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Morning, folks, welcome to the Daily Politics. | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
Junior doctors are back on strike in England this morning, | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
More than 5,000 operations have been postponed because of the strike. | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
But with no sign of the Government backing down over the new doctors' | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
contract, where does the dispute go next? | :00:51. | :00:56. | |
Could it be raised by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn | :00:57. | :00:58. | |
as he puts his questions to the Prime Minister? | :00:59. | :01:00. | |
We'll bring you all the action from the Commons, live at noon. | :01:01. | :01:03. | |
Government plans to extend Sunday trading hours in England and Wales | :01:04. | :01:06. | |
may not pass, thanks to opposition from some Tories and the SNP. | :01:07. | :01:10. | |
We've sent out Ellie with the moodbox. | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
If they are open, people buy more, so we spend money, so it is not | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
I was about to say - and it's not even Sunday. | :01:19. | :01:23. | |
And we'll be talking about claims that a night of stand-up comedy | :01:24. | :01:29. | |
aimed at helping Jeremy Corbyn isn't causing much of a laugh in Scotland. | :01:30. | :01:39. | |
All that in the next hour and a half and with us for the whole | :01:40. | :01:43. | |
of the programme today two MPs we'd pay good money | :01:44. | :01:45. | |
No, I mean we'd pay them to sit down. | :01:46. | :01:49. | |
It's the Conservative justice minister Dominic Raab, | :01:50. | :01:51. | |
and Labour's shadow transport secretary Lilian Greenwood. | :01:52. | :01:53. | |
Junior doctors in England are back on strike this morning, | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
this time for the first of three 48-hour stoppages. | :01:59. | :02:03. | |
It's the longest so far and more than 5,000 treatments have had to be | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
postponed, but once again medics will be providing emergency | :02:07. | :02:08. | |
It's all thanks to a dispute with the Government over | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
its decision to impose a new contract for junior doctors. | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
Let's have a listen to NHS England's Anne Rainsbury. | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
Clearly there are a difficult number of days ahead for the NHS. | :02:26. | :02:28. | |
We have been working very, very closely with | :02:29. | :02:30. | |
hospitals up and down England, in order to ensure that they have | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
It's important to be clear that urgent and emergency care | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
will continue as normal, and therefore it is some planned | :02:40. | :02:42. | |
And we're joined now by Dr Andrew Collier, | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
he's a former co-chair of the British Medical Association's | :02:49. | :02:51. | |
Welcome to the programme. I thought the next stage was that the junior | :02:52. | :03:03. | |
doctors, if they did not get reconciliation, were going to | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
withdraw accident cover but that are not doing that, why not? We would | :03:08. | :03:14. | |
never do anything to place a patient at risk so the industrial action | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
today and in the next two days will be completely safe. When we withdrew | :03:19. | :03:21. | |
the plans for emergency cover we did not think our colleagues or patient | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
Dexter would want that to happen so we've revised that in the light of | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
public opinion. Even if the dispute progresses you will keep emergency | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
cover? Completely. Nobody will do anything to put a patient at risk. | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
Regrettably it is the only thing that hopefully will make the | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
government and Jeremy Hunt listen to the concerns of doctors. I knew | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
worrying that you want to get the governments attention? These | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
disputes could drag on, the emergency cover could be there, and | :03:55. | :04:01. | |
by and large it peters out? I've been dreadfully worried for three | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
years about the safety of the NHS and junior doctors's contract, | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
that's why we entered negotiations to improve things. We've seen some | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
improvements to the contract, although not enough. The past few | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
months we've been engaged in a game of hide and sick. Jeremy Hunt has | :04:18. | :04:23. | |
been hiding. Where is he hiding, in a cupboard somewhere? When we tried | :04:24. | :04:30. | |
to approach for a straight answer we can't get one. If at any just | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
employers answering questions on Facebook, I think that demeans his | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
position, the fact they did that, 260 questions, of which only 26 were | :04:40. | :04:45. | |
answered, and is not forthcoming. Are any talks scheduled our door is | :04:46. | :04:54. | |
open. I think talking is the way out of the dilemma. Bristol have time. | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
These are some of the points in the deal. What they are going to impose, | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
that's the way to describe it, no doctor will ever be rostered for two | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
weekends in a row, maximum number of consecutive nights will be cut from | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
seven to four, maximum hours worked the week cut from 91 to 72, that | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
would seem to be the basis of an agreement? Certain elements of the | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
contract proposed would be improvement, others are so toxic it | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
is unacceptable. One of the things we've seen is the removal of | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
independent oversight in the number of hours junior doctors work. | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
Through our training we move between trusts and it's difficult to embed | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
in the network of trusts. They currently have an independent system | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
where hours are monitored. If a trust of works junior doctors, it's | :05:46. | :05:47. | |
that kind of thing that worries them. It is time to sit down, talk | :05:48. | :05:55. | |
and listen. If you got independent oversight reinstated would that | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
change things? We need to look at the whole contract, it is committed, | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
it would run to several hundred pages, it's about ironing out those | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
details. When the door is shut on negotiations we can't I am out. It's | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
time to talk. We would be more than happy to call off industrial action | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
going forward if we could get those talks back going. Let's get | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
background the table and talk. What if that doesn't happen, you head | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
towards August when the deal is imposed, what will the junior | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
doctors do, what is your legal position? They are dedicated to the | :06:30. | :06:36. | |
NHS but we might see them move abroad. They already want him, | :06:37. | :06:42. | |
stretching them Senate might push us beyond breaking point. We might see | :06:43. | :06:45. | |
fewer people taking up critical specialities like accident and | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
emergency, general practice, mental health, and if only a few doctors go | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
abroad the sustainability of the system could crash down. That is | :06:55. | :07:00. | |
what worries me. One part of the argument is what you will get paid | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
on Saturday, I believe it is time plus the deepest and on Saturdays, | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
even if you only work one Saturday a month? That's part of the agreement. | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
People have tried to characterise this as a debate on pay. Pay is part | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
of the concerns the junior doctors, in three years' time, it will drop. | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
Yet it is about so much more to say it is about Saturday working is so | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
wrong. I can see what the Tories want to do that because they are | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
concerned they have made a non-funded election promise, they | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
have said they will have seven-day working, within the existing budget. | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
And when the public health accounts committee last week, questions were | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
asked about where is the money for this, no answers were forthcoming. | :07:44. | :07:51. | |
Thank you. Why is Jeremy Hunt hiding, Dominic? Why has that been | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
closed? There's been plenty of talking over a protracted period, we | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
have seen several thousand surgeries postpunk. I don't think that's | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
right. We put in huge and extra investment, we have seen 10,000 new | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
doctors in the NHS over the last Parliament, you've got to have a | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
form as well, it can't just be a bottomless pit where you pour in | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
more money. I think junior doctor changes will be good for patients, | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
the medical director of the NHS, I also think it is a reasonable deal | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
for doctors. It is not because the dispute is going on. My question is | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
about how you break the logjam. It sounds as if Jeremy Hunt is not | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
coming back for talks, could he be that should he be? I think it is | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
reasonable for the doctors because it is a pay rise and the hours been | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
cut. As for Saturdays they are only being asked to do the same as | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
firefighters and police. When you get the stage where talks are being | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
regarded as kicking it into the long grass, this is difficult, we don't | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
want to fight people like and, we want to be on the side of doctors, | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
and above all, on the side of patient Dexter. The exhaust Mori | :09:07. | :09:14. | |
poll today blames the government entirely for the strike and a | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
further 28% blame both side. In terms of whose side you are on, you | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
have 85 of the public utter 85% of the public against you. The same | :09:24. | :09:30. | |
poll also showed an increasing number of people opposed to the | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
strike. They want you to resolve it. Your sentiment sounds as if you have | :09:36. | :09:38. | |
reached the end of the road on talks. If you are outside watching | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
this and in the private sector the idea that you could be held to | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
ransom about contract is ridiculous. In the private sector we've always | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
said about Saturday working, the same basic deal as the firefighters | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
and the police. And not all of the doctors's representatives have been | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
as reasonable as Andrew. We ought to have a proper debate based on the | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
facts. Yet at the end of the day the government must take the decision, | :10:09. | :10:12. | |
you can't have the NHS or the government held to ransom. That was | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
