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Tomorrow voters across Britain will go to the polls


in the largest set of elections, outside of a general election,


Elections in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland,


English councils, London, police commissioners,


A chance for every voter in the land to cast a ballot.


So what will it mean for the political landscape?


The Government signals that it may give ground on accepting child


Ministers are due to hold talks with Tory rebels in an attempt


It should all provide some good knockabout


for Prime Minister's Questions - we'll have all the action,


All that in the next hour and a half.


Scheduled by the BBC and so far not by government ministers.


And with us for the whole programme today the former Conservative


minister and party chairman, Grant Shapps, and the shadow cabinet


Jon is one of the MPs for Leicester, who's football team


have won something called the Premier League -


Grant's local team is Hatfield Town FC.


Apparently, like Leicester, they also play in blue.


But, as far as we can tell, that is where the the similarities


Anyway, I don't know whether the next 90 minutes will be


like watching Leicester or Hatfield, but I'm hoping there


The government could be about to change its stance


on whether to resettle child refugees who are already in Europe,


With lots of their own MPs concerned about the issue, they could face


defeat in the Commons next week, unless some sort of deal is reached.


And potential Tory rebels are meeting the Immigration Minister


Meanwhile, Sir Erich Reich, who himself came to Britain


on the Kindertransport in the 1930s, has called on the government


Unaccompanied children, they're in Europe and Mr Cameron


thinks they're safe, but they are not.


They hide in woods, they hide from authorities.


All kinds of things and tens of thousands of


children have been lost, nobody knows where they are.


My view is, given I came on what was called the


Kindertransport, Britain should help a little bit more.


Grant Shapps, should the government change its mind and take some of


these unaccompanied child refugees in Europe? Yes. How many? I don't


know, once you get into the detail it becomes quite complicated. What


you don't want to do is create factors which means people decide to


send their kids to Europe and cause more people to risk their lives on


the journey, but I think the problem the government has is, no country in


Europe is doing more in Syria, ?2 million spent in that region, we are


taking another 3000, but the problem is that it kind of, when you get


down to what is happening on your doorstep, looks and feels not quite


right. Has the government got the message? I expect it has. I don't


have any inside information but, fundamentally the Prime Minister is


a decent man, he will be seeing this, you heard what he said. They


have stuck firmly to their guns. We spoke to a number of ministers about


this. They have firmly defended the Prime Minister, the central tenet is


to not taken refugees unless they have a close relative. You think


they will give way on that? I think the concern is real. People have


been dismissive of the concern of creating the situation like in


Germany. Is it a case that migrants can go back to Turkey, those that


cross the sea? Does that remove the pool factor? This is one of many


reasons, you can get into the complexities, this is why it is so


complicated. But you asked the question of whether I think the


government needs to move on it and I think they should. Will it be enough


if the government says it is prepared to allow unaccompanied


children to come to Europe if they have distant relatives? Will that be


enough? I don't know the specifics. My colleagues are closer to the


issue. But I do know like many people in this country, my father


came after being chased out, we are doing more than any other European


nation in Syria to sort it out, but we are in danger of undoing that


good work. What do you say to Grant Shapps, who says the government


should change its mind? I agree with Brad and he made a very reasonable


case. The signal seems to be that the Prime Minister and ministers are


meeting to see if an agreement can be thrashed out. I hope they meet


the Lord who has been moving it in the House of Lords, he was on the


news earlier raising questions about what this deal could be. I hope they


will meet him. An agreement would be allowing 3000? That was the motion I


supported but to be honest if we can reach consensus with the government


I would go along with whatever consensus is reached. There is


already a replacement mechanism in place. Other countries are not doing


their bit. Is enough being done in terms of dealing with child


refugees? I don't think enough is being done but that does not mean we


should not be doing anything. We have heard the stories of children


going rough. I would be happy to go along with whatever consensus is


reached, I just want us to get consensus.


Yes, it is finally upon us, the biggest set of elections outside


Voters in every area of the country will be able to vote


in English Local Council Elections, Scottish Parliament Elections,


Welsh Assembly Elections, Northern Ireland Assembly Elections,


mayoral elections, including for the London mayor,


and Police and Crime Commissioner elections.


And if that wasn't enough there are also two Westminster


by-elections in Ogmore and in Sheffield Brightside.


Here's our Jeremy Vine with a taster of what is in store.


Thursday is very exciting because there's going to be


There is a chance for everyone in the UK to have a vote,


there are even two Westminster by-election in Ogmore and


Let's look first at the Northern Ireland Assembly,


because that's up for election with its complicated,


And then there's the Welsh assembly as well.


Here is the map as it was left last time in 2011.


The question here is whether actually these Labour


strongholds in the south can be dislodged in any way


Plus there is the Scottish parliament.


Let's look at the result five years ago.


They got more than the 65 seats they need for an overall majority.


They govern alone with 69 and left Labour in a distant


Bring on the other parties and we'll see the map tells the story.


This wash of SNP yellow just covering Scotland.


Is there any chance they could do even better this time?


Firstly, the result in 2011 showing the SNP on 46% here.


