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11/01/2016

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Hello and welcome to the Daily Politics.

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Labour's annual income could fall by ?6 million as a result of legal

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changes to party funding being debated in the Lords today.

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An internal Labour document says changes to its funding

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from the unions could leave the party unable "to maintain

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its current structure, staffing or offices".

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Another member of Jeremy Corbyn's front bench team resigns,

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this time it's the Shadow attorney general Catherine McKinnell,

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citing "concerns about the direction" of the party.

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Four months to go until London gets a new Mayor.

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The gloves are off between the two main contenders.

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We'll be reviewing the contest so far.

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The first junior doctors' strike in 40 years is due to start at 8am

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They are an essential service so they should not mess around with

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schedules. They are paid clap, it is not right.

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All that in the next hour and with us for the duration,

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Conservative MP, Mims Davies and Labour MP,

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and Shadow Economic Secretary, Richard Burgon.

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Now, first this morning the authorities in northern France

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are taking action to improve conditions for migrants.

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In Dunkirk, a semi-permanent camp will be established.

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In Calais, part of the migrant camp - known as "The "Jungle" -

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is to be cleared and replaced with a facility that will eventually

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A good idea? A sensible plan? Doing something has to happen because so

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many people are attracted to this area and living in conditions which

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nobody wants to see. It is sensible we look at something but really I

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want to see these people in countries where they want to be,

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where they are supported properly, and ultimately, we as a country are

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able to maintain our borders and make sure that we are not seeing

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people continue to flock to France, and we are working actively with

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France to make sure those people and we are working actively with

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with humanely. You said it should be resettled in countries where they

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like to be and if that happens to be Great Britain, should that be

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allowed? I spent many weeks on the recent immigration Bill, taking lots

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of evidence with many people with different views on this and the

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concern about the way we are perceived, we need to get

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immigration right, and I think this will is maybe going to deal with

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people who feel we are the soft touch and on our doorsteps, able do

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not feel we are getting it right. Does that not mean we should not

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take more migrants? We're not taking any Syrian refugees, other than

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those from camps. Those from Calais, should we take them into the UK? We

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have a plan that is working and have settled people from camps, and it is

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dangerous to keep allowing people settled people from camps, and it is

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come across from Europe, in difficult conditions, because that

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is a better place to be, in their own countries. We have so many

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unaccompanied minors and they have to be dealt with. Is it a magnet if

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you set up a permanent facility or a semipermanent facility, does it

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become a magnet for more people to come across and make dangerous

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journeys to try and get into Great Britain? Firstly, the conditions in

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the refugee camp in Calais are horrific. I have friends who have

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gone over there to help and no human being should be allowed to live in

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that condition. 8000 people are in Dunkirk, and 5000 people are in

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Calais. This is much smaller than the refugee crisis after World War

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II, so it is important to remember people are fleeing persecution. You

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would want to see them rehouse in Great Britain? We need to take

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shared responsibility and the true to our humanitarian values and help

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people who are in desperate need of help was not family people would you

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take? It is not a question of numbers but firstly, the government

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was not prepared to take enough people, we were not propelling our

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moral duty, but because of public opinion, the government increased

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the number of people that they were going to allow to come to Great

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Britain, and I do think we need to take our fair share across Europe,

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and we need a France-UK agreement about how to help these people

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living in awful conditions in the refugee camps.

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The question for today is all about Jeremy Corbyn's Twitter

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account, which last night was apparently hacked and began

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broadcasting a series of rather unusual messages.

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Among them was one about the Prime Minister.

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Was it a) An evil monster b) A jolly nice chap

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At the end of the show, Mike Guest here will give us an answer. -- my

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guests. A confidential document set out the scale of Labour's funding

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crisis. The document seen by the Guardian says Labour's annual income

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could fall by ?6 million a year after legislation going through

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Parliament. The document said it would be impossible to maintain its

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current structure, staffing or offices. The Bill, being debated

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today, would seek union members having to opt in to pay a levy is

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part of their fees. Labour believes around 3 million fewer members would

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do so, slashing its income. Ed Miliband introduced changes to the

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rules which were already set to reduce contributions from union

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members. The government is also planning to cut short money.

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That is the funding opposition parties got to help with their

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Parliament to duties. It would further cut Labour's income by about

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?1.3 million a year. We did ask the Department

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for Business for an interview but no Joining me now is the Shadow Justice

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Secretary, Lord Falconer. It is but got to be done with

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writing, within the next three months, and the system has worked

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well over a long period of time. The last time people tried to change it

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was immediately after the General strike when the Tory government

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tried to do it then. It is obviously motivated by an attempt to reduce

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the amount of funding coming to Labour, and it is entirely

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consistent with the other changes that have been referred to. It is

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not just about signing up to a political levy, it is also trying to

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break agreements between employers and unions whereby money is taken

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out of somebody's wages with their agreement and given to the union. It

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looks to me very much like it is motivated by trying to reduce the

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amount of funding that is coming to Labour. You are desperately worried

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about a loss of funds because that is important. I am talking about the

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physical system in this country. That is the key issue here. Do you

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think it is right that the amount of funding coming from the unions to a

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political party should be attacked in legislation? I do not,

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particularly with something that has worked for so long. People can still

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opt in, why is it being attacked? It is a transparent system. There is

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not an attack on that ability of unions to give money to the Labour

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Party, they can still do it. Exactly, it will be more difficult.

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If you make things more difficult and impose unnecessary bureaucratic

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requirements, that reduces the number. You are absolutely right

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when you say that the intention is to make it more difficult, not

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fairer. Why, and I ask this rhetorically, why attack the

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operators, which is where employers and employees agree it should be

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done. I can think that the only reason for attacking the check off

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arrangements is in the hope of less money being available. You have

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referred to this in your opening, the short money is being reduced.