something that was not true, Dominic said this would not happen in the | :10:19. | :10:25. | |
private sector, is right. They would go elsewhere. We have a monopoly | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
employer delivering free care at the point of delivery. We don't want | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
doctors to go elsewhere, you said yourself they may go overseas. They | :10:36. | :10:42. | |
will be driven overseas. The comparison with the private sector | :10:43. | :10:48. | |
it is valid. Lilian, will you be on the picket line? I am concerned | :10:49. | :10:55. | |
about the impact on hospitals, I know my local hospitals are already | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
struggling to recruit doctors and nurses. Morale is at rock bottom. | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
You don't back the seven-day service the government proposes? I agree | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
there should be contract reform, everyone thinks that, yet you have | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
to do that by talking and reaching agreement. Patients will lose out if | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
we go overseas -- our doctors go overseas at the moment we struggling | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
to recruit. Would you give the junior doctors what they are asking | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
for, like the Independent oversight and the Saturday clauses? I would | :11:30. | :11:38. | |
talk. The only way this will be resolved will be about that getting | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
around the table. Progress has been made on some points, not others. I'm | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
not going to be on the picket line because I'm discussing this year. I | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
completely understand the anger of junior doctors. And it is clear that | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
the public to. This dispute, like all of them, will only be resolved | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
when people get around the negotiating table. Thank you. | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
And you can find out more about the junior doctors' strike | :12:04. | :12:06. | |
in England and the background to the dispite on the BBC's special | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
report page www.bbc.co.uk/juniordoctors. | :12:10. | :12:10. | |
Now, we've seen some high-profile figures weigh in to the referendum | :12:11. | :12:13. | |
Not least, according to this morning's Sun, the Queen. | :12:14. | :12:22. | |
One of our favourite viewers of the programme, so we say Hi, tell us of | :12:23. | :12:30. | |
the Sun was accurate or not, I have my doubts! | :12:31. | :12:32. | |
The paper declares that Her Majesty backs Brexit - | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
this is based on unnamed sources, naturally, who were present | :12:38. | :12:40. | |
when she was said to have told Nick Clegg she believed the EU | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
Buckingham Palace says she remains entirely neutral. | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
Yesterday's big intervention was from Bank of England Governor | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
Mark Carney, who incurred the wrath of Leave campaigners | :12:51. | :12:52. | |
when he described exit from the EU as the "biggest domestic risk" | :12:53. | :12:55. | |
He also, however, acknowledged that there were risks | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
So, as a public service, which of course is why we get out | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
of bed in the morning, we thought we'd look at some | :13:07. | :13:09. | |
of the main possible risks on both sides. | :13:10. | :13:11. | |
Yes, as we speed down the road towards the EU referendum on June | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
23rd, voters will be keeping an eye out for the possible dangers | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
If we leave the EU, the central warning from 'in' campaigners | :13:20. | :13:26. | |
is that it could be harder to trade with other EU countries, | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
which could hit exports, damage the economy and put | :13:30. | :13:31. | |
But Leave campaigners say staying in will prevent Britain | :13:32. | :13:39. | |
making its own trade deals with major emerging economies, | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
instead, tying British businesses to a shrinking European market. | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
When it comes to security, those arguing for an in vote say | :13:49. | :13:51. | |
that leaving the EU would mean leaving the European Arrest Warrant | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
and Europol, both of which they say help fight crime and terrorism. | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
Leave campaigners say staying in means there's little chance | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
of cutting net migration, currently at 323,000 - | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
more than half of which comes from the EU. | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
Renewed talk of Turkey joining the union will only add to that | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
Could prices of food and other goods rise if we vote to leave? | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
That's the claim that's been put by the in campaign, | :14:19. | :14:21. | |
which says import tariffs could add to the burden on households. | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
While those backing Brexit say that staying in means Britain | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
being dragged into inevitable further EU integration - | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
which could, they claim, mean paying into another Eurozone | :14:34. | :14:36. | |
bailout and even the creation of an EU army. | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
So those are some of the main risks as viewed by both sides | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
We are indeed. Lilian Greenwood, the biggest risk of staying in? | :14:47. | :15:04. | |
I think the main risks are associated with the leaving. I will | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
come onto that in a minute. Are you saying there are no risks to staying | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
in? We know where we are if we stay in. We have been members of the | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
European union for decades. If there are changes coming down the road, we | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
have an opportunity to influence those. No risks? There are risks | :15:24. | :15:30. | |
facing us as a country, as there are to the European Union as whole. I | :15:31. | :15:34. | |
don't think they are associated to staying in. What is the biggest risk | :15:35. | :15:39. | |
of coming out? The biggest argument you hear from the remaining campaign | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
is the short-term instability, but people said that about the | :15:44. | :15:47. | |
referendum. Last year we rose to having the third highest foreign | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
investment in the world. Is there a risk? There are risks on both sides | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
and I think Mark Carney tried to set out the balance of risks on both | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
sides. I think the most important thing he said about staying in is he | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
said he thought it was more likely than not that the European Union | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
would go for international frisking banking union. If that is a case, | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
how does Greece get out of the rut? How does Italy not fall into | :16:16. | :16:18. | |
question mark it sounds like an EU in a state of crisis. You accept | :16:19. | :16:25. | |
there could be short-term risks? Short-term disruption, if we vote to | :16:26. | :16:29. | |
leave? I think there are pros and cons for both positions. It was a | :16:30. | :16:35. | |
simple and straightforward question. If I say there is a certain risk, | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
press conferences will go out saying the game is up. There are pros and | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
cons for both ways. I think the brighter prospects for the UK are | :16:46. | :16:51. | |
having less burden on SN Es. Small and medium-sized businesses. And | :16:52. | :16:55. | |
funnily enough Mark Carney said that yesterday. There was nothing to stop | :16:56. | :17:04. | |
us trading now. There is, the EU has strict confidence over those deals. | :17:05. | :17:12. | |
We still trade, China Germany trade a lot more with China than we do. | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
But we are under a protectionist umbrella. Was the governor not | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
within his rights to assess what the risks were of leaving? That is the | :17:22. | :17:28. | |
job of our central banker, isn't it? He has to be careful, as does the | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
Queen, about being drawn into the politics of it. The Queen is just a | :17:33. | :17:38. | |
newspaper story. The governor was on the record yesterday. You are not | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
saying the Queen is in favour of Brexit? I love to Nick Clegg's | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
comment about having no recollection. He sounded like a | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
shoplifter outside Woolworths full of pockets of Mars bars. Was the | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
governor right? A fair laying out of the risks on certain courses of | :17:57. | :18:03. | |
action that is what they are asked to do? I will not quibble about what | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
he did. I felt personally reading the media reports that they had not | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
picked up on the serious downsides of staying in, particularly this | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
issue of the Eurozone not reforming. He said chances are the Eurozone | :18:17. | :18:23. | |
will not proceed to that. How do you get grease out of the rut? Most of | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
the action, if we stay in, will be in the Eurozone. If there is future | :18:29. | :18:36. | |
integration, which is the wish of some leaders, isn't that a risks are | :18:37. | :18:40. | |
staying in? They could agree things that will not be in our interests? | :18:41. | :18:45. | |
We need to be part of the negotiations in the EU. But we | :18:46. | :18:52. | |
aren't? We have chosen to stay out of the Eurozone and that is a | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
decision we are happy with. My point is this, my point is if we stay in | :18:57. | :19:03. | |
and vote to remain, there could well be the five presidents report could | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
be implemented. The governor could be wrong and the Eurozone could go | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
too much closer fiscal and monetary union. It could decide things not in | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
our interest, and we are no longer in the Eurozone so we could be | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
outvoted. There are risks associated with the remaining, discussions that | :19:23. | :19:25. | |
might happen within Europe. Use it only are there were not? I said we | :19:26. | :19:32. | |
were better off being part of the EU and influencing the future direction | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
of Europe than sitting on the outside and all the uncertainties | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
about leaving. One of the risks of leaving is we do not know what our | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
relationship will be with the single market. It was interesting at the | :19:44. | :19:50. | |
weekend that both Iris Johnson, pro-Brexit, and Douglas Carswell, | :19:51. | :19:53. | |
started to talk about maybe we should try to negotiate a free trade | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
agreement with Europe. -- Boris Johnson. Rather than a full single | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
market agreement. That is a risk. A free trade agreement is nowhere near | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
as open as a single market agreement. If you look at the single | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
market it includes all the social... They talk about social justice and | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
policing. You talk to a bureaucrat in Brussels and they save you want | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
to be in the single market, you need to be in everything. There is a | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
Swiss, Norwegian, Turkish option. Britain's economy is bigger than all | :20:24. | :20:29. | |
