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The Government's about to publish plans for new surveillance laws.

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The Investigatory Powers Bill will set out how the police,

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intelligence agencies, and other state bodies can access people's

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In fact, David Cameron's having a spot of bother over a few issues.

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Yes, take the dispute over junior doctors' pay

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They'll get an 11% pay rise, but they'll have to work more

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Is today's new offer enough to ward off industrial action?

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Barnaby from Bristol, it could be your lucky day.

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Jezza's been crowd-sourcing his questions to Dave again.

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And, it's meant to celebrate our cultural and creative heritage

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And with us for the duration, a beautifully gender-balanced

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panel, especially designed to please Jack Dromey's wife, Harriet Harman.

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Deputy Leader of the Commons, Therese Coffey,

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who famously got locked in the House of Commons library, and

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Shadow Home Office Minister, Jack Dromey, who has never been locked

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Now first this morning junior doctors in England are being offered

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an 11% pay rise in an attempt by the Government to head

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But Saturdays would become part of their normal working week -

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rather than being classed as "unsocial hours".

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And there'd be an end to guaranteed annual pay rises.

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Let's hear what the Health Secretary, Jeremy Huntm had

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We have actually been wanting to negotiate with the BMA since June

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but they have refused to sit round the table with us.

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Instead they have proceeded to ballot for industrial

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I think the only responsible thing to do is actually to publish what

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our offer is today when it is clear they are not interested

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Jeremy Hunt. IDG decide to go public with the offer of an 11%

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Jeremy Hunt. IDG decide to go public basic pay for junior doctors instead

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of going to the BMA and negotiating? basic pay for junior doctors instead

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The situation has been drawing out. It

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The situation has been drawing out. to address that. We want to make

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sure every doctor who has to address that. We want to make

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understands the implications. It really matters. It has not been or

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negotiation. That is the criticism of the NBA. -- BMA. Is that the

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right way to handle it? You heard from the Health Secretary, he felt

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the BMA was from the Health Secretary, he felt

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negotiate. It does matter that instead of having to do something

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through an intermediary, brothers and the BMA want to hear the facts

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themselves and get that decision. It is good for them and bid for patient

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themselves and get that decision. It safety. There is a lot to be

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positive about in safety. There is a lot to be

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good. There is loads of anger. The ballot papers could go out today. It

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has not worked, the negotiation. ballot papers could go out today. It

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deal. If you are told by your union you will get a 30 the cent pay cut

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and you will work more hours, it would be no surprise to be angry

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and you will work more hours, it that is not the case. --

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and you will work more hours, it cut. They will have

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and you will work more hours, it It is good news for doctors. Do you

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and you will work more hours, it Yellow mac and it has two

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and you will work more hours, it justify its own actions. The 11% pay

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rise which is being offered follows justify its own actions. The 11% pay

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a cut of 20-30% in out of hours pay. Rightly or wrongly, that is the net

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result of the contract that is being, not

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result of the contract that is Government, the BMA says it will be

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imposed if Government, the BMA says it will be

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can understand why doctors are out on the streets protesting.

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can understand why doctors are out do not choose when they are ill.

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There is a need to address the issue that people have higher success

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rates if they are treated, or arrived in hospital, on a weekday.

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We believe by moving from the 10am -7 p.m. Standard hours for Monday to

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Saturday and then an additional premium for working any thing and on

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Sundays, we think that is the right balanced approach. Do you

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Sundays, we think that is the right is there they lose 20%-30% of that

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out of hours pay bastion marked it is about mitigating a loss of 30% of

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out of hours pay. -- out of hours pay? No junior doctor will lose pay.

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Not true. Why do you say that? I have looked the facts and listened

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to junior doctors. Is it true there should be extended coverage at the

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weekends? Yes, it could mean the issue of life and death. Jeremy Hunt

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is a wee bit like dodgy employers are used to deal with in the world

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of work, making now you see it, now you do not office. 11% offer, that

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camouflage is what will happen in terms of unsocial hours payments.

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One junior doctor I saw this morning will lose ?8,000 a year as a

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consequence. What are you proposing? Are you proposing they should keep

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the 11% pay rise and still be paid doubled the amount of money they

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will get for anti-social hours? My experience the world of work does --

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is that it does not help when the employer places a gun at your head.

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Going over the head of those who represent junior doctors. That is

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wrong. The next stage is that we would be with the Government saying

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we need enhanced capacity at the weekend. What we need is a

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withdrawal of the threat, a toning down of language, a serious

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negotiation at the next stages, where there will be some give and

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take. Would you go to junior doctors in your constituency and say, oh by

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the way, I know you will get 11% more because you will lose unsocial

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hours, you will lose ?8,000 a year. That is not the case. Every single

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junior doctor will not lose a penny. For those where there is a

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transition, there will be a pay we met to cover that. A basic starting

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salary will increase to ?25,000. By the time they come to training it

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will be ?55,000. We will have to move on quickly. Should the BMA

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withdraw its threat for balloting members? They should be back around

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the negotiating table. If I were Jeremy Hunt, I would ring the phone

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and contact the BMA to try to sort this out. This is about safeguarding

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the interests of junior doctors. Should they further compromise? The

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Secretary of State should be very clear. He has made a very clear

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offered to the doctors directly and they need to act on that. Take it

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all leave it. Now yesterday, the former

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Labour Leader, Neil Kinnock, gave an interview in which he warned

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the current Labour Leader, Jeremy Corbyn, that British voters would

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not back a party that supported Lord Kinnock said his party must

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confront the "reality" that it will not win a general election with a

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defence policy opposing the renewal But only hours after he issued his

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warning, Scottish Labour MSPs voted with Nicola Sturgeon's Nationalists

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at Holyrood for a motion calling Now, Jeremy, do you actually support

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what Lord Kinnock was saying? The reality is the British public will

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not vote for a party that supports unilateral nuclear disarmament. Any

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government, which is perceived to put national-security at risk, there

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is no doubt. I know fast lane very well. The instinct of the British

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people is that they want to be guaranteed they have strong national

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defences and the capacity to intervene globally where

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appropriate. The first thing is, we must in -- unequivocally be on the

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side of the British people. To be frank, we must learn the lessons

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from history that if we sound like we're anti-defence, the British

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people will never support the Labour Party. So, Jeremy Corbyn is wrong?

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You can have an intelligent debate about how you might make bold moves

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as part of a multilateral strategy. Sometimes the debate gets

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polarised. I do a unilateralist or a multilateralist? Do I want to see a

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nuclear free world? Yes, without hesitation. We must not send the

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message that somehow we're anti-defence. We never have been and

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we never will be. What message is Labour sending? MSPs in Scotland

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voted with nationalists to scrap Trident. Its leader supports the

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renewal of Trident. The vast majority of Labour MS -- MSPs

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supported but the leader does not. There is a lively debate going on.

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There is no doubt about that. What is quite interesting is, in my

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dealings with the Armed Forces over the years, within the Armed Forces,

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there were different views in relation to the nuclear deterrent. I

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have not got a problem about a sensible debate about how you might

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take some bold steps here nationally to achieve that international

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objective. Let's have that debate at the next stages. Coming back to

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that, do not ever send the message that somehow we do not take

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seriously the national security of the people of Britain. Today in the

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police debate, will be arguing exactly that. Some people are saying

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you are sending a message. When do you have that debate? The Shadow

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Defence Secretary wants to push this decision out of the way. There is a

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gateway decision coming in the next 12-18 months, when will you have

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that debate? The key period will be the next 12 months. Maria Eagle is

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heading up a debate. We need to have that debate in an open and honest

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way. It does not send the wrong message. Labour is a party of safety

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and security and strong defence. It is extraordinary. You have Labour

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leadership normally crating people in Scotland. Or to getting rid of

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Trident -- supporting and getting rid of Trident. The Labour

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leadership wants to scrap Trident. We, in the leadership debate, say

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the grass roots movement may have a very different view to the PLP. With

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the greatest respect to Teresa, I have a great deal of respect for

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her. Within your party, first of all, you are the Government that has

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presided over very significant cuts to our Armed Forces but also

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presided over the biggest cut in Europe to our police service, which

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is putting at risk safety and security where people live and

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work. I am not sure I will take any lessons from the Tories about

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safeguarding national security. You are pointing out cuts to

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conventional full SIS. Can Labour send out a message to the British

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public that it supports defence, is rock-solid behind defence, but can

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do so without the nuclear deterrent? We need to have the debate about how

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we can make bold steps to achieve this. How we might take some bold

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steps to achieve this. It comes back to the fundamental point, which is,

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we will never, ever, put at risk the national-security of the British

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people. Jeremy Corbyn also mentioned there are problems about having a

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vote on the problems in Syria. He said on television that perhaps

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Labour needs to revisit taking action over Isis. Mistakes were made

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in Iraq. No doubt about that. I am open-minded in terms of military

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intervention in Syria. All I would say is it has to be part of a wider

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package will stop you cannot stand by and see terrible things happening

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on the 1 hand. On the other hand, to believe you can resolve this simply

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by way of military force is to arrive at the wrong conclusion.

