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Morning, folks, and welcome to the Daily Politics.


David Cameron could face a tough ride in the Commons today.


The PM's making the case for his draft EU settlement deal


which he hopes will persuade voters to stay in Europe.


Not everyone's convinced, though, and plans to restrict welfare


payments to migrants have been dubbed "unworkable" by some.


Last night, the Home Secretary said the draft EU agreement


But some of her Cabinet colleagues aren't too sure.


Eurosceptic ministers are still gagged by the Prime


Before the PM's statement on Europe, there's another small


David Cameron faces Jeremy Corbyn across the despatch box at midday.


And in our soapbox today, the inconvenience of a lack


just having access to a clean hygienic public toilet is a simple


basic human rights. Time for some serious investment. Time to spend


more than a penny! All that in the next hour


and with us for the duration, a match


made in heaven. Deputy Leader of the House


of Commons, the Conservative MP, Therese Coffey and Shadow Leader


of the House of Commons, Now, do you know your red card


from your orange card, Morning, folks, and welcome


to the Daily Politics. David Cameron could face a tough


ride in the Commons today. The PM's making the case


for his draft EU settlement deal which he hopes will persuade


voters to stay in Europe. Not everyone's convinced, though,


and plans to restrict welfare payments to migrants have been


dubbed "unworkable" by some. Last night, the Home Secretary said


the draft EU agreement But some of her Cabinet


colleagues aren't too sure. Eurosceptic ministers


are still gagged by the Prime Before the PM's statement on Europe,


there's another small David Cameron faces Jeremy Corbyn


across the despatch box at midday. And in our soapbox today,


the inconvenience of a lack Just having access to a bog just


having access to a clean hygienic public toilet


is a simple basic human rights. investment, time to spend


more than a penny. All that in the next hour


and with us for the duration, a match


made in heaven. Deputy Leader of the House


of Commons, the Conservative MP, Therese Coffey and Shadow Leader


of the House of Commons, Now, do you know your red card


from your orange card, or indeed your emergency brake


from full frontal throttle Well, David Cameron will find out


what MPs think of the deal he's been negotiating to change Britain's


membership of the EU, when he discusses it


in parliament today. Europe's top officials published


a draft offer yesterday, but it's fair to say not


everyone's a happy bunny. The PMs deal has been lambasted


on the front page of nearly every national newspaper this morning,


the Sun and the Mail are particularly critical;


and if you believe everything you read, he's heading


for a bit of a meltdown So did Britain's most important


negotiator get what he wanted. David Cameron wanted a four-year


benefit ban on EU migrants... suggests a graduated access


to benefits from initial complete exclusion and increases over


the four-year period, with child benefits linked


to the standard of living in the country where


the child lives. The UK can also apply


for an emergency brake on welfare, but it's not completely


clear how that brake is pulled The PM also wanted protection


for non-eurozone economies, prohibiting discrimination


between currencies. Cameron wanted to get


Britain out of 'ever closer union' with


the European Union? that the UK is not committed


to further political integration The Prime Minister also


wanted the sovereignty of national parliaments


to be bolstered? - if 55% of national parliaments


club together EU law can be blocked. Some of the Cabinet


are reportedly not happy with the deal and are discussing


whether to break ranks But the President of


the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker,


speaking this morning in Strasbourg, Well let's talk now to the Ukip


leader, Nigel Farage, Let's talk now to our


guests in the studio and to the Conservative MP Liam Fox,


who's in Central Lobby. Well, after PMQs, the Prime Minister


will give a statement to the House MPs are expected to discuss that


until well into the afternoon. Labour's Kate Hoey,


and Caroline Lucas from the Green Now, as a public service broadcaster


it's our duty to inform, There are two things that can sway


the referendum, first can he get us a deal that will give more control


of a Borders and the second is the day because of the European Union --


the daily cost. That has not been discussed and if he honestly thinks


this emergency brake will persuade people on migration he is wrong.