of those combined. I don't think it is unreasonable to say we want a | :20:30. | :20:35. | |
bespoke deal for Britain. We have sold ?59 million more. We have a | :20:36. | :20:38. | |
neutral interest in that. It is a risk and we don't know what the mood | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
of the rest of the European Union would be if we vote to get out. | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
There will be people saying we cannot offer the Brits are good deal | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
otherwise others will want it. Do we think given the trade deficit we | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
have with the EU that German manufacturers, French farmers and | :20:58. | :20:59. | |
pharmaceutical firms will be so vindictive they will hit their own | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
pockets by hitting such rigid trade barriers that we have the impact | :21:06. | :21:08. | |
your talking about. We could have tariffs. Is that a savoury argument | :21:09. | :21:16. | |
for the in campaign to use? What about British expats abroad if we | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
vote to leave? That will be subject to negotiation but I'm sure we would | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
come to a sensible, mutual understanding, allowing people who | :21:26. | :21:28. | |
have been there for a certain period of time to stay. I think we should | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
do the same here. We don't know that? You don't know anything | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
because you cannot engage in the Brexit negotiations... We will not | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
have the verdict from the British public... Would all EU citizens of | :21:41. | :21:47. | |
this country continue on the same basis? That would have to be subject | :21:48. | :21:54. | |
to negotiation. Not to set up silly hostages to fortune in advance, | :21:55. | :21:56. | |
which is what you're trying to get me to do. I'm tried to clarify the | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
issue so people can make up their mind how to vote. Many viewers | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
abroad will be watching in Spain, France and Italy. They will like to | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
know what their status would be. I can't give you an answer because the | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
EU could not give you an answer until used adding that negotiation. | :22:15. | :22:18. | |
Everything is a risk. Mark Carney set out the risk of caucusing from | :22:19. | :22:21. | |
the Eurozone against financial services. It ought about the fact | :22:22. | :22:26. | |
more likely than not there would be no reforming the Eurozone. We have | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
talked about that. Isn't there a risk if Turkey joined the European | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
Union? The clearest risk from what we had Dominic say is he would like | :22:37. | :22:40. | |
to leave the EU and scrap some of the workplace rights that have come | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
from the EU. I think people in the UK worried about jobs would be | :22:46. | :22:53. | |
worried about those. What I am asking is, do you regard it as a | :22:54. | :22:59. | |
risk that if we stay, that Turkey may become is a member of the EU? Of | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
course there is the potential for further countries to join the | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
European Union. We would be part of those discussions, as we have been. | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
Would you be favour of Turkey joining the European Union? I very | :23:14. | :23:17. | |
much welcome the discussions happening with Turkey about issues | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
that affect us in Europe, like migration. That is not why are | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
asked. Is it your party's policy all your personal view that you would be | :23:27. | :23:34. | |
in favour of Turkey joining the European Union? I think we need to | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
have in our discussions with Turkey, discussions about our shared values. | :23:38. | :23:39. | |
There are concerns about human rights in Turkey that would have to | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
be dealt with before there could be a question of them joining the EU. | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
You don't see it happening in the full sable future? I don't think it | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
could happen until those issues are discussed and addressed. One of the | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
consequences of the Visa liberalisation deal is only, as far | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
as we can see, it refers to the Schengen area. We will not be | :24:01. | :24:07. | |
obliged to respect the liberalisation for Turkey? I think | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
there is huge pressure to reform the whole way the EU rules on free | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
movement work, as a result of the appalling scenes we are singing | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
Greece and in relation to Turkey. But if you want to have a proper | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
public confidence in border controls, you cannot do that from | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
within the European Union. The short answer to our question about Turkey | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
is I don't think we could engage, accept Turkey to be a member under | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
the current rules. We would have a veto. Every country has one. I think | :24:39. | :24:45. | |
that may be true. That is true. But there would be huge pressure on the | :24:46. | :24:50. | |
UK to back down. We've had that in relation to all of the... Inside the | :24:51. | :24:56. | |
EU you accept although Angela Merkel is trying to do a deal that would | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
give Visa free travel throughout the Schengen area, that would not cover | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
us because we are outside that? Look at the pressures we are already | :25:06. | :25:08. | |
facing because of our current arrangements and free movement rules | :25:09. | :25:11. | |
we have signed up to. That is the basic problem. You talk about a | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
Norwegian model and Norway has to sign up to it. I'd said there are a | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
whole range of models and because our economy is bigger than those we | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
are in a pretty good negotiating position. Let's move on. | :25:26. | :25:27. | |
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It's coming up to midday here, just take a look at Big Ben, | :28:06. | :28:14. | |
Yes, Prime Minister's Questions is on its way. | :28:15. | :28:20. | |
And that's not all - The Guardian's Nick Watt is here. | :28:21. | :28:23. | |
Good to see you. What do you think Mr Corbyn's strategy will be today? | :28:24. | :28:33. | |
I know he feels pretty uncomfortable about the deal on migrants, so maybe | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
he will talk about that. But one week away from the budget. The | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
economic figures, those tax receipts are looking pretty bad, so that | :28:42. | :28:45. | |
might be quite a tempting target for Jeremy Corbyn. George Osborne has | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
worried he had to move his surplus target back by one year, that is | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
what he did in July's budget. As I understand from senior Whitehall | :28:55. | :29:00. | |
sources, the surplus EU is trying to achieve by 2019-20 is looking really | :29:01. | :29:04. | |
bad and possibly minus figures. So maybe the economy. There is very | :29:05. | :29:10. | |
little the Prime Minister can say about the budget this side of the | :29:11. | :29:15. | |
Chancellor delivering the budget. But the Turkish deal negotiated by | :29:16. | :29:20. | |
Angela Merkel with the Dutch Prime Minister in tow, and no one else, | :29:21. | :29:24. | |
not even double task or Francois Hollande was involved, it does | :29:25. | :29:28. | |
involve spending British money and the forcible removal of migrants | :29:29. | :29:32. | |
from Greece back to Turkey. It is not clear if that can be done. It is | :29:33. | :29:38. | |
not clear if it is legal. Surely the Leader of the Opposition, wants to | :29:39. | :29:40. | |
hold government to account on a major issue, this has to be what he | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
goes for. I know he does feel strongly about this and I think of | :29:46. | :29:48. | |
particular interest to Jeremy Corbyn is the UN are saying, look, this | :29:49. | :29:52. | |
goes against basic rules. You cannot force a plea remove people. How do | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
they do it anyway? Exactly. For Angela Merkel in the dead of night | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
to agree with the... She is reaching a bilateral deal with him but cannot | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
get it past the 28 members of the European Union just yet. Just at the | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
time Ankara is closing opposition newspapers, it is fertile territory | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
for Jeremy Corbyn. But we are all week away from the budget and the | :30:18. | :30:20. | |
economic picture is not looking quite as good as they did at the | :30:21. | :30:23. | |
time of the Autumn Statement in November, so that might be territory | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
for him. He may be surprises us all by talking about something we | :30:29. | :30:34. | |
haven't talked about. We talk about Kennedy's first 100 days, but today | :30:35. | :30:38. | |
is Jeremy Corbyn's 100th question. Only you would know that! | :30:39. | :30:45. | |
I did as well. I read it in the Independent. I thought they were | :30:46. | :30:52. | |
closing it. No, alive and kicking as a newspaper for a few days and then | :30:53. | :31:00. | |
online. Very good! Which questioned today will be the 100th question? | :31:01. | :31:06. | |
That is... Andrew, there is the mathematician. It is the fourth. You | :31:07. | :31:15. | |
did know. All of sorts talk inside the Parliamentary Labour Party about | :31:16. | :31:19. | |
Mr Corbyn. It died down for a while and has led back up again. Jeremy | :31:20. | :31:23. | |
Corbyn does not have the confidence of the Parliamentary Labour Party. | :31:24. | :31:27. | |
Some ultras would like him out immediately and talk about having an | :31:28. | :31:33. | |
Australia strategy. A convict! These are the leadership spills you have | :31:34. | :31:37. | |
had in labour and of the Liberal party in Australia that got rid of | :31:38. | :31:43. | |
Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott. Essentially what one former minister | :31:44. | :31:47. | |
said to me, and it is quite brutal language, is we have to keep on | :31:48. | :31:50. | |
shooting him until he goes. That is what the ultras are saying. More | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
mainstream people are saying he got 59.7% of the vote in the party | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
membership. That vote, if anything, is going up. If you try and move | :32:00. | :32:04. | |
against him you will embolden those people, him and undermine what you | :32:05. | :32:07. | |
are trying to do. Now over to the House of | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
The Prime Minister. Thank you Mr Speaker. This morning I had meetings | :32:12. | :32:20. | |
with my colleagues and I shall have further such meetings today. People | :32:21. | :32:27. | |
in Bristol South look forward to the promised Chef apprenticeships yet | :32:28. | :32:33. | |
question how this will happen on the eve of National Apprenticeship Week, | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
does the Prime Minister have a delivery plan or is he making it up | :32:38. | :32:43. | |
as he goes along? We achieved 2 million in the last Parliament, we | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
are confident of achieving 3 million in this Parliament. We have a | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
delivery plan, based on large companies continuing with their | :32:53. | :32:55. | |
plans for apprenticeships. We want small companies to do more and the | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
public sector to join in with larger plans and we regularly review | :33:00. | :33:04. | |
progress towards the target. James Berry. Mr Speaker, many of my | :33:05. | :33:12. | |
constituents get the train to central London every day for work | :33:13. | :33:16. | |
and are concerned about terrorist threats posed by Daesh in the | :33:17. | :33:22. | |
capital. Can my friend Mike update the House on progress made on | :33:23. | :33:25. | |
tackling the source of that threat in Iraq and Syria? --, honourable | :33:26. | :33:33. | |
friend update the House? It was very striking what is this and | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