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Thank you. What do you think about the renewal of Trident? Do you back

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it? At the next stages, the debate will be having, what place does

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Trident play in defence policies? I have given my answer.

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Now, free from the compromises of coalition with the

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Liberal Democrats, and in power with the first Conservative majority

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government in nearly two decades, the job of Prime Minister should

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have got a whole lot easier for David Cameron after

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Well, it hasn't quite worked out that way.

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Yes, Jo, when David Cameron won an unexpected majority of 12 at the

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election he might have thought that governing was going to get easier.

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But the joys of spring have turned into a gloomy

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autumn for the PM as Conservative MPs get a taste for rebellion.

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20 Tory MPs - amongst them Tim Loughton and Jacob Rees-Mogg -

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backed a Labour motion demanding changes to the Government's plans to

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Then in the Commons on Monday, Zac Goldsmith, Tory candidate for London

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spoke out against the government's plans to extend right-to-buy.

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And that evening it was reported that Downing Street had dropped

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plans for a Commons vote on intervention in Syria, with up to

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30 Tory MPs said to be lining up to vote against the Government.

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Today sees the publication of the Investigatory Powers Bill,

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which we will talk about, with David Davis has been at the forefront of a

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rebels demanding the Government make concessions.

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While Lord Strathclyde has begun his tricky task

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of reviewing the powers of the House of Lords, after peers rejected

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With all of that even before the Cabinet has started to argue about

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the UK's membership of the European Mac, this could get potentially dark

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of the Prime Minister. The Investigatory Powers Bill has

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been published today and it looks as if judges will be granted the right

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to administer and anti-terrorism operations. I'm not going to

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pre-empt what the Prime Minister will say in half an hour. There have

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been three reviews. The need was felt that the executive to be

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heavily involved in the authorisation of warrants, while

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other reviews have suggested that authorisation of warrants, while

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judicial oversight is needed. Do you agree with the need for judicial

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oversight, authorisation? Ultimately the panellist and the Home Secretary

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are accountable to the the panellist and the Home Secretary

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need to ensure the panellist and the Home Secretary

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the most intrusive powers the has come all operate in a legal

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framework has come all operate in a legal

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Secretary will talk about that has come all operate in a legal

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later. Just to be has come all operate in a legal

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think that on the important crucial decisions, it should be a judge that

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makes this decisions, it should be a judge that

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the Home Secretary? I don't want to pre-empt anything. There have

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the Home Secretary? I don't want to disagreements in your party over

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this and David Davis claims it is could go if the bill is to pass. I

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believe the panellist and Home Secretary have been looking

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carefully at Secretary have been looking

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hasn't been thought of overnight and she will present

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hasn't been thought of overnight and of Commons shortly. There has been

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hasn't been thought of overnight and huge listening exercises. It is

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absolutely clear that are premised and the Home Secretary others

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responsible for keeping the country safe, not the judges. That sounds

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like you would be happy for it to remain in the hands of the Home

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Secretary. If it does not and there is not clear judicial authorisation,

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will the bill for? That is likely and it would be a tragedy in terms

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of the safety and security of British people. And don't you come

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in part. -- down to you, in part. We support the strong powers of the

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security services, 20% is counterterrorism and 8% is charged

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sexual exploitation and abuse, paedophile gangs, fraud and grooming

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online. We need enhanced powers, yes, but those powers need proper

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judicial safeguards. So you will vote it down if you do not get those

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judicial safeguards which means you will lose all of it. I think the

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House of Commons is likely to reach a consensus on this in the next

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stages. Because we are at one in rising to the threat posed to the

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people we represents the government must learn from the sorry lessons of

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history that the people of Britain want safety and security but they

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will not trust government to exercise those powers. External

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scrutiny is key. Do you accept David Davis's point that it will not get

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through without that scrutiny because other Tory rebels will not

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say yes to it. To be honest I have not paid attention to what David

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Davis says on this matter, what I am conscious of is that the government

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has been looking carefully at the different powers, I think it does

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want to move ahead with the consensus so that we get to this

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place where we are doing things that will protect the body public. That

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is one the potential rebellion and has been outlined clearly. We have

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had the rebellion on tax credits. Syria is looking like a potential

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problem, we were told they would be a vote on air strikes if there was a

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genuine consensus. It is clear he cannot get one and that is why we

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aren't getting the vote. The government is again trying to which

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a broad consensus, the events of summer 2013 were striking in the

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House of Commons and it is interesting that a group of Labour

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MPs had debate earlier in this Parliament, and seemed keen that we

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should do more in this field. But it is right that the Prime Minister

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should want to get cross-party support for this. Broad support. It

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isn't just Labour, the Daily Telegraph is talking about 20 - 30%

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Tory rebels who are not happy. We have had the report from the

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Conservative select committee. The Prime Minister's language says he

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wants to vote and he hasn't got the support. This shouldn't come down to

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Conservative versus labour. These are serious matters for the nation

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to address. I think the approach is right. There's no point in coming to

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the House without that consensus and I am sure that the premised and the

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Home Secretary will continue to work to achieve that. Will it still be a

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priority to work for this vote? Tackling Syria is a priority, it's

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leading to a man or human tragedy, with the migrant situation, my word,

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we need to tackle the refugee situation. In 2013I was content to

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vote for additional military intervention. Events keep evolving

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but fundamentally the Prime Minister has been clear, we need to resolve

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this situation and it is not having a future for Assad or indeed for

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Isil. When do you think that food should be? -- that vote? I don't

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know but it needs to be when the majority of British parliamentarians

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are ready to say yes. Looking at the refugee situation and the ongoing

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tragedies in Syria, we need to take decisive action. How would you vote?

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I could not in conscious roll out military intervention because if you

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look at the desperate circumstances in Syria that might be appropriate

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-- I could not rule it out. Yet it needs to be part of a wider

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diplomatic solution under the auspices of the UN. I voted against

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in 2013 because it was simply a military initiative. The military

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initiative alone won't solve the problem. On the other hand, if the

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government comes with a size of case, seeking to achieve consensus

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with other countries in the region engaged in finding the solution and

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says that one element that might be safe havens, we should look at that

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with an open mind. But and cannot get consensus, because of the

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leadership, they would not be reliant on the leadership of the

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backbench MPs. It won't get consensus if they say are you for or

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against military intervention. I think the House should say, what

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part should military intervention play in an attempt to find a lasting

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solution. And the Prime Minister has not said, I need every MP to be with

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me on this. There will always be people who oppose military

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intervention come what may, as they do on other matters. Let's not try

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to isolate this again into being something partisan. Finally on the

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mood of backbenchers, presumably you interact with them regularly, what's

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the mood. So many of the new ones seem willing to flex their muscles

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and cause trouble for the government. The mood is largely

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positive, we won an election. One topic that often came up in the past

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was Europe and yet the party is united behind having that referendum

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in 2017. Some people, come what may, will want to leave the EU. It is a

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respectable position to take in that regard but I think the majority of

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people are happy to stay in a reformed European Union. Ultimately

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the British people will decide. They will indeed.

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Now every so often a museum fails to grab a masterpiece

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Over to the V, who have come in for a lot

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of stick over their refusal to show a collection of Margaret Thatcher's

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Who wouldn't like a peep inside one of Maggie's bags?

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I hope your rhyming slang is working! Conservative MPs

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are said to be outraged by the museum's decision

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and have called for the collection to be saved.

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Imagine our surprise when the V called our office, demanding, no

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It's coming up to midday here - just take a look at Big Ben -

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Yes, Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.

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And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here.

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Back from gallivanting. In the last ten days I have been to regulate and

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Berlin because now the government is really starting to try to appear,

:27:18.:27:23.

and also to try generally need to push ahead with renegotiations and

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our relationship with the EU -- I've been to Iceland. Last week David

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Cameron pressed the flesh with Nordic leaders in Iceland and

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yesterday we were with George was born in birding with his

:27:37.:27:40.

counterpart, the German finance minister, -- George Osborne was in

:27:41.:27:44.

