

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are ready to say yes. Looking at the refugee situation and the ongoing

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tragedies in Syria, we need to take decisive action. How would you vote?

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I could not in conscious roll out military intervention because if you

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look at the desperate circumstances in Syria that might be appropriate

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-- I could not rule it out. Yet it needs to be part of a wider

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diplomatic solution under the auspices of the UN. I voted against

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in 2013 because it was simply a military initiative. The military

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initiative alone won't solve the problem. On the other hand, if the

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government comes with a size of case, seeking to achieve consensus

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with other countries in the region engaged in finding the solution and

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says that one element that might be safe havens, we should look at that

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with an open mind. But and cannot get consensus, because of the

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leadership, they would not be reliant on the leadership of the

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backbench MPs. It won't get consensus if they say are you for or

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against military intervention. I think the House should say, what

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part should military intervention play in an attempt to find a lasting

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solution. And the Prime Minister has not said, I need every MP to be with

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me on this. There will always be people who oppose military

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intervention come what may, as they do on other matters. Let's not try

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to isolate this again into being something partisan. Finally on the

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mood of backbenchers, presumably you interact with them regularly, what's

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the mood. So many of the new ones seem willing to flex their muscles

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and cause trouble for the government. The mood is largely

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positive, we won an election. One topic that often came up in the past

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was Europe and yet the party is united behind having that referendum

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in 2017. Some people, come what may, will want to leave the EU. It is a

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respectable position to take in that regard but I think the majority of

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people are happy to stay in a reformed European Union. Ultimately

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the British people will decide. They will indeed.

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Now every so often a museum fails to grab a masterpiece

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Over to the V, who have come in for a lot

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of stick over their refusal to show a collection of Margaret Thatcher's

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Who wouldn't like a peep inside one of Maggie's bags?

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I hope your rhyming slang is working! Conservative MPs

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are said to be outraged by the museum's decision

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It's coming up to midday here - just take a look at Big Ben -

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Yes, Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.

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And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here.

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Back from gallivanting. In the last ten days I have been to regulate and

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Berlin because now the government is really starting to try to appear,

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and also to try generally need to push ahead with renegotiations and

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our relationship with the EU -- I've been to Iceland. Last week David

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Cameron pressed the flesh with Nordic leaders in Iceland and

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yesterday we were with George was born in birding with his

:27:37.:27:40.

counterpart, the German finance minister, -- George Osborne was in

:27:41.:27:44.

Berlin. An important person in German politics. They were pushing

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forward the agenda. Angela Merkel says she will do everything she can.

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What that means in practice is more difficult to predict. Indeed it is.

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But the Treasury were delighted and taken aback by just how fulsome she

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was in her promise of help. I think there are some things that clearly

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we know now that are going to be relatively easy for the government

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to get. Getting rid of ever closer union, for example. A lot of senior

:28:13.:28:14.

figures in Europe are on the record union, for example. A lot of senior

:28:15.:28:18.

as saying, that is OK, we'll union, for example. A lot of senior

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to clarify that. union, for example. A lot of senior

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is concerned the tricky thing union, for example. A lot of senior

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be this idea of union, for example. A lot of senior

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that they can't put their own interests and of the pound. That

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will be complicated for Germany in terms of people we spoke to why we

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were there. In terms of people we spoke to why we

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wholesale change, things where the public will think, yes, the British

:28:41.:28:44.

governor has won a big concession, does that look likely at this stage?

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Not at this stage but this is clearly where the government want to

:28:51.:28:52.

take the debate. They've had research done, showing that people

:28:53.:29:01.

are in the middle on this. There are 10% of people on either side who

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would fight to the death to stay or leave, most people are in the middle

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and most people are not paying attention to the

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and most people are not paying really believe that

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and most people are not paying they will be able to

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and most people are not paying fighting around one issue or another

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but the fighting around one issue or another

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can tie in a ribbon and say, here are these miraculous concessions

:29:26.:29:30.

that we have won from the EU. Interesting that the traditional

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political tactic is to pick a fight and then you will look like you have

:29:33.:29:37.

one. They haven't got to that point but one

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one. They haven't got to that point government told me,

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one. They haven't got to that point it needs his crusade and we are

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happy to play along with that. We know that there are voices

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happy to play along with that. We Tory party who will not be happy,

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come what may. Looking at some of the big issues, what might be raised

:29:52.:29:55.

today at Prime Minister's Questions? There have

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today at Prime Minister's Questions? rebellions since the start.

:29:56.:30:01.

today at Prime Minister's Questions? certainly have. Bad mood is up. It

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is in the air. The House of Lords issue around tax credits -- the mood

:30:07.:30:12.

is up. The House of Lords issue has allowed some MPs to feel like

:30:13.:30:17.

rebelling despite being told that it is constitutional outrage. It has

:30:18.:30:20.

changed the mood of the session. People have come back post

:30:21.:30:24.

conference, the Tories had a smooth successful party conference... They

:30:25.:30:28.

feel that the Labour Party is not united and does not know its

:30:29.:30:36.

position. The Tories are certainly not united on the European Union.

:30:37.:30:40.

This is why some Tories worry about them not being a strong united

:30:41.:30:44.

opposition because that can make you feel complacent and you can get

:30:45.:30:48.

involved in your own twists and turns. What will Jeremy Corbyn talk

:30:49.:30:53.

about today. Potentially junior doctors, a very big issue for people

:30:54.:30:57.

around the country. The Department of Health is trying their hardest to

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that the BMA has captured the agenda on this in a slightly misleading way

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perhaps. I would not be surprised if Labour raise that today. Or perhaps

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the visit of the Egyptian leader, talking to David Cameron.

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Additionally given Jeremy Corbyn's interests in those issues, we heard

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him talk about Saudi Arabia before. How much pressure is Jeremy Hunt

:31:23.:31:27.

under? In the context of a spending review in three weeks' time, there

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is Jeremy Hunt under? In the context of the spending review in three

:31:31.:31:32.

weeks' time, there's no new extra money anywhere in government at the

:31:33.:31:35.

moment. I think what he is trying to do is stick to this. Make a deal

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work without promising any extra cash that he doesn't have. We have

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seen before, the NHS can very fast become very troublesome for the

:31:45.:31:47.

government. One of the stickiest moments for the coalition was the

:31:48.:31:52.

reform of the NHS under Andrew Lansley. Jeremy Hunt has come to an

:31:53.:31:57.

impasse with the medical profession. Right now it doesn't feel like the

:31:58.:32:01.

bits of government are thinking that he's made a mess and this is

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damaging him particularly... But... Ballot papers could go out today.