But actually if we move forwards to 2015, the general election year,


50%, half of the vote for Nicola Sturgeon's party.


Now if they repeat that this year in the Parliamentary elections,


you have to wonder whether any Labour seat is safe.


Let's not forget another election is taking place.


That's for the Police and Crime Commissioner.


Where it's pink, an independent won in that area.


There's almost no end to this, is there?


Liverpool, Salford, Bristol and of course London, the locations.


Not so well in other parts of the South of England,


The Assembly election happening in London as well.


As you can see, this Labour red will help Siddique Khan,


maybe, if he becomes London's Labour mayor.


It will offset Labour losses elsewhere.


Elsewhere, what about those English councils?


Councillors up and down England being elected.


It's worth us looking at what happened in 2008 to Labour.


They had a very, very bad year under Gordon Brown and they've


Gordon Brown in third place in local elections in 2008.


He's in a kind of honeymoon period by this year, 2012.


This is crucial that 2012 was the last year these councillors,


this particular set of councillors, were elected.


And Labour did rather well, didn't they?


So, they had to get 38% just not to lose councillors on Thursday,


The Conservatives, by contrast, only had to do better


We'll bring the graph to the end here and let's have a look and this


And you can see, 35% to the Conservatives and 29 for Labour.


Let's not forget Ukip in there, 13% above the Liberal Democrats.


My goodness, so much data coming our way on Thursday.


And you can see more in-depth results and analysis


with the elction results programme with Huw Edwards tomorrow night


We're also joined now by the SNP's Deputy Leader Stewart Hosie.


Let me start with the English local elections. Grant Shapps, why should


voters trust the Tories when even the Prime Minister's Mum saves a


petition opposing cuts to the council? Not all councils are doing


the right thing. I don't have all the details but not every council


gets it right. On balance, the Conservative council does a good


job. My local council, they faced a budget that was the near to making


the council go bust and years later the council is perfectly solvent.


How can the majority of Conservative councillors be doing the right thing


when Gary Porter, he says, even if councils stop filling in potholes,


maintaining parks, close children centres, libraries, leisure centres,


turn off every street light, they will still not have saved enough


money to plug the financial black hole. Look at the reality. That is


the reality! People said if we have these cuts there will be councils


going bust. I am not aware of any council that has. He is the Tory


leader of local government. He probably has an agenda about getting


more money to local government. So he is wrong? Yes, he is wrong. I


don't think local government is about to go bankrupt. If you look


back six years, if councils undertake the kind of cut they had


in the last parliament they will go bust, you said, the answer is, the


government has given flexibility to local authorities including the


ability to keep 100% of business rates. They have put the future of


local government financing in the hand of local authorities. Are you


denying that has been deep cuts to important services? There has been


tough times all round. I did not say that. I am telling you as I see it,


I've not seen a single Council which has run into the kind of financial


Armageddon that was predicted. By better sharing, doing things in more


intelligent ways, using the benefits of business rate retention, we are


seeing councils rostering. I've got a good idea for something to save


on, traffic lights, we've had a massive increase in out-of-control


junctions. Cut down on that. I am sure getting rid of traffic


lights will be a huge advantage. About 16 billion pounds saving each


year. Is there any cuts to local government? We think it is unfair.


The poorer councils in poorer areas are disproportionately cut to some


other councils. We did that on the Sunday Politics show, that cuts to


Labour areas per Capita have been higher than Tory areas. Are you


against any kind of cuts now to local government? Jeremy Corbyn and


John McDonnell have been clear of the scale of the cuts, hitting a


surplus target later in this Parliament. So we don't need some of


these cuts they are forcing through. I understand you don't like a number


of the Tory cuts and they may be ideological, but are you against any


further cuts? We don't think these cuts are necessary to hit the


surplus at the end of the parliament. We feel these cuts are


falling unfairly on the poorest areas, and we don't think it is the


right way to approach local government finance. Are you


depressed, given the number of cuts made, given the budget that


unravelled very quickly this year, the embarrassment of the Prime


Minister over the Panama papers, and so on. Rather than fighting these


elections fair and square you embroiled in an anti-Semitism row in


the Labour Party? I am depressed about it. I want to be talking about


cuts to local government, rising class sizes and the waiting list for


hospital appointments and the budget and the cuts George Osborne tried to


do to disability benefits. It is a problem. We are told it is up to 50.