Four years from now not only will we pay benefits to EU migrants at the


same levels as now on top of that our minimum wage will be going up to


a living wage. I think we can predict with confidence in four


years, people factors to Britain will be even greater than today and


that is why he's got a problem. -- the pulling factors. One problem was


persuading people like Theresa May, key members of his cabinet and she


zooms to back this deal as the basis for future negotiation. That has


been a success for the Prime Minister. In a way. He also has some


time until this summit to persuade other Cabinet ministers who might


have thought of joining your side. To reason may has always supported


the European Union through her career. She has never rebelled on


that issue. She has the worst immigration record are some


secretary of anyone in UK history. She gave one speech at the Tory


confidence when she talked about getting back control of borders,


everybody cheered, the Tory papers that she was the new Mrs Thatcher,


heroin. If she had been sincere in that speech, then she must campaign


for us to leave the EU because it's the only way to get back control of


our borders and put into place a points system on immigration which


is what the British public want. No Cabinet ministers have joined Leave


yet but even if, say, Chris Grayling, or Iain Duncan Smith or


Theresa Villiers or all of them join, would that make a massive


difference to the Leave campaign? Everyone in Westminster is obsessing


about which people will break ranks and support the Leave campaign. I am


not sure that politicians have as big a sway over the way people will


vote in this referendum as many commentators think. This political


class lied to us in 1975 about what the common market was about, they


did their best to get us into the euro, thank goodness, we stopped


them. I am less worried about which political figures join the Leave


campaign. Michael Caine on Radio 4 last week talking about why he


thinks Britain would be better outside the European Union, maybe


that has a bigger impact on the way people vote than whether one


minister comes in on it or not. So in your mind and would not make much


difference? Two all three will join Leave, maybe four on a good day with


a fair wind. They will be welcome and we need a proper cross-party


campaign, not just for ministers, we need Labour people and trade union


members. This is all across the board, not about left-wing


right-wing parties. It is about a key issue. From my perspective it is


the most important vote will have in our lifetimes. Benchmark is not the


going problem is not the problem there is not one that United Leave


campaign, and those that exist seem to be taking chunks of it each other


which is not your message. And angry about it. I have sat in a room with


one fellow director of Leave has put an offer on the table and said to


John Mills, who is the chairman of Vote Leave, let's merge the


organisations Camille can be the chairman, it's doesn't matter about


me, let's get together. And time after time the Vote Leave crowd


rejected those offers of coming together. I wonder if Vote Leave


really want to leave the European Union because they are not talking


about a double referendum strategy. It makes no sense. We need to have


one unified campaign. Basically two well-paid employees voting Leave


will hold up the process. On that, not much time left to bring them


together. You are calling for one group and no more, if the referendum


is in June you are running out of time. Ie Agree but I don't see any


circumstances in which these two well-paid employees will make a deal


which is why we launched the initiative for Though, we came on


your programme some weeks ago and we'll be on the platform in


Manchester for a second meeting. 12 people on the platform from across


the political spectrum, David Davis will be joining us on the evening.