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Senior government figures believe there will be a strike. They are

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prepared to have that fight? There is no extra cash. Nowhere for them

:32:18.:32:21.

to go. This slight recalibration of the deal we've seen today is an

:32:22.:32:27.

attempt by Jeremy Hunt to get around the BMA and make this direct appeal

:32:28.:32:31.

to doctors. There is sense in government that there is small

:32:32.:32:35.

motivated group protesting against these changes but they might be able

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to I know the whole house will join me

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in paying tribute to those who have fallen serving our country. They

:32:52.:32:54.

gave their lives so we could live hours in freedom. It is right to

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reflect on Armistice Day and a contribution to all of those who

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have served our country. This morning I had meetings with

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ministerial colleagues and others and in addition to my duties in this

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House I shall have further meetings today. I would like to associate

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myself with the comments from the Prime Minister. I look forward to

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joining the Armistice Day parade in my constituency. It has grown to the

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largest in Britain. Speaking to constituents in Warwickshire, the

:33:28.:33:30.

Government commitment of 2% GDP spending was very welcome. Given

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volatile state of many parts of the world, it is more important than

:33:37.:33:39.

ever that we maintain that commitment and give rage chew

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support, resources and commitment available. -- give our brave troops.

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We live in an uncertain world. The 2% on defence spending and .7% on

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aid spending helping our security as well as making sure we are a

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generous and moral nation and having the ultimate insurance policy of a

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replacement for Trident submarines. Jeremy Corbyn... Thank you, Mr

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Speaker. I concur with the Prime Minister's marks concerning

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remembrance -- Sunday and remembrance weekend. We mourn all of

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those who die in all wars and resolved to build a peaceful future

:34:37.:34:40.

where the next generation does not suffer from billboards of past

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generations. Last week, I asked the Prime Minister the same question six

:34:46.:34:49.

times and he could not answer. He has had the week to think about it.

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I want to ask him one more time... Can he guarantee that next April

:34:56.:35:00.

nobody is going to be worse off as a result of cuts to working tax

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credits? Let me be absolutely clear with the honourable gentleman. What

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I can guarantee next April as there will be an 11,000 passenger

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allowance, so you can earn 11,000 before paying tax. There will be a

:35:20.:35:25.

national living wage of ?7 20, giving the lowest paid in our

:35:26.:35:31.

country a ?20 pay rise. On the issue of tax credits, we suffered the

:35:32.:35:35.

defeat in the House of Lords. We suffered the defeat in the House of

:35:36.:35:39.

Lords. With new proposals in the Autumn Statement. At that point, in

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exactly three weeks' time, I will be able to answer his question. Now, if

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he wants to spend the next five questions asking it all over again,

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I am sure he will find it is very entertaining and interesting. How it

:35:58.:35:59.

fits with the new politics, I am not quite sure. Over to you. This is not

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about entertainment. This is about...

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This is not funny for people who are desperately worried about what is

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going to happen next April. If the Prime Minister will not listen to

:36:21.:36:23.

the questions I put, will not listen to the questions that are put by the

:36:24.:36:31.

public, then perhaps the Prime Minister will listen to a question

:36:32.:36:35.

that was raised by his honourable friend, the member for Brigg and

:36:36.:36:41.

Goole, who last week concerning tax credit changes said, the changes

:36:42.:36:48.

cannot go ahead next April and that any mitigation should be for

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mitigation. What is the Prime Minister's answer to his friend?

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Very much the same answer that I gave to him. In three weeks' time,

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we will announce our proposals and he will be able to see what we will

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do to deliver the high pay, low tax, lower welfare economy we want to

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see. That is what we need in our country. We are cutting taxes and

:37:15.:37:18.

increasing pay but we also believe it is right to reform welfare. He

:37:19.:37:23.

will have his answer in three weeks' time. Meantime, he had to think

:37:24.:37:28.

about this but if we do not reform welfare, how will we find the police

:37:29.:37:32.

service we are talking about today? How will we find the health service

:37:33.:37:38.

we could be talking about today? How will we paid for the defence forces

:37:39.:37:44.

we are talking about today? The honourable gentleman has been

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consistent. He has opposed every reform to welfare that has ever come

:37:49.:37:52.

forward. If we listened to him, we would still have families in London

:37:53.:37:57.

getting ?100,000 a year in housing benefit. The answer to the question

:37:58.:38:01.

is, you will find out in three weeks' time. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

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The reality is that the Prime Minister makes choices and he has

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made a choice concerning working tax credits that has not worked very

:38:14.:38:17.

well so far. But he must be aware... I give an example. A

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serving soldier, a private in the Army with two children and a partner

:38:23.:38:27.

would lose over ?2000 next April. I asked the question...

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The questions will be heard. And the answers will be heard. Simple as

:38:40.:38:51.

that. Mr Jeremy Corbyn... Thank you, Mr Speaker. Surely that is the whole

:38:52.:38:54.

point of our parliament, that we're able to put questions to those

:38:55.:39:03.

authority. And so, I have a question... I have a question from

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Kieron, a veteran of the first Gulf War. His family are set to lose out.

:39:13.:39:17.

He rides it is a worry for the family. There is fear and

:39:18.:39:20.

trepidation about whether we will be able to get by. Is this how the

:39:21.:39:25.

Government complete -- treats veterans of the armed services? Let

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me take the case of the serving soldier. Many soldiers, indeed all

:39:31.:39:35.

soldiers, will benefit from the ?11,000 personal allowance that

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comes in next year. That means they will be able to earn more money

:39:39.:39:42.

before they even start to pay taxes. Serving soldiers with

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children will benefit from the 30 hours of childcare. Of course,

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serving soldiers and others will be able to see our proposals on tax

:39:51.:39:54.

credits in exactly three weeks' time. What I would say to the

:39:55.:40:04.

serving soldier is that he is now dealing with an opposition party,

:40:05.:40:07.

the leader of which, said he could not see any use for UK forces

:40:08.:40:09.

anywhere in the world at any time. That serving soldier would not have

:40:10.:40:12.

a job if the honourable gentleman got anywhere near power.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can I invite the Prime Minister to cast his mind

:40:22.:40:30.

to another area of public service that is causing acute concern at the

:40:31.:40:36.

present time? I know he is trying to dig himself out of the hole with the

:40:37.:40:40.

junior doctors offer this morning which you await the detail. There is

:40:41.:40:47.

a question I want to put to him. I quote Doctor Cliff man, the

:40:48.:40:52.

president of the Royal College of emergency medicine. He said that

:40:53.:40:56.

this winter will be worse than last winter. Last winter was the worst

:40:57.:41:02.

winter we have ever had in the NHS. Can the Prime Minister guarantee

:41:03.:41:06.

there will be no winter crisis in the NHS this year? First of all,

:41:07.:41:15.

when it comes to the Royal College of emergency medicine, they actually

:41:16.:41:19.

support what we are saying about a seven-day NHS and the junior doctors

:41:20.:41:23.

contract. He says, wait for the detail. I would urge anyone in this

:41:24.:41:27.