Commissioner Mark Rowley said last week about the dangers we face. | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
Domestically we are protecting counterterrorism policing and | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
investing in counterintelligence and securities abuses as we did in the | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
last element, we are making good progress and pushing Daesh backs | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
this is something we need to do domestic league and overseas. I was | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
appalled to see yesterday that the Labour Party has readmitted Somerby | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
to their party who says that the 9/11 suicide bombers must never be | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
condemned, and belongs to an organisation that says that we | :34:08. | :34:12. | |
defend Islamic State in Syria and Iraq. Appalling views and I hope the | :34:13. | :34:17. | |
Leader of the Opposition will throw the person out of the party instead | :34:18. | :34:25. | |
of welcoming him in. Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker. I hope the Prime | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
Minister will join me in morning of the death today of the fifth Beatle, | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
George Martin, and the wonderful music that will last for time that | :34:34. | :34:39. | |
he gave us. Last week the Prime Minister told the house we had a | :34:40. | :34:44. | |
strong economy with a sound plan. If the economy is so strong, why this | :34:45. | :34:51. | |
week has he forced through a ?30 per week cut, hitting some of the | :34:52. | :34:54. | |
poorest disabled people in the country? First let me join him in | :34:55. | :35:01. | |
what he said about George Martin, he was a massive figure, a giant in | :35:02. | :35:05. | |
popular music and responsible for some tunes that will live for ever | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
more. I'm only disappointed that he can't comment on my earlier point. | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
It seems to me that we have a responsibility as party leaders for | :35:15. | :35:18. | |
our own parties. He asked about the strength of the economy. We do face | :35:19. | :35:23. | |
an uncertain international environment and all the experts warn | :35:24. | :35:26. | |
of the danger we face. Yet today we have zero inflation percent, our | :35:27. | :35:33. | |
economy is growing, which is growing and we cut the taxes that people are | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
paying. That, combined with reforming welfare, and we are doing | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
that, is the way to get the deficit down, continue with growth and help | :35:44. | :35:46. | |
deliver for working people in Britain. Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker I | :35:47. | :35:55. | |
do not believe that the majority of people in this country are content | :35:56. | :35:59. | |
to see someone diagnosed with cancer today and unable to work next year, | :36:00. | :36:03. | |
reduced to poverty because of the cuts this government is putting | :36:04. | :36:08. | |
through. The Chancellor has found another ?6.6 billion to reduce | :36:09. | :36:13. | |
corporation tax and big business. Despite our corporation tax already | :36:14. | :36:16. | |
being lower than any other G7 nation. Today action for children, | :36:17. | :36:23. | |
the Children's Society, the National children's bureau, shows local | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
authority spending on children and young people has been cut by ?2 | :36:27. | :36:31. | |
billion, 71%. Does this not show a wrong choice by the pro-minister? | :36:32. | :36:40. | |
Let's look at what has happened to corporation tax receipts since we | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
cut corporation tax. That's the question because the point of | :36:45. | :36:47. | |
setting tax rates is to raise money rather than make a political point. | :36:48. | :36:52. | |
And the fact is that corporation tax receipts are up by 20% under this | :36:53. | :36:58. | |
government so we have more money to spend on children, and children's | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
services, on education. Whereas if we put up tax rates as reasons to be | :37:04. | :37:07. | |
suggesting we would get less money in. That's the result, they care | :37:08. | :37:13. | |
about making a political point, we care about raising revenue and | :37:14. | :37:18. | |
providing good services. I asked, if there's more money available to be | :37:19. | :37:22. | |
spent on children's services why are there half a million more children | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
in poverty in Britain because of the policies of his government? If we | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
really have the strong economy the Prime Minister claims, why did | :37:32. | :37:36. | |
Chancellor warned last week and I quote, we may need to make further | :37:37. | :37:49. | |
reductions? Who will they fall on, young people, women? Will he rule | :37:50. | :37:54. | |
out attacking those groups? He will see the Budget next week when my | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
right honourable friend who has an excellent record of steering the | :38:00. | :38:03. | |
economy stands and to deliver it. About those remarks on poverty let | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
me say what has happened since 2010. There are 680,000 who were workless | :38:10. | :38:15. | |
households. Think what that means. 80,000 households where someone is | :38:16. | :38:17. | |
bringing home a wage, putting food on the table and paying less taxes. | :38:18. | :38:23. | |
There are 40,000 fewer households where no member has ever worked and | :38:24. | :38:39. | |
480,000 fewer, that is about tackling poverty, all things never | :38:40. | :38:45. | |
delivered by Labour. Mr Speaker, the problem is the number of households | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
suffering from in work poverty because of the insecure jobs, | :38:51. | :38:53. | |
because of zero hours contracts, because of low wages. As he well | :38:54. | :38:59. | |
knows, the poorest have paid the most for the cuts and women have | :39:00. | :39:06. | |
paid for 81% of those cuts. Mr Speaker, on 99 previous attempts to | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
ask questions to the Prime Minister, I have been unclear or dissatisfied | :39:12. | :39:14. | |
by the answers, as indeed have many other people! So, on this auspicious | :39:15. | :39:25. | |
100th occasion, can I ask the Prime Minister to help a young man named | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
Cal. Last week the Prime Minister told the engineering employers | :39:32. | :39:34. | |
Federation that we have a skills shortage. A good admission. Callum | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
as a bright young man, wanting to make his way in the world and he | :39:40. | :39:46. | |
says,... Well, maybe the Prime Minister does as well... Will the | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
government acknowledged the importance of sixth form colleges | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
and post-16 education services in Britain? Let me congratulate the | :39:55. | :40:03. | |
honourable gentleman on getting to 100 not out, that will be welcomed | :40:04. | :40:07. | |
across the House. What I would say to Callum is what we are introducing | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
is a situation where we and cap university places so as many people | :40:13. | :40:17. | |
who want to go can go and we will introduce in this Parliament 3 | :40:18. | :40:20. | |
million apprentices. That combined with better funded sixth forms and | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
further education colleges means we've got a proper education system | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
that can really drive opportunity in this country. Let me come back once | :40:30. | :40:41. | |
more and child poverty, let me give him the figures. 800,000 fewer | :40:42. | :40:44. | |
people in relative poverty than 2010. 300,000 fewer children in | :40:45. | :40:46. | |
relative poverty in 2010. That is the Labour measurement used so when | :40:47. | :40:49. | |
he gets to did this batch proxy can tell us that he was wrong about | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
child poverty. -- when he gets to this dispatch box. The prime | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
ministers seems to be answering the last question but one. If I could | :41:00. | :41:04. | |
bring him back to the question from Callum, and point out that there has | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
been a 10% cut in real terms in sixth form and further education and | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
adult education has been cut by 35% during his time as Prime Minister, | :41:15. | :41:20. | |
the construction output in Britain has shrunk for two consecutive | :41:21. | :41:23. | |
quarters now. Surely this is a matter of concern? Is this not a | :41:24. | :41:30. | |
sign that this economic recovery has been constructed on sand? Let me | :41:31. | :41:35. | |
first confirmed that we have protected 16-18 education in this | :41:36. | :41:38. | |
spending round. He talks about construction. We want to see every | :41:39. | :41:44. | |
part of our economy growing and it is, unlike so many in what is a | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
difficult and dangerous world right now. Yet if you look at our | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
construction plans because we have a strong economy we can commit to HS2, | :41:53. | :41:58. | |
the biggest road programme since the 1970s, the largest rail programme | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
since Victorian times and together with huge infrastructure projects in | :42:03. | :42:06. | |
energy and other areas. Those things are only possible because we have a | :42:07. | :42:11. | |
strong and growing economy. We know what Labour would do. His spending | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
plans are a risk to the nation 's finances, his tax plans a risk to | :42:17. | :42:19. | |
every family in the country and we know what he wants which is to put | :42:20. | :42:24. | |
up taxes on people earning over ?20,000, that's the plan and it | :42:25. | :42:30. | |
would wreck this country's finances. Mr Speaker we have the construction | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
industry in recession at a time when there is an acute need for new | :42:35. | :42:37. | |
housing. Construction apprenticeships have fallen by 11% | :42:38. | :42:46. | |
since 2010. We have the lowest rate of house building since the 1920s, | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
almost 100 years ago. Will the Prime Minister look again at this issue, | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
stop the cuts to skills training and the cuts to investment | :42:59. | :42:58. | |
that are holding back this country, holding back the skill ambitions of | :42:59. | :43:05. | |
so many young people and invest in them and invest in our future. I | :43:06. | :43:12. | |
have to pick up the right honourable gentleman on his statistics because | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
we have seen a massive boost to apprenticeships and apprenticeship | :43:18. | :43:20. | |
funding under this government, 2 million in the last Parliament, 3 | :43:21. | :43:25. | |
million in this one. House-building under Labour fell by 45% and has | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
since increased by two thirds, over 7000 new homes delivered since 2010 | :43:31. | :43:36. | |
and now completions our up, housing starts at the highest level since | :43:37. | :43:41. | |
2007, lasted, they nearly doubled the low point of 2009. They wrecked | :43:42. | :43:47. | |
the economy, created that instability, we have been building a | :43:48. | :43:50. | |
strong economy and that is what we have to stick with. Mark Spencer. | :43:51. | :43:58. | |
Thank you. Unemployment in Sherwood has halved since 2010. Given that | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
the Chancellor will make his budget statement next week can the Prime | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
Minister assure the House you will continue to support education and | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
support to get to jobs that is maintaining the Conservative lot of | :44:13. | :44:18. | |
aspiration? My honourable friend is right, the school improvement | :44:19. | :44:21. | |
programme we are driving forward combined with an capping university | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
places and investing in apprenticeships is giving people a | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
ladder of opportunity to make the most of their lives and the most of | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
the aplomb and opportunities clearly created in this country where there | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
are 2 million more people in work. I know he has a particular interest in | :44:37. | :44:40. | |
his constituency, and extending the Robin Hood line and is meeting with | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