Thank you, Nigel Farage. In a moment we will talk to our guests in the


studio, first, Liam Fox is in the lobby of the House of Commons. Liam


Fox, do you believe that the proposed settlement, if that is what


it turns out to be, at the summit, will it play much of a part in the


referendum campaign? It may play a part with voters who are genuinely


undecided. As I have said, for my part, the renegotiation did not make


a difference to my view because I had already decided that what we


were asking for was too little, so the only way to get back the powers


I wanted was to leave the European Union. The question will be for


members of Parliament, those who said, some more genuinely than


others that they will waiting for the results of the renegotiation,


know that they've seen the results, whether that will be enough for


them, and in the days ahead Ebor have to make up their minds because


it is a binary choice, referendum, you are either in favour of European


Union membership or not, you are in favour of Britain determining its


own borders or you want them determined somewhere else. People


will have to get up that fence. -- of that fence. Are you concerned, as


Tory polling seems to suggest, as the Prime Minister comes off the


fence and campaigns for Britain to stay in the EU, that that will swing


many Tory voters his way, not yours? We will have to wait and see what


happens when the documents are put before the voters. Rather than just


the Prime Minister, who is a single voice in this in terms of the


Cabinet, other Cabinet ministers may campaign for the Leave side and will


put with authority a different message. I would not put too much


emphasis on polling at the moment, if you look at polling on the


referendum it is all over the place. Given that the Prime Minister has


already begun to campaign to keep Britain in the EU, we saw that with


his speech in the West Country yesterday, do you think that


Eurosceptic Conservative Cabinet ministers should now come out and


give the other side of the case? It's a question of fairness and how


fairly we deal with both sides, how easy it may be after the referendum


to come together. If the deal is that nobody should campaign for or


against the deal until it is finalised at the European Council


that should apply equally to both sides. The Prime Minister is already


campaigning. If it is OK for one side to campaign in favour, natural


justice says the other side should have an equal chance. It's only a


short window, less than two weeks but there is an issue of fair play


here. Liam Fox. Thank you for joining us.. Therese Coffey, let's


look at this issue of sovereignty which artist is the many people in


your party. What is the difference between David


Cameron's red card and the Lisbon treaty's Orange card? We have made


progress in many areas and I would suggest that the Orange card, as you


say, is a query to the commission to think about it again. This extra red


card would effectively put a block on that legislation. The red card


doesn't put a block on it. Like the orange card, it asks the commission


to think again, to either maintain, amend, or withdraw but it is in the


power of the commission with both cards. My understanding is that


there will be more power to it. In the House of Commons tonight we are


doing one of these yellow cards on emotion. I think there is more to it


than what was in the Lisbon Treaty. -- on a motion. The settlement which


I have read says that you have 12 weeks as opposed to eight weeks


under the orange card to get together 56% of European


Parliaments, as opposed to 51% with the orange card, to ask the


commission to think again. What is the difference? I believe that it


has substantially more effect and this is why it matters. Are you


saying that the red card, if you can get these Parliaments into line, the


red card has the power to stop the commission? It has a more


substantial effect and what is in the Lisbon to do of requiring the


commission not just to say, we'll think about it and carry on, it goes


back to the council and the commission, which initiates


legislation so it is more substantial than what we have now.


