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David Cameron's off on his European travels again today still trying

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to drum up support for his renegotiation of Britain's

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membership of the EU. But the PM's expected to get

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a frosty reception in Poland - they've declared in work benefits

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a red-line issue when it comes to EU renegotiation.

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That means it's the Chancellor, George Osborne's big day

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Joining him for PMQs for the first time, Labour's Angela Eagle.

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The Prime Minister's friend and Conservative chairman,

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Lord Feldman, is facing claims - which he denies - that he was told

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And should this man become the become the next President

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Donald J Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown

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of Muslims entering the United States until our

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country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.

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All that in the next hour and with us for the duration two MPs

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who unfortunately would never say anything controversial,

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The Energy and Climate Change Minister, Andrea Leadson,

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and the Shadow Education Secretary, Lucy Powell.

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Now, before we get to talk about anything serious spare

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a thought for one poor chap who unwittingly stole

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The Croatian president is on the right. The man there is pulling his

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trousers up! The president is thoughtfully using this very large

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award to hide his embarrassment. His name is Ivan and he was therefore a

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human rights award but it did not go to plan. You feel for him. Maybe he

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has been on a diet. Indeed but there are things called belts! A few more

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notches needed in the belt! When you were appointed you said you

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had not met Jeremy Corbyn, what is his leadership style like? I have

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got to know him really well over the last few weeks, we talked a lot

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about education policy and share views about the direction of travel

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and wants to see education policy go. He is kind and generous and

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principled and I have got to know him and like him. Actually, apart

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from some of the things you might have read about happening at Shadow

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Cabinet meetings, actually, the meetings have been comradely, with

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wide discussions, and we have shared views in an open and honest way and

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I welcome that. So you share views and agreed so the idea of collective

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responsibility has gone out the window with Syria and Trident? On

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the issue with a free vote, some of us came to a different conclusion

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than Jeremy but for the vast majority of us, we shared the same

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concerns one way or another and it was a very finely balanced judgment

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in the end and those of us who voted for air strikes did so by a few

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percentage points in that final judgment, as did many of my

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colleagues who voted the opposite way and we respected each other's

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views on that. On the whole, Jeremy and I have had many hours of

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conversations about education policy.

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I have given a presentation to the Shadow Cabinet about those issues.

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He was criticised for not appointing a woman to the top three jobs, was

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that a mistake? The raw many women in the Shadow Cabinet. Strong and

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capable and able women. We will see Angela Eagle deputising today. He

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was clear about that. I really welcome her there at the dispatch

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box. The Prime Minister was in trouble last week for calling Jeromy

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Corbyn and people like him as terrorist sympathisers. David

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Cameron's comments were really unhelpful to say the least and he

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was absolutely wrong about that and it was a dangerous game trying to

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criticise that. How do you describe people at Stop The War? He is a

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long-standing loyal member of that organisation and they are a

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principled organisation that believe that war and military intervention

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can't ever be part of the process towards peace. I would like to

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think... That is not what they say. They are not against all wars at

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all. I understood... They did not raise a voice against the Russian

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invasion into Ukraine Crimea. As far as I'm aware. Well, they are

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certainly against military intervention in the middle East. As

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I was going to go on to say, clearly, given the difference of

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opinion that Jeremy and I came to last week, I don't agree with

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everything that the Stop The War coalition advocates. Jeremy does. It

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is an organisation that he has had a long-standing relationship with, it

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is entirely a matter for him whether he wants to continue that. It was

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the terrorist sympathisers I wanted to talk about and how you would

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describe people at Stop The War. After Paris, Stop The War said

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France reaped the whirlwind of foreign policy and they said Islamic

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State had the same spirit of international that motivated the

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brigade before fascism in the 1930s. Does it indicate some sympathy

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towards terrorists? I totally disagree with the comment. So does

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Jeremy Corbyn as I understand. Those comments were not statements of the

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organisation themselves but of members within them, and as we often

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have on debating forums, whether it be newspapers... Stop The War

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comparing him and his colleagues to Islamic State is shameful, isn't it?

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I disagree with those comments and as I understand it so does Jeremy

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Corbyn. Why is Jeremy Corbyn going to do their Christmas fundraiser?

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That is a matter for him coming he has a long-standing relationship

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with the organisation and as I understand it, those comments were

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not from the organisation but were put on there by individuals

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associated with Stop The War and were taken down as quickly as they

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went up there which is often the case. If you look at the Daily Mail

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or Guardian website or the Labour Party website or Tory party website,

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I am sure you can find abhorrent opinions being posted. That is not

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the same. Some take awhile to be taken down. As I say, I do not agree

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with Stop The War. Should Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour Party,

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the associated with an organisation that says those sorts of things not

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just once but twice? Some of your colleagues say it is shameful.

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Caroline Lucas has stepped down from her role because of the things that

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were said should Jeremy Corbyn? Are they the views of the organisation?

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Are they a statement from the organisation? I understand that they

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are not. The statements from individuals associated with it which

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many people including Jeremy Corbyn had distanced themselves from an say

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they do not agree with it. Should Jeremy Corbyn he allowed, be able,

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and should he come to his own decision about whether he wants to

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go to an event organised by an organisation that he himself said

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Arp, that he has a principled view that he supports, of course he

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should be allowed to. -- he himself set up. He was elected because he

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came from a principled... You are happy to be associated with that

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organisation? I am not happy... The comments they came from people at

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Stop The War. We can have a different view about that but my

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understanding is that they are not the views of the coalition

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themselves. Some colleagues have urged him not to go? They have and I

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understand that but is a matter for Jeromy and if he wants to go, he is

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a man of principle, he was elected, he was supported because he was a

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man of principle and we might not agree with all of his views and I

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don't agree with all of what Stop The War said, but it is up to him

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whether he wants to go or not. David Cameron won't be taking PMQs

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today because he's off to Romania and Poland

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for a couple of days. No, not Christmas shopping,

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but making the case for restricting migration to the UK with two

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of his most implacable opponents. to in the Daily Politics

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renegotiation guide update. After calls for clarity from Britain

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by EU Parliament president Martin Schulz, David Cameron wrote

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to EU Commission President Donald Tusk setting out four

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well-rehearsed, areas for reform. Economic governance -

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an explicit recognition that the euro is not the only

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currency of the European Union to ensure countries

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outside the eurozone Setting a target for the reduction

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of the "burden" of excessive regulation and extending

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the single market. Allowing Britain to opt out

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from the EU's founding ambition to forge an "ever closer union"

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of the peoples of Europe so it will not be drawn

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into further political integration. And an area that has

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proved problematic - Restricting access to in and out

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of work benefits to people who've been in the UK for

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less than four years. to seal a deal at the EU summit next

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week, but in a letter this week ahead of that meeting Donald Tusk

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stated consultations have shown that "issues raised by the British Prime

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Minister are difficult." "The fourth basket on social

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benefits and the free movement of persons is the most delicate",

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with Poland declaring it But as David Cameron flies

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to Romania and Poland today to make his case for reform,

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talks remain in deadlock, and the Prime Minister's

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timetable in tatters. Andrea, if the Prime Minister was to

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get to achieve the demands that she outlined there, would you vote to

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stay in? Well, what we have got to do is wait and see what he achieves.

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I am asking you if he does achieve what was outlined there, and these

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are his official demands, would you vote to stay in? Yell at the they

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are top lines and there will be a package where he can and initiate,

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so I would vote to stay in. -- negotiate. We cannot really

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speculate on how people should react into we see what he comes back with.

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If he gets his top lines, that will be enough? They need to be defined.

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As was said, on the issue of competitiveness, there is a lot

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within that, within the possibilities of the single market.