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The short money is money made available to political parties,

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opposition parties, to try and help them properly oppose the government,

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and it is something that all political parties have agreed on for

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years and years and years. Why would you want to reduce the money

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available? Hang on, let's just stick with the funding views, we've come

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onto money. Ed Miliband introduced changes to rules around trade union

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affiliated funding where it would be a case of people opting in, so why

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can that not be used in the same way as political funds? What is being

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talked about is whether a union has a political fund. What Ed Miliband

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was talking about and I enthusiastically agree, is that if

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the money is to come from Labour, then individual member should agree

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to that. Why shouldn't they agree? Why shouldn't they actively do it,

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opting in? Yes, it is more difficult and more transparent, and it shows

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that people want the money to go to Labour. You are upset because of

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what is seen as easy political funding for Labour which will go

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down. You are not addressing the point I am making which is that the

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written agreement has to be to a political funds and secondly, why

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attack the agreement is reached between employer and employee, which

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both sides agreed to? Because what you are doing is putting up

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particular bureaucratic difficulties to try and reduce the money going to

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Labour. How much less will Labour received? You look at the front page

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of the Guardian and it gives a figure of ?6 million, is that what

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you think will happen? I don't know but I know that if you make the

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bureaucratic processes more difficult that will inevitably leads

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to less people giving money, and... You have a bigger membership, more

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people have joined the party since Jeremy Corbyn became leader. What

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are you worried about? Are you not scaring people into saying the

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Labour Party will not be able to fund its own act it is best might

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you do not know. I am making the point... I do not know the precise

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figure, you are right that I know it is wrong to simply pass a piece of

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legislation because although you purport to make it for one person,

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your real purpose is to try and reduce the effect of the opposition

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on the government. Are these sorts of measures not taken on a

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cross-party basis and this has been totally abandoned by the Tory

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government? The cost of politics has to come down as a whole and we will

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talk about that shortly but I don't think there is anything wrong with

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being able to opt in, that is not bureaucratic. I opted in and became

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a member of the Tory party and it was easy. If you want to be

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involved, you should have the ability. Historic employer -employee

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agreement, maybe people don't feel that. Should be done online? --

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should it. If you want to join a political movement party, you should

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be able to think about it. You don't if you just think it is more about

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your employee rights and how you work. You know, it may feel slightly

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different to whether you want to be a member of the Labour Party and

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many are probably question thing that right now, so it is a perfect

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time. I mean, no balancing measure is being taken, is it? To cap

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donations to the Tory party, and I'm sure my other guests would say, what

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is being done to cap the individual donations from hedge fund managers

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or rich bankers, who it is said they would exert pressure on the

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policymakers? It is very difficult to get support in politics. Are you

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attacking the Labour Party? No, it is difficult to bring money in

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because people don't necessarily believe in politics the way they

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used to, so I think absolutely we need to make it clear how you are

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involved, make it very clear where the money comes from, and make it

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clear that when we are making savings in all areas

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clear that when we are making asking each area to look at their

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own, and... asking each area to look at their

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good thing that there is a huge asking each area to look at their

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Conservative Party and partly asking each area to look at their

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because of the measures taken, when general elections ago, there will be

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a reduced amount of money? general elections ago, there will be

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democracy. I hear you... general elections ago, there will be

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it is therefore you, and general elections ago, there will be

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to opt other hedge funds and a jaw somebody who sends me ?25 because

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they believe in the Conservative Party, that option should be

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available to everybody. Isn't it an Party, that option should be

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anachronism that the five big union still have such large political

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funds anyway at their disposable that then people can say that you

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are using that money to exert political pressure on the Labour

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leadership? I want working class able involved in politics, that is

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not an anachronism. That is not answer my question. The issue is

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this. It is not just attacking the ability of unions to become involved

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in the Labour Party, it is attacking the ability of unions to be involved

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in anti-racist campaigns. One campaign was funded by trade unions

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and played a key role in beating the BNP and they are very worried about

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their future because of this measure.

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What about the fact that have large political funds that are

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used to pressurise, as some people see it, Labour leadership into

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passing policy that they would support? I do not want to see trade

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unionists taken out of the political process. I think this comes down to,

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do we believe, that it is important to have an opposition that is funded

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properly and can hold a government to account. Winston Churchill

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believed you should not interfere with the other political parties'

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funding arrangements. I agree with that principle is well and I am

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disappointed that the Conservatives are parting from that principle.

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Where is that in the Conservative manifesto? I would have to dig that

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out! I do not think it is in the manifesto. Coming back to you

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finally, would this be overturned? You would have to... The Lords would

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not reject the whole bill, they will make changes to the bill to make it

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fair, to make the political process work better, because I think it is

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an attack on the political process. Stay with us.

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In the last hour it's been confirmed that another member

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of Jeremy Corbyn's shadow team has resigned.

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Catherine McKinnell, who was the Shadow Attorney General,

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wrote to Jeremy Corbyn to say she was standing down mainly

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However, in her letter, she also says she is concerned

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"about the direction and internal conflict within the Labour Party"

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and her fear that this is taking it down

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Well, the Labour leader was on the Today programme

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this morning and was asked about his recent reshuffle:

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It's never easy, and that I have gathered because I've read

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the diaries of many former leaders, and there's never a good time to do

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it, and according to every expert at Westminster,

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reshuffles are always planned to take place in a few hours

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and then take a few days and that I fully understand and appreciate.

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We have a Shadow Cabinet that is strong, we have a team

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that is strong, the party membership is very strong and so we have

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widened the Shadow Cabinet to represent the diversity

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of the country and diversity of the membership of

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the Parliamentary Labour Party, so I am happy with it,

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we are moving on, doing a lot of campaigning and getting ready

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Well, that was Jeremy Corbyn. Does it feel strong to you, the shadow

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Cabinet? There has been another resignation from Catherine McKinnell

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who says she is worried and concerned about the direction of the

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party. The shadow cabinet does feel strong. It is a very strong and

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diverse team. I was only told as I was coming into the studio about

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Catherine McKinnell's resignation. She was an effective Attorney

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General -- Shadow Attorney General. She had given important advice over

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the last few months. She cites family reasons and she has recently

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had a baby and she has done an incredibly good job. She does cite

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family reasons, that is in the letter as she said, but she also

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says she finds it negative and actually, the direction of the party

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at the moment, rightly or wrongly, is something that she is worried

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about. What do you say to her? I think is important that the party

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faces outwards against the Conservative Party and the other

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political parties, and that is what the Labour Party is determined to

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do. Do you think it is failing to do that at the moment because of the

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infighting? John McDonnell said those who resigned after the

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reshuffle were part of a narrow right-wing clique within Labour, and

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some of the protest group were hard right. I did think it is right that

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we should be talking about each other. I think we should be talking

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about the Conservatives. I do think that a reshuffle, like any reshuffle

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inevitably becomes a flash point for difference, but we have got to move

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on from there. Was he wrong to say that? I don't think any of us should

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be attacking each other. Do you think Charlie Faulkner is part of

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the hard right? Not at all. The thing is, whatever the media

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reports, all Labour MP and Labour Lords agree 99% of things. Does not

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look like that, if you have the shadow Chancellor, not over Syria or

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Trident, these are major decisions, they don't agree, that is fine.