Berlin. An important person in German politics. They were pushing

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forward the agenda. Angela Merkel says she will do everything she can.

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What that means in practice is more difficult to predict. Indeed it is.

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But the Treasury were delighted and taken aback by just how fulsome she

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was in her promise of help. I think there are some things that clearly

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we know now that are going to be relatively easy for the government

:28:09.:28:12.

to get. Getting rid of ever closer union, for example. A lot of senior

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figures in Europe are on the record union, for example. A lot of senior

:28:15.:28:18.

as saying, that is OK, we'll union, for example. A lot of senior

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to clarify that. union, for example. A lot of senior

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is concerned the tricky thing union, for example. A lot of senior

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be this idea of union, for example. A lot of senior

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that they can't put their own interests and of the pound. That

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will be complicated for Germany in terms of people we spoke to why we

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were there. In terms of people we spoke to why we

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wholesale change, things where the public will think, yes, the British

:28:41.:28:44.

governor has won a big concession, does that look likely at this stage?

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Not at this stage but this is clearly where the government want to

:28:51.:28:52.

take the debate. They've had research done, showing that people

:28:53.:29:01.

are in the middle on this. There are 10% of people on either side who

:29:02.:29:05.

would fight to the death to stay or leave, most people are in the middle

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and most people are not paying attention to the

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and most people are not paying really believe that

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and most people are not paying they will be able to

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and most people are not paying fighting around one issue or another

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but the fighting around one issue or another

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can tie in a ribbon and say, here are these miraculous concessions

:29:26.:29:30.

that we have won from the EU. Interesting that the traditional

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political tactic is to pick a fight and then you will look like you have

:29:33.:29:37.

one. They haven't got to that point but one

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one. They haven't got to that point government told me,

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one. They haven't got to that point it needs his crusade and we are

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happy to play along with that. We know that there are voices

:29:46.:29:47.

happy to play along with that. We Tory party who will not be happy,

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come what may. Looking at some of the big issues, what might be raised

:29:52.:29:55.

today at Prime Minister's Questions? There have

:29:56.:29:55.

today at Prime Minister's Questions? rebellions since the start.

:29:56.:30:01.

today at Prime Minister's Questions? certainly have. Bad mood is up. It

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is in the air. The House of Lords issue around tax credits -- the mood

:30:07.:30:12.

is up. The House of Lords issue has allowed some MPs to feel like

:30:13.:30:17.

rebelling despite being told that it is constitutional outrage. It has

:30:18.:30:20.

changed the mood of the session. People have come back post

:30:21.:30:24.

conference, the Tories had a smooth successful party conference... They

:30:25.:30:28.

feel that the Labour Party is not united and does not know its

:30:29.:30:36.

position. The Tories are certainly not united on the European Union.

:30:37.:30:40.

This is why some Tories worry about them not being a strong united

:30:41.:30:44.

opposition because that can make you feel complacent and you can get

:30:45.:30:48.

involved in your own twists and turns. What will Jeremy Corbyn talk

:30:49.:30:53.

about today. Potentially junior doctors, a very big issue for people

:30:54.:30:57.

around the country. The Department of Health is trying their hardest to

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that the BMA has captured the agenda on this in a slightly misleading way

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perhaps. I would not be surprised if Labour raise that today. Or perhaps

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the visit of the Egyptian leader, talking to David Cameron.

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Additionally given Jeremy Corbyn's interests in those issues, we heard

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him talk about Saudi Arabia before. How much pressure is Jeremy Hunt

:31:23.:31:27.

under? In the context of a spending review in three weeks' time, there

:31:28.:31:30.

is Jeremy Hunt under? In the context of the spending review in three

:31:31.:31:32.

weeks' time, there's no new extra money anywhere in government at the

:31:33.:31:35.

moment. I think what he is trying to do is stick to this. Make a deal

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work without promising any extra cash that he doesn't have. We have

:31:39.:31:44.

seen before, the NHS can very fast become very troublesome for the

:31:45.:31:47.

government. One of the stickiest moments for the coalition was the

:31:48.:31:52.

reform of the NHS under Andrew Lansley. Jeremy Hunt has come to an

:31:53.:31:57.

impasse with the medical profession. Right now it doesn't feel like the

:31:58.:32:01.

bits of government are thinking that he's made a mess and this is

:32:02.:32:07.

damaging him particularly... But... Ballot papers could go out today.

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Senior government figures believe there will be a strike. They are

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prepared to have that fight? There is no extra cash. Nowhere for them

:32:18.:32:21.

to go. This slight recalibration of the deal we've seen today is an

:32:22.:32:27.

attempt by Jeremy Hunt to get around the BMA and make this direct appeal

:32:28.:32:31.

to doctors. There is sense in government that there is small

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motivated group protesting against these changes but they might be able

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to I know the whole house will join me

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in paying tribute to those who have fallen serving our country. They

:32:52.:32:54.

gave their lives so we could live hours in freedom. It is right to

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reflect on Armistice Day and a contribution to all of those who

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have served our country. This morning I had meetings with

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ministerial colleagues and others and in addition to my duties in this

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House I shall have further meetings today. I would like to associate

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myself with the comments from the Prime Minister. I look forward to

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joining the Armistice Day parade in my constituency. It has grown to the

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largest in Britain. Speaking to constituents in Warwickshire, the

:33:28.:33:30.

Government commitment of 2% GDP spending was very welcome. Given

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volatile state of many parts of the world, it is more important than

:33:37.:33:39.

ever that we maintain that commitment and give rage chew

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support, resources and commitment available. -- give our brave troops.

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We live in an uncertain world. The 2% on defence spending and .7% on

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aid spending helping our security as well as making sure we are a

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generous and moral nation and having the ultimate insurance policy of a

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replacement for Trident submarines. Jeremy Corbyn... Thank you, Mr

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Speaker. I concur with the Prime Minister's marks concerning

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remembrance -- Sunday and remembrance weekend. We mourn all of

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those who die in all wars and resolved to build a peaceful future

:34:37.:34:40.

where the next generation does not suffer from billboards of past

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generations. Last week, I asked the Prime Minister the same question six

:34:46.:34:49.

times and he could not answer. He has had the week to think about it.

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I want to ask him one more time... Can he guarantee that next April

:34:56.:35:00.

nobody is going to be worse off as a result of cuts to working tax

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credits? Let me be absolutely clear with the honourable gentleman. What

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I can guarantee next April as there will be an 11,000 passenger

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allowance, so you can earn 11,000 before paying tax. There will be a

:35:20.:35:25.

national living wage of ?7 20, giving the lowest paid in our

:35:26.:35:31.

country a ?20 pay rise. On the issue of tax credits, we suffered the

:35:32.:35:35.

defeat in the House of Lords. We suffered the defeat in the House of

:35:36.:35:39.

Lords. With new proposals in the Autumn Statement. At that point, in

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exactly three weeks' time, I will be able to answer his question. Now, if

:35:44.:35:48.

he wants to spend the next five questions asking it all over again,

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I am sure he will find it is very entertaining and interesting. How it

:35:58.:35:59.

fits with the new politics, I am not quite sure. Over to you. This is not

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about entertainment. This is about...

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This is not funny for people who are desperately worried about what is

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going to happen next April. If the Prime Minister will not listen to

:36:21.:36:23.

the questions I put, will not listen to the questions that are put by the

:36:24.:36:31.

public, then perhaps the Prime Minister will listen to a question

:36:32.:36:35.

that was raised by his honourable friend, the member for Brigg and

:36:36.:36:41.

Goole, who last week concerning tax credit changes said, the changes

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cannot go ahead next April and that any mitigation should be for

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mitigation. What is the Prime Minister's answer to his friend?