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It is vague and meaningless. It is not vague, it is principle. Less red

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tape? Everybody says less red tape and then when you get into power you

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give us more red tape so it is meaningless. The point he is

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achieving is working towards negotiating the specific meaning of

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work towards greater competitiveness, economic governance

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must devil is in the detail but that is part of the negotiations and we

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have to wait and see what he comes back with. Supposing we agreed

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parameters by which we determine competitiveness and in five years'

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time it turns out none have been met, what would happen? The thing

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the EU has form on, and let's face it, the Prime Minister has done well

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and has achieved a significant first. Never mind that, what would

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happen if none of the competitive targets were met?

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These things stick. He is looking for a legally binding... Not a

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handshake and cup of coffee, he is looking for legally binding

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commitment. It can be with an intergovernmental agreement. There

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is precedence. It is legally binding. What happens if targets are

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not met? It would be. In 2001, in Lisbon, the origin of the famous

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Lisbon Treaty it was put in the treaty by 2010, Europe would be the

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most competitive region in the world. How did that go? Bat was an

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aspiration, not a policy. The Prime Minister is talking about specifics,

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what measures will beat you be taking? Give me an exact measure.

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Free trade agreements the Prime Minister is pitching for. The

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completion of the single market where implementation... The

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enforcement of rules agreed to. Europe is going through a free trade

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agreement. It could do more. That would be legally binding? The

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package the Prime Minister is looking for will be legally binding

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on all member states. That free trade agreement with China, that

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Europe does not have, that will be a legally binding requirement? The

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work to go into getting more free trade agreements will be a

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commitment. Europe is committed to more free-trade agreements. It takes

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its time getting there and it is sometimes difficult to get all to

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agree but it wants them, I do not understand how that will change. It

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is policy to have more free-trade agreements. The view of the Prime

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Minister is the European Union, in its own interest is, can do more to

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be more competitive. Our position in world competitiveness, world GDP as

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28 member states has dropped like a stone. We have to turn it around to

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compete in a more global world. That is what the Prime Minister is

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seeking to do. If the Prime Minister cannot get what he looks for on

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welfare, in work welfare for migrants, which is even if they work

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they do not qualify for in work welfare for several years. If he

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does not get it, will it be a deal-breaker? He said he will rule

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nothing deal-breaker? He said he will rule

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speak. I am asking you if it deal-breaker? He said he will rule

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be a deal-breaker if you deal-breaker? He said he will rule

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it? He needs to negotiate deal-breaker? He said he will rule

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four headings, that is his plan. deal-breaker? He said he will rule

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will come back and it is for deal-breaker? He said he will rule

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British people to decide. You are a member of the British people, what

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does this British person think about the four-year break before migrants

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qualify for in work welfare? Should it be a deal-breaker? I think some

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shift in the unity of UK people to not be paying for migrants who have

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not contributed is vital. In that sense it should be a deal-breaker,

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but in the sense should it sense it should be a deal-breaker,

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exactly this form, we have to see what the Prime Minister comes back

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with. He is committed what the Prime Minister comes back

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pillars. Why should it be what the Prime Minister comes back

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deal-breaker since we learned from the OBR that even if we got it and

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make no difference to the number of migrants coming head? Because it is

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people who have not paid in should be automatically be able

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people who have not paid in should out. It was presented as an issue

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because the Prime Minister wants to reduce migration, but if it doesn't,

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what is the point? The Office for Budget Responsibility do forecasts.

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The Prime Minister's proposals would reduce pull factors. In other words

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some reasons why coming to the UK to work are at the moment attractive.

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That is not what the OBR says, it assumes continued rising migration.

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That is why it forecasts on tax revenues. The key point is that we

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will be looking to make it fairer to taxpayers who have paid into the

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system over people who have just arrived. So now it is about

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fairness, not about reducing migration? It is about reducing pull

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factors. The OBR said it won't. They do not have a crystal ball. What is

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the minimum wage in Romania? Reducing pull factors for people to

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come here to get in work benefits, free housing, to send child benefit

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home to children not resident in the UK, these are things my constituents

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worry about. I understand that if the national minimum wage is over

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?9, that is a big pull factor for many of these people. They will not

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care about in work benefits. Over ?9 an hour will be beyond their wildest

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dreams in Bulgaria and Romania and that is a pull factor. That will not

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be the same issue constituents have about people coming to the country

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and effectively living off taxes of people who work hard. Paying their

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taxes for someone else to benefit on day one. There is an issue of

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fairness and pull factors. Does Labour support what the Prime

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Minister is trying to negotiate? What we want to see is a clearer

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leadership from the government. About why it is important Britain

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stays in the EU. Do you support the four areas outlined that he wants to

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change our relationship? Does Labour support these areas? Broadly

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speaking will stop but there is wiggle room. The in work benefit

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issue, that was a Labour Party policy of the last election, albeit

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for a shorter period. Is it still Labour policy? Yes. It is still

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Labour policy that migrants coming from the EU should be denied in work

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benefits for the first two years? We said we would look to get a deal on

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two years. As the Prime Minister has said, his notion of a four-year

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break on that is going to be possible. Is it still Labour policy

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to want a two-year break? Yes, I dearly, yes. -- ideally. Does Jeremy

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Corbyn support not paying for the first two years? I cannot remember

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what he's said in that discussion but it is clear it is Labour Party

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policy. As Andrea said, as the Prime Minister said, the idea we will get

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agreement across Europe for a four-year break is impossible. I

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think two is at the upper end of what is achievable. In 2014 your

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party stated that EU migrants would have to wait two years before

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claiming out of work benefits. Now you say it is at the upper end. As

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Rachel Reeves, the then Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary when we

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develop that policy, she spoke to a number of European colleagues about

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whether they would agree to that move and that was just over a year

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ago and all the people she spoke to win the European Commission, Germany

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and other countries, had not heard from our government at that time

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asking those questions. The key issue about Europe is because the

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Prime Minister is hiding behind a pseudo- process. I thought you said

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you supported it. We support the measures but we are not hiding

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behind it to say only in those circumstances do we support Britain

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staying the EU. We have ministers coming on the TV not able to say why

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Britain benefits from being part of the EU. There are costs but they are

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outweighed by the benefits and we need leadership on why the benefits

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outweigh the cost. And keep. -- thank you.

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George Osborne's hopped back from four days in New York

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Rumour has it the Christmas shopping has gone rather well.

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I bumped into him on 5th Avenue just a couple of days ago.

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But George shouldn't you be ticking off your Christmas list

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Yes, Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.

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Without the Prime Minister. Nor the Leader of the Opposition.

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A Conservative Party activists said he warned the chairman about alleged

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bullying in the youth wing five years ago. Patrick Sullivan is the

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man who told Newsnight he put together a dossier with another

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Tory, Ben Howlett, now an MP. I have known Ben Howlett for a number of

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years. He won election for Conservative future chairman and was

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subjected to bullying during that campaign and subsequently withdrew

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his chairmanship. He has a strong anti-bullying stance in his

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campaign. As I said there had been a culture of bullying. As soon as he

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is elected, myself, Ben, helped compile a dossier and that dossier

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was given by Ben to Lord Feldman and Sayeeda Warsi. The dossier is not

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the only thing. There were complaints about Mark Clarke that

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were given to Roger Pratt in 2008. So complaints about Mark Clarke have

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been something the Conservative Central office have known about for

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a very long time. For a very long time. Why did it take so long for

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the Conservatives to do anything? The first thing I would like to say

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is this is a serious and awful story. A number of people I work

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within Parliament new Elliott Johnson, the young man who took his

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own life. I would like to say I am sorry to hear about that. Genuinely

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I do not know the background to this story and therefore I think it is

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right we have a completely independent of what has gone on. It

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is taking opportunities to get to the level of independence. Every

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is taking opportunities to get to to be moved to a new level of

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is taking opportunities to get to independence and even now people are

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not entirely sure it is -- sure. I am absolutely assured it is an

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independent review. Five years, we are told, and there were regular

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accusations of bullying and we are told the dossier was passed over by