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Jeremy Corbyn says he wants to have a debate that it is not true that

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the party agrees 99% when you take just those big issues? On anti-cuts

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policies, the vast majority of Labour MPs agree. Why did he call

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the three that resigned a narrow right-wing clique? We need to be

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looking outwards, that is what Charlie said. The vast majority of

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Labour MPs agree on the vast majority of things. There is nothing

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unusual about members of a political party having disagreements. The

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Conservative Party on the European Union are in fundamental

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disagreement with each other. They are, but is it helpful for people

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like John McDonnell in the position he's in, to start accusing members

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of his own party and members of the shadow cabinet team of being right

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wing? There are people on the left of the Labour Party and to the right

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of the Labour Party. Labour is a broad church and should be. What

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about Trident? Is it inevitable in your mind that the current Labour

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Party policy on Trident will be changed? The policy will be

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reviewed. It is being reviewed. In the last Labour Party manifesto we

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said we would renew Trident. We are now working towards the next

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manifesto. Labour MPs have different views on that. I am for not renewing

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Trident. Charlie is for replacing Trident but we don't fall out about

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it. I'm asking about inevitability because following the reshuffle,

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Maria Eagle who would like to renew Trident has been moved, in order to

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reflect an anti-Trident view from having Emily Thornberry there. Is it

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inevitable in your mind now that Maria Eagle has been moved, that

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Trident will not be renewed as Labour Party policy? In Democratic

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processes, there is nothing that is inevitable. Let's see what decision

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is made when the Democratic process takes place. I agree with what

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Richard has said. Really? Who will be campaigning to renew Trident? It

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will not be renewed now that we look at who is in charge of defence

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policy in Labour? I agree with what Richard has said. There is a process

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in the Labour Party. There are members who prefer renewal. Why was

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Maria Eagle moved? That is a matter for Jeremy Corbyn. What Richard has

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said is absolutely right, it is for the party to decide what our policy

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is. If the policy is changed by the end of the summer, as Ken

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Livingstone has said he would like it to be, will you still be part of

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the shadow cabinet team? Lets see where we get to in relation to that.

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I am in favour of the renewal of Trident. I have made that clear just

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as Richard has made it clear he is against it. This issue has been

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present in the Labour Party for a very long time. I will not start

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speculating about whether the party will change its policy. You must

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know in your mind about what you will do if it does. I will not start

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speculating on the telly. Why not? I think the right thing is to have the

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debate in the party. Thank you. Now, let's take a look

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at what the political week As we've been hearing, this evening,

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Labour's Parliamentary Party meets It's the first time Labour

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MPs have come together And the UKIP leader,

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Nigel Farage heads to Wales where he'll be debating Britain's

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membership of the EU with the First Minister

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of Wales, Carwyn Jones. Tomorrow, junior doctors are due

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to go on Strike for 24 hours in a dispute with the Government

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over pay and conditions. In the afternoon the Prime Minister

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appears in front of the liason committee, where he'll be grilled

:24:15.:24:17.

about Syria and climate change. And the Housing and Planning Bill

:24:18.:24:20.

returns to the House of Commons. On Wednesday, David Cameron

:24:21.:24:23.

faces Jeremy Corbyn across the Despatch Box

:24:24.:24:25.

for their weekly dose of PMQs. And later that day, President Obama

:24:26.:24:27.

delivers his annual State of the Union address,

:24:28.:24:29.

the final one of his Presidency. Let's talk now to Isabel Hardman

:24:30.:24:32.

from the Spectator Kevin Maguire, first of all, what

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will it be like at tonight's meeting of Labour MPs, the PLP? Will it be

:24:47.:24:52.

harmonious? No, it will not be harmonious. Labour MPs are very

:24:53.:24:59.

divided at the moment. We have seen after the resignation of Catherine

:25:00.:25:05.

McKinnell and the reshuffle, Labour have got this power problem. Jeremy

:25:06.:25:09.

Corbyn was backed by the members and yet he's still not master of his own

:25:10.:25:13.

shadow cabinet front bench team and most MPs do not support him. Maybe

:25:14.:25:17.

he will try and contain it, there will be a lot of nervous nerves, a

:25:18.:25:22.

few jabs rather than a full out assault, but Labour is not

:25:23.:25:27.

harmonious at the moment. It is not just Trident and it is not just

:25:28.:25:31.

Syria, and it is not just foreign policy issues, it is a kind of

:25:32.:25:34.

feeling among a lot of MPs that Jeremy Corbyn does not have what it

:25:35.:25:40.

takes to win a general election. His supporters insist he has. Isabelle

:25:41.:25:47.

Hardman, what is the feeling that you get ahead of this PLP meeting

:25:48.:25:53.

this evening? I think Jeremy Corbyn is not going so may become a

:25:54.:25:58.

discussion among different factions. Was he not expected to go? I think

:25:59.:26:02.

we have been expecting for a few days that he would not go to this

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one. I think on the session is outside of the PLP will be what to

:26:08.:26:13.

do next. There is a sense among junior frontbenchers that it may not

:26:14.:26:16.

be worth continuing to serve under his leadership that those in the

:26:17.:26:19.

shadow cabinet say it is the best thing for the party to stick in

:26:20.:26:23.

there, to try and influence policy on Trident, rather than to leave and

:26:24.:26:29.

leave it to Corbyn's dies. On Trident, talking to Richard Burgon

:26:30.:26:32.

and Charlie Faulkner, there is a process to go through, do you think

:26:33.:26:37.

it is inevitable that party policy will change on Trident? No, I think

:26:38.:26:43.

the party conference will have the final say. The big unions, Unite and

:26:44.:26:50.