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Very much the same answer that I gave to him. In three weeks' time,

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we will announce our proposals and he will be able to see what we will

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do to deliver the high pay, low tax, lower welfare economy we want to

:37:11.:37:14.

see. That is what we need in our country. We are cutting taxes and

:37:15.:37:18.

increasing pay but we also believe it is right to reform welfare. He

:37:19.:37:23.

will have his answer in three weeks' time. Meantime, he had to think

:37:24.:37:28.

about this but if we do not reform welfare, how will we find the police

:37:29.:37:32.

service we are talking about today? How will we find the health service

:37:33.:37:38.

we could be talking about today? How will we paid for the defence forces

:37:39.:37:44.

we are talking about today? The honourable gentleman has been

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consistent. He has opposed every reform to welfare that has ever come

:37:49.:37:52.

forward. If we listened to him, we would still have families in London

:37:53.:37:57.

getting ?100,000 a year in housing benefit. The answer to the question

:37:58.:38:01.

is, you will find out in three weeks' time. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

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The reality is that the Prime Minister makes choices and he has

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made a choice concerning working tax credits that has not worked very

:38:14.:38:17.

well so far. But he must be aware... I give an example. A

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serving soldier, a private in the Army with two children and a partner

:38:23.:38:27.

would lose over ?2000 next April. I asked the question...

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The questions will be heard. And the answers will be heard. Simple as

:38:40.:38:51.

that. Mr Jeremy Corbyn... Thank you, Mr Speaker. Surely that is the whole

:38:52.:38:54.

point of our parliament, that we're able to put questions to those

:38:55.:39:03.

authority. And so, I have a question... I have a question from

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Kieron, a veteran of the first Gulf War. His family are set to lose out.

:39:13.:39:17.

He rides it is a worry for the family. There is fear and

:39:18.:39:20.

trepidation about whether we will be able to get by. Is this how the

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Government complete -- treats veterans of the armed services? Let

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me take the case of the serving soldier. Many soldiers, indeed all

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soldiers, will benefit from the ?11,000 personal allowance that

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comes in next year. That means they will be able to earn more money

:39:39.:39:42.

before they even start to pay taxes. Serving soldiers with

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children will benefit from the 30 hours of childcare. Of course,

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serving soldiers and others will be able to see our proposals on tax

:39:51.:39:54.

credits in exactly three weeks' time. What I would say to the

:39:55.:40:04.

serving soldier is that he is now dealing with an opposition party,

:40:05.:40:07.

the leader of which, said he could not see any use for UK forces

:40:08.:40:09.

anywhere in the world at any time. That serving soldier would not have

:40:10.:40:12.

a job if the honourable gentleman got anywhere near power.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can I invite the Prime Minister to cast his mind

:40:22.:40:30.

to another area of public service that is causing acute concern at the

:40:31.:40:36.

present time? I know he is trying to dig himself out of the hole with the

:40:37.:40:40.

junior doctors offer this morning which you await the detail. There is

:40:41.:40:47.

a question I want to put to him. I quote Doctor Cliff man, the

:40:48.:40:52.

president of the Royal College of emergency medicine. He said that

:40:53.:40:56.

this winter will be worse than last winter. Last winter was the worst

:40:57.:41:02.

winter we have ever had in the NHS. Can the Prime Minister guarantee

:41:03.:41:06.

there will be no winter crisis in the NHS this year? First of all,

:41:07.:41:15.

when it comes to the Royal College of emergency medicine, they actually

:41:16.:41:19.

support what we are saying about a seven-day NHS and the junior doctors

:41:20.:41:23.

contract. He says, wait for the detail. I would urge anyone in this

:41:24.:41:27.

House and detail. I would urge anyone in this

:41:28.:41:30.

watching to go on to detail. I would urge anyone in this

:41:31.:41:33.

of Health website and look at the pay calculator. You will be able to

:41:34.:41:36.

see that no 1 working legal hours will lose out in any way at all. It

:41:37.:41:47.

is an 11% basic pay rise. Deliver is the stronger and safer NHS. As for

:41:48.:41:50.

the state of our NHS more generally, it is benefiting from ?10 billion

:41:51.:41:51.

that we put in it is benefiting from ?10 billion

:41:52.:41:56.

Labour Party at last election said they did not support. I believe the

:41:57.:41:58.

NHS has the resources they did not support. I believe the

:41:59.:42:03.

needs. That is why we are seeing it treating more patients with more

:42:04.:42:07.

needs. That is why we are seeing it delivered, more tests being carried

:42:08.:42:11.

out. It is a much stronger NHS and the reason is simple. We have a

:42:12.:42:15.

strong economy supporting our strong NHS. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

:42:16.:42:23.

strong economy supporting our strong that the Prime Minister has not

:42:24.:42:24.

offered any comment whatsoever that the Prime Minister has not

:42:25.:42:29.

the Windsor crisis -- the winter crisis of last year and what will

:42:30.:42:31.

happen this year. Mr Speaker... Order, order! The

:42:32.:42:55.

leader of the position is entitled to ask questions without a barrage

:42:56.:43:00.

of noise. The Prime Minister is entitled to answer questions without

:43:01.:43:05.

a barrage of noise. That is what the public is entitled to expect. Mr

:43:06.:43:12.

Jeremy Corbyn... If the Prime Minister will not answer questions

:43:13.:43:17.

that I'd put, then I quote to him, the renowned King's Fund, which has

:43:18.:43:22.

enormous expertise in NHS funding and NHS Administration, and I quote,

:43:23.:43:28.

the national health service cannot continue to maintain standards of

:43:29.:43:33.

care and balance the books. A rapid and serious decline in patient care

:43:34.:43:36.

is inevitable unless something is done. Could I ask the Prime

:43:37.:43:42.

Minister, which is rising faster? NHS waiting lists or NHS deficits?

:43:43.:43:49.

Let me deal directly with the Kings fund. What we have done on this side

:43:50.:43:53.

of the house is the point in new chief executive to the NHS, Mr Simon

:43:54.:43:58.

Stephens where he worked under the last Labour government and did a

:43:59.:44:01.

very good job for them. He produced the Stevens plan which he said

:44:02.:44:05.

required ?8 billion of government funding. We are putting in ?10

:44:06.:44:09.

billion behind that plan. That is the plan we are producing. The

:44:10.:44:16.

results you can see, we have 1.3 million more operations, 7.8 million

:44:17.:44:20.

more outpatient appointments and 4.7 million more diagnostic tests. What

:44:21.:44:25.

is going up in the NHS is a number of treatments, the number of

:44:26.:44:27.

successful outcomes. He wants to know who is heading for a winter

:44:28.:44:32.

crisis. I would predict it is the Labour Party that is heading for a

:44:33.:44:37.

winter crisis. Look at his appointments! His media adviser is a

:44:38.:44:43.

Stalinist. His new policy advisor is a Trotskyist and his economic

:44:44.:44:47.

adviser is a Communist was the busiest trying to move the Labour

:44:48.:44:52.

Party to the left, I give him full marks. -- a Communist. If he is

:44:53.:44:57.

trying to move the Labour Party to the left, I give him full marks. Mr

:44:58.:45:04.

Speaker, the issue I raised with the Prime Minister was the national

:45:05.:45:08.

health service. In case he had forgotten. I would like to remind

:45:09.:45:13.

him that since he took office in 2010, the English waiting list is up

:45:14.:45:22.

by a third. There are now 3.5 million people, 3.5 million people

:45:23.:45:29.

waiting for treatment in the NHS. If his party cannot match its actions

:45:30.:45:33.

by its words, then I put this to him. Will he just get rid? The NHS

:45:34.:45:41.

is in a problem. It is in a problem of deficit in many hospitals, a

:45:42.:45:46.

problem of waiting lists, a problem of the financial crisis that has

:45:47.:45:50.

been faced with so many others. Can he now addressed that issue and

:45:51.:45:55.

ensure that everyone in this country can rely on the NHS which is surely

:45:56.:45:58.

the jewel in all of our crowns? Since I became premise, let me tell

:45:59.:46:11.

him what has happened since then. The number of doctors up by 10,500,

:46:12.:46:19.

the number of nurses up by 5800, fewer patients waiting to start

:46:20.:46:25.

treatment than under Labour, we have seen mixed sex wards virtually

:46:26.:46:30.

abolished and seen rates of hospital infection plummet. It's happened for

:46:31.:46:35.

a reason. Because we've had a strong economy and some of the strongest

:46:36.:46:39.

growth anywhere in the world, because we have unemployment

:46:40.:46:43.

falling, inflation on the floor, we are able to fund an NHS whereas the

:46:44.:46:48.

countries that he admires all over the world with their crazy socialist

:46:49.:46:52.

plans cut their health service and that the people who need their help

:46:53.:46:59.

the most! -- they hurt the people who need their help the most. The

:47:00.:47:07.

UK's Internet economy is much the largest of the T20 nations at 12.4%

:47:08.:47:14.

of GDP but as consumers move online soda criminals. Does the Prime

:47:15.:47:18.