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someone who is now a Tory MP colleague of yours and nothing was

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really done until this matter came to a head in an appalling tragedy

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you refer to. That is terrible, isn't it? I genuinely don't know. It

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is an absolute tragedy. That is why it is important we get to the bottom

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of it. The trouble something for the Conservative Party is how long this

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saga is going on, and the way in which more and more revelations keep

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coming out. It has claimed Grant Shapps as a minister who resigned

:28:34.:28:38.

over the affair and now questions continue for Lord Feldman. Right

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now, he is emphatic in his denials he did not know exactly what was

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going on. It is difficult for the party, I think, to appear to have

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taken this seriously enough when many people say they have been too

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slow to act. I have had to alter the approach in terms of an independent

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enquiry. There was going to be an in-house investigation. As often in

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these quite tangled stories, that sometimes comes down to different

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people'sversions of event is, it is all about who knew what and when

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they knew it. At the moment the question of contention is what Lord

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Feldman knew and when and he is adamant he did not know about these

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kinds of allegations. We are told the dossier was handed over by Ben

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Howlett in 2010 to Lord the dossier was handed over by Ben

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Baroness Warsi. We cannot get hold of Ben Howlett

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Baroness Warsi. We cannot get hold cannot get hold of Aaron Nastase

:29:43.:29:46.

this morning, why? I think -- Baroness Warsi. This is about

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personal relationships. Mark Clarke Baroness Warsi. This is about

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was a controversial figure in Conservative Party headquarters for

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a long time. But the level of emotion and personal animosity

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caught up in this, understandably, because the outcome for the

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caught up in this, understandably, family were so appalling, people are

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holding back in terms of wading in this. Ben Howlett might be on the

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benches waiting for George Osborne to take to the dispatch box. He has

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an opportunity to clear this up. Has anyone seen the dossier? Beyond

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those... Patrick Sullivan apparently has. He did not keep a copy. A

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Conservative source said they had been looking for the dossier and had

:30:36.:30:39.

not been able to find it, which is why it is crucial to hear from Ben

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Howlett in terms of whether he handed it over. It is difficult to

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imagine that someone would not have kept a copy. Interesting that

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Patrick Sullivan, who spoke to Newsnight, was explicit hard copies

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had been passed over and in his view this is a document that existed, but

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we are not clear what the precise nature of the allegations in a

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while. Or how strong. This is the crucial thing. We will come back to

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that. We can go to Prime Minister's they will not enjoy a season of

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goodwill. Why is he choosing down to cut the budget of the Birmingham

:31:49.:31:57.

They help to 24,000 loan shark victims to get debts written off.

:31:58.:32:04.

Will he have a word with his Business Secretary who seems to

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refusing to answer questions on the Daily Mirror on this question. We

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take very seriously illegal loan sharks and excessive interest

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charges on payday lending which is why the Tories introduced a cap on

:32:25.:32:32.

payday lending. On the question of funding for illegal money-laundering

:32:33.:32:35.

and loan shark teams, we are looking at a levy on the industry to meet

:32:36.:32:45.

funding requirements. Can you give an update on action against jacquard

:32:46.:32:52.

-ists who not only attack Muslims but almost or so pillage mosques.

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Along side protecting culture and heritage, can we ratify the Hague

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commission? Thank you for raising this important issue and let me

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update the house on military action. 16 aircraft are conducting strikes

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as well as drones. There are 11 missions and there were four strikes

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against oil fields and we are supporting Iraqi security services,

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and the Foreign Secretary is going to be in New York for talks on

:33:31.:33:34.

bringing an end to the horrendous conflict in Syria. Very

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specifically, on the damage being done to the cultural artefacts of

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the area and we are providing ?30 million as part of a cultural fund

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and I have discussed that with the director of the British Museum.

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Ratifying the Hague Convention, that is moving apace. Angela Eagle.

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CHEERING Thank you, it is nice to get a warm

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welcome! Our hearts go out to those suffering

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the consequences of severe flooding in the north-west this week with

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thousands of businesses affected. The priority has to be for the

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government to get immediate help to all of them. One year on from the 20

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13th-14th floods, only some have received payment from the government

:34:47.:34:50.

scheme. Does the Chancellor agree that this cannot possibly be allowed

:34:51.:34:56.

to happen again, these people need urgent help now? Will the Chancellor

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give a guarantee that people will receive the help that they need and

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quickly? Let me welcome the Honourable lady to her place and the

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warm support she has on the other side. Let me join her in expressing

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the sympathy of the whole House to those who have been with by the

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terrible floods and the record rainfall that has hit Cumbria and

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Lancashire. The update is that we have one severe flood warning in

:35:28.:35:33.

place, power has been restored to 168,000 homes, the West Coast Main

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Line is open, but we have to be there for the long term. We support

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the immediate rescue efforts, the military have been deployed. On

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recovery, I can now announce a ?50 million fund for families and

:35:50.:35:53.

businesses affected in the area. This will be administered by the

:35:54.:35:57.

local authorities to avoid some of the administrative problems she

:35:58.:36:03.

alluded to. When it comes to rebuilding the Cumbria and

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Lancashire infrastructure, we are assessing the damage to floods the

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fences and the damage to roads and funds will be made available. One of

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the benefits of the strong economy is helping people in need. I thank

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the Chancellor for that answer but you would not think from listening

:36:21.:36:25.

to him that he has got flood defence spending by a this year. -- that he

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has cut. After visiting the floods in the Somerset Levels in 2014, the

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Prime Minister told this House that money is no object in this relief

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effort and whatever money is needed will be spent. I welcome the

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announcement that the Chancellor has just made but will need factor will

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he confirm that the same will apply? Absolutely money will be made

:36:57.:36:59.

available to those affected and to the communities who have seen their

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infrastructure damaged. ?5,000 will be made available to individual

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families to repair their homes and protect them against future flooding

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and we will provide money to businesses who have seen their

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businesses ruins and there have been heartbreaking stories that we have

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seen on TV about businesses that have been affected as well, so that

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money is available. As I say, because we have a strong and

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resilient economy, we are increasing the money we spend on flood

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defences, and it is just not the case to say that that has been

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reduced. Under the last Labour government, they spent ?100 billion

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on flood defences. We are spending ?2 billion on flood defences and

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increasing maintenance spending. -- ?1 billion. It is precisely because

:37:47.:37:51.

we took the difficult decisions to fix our economy. I thank the

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Chancellor for that and we will hold him to account on the promises he

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has made today. I note that the government's own figures show that

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the capital investment in flood defences will only protect one in

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eight of those households that are at risk. Mr Speaker, I see that the

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Prime Minister cannot be with us to answer questions today because he is

:38:17.:38:21.

visiting Poland and Romania on the latest leg of his seemingly endless

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European renegotiation tour. LAUGHTER He has been jetting all

:38:25.:38:35.

over the place. No wonder he had to buy his own

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aeroplane! Can the Chancellor tell us how it is all going? The good

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news is... Groaning. We have a party leader who is respected abroad.

:38:55.:39:10.

The Prime Minister is in central and eastern Europe because we are

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fighting for a better deal for Great Britain, something that would not

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have happened if there had been a Labour government. Well, Mr Speaker,

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I have to tell him that many of his own backbenchers are pretty

:39:27.:39:41.

unimpressed with how it is going. Mr Speaker, the honourable member for

:39:42.:39:44.

North East Somerset has described the Prime Minister's renegotiation

:39:45.:39:51.

efforts is pretty thin gruel. One honourable member has called them

:39:52.:39:54.

lame and trivial, and honourable member has called them

:39:55.:39:57.

honourable member for Richmond Park told the press that they were not

:39:58.:39:59.

all that impressive. Mr told the press that they were not

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Chancellor is well-known for his backbenchers. There is absolutely

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nothing wrong with that. Can I ask him the question his own side want

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answering? Given that the Prime Minister has pre-resigns, does he

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really aspire to be written's first post EU Prime Minister? -- written's

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-- Britain. Most opposition parties are trying to get momentum, they are

:40:45.:40:46.

trying to get rid of it! We are are trying to get momentum, they are

:40:47.:40:56.