GMB are in favour of Trident. They have tens of thousands of members in

:26:51.:26:55.

relatively well-paid jobs building that submarine system. They don't

:26:56.:26:58.

believe claims they will be given other jobs. If you go through that

:26:59.:27:05.

system, it will not get through. Labour is committed to renewing it,

:27:06.:27:08.

it is German Corbyn who is at odds with the party policy. If you can

:27:09.:27:12.

change how Labour makes policy, cutting the unions out which is what

:27:13.:27:20.

Tony Blair did, he might get it then, but I feel there is no shift

:27:21.:27:28.

in the trade unions at the moment to back getting rid of Trident. He is

:27:29.:27:32.

in a power struggle with some of the people who backed him in the

:27:33.:27:37.

election for the leadership. Let's talk about the EU referendum.

:27:38.:27:40.

Listening to the Prime Minister yesterday, it seems it is clear his

:27:41.:27:45.

preferred timetable is wrapping up negotiations in February and holding

:27:46.:27:49.

a referendum in June or July, is that how you see it? That timetable

:27:50.:27:54.

may slip and he has made it clear he is happy to let it slip in order to

:27:55.:27:58.

get a better deal which suggests he suspect there may be some delay,

:27:59.:28:02.

particularly with Angela Merkel is not attending the Davos summit which

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I think will slow things up in some people's minds. That may mean the

:28:08.:28:11.

referendum cannot take place until September because you cannot hold it

:28:12.:28:17.

over the summer. If there is a migrant crisis again over the

:28:18.:28:19.

summer, the Prime Minister may judge it is not a good idea to hold it

:28:20.:28:24.

straight after that so we could see further delay to next year. What

:28:25.:28:28.

about the party holding together over the issue of Europe? The

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Conservative Party has always been divided. How would you rate David

:28:33.:28:39.

Cameron's chances? Zero. You cannot do it. He says the members can

:28:40.:28:46.

campaign against him. He does that out of weakness. Giving them a free

:28:47.:28:50.

vote makes it look like Jeremy Corbyn in posing iron discipline

:28:51.:28:55.

over Syria when he allowed his shadow cabinet to go different ways.

:28:56.:28:59.

Most of the MPs are getting to a point where the majority of Tory MPs

:29:00.:29:05.

will vote to come out. He is not going to hold his party together.

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Whatever that result, the other side will not accept it. It is one of

:29:10.:29:13.

Labour's best chances in the run-up to the next election, that the

:29:14.:29:17.

Tories will once again to hurt themselves apart over Europe. On the

:29:18.:29:22.

doctors strike, Isabelle briefly, how difficult is this now for the

:29:23.:29:28.

government? It has escalated to an extent that nobody is wanting to

:29:29.:29:32.

back down. In the end, do you think a compromise will be reached on the

:29:33.:29:36.

government side? I think neither side trusts the other. Conservative

:29:37.:29:44.

MPs are now no longer prepared to say that the government has handled

:29:45.:29:48.

the striped Italy well. Most people are saying I can see we could have

:29:49.:29:52.

done this better so that is not a good vote of confidence on the

:29:53.:29:57.

conservative side -- they have not handled it particularly well.

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Now, at 8am tomorrow morning, up to 38,000 junior doctors

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will drop their stethoscopes and stage a 24-hour strike

:30:05.:30:06.

across England, in a dispute over new contracts that would allow

:30:07.:30:09.

hospitals to rota more weekend staff.

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It's the first mass walkout of medics since the 1970s

:30:11.:30:13.

and doctors' leaders and government ministers have accused each other

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So what do the public think about it?

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We are just hours away from a junior doctors strike.

:30:20.:30:25.

Junior doctors said the government plans for a seven-day NHS,

:30:26.:30:28.

fully staffed, will put patients at risk.

:30:29.:30:31.

Are people with them or against them?

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Footballers kick a ball for 90 minutes and get paid lots

:30:35.:30:40.

but doctors work overnight and they get paid nothing.

:30:41.:30:45.

The NHS was being cut back all the while and staff

:30:46.:30:51.

are being made to suffer, more pressure is being put

:30:52.:30:53.

They work very hard and don't get a lot of the support and respect

:30:54.:31:06.

Take a ball and pop it in the support box.

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I suppose being near Saint Thomas's Hospital,

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it was inevitable we would get some doctors and patients

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but it is interesting which way round their views are.

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We are late for a hospital appointment.

:31:18.:31:19.

Are you for or against the junior doctors strike?

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It is not just doctors, they will target all

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It is easy for MPs, they work 9-5, they have a 60% pay rise.

:31:29.:31:38.

We work our as is off for our patients.

:31:39.:31:40.

I really care for our patients and I think it is a very wrong way

:31:41.:31:44.

The government is saying is is better pay.

:31:45.:31:48.

The doctors are saying it is worse pay.

:31:49.:31:50.

To be honest, a seven-day national health is what we need.

:31:51.:31:53.

At the weekend, and you have a problem, you cannot

:31:54.:31:55.

The junior doctors strike tomorrow, are you broadly in favour

:31:56.:32:05.

Because they are an essential service and you should not mess

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The NHS is already struggling. I think it does dramatically affect

:32:11.:32:28.

pay and it is shameful to pretend it is not important. As a junior

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doctor, take the ball and pop it in the support box.