As I understand it that is not the correct figure. You don't think it


is just a smear as Diane Abbott described it? The Labour Party is


not an anti-Semitic party. Where we find individuals through their


Twitter and Facebook accounts or high profile individuals going round


TV studios and making offensive remarks, we deal with them, suspend


them and we send the message we don't want people with those views


in the Labour Party. Grant Shapps, you are a former chairman of the


Conservative Party, the electoral commission is meeting today with


police and prosecutors to see if they get more time to launch


possible criminal investigations into ?38,000 of Tory campaign


spending that seems to have been wrongly lodged. I will put it no


higher than that for the moment. This shambles happened under your


watch? I am not one to shirk my responsibilities, I resigned from my


last government job to take responsibility related to somebody


else. I can tell you that compliance was not my area. So you knew nothing


about this? I didn't. As chairman of the party you allowed expenses of


these campaigners who were going to local constituencies, staying in


local hotels, you allowed them to be charged to the national campaign and


not the local campaign? I was co-chairman, campaigning was my


side, not the money and the finance. You were behind the battle bus


business? The campaigning, not the finance. You didn't wonder whether


charges being made. I don't like shirking my responsibilities but


this side of things was not my side. Is it not palpably wrong, since


these campaigners were going to help local Conservatives fight, that any


expenses, hotel bills in particular, should be charged to the


constituency? Everything has to be done within the law. It is for the


electoral commission and others to judge that. If you are asking me


about the specifics, compliance wasn't my side. I am asking you


about the printable, if a bunch of Tories go to help, not a national


campaign, but fight for a local Tory candidate, their costs must go on


the constituency budget? As I understand it, you have to apply


costs as they fall. But there are lots of areas where it isn't


straightforward. For example, what if the Prime Minister and others


come into town and, does that go on to the local constituency? It was


all filed correctly, I believe. They have admitted, if you were not in


charge of compliance, who was? Other people in the party at the time.


Who, Lord Feldman? I don't want to go into details. If you weren't in


charge of compliance, you were obliged to know who was? There was a


separate compliance department. You want to spread the blame. As a party


you are bang to rights on misappropriation of electoral


spending and it is a criminal offence. They have said they have


complied correctly. The electoral commission is there to make those


decisions. I am asking for your view as chairman of the time? It was all


correctly done. Never one to shirk my responsibilities, you are going


on a point I cannot help you with. Clearly, should the electoral


commission be granted more time so this doesn't get kicked into the


long grass? They need more time to investigate this, agree? I don't


know. You don't know? What did you do as party chairman? You are asking


me about something that happened over a year ago which I had no


control over. It is not for me to decide. Education is under the


control of the Scottish Parliament. If you are a poor student from a


poor background, why is Scotland now the worst part of the United Kingdom


in which to try to get to university? It is not. If you think


what we have done to help people, nurseries maintained. EMAs


maintained, tuition is free. There is an issue about the kids of the


poorest backgrounds get into university, not just in Scotland.


But it is worse in Scotland? That is why the First Minister has made it


clear we want to see 750 million over the terms of this Parliament to


get 20% of the University intake from children from the 20% poorest


backgrounds. You have been in power for nine years, why is it, if you


are from a poor background you have the least chance of getting to


university than any part of the United Kingdom? These are marginal


differences. I will give you the figures. If you are from the top 20%


in England, you have 2.5 times more chance of getting to university than


if you are from the bottom 20%. In Scotland, it is 3.5 times, 30%


worse, in a country which has always prided itself, that poor kids will


get a decent education. Why is it worse than Northern Ireland, Wales


and England after nine years of your rule? We recognise the problem,


which is what we have set about changing. But you have been there


for nine years. With 20% of the kids from the poorest backgrounds


targeted to get 20% of university places, it is not all about


university education. As you know, we have 119,000 full-time college


place it which lead to positive out comes. 25,000 apprenticeships every


year, moving to 30,000. Youngsters have the choice to go to university,


do a trade, go to college, go straight into work. You are right,


it is not always about university, so let's look at the standards of


reading, writing and numeracy, check that you whether you go into


university, go to work, or further education. According to a survey,


the reading, writing and counting, an old-fashioned word, 413 and 14


new has been falling since 2011. -- 13 and 14 new roles. It is amongst


poor pupils. That is why we're putting in extra the extra teachers


and the new build schools. You have been in power for nine years, why


has this happened on your watch? These things come and go under every


administration, every authority and government. It isn't wringing our


hands when we identify a problem... You have failed to rectify the


problem. You make the point it has fallen for the last couple of years.


It rose in the previous years we were in power. You are falling back.


You cannot stand still, you have to look at the numbers and fix it. The


attainment funding has been put in place. All of the things we are


doing is to remedy the problems you identify. In 2007, your party


promised to reduce the average class sizes in primary schools in Scotland


down to 18. What is it washed and Mark it is higher than that, sadly.


It is a lot higher, 23.3. You took money from primary schools and put


it into free tuition fees for middle-class students. At the


beginning of the interview you were going on about people going to


university, but you cannot allow people to go to university and


support them using unlimited amounts of money over steer times. We had to


make difficult choices. I taking money away from primary schools? The


money and the choices we are making now will remedy the problems you are


identifying. You are right want comparing England with Scotland.


Spending per head in primary and secondary school is higher in


Scotland. School spending has fallen by 5% in real terms and has


increased in England by 3%. As much as spending per head primary and


secondary remains higher in Scotland than it does in the rest of the UK,


and that is the right thing to do. Stuart Posey, thank you very much.