Britain in Europe, we are fighting to make the European economy more

:40:57.:41:02.

competitive for everyone and fighting for Great Britain getting a

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fair deal. That is what we are fighting for but in the end this

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will be something we put to the people of Great Britain in a

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referendum, and the only reason that referendum is happening at all is

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because the Conservative Party won the general election. Mr Speaker,

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the Chancellor is that of obsessing about issues in the Labour Party

:41:29.:41:32.

should be condemning activities in Conservative Future. I notice he did

:41:33.:41:41.

not answer the question about his own prime ministerial activities, he

:41:42.:41:45.

might be worried about somebody a few places down him on the bench, I

:41:46.:41:51.

am not sure. He is looking very cross! It is Oliver! Oliver is

:41:52.:42:06.

coming back for more! backbenchers, perhaps he will listen

:42:07.:42:26.

to someone who has written it. backbenchers, perhaps he will listen

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have a letter here. Mr Speaker, it is from Donald of Brussels.

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LAUGHTER And he writes, uncertainty about the

:42:51.:43:06.

future of the UK and EU is a destabilising factor. He is right,

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isn't he? Well, since the Conservative Party announced its

:43:15.:43:19.

policy on the referendum, we have received the lion's share of

:43:20.:43:22.

investment into Europe here in this country. We have built a strong

:43:23.:43:27.

economy because we stand up for Great Britain's interests abroad. It

:43:28.:43:31.

is a competitive place to build and grow a business. There is someone

:43:32.:43:36.

called Tony who has been writing today. He happens to be the most

:43:37.:43:41.

successful Labour leader in history and he is describing the Labour

:43:42.:43:44.

Party is a complete tragedy at the moment. Can she ask some serious

:43:45.:43:51.

questions about the health service, the economy, social care? She can

:43:52.:44:00.

ask any of these questions, she has one more question, let's hear it. Mr

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Speaker, I prefer this quote from Tony. Just mouth the words. Five

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more Tory years and you feel repulsed by what they have done to

:44:16.:44:28.

our country. Mr Speaker, we all know that the Chancellor is so

:44:29.:44:32.

preoccupied with his own leadership ambitions that he forgot about the

:44:33.:44:38.

day job, and that is why he ended up trying to slash working families'

:44:39.:44:43.

tax credits in the budget. Shouldn't he spends time focusing on the

:44:44.:44:46.

national interest rather than his own interest? 3 million UK jobs are

:44:47.:44:56.

linked to trade with the EU, half our exports go there, and that is

:44:57.:45:06.

why they are putting it at risk by flirting with Brexit and that is why

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we know on this side of the house that Britain is better off in. I

:45:11.:45:16.

thought the Labour Party voted for the referendum when it came before

:45:17.:45:19.

the House of Commons. We are fighting for a better deal for Great

:45:20.:45:22.

Britain in Europe, and the truth is this. We have shown we have an

:45:23.:45:27.

economic plan which is delivering for Great Britain, and whether it is

:45:28.:45:31.

well funded flood defences of putting money into our national

:45:32.:45:35.

health service, or backing our teachers in the schools, or

:45:36.:45:38.

introducing a national living wage, we are delivering security for the

:45:39.:45:42.

working people of Great Britain, and their economic and national security

:45:43.:45:47.

will be put at risk if the Labour Party got back into office.

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I recently visited David Wilton Holmes apprentice workshop and saw

:45:54.:46:05.

what the construction industry is doing to support apprenticeships in

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Hampshire. Can he tell us what more schools can do to promote

:46:11.:46:14.

apprenticeships as a viable alternative to post-16 study? I

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think my honourable friend raises an important point. Schools have a duty

:46:18.:46:25.

to provide pupils on the range of training and education and if

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schools can tell their pupils about the increase in the number of

:46:30.:46:33.

apprenticeship places we are funding... There will be 3 million

:46:34.:46:37.

apprentices in this Parliament, a huge commitment to young people in

:46:38.:46:41.

this country and a big commitment to the construction industry. We want

:46:42.:46:45.

homes to be built and a challenge is to get skilled people in the

:46:46.:46:49.

industry, something no doubt race by the business she spoke to. The 3

:46:50.:46:55.

million will help. Occasionally, highly toxic and dangerous materials

:46:56.:47:03.

are transported around the country. Is the public right to expect the

:47:04.:47:10.

highest safety standards and cooperation between safety agencies?

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Absolutely, they are expected to have that cooperation. If he is

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talking about the transportation of nuclear materials from the fast Lane

:47:20.:47:30.

base -- Faslane base, I met teams there. But if he has some thing else

:47:31.:47:38.

to ask about go ahead. There are reports in the North of Scotland

:47:39.:47:44.

about plans to transport dangerous material including potentially

:47:45.:47:48.

nuclear weapons grade uranium from a nuclear facility, on public roads to

:47:49.:47:53.

Wick airport and it is believed it will be flown to the United States.

:47:54.:47:58.

What will this nuclear material used for and have any of his colleagues

:47:59.:48:02.

or himself spoken to a minister in the Scottish Government about this?

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The transportation of nuclear materials has happened across this

:48:12.:48:16.

country over many decades. There are procedures for doing so. The Royal

:48:17.:48:20.

Marines and police service in Scotland provide security. If he has

:48:21.:48:27.

specific concerns he wants to raise about the plans for the

:48:28.:48:31.

transportation, he can raise them with us. The arrangements are in

:48:32.:48:35.

place to make sure we protect the public.

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The Chancellor will know the Prime Minister said in his recent

:48:42.:48:45.

conference speech we have to get away from the lock them up or let

:48:46.:48:50.

them out mentality when it comes to prison reform. Our prison system

:48:51.:48:55.

costs constituents of fortune. Would he agree the time for rehabilitation

:48:56.:48:59.

that works is now and we should not be afraid to look at other

:49:00.:49:03.

jurisdictions to find new ideas to tackle an ongoing state failure? I

:49:04.:49:09.

think he is right to raise the question of is an reform. People who

:49:10.:49:14.

commit crime should go to prison but was and should be suitable to

:49:15.:49:18.

rehabilitate prisoners. It is our Victorian prisoners that are not --

:49:19.:49:23.

prisons that are not suitable and that is why we will knock them down

:49:24.:49:28.

and build housing in cities which is desperately needed and build modern

:49:29.:49:33.

prisons on the outskirts of inner cities and cities. I am proud a

:49:34.:49:37.

Conservative government is taking on this progressive social reform. They

:49:38.:49:47.

are a great British institution that earn billions for the economy but

:49:48.:49:51.

I'm sure he will share my concern two curry houses a week are closing

:49:52.:49:56.

in this country due to government policies. The specialist propose

:49:57.:50:01.

colleges have failed. As a fan himself, will he reviewed the

:50:02.:50:05.

situation? He once likened the elements of a strong economy to that

:50:06.:50:10.

of a good curry. Will he head of the curry crisis? We all enjoy a great

:50:11.:50:20.

British curry, but what we want is the curry chefs trained in Britain.

:50:21.:50:26.