Minister agree that the Investigatory Powers Bill must give

:47:19.:47:21.

our security services the powers they need to keep us safe, whilst

:47:22.:47:26.

ensuring that proper controls exist on how we use those powers? My

:47:27.:47:31.

honourable friend is absolutely right to raise this. It is one of

:47:32.:47:35.

the most important bills that this House were discussed. It is going

:47:36.:47:40.

through pre-legislative scrutiny. The Home Secretary today will set

:47:41.:47:43.

out very clearly what this bill is about and why it is necessary. Let

:47:44.:47:49.

me make one some ballpoint. Communications data, the who called

:47:50.:47:54.

who and when of Telecom allegations has been absolutely vital in

:47:55.:47:58.

catching rapists, child abductors and solving other crimes. The

:47:59.:48:02.

question before us is, do we need that data when people are using

:48:03.:48:15.

social media to commit those crimes rather than a mobile phone. My

:48:16.:48:18.

answer is yes, we must help the police and our security and

:48:19.:48:20.

intelligence services to keep us safe. Mr Angus Robertson. Think you,

:48:21.:48:24.

Mr Speaker. This week when remember all the sacrifices from past and

:48:25.:48:29.

present conflicts and show respect to veterans and service families.

:48:30.:48:33.

Does the Prime Minister agree that everything must be done to deliver

:48:34.:48:36.

on the military covenant, of the spirit and the letter? I agree with

:48:37.:48:45.

both parts of the question, these remembrance services are important

:48:46.:48:48.

up and down the country and the military covenant is one of the most

:48:49.:48:51.

important things we have where we make a promise to our military that

:48:52.:48:55.

because of the sacrifices they make on our behalf, they should not have

:48:56.:48:59.

less good treatment than other good people in this country, and indeed

:49:00.:49:03.

where we can we should provide extra support. This is the first

:49:04.:49:06.

government to put the military government properly into law --

:49:07.:49:12.

military covenant and every year to improve it whether by hospital

:49:13.:49:16.

treatment, free transport, council tax discount, and so many other

:49:17.:49:22.

things, and we report on it every. Mr Angus Robertson. Is the Prime

:49:23.:49:26.

Minister aware that many service widows continue to be deprived of

:49:27.:49:31.

their forces pensions if there is a change in their personal

:49:32.:49:34.

circumstances? Does he agree that this is a clear breach in the spirit

:49:35.:49:38.

of the military covenant and what will he do to rectify this wrong? We

:49:39.:49:45.

made a big change, last, I think, around Armistice Day, to make sure

:49:46.:49:49.

that many people to Schmeichel last year, to make sure that people who

:49:50.:49:53.

had remarried could get pensions. The big step forward welcomed by

:49:54.:49:58.

British Legion. If we need to take further steps I am very happy to

:49:59.:50:02.

look at them and see what be done. I remember that in the last budget we

:50:03.:50:07.

looked at the case of police widows and tried to put right their

:50:08.:50:11.

situation as well. Doctor James Davis. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Will a

:50:12.:50:20.

Prime Minister joined me in congratulating Prestatyn, which is a

:50:21.:50:24.

finalist in the great British high street awards? And will he confirm

:50:25.:50:29.

whether the UK's government will hold discussions with the Welsh

:50:30.:50:35.

assembly have and which is about the division of business rates councils

:50:36.:50:39.

to Wales so that other times in my constituency have a better

:50:40.:50:43.

opportunity to regenerate? -- other towns. I do join him in

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congratulating Prestatyn. I don't know if it is in the same category

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as my hometown of Chipping Norton which has also been nominated so I

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might have a conflict of interest. What I would say is, in Wales,

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business rates is a devolved issue but it's open to the Welsh

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government, should they choose to take our approach of devolving that

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business rate income directly to local councils so that local

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councils have a better connection local councils so that local

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between the money they raise and the decisions they make to attract

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business investment and industry to their area. I went to Cheltenham

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ladies College and the Prime Minister went to Eton. Both schools

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which invest Minister went to Eton. Both schools

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teaching and facilities for music, dance, arts and drama. Yet while

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he's been Prime Minister, the schools which educate 92% of our

:51:39.:51:44.

pupils have cut teachers in those subjects. Will his legacy be that

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Britain stopped being a world leader in creative and cultural industries

:51:49.:51:55.

and becomes an also-ran? I do not accept that. And if you look at

:51:56.:51:59.

school funding, it has been protected under this government

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school funding, it has been we want to continue protecting it.

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What I will make no apology for is the clear focus we have on getting

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the basics right in schools. It's absolutely essential that we get

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more children learning the basic subjects and getting basic

:52:19.:52:18.

qualifications. And then subjects and getting basic

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that it is more possible to put in place the arts, dance and drama that

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I want my children to have as they go to their schools. Damian Collins.

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The Channel Tunnel and the Port of Dover are major pieces of lateral

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infrastructure but when there are disruptions to services it causes

:52:38.:52:41.

chaos on the roads of Kent. As the government computers work on the

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spending review will the Prime Minister gives special consideration

:52:45.:52:49.

to the need for an urgent long-term solution to Operation Stack? I

:52:50.:52:53.

absolutely recognise the serious problems caused to Kent residents

:52:54.:52:57.

and businesses when it was necessary to put into place Operation Stack.

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We've ready and permitted short-term measures to reduce the impact

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including the temporary availability of one every and is contingency

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measure. I know he met with the Chancellor and other Kent MPs and

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we're happy to build on this work. I understand the pressures and we will

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do all we to relieve them. May I associate myself with the

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do all we to relieve them. May I the Prime Minister made about what

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will happen this weekend and also his comments he made to the leader

:53:24.:53:25.

of the SNP. God his comments he made to the leader

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about the fact that thousands of his comments he made to the leader

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people who served in the royal navy before 1987 are not entitled to full

:53:36.:53:39.

compensation, this means that people who have been exposed to disease

:53:40.:53:46.

stand to lose out massively compared with people in civilian life to the

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extent that some idiot who's been exposed in industry could get

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?150,000 in compensation, and it is probable that a service person will

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only get ?31,000. This is clearly a moral outrage as well as being in

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breach... moral outrage as well as being in

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honourable gentleman for raising this issue. I understand the Defence

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Secretary is looking at it. Since putting in place the military

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covenant with tried every year to make progress, whether to do with

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widows or with different groups disadvantaged in some way. I am

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happy to look at the points he makes. Thank you, Mr Speaker. At the

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Royal Society, they've identified the need for 1 million scientists,

:54:37.:54:41.

engineers and technical professionals by 2020. One way to

:54:42.:54:46.

bridge the skills grab is an increase in

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bridge the skills grab is an apprenticeships like the ones in

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Basildon. -- the skills gap. Yet for every one place available 20 people

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apply. Will my right honourable friend redouble his efforts to meet

:54:57.:55:02.

our commitment to 2 million new apprenticeships? This target is

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essential and I believe we can achieve it. Going back to questions

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from the Honourable member for Slough one way will achieve it is by

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making sure that more young people have the qualifications necessary to

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apply for an apprenticeship will stop many firms find that a lot of

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people apply but when you look at the people who don't have a

:55:22.:55:25.

qualification in English and maths and becomes down. I'm delighted to

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announce that in terms of advice and apprenticeships, to make sure we

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work with businesses to get this target, the Right Honourable member

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for structure and maven is going to take the place of the Right

:55:39.:55:41.

Honourable member for Watford who is moved on to other things -- the

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Right Honourable member for Stratford-upon-Avon. He is going to

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help me make sure we deliver on this. My constituents in Blackpool

:55:50.:55:54.

face a 11 me on police cuts from the spending review and the new Home

:55:55.:56:00.

Office formula which tops ?45 million of Lancashire Police. I ask

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him whether a cross-party letter from the MPs of like a ship, one

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from my neighbourhood watch group, one from other commissions, mostly

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Tories, and the Chief Constable, all saying that the process is flawed,

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how many blue lights must he have before we had meltdown? Let me say,

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the reforms to the police funding formula is a consultation on which

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no decisions have been taken. Mayo congratulate the luxuries to him

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because crime is down in Blackpool by 5% -- May I congratulate the like

:56:34.:56:38.

should police. Funding for the Lancashire Police is the same in

:56:39.:56:47.

cash terms as 2003. Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary found

:56:48.:56:50.

that Lancashire Constabulary is exceptionally well prepared to face

:56:51.:56:54.

its future financial requirements. That is the view of HMI sea. In a

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country where crime however you measure it has fallen significantly

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since this government took office. Annemarie Trevelyan. Thank you, Mr

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Speaker. My constituent, one of the UK's leading burns specialists went

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on Monday to Bucharest to help Romanian medical teams dealing with

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the nightclub fire. I understand that there are 150 patients in need

:57:21.:57:25.

of critical care and only 25 beds in big rest. She has asked if the Prime

:57:26.:57:30.