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take a look at Big Ben, Yes, Prime Minister's


Questions is on its way. And that's not all -


Laura Kuenssberg is here. You have had a good track record in


telling us what Jeremy Corbyn is going to go on, so no pressure. The


Prime Minister is going to announce a form of climb-down over taking in


child refugees from continental Europe. The details haven't been


confirmed, but I have been told to expect him to make an announcement


about what might he branded humanitarian visas, a time-limited


permission the children who are vulnerable in camps on mainland


Europe to be brought to this country. It is not exactly what the


many rebels who have been amassing over this have been asking for, but


there have been lots of discussions about compromises behind-the-scenes


in the last 36 hours. I think David Cameron will give ground on this in


the last half an hour. This time last week, he was absolutely adamant


in the House in response to that Cooper's blistering questions in the


last couple of days, Downing Street under severe pressure with the


referendum going on, helps matters from the rebel's point of view has


made the calculation he will have to move. Was it just the waiter


political opinion. Grant Shapps said the Prime Minister should move on


this. That is the prospect. Losing next week under pressure during the


referendum campaign is not something where they want to go.


greater resilience and a great team effort. I've had meetings with


others and additional meetings later today. Martin Day. May I start by


associating myself with the comments regarding Leicester City. The


Foreign Secretary said there is a need for a new initiative in the


Syrian dialogue to keep it alive. Will the Prime Minister withdraw his


ear strakes and redouble his efforts? What I think we should do


is both things, continue to hit Daesh terrorists but do everything


we can to support dialogue between the opposition and the Syrian regime


which is what the process has been about. My right honourable friend


will be aware that Conservative candidates are standing and Labour


will lose some seats. We are aware of the stamping out of racism and


anti-Semitism. Would my right honourable friend join me and our


colleagues in condemning the actions and propaganda of Hezbollah and


Hamas? I wish my candidates well. If you want well-run services and want


to keep costs and taxes don't it is right to vote Conservative. But the


point he makes about Hamas is important. They are a terrorist


group who believe in killing Jews. Whatever the right honourable


gentleman says about combating anti-Semitism, it will mean nothing


until he withdraws the remark that they were his friends. He should do


it today. I join the Prime Minister in


congratulating Leicester City on their amazing achievements. I hope


it is not an indication that he is going to support another football


team or is he going to stick with the two he has got already?


Later today, commemorations begin for Holocaust Memorial Day in


Israel. I hope there is agreement across all parts of this house in


sending our best wishes to those commemorating the occasion, and


sending a statement that anti-Semitism has no place in our


society whatsoever and we have a duty to oppose it. Tomorrow, people


will go to the polls in council elections in England. Nine of the


ten most deprived councils are set to see cuts higher than the national


average with eight facing cuts more than three times the national


average, meaning less money for youth services, adult social care


and those in areas of the greatest need. The Prime Minister used to say


we are all in it together. What happened to that? Left me -- let me


join the right honourable gentleman in saying that we should always


support Holocaust they. -- Holocaust Day. I am going to press him on this


point. He said, it will be my pleasure and my honour to host an


event in Parliament where our friends from Hezbollah will be


speaking, I have also invited friends from Hamas to speak as well.


They believe in killing Jews around the world. If he wants to clear up


the problem of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party, now is a good time to


start, withdraw that they are your friends. Mr Speaker, I've made it


clear that Labour is an antiracism party and there is no place for them


in it. We have suspended all members and -- who have taken part in


anti-Semitism and established an enquiry. The point he was making


relate to a discussion I was hosting in order to promote peace process


and it was not an approval of those organisations, I absolutely do not


approve of those organisations. Mr Speaker, the reality is vulnerable


people are being abandoned in this country. The Prime Minister has said


that social care and support for the elderly is a priority for him. If


that is the case, why has he cut 4.5 billion since 2010, leaving 300,000


older people without care and support they need to live in


dignity? We are putting more money into social care and allowing


councils to raise council tax. I'm afraid he will need to do this one


more time. He referred to Hamas and Hezbollah as his friends. Are they


your friends or not? Those organisations believe in persecuting


and killing Jews. They are anti-Semitic, racist organisations.


He must stand up and say that they are not his friends. Mr Speaker,


obviously anyone that commits racist attacks or is anti-Semitic is not a


friend of mine. I would also invite him to think for a moment about the


conduct of his party and his candidate in the London mayoral


election. The way in which they systematically are smearing my


friend, the member for tooting, who is our candidate for mayor. I wish


him well and I invite the Prime Minister to undertake to ensure that


the Conservative Party assists from the actions it is taking in smearing


my friend. Last week, the Joseph Rowntree foundation's destitution


report found 1.25 million people in Britain were unable to afford the


essentials to stay fed and clean. When will the stronger economy mean


that fewer people need to use food banks? It means there are over 2


million more people in work than when I became Prime Minister, you


can earn ?11,000 before you pay tax, and we've introduced a national


living wage, which was never done in 13 years of a Labour government. I


reject what he says about Labour's candidate for the London mayoralty.