ministers to deliver this. Just the sort of infrastructure project this | :44:45. | :44:51. | |
government wants to get behind. Angus Robertson. Mr Speaker, the | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
refugee crisis is the biggest issue facing governments across Europe. Is | :44:56. | :45:01. | |
the Prime Minister ashamed that any UK Government programme, we now know | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
that in Folkestone trafficking victims were locked up without food, | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
asylum seeking children were forced to sleep on concrete floors, | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
patients with diarrhoea denied access to showers and a naked woman | :45:14. | :45:19. | |
was allegedly beaten at a detention centre. As the Prime Minister | :45:20. | :45:20. | |
ashamed of this? I would say that our asylum system | :45:21. | :45:30. | |
is fair and Britain, down the ages, has given people asylum who are | :45:31. | :45:34. | |
fleeing persecution and torture. When it comes to the issue of | :45:35. | :45:39. | |
resettling Syrian refugees, it was instructed at this week's European | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
Council with a chart showing how many countries have actually be | :45:44. | :45:47. | |
settled Syrian refugees, Britain has done far better than any other | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
country except Germany. Angus Robertson. This week the Scottish | :45:52. | :46:00. | |
refugee Council called for an investigation into how asylum | :46:01. | :46:02. | |
seekers are treated and housed in Glasgow. They want the Home Office | :46:03. | :46:07. | |
to commission an independent inquiry into claims of substandard housing | :46:08. | :46:16. | |
and deep -- dehumanising treatment by his government. Will he | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
commission that investigation? We are very happy for these issues | :46:21. | :46:26. | |
to be properly investigated. The home affairs select committee on | :46:27. | :46:28. | |
this House of Commons has done a report into the way asylum, housing | :46:29. | :46:34. | |
is commission. If the Scottish Parliament wants to carry out those | :46:35. | :46:38. | |
investigations, of course the United Kingdom government will cooperate. | :46:39. | :46:43. | |
We need to make sure when we take people in they are properly housed, | :46:44. | :46:46. | |
look after, their children at school, because that is the sort of | :46:47. | :46:51. | |
generous country we are. Mr Stevenson. | :46:52. | :46:58. | |
Thank you Mr Speaker. I welcome the Government's excellent initiative to | :46:59. | :47:02. | |
encourage employers to hire ex-offenders. Speaking as someone | :47:03. | :47:08. | |
who employs an ex-offender by the excellent working chance charity, | :47:09. | :47:14. | |
good the Prime Minister sure the House that implies in the public, | :47:15. | :47:18. | |
private and voluntary sectors play their part in providing excellent | :47:19. | :47:23. | |
opportunities? I agree with my friend and agree | :47:24. | :47:28. | |
with what he has done. If people are applying for a job, they have two at | :47:29. | :47:32. | |
some stage declared the criminal record they have on the offences | :47:33. | :47:36. | |
they may have committed. The question is do they have to do it | :47:37. | :47:40. | |
absolutely at the CVE stage? We believe they shouldn't. This level | :47:41. | :47:47. | |
-- civil service will do this. You might at least get the chance of an | :47:48. | :47:50. | |
interview so you are not ruled out. That is what we talk about. When we | :47:51. | :47:54. | |
talk about life chances for people in our country and giving people | :47:55. | :47:58. | |
sometimes a second chance to have a go at their life, we are putting our | :47:59. | :48:02. | |
money where our mouth is. If the British people vote to leave | :48:03. | :48:08. | |
the European Union, will the Prime Minister resign, yes or no? | :48:09. | :48:09. | |
No. It is very much to the Government | :48:10. | :48:27. | |
must back credit that over 2 million jobs have been created since 2010. | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
-- government's credit. But nearly 1 million have gone to non-UK EU | :48:33. | :48:38. | |
nationals. Does the Prime Minister agree with me that the EU's free | :48:39. | :48:43. | |
movement of people is damaging UK nationals implement prospects and | :48:44. | :48:48. | |
contributing to the people still unemployed and has not been | :48:49. | :48:56. | |
compensated for by jobs in other countries the European nationals. | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
If you look at the figures over the last five years two thirds of the | :49:01. | :49:05. | |
rise of employment over the last five years has been made up by jobs | :49:06. | :49:08. | |
going to British people. Where I would agree with her is in | :49:09. | :49:14. | |
combination with the welfare reform we have introduced for EU citizens | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
and the tougher control on migration from outside the EU, we should see | :49:19. | :49:24. | |
while fair reform in the UK as the flip side of migration control. We | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
want to make sure it always pays for British people to train up and do | :49:29. | :49:33. | |
the jobs available. We should see immigration control and welfare | :49:34. | :49:35. | |
reform as a way of getting more of our people into work. | :49:36. | :49:41. | |
Thank you Mr Speaker. Does the Prime Minister agree with me it is very | :49:42. | :49:45. | |
important we make the positive case for Britain remaining in the EU? | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
Each of us get ?1200 back for every ?120 we get back, we have lower | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
prices and choice in shops and easier travelling for holidays and | :49:56. | :50:02. | |
businesses. Can the Prime Minister explained how our membership of the | :50:03. | :50:06. | |
EU impact so many aspects of our lives? | :50:07. | :50:09. | |
The honourable lady makes an important point. In all the | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
arguments about single markets and sovereignty we can sometimes lose | :50:14. | :50:16. | |
some of the simple consumer benefits of being a member of the European | :50:17. | :50:21. | |
Union. The things she mentioned about cheap air travel, ease of | :50:22. | :50:25. | |
travel, not having any tariffs, these are things we take for granted | :50:26. | :50:29. | |
now, but simply weren't the case 40 years ago. That is a strong part of | :50:30. | :50:33. | |
the very positive case we should make the remaining in the EU. But | :50:34. | :50:38. | |
with her own constituency in mind I also think we should point of the | :50:39. | :50:42. | |
enormous success of the British car industry, which now employs and is | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
responsible for over 140,000 jobs. That is a great European success | :50:48. | :50:51. | |
story. A lot of those cars go to the European market and we want to make | :50:52. | :50:59. | |
sure that continues, tariff free. Thank you. Our security is | :51:00. | :51:03. | |
guaranteed under Nato and this government's action to meet our 2% | :51:04. | :51:07. | |
commitment is most welcome. I recently visited RAF Odiham in my | :51:08. | :51:21. | |
constituency where the chin-ups -- chinooks base. Would the Prime | :51:22. | :51:28. | |
Minister improve the living quarters for these people? | :51:29. | :51:35. | |
I pay tribute to all the people who service those helicopters. I visited | :51:36. | :51:41. | |
Afghanistan something like 13 times in recent years and their | :51:42. | :51:44. | |
professionalism and brilliance in flying at very low levels is very | :51:45. | :51:48. | |
remarkable. They have rightly been decorated for the work they do. We | :51:49. | :51:53. | |
have an upgraded programme for the chinooks, which means new | :51:54. | :51:56. | |
helicopters replacing part of the existing fleet. Some ?2 million has | :51:57. | :52:03. | |
been spent on RAF Odiham but if more is needed, we shall make sure that | :52:04. | :52:09. | |
happens. In 1949, aged 11 months, my constituent William was diagnosed | :52:10. | :52:14. | |
with polio. He has worked from the age of 15 and continues to work at | :52:15. | :52:20. | |
67 but following a clearly flawed EIP assessment he is set to lose his | :52:21. | :52:25. | |
motor ability card, within three weeks. He said it will leave him | :52:26. | :52:28. | |
unable to leave the House and unable to work. Will the Prime Minister | :52:29. | :52:33. | |
urgently review his case and the case of 14,000 disabled people who | :52:34. | :52:40. | |
have this as an essential lifeline? What we have found so far with | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
personal independence payments is we are spending more money on | :52:45. | :52:48. | |
disability, rather than less money on disability. I will look very | :52:49. | :52:51. | |
carefully at the case. The whole point about PIP compared to DLA is | :52:52. | :53:02. | |
there is a proper medical screening process. I am sure your constituent | :53:03. | :53:08. | |
will welcome us being so close to eradicating polio entirely from our | :53:09. | :53:11. | |
world and this government is committed to going the extra mile | :53:12. | :53:13. | |
and making that happen. Schools in South Suffolk were | :53:14. | :53:23. | |
delighted this week to see the publication of the Government's | :53:24. | :53:27. | |
consultation on fairer funding. Given that the first part of this | :53:28. | :53:31. | |
consultation will focus on the core principles, does my right honourable | :53:32. | :53:35. | |
friend agree with me, one of those principles must be to recognise | :53:36. | :53:39. | |
rural schools face unique and unavoidable costs which are not | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
funded under the current formula? I certainly agree it is right we are | :53:44. | :53:47. | |
examining this formula and trying to achieve better fairness. I think | :53:48. | :53:50. | |
everyone can see that the figures between best funded schools on the | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
less worst funded schools, that gap has got too great. I agree, it will | :53:56. | :54:00. | |
be vital, the specific needs of schools in rural areas are properly | :54:01. | :54:06. | |
considered. Our proposal suggests sending additional funding to all | :54:07. | :54:09. | |
schools in sparsely populated areas. To follow up the question from my | :54:10. | :54:14. | |
right honourable friend, the Leader of the Opposition, that official | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
figures show... It is not funny. 12,000 vacancies in construction are | :54:19. | :54:27. | |
hard to fill due to a lack of skilled applicants. Can the Prime | :54:28. | :54:33. | |
Minister explain why the number of construction apprenticeships have | :54:34. | :54:36. | |
fallen under him? The point is we are building more | :54:37. | :54:40. | |
houses, investing more in construction, training more | :54:41. | :54:45. | |
apprentices. The money is there from the Government and now we are going | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
to have the apprenticeship levy on the larger businesses that will make | :54:50. | :54:52. | |
sure we can fund apprenticeships long through this Parliament. Mr | :54:53. | :55:00. | |
Bellingham. The Prime Minister will be aware of a recent tragic fatality | :55:01. | :55:07. | |
on the A17 in my constituency. Whilst we must await the result of a | :55:08. | :55:11. | |
full inquest and police inquiry, does he agree it is vital the local | :55:12. | :55:16. | |
council is consulted when it comes to looking at new safety measures? | :55:17. | :55:21. | |
I have heard about this tragic accident and I am sure on behalf of | :55:22. | :55:24. | |
everyone we should send our sympathies and condolences to those | :55:25. | :55:27. | |
involved. I think he is right to say and so many of these cases the | :55:28. | :55:32. | |
parish council has a lot of expertise about roads that are not | :55:33. | :55:34. | |
things that could be done and they should be listened to in this and | :55:35. | :55:41. | |
other cases. On Sunday we celebrated Mother's Day | :55:42. | :55:44. | |
and just yesterday International Women's Day. Members opposite | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
rightly working to celebrate women on both occasions. Why has this | :55:49. | :55:54. | |
government introduced cuts to public services, a freeze to child benefit | :55:55. | :55:58. | |
and reductions in work-related benefits that have left mothers ?13 | :55:59. | :56:05. | |
billion worse off? The one thing I share with the | :56:06. | :56:08. | |
honourable lady is it was right to celebrate Mother's Day, I shared it | :56:09. | :56:12. | |
with my mother, but I think I have probably said enough about her for | :56:13. | :56:17. | |
the time being a! Also, it was a privilege to welcome to number ten | :56:18. | :56:20. | |
yesterday some inspirational women from all walks of life, to mark | :56:21. | :56:24. | |
International Women's Day. I'm not saying this government has sold all | :56:25. | :56:27. | |
of these problems. We have more women in work, they are getting | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
higher pay, paying lower taxes, getting more childcare and retiring | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