So we provide jobs for people in this country and that is what our

:50:27.:50:35.

immigration controls provide. He is well aware from my representations

:50:36.:50:41.

of the need for a Southern relief road and bypass in Lincoln, delayed

:50:42.:50:45.

by bureaucracy for almost 100 years. He is acquainted with the need to

:50:46.:50:51.

drive growth and economic well-being, utilising infrastructure

:50:52.:50:54.

to field the Midlands engine. What would he say to constituents should

:50:55.:50:58.

he visit the beautiful city of Lincoln other than any new road is

:50:59.:51:09.

better. I congratulate him on securing extra funding for Lincoln

:51:10.:51:13.

and ensuring a bypass will go ahead. I know he has concerns that the

:51:14.:51:17.

bypass is not big enough and it needs to be a dual carriageway

:51:18.:51:27.

bypass. What we need is to make sure the local authorities agree with his

:51:28.:51:30.

assessment and I am happy to help him in that task. Since his budget

:51:31.:51:39.

in July I have asked time and again about how he intends to make women

:51:40.:51:48.

prove in order to qualify for tax credits. Will he admit that this

:51:49.:51:56.

abhorrent policy is not workable and will he dropped the clause? It is

:51:57.:52:00.

reasonable to have a system that is fair to those who need it and those

:52:01.:52:07.

who pay for it, as well. We identified the specific case she

:52:08.:52:10.

identifies in her question about women who have been the victim of

:52:11.:52:12.

domestic abuse or indeed women who have been the victim of

:52:13.:52:17.

that is why we are discussing changes to protect those vulnerable

:52:18.:52:24.

women. Over 4000 apprentices are being created in my constituency.

:52:25.:52:32.

Recently I met with a group of local businesses to discuss skills and

:52:33.:52:36.

apprenticeships. Would he confirm what the government is doing to help

:52:37.:52:39.

small businesses help people into what the government is doing to help

:52:40.:52:43.

training and employment and to continue to secure the economy of

:52:44.:52:49.

the Midlands engine? The great news is jobs are being created in the

:52:50.:52:54.

Midlands engine and in her constituency and we are investing in

:52:55.:52:57.

infrastructure there and also in the skills of the next generation with

:52:58.:53:02.

the apprentices she talks about. We are backing the small businesses by

:53:03.:53:07.

cutting corporation tax that small businesses pay and indeed increasing

:53:08.:53:10.

the employment allowance so they can take on more people without paying

:53:11.:53:19.

the job sacks. Medecins Sans Frontieres report that despite

:53:20.:53:23.

giving GPS coordinates, several of the hospitals have been bombed by

:53:24.:53:32.

particularly Assad forces, killing medics as well as patients. Can he

:53:33.:53:37.

explain, with so many forces involved in air strikes, how the

:53:38.:53:44.

government proposes to avoid this? Of course, there was the tragic

:53:45.:53:49.

situation of the bombing of the hospital that she mentions and there

:53:50.:53:54.

is a review going on to make sure the coalition has got accurate

:53:55.:53:59.

information for strikes. When it comes to Yemen, we are working with

:54:00.:54:03.

the Saudi government to ensure they review this information and it is

:54:04.:54:08.

accurate. As for the Syrian government and President Assad, we

:54:09.:54:11.

have no control over them, which is one reason we would like to see a --

:54:12.:54:24.

Assad go. In my constituency new jobs, good news for a constituency

:54:25.:54:30.

where unemployment has halved since 2010. Will he continue to vest in

:54:31.:54:36.

the solar region economy. -- to invest in the Solent region economy.

:54:37.:54:44.

I am glad to hear about regeneration and it is part of good news in his

:54:45.:54:50.

area where the claimant count is down 25% in the last year, thanks to

:54:51.:54:55.

local businesses and to the work he has done as a new MP is attracting

:54:56.:55:00.

investment into his constituency, and I am glad he likes the red book

:55:01.:55:04.

of the government and does not have so much time for the little red book

:55:05.:55:12.

brandished by those opposite. During the Autumn Statement the Chancellor

:55:13.:55:17.

removed vital buses and support the student nurses. I have spoken with

:55:18.:55:21.

nurses and some of the students and all have said they would not have

:55:22.:55:27.

been able to have studied nursing without vital bursary support. What

:55:28.:55:33.

will you say about those who might be prevented from pursuing their

:55:34.:55:37.

dreams? Currently, we have a situation where two thirds of the

:55:38.:55:41.

people in England who applied for nurse training are turned down. That

:55:42.:55:46.

cannot be right and it means hospitals increasingly rely on

:55:47.:55:52.

agency or overseas nurses. We are reforming the education of nurses so

:55:53.:55:55.

that those who apply for nursing places are more likely to get.

:55:56.:56:03.

Carlisle and Cumbria has experienced a traumatic few days with the

:56:04.:56:08.

floods. It was good the Prime Minister saw first-hand the

:56:09.:56:13.

tremendous work of the emergency services and the issue surrounding

:56:14.:56:16.

flood defence and the impact of those floods on families. As part of

:56:17.:56:25.

the recovery, Cumbria foundation, it has launched a flood appeal. I wrote

:56:26.:56:30.

to the PM asking for government support for the appeal as it would

:56:31.:56:34.

help many affected people in the county. With the Chancellor be able

:56:35.:56:38.

to offer such support from the government towards this much-needed

:56:39.:56:44.

fund? I think everyone will pay tribute to the people of Carlisle

:56:45.:56:49.

and the resilience they have shown and the acts of friendship

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neighbours have shown to those affected by these terrible floods.

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The Prime Minister, before he left for Central Europe, asked me to make

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sure we would be able to help on the point of my honourable friend

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raises, which he raced with the Prime Minister, and I can say we

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will support the work the Cumbrian foundation does and will match by up

:57:10.:57:13.

to ?1 million the money they are raising for their local flood

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appeal. When the Chancellor triples student

:57:20.:57:23.

tuition fees he set the repayment threshold at ?21,000. He has frozen

:57:24.:57:28.

that threshold and the Institutes of fiscal studies say many students

:57:29.:57:33.

will bear many extra thousands in repayments. Given he has broken his

:57:34.:57:37.

promise, will he send students of apology, or just a Bill? There seems

:57:38.:57:43.

to be a collective amnesia on the other side they introduce tuition

:57:44.:57:53.

fees. -- introduced. And when they introduced tuition fees, the payment

:57:54.:58:00.

threshold was ?15,000. We have increased it to 20 1000. That

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enables us to fund the lifting of the cap, so more people who are

:58:05.:58:09.

qualified go to university. I would have hoped on this day, he would

:58:10.:58:14.

welcome the big investment we are making into Cambridge, not least the

:58:15.:58:16.

renovation of the Cavendish laboratory. The Hastings link road

:58:17.:58:25.

will finally open, delivering a business park, new homes for a new

:58:26.:58:27.

labour market and a countryside park. This has been talked about the

:58:28.:58:32.

decades but been commissioned to build on the last five. Will he join

:58:33.:58:37.

me in welcoming new business to relocate to Bexhill and Hastings and

:58:38.:58:43.

to expand? I would encourage businesses to locate to his area and

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he is right about the link road. For decades, people have called for it.

:58:49.:58:53.

For all those years it is true there was a Conservative MP for Bexhill,

:58:54.:58:58.

but there was a Labour MP for Hastings in many years and nothing

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happened. Now we have Conservative MPs in both areas we get the

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investment it needs. On the 7th of September, the Prime Minister told

:59:12.:59:16.

me he could not remove refugees from the migration target because of the

:59:17.:59:20.

requirements for the office national statistics. I wrote to the ONS and

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they told me it would be possible. Will the Chancellor demonstrate

:59:28.:59:30.

Britain will do its bit and remove refugees from the migration target?

:59:31.:59:44.

First of all,... Let's hear the Chancellor. I'd tell you something

:59:45.:59:50.

surprising, we talk to each other in this government. The cabinet get

:59:51.:59:56.

round and have meetings and stiff discuss things and we agree and move

:59:57.:00:00.

forward. They should try it in the Labour Party. On the honourable

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lady's question, the ONS is independent but Britain is doing its

:00:08.:00:12.

bit by taking the 20,000 refugees from Syrian refugee camps and we

:00:13.:00:15.

have always provided a home to genuine asylum seekers. Under

:00:16.:00:25.

current Tory regulations, small children can be engulfed in flames

:00:26.:00:30.

by three centimetres in one second. Will the Chancellor speak to the

:00:31.:00:34.