We are not responsible for everything anyone says when they are


with us, but there is a pattern of behaviour for the honourable member


for Tooting. He shared a platform with the man whose trained the


ringleader of the 7/7 attacks. He shared a platform with a man who


called for Jews to be drowned in the ocean. He described this as flowery


language. If he wants to know why they have a problem with


anti-Semitism it is because they share platforms with anti-Semitic


people. Withdraw the remark about Hamas and Hezbollah being your


friends. Last week the Prime Minister tried to smear my friends,


the Minister for Tooting. It turns out that one of those is an active


Conservative supporter. He should reflect on the word is said by Lord


Lansley, that racism was endemic within the Conservatives. We have


set up an enquiry and I would suggest he does the same. It has


been said that the housing bill removes the security these people


need, it is fundamentally wrong. Homelessness is up a third. A voter


wrote to me and said he and his family will lose their home if the


housing bill goes through. Why can't the Prime Minister followed the


example from the Welsh Labour government in placing illegal


responsibility -- a legal responsibility to help people during


a housing crisis? What this government has done in England,


rebuilt twice as much council housing in the last six years as


Labour did in 13. I will not let this rest about the honourable


member for Tooting. He raised the case for Ghani. Do you want to know


the views of the person your leader has just quartered? He described


women... The honourable member for Islington may be interested. He


described women as subservient to men, he said homosexuality was an


unnatural act. He stood on a platform with people who wanted an


Islamic state. That is why his attempts to deal with anti-Semitism


are utterly condemned to failure. He will not even condemn people who sit


on platforms with people like that. I was trying to help the Prime


Minister, I did point out that the gentleman concerned is a


conservative. Maybe he would think about that.


Another former Conservative candidate said, I will be voting


Labour, I am ashamed of the repulsive campaign of hate. Mr


Speaker, homelessness has been reduced by 67% in Wales since the


new regulations came in. Why can't he do the same in this country?


Inequality is getting worse, education should be a route out of


poverty. But new figures show that the number of people participating


on an adult education course fell by a fifth. How can we tackle


inequality when the Prime Minister is taking away opportunities for


people to find a pathway out of poverty. Inequality has gone down


under this government. It is because we've got a growing economy, a


living wage, more jobs, people paying less tax. I say to him, we


are investing in the schools to give people opportunities, schemes to


allow people to own homes. He opposes those things because the


truth is, he may be a friend of Hamas but he is an enemy of


aspiration. Mr Speaker, politics is about


choices. The Prime Minister cart... Order, order. Order, order. Let me


very gently say to the assiduous but slightly overenthusiastic whip, the


member for Hexham, his role is to be seen and not heard. No further noise


from the honourable gentleman today or his sidekick to his right. We


will not shout people down in this chamber. The quiet or leave. Very


simple. Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you Mr Speaker. This government has cut


capital gains tax for the richest, every turn they make the wrong


choices. Tomorrow, people can make their own choices about the crisis


of social care, the housing crisis in this country. The unprecedented


cuts to local councils in areas of greatest need. The cuts to further


education, taking opportunities away from young people. The choices have


been made will stop they cut taxes for the rich. We want to ensure


there is proper taxation to ensure there are decent services for the


rest. Prime Minister. Tomorrow is about choices, you can choose a


party on the side of security for hard-working people, who wants to


make sure there are more jobs, better pay, lower taxes, good


schools for your children, a seven-day NHS you when you need it.


Or the other choice, you can back a party that puts extremists


overworking people. And is incapable of providing the leadership your


local council needs, or the country needs.


Does my right honourable friend agree with me in order to create a


northern powerhouse that can produce innovation and prosperity,


investment is needed in vital transport links in northern cities?


Of particular concern to my constituents is the junction of the


834 and the A5 60 Gatley. Will the Prime Minister and his ministers


meet with me and discuss how we can keep traffic moving in and out of


Manchester and alleviate congestion in my constituency of Cheadle. She


is right to raise this and that is why we established transport for the


North to look at schemes like the one she proposes, so we can speak


with one voice. It is why we are investing 13 billion. Planning for


the next strategy is now underway. It is the right time to make the


point that she does. Last week, the Prime Minister took issue when I


raised the issue of unaccompanied Syrian refugee children in Europe.


And the candid transports of the 1930s. Since then he has been


written to by the chairman of Kindertransport. He said the echoes


of the past haunt many fellow and I. I feel it is incumbent on us to


demonstrate our compassion and human compassion to provide sanctuary to


those in need. Why has it taken so long and the threat of a


Parliamentary defeat for the Prime Minister to begin changing his mind.