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We always say this and we shared. It is not scientific, its location may

:32:45.:32:52.

have helped, but it is very clear that more people are in support of

:32:53.:33:01.

the junior doctors than our against. There you have it, according to our

:33:02.:33:05.

very scientific mood box. The majority of people back the junior

:33:06.:33:09.

doctors. It is right, we should support them, and letting them

:33:10.:33:15.

continue to do unsafe ours is not supporting them, and exploitation is

:33:16.:33:20.

that this government is trying to look at. In terms of the changes to

:33:21.:33:24.

the way this happen, I am disappointed. People are upset at

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being at this point, and if you want to see a doctor tomorrow, you will

:33:32.:33:36.

be concerned. Let's hope some sanity prevails, and hopefully, everybody

:33:37.:33:41.

can come back to the table and avert this. 11% overall is mainly how

:33:42.:33:46.

people will be better off. There will be the majority of doctors in a

:33:47.:33:50.

better position. Sadly, what ever happened in terms of a communication

:33:51.:33:55.

breakdown is concerned. On the government side as well? From my

:33:56.:34:00.

understanding, and I have had junior doctors coming into my local

:34:01.:34:05.

surgeries, and when I have spoken to them, they did not have a full

:34:06.:34:10.

handle on this. I hope that before people go on strike tomorrow, they

:34:11.:34:14.

are clear on how it affects them. Has the government handled it well?

:34:15.:34:19.

In a strike, everybody will say no, but we are not in that position,

:34:20.:34:24.

there are some hours to go, but I think there is an impasse here, and

:34:25.:34:27.

ultimately we should not be allowing them to do 70 or 80 hours a week in

:34:28.:34:31.

that kind of role without support. The government needs a look at it.

:34:32.:34:40.

You don't support the strike? Looking at the individual situation,

:34:41.:34:43.

I would not like to see the strike. They have valid concerns? Yes,

:34:44.:34:47.

speaking to some doctors, I'm not sure they have the full. Let them

:34:48.:34:54.

look at that fully tonight. Do you support the doctors going on strike?

:34:55.:34:59.

I believe they have no other option. They have been treated appallingly

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and if I was in my constituency, rather than in Parliament tomorrow,

:35:04.:35:06.

I would be on the local picket line. I would encourage viewers to go down

:35:07.:35:11.

to the picket line and asked junior doctors why they feel they have had

:35:12.:35:15.

no other option than to go on strike. It troubles me when she says

:35:16.:35:19.

that these junior doctors do not have a full handle on it. It

:35:20.:35:23.

troubles me when Jeremy Hunt was saying in the House of Commons that

:35:24.:35:27.

they did not understand. These are educated people and they have not

:35:28.:35:32.

been misled by the BMA. They know that they have been backed into a

:35:33.:35:36.

corner. For the first time in 40 years they feel necessary to go on

:35:37.:35:43.

strike. It could put patients' lives at risk. The action by the BMA, it

:35:44.:35:48.

is set, will lead to patients suffering. -- it is said. All

:35:49.:35:54.

essential life-saving operations will take place. Not in that all

:35:55.:35:59.

essential life-saving operations will take late to stop -- not in

:36:00.:36:08.

February. People's lives will not be put at risk by this strike. Is it

:36:09.:36:19.

responsible for the momentum linked to Jeremy Corbyn's leadership

:36:20.:36:27.

telling activists to turn out on the picket line tomorrow, isn't that

:36:28.:36:30.

really a return to the militants days of the 1980s? What I said was I

:36:31.:36:37.

encourage viewers, the public, to visit picket lines and asked junior

:36:38.:36:42.

doctors to the natural why they are going on strike. There is nothing

:36:43.:36:51.

wrong or strange for members of the public to take cups of tea and cake

:36:52.:36:56.

down to the picket line and asking junior doctors what they think. That

:36:57.:37:01.

is the key thing. We have heard what politicians, Jeremy Hunt, think

:37:02.:37:03.

about it, let's hear from the junior doctors, and then make up your mind.

:37:04.:37:09.

Was the language used by Jeremy Hunt correct when he said he would impose

:37:10.:37:16.

these new contracts on junior doctors? It upset a lot of them on

:37:17.:37:20.

this programme. The language in this is important, and if that ultimately

:37:21.:37:25.

is what is pulling people apart, that is a problem. It is much

:37:26.:37:29.

broader than just language. Has it led to a breakdown in trust? There

:37:30.:37:34.

has not been a great deal of trust on both sides as has been mentioned

:37:35.:37:39.

from day one, but the reality is that if we want the seven-day NHS

:37:40.:37:43.

service... Doctors say that exist already. We need to make sure it is

:37:44.:37:52.

safe across the week and is safe for doctors, and... Should they have

:37:53.:37:55.

more money and funding? That is when they said they would consider these

:37:56.:38:00.

changes, if more resistors are put into the NHS. I think we committed

:38:01.:38:04.

where Labour couldn't and put the into the NHS. I think we committed

:38:05.:38:09.

money where our mouth is. Everybody wants changes in the NHS, an

:38:10.:38:13.

individual service, but ultimately, it is a big thing to turn

:38:14.:38:15.

the junior doctors are very keen in what gets delivered and it will be a

:38:16.:38:20.

real disappointment we cannot keep them on site. I want them to be in

:38:21.:38:25.

safe working conditions and I want them to feel supported

:38:26.:38:26.

safe working conditions and I want government and an 11% pay rise is

:38:27.:38:30.

safe working conditions and I want significant. The losing elsewhere

:38:31.:38:31.

because they won't be able to charge overtime rate. -- they are losing.

:38:32.:38:40.

They have to be very flexible, they have to stay on, you have to do all

:38:41.:38:45.

sorts, and ultimately, what we are offering them is a better deal about

:38:46.:38:48.

how to plan... Except they offering them is a better deal about

:38:49.:38:53.

seem to agree with that. There is a lot of evidence that patients who

:38:54.:38:57.

are admitted to hospital surgery lot of evidence that patients who

:38:58.:39:01.

have an 11% higher mortality rate at the weekend than during the week.

:39:02.:39:02.

That has to the weekend than during the week.

:39:03.:39:10.

service offered by junior doc is. -- doctors. Nobody proposes that things

:39:11.:39:15.

should remain the same for ever. The NHS after do a fantastic job but we

:39:16.:39:18.

always have to look at ways to improve it. The sad truth is that

:39:19.:39:22.

junior doctors have lost trust in the Tory government, that is a big

:39:23.:39:26.

deal. You are not going to further improve and NHS service... Should

:39:27.:39:34.

they be working at the weekend? A study in 2012 of 14 million hospital

:39:35.:39:39.

admissions, patients had a 60% greater risk of death on a Sunday

:39:40.:39:45.

than a Wednesday. You say there should be reformed, should they be

:39:46.:39:50.

expected to work more at weekends? Nothing is going to change if Jeremy

:39:51.:39:54.