Prime Minister and ask if he will intervene with the Business

:00:35.:00:37.

Secretary to see if we can bring in a statutory instrument to improve

:00:38.:00:42.

flammability for children's play and dress costumes? I think my

:00:43.:00:49.

honourable friend is right to raise this case and we all saw the tragedy

:00:50.:00:53.

that befell the family of the Strictly Come Dancing presenter and

:00:54.:00:59.

the campaign her family have undertaken to change the

:01:00.:01:04.

regulations. It is true we don't have the same regulations for fancy

:01:05.:01:09.

dress costumes for children, which seems wrong. The Business Secretary

:01:10.:01:13.

is looking at it and we will make sure it changes. Will the Chancellor

:01:14.:01:17.

take this opportunity to correct the bizarre claim made yesterday by

:01:18.:01:23.

Donald Trump about parts of London being no go areas for the

:01:24.:01:27.

Metropolitan Police? Will he point out there are excellent

:01:28.:01:30.

relationships between the Muslim communities of London and the

:01:31.:01:35.

police? I think the honourable gentleman speaks for everyone in

:01:36.:01:39.

this House. The Metropolitan Police do a brilliant job and they have

:01:40.:01:42.

fantastic relations with British Muslims and British Muslims have

:01:43.:01:47.

weighed a massive contribution to our country. Donald Trump's comments

:01:48.:01:51.

fly in the face of the founding principles of the United States and

:01:52.:01:55.

it is one reason why those principles have proved an

:01:56.:01:58.

inspiration to so many over the past 200 years. The best way to defeat

:01:59.:02:05.

nonsense like this is to engage in robust, democratic debate, and make

:02:06.:02:16.

it clear his views are not welcome. Cornwall Hospice care, one Hospice

:02:17.:02:27.

is in my constituency. Well appreciated and respected by

:02:28.:02:30.

constituents. The issue they have is they cannot run to capacity because

:02:31.:02:35.

they only receive 11% of funding from NHS funding. When he worked

:02:36.:02:39.

with me and colleagues in Cornwall to see what more money we can put

:02:40.:02:43.

into our hospices and Cornwall Hospice care? I know my honourable

:02:44.:02:49.

friend is a strong champion of his community and for the hospice he

:02:50.:02:55.

talks about. We have taken steps to help the Hospice movement, not least

:02:56.:02:59.

removing VAT paid in the last parliament. We want the right

:03:00.:03:04.

balance. It is a good thing hospices are funded in part by local

:03:05.:03:08.

charities and supported strongly by the community. They need the backing

:03:09.:03:12.

of the NHS and we are putting money into the NHS because we have a

:03:13.:03:15.

strong economy so they can help the Hospice movement. If business rates

:03:16.:03:26.

are localised without equalisation, my authority, Gateshead, Bulls lose

:03:27.:03:31.

?9.4 million a year and that is on top of already severe revenue

:03:32.:03:36.

support grant cuts proposed. The seven north-east authorities will

:03:37.:03:41.

lose 186 million a year and the combined 12 authorities in the

:03:42.:03:47.

north-east, ?223 million. City of London will gain 222 million and

:03:48.:03:54.

Westminster, 440 million. Is this the vision of the northern

:03:55.:04:00.

powerhouse? The top up and tariff system will of apply as

:04:01.:04:05.

powerhouse? The top up and tariff business rates to reflect

:04:06.:04:09.

discrepancies he identifies. I would think the Labour Party would support

:04:10.:04:11.

devolution of business rates. It think the Labour Party would support

:04:12.:04:16.

an opportunity for local areas to grow and see benefits of back growth

:04:17.:04:20.

and when it comes to the northern powerhouse we have the fantastic

:04:21.:04:23.

announcement of the new train franchises which

:04:24.:04:26.

announcement of the new train billion going into new trains,

:04:27.:04:30.

faster journeys and better journey experiences for people in the north.

:04:31.:04:36.

He should get behind it. Today there was an important report that said

:04:37.:04:40.

the TV debates at the general election were a success, engaging

:04:41.:04:45.

people not normally interested in politics,

:04:46.:04:48.

people not normally interested in Would the acting Prime Minister, and

:04:49.:04:51.

I know he may have a personal interest in this, be encouraging TV

:04:52.:04:59.

debates at the next general election? The TV debates are decided

:05:00.:05:07.

by a discussion between the parties and broadcasters. I think the Prime

:05:08.:05:12.

Minister did exceptionally well in them last time. It is my

:05:13.:05:21.

understanding the Home Secretary has banned 84 hate preachers entering

:05:22.:05:25.

the UK. Will the government to lead by example in considering making Mr

:05:26.:05:32.

Donald Trump number 85? The best way to confront the views of someone

:05:33.:05:39.

like Donald Trump is to engage in a robust, democratic argument with him

:05:40.:05:43.

about why he is profoundly wrong about the contribution of American

:05:44.:05:46.

Muslims and indeed British Muslims. That is the best way to deal with

:05:47.:05:51.

Donald Trump and his views, rather than trying to ban presidential

:05:52.:05:52.

candidates. PMQs

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George Osborne. Angela Eagle began with the floods, the biggest

:06:09.:06:10.

domestic story by far and there was domestic story by far and there was

:06:11.:06:15.

some argument about how much the government has spent on flood

:06:16.:06:19.

defences. The Chancellor announced he was making ?50 million available

:06:20.:06:24.

for people hit by the floods in the flood areas. She then moved on to

:06:25.:06:29.

Europe and wanted to know how the negotiations were going but did not

:06:30.:06:34.

quite get an answer on that. And then there was some argy-bargy over

:06:35.:06:37.

what Tony Blair had said in an interview and what Donald Tusk had

:06:38.:06:42.

said in a letter. I am not sure it got is very far. I have not seen the

:06:43.:06:51.

Labour backbenchers enjoy themselves for quite some time, they were even

:06:52.:06:59.

smiling. Not just Labour backbenchers, the viewers enjoyed

:07:00.:07:03.

it. David said, more jokes from Miss Eagle then the variety show. Barry

:07:04.:07:11.

said I like Angela Eagle. It would appear Miss Eagle is more popular

:07:12.:07:18.

than her leader. Com Dent and professional Miss Eagle, boring Mr

:07:19.:07:31.

Osborne. -- confident. In fact, I think the Chancellor was trying not

:07:32.:07:35.

to laugh when he stood and answered the question. It was like PMQs in

:07:36.:07:43.

days gone by. Both appeared to be well prepped and had jokes ready to

:07:44.:07:49.

go. Both have statistics on particular issues and on the point

:07:50.:07:52.

about flooding, this is something which is not dominated Westminster

:07:53.:07:56.

this week but by goodness it has dominated lives in northern England.

:07:57.:08:01.

-- my goodness. In traditional style PMQs, that was the obvious thing for

:08:02.:08:06.

Angela Eagle to go on today. I wondered if Jeremy Corbyn would have

:08:07.:08:15.

chosen this. The negotiations continue and the Prime Minister

:08:16.:08:18.

continues his tour around Europe and that is preoccupying the

:08:19.:08:21.