House and detail. I would urge anyone in this

:41:28.:41:30.

watching to go on to detail. I would urge anyone in this

:41:31.:41:33.

of Health website and look at the pay calculator. You will be able to

:41:34.:41:36.

see that no 1 working legal hours will lose out in any way at all. It

:41:37.:41:47.

is an 11% basic pay rise. Deliver is the stronger and safer NHS. As for

:41:48.:41:50.

the state of our NHS more generally, it is benefiting from ?10 billion

:41:51.:41:51.

that we put in it is benefiting from ?10 billion

:41:52.:41:56.

Labour Party at last election said they did not support. I believe the

:41:57.:41:58.

NHS has the resources they did not support. I believe the

:41:59.:42:03.

needs. That is why we are seeing it treating more patients with more

:42:04.:42:07.

needs. That is why we are seeing it delivered, more tests being carried

:42:08.:42:11.

out. It is a much stronger NHS and the reason is simple. We have a

:42:12.:42:15.

strong economy supporting our strong NHS. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

:42:16.:42:23.

strong economy supporting our strong that the Prime Minister has not

:42:24.:42:24.

offered any comment whatsoever that the Prime Minister has not

:42:25.:42:29.

the Windsor crisis -- the winter crisis of last year and what will

:42:30.:42:31.

happen this year. Mr Speaker... Order, order! The

:42:32.:42:55.

leader of the position is entitled to ask questions without a barrage

:42:56.:43:00.

of noise. The Prime Minister is entitled to answer questions without

:43:01.:43:05.

a barrage of noise. That is what the public is entitled to expect. Mr

:43:06.:43:12.

Jeremy Corbyn... If the Prime Minister will not answer questions

:43:13.:43:17.

that I'd put, then I quote to him, the renowned King's Fund, which has

:43:18.:43:22.

enormous expertise in NHS funding and NHS Administration, and I quote,

:43:23.:43:28.

the national health service cannot continue to maintain standards of

:43:29.:43:33.

care and balance the books. A rapid and serious decline in patient care

:43:34.:43:36.

is inevitable unless something is done. Could I ask the Prime

:43:37.:43:42.

Minister, which is rising faster? NHS waiting lists or NHS deficits?

:43:43.:43:49.

Let me deal directly with the Kings fund. What we have done on this side

:43:50.:43:53.

of the house is the point in new chief executive to the NHS, Mr Simon

:43:54.:43:58.

Stephens where he worked under the last Labour government and did a

:43:59.:44:01.

very good job for them. He produced the Stevens plan which he said

:44:02.:44:05.

required ?8 billion of government funding. We are putting in ?10

:44:06.:44:09.

billion behind that plan. That is the plan we are producing. The

:44:10.:44:16.

results you can see, we have 1.3 million more operations, 7.8 million

:44:17.:44:20.

more outpatient appointments and 4.7 million more diagnostic tests. What

:44:21.:44:25.

is going up in the NHS is a number of treatments, the number of

:44:26.:44:27.

successful outcomes. He wants to know who is heading for a winter

:44:28.:44:32.

crisis. I would predict it is the Labour Party that is heading for a

:44:33.:44:37.

winter crisis. Look at his appointments! His media adviser is a

:44:38.:44:43.

Stalinist. His new policy advisor is a Trotskyist and his economic

:44:44.:44:47.

adviser is a Communist was the busiest trying to move the Labour

:44:48.:44:52.

Party to the left, I give him full marks. -- a Communist. If he is

:44:53.:44:57.

trying to move the Labour Party to the left, I give him full marks. Mr

:44:58.:45:04.

Speaker, the issue I raised with the Prime Minister was the national

:45:05.:45:08.

health service. In case he had forgotten. I would like to remind

:45:09.:45:13.

him that since he took office in 2010, the English waiting list is up

:45:14.:45:22.

by a third. There are now 3.5 million people, 3.5 million people

:45:23.:45:29.

waiting for treatment in the NHS. If his party cannot match its actions

:45:30.:45:33.

by its words, then I put this to him. Will he just get rid? The NHS

:45:34.:45:41.

is in a problem. It is in a problem of deficit in many hospitals, a

:45:42.:45:46.

problem of waiting lists, a problem of the financial crisis that has

:45:47.:45:50.

been faced with so many others. Can he now addressed that issue and

:45:51.:45:55.

ensure that everyone in this country can rely on the NHS which is surely

:45:56.:45:58.

the jewel in all of our crowns? Since I became premise, let me tell

:45:59.:46:11.

him what has happened since then. The number of doctors up by 10,500,

:46:12.:46:19.

the number of nurses up by 5800, fewer patients waiting to start

:46:20.:46:25.

treatment than under Labour, we have seen mixed sex wards virtually

:46:26.:46:30.

abolished and seen rates of hospital infection plummet. It's happened for

:46:31.:46:35.

a reason. Because we've had a strong economy and some of the strongest

:46:36.:46:39.

growth anywhere in the world, because we have unemployment

:46:40.:46:43.

falling, inflation on the floor, we are able to fund an NHS whereas the

:46:44.:46:48.

countries that he admires all over the world with their crazy socialist

:46:49.:46:52.

plans cut their health service and that the people who need their help

:46:53.:46:59.

the most! -- they hurt the people who need their help the most. The

:47:00.:47:07.

UK's Internet economy is much the largest of the T20 nations at 12.4%

:47:08.:47:14.

of GDP but as consumers move online soda criminals. Does the Prime

:47:15.:47:18.

Minister agree that the Investigatory Powers Bill must give

:47:19.:47:21.

our security services the powers they need to keep us safe, whilst

:47:22.:47:26.

ensuring that proper controls exist on how we use those powers? My

:47:27.:47:31.

honourable friend is absolutely right to raise this. It is one of

:47:32.:47:35.

the most important bills that this House were discussed. It is going

:47:36.:47:40.

through pre-legislative scrutiny. The Home Secretary today will set

:47:41.:47:43.

out very clearly what this bill is about and why it is necessary. Let

:47:44.:47:49.

me make one some ballpoint. Communications data, the who called

:47:50.:47:54.

who and when of Telecom allegations has been absolutely vital in

:47:55.:47:58.

catching rapists, child abductors and solving other crimes. The

:47:59.:48:02.

question before us is, do we need that data when people are using

:48:03.:48:15.

social media to commit those crimes rather than a mobile phone. My

:48:16.:48:18.

answer is yes, we must help the police and our security and

:48:19.:48:20.

intelligence services to keep us safe. Mr Angus Robertson. Think you,

:48:21.:48:24.