Hunt and the Tory government acts like dictators to junior doctors to

:39:55.:39:59.

go into that job to help people and make people better. Should they work

:40:00.:40:03.

more at weekends? An agreement should be reached. Between the

:40:04.:40:10.

government and the BMA and junior doctors. The reason why it has not

:40:11.:40:13.

been reached is because junior doctors have lost trust in the Tory

:40:14.:40:17.

government and because the junior doctors have been treated with

:40:18.:40:21.

disrespect either government, that is my view and it is sad. Jeremy

:40:22.:40:29.

Hunt is a dictator, it is said. Having sat in his office, he wants

:40:30.:40:37.

to see a better NHS and where are the patients in this? Let's talk

:40:38.:40:40.

about them. Actually, if you do go into hospital at the weekend, and

:40:41.:40:44.

somebody has than 70 hours per week and is frazzled, we need to support

:40:45.:40:50.

these people, and we need to support all the people working in the NHS as

:40:51.:40:54.

people do expect a seven-day service, and otherwise as a

:40:55.:40:57.

government we are picking up the pieces of not getting it right or

:40:58.:41:00.

dealing with this issue. As Richard said, it is not going to go away.

:41:01.:41:04.

Every mother and father should have access to parenting lessons. That is

:41:05.:41:13.

according to David Cameron. He's just given a speech

:41:14.:41:15.

in which he claims he could have done with more advice raising

:41:16.:41:17.

children. The classes are part

:41:18.:41:19.

of a new package of measures which include more support

:41:20.:41:22.

for teenagers who suffer from eating disorders and more funding

:41:23.:41:24.

for mental health. This is what I would call

:41:25.:41:26.

a life-cycle approach. One that takes people

:41:27.:41:29.

from their earliest years through schooling,

:41:30.:41:31.

adolescence and adult life. And I believe that if we take

:41:32.:41:33.

the right action in each of these four areas, combined

:41:34.:41:36.

with what we are doing to bring our economy back to health,

:41:37.:41:38.

we can make a significant impact on poverty and on disadvantage

:41:39.:41:41.

in our country. This is part of a broad range of

:41:42.:41:52.

proposals that David Cameron has spoken about, but Norman Lamb, the

:41:53.:41:55.

former coalition Health Minister, said the proposals fall short of the

:41:56.:42:00.

vision we published as a Coalition Government in 2014. I am

:42:01.:42:05.

disappointed to hear that and I think 400 million into the health

:42:06.:42:09.

service, and the parity we are giving... Is it money? I hope so,

:42:10.:42:15.

and I think it is money in the right place because in my constituency

:42:16.:42:18.

office I have had various people with postnasal issues and problems

:42:19.:42:24.

with their teenagers who need support. -- postnatal. Would you

:42:25.:42:28.

agree with Norman Lamb that it would be smoke and mirrors on behalf of

:42:29.:42:33.

David Cameron if this is not additional resources into this area?

:42:34.:42:38.

It is worth questioning, I agree. Absolutely, if you need therapy,

:42:39.:42:42.

health, mental health services, beds, there should be something for

:42:43.:42:46.

you. When I have visited the Ambulance Services in Hampshire,

:42:47.:42:50.

they have mental health workers within their community building. We

:42:51.:42:57.

need that parity. Should there be parity? Should they be dealt with in

:42:58.:43:01.

exactly the same way, mental and physical health? Absolutely because

:43:02.:43:06.

otherwise as a community and families, we pick up the pieces,

:43:07.:43:11.

whether it comes to crime, family breakdown, harm, absolutely right.

:43:12.:43:18.

As pressures in life get bigger... You are questioning whether this is

:43:19.:43:21.

new money or not, Norman Lamb think it is not. ?140 million that the

:43:22.:43:28.

prime and is to revamp 100 estates, that they drop in the ocean. Having

:43:29.:43:34.

been a councillor, and seeing how we design housing differently to what

:43:35.:43:39.

we have now, it is recognition by the prime and is that we need to do

:43:40.:43:43.

things differently. Will ?140 million pay for the revamp of the

:43:44.:43:48.

estates? There was a lot you can do with community help and you do not

:43:49.:43:51.

need to spend a lot of money to make changes in communities. I have been

:43:52.:43:59.

involved in local litter picking. You cannot do that with ?140

:44:00.:44:04.

million. It does not need to be that expensive. If you give people pride

:44:05.:44:09.

in their community, take the bad issues away, it can make a change.

:44:10.:44:14.

Of course. Let's talk about the parenting but I am sure it will be

:44:15.:44:18.

targeted and make the right changes in the right areas. Doing nothing is

:44:19.:44:22.

not the right thing to do. Is should be a lot more if you tackle it

:44:23.:44:26.

properly. There is no free cheque-book. That is a great amount

:44:27.:44:31.

of money to put into a targeted area and in terms of mental health

:44:32.:44:36.

issues, I believe whether Prime Minister says it is going. Is it

:44:37.:44:42.

insulting to suggest that everybody needs parenting classes? No, I could

:44:43.:44:50.

do somes with some myself! -- with some. I am happy to go and I

:44:51.:44:54.

certainly know that having a first and second child, I know the

:44:55.:44:57.

challenges it puts on relationship, the changes where it comes to

:44:58.:45:02.

schools, the issues with social media that our children have, I

:45:03.:45:05.

think we need to look at how we parents better. We are dealing with

:45:06.:45:10.

the impacts of not great parenting. Should be more targeted then?

:45:11.:45:18.

It is no bad thing to say this is something there is no textbook for.

:45:19.:45:26.

All children are different. Let's share our ideas. What next you and

:45:27.:45:30.

the government so confident that people will take up this offer. You

:45:31.:45:35.

may be right that everyone needs parenting classes. You have piloted

:45:36.:45:40.

it before but only 4% of eligible parents took it up. Dead they say

:45:41.:45:50.

you can bend a stick much easier than a large oak. -- don't they say?