with better pensions. When it comes to the things government needs to | :56:37. | :56:41. | |
do, we are appointing more women to senior positions, to public | :56:42. | :56:45. | |
appointments. The honours system is properly reflecting women. | :56:46. | :57:01. | |
Some said, what about the pay gap? It is at its lowest published level. | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
We have abolished the pay gap for the under 40s. When it comes to | :57:06. | :57:07. | |
protecting women, this is the Government that criminalised forced | :57:08. | :57:09. | |
marriage and introduced the duty to report female genital mutilation. It | :57:10. | :57:11. | |
set out a specific domestic violence measure. We introduced Claire 's Law | :57:12. | :57:14. | |
so people can find out about violent partners. I accept there is more to | :57:15. | :57:17. | |
be done, but let me say this to the Labour Party, one thing you could | :57:18. | :57:22. | |
help with, no more segregated, political meetings. Let us end the | :57:23. | :57:28. | |
process of having people with bigoted religious views treating | :57:29. | :57:32. | |
women as second-class citizens. I think you should all take the | :57:33. | :57:34. | |
pledge, no more segregated meetings! The UK still has relatively poor | :57:35. | :57:50. | |
superfast broadband and far too many mobile not spots. Great work has | :57:51. | :57:54. | |
been done but what will my right honourable friend be discussing with | :57:55. | :58:00. | |
his right honourable friend the Chancellor, in advance of the Budget | :58:01. | :58:05. | |
Statement next week, in how we can improve coverage further, | :58:06. | :58:08. | |
particularly for rural, small businesses in areas like mine? | :58:09. | :58:13. | |
I think my honourable friend is right to raise this. Since 2010 we | :58:14. | :58:18. | |
have nearly doubled the number of homes and businesses with superfast | :58:19. | :58:22. | |
broadband. We are on track for the 90-95% target but there is more that | :58:23. | :58:26. | |
needs to be done. I think this is something for members right across | :58:27. | :58:29. | |
the House. Ten year is ago we were all rather guilty of leading | :58:30. | :58:34. | |
campaigns against phone masts. Our constituents now want coverage for | :58:35. | :58:38. | |
their Internet, they want coverage for mobile phones. We need to make | :58:39. | :58:43. | |
sure we change the law in all the ways necessary, to make sure the | :58:44. | :58:46. | |
masts are built, we increase coverage and make sure everyone is | :58:47. | :58:49. | |
connected to the information superhighway. Thank you. 76% of the | :58:50. | :58:57. | |
cost of a bottle of whiskey is taxed. Last week the Government's 2% | :58:58. | :59:02. | |
cut in duty Priest revenue by 2.5 million. Well that Prime Minister | :59:03. | :59:07. | |
accepts one of our greatest products as taxed too much and join with me | :59:08. | :59:12. | |
in calling for a further 2% cut in duty in this year's budget? | :59:13. | :59:18. | |
The Chancellor and I have consistently backed Scotland, | :59:19. | :59:21. | |
Scottish whiskey and this vital industry. Let me say this. On the | :59:22. | :59:25. | |
day the profit and loss account comes out for Scotland, you can see | :59:26. | :59:32. | |
there is a ?15 billion gap that Scotland would face if it was | :59:33. | :59:36. | |
outside the United Kingdom. I dread to think what taxation would be have | :59:37. | :59:41. | |
to be levied not just an whiskey but petrol, work incomes, Holmes. That | :59:42. | :59:48. | |
is the prospect of life outside the United Kingdom and why I am so we | :59:49. | :59:55. | |
voted to stay together. The Government has just presented | :59:56. | :00:03. | |
three White papers to Parliament under their self-imposed legal duty | :00:04. | :00:08. | |
to provide information under the European referendum act. The | :00:09. | :00:12. | |
Minister for Europe, during the proceedings between the two houses, | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
undertook to me that the Government's information under that | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
act would certainly be accurate and impartial, as he put it. The three | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
recent White papers are not. My right honourable friend is the | :00:26. | :00:34. | |
enforcer of the ministerial code, which demands ministers give | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
accurate information to Parliament. Will my right honourable friend | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
issue instructions to Foreign Office ministers to review and correct | :00:43. | :00:46. | |
these White papers? Let me say to my honourable friend, | :00:47. | :00:54. | |
we believe in the sovereignty of Parliament. Parliament dictated that | :00:55. | :00:56. | |
these documents would be published and that is why they are being | :00:57. | :01:01. | |
published. On the question of their content, their content has been | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
prepared by civil servants and all the appropriate codes. If he does | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
not agree with some of the content I would say, challenged the content. | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
Have an argument about the content, not the process. | :01:13. | :01:20. | |
The Prime Minister's notes will indicate to him that I raised the | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
question at the National wildlife crime unit this year, I'm delighted | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
to report its funding has now been secured. For the next four years. I | :01:30. | :01:40. | |
take full responsibility for that. I read it on my website, so it must be | :01:41. | :01:47. | |
true! As my mother used to say, it never hurts to say thank you, and I | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
do. Can I ask him on a similar matter | :01:51. | :02:00. | |
how his manifesto pledge on not using animals in circuses is | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
progressing? Can I thank him for raising such good questions. On the | :02:05. | :02:13. | |
circuses and wild animals, we have a manifesto commitment. We did not | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
manage to meet it in the last parliament. We license these things | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
so strictly I think we are talking about one or two circuses. Two, | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
thank you. We are committed to legislating when Parliamentary time | :02:26. | :02:33. | |
allows. Later today colleagues across the House and I will be | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
launching a Parliamentary group on ending homelessness. Will my right | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
honourable friend join me in welcoming the work of organisations | :02:42. | :02:45. | |
around the country, including the Hope Centre in my constituency and | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
pledge as a government we will do all we can to help homeless people | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
and address the causes of homelessness so we can enter this | :02:53. | :02:53. | |
problem once and for all. We hope to build by the end of this | :02:54. | :03:25. | |
Parliament 1 million new homes. All the arguments against homelessness | :03:26. | :03:28. | |
eventually come down to providing effective new homes. | :03:29. | :03:35. | |
Can the Prime Minister imagine the shock when a shop worker discovered | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
he was going to lose money as a result of the introduction of the | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
living wage question that that is because to introduce it be and Q are | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
cutting allowances. As a result he will take home ?50 a week less, or | :03:51. | :03:58. | |
?2600 a year after the hourly rate goes up. Can that Prime Minister and | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
Chancellor in their budget next week ensure that nobody working on a shop | :04:05. | :04:11. | |
takes on less money? We want to see people take hope that more money and | :04:12. | :04:14. | |
that is why we introduced the national living wage which will be | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
at ?9 by 2020. We are cutting the taxes of people like the friend whom | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
the honourable lady refers, will be able to earn ?11,000 from the 1st of | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
April before paying any taxes at all. A recent study led by Imperial | :04:28. | :04:36. | |
College has shown biomass, is progressed through the contracts for | :04:37. | :04:39. | |
difference, could save Bill payers and the Treasury millions of pounds. | :04:40. | :04:48. | |
An industry that supports many jobs in Selby in Cleethorpes. Can the | :04:49. | :04:49. | |
Prime Minister look at this as a sustainable business | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
model? Biomass comes from the US and Canada. Will you look at this so we | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
can try and get it into the programme? I will, but what we have | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
do realise is the extra amount of money we are prepared to put into | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
renewable energy is a finite amount and in the end we have to make sure | :05:09. | :05:15. | |
that what we get is cost effective. I will look carefully at what my | :05:16. | :05:22. | |
friends as. It used to be said in English family's home was their | :05:23. | :05:25. | |
castle. But following the Government's Housing Bill new | :05:26. | :05:35. | |
tenants in social housing will be on pre-5-year contracts. Does the Prime | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
Minister think it is right a student beginning their secondary education | :05:40. | :05:42. | |
may face eviction at the time they come up to their GCSEs and A-levels? | :05:43. | :05:48. | |
We want for their home to genuinely be there on which is why we are | :05:49. | :05:54. | |
extending right to buy so that millions of people will be able to | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
own their own home. As for future tenancies, we want to make sure | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
social housing is therefore the people who need it most. No current | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
tenant is going to be affected. That is why we think this Housing Bill | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
will see more homes built, more homes owned, more homes rented and | :06:10. | :06:12. | |
will be good for housing in our country. | :06:13. | :06:22. | |
Prime Minister's Questions ending for the day, Jeremy Corbyn asking | :06:23. | :06:29. | |
about welfare cuts at a time when corporation tax is cut comic he then | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
moved on to children in poverty and then to the lack of apprenticeships, | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
as he sees it. We'll come back to these things in a moment. What did | :06:38. | :06:43. | |
our viewers make things today Camille,? Jeremy Corbyn chose some | :06:44. | :06:53. | |
good topics today yet 100 questions have not equipped him with the skill | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
of making a point, not once was David Cameron ruffled by the Leader | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
of the Opposition, John agrees, given the faces of the MPs behind | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
Jeremy Corbyn, quantity is not what matters. Mark says, at last Jeremy | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
Corbyn should 70s, his first win of the Prime Minister who showed that | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
again he cannot answer the question and his government does not care | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
about the week, the poor, the sick. Ian says, delighted to hear about | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
the reduction in disability payments, yet no follow up because | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
Jeremy Corbyn missed his chance again. Many people seem to think, | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
good topics although not making the points. He picked good topics | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
because it was a bit scatter-gun, he moved on to something else. | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
Reminiscent of William Hague. One area where he was successful against | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
Tony Blair was that he would ask multiple questions, the Prime | :07:50. | :07:52. | |
Minister has folders in different sections and Tony Blair had problems | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
doing that. The problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he might averaged a | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
century of questions yet he has not matched David Cameron's quarter of a | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
century of experience at Prime Minister's Questions. David Cameron | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
was preparing to a major quarter of a century ago, he is accomplished | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