Mr Speaker. This week when remember all the sacrifices from past and

:48:25.:48:29.

present conflicts and show respect to veterans and service families.

:48:30.:48:33.

Does the Prime Minister agree that everything must be done to deliver

:48:34.:48:36.

on the military covenant, of the spirit and the letter? I agree with

:48:37.:48:45.

both parts of the question, these remembrance services are important

:48:46.:48:48.

up and down the country and the military covenant is one of the most

:48:49.:48:51.

important things we have where we make a promise to our military that

:48:52.:48:55.

because of the sacrifices they make on our behalf, they should not have

:48:56.:48:59.

less good treatment than other good people in this country, and indeed

:49:00.:49:03.

where we can we should provide extra support. This is the first

:49:04.:49:06.

government to put the military government properly into law --

:49:07.:49:12.

military covenant and every year to improve it whether by hospital

:49:13.:49:16.

treatment, free transport, council tax discount, and so many other

:49:17.:49:22.

things, and we report on it every. Mr Angus Robertson. Is the Prime

:49:23.:49:26.

Minister aware that many service widows continue to be deprived of

:49:27.:49:31.

their forces pensions if there is a change in their personal

:49:32.:49:34.

circumstances? Does he agree that this is a clear breach in the spirit

:49:35.:49:38.

of the military covenant and what will he do to rectify this wrong? We

:49:39.:49:45.

made a big change, last, I think, around Armistice Day, to make sure

:49:46.:49:49.

that many people to Schmeichel last year, to make sure that people who

:49:50.:49:53.

had remarried could get pensions. The big step forward welcomed by

:49:54.:49:58.

British Legion. If we need to take further steps I am very happy to

:49:59.:50:02.

look at them and see what be done. I remember that in the last budget we

:50:03.:50:07.

looked at the case of police widows and tried to put right their

:50:08.:50:11.

situation as well. Doctor James Davis. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Will a

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Prime Minister joined me in congratulating Prestatyn, which is a

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finalist in the great British high street awards? And will he confirm

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whether the UK's government will hold discussions with the Welsh

:50:30.:50:35.

assembly have and which is about the division of business rates councils

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to Wales so that other times in my constituency have a better

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opportunity to regenerate? -- other towns. I do join him in

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congratulating Prestatyn. I don't know if it is in the same category

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as my hometown of Chipping Norton which has also been nominated so I

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might have a conflict of interest. What I would say is, in Wales,

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business rates is a devolved issue but it's open to the Welsh

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government, should they choose to take our approach of devolving that

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business rate income directly to local councils so that local

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councils have a better connection local councils so that local

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between the money they raise and the decisions they make to attract

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business investment and industry to their area. I went to Cheltenham

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ladies College and the Prime Minister went to Eton. Both schools

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which invest Minister went to Eton. Both schools

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teaching and facilities for music, dance, arts and drama. Yet while

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he's been Prime Minister, the schools which educate 92% of our

:51:39.:51:44.

pupils have cut teachers in those subjects. Will his legacy be that

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Britain stopped being a world leader in creative and cultural industries

:51:49.:51:55.

and becomes an also-ran? I do not accept that. And if you look at

:51:56.:51:59.

school funding, it has been protected under this government

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school funding, it has been we want to continue protecting it.

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What I will make no apology for is the clear focus we have on getting

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the basics right in schools. It's absolutely essential that we get

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more children learning the basic subjects and getting basic

:52:19.:52:18.

qualifications. And then subjects and getting basic

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that it is more possible to put in place the arts, dance and drama that

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I want my children to have as they go to their schools. Damian Collins.

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The Channel Tunnel and the Port of Dover are major pieces of lateral

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infrastructure but when there are disruptions to services it causes

:52:38.:52:41.

chaos on the roads of Kent. As the government computers work on the

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spending review will the Prime Minister gives special consideration

:52:45.:52:49.

to the need for an urgent long-term solution to Operation Stack? I

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absolutely recognise the serious problems caused to Kent residents

:52:54.:52:57.

and businesses when it was necessary to put into place Operation Stack.

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We've ready and permitted short-term measures to reduce the impact

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including the temporary availability of one every and is contingency

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measure. I know he met with the Chancellor and other Kent MPs and

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we're happy to build on this work. I understand the pressures and we will

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do all we to relieve them. May I associate myself with the

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do all we to relieve them. May I the Prime Minister made about what

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will happen this weekend and also his comments he made to the leader

:53:24.:53:25.

of the SNP. God his comments he made to the leader

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about the fact that thousands of his comments he made to the leader

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people who served in the royal navy before 1987 are not entitled to full

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compensation, this means that people who have been exposed to disease

:53:40.:53:46.

stand to lose out massively compared with people in civilian life to the

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extent that some idiot who's been exposed in industry could get

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?150,000 in compensation, and it is probable that a service person will

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only get ?31,000. This is clearly a moral outrage as well as being in

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breach... moral outrage as well as being in

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honourable gentleman for raising this issue. I understand the Defence

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Secretary is looking at it. Since putting in place the military

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covenant with tried every year to make progress, whether to do with

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widows or with different groups disadvantaged in some way. I am

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happy to look at the points he makes. Thank you, Mr Speaker. At the

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Royal Society, they've identified the need for 1 million scientists,

:54:37.:54:41.

engineers and technical professionals by 2020. One way to

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bridge the skills grab is an increase in

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bridge the skills grab is an apprenticeships like the ones in

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Basildon. -- the skills gap. Yet for every one place available 20 people

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apply. Will my right honourable friend redouble his efforts to meet

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our commitment to 2 million new apprenticeships? This target is

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essential and I believe we can achieve it. Going back to questions

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from the Honourable member for Slough one way will achieve it is by

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making sure that more young people have the qualifications necessary to

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apply for an apprenticeship will stop many firms find that a lot of

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people apply but when you look at the people who don't have a

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qualification in English and maths and becomes down. I'm delighted to

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announce that in terms of advice and apprenticeships, to make sure we

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work with businesses to get this target, the Right Honourable member

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for structure and maven is going to take the place of the Right

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Honourable member for Watford who is moved on to other things -- the

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Right Honourable member for Stratford-upon-Avon. He is going to