:45:51.:45:54.

Will people take it up? I think if everybody is doing it. If it is

:45:55.:45:59.

targeted, it is that you are the problem and you might be a rubbish

:46:00.:46:04.

parent. The social media aspects, the bullying and pressure that our

:46:05.:46:08.

kids have that I never had, I certainly want to know how to manage

:46:09.:46:12.

those issues and I will be in a room with anyone to do that. It sounds

:46:13.:46:20.

like the nanny state, especially from a conservative perspective.

:46:21.:46:24.

Would you support it? I think there is no greater responsibility than

:46:25.:46:28.

bringing a child into the world. Any response you can get is wonderful. I

:46:29.:46:34.

think about how things have changed since I was a child. Social media,

:46:35.:46:39.

online bullying, the way the world has changed, means that the help and

:46:40.:46:43.

advice that can be given now would not be the same advice you had 20

:46:44.:46:49.

years ago. So you would support the idea and open to everybody? I think

:46:50.:46:53.

it sounds like a welcome step. However, I think a lot of these

:46:54.:46:59.

things are linked. I was speaking to a GP in my constituency and he said

:47:00.:47:03.

all these things are linked. He has noticed an increase in mental health

:47:04.:47:06.

problems, as unemployment went up and job security went down and a

:47:07.:47:14.

lack of housing. Implement has not gone up? It has gone up

:47:15.:47:20.

historically. The lack of housing and council housing affects people's

:47:21.:47:23.

mental health so we need the government to look at the whole

:47:24.:47:27.

picture to address these issues. Thank you.

:47:28.:47:29.

The gloves are off in the race to be Mayor of London,

:47:30.:47:32.

and the fight's not looking that pretty.

:47:33.:47:34.

Let's take a look, starting with the Conservative's Zac Goldsmith

:47:35.:47:36.

What I was referring to when I described him as a radical

:47:37.:47:41.

candidate, as part of a radical process that has enveloped

:47:42.:47:44.

the Labour Party and taken our politics

:47:45.:47:45.

We have now an opposition party which is

:47:46.:47:48.

more extreme than at any time in my lifetime.

:47:49.:47:50.

You have got post-Paris particularly people being concerned

:47:51.:47:52.

at a rise in Islamophobia and anti-Semitism in the last year

:47:53.:47:55.

or so, to call somebody who is clearly of Islamic faith

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and with a name like Sadiq Khan,

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divisive and radical, to have one of your volunteers using

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pejorative language to describe me as that Muslim candidate

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It has got nasty. It was always going to get nasty. This is the

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closest we get to a presidential election. Londoners have anywhere

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can add to it this month. The candidates were out at the back end

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of last year but you are right, the gloves are coming off. We do not

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know when the referendum will be but we do know we will get a vote on the

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mayor. What is your hunch on it at this point? My hunch is Zac

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Goldsmith has got to outperform the party. If you look at what happened

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in the last election, London was one of the few places where Labour did

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well. You would say Mr Khan is in, he is in at City Hall. But we never

:48:53.:48:57.

went Boris Johnson was in this place first time around, he

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was eight or nine points below Ken Livingstone. He outperform the party

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and in the last election he radically outperformed the party.

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That is what Zac Goldsmith has got to do. The fact that people turn out

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in the boroughs of Croydon and Bexley, the ladies in particular and

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they go out and vote, will that happen? Is it again battle between

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inner and outer? I think it probably is. What you have to remember about

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the Zac Goldsmith is, if you go to his constituency in Richmond, those

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who know him, my god he gets the vote out. They virtually weighed the

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vote, that is how popular he is. If you have exposure to him, he is a

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strong candidate. He has not been out and about as much as Mr

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strong candidate. He has not been so he has probably got to get out

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there. Is it setting pulses racing, this contest? It is probably just

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for the village at the moment but it probably will. The line that will

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roar is housing. Kids getting on the housing

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roar is housing. Kids getting on the That will be the key issue. In terms

:50:06.:50:12.

of airport expansion for instance, where does that set someone like

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of airport expansion for instance, that Goldsmith with the party? As

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you know, the criticism of fudging the issue by airport expansion by

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the government is because people the issue by airport expansion by

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saying they're waiting to see the outcome of this particular contest.

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saying they're waiting to see the This has to be true. Remember know

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is, no buts, no third runway. I think the Prime Minister probably

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regrets those words. If there is a third runway, it

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regrets those words. If there is a If you have Zac Goldsmith in City

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Hall and then it is delayed, there will be one heck of a fight. It will

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be between Zac and will be one heck of a fight. It will

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Khan's relationship with the Labour Party and Jeremy Corbyn? I did think

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you will see a lot of Mr Corbyn alongside Sadiq Khan. Equally, I do

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think he will see Mr Cameron alongside Zac Goldsmith. If you look

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at the previous mayors, they are all mavericks. London likes Mavericks. A

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party man or woman ain't going to fly. Do you think

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party man or woman ain't going to mavericks? Zac can be a maverick. He

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stared down a Prime Minister. I think he's his own man. Don't know

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Sadiq Khan as well as I know Zac Goldsmith. He has a very strong back

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story. The son of a bus strive opposed to a multi

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story. The son of a bus strive financier. -- a bus driver. You are

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in the shadow Treasury team, what is your view? No one wants to see

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in the shadow Treasury team, what is businesses go down but I think Nick

:51:54.:51:57.

is correct when he says the big issue in this London mayoral

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election is the housing crisis in London. Housing prices have gone up,

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there are not enough council houses so people in London will have to

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decide, is it Zac Goldsmith or Sadiq Khan who are best qualified and best

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placed to solve the housing crisis in London. I believe that Sadiq Khan

:52:14.:52:17.

is best placed if you look at it objectively. You did not answer my

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question about business taxes. Do you agree with Sadiq Khan that there

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should not be further taxes placed on business? I did think he said

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that. He is against further taxes being put on business and wants to

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be the most business friendly mayor. Labour is not anti-business. The

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Treasury team is not anti-business. We need to make sure we have a

:52:46.:52:53.

thriving City of London, a thriving city that is properly regulated and

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responsible and the benefits of that economic success are shared by all,

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not only in London but across the country as well. In terms of the

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public interest, what will set it alight? When we start having the

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debates. The first one we did on LBC was called the risk in the lift when

:53:15.:53:18.