Conservatives ahead of the summit next week. Angela was in great form

:08:22.:08:25.

and use humour as well stop Mr Osborne coped. I don't think you

:08:26.:08:32.

could describe it as a stellar performance by the Chancellor. He

:08:33.:08:36.

did find coming he had his bags ready to go coming he looked

:08:37.:08:40.

comfortable. He was not commanding but he was comfortable at the

:08:41.:08:44.

dispatch box. In a way that is no surprise because before he rose to

:08:45.:08:50.

become an MP and became part of the ministerial office, he was part of

:08:51.:08:54.

the prep team for previous Conservative leaders for years. We

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forget that. PMQs is such a focus at Westminster, but preparation often

:09:01.:09:03.

begins on Tuesday and goes on for hours and hours. This is a big

:09:04.:09:08.

preoccupation for both sides. Actually, that is what sometimes

:09:09.:09:16.

makes some parties despair because it takes up lots of time. Great fun

:09:17.:09:20.

for the viewers and an important session to hold people to recount

:09:21.:09:24.

but no surprise that George Osborne is comfortable in that environment

:09:25.:09:27.

because he has been up close and personal with it for some time. And

:09:28.:09:32.

you have the money, look where the money is stop why are Labour MPs at

:09:33.:09:38.

their happiest when Jeremy Corbyn is not there? That is not fair. You

:09:39.:09:46.

have not seen them happier! Jeremy Corbyn's PMQ performance have been

:09:47.:09:51.

good. He has brought a new style to it. Backbenchers don't smile and

:09:52.:09:57.

laugh as they did today, that is clear. Most of the time they look

:09:58.:10:02.

miserable. It is a completely different style, actually stop

:10:03.:10:06.

Angela has adopted a more traditional style today and has done

:10:07.:10:10.

it very well indeed, bringing humour and scrutiny in that more combative

:10:11.:10:16.

traditional way that PMQs is delivered. Jeremy Corbyn should

:10:17.:10:21.

learn from it. He has adopted a different and threshing style. Quite

:10:22.:10:26.

a lot of the general public and punters like that as well, he has

:10:27.:10:32.

kept PMQs very calm and asked very specific questions which have come

:10:33.:10:39.

from people about important topics so he has adopted a more serious

:10:40.:10:42.

tone and that is reflected in the backbenchers. The backbenchers

:10:43.:10:47.

prefer more of a traditional style that the public preferred the Jeremy

:10:48.:10:52.

Corbyn style. Have you been cutting flood defences? No, we have not, we

:10:53.:10:56.

have increased money for flood defences. In the last Parliament, it

:10:57.:11:02.

was 1.7 billion and in this Parliament it is over 2 billion. I

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would like to say that I have attended the Cobra meetings since

:11:07.:11:10.

Sunday, and it has been devastating what has gone on in the north of

:11:11.:11:16.

England. We can see that from the pictures and human despair and

:11:17.:11:19.

anger. I was watching one interview where a woman burst into tears on

:11:20.:11:26.

television. Indeed, the interviewer said he was sorry for upsetting her

:11:27.:11:33.

and said he would speak to when he has back. -- when he handed back. It

:11:34.:11:42.

is not far from where I live. Lancashire and Cumbria. We have had

:11:43.:11:49.

the edge of the storm in Manchester and it was an unprecedented amount

:11:50.:11:54.

of rain in a short period of time. I think what many communities will

:11:55.:11:57.

feel is that we go from the same cycle every time, where we get warm

:11:58.:12:00.

words from the government immediately afterwards which is then

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not followed through, and the most striking figure that was raised at

:12:07.:12:12.

PMQs today was that from the 2013-14 floods which mainly hit the South

:12:13.:12:17.

West of England, only 15% of homes had received the money they were

:12:18.:12:25.

promised then. Only 15% a year on which is terrible. Exactly. So we're

:12:26.:12:30.

not getting this aborts to be built quickly enough. We say the right

:12:31.:12:34.

warm words afterwards and we look like we can get ourselves through

:12:35.:12:41.

our programme or PMQs, but we actually need to get that many to

:12:42.:12:45.

people faster so they can get their businesses back on their feet.

:12:46.:12:52.

Particularly at Windsor. Yes. -- winter. I have been away but you

:12:53.:12:59.

have been following this. In a way, there is something familiar about

:13:00.:13:03.

this row. As ever, it it depends on how you count it. There was an

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emergency extra cash that went in last years that has been a drop in

:13:08.:13:11.

what was spent last year he gets it was a one-off special amount of cash

:13:12.:13:14.

but the government is adamant it is spending more over time. If you park

:13:15.:13:19.

all of that, very often, politicians get into trouble over this, what

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happens after? A crisis happens, they get their wellies on, they go

:13:24.:13:27.

up and looked like they are taking it seriously. It is often the

:13:28.:13:32.

delivery of what comes through later that makes people cross. One other

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thing worth noting this week is important and interesting. Lives

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said it was part of climate change. -- Liz. Not every politician does

:13:45.:13:58.

that. It absolves the government in not spending enough on flood

:13:59.:14:03.

defences. The IPCC says in its report that it does not have the

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scientific knowledge to predict with a high degree of confidence that

:14:08.:14:13.

these extreme weather invents are links to climate change. -- events.

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To deal with the first point first, you are right. What we have done

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this time around, following this crisis, is the very clear. Greg

:14:23.:14:29.

Clark is specifically asking that all of the pots of funding for

:14:30.:14:32.

different bits of support should be merged into one and as the

:14:33.:14:37.

Chancellor said, the money will be made available to local authorities

:14:38.:14:39.

said the money can get two people really quickly, and we are talking

:14:40.:14:43.

about what we can do to get things back on their feet by Christmas.

:14:44.:14:47.

There is a real recognition that we need to do more but coming to your

:14:48.:14:51.

point on climate change, we would never attribute and events to

:14:52.:14:54.

climate change directly because you cannot be precise. She is saying it

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is consistent. What is the difference? One event is not

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necessarily attributable to climate change. You would expect to see more

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and heavier rainfall and that is what we have seen. These floods are

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half a metre higher on average than the previous downfall. Civet is

:15:16.:15:20.

climate change? That is consistent with what you would expect from

:15:21.:15:25.

climate change. -- so it is. I am not claiming that, I am saying... I

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am being very clear, what we are saying is that no one event is

:15:32.:15:35.

directly attributable to climate change because there could be other

:15:36.:15:38.

reasons. The weather can be very unpredictable. It is unpredictable.

:15:39.:15:45.

You would expect see heavier rainfall and the potential for

:15:46.:15:51.

bigger floods. Lives trusted Beverly seemed to credit climate change in

:15:52.:15:59.

the house. -- Liz Trust definitely. Is it true that Diane Abbott tried

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to mimic your accident in the Shadow Cabinet? Not quite! She tried but

:16:05.:16:11.

was not very good. Sort of stop Diane has her own special approach

:16:12.:16:16.

to these things that usually loses hope the room, shall we say? Shall I

:16:17.:16:22.

have a word with that? You can try if you

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have a word with that? You can try accident? She had no chance! --

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accent. Now to Donald Trump,

:16:30.:16:32.

the wannabe Republican presidential candidate, who just

:16:33.:16:36.

can't keep quiet. Yesterday he even provoked

:16:37.:16:37.

a transatlantic row with Britain after he said parts of London

:16:38.:16:41.

were so radicalised, David Cameron said it was wrong

:16:42.:16:43.

of Mr Trump to question the courage of Britain's police and attacked

:16:44.:16:50.

as divisive Mr Trump's call for a total ban on Muslims

:16:51.:16:52.

entering the US. Let's have a listen to some

:16:53.:16:54.

of Mr Trump's finest moments, Donald Jane -- Donald Trump! We will

:16:55.:17:13.

have a wall. A wall will be built. The wall will be successful and if

:17:14.:17:17.

you think walls don't work, all you have to do is ask Israel. Look at

:17:18.:17:26.

Paris, they did not have guns and they were slaughtered. If you look

:17:27.:17:30.

at what happened in California, they did not have guns and they were

:17:31.:17:34.

slaughtered. I think it would have been better if they had guns. We

:17:35.:17:40.

have places in London and other places so radicalise that's police

:17:41.:17:48.

fear for their lives. -- so radicalised that the police fear.

:17:49.:17:58.

She gets out and asks me ridiculous questions. You could see there was

:17:59.:18:03.

blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her wherever.