How would you rate the chances of getting 56% of Europe's Parliaments


in line within a 12 week period? That depends on what the issue is. I


would say that the bigger consequence is the matter is that


the Prime Minister has progressed with, subsidiarity, applying that


further, and closer political union. So there's more of a challenge about


what legislation comes down the line. Is it credible given that you


all have different holiday periods and many of the government 's under


boating will have already voted for the issue, that you can get more


than 15 European Parliaments to defy their governments in a period of 12


weeks? Is that really a credible position? If it is a case of trying


to stop laws progress in which we believe are contrary to the


interests of the UK and we can work with other countries to achieve that


it is a minor detail as to when someone goes on holiday or not. But


if you want the votes of the other Parliament! The Polish problem and


cannot vote if it is on holiday. The four errors we have made progress


on, I will suggest that we will perhaps see fewer laws coming down


the line which we believe should be decided in the UK rather than in the


EU. That is the reference to increased used of subsidiarity. We


will reinforce that, I think. The Tory election manifesto promise


to stop child benefit for the children


to stop child benefit for the rates of those benefits for children


not resident in this country. But that wasn't what the manifesto


promised, it that wasn't what the manifesto


benefit. This is part of that wasn't what the manifesto


negotiation. If I were a Polish person paying the same taxes and


negotiation. If I were a Polish insurance in the UK, and I could not


get child benefit from the Polish government in


get child benefit from the Polish there is a conversation that has to


be had there is a conversation that has to


states. I don't think it is an unreasonable compromise. But it was


not what you're manifesto promised. The Tory manifesto also promised


that there would be no in work benefits for four years for migrants


coming to this country. Why have you broken that promise? That is


coming to this country. Why have you bit of the text where the years have


not been pencilled in. This is a live negotiation for lease the next


two weeks. Nobody is saying the deal has to be completed at the fabric


council. But the settlement talks about graduated payments, starting


from when you arrive. about graduated payments, starting


affect any migrants already here, but graduated payments which will


rise the longer you are here until you get to the standard rate after


four years. That is not what the manifesto promised, so why have you


broken that promise? You need to wait for the final deal before you


can get the weather we have achieved what we set out to achieve. The


Prime Minister has a record of negotiating. He has done it in the


past, and last year, nobody believed any of this would be possible at


all. We have made progress. The Tory manifesto also promised that there


would be no social housing for migrants coming until they had been


here for four years. Why is there no mention of that in the settlement? I


don't believe the initial paper that has gone to the other European


councils has gone into every consequence of every decision. This


is a principle -based document. We have made considerable progress. Not


long ago, people said there would be no chance of that. Is the Prime


Minister asking for no social housing for four years? We have seen


no mention of it in the settlement. I am not in the negotiations with


the Prime Minister. We did pass the EU act in the last Parliament, and


there will be referendums on other matters. We know if the European


Union wants to take more powers away from this country, we would have


that in the bank. We need to recalibrate the relationship for


things like the Schengen zone and the ever closer union. There are


important steps. Let me show you what William Hague said about the


idea of a red card in the House of Commons in 2008. They say, look at


the enhanced role of national parliaments which is set out in the


treaty. If a majority in half the Parliament of the EU object to an EU


measure, they might be able to block it. But once again, it does not take


much analysis to work out that the chances of that mechanism being


employed vanishingly small. It could be used only if 14


different national Parliaments, nearly all of which have


a Government majority, defeated an EU proposal,


and did so within We have only to consider that


for a moment, as Members of Parliament, to begin


to laugh about it. Given the difficulty of oppositions


winning a vote in their Parliaments, the odds against doing so in 14


countries around Europe with different parliamentary


recesses - lasting up to 10 weeks in our own case - are such that


even if the European Commission proposed the slaughter


of the first-born, it would be difficult to achieve such


a remarkable conjunction Mr Hague cannot have been right then


and the Prime Minister right now. He was saying it is difficult for an


opposition to challenge European law, and that is still the case. No,


he was saying it is impossible to get 15 European parliaments to block


a commission policy. He made the point that I made about holidays as


well and getting all the parliaments to meet. Now we are told that this


is the Prime Minister's men grab of a return of sovereignty. As I said,


I believe this has more impact than what was proposed under the Lisbon


Treaty. And I believe he was saying that from the prospect of an


opposition. Where you have a governing party, particularly our


government, who wanted a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, we didn't get