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help me make sure we deliver on this. My constituents in Blackpool

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face a 11 me on police cuts from the spending review and the new Home

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Office formula which tops ?45 million of Lancashire Police. I ask

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him whether a cross-party letter from the MPs of like a ship, one

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from my neighbourhood watch group, one from other commissions, mostly

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Tories, and the Chief Constable, all saying that the process is flawed,

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how many blue lights must he have before we had meltdown? Let me say,

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the reforms to the police funding formula is a consultation on which

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no decisions have been taken. Mayo congratulate the luxuries to him

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because crime is down in Blackpool by 5% -- May I congratulate the like

:56:34.:56:38.

should police. Funding for the Lancashire Police is the same in

:56:39.:56:47.

cash terms as 2003. Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary found

:56:48.:56:50.

that Lancashire Constabulary is exceptionally well prepared to face

:56:51.:56:54.

its future financial requirements. That is the view of HMI sea. In a

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country where crime however you measure it has fallen significantly

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since this government took office. Annemarie Trevelyan. Thank you, Mr

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Speaker. My constituent, one of the UK's leading burns specialists went

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on Monday to Bucharest to help Romanian medical teams dealing with

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the nightclub fire. I understand that there are 150 patients in need

:57:21.:57:25.

of critical care and only 25 beds in big rest. She has asked if the Prime

:57:26.:57:30.

Minister will consider offering practical medical assistance to

:57:31.:57:34.

these victims by allowing the use of UK burns facilities for their

:57:35.:57:39.

treatment. I think my honourable friend is right to raise this tragic

:57:40.:57:43.

event that happened in big rest last Friday. All our thoughts are with

:57:44.:57:46.

the victims and their families. I'm pleased to hear about the visit of

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this doctor and herself was work. It's a very good suggestion to look

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that if we can offer specialist help and I will take it away and see what

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can be done. The Prime Minister will understand the heartbreak at the

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death of a child. For parents not to know what has happened to the ashes

:58:04.:58:09.

of that child, as is the case with Mike and Tina troll hill in Hull and

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other families around the country must be very cruel. Will the Prime

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Minister agree to meet Mike and Tina to discuss why we need national and

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local inquiry as to what happened in that case around baby ashes? Paige

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are completely understand how her constituents feel. This must have

:58:29.:58:31.

been an absolutely tragic event, made worse by not knowing what has

:58:32.:58:35.

happened to their child. I am very happy to arrange that meeting. I am

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not aware of this case. Let me look at it and see what I can do.

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I was delighted that the Chancellor chose our county city of York to

:58:47.:58:54.

launch the new national infrastructure commission. Could the

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Prime Minister confirm that this is the start of a new era where

:58:58.:59:00.

important investment decisions like roads and railways between the

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cities of the North will help to bring growth to our region? My

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friend Mike is right to raise this. People in Yorkshire have long felt

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that there has not been a fair in a deal in terms of transport funding

:59:15.:59:20.

on roads and rail. And I think that people can now see that ?13 billion

:59:21.:59:24.

is being spent on transport in the North as part of our plan to

:59:25.:59:28.

rebalance the British economy. We've committed more than 4.8 ?3 on road

:59:29.:59:34.

improvements and we are still improving the a 64, vital for York,

:59:35.:59:39.

and we will look at what more we can do to make sure this vital part of

:59:40.:59:42.

the economy has the transport links it needs. John Nicholson. Thank you,

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Mr Speaker, on the ninth these extreme state for culture media and

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sport told the select committee that there were no plans to sell Channel

:59:55.:00:01.

4. -- the Secretary of State said that. Can the Prime Minister confirm

:00:02.:00:04.

that that is the government 's position that there are no

:00:05.:00:10.

initiatives underway to privatise this important and much loved public

:00:11.:00:16.

institution. I'm a big fan of Channel 4, it was a great

:00:17.:00:21.

Conservative innovation. A combination of fully why slow and

:00:22.:00:23.

Margaret Thatcher that helped to bring Channel 4 to our screens. --

:00:24.:00:28.

Willie Whitelaw and Margaret Thatcher. I'm a big fan. I wanted to

:00:29.:00:33.

have a strong, secure future. I think it's right to look at all the

:00:34.:00:38.

options to see of private investment into the channel could help to

:00:39.:00:42.

safeguard and the future. Let's look at the options. Let's not our minds,

:00:43.:00:48.

like some on the opposition front bench, let's not close our minds,

:00:49.:00:52.

they think that private is bad and public is good. Let's have a proper

:00:53.:00:56.

look at how to make sure this great channel goes on being great for

:00:57.:01:04.

years to come. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Everyone who has had any

:01:05.:01:09.

contact with the adoption process will be familiar with the

:01:10.:01:13.

frustration that are necessary delays can cause to prospective

:01:14.:01:17.

parents. Would the Prime Minister take action to speed up the adoption

:01:18.:01:22.

process so that more children can be placed with the right families more

:01:23.:01:27.

quickly? Benchmark my friend Mike is right to raise this. We've seen a

:01:28.:01:32.

72% increase in the number of Jordan adopted and the waiting time on

:01:33.:01:38.

average has fallen by five months. -- children adopted. Toulon, yet if

:01:39.:01:43.

you look across the 150 councils responsible, 68 of them have no

:01:44.:01:48.

mechanisms for early placement, where you run fostering and adoption

:01:49.:01:50.

alongside each other. If we could introduce that, not least to our

:01:51.:01:56.

regional adoption agencies that will establish, many more children will

:01:57.:01:59.

get the warm and loving home we want for them. On Armistice Day will the

:02:00.:02:08.

prime ministers that thought for the 633 of our bravest and best who died

:02:09.:02:13.

as a result of two political mistakes. 179 in pursuit of

:02:14.:02:20.

non-existent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 454 who died

:02:21.:02:27.

in the Helmand province inclusion that promised that no shot will be

:02:28.:02:35.

fired. Will he rethink his own plan to order more of our brave soldiers

:02:36.:02:40.

to put their lives on the line in the chaos and confusion of a 4-sided

:02:41.:02:48.

civil war in Syria? I have great respect for the honourable gentleman

:02:49.:02:53.

but with great respect, on Armistice Day we should put aside political

:02:54.:02:57.

questions about conflicts and decisions made, and simply remember

:02:58.:03:02.

the men and women who put on a uniform, went and served and risked

:03:03.:03:06.

their lives on our behalf. Let's make Armistice Day about that, not

:03:07.:03:12.

about other questions. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The last week has been a

:03:13.:03:20.

very good one for Cornwall airport in Newquay with the scrapping of the

:03:21.:03:26.

development fee which was an additional tax on passages and a

:03:27.:03:30.

barrier to growth, the enactment of new air links that link Cornwall to

:03:31.:03:35.

mainland Europe, and the upgrading of the Gatwick limp with the support

:03:36.:03:41.

of the PSL. Will the Prime Minister join me in congratulating the team

:03:42.:03:45.

at Newquay airport for their work in supporting the Cornish economy? I am

:03:46.:03:51.

a huge fan of Newquay airport and a frequent user. The government made a

:03:52.:03:56.

series of promises about helping the airport to make sure that vital

:03:57.:03:59.

connectivity between Cornwall and the rest of the country and

:04:00.:04:03.

continental Europe is there and I am delighted it's so well. Norman Lamb.