Let me pay tribute to the gentleman the honourable member raises. And


also, let's be clear, no country has done more than others when it comes


to Syrian refugees. No country has raised more money and only the


United States has spent more money. I do want us to proceed with as much


support across the House as we can. It is right to stick to the


principle we shouldn't be encouraging people to make this


dangerous journey. It is right to stick to the idea we keep investing


in the refugee camps and neighbouring countries. It is right


not to take part in the EU relocation and resettlement schemes,


which have been, in my view, a failure. We are taking in migrants,


child migrants with the direct family scheme. We will talk to Save


the Children to see what we can do for children who came here before


the EU Turkey deal was signed. What I don't want to do is take steps


that will encourage people to make this dangerous journey. Otherwise,


our actions, however well-meaning, could result in more people dying,


rather than more people getting a good life. Last week I accused the


Prime Minister of walking by on the other side when he defended his then


policy opposing further help for unaccompanied refugee children in


Europe will stop if, what we are hearing now, is the beginnings of a


U-turn, I very much welcome it as I'm sure all members on side of the


House do. I encourage him to think more about what can be done, given


the Kindertransport help 10,000 children from Europe. I asked the


Prime Minister to thank Lord Alf Dobbs and all campaigners who have


worked hard for the UK to live up to the example and the spirit of the


Kindertransport. I think all those people deserve recognition for the


work they have done to put this issue so squarely on the agenda. I


do reject the comparison with the Kindertransport. And for this


reason, I would argue that what we are doing primarily which is taking


children from the region, vulnerable people from the camps, going to the


neighbouring countries and taking people into our country, housing,


clothing and feeding them and making sure they have a good life, that to


me is like the Kindertransport. To say the Kindertransport is taking


today, children from France, Italy or Germany, safe countries that our


democracy, that is an insult to those countries. Because of the


steps we are taking, it won't be necessary to send the amendment back


to the other place, the amendment doesn't mention a number of people.


We will go round the local authorities and see what more we can


do. But let's stick to the principle we should not be taking new arrivals


to Europe. The Department of Health are looking to introduce a self DNA


test for pregnant women, in order to reduce the number of miscarriages.


This will have the consequence of increasing the number of abortions


with those with down syndrome. I know there is nobody in this House


who cares more for those with special needs for protection and the


safety of those with special needs, so will the Prime Minister meet with


me and representatives of the East Lancashire down syndrome support


group to look at ways to protect those with down syndrome and it will


not simply be screened out? He raises an important issue. A local


people of down syndrome parents came to my constituency surgery on Friday


and made these arguments to me. I am taking this up with the Department


of help to make sure all the processes are followed. There are


moral and ethical issues that need to be considered in these cases. On


the other hand, we have to respect the view that women want to have


screening and testing about the health of their children. We should


be in favour of maximum transparency. On the basis it is


optional, rather than mandatory, but it is part of routine care. Health


Secretary will have to find a way through this, but we have to make


sure we go about it in the right way. UNESCO car components for Ford


and Nissan cars and employs hundreds of people, including from my


constituency. I'm sure the Prime Minister knows the need to get right


our manufacturing industry. Does he agree with the managing director,


Mike Matthews, who said it would be business suicide for the UK to leave


the EU? I listen to all the business voices, particularly those in


manufacturing, and so many say we are better off in a reformed


European union. We get an enormous amount of investment from Japanese


motor industries. I will be welcoming the Japanese Prime


Minister to the UK tomorrow, when I am sure this is on the agenda.


Closed question, Doctor Julian Lewis. Nato is the cornerstone of


Britain's defence but our place in the EU is a vital part of protecting


national security. It helps by ensuring the issues are settled by


dialogue and helping to provide assistance in particular


circumstances, for example, the Balkans. I entirely agree with the


Prime Minister's remarks about Nato. Does he accept that whilst


dictatorships often attacked democracies or other dictatorships,


democracies seldom, if ever, go to war with each other. If an aim of


the EU, is to prevent conflict between its own members, as in World


War I and World War II, is it not heading in precisely the wrong


direction by trying to create an unelected supranational government


of Europe, which is accountable to nobody? My honourable friend has


very long standing and passionate views on this. I will make a couple


of points. I don't think we should forget some of the country is now in


the European Union, until recently, were not democracies, but what forms


of dictatorship. The second point, those countries that have worked


towards an omission of EU have had to put in place all sorts of


democratic and other norms to help them on their way. The final point,


we have had an unparalleled period of peace and prosperity in Europe


and my argument with me, whether you want to attribute all of that to


Nato, or some of that to the EU, why would you want to put it at risk?


The findings of the NHS in England report into the sudden closure of


Bootham Park mental health hospital in your, has confirmed the


relationships and authorities between all NHS bodies and is


defined under the health and social care at 20 of 12 are dysfunctional


and failed patient at -- patient safety. Harm occurred and life has


been lost. Will the Prime Minister accept his health act has to change


due to the serious risk created and in line with NHS England's


recommendations? I will look carefully at what she said my


understanding is she called for action on an outdated and dangerous


facility last year. That is what happened. I am pleased action was


taken, it wasn't fit for purpose. The CQC identified serious and


life-threatening issues on patient safety and they were not right. As a


result, there was a decision to close and reopen the facility after


the changes. You will have incidents of poor practice. What matters, do


we intervene fast enough and put them right. At this case, I will


look again at what she said, but it does look like action was taken. The


Christian News Edie and sheer children in Syria are suffering from


genocide by Daesh and we should recognise it as such. My urge to the


Prime Minister, to indeed do more to replicate the Kindertransport of the


1930s. That is what we are doing in taking children directly from the


camps in Syria. If we were to take 16-year-olds from a safe environment


in Europe, we would be causing more misery and encouraging the people


traffickers. He asked me two questions, whether there is more we


can do to label what has happened as genocide. This has always been


something done under a legal definition, but I believe very much


it is clearly heading, there is a strong case for saying it is


genocide. I hope it will be portrayed unspoken as such. On the


issue of the Kindertransport, I would agree, we have an enormous


amount of what we can be proud of. The money we put into the camps, we


raised more in London on Monday than any humanitarian conference has ever


raised in the world. We are going to do more for children already


registered in Europe after, before the EU Turkey deal. But the


principle we should try to cling do is we shouldn't do anything that


encourages people to make the perilous journey. That has been the


cornerstone of our policy and it should remain the case. For the


benefit of the House and 410 and 11-year-olds up and down the


country, will the Minister explain what the past progressive tense is.