one because it had been ratified by the time we get to power, and


unfortunately Labour decided not to have one, we might have had a


different scenario. But we are having a referendum and it is for 60


million people to make that decision. Although you are


enthusiastic about what the Prime Minister is bringing back, you will


still campaign to stay in? I am a passionate pro-European. I believe


our destiny lies within the European Union. Watching Nigel Farage, he


can't help himself. The people's front of duty are fighting against


the Judaean people's front. They are all wearing green ties in the


Commons today. But they cannot unite around a common theme. In the end,


voters will have to decide. Is the total package of our membership in


our interests? And you think it is. We will come back to you. Just be


patient. Well, after PMQs, the Prime Minister


will give a statement to the House MPs are expected to discuss that


until well into the afternoon. Labour's Kate Hoey,


and Caroline Lucas from the Caroline Lucas, is this a deal you


can support? I never supported what he was trying to achieve through the


negotiation anyway. There are bigger issues at stake on as Chris Bryant


said. What is at stake is whether we believe we are better off working


with our European colleagues when it comes to trying to tackle the


biggest challenges we face, whether that is the environmental challenge


or international terrorism, I believe we are better inside the EU,


working with our colleagues to do that. To me, this renegotiation is


about David Cameron strutting his stuff to try to persuade his


Eurosceptic backbenchers. I do not agree with some of the premises he


has been trying to achieve. I think we should make a bigger case to say


that if we want a secure and better off Britain, there were to do that


is inside the EU. Kate Hoey, you will campaign for Britain to leave


the EU, but the deal, like it or loathe it, doesn't change Labour's


position of Chris Brant is not enthusiastic, but he will still


campaign in -- Chris Bryant. The Labour Party has never said what it


would like to see reform. It keeps talking about reform, but never says


what it would like to reform. I did not support the kind of things David


Cameron was asking for. I thought he would go for fundamental change. He


hasn't done that. The whole thing is a sideshow. Nothing is going to


change unless we can get back control of our own borders and we


get control of how we make our own laws, and unless we get back control


of this Parliament making decisions. All of this is a bit of frippery,


and I think the public are much more sensible, because they know what


they want. Kate Hoey, any sign of new Labour recruits to your side of


the referendum argument? You said recently that you knew one or two


shadow ministers were likely to campaign for Brexit. Are they coming


forward? Yes, AI think you will see shifts in the next few weeks,


particularly after the final negotiation. I do not think the


referendum will come in June, because it will not work out with


other issues. It is the public, in the end. MPs do not matter. Thank


you both. If I can make one point, one of the light that Nigel Farage


perpetuates that somehow, we were sold a lie in the 1970s and that was


all to be about trade. For a start, I always thought that trade is part


of politics. It is subject to political rules. Secondly, if you


look at the speeches back then, it was clear that the formation of the


EEC and then the European Union was all about saying we were a war-torn


continent, and it was a price worth paying to sit through boring


meetings in Brussels and Strasbourg and to pull a bit of our sovereignty


so that we could achieve greater prosperity across the whole of the


union and that we would end up, in my lifetime, Spain, Portugal and


Greece were under dictatorships and will never be so again. Pooling


sovereignty was a phrase that Ted Heath would never have used in the


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just take a look at Big Ben - It is a difficult day in Parliament,


Questions is on its way. It is a difficult day in Parliament,


because you It is a difficult day in Parliament,


Minister's statement on Europe, when there will be lots of questions.


What does Mr Corbyn do? It is always a balance on these kinds of days,


because political leaders want to look relevant, but there is no point


in labour trying out all the arguments they might


in labour trying out all the statement that follows. So this


morning, the Westminster is that Jeremy Corbyn


will pose questions on health, not talking about Europe. He has done


that from time to time. We have seen it on lots of occasions, like on the


day of the junior doctors' strike. And Jeremy Corbyn chose to talk


about housing on that day. We have seen two modes of Jeremy Corbyn at


PMQs evolving. To start with, it was all on issues the


PMQs evolving. To start with, it was suggesting. Last week with Google,


he was suggesting. Last week with Google,


hot button that the government was in trouble with. Today, I think we


will see Corbyn Mark one. But Downing Street disappointed by this


morning's front pages, or did they expect to get a kick in? They knew


there was going to be a punchy attitude. They are watching the


papers carefully. It is not clear where the Sun will end up where the


Daily Mail or Telegraph will end up. In a sense, it doesn't matter with


FrontPage is like that. Nobody reads the editorials Thomas Davies front


pages. -- they don't read the editorials, they read the front


pages. But as the Sun said about the deal, the FrontPage stank for Number


Ten this morning. It is whether those newspapers decide to do ten


pages every day all the way through until the referendum. If Jeremy is


doing health today, that would be right because the majority of


voters, Europe is not in the top ten for them. Immigration might be, but


they are far more concerned about health and jobs. But immigration is


the top of many voters' concerns, and that is the part of the deal


that David Cameron has problems with. Yes, the ink is not dry. The


ink has not even been filled in on the deal. But it is clear that the


manifesto is much younger than the draft deal is. Let's go to PMQs.


In addition to my duties in this house holed I shall have further


meetings today. Jon. Mr Speaker, is that it, is that the best the Prime


Minister can do? Nothing for British pensioners? Nothing for British


workers and as the Office for Budget Responsibility and the Treasury have


confirmed, his long-term economic plan is reliant on over 1 million


new migrants entering this country before 2020! Has the Prime Minister


got the bottle to confirm this inconvenient truth? I'll tell you


what we are doing for pensioners, a triple lock on pensions. Never again


be 75p rise that they got from the Labour Party with prices and wages


at two and half percent. What we are doing from people who work hard in


Britain is create 2.3 million more jobs since I became Prime Minister.


Of course I believe we will succeed more as a country if we get a good


deal in Europe and stay in a reformed Europe. It will be good for


jobs, for investment, for growth and that is what I'm fighting for.