and can handle it. The problem is you did not really feel that Jeremy | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
Corbyn was scoring any runs, to stick to the cricketing analogy. | :08:20. | :08:22. | |
He's trying to highlight the analogy. The point he wants to make | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
is that David Cameron, you say everything is fine. If so, why are | :08:28. | :08:33. | |
you cutting disability benefit, if everything is fine why is the | :08:34. | :08:35. | |
construction industry in such trouble? The reason they want to | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
focus on the economy is not just because of the Budget next week. | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
They believe Labour lost two elections in a row because it had no | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
credibility on the economy. They need to restore that, and then what | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
the Labour leadership are saying is that they need to have a narrative | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
that the government is complacent and not acknowledging the impact of | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
the cuts and the impact of the falling tax receipts and the fiscal | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
targets of George Osborne. The first question from Jeremy Corbyn was, | :09:05. | :09:10. | |
White were some benefits to the disabled being cut by ?30 a week, | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
which is what Jeremy Corbyn claimed. The Prime Minister did not answer. | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
What's the answer, Dominic? They are moving to a condition where if | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
you've got a condition, you get your jobseeker's allowance and then | :09:27. | :09:28. | |
that's moved to the personal independence payment. That means | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
that you got a personal tailored uplift bearing in mind the impact | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
your condition has on your work prospects. We've got hundreds of | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
thousands, think 293,000 extra disabled people in work compared | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
with two yours ago. It's quite patronising to suggest that because | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
you have a disability you can't be encouraged and incentivised to work. | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
No, but until that happens is it not rather cruel to be cutting the | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
welfare benefits by ?30 a week? It's not a straight cut, that element is | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
moved into the personal tailored assessment of their need. It's not | :10:07. | :10:12. | |
just ticking boxes. They could end up with less? Depends on their | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
condition. We are making sure the welfare system is there for those | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
who need it, and encouraging others who can work to be encouraged and | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
incentivised and supported into work. I think it's an important | :10:24. | :10:29. | |
principle. Would it be wrong if people who are disabled, still | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
looking for work although not able to find it because it's harder in | :10:33. | :10:40. | |
these conditions, would be wrong for them to be economically | :10:41. | :10:42. | |
disadvantaged and they do find the work? Exactly why the personal | :10:43. | :10:44. | |
independence payment should make sure this doesn't happen. It's a | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
much more accurate personally tailored assessment of their | :10:49. | :10:56. | |
personal needs. Lilian Greenwood? I know from my constituent Manuel have | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
contacted me that they really, really anxious about this and don't | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
feel they are getting the support. There was another question about the | :11:05. | :11:07. | |
experiences people have in applying for this payment and losing support | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
and the whole process is making life anxious for them. Are they right to | :11:13. | :11:23. | |
be anxious? Of course. That is the experience. Going through the system | :11:24. | :11:25. | |
of large numbers of appeals being upheld, people aren't getting the | :11:26. | :11:28. | |
support they need and they are being made even more worried as a result | :11:29. | :11:35. | |
of the process. All these changes are difficult and yet the point was | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
made throughout PMQs, a smug you have a vibrant economy, you can't | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
put money into either the welfare system all the schools -- unless you | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
have a vibrant economy. The problem of Jeremy Corbyn is that liberty | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
believes he is coming up with other than pride from the left. You would | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
not want to rescue Britain's welfare system on the backs of the disabled, | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
which? There are no easy cuts left. None of these things are easy. You | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
want to ensure that the welfare budget, a huge proportion of what | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
the government spends, is properly tailored to those who need it. And | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
those who can get into work properly is aborted to do so. I think that's | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
a sensible principle. Is not also sensible to balance the budget, if | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
that is your aim, and those with the broadest backs, not with those who | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
are often the weakest and most anxious in society? Think we do, | :12:34. | :12:41. | |
compared to 2010, if you a millionaire you are paying more | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
income tax. That's a concrete example of how what we do is good | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
for the economy and fairer. This will stand or fall in some cases. | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
There could be cases of disabled people worse off as a result of | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
these changes. I would suggest that would be wrong and embarrassing for | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
the government. The aim, our hope is that a personalised approach to | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
this, assessment based on the need of the individual will avoid that | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
and mitigated more than a more automated ticking boxes approach. We | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
shall see. It might have been an issue Jeremy Corbyn should have | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
concentrated on more. Gerry Downing is a member of a socialist | :13:25. | :13:30. | |
organisation, we understand that he has been readmitted to the | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
membership of the Labour Party. Are you happy with that? Have not seen | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
the detail of what the NEC has decided... It is not a matter of | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
argument, we know he is a Trotskyist revolutionary. The purpose of | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
Socialist Fighters to end capitalism on the planet by socialist | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
revolution. The kind of person who should be allowed to join the Labour | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
Party now given that he wasn't before? That does not sound | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
consistent with our party values so it'll be interesting to find out | :14:04. | :14:10. | |
what the NEC say. He describes the 911 attack as creating outrage which | :14:11. | :14:24. | |
must never... You must be puzzled as to where the NEC have allowed him to | :14:25. | :14:30. | |
rejoin the party. I will be interested to see how they went | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
through their deliberations. He has given support in certain | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
circumstances to Islamic State. Socialist Fight says the defend the | :14:40. | :14:43. | |
fight of Isis against US imperialism. It has called for | :14:44. | :14:49. | |
tactical military assistance in defence of Isis. I have absolutely | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
no truck with those comments. I am as mystified as I am sure you are. | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
It seems quite bizarre that the NEC should allow somebody with these | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
views, a Trotskyist revolutionary, to join the Labour Party. | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
A website has the letter sent think there was an objection, and now you | :15:12. | :15:18. | |
are back in. If John McDonald, the Shadow Chancellor, gets his way, | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
they would do away with the compliance unit, was meant to vet | :15:25. | :15:30. | |
these people. We had a former member of the paedophile information | :15:31. | :15:32. | |
exchange who was allowed in. If John McDonald had his way, you would not | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
have that unit and there would be more of the sort of people coming | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
into the Labour Party. As you are saying, Lillian, this person has a | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
profoundly different worldview to you and a profoundly different | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
worldview to the majority of British voters. Why has the NEC agreed to | :15:49. | :15:57. | |
this? It is from the compliance unit that reports to the NEC. Whether | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
there is a mistake or it is an oversight... It cannot be an | :16:03. | :16:08. | |
oversight? He is a well-known figure and there has been quite a lot of | :16:09. | :16:12. | |
publicity about this. As Lillian is saying, it is a challenge for the | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
Labour Party are they go into the next election allowing people like | :16:17. | :16:19. | |
this... Do you think it would be right to change the rules in the | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
Labour Party so the leader is, if there is a leadership challenge, the | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
existing leader of the Labour Party is automatically, if they want to | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
be, on the next ballot? I think that is a matter for party conference. | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
They decide on constitutional matters and changes. I was asking | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
you? I am happy with the rules as they stand, but it is a matter for | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
Labour members, if they want to bring forward changes to our | :16:47. | :16:57. | |
Constitution, that will be discussed at party conference. But you | :16:58. | :16:59. | |
wouldn't change the rules as they stand at the moment? I have no | :17:00. | :17:01. | |
particular view on changing the rules on that regard, but it is a | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
matter for party members. Are you a party member? I am satisfied with | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
the rules we have got. That is an answer and I thank you for it. Nick, | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
thank you. Budget next week, busy time. | :17:15. | :17:16. | |
Later today MPs are expected to vote on plans to give councils in England | :17:17. | :17:20. | |
and Wales powers to extend Sunday trading for major stores. | :17:21. | :17:22. | |
Well, Ellie's been out with the entirely unscientific | :17:23. | :17:25. | |
Welcome to London's West End, one of the busiest and biggest | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
shopping areas in the whole of the country, | :17:31. | :17:32. | |
but I'm not here for the week's best bargains, oh no - | :17:33. | :17:35. | |
So, should trading hours be extended on a Sunday? | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
Should we extend opening hours on a Sunday? | :17:40. | :17:50. | |
Because I work in retail, and I don't want to work any later | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
But surely you would get the hours back, | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
We may need to get something and then the shop's not | :18:00. | :18:05. | |
A good idea if you don't have to work on a Sunday, | :18:06. | :18:16. | |
Some shops open early, some shops open late, | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
and you never quite know where you are. | :18:20. | :18:21. | |