Will he set out his definition of a modal verb? I will say to the


honourable lady, the point of these changes is to make sure our children


are better educated than we are. That is why I am delighted with


three children in state schools going off to do these tests. I am


delighted they are going to be. Thank you Mr Speaker. Three years


ago, three years ago... Order, order. Three years ago five members


of a family from County Durham were killed in a tragic accident A18. The


coroner said he had no confidence in the work of the proposed work of the


highway authority to remedy the situation. The council wants to do


all they can and have committed to carry out the work. But resources


are very limited. Could my right honourable friend give serious


consideration to an application from the council for additional


resources? I will have a close look I will look to see if more


evidence can be done to make it safe. Eritrea was described as the


North Korea of Africa in the recent inaugural all-party group meeting.


There was government forced indefinite constriction. Will the


Prime Minister personally and urgently review Home Office guidance


which says it is safe to transport asylum seekers back to Eritrea? I


will look at what he says. We know Eritrea is a deeply, undemocratic


and autocratic country. It has done appalling things to its people and


that is one of the reasons why so many of those seeking to cross the


Mediterranean, through the Libyan route, have come from a country.


When I have the opportunity to meet the Eritrea leadership in Malta, I


made those points very strongly. Four years ago, I asked my right


honourable friend on behalf of my mother, if the EU referendum vote


could be brought forward because of her age. She was then 100. She now


wishes to know if she needs to set a world record for longevity before


the Chilcott report is published? I think I can reassure Maud, that this


summer she will have a double opportunity to deal with these


things. I referendum on June the 23rd and I'm sure the Chilcott


report will come not too much longer after that. I imagine she will want


a backbench business debate on the matter. Tata steel wishes to


complete the sale of its assets by the middle of June and one referred


bidder in place by the end of this month. Does the Prime Minister think


it is a realistic time frame and there will be a credible process of


due diligence? What processes is the Prime Minister taking to make sure


Tata is making good on its promises as a responsible seller? The


positive news is the deadline yesterday was met by a number of


serious enquiries of interest into buying all of Tata, and that is good


news. We need to work intensively with Tata and the buyers to get the


list down to those who are seriously intending to bid. What it is a short


timetable. What we are doing is talking intensively with Tata to


make sure they do everything they can to make sure this is a serious


sales process. The Prime Minister made an important announcement with


regard to refugee children. Obviously, time is of the essence


because of the peculiar vulnerability of children without


the guidance and protection of their families. Could the Prime Minister


give an indication to the House of how quickly he expects to have those


arrangements in place? I am grateful to my right honourable friend, who


has spoken passionately about this issue. I don't see any reason why


there needs to be a long delay. We need to carry on conversations with


local councils, because many of them, particularly in the south of


England, are under pressure because of the number of child refugees who


have come. Then hopefully we can make progress during this year.


Documents leaked earlier this week appeared to confirm what most have


feared, that the transatlantic trade and investment partnership makes


unacceptable concessions to public health and safety regulations,


opening the doors for US investors to sue for loss of rockets. Will the


Prime Minister recognise the concern raised by the French president and


Talbot House what this government is seeking for a national health


service and public service? This is the register of red herrings. The


health service is completely protect did under this agreement, as it is


under other agreements. They're all sorts agreements people might be


against free trade and wanting to see an expansion of and investment


and jobs. People should be honest and say they don't want to see these


things happen instead of inventing total red herrings. Calm yourself,


Mr Campbell, you are supposed to be a senior statesman in the House.


Calm down. Take up yoga, I have told you before. Cheryl Murray. The


lifeboat celebrates its 150th anniversary this year in my


constituency. Will he congratulate them, not just the new one, but all


of them who keep us safe at sea? I am very happy to do that, in


conjunction with my honourable friend. Very brave people, having


met some of them, especially during the flooding earlier in the year.