:04:04.:04:10.

continental Europe is there and I am Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:04:11.:04:11.

his welcome... Order! I want to Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:04:12.:04:17.

share this question. Mr Lamb? Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:04:18.:04:22.

Mac can I thank the Prime Minister for his welcome for the campaign

:04:23.:04:24.

launched this for his welcome for the campaign

:04:25.:04:29.

from across society joined the Right Honourable

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from across society joined the Right Coldfield, Alistair Campbell, and

:04:33.:04:33.

me, in Coldfield, Alistair Campbell, and

:04:34.:04:36.

those suffering from mental ill-health. The truth is that those

:04:37.:04:38.

who ill-health. The truth is that those

:04:39.:04:41.

the same rights ill-health. The truth is that those

:04:42.:04:42.

as others enjoy in moral and economic case for ending

:04:43.:04:49.

overwhelming. Will the Prime moral and economic case for ending

:04:50.:04:52.

Minister do what it takes to make sure

:04:53.:04:56.

Minister do what it takes to make delivers the investment, the extra

:04:57.:05:02.

deliver genuine equality? Let me say to the honourable gentleman, who did

:05:03.:05:05.

a lot of work on this in the last Parliament, I very much welcome the

:05:06.:05:09.

campaign and what they want to achieve. We set out in the NHS

:05:10.:05:13.

Constitution parity between mental and physical health and we have

:05:14.:05:18.

taken steps towards that for example by introducing the first time

:05:19.:05:21.

waiting times and proper targets for talking therapies. There are now

:05:22.:05:25.

twice as many people undergoing those that abuse as there were five

:05:26.:05:27.

years ago. I those that abuse as there were five

:05:28.:05:30.

there is more to do in those that abuse as there were five

:05:31.:05:37.

committed to doing so. Andrew Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:38.:05:44.

from the gentleman from Norfolk Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:45.:05:47.

North, I want to emphasise that this Mitchell. Following up the question

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agree that there's now Mitchell. Following up the question

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opportunity to build on Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:53.:05:57.

widespread support across all parts of society, and end historic

:05:58.:06:03.

injustice between the treatment of mental health and the physical

:06:04.:06:09.

illness. My honourable friend is absolutely right. We are investing

:06:10.:06:13.

more in mental health than ever. We will spend in 11.4 billion in this

:06:14.:06:16.

financial year and will spend in 11.4 billion in this

:06:17.:06:21.

group to make sure real terms increases in their investment in

:06:22.:06:25.

mental health services so it can't be treated as the Cinderella service

:06:26.:06:29.

that has sometimes been the case in the past. If we do that, and also

:06:30.:06:34.

deal with some of the other issues like mental health patients being

:06:35.:06:38.

held in police cells, we can have a far better system for dealing with

:06:39.:06:47.

mental health in this country. Thank you Mr Speaker. After the

:06:48.:06:53.

announcement of job losses in Northern Ireland, one factor has

:06:54.:06:56.

been high energy costs, will the Prime Minister work with the

:06:57.:07:00.

Northern Ireland energy initiative to address these issues as a matter

:07:01.:07:04.

of urgency. For people who are currently in work in Northern

:07:05.:07:08.

Ireland and are very worried about the impact of cutting working tax

:07:09.:07:12.

credits. Given that the Prime Minister and the Chancellor are in

:07:13.:07:16.

the same mode and showing a surprising degree of flexibility

:07:17.:07:19.

across a range of issues recently will he refers the first of the

:07:20.:07:23.

policy and remove the threat against working families in Northern Ireland

:07:24.:07:29.

and across the country? First of all, on the issue of industries, if

:07:30.:07:34.

a company horrifies as part of the energy intensive industries, it will

:07:35.:07:43.

see a reduction in its bill,, and the second point I would make to

:07:44.:07:46.

Northern Ireland is that we have passed in this House historic

:07:47.:07:50.

legislation to allow Northern Ireland to set its own rate of

:07:51.:07:53.

corporation tax and the sooner we can put together all the elements of

:07:54.:07:57.

the Stormont has agreement, the sooner Northern Ireland will be able

:07:58.:08:01.

to take action to build a stronger private sector in Northern Ireland

:08:02.:08:04.

which is what I want to see. On the issue of tax credits, I give the

:08:05.:08:09.

same answer. He will know in three weeks. He also knows that people

:08:10.:08:12.

working in that business or in others will be able to an ?11,000

:08:13.:08:17.

before they pay taxes, get more help with childcare and have a higher

:08:18.:08:24.

wage. We will keep welfare costs under control so that we can build

:08:25.:08:27.

great public services. Prime Minister's Questions started

:08:28.:08:40.

late and ended even later. It ended on tax credits. A question from

:08:41.:08:44.

Nigel Dodds. Jeremy Corbyn kicked off with tax credits would he

:08:45.:08:48.

referred back to the fact he used his six questions last week on tax

:08:49.:08:52.

credits to then proceed again to try to pin down the Prime Minister on

:08:53.:08:55.

whether anyone would be worse off as a result of the tax credit changes.

:08:56.:09:00.

That followed rebellion and defeat in the House of Lords. The first

:09:01.:09:04.

three questions on that issue. Jeremy Corbyn moved on to junior

:09:05.:09:12.

doctors before then trying to test the Government record on health with

:09:13.:09:15.

his final two questions. It was a slightly awkward and uncomfortable

:09:16.:09:20.

start to Prime Minister's Questions. There was a lot of barracking to

:09:21.:09:24.

Jeremy Corbyn, who just talking before continuing on. The Prime

:09:25.:09:28.