Minister will consider offering practical medical assistance to

:57:31.:57:34.

these victims by allowing the use of UK burns facilities for their

:57:35.:57:39.

treatment. I think my honourable friend is right to raise this tragic

:57:40.:57:43.

event that happened in big rest last Friday. All our thoughts are with

:57:44.:57:46.

the victims and their families. I'm pleased to hear about the visit of

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this doctor and herself was work. It's a very good suggestion to look

:57:51.:57:53.

that if we can offer specialist help and I will take it away and see what

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can be done. The Prime Minister will understand the heartbreak at the

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death of a child. For parents not to know what has happened to the ashes

:58:04.:58:09.

of that child, as is the case with Mike and Tina troll hill in Hull and

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other families around the country must be very cruel. Will the Prime

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Minister agree to meet Mike and Tina to discuss why we need national and

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local inquiry as to what happened in that case around baby ashes? Paige

:58:23.:58:28.

are completely understand how her constituents feel. This must have

:58:29.:58:31.

been an absolutely tragic event, made worse by not knowing what has

:58:32.:58:35.

happened to their child. I am very happy to arrange that meeting. I am

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not aware of this case. Let me look at it and see what I can do.

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I was delighted that the Chancellor chose our county city of York to

:58:47.:58:54.

launch the new national infrastructure commission. Could the

:58:55.:58:57.

Prime Minister confirm that this is the start of a new era where

:58:58.:59:00.

important investment decisions like roads and railways between the

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cities of the North will help to bring growth to our region? My

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friend Mike is right to raise this. People in Yorkshire have long felt

:59:12.:59:14.

that there has not been a fair in a deal in terms of transport funding

:59:15.:59:20.

on roads and rail. And I think that people can now see that ?13 billion

:59:21.:59:24.

is being spent on transport in the North as part of our plan to

:59:25.:59:28.

rebalance the British economy. We've committed more than 4.8 ?3 on road

:59:29.:59:34.

improvements and we are still improving the a 64, vital for York,

:59:35.:59:39.

and we will look at what more we can do to make sure this vital part of

:59:40.:59:42.

the economy has the transport links it needs. John Nicholson. Thank you,

:59:43.:59:50.

Mr Speaker, on the ninth these extreme state for culture media and

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sport told the select committee that there were no plans to sell Channel

:59:55.:00:01.

4. -- the Secretary of State said that. Can the Prime Minister confirm

:00:02.:00:04.

that that is the government 's position that there are no

:00:05.:00:10.

initiatives underway to privatise this important and much loved public

:00:11.:00:16.

institution. I'm a big fan of Channel 4, it was a great

:00:17.:00:21.

Conservative innovation. A combination of fully why slow and

:00:22.:00:23.

Margaret Thatcher that helped to bring Channel 4 to our screens. --

:00:24.:00:28.

Willie Whitelaw and Margaret Thatcher. I'm a big fan. I wanted to

:00:29.:00:33.

have a strong, secure future. I think it's right to look at all the

:00:34.:00:38.

options to see of private investment into the channel could help to

:00:39.:00:42.

safeguard and the future. Let's look at the options. Let's not our minds,

:00:43.:00:48.

like some on the opposition front bench, let's not close our minds,

:00:49.:00:52.

they think that private is bad and public is good. Let's have a proper

:00:53.:00:56.

look at how to make sure this great channel goes on being great for

:00:57.:01:04.

years to come. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Everyone who has had any

:01:05.:01:09.

contact with the adoption process will be familiar with the

:01:10.:01:13.

frustration that are necessary delays can cause to prospective

:01:14.:01:17.

parents. Would the Prime Minister take action to speed up the adoption

:01:18.:01:22.

process so that more children can be placed with the right families more

:01:23.:01:27.

quickly? Benchmark my friend Mike is right to raise this. We've seen a

:01:28.:01:32.

72% increase in the number of Jordan adopted and the waiting time on

:01:33.:01:38.

average has fallen by five months. -- children adopted. Toulon, yet if

:01:39.:01:43.

you look across the 150 councils responsible, 68 of them have no

:01:44.:01:48.

mechanisms for early placement, where you run fostering and adoption

:01:49.:01:50.

alongside each other. If we could introduce that, not least to our

:01:51.:01:56.

regional adoption agencies that will establish, many more children will

:01:57.:01:59.

get the warm and loving home we want for them. On Armistice Day will the

:02:00.:02:08.

prime ministers that thought for the 633 of our bravest and best who died

:02:09.:02:13.

as a result of two political mistakes. 179 in pursuit of

:02:14.:02:20.

non-existent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 454 who died

:02:21.:02:27.

in the Helmand province inclusion that promised that no shot will be

:02:28.:02:35.

fired. Will he rethink his own plan to order more of our brave soldiers

:02:36.:02:40.

to put their lives on the line in the chaos and confusion of a 4-sided

:02:41.:02:48.

civil war in Syria? I have great respect for the honourable gentleman

:02:49.:02:53.

but with great respect, on Armistice Day we should put aside political

:02:54.:02:57.

questions about conflicts and decisions made, and simply remember

:02:58.:03:02.

the men and women who put on a uniform, went and served and risked

:03:03.:03:06.

their lives on our behalf. Let's make Armistice Day about that, not

:03:07.:03:12.

about other questions. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The last week has been a

:03:13.:03:20.

very good one for Cornwall airport in Newquay with the scrapping of the

:03:21.:03:26.

development fee which was an additional tax on passages and a

:03:27.:03:30.

barrier to growth, the enactment of new air links that link Cornwall to

:03:31.:03:35.

mainland Europe, and the upgrading of the Gatwick limp with the support

:03:36.:03:41.

of the PSL. Will the Prime Minister join me in congratulating the team

:03:42.:03:45.

at Newquay airport for their work in supporting the Cornish economy? I am

:03:46.:03:51.

a huge fan of Newquay airport and a frequent user. The government made a

:03:52.:03:56.

series of promises about helping the airport to make sure that vital

:03:57.:03:59.

connectivity between Cornwall and the rest of the country and

:04:00.:04:03.

continental Europe is there and I am delighted it's so well. Norman Lamb.

:04:04.:04:10.

continental Europe is there and I am Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:04:11.:04:11.

his welcome... Order! I want to Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:04:12.:04:17.

share this question. Mr Lamb? Can I thank the Prime Minister for

:04:18.:04:22.

Mac can I thank the Prime Minister for his welcome for the campaign

:04:23.:04:24.

launched this for his welcome for the campaign

:04:25.:04:29.

from across society joined the Right Honourable

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from across society joined the Right Coldfield, Alistair Campbell, and

:04:33.:04:33.

me, in Coldfield, Alistair Campbell, and

:04:34.:04:36.

those suffering from mental ill-health. The truth is that those

:04:37.:04:38.

who ill-health. The truth is that those

:04:39.:04:41.

the same rights ill-health. The truth is that those

:04:42.:04:42.

as others enjoy in moral and economic case for ending

:04:43.:04:49.

overwhelming. Will the Prime moral and economic case for ending

:04:50.:04:52.

Minister do what it takes to make sure

:04:53.:04:56.

Minister do what it takes to make delivers the investment, the extra

:04:57.:05:02.

deliver genuine equality? Let me say to the honourable gentleman, who did

:05:03.:05:05.

a lot of work on this in the last Parliament, I very much welcome the

:05:06.:05:09.

campaign and what they want to achieve. We set out in the NHS

:05:10.:05:13.

Constitution parity between mental and physical health and we have

:05:14.:05:18.

taken steps towards that for example by introducing the first time

:05:19.:05:21.

waiting times and proper targets for talking therapies. There are now

:05:22.:05:25.

twice as many people undergoing those that abuse as there were five

:05:26.:05:27.

years ago. I those that abuse as there were five

:05:28.:05:30.

there is more to do in those that abuse as there were five

:05:31.:05:37.

committed to doing so. Andrew Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:38.:05:44.

from the gentleman from Norfolk Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:45.:05:47.