# We're S H O P P I N G, we're shopping.# | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
You know, you just like to stay in bed later in the morning | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
and when you wake up, you go to the shops and it's already shut. | :18:31. | :18:33. | |
You must have a very long lie in! | :18:34. | :18:36. | |
I am a church organist, so my Sundays | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
are always taken up, usually in the mornings. | :18:42. | :18:44. | |
But there are plenty of other hours in the day to go | :18:45. | :18:47. | |
I work on a Sunday, I look after the elderly. | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
And you know what, I think if they are open, people buy | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
more, so we spend more money, so it's not a good idea. | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
Oh yeah, I didn't think about that actually! | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
Not that many people actually go shopping on a Sunday. | :19:05. | :19:07. | |
You'd be surprised at how dead it is, so an extra three or four | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
Well, they shopped and then they dropped their balls | :19:12. | :19:20. | |
into the mood box and actually the opinions seem to be pretty even | :19:21. | :19:23. | |
Can I just have a little look at that handbag? | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
And Neil Gray from the SNP joins us now from Parliament's central lobby. | :19:28. | :19:43. | |
The SNP definitely going to vote against today? The proposals as they | :19:44. | :19:52. | |
stand, we have said, had proposals we could not countenance. They would | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
disproportionately impact on the retail workers who work on a Sunday | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
in Scotland and we believe they would lose their premium pay as a | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
result. The Government still has an opportunity, however. We have not | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
voted on this yet, they have an opportunity to come forward with | :20:11. | :20:13. | |
proposals we could accept. That would be amending legislation or | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
evolving employment law to Scotland, which is what we have called for | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
from the beginning. But you will be voting with the Tory rebels as it | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
stands? Yes, against the proposals as they stand. It is clear, the | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
evidence from the shop keepers union, and from others, that this | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
would have an effect on the premium pay of Sunday shop workers. You have | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
held this position since before Christmas, as I understand, so why | :20:45. | :20:47. | |
has it taken you so long to make up your mind on this Bill? We have been | :20:48. | :20:51. | |
working to trying convince the Government to take a different view | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
on this. Trying to stitch up a deal with the Government? Not stitch up a | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
deal but provide protections for Scottish shop workers and elsewhere | :21:03. | :21:05. | |
in the United Kingdom, who are going to have their Sunday premium pay put | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
at risk by these proposals. We've been quite clear from the beginning. | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
In them but we made a very clear call to the Government, to look at | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
this again and they have not come back with an offer that is | :21:20. | :21:22. | |
appropriate to us. Just stay with us. Should the Government comeback | :21:23. | :21:28. | |
with a deal then you will win? I honestly think the SNP are just | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
playing political games with this. I'm not sure they are very serious | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
about it at all. It would be devolved from Local Authorities, so | :21:36. | :21:38. | |
there would be a strong local democratic element of this. I would | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
of thought is given the SNP's hole shtick this is something they would | :21:44. | :21:49. | |
embrace. You are a party that wants devolution of power from Whitehall, | :21:50. | :21:56. | |
so why are you standing in the way of people choosing what is right for | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
their constituencies and economies question mark this is would be | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
unworkable if the proposals currently on the table were to go | :22:06. | :22:07. | |
forward. Quite frankly that is a nonsensical | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
argument from the studio. From our point of view, we are very clear. We | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
want to see the protection of Scottish Opera workers who are | :22:18. | :22:21. | |
working on a Sunday and get premium pay for that. Why should the SNP get | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
involved in something that is really only going to affect England and | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
Wales? You have given up the policy and -- on abstaining from issues | :22:30. | :22:36. | |
that do not affect you. People will view it as the party being | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
hypocrites. It is not. It is clear, the evidence is there, the shop | :22:42. | :22:49. | |
keepers union have made it clear. That is why we're taking the line we | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
are. It is absolutely not a hypocritical position to be in. It | :22:54. | :22:59. | |
an impact on Scotland. It is not just the SNP unhappy about it. 24 of | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
your colleagues are going to vote against, or vote for an amendment. | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
What do you say to them? We keep talking on all sides of the House | :23:10. | :23:12. | |
about doing something for the high street. It faces enormous pressure | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
from online retailers. This is a concrete and tangible thing we can | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
do. It would be subject to Local Authorities taking the decision. On | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
the workers rights point, I totally understand anyone who for reasons of | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
faith or family, I have young kids myself, doesn't want work any more | :23:30. | :23:45. | |
on Sunday that is why there would be a clear opt out for those people. | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
But you cannot keep talking about helping the high Street and every | :23:50. | :23:51. | |
time oppose specific measures that would help us do that. Is there any | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
chance the Government will pull this boat if it loses? I'm not sure. I do | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
not have any inside track. I hope it goes through. I think is good for | :23:59. | :24:00. | |
the high Street, for local democracy and we protect those around freedom | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
of choice. You say there is still time for a deal. What would you like | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
to hear, specifically? You said General protection but what would do | :24:08. | :24:13. | |
it for the SNP? Protection for the premium pay shop workers on a Sunday | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
or the devolution of implement law so we can protect our shop workers | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
in Scotland from what would be a regressive move. To have talks lined | :24:22. | :24:29. | |
up with the Government for this? The ball is in their court. No one has | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
come knocking on your door? Not as far as I'm aware. OK, thank you. | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
Buckingham Palace has just announced it has registered a complaint with | :24:40. | :24:47. | |
the independent Press Complaints Commission after it said the Queen | :24:48. | :24:53. | |
had expressed strong views with Nick Clegg. We know if the Queen had | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
anything to say about Europe, she would say it on her favourite | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
programme, which is the Daily Politics. It is now time for lunch, | :25:02. | :25:04. | |
she will be sipping her drink. Now, would you pay to watch a night | :25:05. | :25:12. | |
of comedy, music and poetry to help That's the aim of an event | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
called JC4PM, that's been It's apparently proved very popular | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
at venues in England, but it's been reported that | :25:20. | :25:22. | |
tickets for tonight's show at the Festival Theatre in Edinburgh | :25:23. | :25:24. | |
have proved harder to sell. According to Buzzfeed organisers | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
are blaming the dominance of the SNP Well, one of the first comedians | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
to come out for Corbyn was Grainne Maguire, | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
and she joins us now. Welcome. What is it about the Scots? | :25:36. | :25:47. | |
They don't like your tumour, is that why they are not turning up? You can | :25:48. | :25:52. | |
blame Jeromy for a lot of things but the state of the British live comedy | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
circuit! I thought that was quite healthy. Everyone is watching on | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
television. Are you going to the Festival Hall to night? I cannot | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
make it to night. But stand up for Jeremy are doing dates all around | :26:08. | :26:14. | |
the country. You are filling out places, so why not in Edinburgh? | :26:15. | :26:20. | |
It's Wednesday, it's miserable. How do you know it's miserable? A bit | :26:21. | :26:30. | |
dour in Edinburgh? Comedy promotion is hard. Maybe this is too bigger | :26:31. | :26:36. | |
venue. They did say most venues have been standing room only. But this is | :26:37. | :26:42. | |
one of the largest theatres in Scotland, owing to lack of choice. | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
You have Charlotte Church, Mark steel, Jeremy Hardy... You also, not | :26:48. | :26:55. | |
you personally, but you are including a Labour MSP called Mr | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
Finlay. Maybe it is the politicians they do want to see. I am told he | :27:02. | :27:08. | |
has a great set. He is packing them out. Now you have advertised the | :27:09. | :27:15. | |
fantastic line-up. What kind of jokes do you tell at a JC4PM gig? | :27:16. | :27:26. | |
Remember this is daytime television. The most adorable thing about doing | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
these gigs, you have standard comedians but there is always a | :27:31. | :27:33. | |
politician at the start doing a little five minutes. Most | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
politicians do, I'm not a comedian but I do work with clowns.... | :27:38. | :27:43. | |
However, Siddique Khan has got a strong club ten minutes. Does he | :27:44. | :27:49. | |
question at he does, a strong second career waiting for him. It will be | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
interesting after the election. Kezia Dugdale has bought tickets, | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
but she is not going. What do we read into that? Not very good at | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
diary management! LAUGHTER When is the next one that you are | :28:05. | :28:14. | |
doing? I am doing one in Brixton. There are events all over. It is so | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
much fun, there is a raffle. What is the prize? I can do a few jokes! The | :28:19. | :28:28. | |
second career now. After the failure of the first one! We only have ten | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
seconds. I love Ed Miliband because he looks like David Miliband but | :28:34. | :28:40. | |
reflected in a spoon. You did it in ten seconds, very good! | :28:41. | :28:43. | |
Consider Edinburgh already sold out. There's just time to put you out | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
of your misery and give The year Mark Thatcher got lost in | :28:48. | :28:57. | |
the desert and many got found again. Regard that as a good or bad news | :28:58. | :29:02. | |
story. Press the button. Let's find out who the winner is. | :29:03. | :29:07. | |
Well done! That's it for today, we thank all of | :29:08. | :29:13. | |
our guests for being with us. The One O'clock News is starting | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
over on BBC One now. JoCo and I will be here at noon | :29:18. | :29:19. | |
tomorrow with all the big political It's a huge weekend of sport, | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
live across the BBC. | :29:24. | :29:40. |