:18:04.:18:10.

You have got to see this guy. "I don't know what I said,

:18:11.:18:17.

I don't remember." He is going, "I don't remember,

:18:18.:18:19.

maybe that is what I said." Donald Trump is calling for a

:18:20.:18:25.

shutdown of Muslims entering Donald Trump is calling for a

:18:26.:18:31.

United States until our government can figure out what the hell is

:18:32.:18:32.

going on. I guess it shows British and

:18:33.:18:42.

American politics can be very different. It certainly does. To his

:18:43.:18:49.

advantage? I cannot imagine many people in Britain are aligning

:18:50.:18:53.

themselves with those comments. 100,000 have signed a petition

:18:54.:18:59.

saying he should not be allowed to come to this country because of what

:19:00.:19:06.

he said. You can understand that. Most of what he says is awful and

:19:07.:19:11.

dangerous. It whips up a fear that for a small number of people they

:19:12.:19:18.

might share. Would you ban him? It is not so much about him being a

:19:19.:19:23.

residential candidate. I am a child of the 80s and I remember Frankie

:19:24.:19:28.

Goes To Hollywood being banned and it shot them to number one. He

:19:29.:19:33.

courts controversy, he is saying this to get himself at the top of

:19:34.:19:38.

the news. If you try to ban it, you raise it to the top of the news and

:19:39.:19:43.

give it more airtime. We have two defeat his views by having robust

:19:44.:19:49.

debates about them, rather than pretending they don't exist. Andrew,

:19:50.:19:56.

you have just come back from New York and have heard the reaction.

:19:57.:20:02.

His poll ratings seem to go up. Yes and maybe they have gone up in

:20:03.:20:06.

the latest poll in Iowa, where the first caucus will take place in the

:20:07.:20:17.

New Year. It dominated the air waves. It dominated the papers. It

:20:18.:20:25.

was a premeditated... It... Donald Trump has a habit of speaking off

:20:26.:20:29.

the top of his head, this wasn't this time. You have to see it in

:20:30.:20:34.

context. It followed the terrible events in San Bernardino, where a

:20:35.:20:40.

Muslim citizen, along with the wife he had brought in, met in Saudi

:20:41.:20:45.

Arabia, created this terrible rampage. And then what was regarded

:20:46.:20:51.

as a lacklustre performance from the president, from the oval office on

:20:52.:20:55.

Sunday night, when even on the left wing shows they were saying he did

:20:56.:21:00.

not do too well. I think Donald Trump saw his chance. He has to keep

:21:01.:21:06.

stoking the fire. He needs to keep on saying things. He has attacked

:21:07.:21:12.

Mexicans, the disabled, within. I guess it was only a matter of time,

:21:13.:21:17.

given the context, Muslims would be next in line.

:21:18.:21:25.

What was the reaction from people? On the conservative top radio shows

:21:26.:21:29.

he had a lot of support. On the left, they were appalled by it. Also

:21:30.:21:37.

be Republican establishment. The new Speaker of the house, appalled by it

:21:38.:21:45.

as well. Jeb Bush attacked him. He said he was unhinged. Jeb Bush,

:21:46.:21:51.

the establishment candidate, is down about 4% in the polls. The problem

:21:52.:21:57.

for the republicans is Donald Trump is sucking the oxygen out of the

:21:58.:22:02.

Republican campaign. It is him, him. I do not think he will win but on

:22:03.:22:06.

the other hand six months ago I would have said I don't think he

:22:07.:22:11.

would get as far as he has. He has turned out to be more formidable. It

:22:12.:22:17.

speaks to the lacklustre range of candidates the Republicans have to

:22:18.:22:26.

choose from. Jeb Bush, nowhere. Mark Rubio still trying to get cut

:22:27.:22:30.

through. Until they get a credible candidate, Donald Trump will call

:22:31.:22:31.

the shots. Now, it's 20 years ago this week

:22:32.:22:33.

since Philip Lawrence, a headmaster, was stabbed to death

:22:34.:22:36.

outside his school in North London. For today's Soapbox, Edward Adoo,

:22:37.:22:39.

who was a pupil at Mr Lawrence's school, remembers his former teacher

:22:40.:22:42.

and asks what has been done since to tackle the issue

:22:43.:22:45.

of knife crime. This week is the 20th anniversary

:22:46.:22:55.

of Philip Lawrence's murder. Philip Lawrence was my former

:22:56.:23:00.

headmaster here at St George's, Philip allowed me to consider

:23:01.:23:02.

a career in broadcasting by setting But when he helped a pupil

:23:03.:23:06.

who was being attacked by a local gang,

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Philip was stabbed and later died. His death shocked the nation

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and raised the questions Last year, Ann Maguire was attacked

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by one of her pupils at her school in Leeds and she died

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from knife wounds. In Bradford, Vincent Uzomah

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was stabbed in the stomach, But knife crime goes way

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beyond the school gates. and Wales, knife crime rose

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for the first time in four years. Later stats show there has been

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a 15% increase in knife attacks. In London alone, there has

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been a 20% increase. So far this year, 15 young people

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have died from knife And they get stabbed

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outside or inside schools. It's all about raising

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awareness and making sure Possibly introducing security

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guards in classrooms. The days of the playground scrap

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or street brawl are over. It's not a punch-up,

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it's a blade-up. Philip Lawrence died 20 years ago

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and not enough has been done It's time for us to get together

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to campaign to stop the stabbings. And Edwards joins us. Airport style

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security sounds drastic. Do you think that would be the right

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measure on the basis of the statistics that schools

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particularly? You have to stop it. It is an epidemic and it is not just

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a London thing. We have had a case of Aberdeen, Bradford, Leeds. It is

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across political issues but more needs to be done. We need to engage

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with role models, perhaps mentors, musicians. It would be great if you

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and Michael Gove could go to an estate on a Saturday night and speak

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to people on the streets and say, why are you involved in knife crime?

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What is going on? The social issues, in London, it is about

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gentrification, people being moved out of London, being moved to

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Birmingham, Luton, places like that. We need to find out why it is

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happening. I think we have ignored it. 19 deaths in London. That is

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knife crime in general. In schools, would you want people with metal

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detectors, even though the incident, of course, with Philip Lawrence,

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outside the school gates. People in schools affiliated to gangs, it goes

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to the crux of it. If there is a scrap in the classroom and someone

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says, I will do you after school, it is not a punch-up will stop they

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will get their gangs and it escalates. It is down to education

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and protection. Not just for pupils but for teachers. The government

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wants to scale back stop and search mainly because they said it was

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unfairly targeted on black men. Because of the number of knife

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incidents, a 20% interest increase in London, is stop and search a

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useful tool? It should be targeted on everyone. Whether the families of

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people connected, whether they are Kosovan, Somalian, wherever, it is a

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problem that affects all people. A gentleman told me today he had a

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case of a knife crime incident and it was connected... It was a faith

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issue. We need to get all types of people together to discuss this.

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Would you like to see security guards outside secondary schools

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with metal detectors? Of course we would not like to see that. That is

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not what education should be about. We have to look at all of these

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issues. I think going deeper into some of the root causes, in my

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constituency, a big part is Moss Side, which 20 years ago was driven

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by gun crime and gangland problems. Moss Side is a completely different

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place now. You have to engage the community.

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There's just time to put you out of your misery and give

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We will see what will Our winner from

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The one o'clock news is starting over on BBC One now.

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I'll be here at noon tomorrow with the big political stories

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as BBC Two brings you some inspiring cultural treats -

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Keeping Andrew Neil and Jo Coburn company throughout the programme are energy and climate change minister Andrea Leadsom and shadow education secretary Lucy Powell. As well as full coverage of Prime Minister's Questions they look at the ongoing row over Cameron's EU renegotiation bid and speak to broadcaster Edward Adoo about how to deal with knife crime.


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