North, I want to emphasise that this Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:48.:05:50.

agree that there's now Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:51.:05:52.

opportunity to build on Mitchell. Following up the question

:05:53.:05:57.

widespread support across all parts of society, and end historic

:05:58.:06:03.

injustice between the treatment of mental health and the physical

:06:04.:06:09.

illness. My honourable friend is absolutely right. We are investing

:06:10.:06:13.

more in mental health than ever. We will spend in 11.4 billion in this

:06:14.:06:16.

financial year and will spend in 11.4 billion in this

:06:17.:06:21.

group to make sure real terms increases in their investment in

:06:22.:06:25.

mental health services so it can't be treated as the Cinderella service

:06:26.:06:29.

that has sometimes been the case in the past. If we do that, and also

:06:30.:06:34.

deal with some of the other issues like mental health patients being

:06:35.:06:38.

held in police cells, we can have a far better system for dealing with

:06:39.:06:47.

mental health in this country. Thank you Mr Speaker. After the

:06:48.:06:53.

announcement of job losses in Northern Ireland, one factor has

:06:54.:06:56.

been high energy costs, will the Prime Minister work with the

:06:57.:07:00.

Northern Ireland energy initiative to address these issues as a matter

:07:01.:07:04.

of urgency. For people who are currently in work in Northern

:07:05.:07:08.

Ireland and are very worried about the impact of cutting working tax

:07:09.:07:12.

credits. Given that the Prime Minister and the Chancellor are in

:07:13.:07:16.

the same mode and showing a surprising degree of flexibility

:07:17.:07:19.

across a range of issues recently will he refers the first of the

:07:20.:07:23.

policy and remove the threat against working families in Northern Ireland

:07:24.:07:29.

and across the country? First of all, on the issue of industries, if

:07:30.:07:34.

a company horrifies as part of the energy intensive industries, it will

:07:35.:07:43.

see a reduction in its bill,, and the second point I would make to

:07:44.:07:46.

Northern Ireland is that we have passed in this House historic

:07:47.:07:50.

legislation to allow Northern Ireland to set its own rate of

:07:51.:07:53.

corporation tax and the sooner we can put together all the elements of

:07:54.:07:57.

the Stormont has agreement, the sooner Northern Ireland will be able

:07:58.:08:01.

to take action to build a stronger private sector in Northern Ireland

:08:02.:08:04.

which is what I want to see. On the issue of tax credits, I give the

:08:05.:08:09.

same answer. He will know in three weeks. He also knows that people

:08:10.:08:12.

working in that business or in others will be able to an ?11,000

:08:13.:08:17.

before they pay taxes, get more help with childcare and have a higher

:08:18.:08:24.

wage. We will keep welfare costs under control so that we can build

:08:25.:08:27.

great public services. Prime Minister's Questions started

:08:28.:08:40.

late and ended even later. It ended on tax credits. A question from

:08:41.:08:44.

Nigel Dodds. Jeremy Corbyn kicked off with tax credits would he

:08:45.:08:48.

referred back to the fact he used his six questions last week on tax

:08:49.:08:52.

credits to then proceed again to try to pin down the Prime Minister on

:08:53.:08:55.

whether anyone would be worse off as a result of the tax credit changes.

:08:56.:09:00.

That followed rebellion and defeat in the House of Lords. The first

:09:01.:09:04.

three questions on that issue. Jeremy Corbyn moved on to junior

:09:05.:09:12.

doctors before then trying to test the Government record on health with

:09:13.:09:15.

his final two questions. It was a slightly awkward and uncomfortable

:09:16.:09:20.

start to Prime Minister's Questions. There was a lot of barracking to

:09:21.:09:24.

Jeremy Corbyn, who just talking before continuing on. The Prime

:09:25.:09:28.

Minister responded on the tax credit issue with, you will have to wait

:09:29.:09:31.

and see. We have the Autumn Statement and the spending review

:09:32.:09:34.

coming up in a few weeks' time. That is where we will find out whether

:09:35.:09:38.

there will be money splashed out to try to mitigate some of the changes

:09:39.:09:42.

to tax credits. Another change in tactics from Jeremy Corbyn was

:09:43.:09:47.

instead of quoting members of the public, he used experts. The Kings

:09:48.:09:55.

fund, a medical expert, to try to put the Prime Minister under

:09:56.:09:59.

pressure. The Prime Minister did not feel as much under pressure this

:10:00.:10:03.

week as he did last week. There were a couple of questions, one from

:10:04.:10:07.

Angus Robertson on the military covenant about whether the Prime

:10:08.:10:11.

Minister and government are committed to that in spirit. One or

:10:12.:10:15.

two questions at the end from Norman Lamb, a Liberal Democrat, and Andrew

:10:16.:10:20.

Mitchell, the Conservative MP. It was about mental health. This was

:10:21.:10:55.

the weakest performance. He looked like a typical politician trying to

:10:56.:11:09.

score Picking up on what you said about tactics, I have been watching

:11:10.:11:14.

PMQs. I am fed up with the shouting and heckling on the backbench side.

:11:15.:11:20.

Isn't it time the cameras turned on the offenders? It might make them

:11:21.:11:26.

behave much better. Ed Miliband used to try to ride through the barrage

:11:27.:11:30.

of it stops and it does have an effect. On the performance of Jeremy

:11:31.:11:35.

Corbyn with the change in tone and tactic, especially health. It felt a

:11:36.:11:41.

little bit faltering. Some of the ways in which he asked the

:11:42.:11:46.

questions, particularly on the NHS. These are important issues. Not

:11:47.:11:50.

necessarily that focus. We know over the years, we watch PMQs, the way

:11:51.:11:54.

you make progress on the way you punch through the political defences

:11:55.:12:02.

of the Prime Minister is by going specific and repeating specific

:12:03.:12:08.

questions and demands. You do not really get that far. It seemed like

:12:09.:12:17.

a strange PMQs. Neither of them were up for the dance today David Cameron

:12:18.:12:27.

said it is getting longer and longer. Part of the energy of these

:12:28.:12:35.

sessions is, you are on the clock, it is a deadline. It felt flabby.

:12:36.:12:40.

John Bercow is allowing lots of questions Jeremy Corbyn has an

:12:41.:12:45.

effective tactic of just stopping when the backbenches are getting

:12:46.:12:49.

incredibly rowdy. That does happen quite a lot of times and gives it a

:12:50.:12:53.

very different mood. Members of the public think it is quite right to do

:12:54.:12:58.

that. Let's move on to the spending review and the Autumn Statement. A

:12:59.:13:01.

lot of that was pushed to, let's see what happens in a few weeks' time.

:13:02.:13:06.

What can people expect? Three weeks today the Chancellor sets out a

:13:07.:13:10.

number of plans. It adds more flesh to the different investment

:13:11.:13:17.

programmes. Will he mitigate the tax credit changes? He said he will

:13:18.:13:20.

listen to concerns being raised and come back to it. We are committed to

:13:21.:13:25.

welfare spending by 12 William pounds and increasing wages and

:13:26.:13:30.

lowering taxes. What will happen with this? -- ?12 million. There

:13:31.:13:38.

will be some kind of mitigation. Worth remarking on a quite

:13:39.:13:41.

significant bus stop that is going on about it with the Chancellor

:13:42.:13:47.

trying to raid the budget of Iain Duncan-Smith's beloveds programme of

:13:48.:13:53.

universal credit. This is the huge, super programme of welfare which is

:13:54.:13:56.

supposed to take over from welfare payments. It has been said that the

:13:57.:14:00.

Chancellor is quite up nicking some of the cash, a couple of million

:14:01.:14:07.

through universal credits. A few sharp words. That would be a very

:14:08.:14:18.

problematic way. The comment made by David Cameron, he has voted against

:14:19.:14:21.

welfare changes. Any proposals where there is a huge amount of money

:14:22.:14:26.

spent which could be spent on other things, particularly non-protected

:14:27.:14:29.

departments. You'll agree you need to bring the cost of welfare down.

:14:30.:14:35.