Marcus Fish. People in my constituency, Yeovil, are rightly


proud of their contribution to the defence of this country, whether


through the skill and redness of the fleet arm at your fill all the local


high-tech industry making and maintaining helicopters and


equipment for ships and aircraft and those who serve on them. In the


current circumstances of increasing security challenges and


responsibilities and a worrying lack of commitment to defence in many


European countries, I welcome the leadership, the government has shown


in committing to spend 2% of GDP on defence and I ask whether my right


honourable friend will meet with me to discuss ideas that I have two


build on local capability. My friend friend is absolutely right that your


fill makes a huge contribution to the defence of our country, not


least through Augusta Western, a big dish business. We are committed to


spending ?178 billion on defence equipment over the next decade,


something we can only do because we have a strong economy. We are


committed to that 2% and will make sure the money is well spent and


making sure we have the right equipment for our brave Armed


Forces. Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Tomorrow, Mr Speaker, is


world comes a day. Cancer is a disease that almost every family in


this country has been affected by. Two and a half million people in


this country have cancer. There are members on both sides of this House


who have or have received treatment. 1000 people every day diagnosed with


cancer and go through a trauma as soon as they are diagnosed. Accent


in the last year there's been a 36% increase in the number of people


waiting more than six weeks for vital diagnostic tests. Could the


Prime Minister two something to bring that down? First I agree with


the right honourable gentleman that the fight against cancer is one of


the great fights of our time, one we are determined to win. When we look


at the way we treated in this country we are putting an extra ?19


billion into the NHS and specifically while he is right,


everyone in this House and every family will know somebody affected


by cancer, we are treating more patientss. The figures. Compared


with 2010, over 645,000 more patients with suspected


cancers have been seen, an increase of 71% and almost 40,000 more


patients have been treated. An increase of 17%. We have more


doctors, nurses, more cancer specialists but the fight against it


is something we need to continue with. Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker,


early diagnosis is essential when dealing with cancer. I think we all


know that from personal experience. The government 's independent task


force into cancer reported last year, and I quote, we currently have


a serious shortage of radiologists in England. We need more of them so


could the Prime Minister explain why we are cutting by 5% the number of


training places available for therapeutic radiographers? We need


more radiologists and we are getting them because we are putting more


into the NHS. Where he is right is that waiting times, a moment ago the


right honourable lady was shouting about waiting times, there are three


key targets on them. First that people should be seen by a


specialist within two weeks of an urgent GP referral, and we're meant


to be on 93% of occasions, we are currently on 94.7, we need to make


sure that the first treatment comes within 31 days of diagnosis, that's


very important, there's a 96% standard and we meeting that by


97.7%. Yet I accept that when it comes to the first treatment within


62 days the standard is 85% and we are at 82.5 so we must improve. With


training, we are increasing training places in the NHS, we discussed


nurses last week where we are opening up nurse training by making


sure that we train an extra 10,000 nurses but the crucial point is that


the money is there in the NHS because we've got a strong economy.


?19 billion of money which would never be there if we followed his


crazy economic plans! Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker, my question was on


therapeutic radiographers. The Prime Minister did not answer on that.