Minister responded on the tax credit issue with, you will have to wait

:09:29.:09:31.

and see. We have the Autumn Statement and the spending review

:09:32.:09:34.

coming up in a few weeks' time. That is where we will find out whether

:09:35.:09:38.

there will be money splashed out to try to mitigate some of the changes

:09:39.:09:42.

to tax credits. Another change in tactics from Jeremy Corbyn was

:09:43.:09:47.

instead of quoting members of the public, he used experts. The Kings

:09:48.:09:55.

fund, a medical expert, to try to put the Prime Minister under

:09:56.:09:59.

pressure. The Prime Minister did not feel as much under pressure this

:10:00.:10:03.

week as he did last week. There were a couple of questions, one from

:10:04.:10:07.

Angus Robertson on the military covenant about whether the Prime

:10:08.:10:11.

Minister and government are committed to that in spirit. One or

:10:12.:10:15.

two questions at the end from Norman Lamb, a Liberal Democrat, and Andrew

:10:16.:10:20.

Mitchell, the Conservative MP. It was about mental health. This was

:10:21.:10:55.

the weakest performance. He looked like a typical politician trying to

:10:56.:11:09.

score Picking up on what you said about tactics, I have been watching

:11:10.:11:14.

PMQs. I am fed up with the shouting and heckling on the backbench side.

:11:15.:11:20.

Isn't it time the cameras turned on the offenders? It might make them

:11:21.:11:26.

behave much better. Ed Miliband used to try to ride through the barrage

:11:27.:11:30.

of it stops and it does have an effect. On the performance of Jeremy

:11:31.:11:35.

Corbyn with the change in tone and tactic, especially health. It felt a

:11:36.:11:41.

little bit faltering. Some of the ways in which he asked the

:11:42.:11:46.

questions, particularly on the NHS. These are important issues. Not

:11:47.:11:50.

necessarily that focus. We know over the years, we watch PMQs, the way

:11:51.:11:54.

you make progress on the way you punch through the political defences

:11:55.:12:02.

of the Prime Minister is by going specific and repeating specific

:12:03.:12:08.

questions and demands. You do not really get that far. It seemed like

:12:09.:12:17.

a strange PMQs. Neither of them were up for the dance today David Cameron

:12:18.:12:27.

said it is getting longer and longer. Part of the energy of these

:12:28.:12:35.

sessions is, you are on the clock, it is a deadline. It felt flabby.

:12:36.:12:40.

John Bercow is allowing lots of questions Jeremy Corbyn has an

:12:41.:12:45.

effective tactic of just stopping when the backbenches are getting

:12:46.:12:49.

incredibly rowdy. That does happen quite a lot of times and gives it a

:12:50.:12:53.

very different mood. Members of the public think it is quite right to do

:12:54.:12:58.

that. Let's move on to the spending review and the Autumn Statement. A

:12:59.:13:01.

lot of that was pushed to, let's see what happens in a few weeks' time.

:13:02.:13:06.

What can people expect? Three weeks today the Chancellor sets out a

:13:07.:13:10.

number of plans. It adds more flesh to the different investment

:13:11.:13:17.

programmes. Will he mitigate the tax credit changes? He said he will

:13:18.:13:20.

listen to concerns being raised and come back to it. We are committed to

:13:21.:13:25.

welfare spending by 12 William pounds and increasing wages and

:13:26.:13:30.

lowering taxes. What will happen with this? -- ?12 million. There

:13:31.:13:38.

will be some kind of mitigation. Worth remarking on a quite

:13:39.:13:41.

significant bus stop that is going on about it with the Chancellor

:13:42.:13:47.

trying to raid the budget of Iain Duncan-Smith's beloveds programme of

:13:48.:13:53.

universal credit. This is the huge, super programme of welfare which is

:13:54.:13:56.

supposed to take over from welfare payments. It has been said that the

:13:57.:14:00.

Chancellor is quite up nicking some of the cash, a couple of million

:14:01.:14:07.

through universal credits. A few sharp words. That would be a very

:14:08.:14:18.

problematic way. The comment made by David Cameron, he has voted against

:14:19.:14:21.

welfare changes. Any proposals where there is a huge amount of money

:14:22.:14:26.

spent which could be spent on other things, particularly non-protected

:14:27.:14:29.

departments. You'll agree you need to bring the cost of welfare down.

:14:30.:14:35.

What you will have is fewer people claiming housing benefit than we

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have at the moment. In the here and now, 82% of children in Addington

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are being brought up in families where tax credit is really matter to

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them. I think it is absolutely wrong he has made this move. It does not

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surprise me there has been a reaction to it against the political

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-- across the political spectrum. Another issue that PMQs today, the

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Prime Minister brushed aside the concerns being expressed by Gordon

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Marsden over the police. Not true that violent crime is falling,

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sexual crime and suchlike is up. Just two weeks ago, what was

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reported on was there would be 5 million crimes of fraud online and

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cyber crime. You would see statistics showing a 40% increase

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will stop most important of all, if you cut 17,000 police officers and a

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further 22,000 police officers, it will put the public at risk. When

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you went to the people of your constituency in Suffolk, back in

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May, did you say, vote for me and I will cut 22,000 police officers? I

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will tell you what I said. I will stand on a platform to balance the

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books we start to pay down the debt that Labour ballooned when they were

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in office was the public has the second lowest funding per head with

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police. 29 forces at the moment will benefit. 13 will reduce the debt has

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led to changes that Suffolk police and others have responded. It makes

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common sense for fire stations and police stations to be one building,

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not separate. It has not been done. The problem generally is the low

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hanging fruit has gone. Where will it come from? All of the back

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office, the tax avoidance, surely it went in the first five years of the

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Coalition Government? That has been taken into account. Where will it

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go? You will have seen a change with police and crime commissioners. They

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bring in ideas without affecting the operation. Those low hanging fruit

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are quite difficult and have not been done.

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a chorus of voices have said simply this, from London to Lancashire,

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chief constables are saying that we can no longer guaranteed public

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safety of the government proceeds with cuts on this scale.

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Non-protected departments are really going to be hit. Behind the scenes

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that are epic battles between ministers and the Treasury about

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where they will find their cuts between 25 and 40%. Some people

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believe the easy savings went between 2010 and 2015. Some

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ministers are trying to look for bigger opportunities to make bigger

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changes to make reforms that also deliver cash but there are really

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serious and worrying conversations. People about this, and briefly, for

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the police, it has become not a serious political issue yet but it

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may well. Some conservative lease commissioners are making protests as

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well. -- police commissioners. Thank you, Laura.

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Are you the type of person who likes a campaign?

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Do you send around appeals on Facebook and change

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Are you fond of a good slogan badge and partial

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If so, does it really achieve anything?

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Writer James James Bartholomew thinks not - he says it's really

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This is the birthplace of Octavia Hill.