What you will have is fewer people claiming housing benefit than we

:14:36.:14:40.

have at the moment. In the here and now, 82% of children in Addington

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are being brought up in families where tax credit is really matter to

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them. I think it is absolutely wrong he has made this move. It does not

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surprise me there has been a reaction to it against the political

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-- across the political spectrum. Another issue that PMQs today, the

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Prime Minister brushed aside the concerns being expressed by Gordon

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Marsden over the police. Not true that violent crime is falling,

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sexual crime and suchlike is up. Just two weeks ago, what was

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reported on was there would be 5 million crimes of fraud online and

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cyber crime. You would see statistics showing a 40% increase

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will stop most important of all, if you cut 17,000 police officers and a

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further 22,000 police officers, it will put the public at risk. When

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you went to the people of your constituency in Suffolk, back in

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May, did you say, vote for me and I will cut 22,000 police officers? I

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will tell you what I said. I will stand on a platform to balance the

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books we start to pay down the debt that Labour ballooned when they were

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in office was the public has the second lowest funding per head with

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police. 29 forces at the moment will benefit. 13 will reduce the debt has

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led to changes that Suffolk police and others have responded. It makes

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common sense for fire stations and police stations to be one building,

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not separate. It has not been done. The problem generally is the low

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hanging fruit has gone. Where will it come from? All of the back

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office, the tax avoidance, surely it went in the first five years of the

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Coalition Government? That has been taken into account. Where will it

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go? You will have seen a change with police and crime commissioners. They

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bring in ideas without affecting the operation. Those low hanging fruit

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are quite difficult and have not been done.

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a chorus of voices have said simply this, from London to Lancashire,

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chief constables are saying that we can no longer guaranteed public

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safety of the government proceeds with cuts on this scale.

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Non-protected departments are really going to be hit. Behind the scenes

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that are epic battles between ministers and the Treasury about

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where they will find their cuts between 25 and 40%. Some people

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believe the easy savings went between 2010 and 2015. Some

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ministers are trying to look for bigger opportunities to make bigger

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changes to make reforms that also deliver cash but there are really

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serious and worrying conversations. People about this, and briefly, for

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the police, it has become not a serious political issue yet but it

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may well. Some conservative lease commissioners are making protests as

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well. -- police commissioners. Thank you, Laura.

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Are you the type of person who likes a campaign?

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Do you send around appeals on Facebook and change

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Are you fond of a good slogan badge and partial

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If so, does it really achieve anything?

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Writer James James Bartholomew thinks not - he says it's really

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This is the birthplace of Octavia Hill.

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She was co-founder of the National Trust,

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but more importantly, she was a major social reformer in the 19th

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She was appalled by the living conditions of the working poor.

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But instead of just wringing her hands about it

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She created low-cost housing for them.

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These days, many people think that merely

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expressing an opinion establishes that they really, really care.

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They use wristbands, hashtags, tweets,

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twibbons and T-shirts to show they have fashionably right-on opinions.

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I call this phenomenon virtue signalling.

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It is the idea that having and expressing particular opinion

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In Britain we can be quite sophisticated about this.

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We can indicate how good we are by saying we hate something.

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"I hate the Daily Mail" means "I am an open-minded liberal sort

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"I hate Ukip" means "I'm not a racist", and the more angry

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and the more I beat the drum about how I hate Ukip, the more it

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But have you noticed something about this kind of virtue?

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In contrast to Octavia here, it does not require actually doing anything.

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It requires a show of effort and no sacrifice.

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I suppose the reason that all this virtue signalling really

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irritates me is that there are still people who are truly virtuous.

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These are plaques commemorating people who did actual good deeds.

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And that kind of generosity and decency takes place today

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among ordinary people, people who stay together for the sake of the

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children, a person who looks after an elderly parent, maybe for years.

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There is such a thing still as actual virtue.

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But virtue signalling without actually doing

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It is self-righteous, vain, and silly.

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It is not what you say or think that matters, it's what you do.

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James Bartholomew, at Octavia Hill Birthplace House in Wisbech.

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What's new about this? Presumably throughout history there have been

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holier than thou people. As the Internet make this worse? I don't

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know. This is going back to the subject write about, the welfare

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state. The welfare state has a lot to do with it, people feel they have

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outsourced their decency, I pay taxes, therefore I don't have to

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anything! That is part of why virtues signalling without doing

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anything has increased. Are they doing nothing? Surely the idea of

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saying that I feel strongly about this and other people will say, I

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agree, what can we do, you have been crowd sourcing something you can do

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about it, whereas you might not have known what to do in the first place.

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You can do two things. Change government policy which could do

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good or harm, or you could do something like setting up a home for

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the elderly or an organisation that visits lonely elderly people. You

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can do something. And that's great. Campaigning can lead to that. What

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irritates me is the people who I've met, in contrast to people who do

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real good, the people who think, I can say that I hate the Daily Mail

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and Ukip and I vote Labour once every five years, I am a morally

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superior person. That irritates me because there are people who make

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sacrifices... LAUGHTER

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The suggestion is that virtues signalling is a problem for the

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left! The phrase that I created is mentioned several hundred times in

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the Guardian because they are accusing each other of virtues

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signalling. Is that fair? It is not what you say, it is what you do. It

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used to be that if an MP got half a dozen letters they would think it

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was a movement. Now you can get hundreds of e-mails. Many standard,

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some telling personal stories. I think there is now a welcome culture

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of people finding it easier to communicate with their MP and that's

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a good thing. Using to be suggesting that there is a sanctimonious tone

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about it and laziness behind it. Absolutely, lazy, vain,

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self-righteous. With these conditions you can do so easily,

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saying that there are naked women in the Sun, that is awful. Not actually

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changing anything. Do you do virtue signalling, Therese it's

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extraordinary. Twitter doesn't reflect British opinion in anyway,

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even people who click an e-mail, I think that has lost its currency as

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well. You do not have to think things through, you can say, this is

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awful and you don't have do think through the consequences, reducing

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tax credits, what's the other side of the story? What do you do to do

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something about things. I can't start boasting that, that would be

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equally bad! You sort the trap! Do you volunteer, do you do things? I

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don't want to boast about things I do. That would be pride as well. Let

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me spare you the embarrassment, thank you.

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Now, what do Anthony Gormley, William Shakespeare and

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The answer is they all feature in the new British passport,

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designed especially to celebrate the UK's creative and cultural past.

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It's meant to be the most secure passport ever, but its launch

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The travel document features seven men, but only two women

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and no-one from Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.

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Here's what the Home Office Minister, James Brokenshire had

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The people of Great Britain and Northern Ireland continue to be

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pioneers within the creative sector. And in recognition of all of these

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achievements, I'm today proud to unveil the latest design of the UK

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passport. Under the theme of "Creative United Kingdom".

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This design will be used for the next five years, and features the

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works of many of this country's finest creative talents.

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With me now, passport expert Martin Lloyd. He's the author of The

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Passport. This has caused almighty row. Apparently yes, we have a

:25:54.:25:59.

pretty picture book for a passport. It wasn't always like that. What was

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it like? It's derived from a letter of introduction and a king 's

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licence which was permission to leave the country. It came looking

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like a letter of introduction! Of course you didn't need a Buddhist

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passport. This man, Charles Sloan, went to France on a French passport!

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It was quite easy. The British passport cost ?2 seven and six, the

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French one cost four shillings. No argument! To bring it forward, only

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two women, seven men. What do you think of that? I don't know. I like

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women! Does it matter? It does. The idea that men are more creative than

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women, there are some outstanding women who should have been included

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like the wonderful architect who designed the Olympic Village. Why

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don't we have creative people of that kind reflecting the diversity

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of this country as well? I just think maybe your government has a

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problem with women? It's not true, Elisabeth Scott is featured and she

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designed the RSC. Do you know much about her? I know she's designing

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iconic buildings. The things we are addressing like gender equality, it

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is nonsense to say that we don't like women. Who has the best

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passport? We must. It is almost the most expensive. Doesn't mean it is

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the best? Of course not. It is a good demonstration of the skill of

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the printers, clever ideas, but the forgers are always six months behind

:27:50.:27:51.

them so they have to keep renewing these things. If we left the

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European Union would we need another passport? That would be good, we

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could go back to Victorian times and have something personally signed by

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the Foreign Secretary! That's the way to do it! Passport and 13. Izzy

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and to Thomas Hodges, signed by Lord Palmerston. -- is used to Thomas

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Hodges. When you handed that to a foreigner, they knew you were

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British! This just time to put you out of your misery.

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Therese, press that big red button there.

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The answer to Guess The Year was 2012. The mug goes to our viewer.

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Christa Williams, well done. That's all for today.

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The One O'clock News is starting over on BBC One now.

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Andrew will be back here as well, so do join us then.

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I'm actually tingling with the excitement.

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We're going to test your skills at the wheel.

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It's too intimidating. Do it for your family!

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