Without an improvement in the numbers available there will be a


problem with treatment, that must be obvious to everyone. The cancer task


force also asks, and I could, for a radical upgrade in prevention and


public health. Programmes like stopping smoking and anti-obesity


absolutely essential to stop the spread of cancer and indeed to help


people live better lives so they don't develop cancer at all. Yet if


we cut, as he proposes, ?200 million from the Public health budget,


surely that is going to lead to an increase in cancer, with all the


trauma that goes with it, and indeed the greater cost for the rest of the


community. Could he explain why he is making this cut? First of all,


but to diagnostic radiographers, there are 1800 more diagnostic


radiographers than when I became Prime Minister in 2010. As for the


interests... That is a 15% increase. The reason that there is an increase


is that we said that we would put more money into the NHS, a real


terms increase, something we were told by the then Shadow Health


Secretary was then irresponsible. We ignored Labour and would put money


into the health service. As a result, there's been a 15% increase


in diagnostic radiographers. When it comes to the rest of the Cancer


plan, the money is being invested, there is a key difference, though,


between England and Wales and something he can help with, is that


there is a Labour government in Wales. Whereas we have a Cancer


Drugs Fund, they don't have one in Wales. So he needs to sort that out


with that Labour Administration. As for public health, under this


government, real advances have been made on public health, including


smoking rules in the backs of cars, including plain paper packaging, and


ring fencing public health budgets. All done and the Conservatives, not


done under Labour. Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister is


responsible for the health service in England. Wales is a devolved


matter. He must be aware... SHOUTING


And he must know that cancer surviving rates are improving better


in Wales than in any other part of the UK. But my question was... My


question, Mr Speaker, was about the cuts in public health budgets and


the effect that has on cancer care. Could the Prime Minister tell us


when was the last time that the NHS targets are starting cancer


treatment was met with in the 62 days required? As I have


treatment was met with in the 62 the three big targets we are meeting


the specialist within two weeks target and meeting the first


treatment within 31 days of diagnosis treatment and we are


treatment within 31 days of currently falling short of the 62


days target, something currently falling short of the 62


said in the answer to question two currently falling short of the 62


but he has not got around to it until question five. The cogs need


to turn a little faster! He can't wash his hands of the situation in


Wales, Labour run Wales. And what have they done in Wales? They have


cut the NHS in Wales! Now it is emerging, what Labour's great plan


is, cut the NHS in Wales and raise income tax on hard-working people in


Scotland. That's right. What will they do to radiographers in


Scotland, raise their taxes. What will they do to nurses in Scotland


or dentists? Raise their taxes. We now know the Labour plan, higher


taxes for more welfare, they have learned nothing in the last decade!


Mr Speaker, the last time the two months target was mad was 19 months


ago. The Prime Minister must be aware of that. -- the last time it


was mad. I am pleased that he is taking action to make sure that


doesn't continue all get worse. Another issue that affects cancer


patient Dexter is the recently division and -- deleted provisions


in the Welfare Reform Bill that would have taken money from the


group. Martin, who contacted me this week, says, yes, it is funny the


many members opposite, it isn't funny for Martin. Martin has a close


friend who has breast cancer, and I quote, is obviously too unwell to


work, and cuts will put her into hardship at a time when she is most


vulnerable. There are 3200 people with cancer hit by this cut to the


essay. Will the Prime Minister now confirm that when that matter


returns to the House of Commons, he would ensure that the Lord's's


position is app out and people like her don't suffer the cut that he


wanted to make in the first place? -- the position is upheld. Let me


tell you the situation. Though two sorts of support allowance, the


work-related activity group who are able to train for work and the


support group will go on getting employment and support allowance


indefinitely. That's the situation. We have said that in future the


work-related activity group should be paid at the same rate as


jobseeker's allowance but that is for future claimants, not for


existing claimants. They will continue to be paid at the same


rate. Of course if someone has cancer and cannot work they should


be in the support group. We've had this issue looked at again and again


and again. If they cannot work they go on getting the welfare payments


they need. That is what a compassionate conservative


government does. But I have to come back to him because he cannot wash


is hands of the situation in Wales. Hip operations in England take 75


days waiting times on average, in Wales, its 197 days. Diagnosis of


pneumonia takes two weeks longer, treatment of cataracts, Ernie Els,


heart operations take two months longer than in England. Labour are


running Wales. He is responsible for Labour. The phone and tell them to


stop cutting our NHS! Keen Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker it is interesting