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She was co-founder of the National Trust,

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but more importantly, she was a major social reformer in the 19th

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She was appalled by the living conditions of the working poor.

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But instead of just wringing her hands about it

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She created low-cost housing for them.

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These days, many people think that merely

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expressing an opinion establishes that they really, really care.

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They use wristbands, hashtags, tweets,

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twibbons and T-shirts to show they have fashionably right-on opinions.

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I call this phenomenon virtue signalling.

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It is the idea that having and expressing particular opinion

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In Britain we can be quite sophisticated about this.

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We can indicate how good we are by saying we hate something.

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"I hate the Daily Mail" means "I am an open-minded liberal sort

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"I hate Ukip" means "I'm not a racist", and the more angry

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and the more I beat the drum about how I hate Ukip, the more it

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But have you noticed something about this kind of virtue?

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In contrast to Octavia here, it does not require actually doing anything.

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It requires a show of effort and no sacrifice.

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I suppose the reason that all this virtue signalling really

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irritates me is that there are still people who are truly virtuous.

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These are plaques commemorating people who did actual good deeds.

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And that kind of generosity and decency takes place today

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among ordinary people, people who stay together for the sake of the

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children, a person who looks after an elderly parent, maybe for years.

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There is such a thing still as actual virtue.

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But virtue signalling without actually doing

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It is self-righteous, vain, and silly.

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It is not what you say or think that matters, it's what you do.

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James Bartholomew, at Octavia Hill Birthplace House in Wisbech.

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What's new about this? Presumably throughout history there have been

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holier than thou people. As the Internet make this worse? I don't

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know. This is going back to the subject write about, the welfare

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state. The welfare state has a lot to do with it, people feel they have

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outsourced their decency, I pay taxes, therefore I don't have to

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anything! That is part of why virtues signalling without doing

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anything has increased. Are they doing nothing? Surely the idea of

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saying that I feel strongly about this and other people will say, I

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agree, what can we do, you have been crowd sourcing something you can do

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about it, whereas you might not have known what to do in the first place.

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You can do two things. Change government policy which could do

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good or harm, or you could do something like setting up a home for

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the elderly or an organisation that visits lonely elderly people. You

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can do something. And that's great. Campaigning can lead to that. What

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irritates me is the people who I've met, in contrast to people who do

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real good, the people who think, I can say that I hate the Daily Mail

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and Ukip and I vote Labour once every five years, I am a morally

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superior person. That irritates me because there are people who make

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sacrifices... LAUGHTER

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The suggestion is that virtues signalling is a problem for the

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left! The phrase that I created is mentioned several hundred times in

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the Guardian because they are accusing each other of virtues

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signalling. Is that fair? It is not what you say, it is what you do. It

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used to be that if an MP got half a dozen letters they would think it

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was a movement. Now you can get hundreds of e-mails. Many standard,

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some telling personal stories. I think there is now a welcome culture

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of people finding it easier to communicate with their MP and that's

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a good thing. Using to be suggesting that there is a sanctimonious tone

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about it and laziness behind it. Absolutely, lazy, vain,

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self-righteous. With these conditions you can do so easily,

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saying that there are naked women in the Sun, that is awful. Not actually

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changing anything. Do you do virtue signalling, Therese it's

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extraordinary. Twitter doesn't reflect British opinion in anyway,

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even people who click an e-mail, I think that has lost its currency as

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well. You do not have to think things through, you can say, this is

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awful and you don't have do think through the consequences, reducing

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tax credits, what's the other side of the story? What do you do to do

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something about things. I can't start boasting that, that would be

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equally bad! You sort the trap! Do you volunteer, do you do things? I

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don't want to boast about things I do. That would be pride as well. Let

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me spare you the embarrassment, thank you.

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Now, what do Anthony Gormley, William Shakespeare and

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The answer is they all feature in the new British passport,

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designed especially to celebrate the UK's creative and cultural past.

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It's meant to be the most secure passport ever, but its launch

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The travel document features seven men, but only two women

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and no-one from Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.

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Here's what the Home Office Minister, James Brokenshire had

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The people of Great Britain and Northern Ireland continue to be

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pioneers within the creative sector. And in recognition of all of these

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achievements, I'm today proud to unveil the latest design of the UK

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passport. Under the theme of "Creative United Kingdom".

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This design will be used for the next five years, and features the

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works of many of this country's finest creative talents.

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With me now, passport expert Martin Lloyd. He's the author of The

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Passport. This has caused almighty row. Apparently yes, we have a

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pretty picture book for a passport. It wasn't always like that. What was

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it like? It's derived from a letter of introduction and a king 's

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licence which was permission to leave the country. It came looking

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like a letter of introduction! Of course you didn't need a Buddhist

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passport. This man, Charles Sloan, went to France on a French passport!

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It was quite easy. The British passport cost ?2 seven and six, the

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French one cost four shillings. No argument! To bring it forward, only

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two women, seven men. What do you think of that? I don't know. I like

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women! Does it matter? It does. The idea that men are more creative than

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women, there are some outstanding women who should have been included

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like the wonderful architect who designed the Olympic Village. Why

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don't we have creative people of that kind reflecting the diversity

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of this country as well? I just think maybe your government has a

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problem with women? It's not true, Elisabeth Scott is featured and she

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designed the RSC. Do you know much about her? I know she's designing

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iconic buildings. The things we are addressing like gender equality, it

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is nonsense to say that we don't like women. Who has the best

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passport? We must. It is almost the most expensive. Doesn't mean it is

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the best? Of course not. It is a good demonstration of the skill of

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the printers, clever ideas, but the forgers are always six months behind

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them so they have to keep renewing these things. If we left the

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European Union would we need another passport? That would be good, we

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could go back to Victorian times and have something personally signed by

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the Foreign Secretary! That's the way to do it! Passport and 13. Izzy

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and to Thomas Hodges, signed by Lord Palmerston. -- is used to Thomas

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Hodges. When you handed that to a foreigner, they knew you were

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British! This just time to put you out of your misery.

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Therese, press that big red button there.

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The answer to Guess The Year was 2012. The mug goes to our viewer.

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Christa Williams, well done. That's all for today.

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The One O'clock News is starting over on BBC One now.

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Andrew will be back here as well, so do join us then.

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I'm actually tingling with the excitement.

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We're going to test your skills at the wheel.

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It's too intimidating. Do it for your family!

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Jo Coburn and Giles Dilnot present the latest from Westminster, including discussion of Jeremy Hunt's new pay offer to junior doctors and live coverage of Prime Minister's Questions. They are joined by deputy leader of the House of Commons Therese Coffey and shadow home office minister Jack Dromey.


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