Ken Livingstone and Boris Johnson actively clashed. You know Boris

:53:19.:53:23.

Johnson as well as I do. He is a hugely fun guy, but imagine sharing

:53:24.:53:28.

the debate, Boris Johnson would not even engage with the other people.

:53:29.:53:34.

He was so hacked off. That gave it a lot of energy. They were really

:53:35.:53:41.

slugging it out. We need to see the two going at each other. That will

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get the energy going. Who are they actively hoping to get out there?

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Boris will be key. Boris is an extraordinary politician. He cuts

:53:59.:54:02.

through everything. I did a day in the life with Boris and what is

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fascinating, old fat middle-aged white men like me, young funky Asian

:54:07.:54:10.

guys, elderly black women, everybody Rafa nights -- gravitates. It is

:54:11.:54:19.

extraordinary the pulling power. Quite to cuts through for Labour, I

:54:20.:54:24.

cannot immediately think of a box office Labour politician. I did

:54:25.:54:27.

believe in celebrity politics. I think what is key is getting as many

:54:28.:54:33.

Labour activists out there, as many people in the London who support

:54:34.:54:37.

Labour and support Sadiq Khan. I think we need reminding of the

:54:38.:54:43.

opportunity for Zac Goldsmith to work the Conservative majority.

:54:44.:54:55.

Labour are in such peril when it comes to their own party. London is

:54:56.:55:02.

seen as they Labour city. Boris has not turned around the housing

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crisis. He is dealing with it. "Chameleon, comedian,

:55:04.:55:10.

Corinthian and caricature". That was David Bowie in his own

:55:11.:55:11.

words from the Hunky Dory album. This morning words such as legend,

:55:12.:55:14.

inspiration and genius were added People around the world have paid

:55:15.:55:24.

tribute to the British rock god who has died of cancer at the age of 69.

:55:25.:55:30.

Two who paid tribute were David Cameron and Jeremy Corbyn.

:55:31.:55:32.

Today we are mourning the loss of an immense British talent.

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Genius is an overused word, but I think

:55:36.:55:37.

musically, creatively, artistically, David Bowie was a genius.

:55:38.:55:39.

For someone of my age, he provided a lot

:55:40.:55:41.

of the soundtrack of our lives, from the first time I heard

:55:42.:55:44.

Space Oddity, to watching our athletes appear in those wonderful

:55:45.:55:46.

I think it's great we're spending time, just a few minutes,

:55:47.:55:53.

remembering a great musician and entertainer

:55:54.:55:55.

and somebody who represents all that is best

:55:56.:55:58.

in the fantastic cultural diversity in our country.

:55:59.:56:01.

I cannot think of David Bowie without thinking Life On Mars,

:56:02.:56:03.

and as soon is I heard of his death, very sad, Life On Mars

:56:04.:56:07.

Jeremy Corbyn there. One of the many tributes made today. He was iconic.

:56:08.:56:26.

Your memories of David Bowie? The soundtrack of the nation has become

:56:27.:56:30.

a lot duller. Before I came into this world I was a showbiz reporter

:56:31.:56:34.

for the Sun newspaper and I used to chase pop stars like Duran Duran,

:56:35.:56:38.

boy George and Madonna all around the world. Sometimes you write

:56:39.:56:42.

disobliging stories about people, sometimes you are rather disobliging

:56:43.:56:45.

in the reviews of their work, possibly who they are dating or you

:56:46.:56:47.

may take your journalistic licence a little

:56:48.:57:03.

too far. Once, because it was a slow news day, I suggested, because I had

:57:04.:57:05.

seen him having lunch with Eric idle, that David Bowie would become

:57:06.:57:08.

a Monty Python. This was that the Cannes Film Festival. I did not have

:57:09.:57:11.

much in the paper so we made this story up. It was stretching it and

:57:12.:57:13.

then unbelievably, news came through that David Bowie would grant you an

:57:14.:57:18.

interview. This was in the early 80s. You must have been overwhelmed!

:57:19.:57:24.

No one ever spoke to me! I sat down, what a great bloke. I was about to

:57:25.:57:31.

ask a question and he said, you are from the Son. You wrote a story

:57:32.:57:37.

about me suggesting I would be in Monty Python. Where did you get it

:57:38.:57:45.

from? He said, as long as it gets you through the night, fair enough.

:57:46.:57:49.

What do you want to ask me? What a great sense of humour! Was it

:57:50.:57:56.

the soundtrack of your youth? I was born in 1987 it is not break all to

:57:57.:58:00.

say the first memory of David Bowie was going to the cinema when I was

:58:01.:58:06.

six years old to see Labyrinth. I think one of his most overlooked

:58:07.:58:11.

albums was Tin cat macro machine, nice and heavy, from 1989. Tin

:58:12.:58:20.

Machine is a fantastic album. I'm sorry, I cannot give you a chance to

:58:21.:58:23.

talk about David Bowie. There's just time before we go

:58:24.:58:26.

to find out the answer to our quiz. The question was about

:58:27.:58:29.

Jeremy Corbyn's Twitter account What did the hackers

:58:30.:58:31.

called David Cameron. So Richard and Mims,

:58:32.:58:38.

what's the correct answer? A pie is the right answer. I don't

:58:39.:58:45.

know why. The One o'clock News is starting

:58:46.:58:49.

over on BBC One now. I'll be here at noon tomorrow

:58:50.:58:54.

with all the big political stories Now we can dance, if you would like

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to. A new BBC Two comedy panel show

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all about people. Each week, everyone we talk about

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will share the same names. Promise it's very simple -

:59:06.:59:07.

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:59:08.:59:10.

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:59:11.:59:18.

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:59:19.:59:26.

Jo Coburn with the latest political news and debate from Westminster, including threats to the funding of the Labour Party, the junior doctors' strike and the rock band Squeeze altering their lyrics to criticise David Cameron. Guests include Conservative MP Mims Davies and shadow treasury minister Richard Burgon.


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