that the Prime Minister did not answer the question iPod. Which is


whether or not he will proceed with the cut in the essay to 3200 people


with cancer at present. -- in the support allowance. I hope he thinks


seriously about this and doesn't proceed with this proposal. He'll


find that MacMillan Cancer Support, rethink Meltham illness, Parkinson's


UK are all united in opposing this cut because of the affected will


have on people with a range of serious conditions. The Prime


Minister used to say that those with the broadest shoulders should bear a


greater load. Can it be right that cancer patients and those with


disabilities on ?102 a week really are those with the broadest


shoulders who should bear this cut? Please, Prime Minister, think again,


and don't try to reverse the decision of the House of Lords on


this important matter. The people with the broadest shoulders are the


highest earners in this country and they are paying a higher share of


tax and the ever did under labour. That money is paying for the NHS and


the welfare assistant. I am the question very directly. If you are


an existing claimant unemployment and support allowance welfare not


changing. But in future those people who are able to work, we should help


them to get back to work, that is what a compassionate country does


when it is quite clear what the Labour policy is, cut the NHS in


Wales and raise taxes in Scotland to pay for more welfare. That's not the


approach this David Warburton. My right honourable


friend will know the West Country is becoming ever more the envy and the


engine room of the rest of the country, with dozens of companies


moving from the dark recesses of London to the bright sunlight of the


West. Will he keep supporting what they are now calling Somerset's


Silicon Gorge by maintaining investment in our roads, rail and


digital infrastructure? I am certainly keen to support Silicon


Gorge. For a moment, I thought he said Silicon George! It is essential


that we have a balanced economy, and that means a strong economy in the


west of our country as well as in the South and the north. We are


investing in the transport infrastructure, not least the vital


roads to the West Country, and improving rail links as well, as I


saw for myself yesterday in Chippenham. We also need to Mitch


with this broadband roll-out is effective across the country, and


that has to be a big focus getting to the last 10% of homes in so many


rural areas. It is crucial to make sure they are not left out. Angus


Robertson. The timing of the forthcoming European Union


referendum is extremely important. Today, the first ministers of


Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have jointly called for a commitment


by the UK Government not to hold the EU referendum in June, which would


clash with elections to the devolved legislatures. Will the Prime


Minister give that commitment today? Firstly, there is no agreement, so


no date has yet been fixed for the referendum. We discuss this a lot in


the House of Commons, and we legislate to make sure we wouldn't


hold the referendum at the same time as Scottish or Welsh elections. The


former First Minister of Scotland, who is not in his place today, said


it would be wrong to hold the referendum within six weeks of those


elections, and I can guarantee that will not happen. The first ministers


of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have written today, saying


that they believe holding a referendum in June "Risks confusing


issues when clarity is required, and call upon the Prime Minister to


defer the EU referendum at least until later in the year". Why will


the Prime Minister not respect the electorate and the governments of


Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and give that commitment today? I do


respect the former First Minister of Scotland, who said that six weeks


was necessary. I also respect the electrodes of England, Scotland,


Wales and Northern Ireland on the basis that I think people are


perfectly capable of making up their minds in a local election or a


Scottish Parliamentary election or a Welsh assembly election, and then,


some weeks afterwards, making up their mind on the vital question of


the European Union. No date has been fixed. There must be a six-week gap,


but I think he is looking for things to complain about. This House has


voted for a referendum. It would be odd if having voted for a


referendum, we then spent ages not having one. The Prime Minister will


be alarmed to hear that a shop in Gillingham selling illicit tobacco


was making ?25,000. Order. Excessive chuntering from a sedentary position


from a number of Scottish National Party members who wanted a hearing


for their leader. The honourable gentleman is entitled to be heard. I


appeal to the honourable gentleman to start his question again. The


Prime Minister will be alarmed to hear that a shopping Gillingham


selling illicit tobacco was making ?25,000 a week, destroying the local


economy, damaging people's health and nationally, this trade is


cutting the economy 2 billion a year. Will the government to look at


increasing the statutory maximum penalty for this offence to bring it


in line with the supply of class A drugs? -- Kas C drugs? I will look


at the issue my honourable friend races. HMRC, working closely with


the Border Force, has been effective in reducing this tax gap of people


selling illegal tobacco, and have closed off 1.3 billion of tax gaps


since 2000. They have sanctions to deal with illicit sales, including


seizure, penalties and criminal situations. They prosecuted almost


800 different people in the last two years, so I think the powers are


there, but I will see if more is needed. My constituent works for the


DWP and tells me that the government is correct when they deny that staff


have targets set for sanctioning benefits. They are not called


targets, they are


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