They put their lives at risk all the time to save others. They are the


bravest. What matters is what works. In the long-term interests of the


country, fixed term parliaments are an important of that. Can the Prime


Minister ensure his government's performance includes the long


overdue creation of a centre evidence on sexual abuse of children


something I raised in PMQs with Margaret Thatcher. We can deal with


the awful consequences of child sex abuse on victims and perpetrators,


but we must use early intervention expertise to stop it from happening


in the first place. Will the Prime Minister backed the excellent work


of ministers and members from all parties and get this much-needed


centre up and running without delay, within the five-year term of this


government? I am glad the honourable gentleman rescued his own question


with those last words. We are grateful to him, constitutionally at


least. I am sorry it has taken a question


in 1989 to get an answer. Setting up a centre of expertise on sexual


abuse is what the Home Office is doing. It will identify and share


high-quality evidence. Alongside this, the Department for Education's


Centre will ensure social workers across the country can learn from


the best examples. It is a good example of government reform, which


I know he supports. The Prime Minister and we aren't these benches


can be proud of the fact, in recent years we have reduced relative


poverty and income inequality. We are a one nation party, or we are


nothing. Does he agree with Lord rose, the leader of the Remain


Campaign that if we were to lead the EU and exercise greater control over


immigration for the sake of public services, wages would rise even


faster? What would happen, if we were to lead the EU, we would see an


impact on our economy that would be negative. That is the view of the


Bank of England, the IMF, the OECD and a growing number of


international bodies. Anybody who wants to make this choice, it is a


choice for the British people to make. We have to be clear of the


economic consequences. In 1972, aged 19, nine months married and six


months pregnant with their first child, my constituent, Susan


received the knock on the door to say her husband had been killed in


action in Northern Ireland. Yet when she married and found love again,


she lost all compensation for her and her daughter. She still has no


compensation for having made that huge sacrifice. It is a disgraceful


way to treat those who have lost loved ones serving our country. Will


the Prime Minister meet with me and Susan to discuss this case and the


injustice which still faces war widows in this country Western Mark


I will make sure she gets the meeting and the attention she


deserves. I know the Minister met with the war Widows Association to


put forward their case. It was this government but did make a historic


change, so war widows who remarried from April one 2015, would retain


their war widows pension. That was a change long as four and only


delivered under this government. At the moment, we are of the view of


the long-standing policy of successive governments, we shouldn't


make these changes and apply them retrospectively. Yesterday the


foreign affairs select committee started our enquiry on Anglo Russian


relations. This afternoon, I have a Westminster Hall debate on Anglo


Russian relations. Despite the tension that exists, will the Prime


Minister give us an assurance he will redouble his efforts to lower


tensions with his fellow permanent member of the UN Security Council?


Of course we want to keep tensions low and the one good relations, but


we cannot ignore the fact Russian backed and direct its separatists


have effectively tried to redraw the boundaries of Europe. When we


consider how dangerous exercises like that have been in the past, we


have to take it extremely seriously in the present.


Can I thank the Prime Minister for joining Leicester MPs and the rest


of the planet in congratulating Leicester City football club on


their historic success in the Premier League. During this amazing


season, the local Leicester hero, Gary Lineker, thought the idea of


Leicester winning was so far-fetched, he said if they did


when he would present match of the day in his underwear.


As an Aston Villa supporter and my commiserations to the Prime Minister


on their season, does he agree in politics, as well as in football,


when you make a promise, you should keep it? I absolutely agree. I have


been watching everything Gary Lineker has said since. He is not


quite answering the question. Something nobody gets away with in


this House. I hope it is the start of him joining the blue team.


As PMQ's finally comes to an end, an extraordinary Prime Minister's


Questions, not just because of the length but also because the Prime


Minister and the Leader of the Opposition were like ships passing


in the night. Jeremy Corbyn began by asking about local spending, an


appropriate question, David Cameron replied by asking if he still


thought he was friends with Hamas and Hezbollah, the militant groups


lined up against Israel. Jeremy Corbyn went on to ask about


government spending, the Prime Minister asked if he was still


friends with Hamas and Hezbollah. So it went on for six questions, then


it spilled over into the London mayoral candidate, with, inevitably,


Zac Goldsmith being brought up, he has made comments about the


platforms, the Prime Minister hitting back at Jeremy Corbyn for


the platforms he has shared, and vice versa. Just when you thought it


could not get any more unusual or interesting, Angus Robertson stood


up and asked the question about the refugees, children, unaccompanied


child refugees and whether the government was changing policy.


After a long answer, it became clear that David Cameron has changed


policy, and the amendment in the House of Lords, the Prime Minister


slipped and at the very end of his answer that they will now accept


that amendment. There we go. It was long but it was unusual. Most people


wrote in about the exchanges between the Prime Minister and Jeremy


Corbyn. It went down hill from there. All he needs to do is


withdraw the comments about Hamas. The Prime Minister has raised a


problem for Jeremy Corbyn. The Speaker should remind the


increasingly red-faced David Cameron that it is questions to the Prime


Minister, not the Leader of the Opposition. Another agrees,


disgraceful from the Speaker letting David Cameron hijack PMQs. What do


we make of it? It was extraordinary, and extraordinarily brutal. David


Cameron trying to use every single second to transfer it into Jeremy


Corbyn's question Time. Trying to change it. The Labour Leader kept


trying to return to the subject he wanted to talk about. I think it was


a very memorable session because it was more like a very rough and tough


campaign debate rather than what that is meant to be about, which is


the Prime Minister of the day being held to account on the big issues of


the day. It was not until Angus Robertson got to his feet that we


got to anything like the traditional format. We have had the


anti-Semitism row rumbling on in the Labour Party. We have got major


elections tomorrow across the country. Given the length the Prime


Minister went to to bring up a Hamas, I wonder if the Tories have


got private polling of focus groups that show that this is resonating? I


think they see that there is clearly an opportunity to claw back a pretty


safe lead in the London mayoral election. We don't really know, the


code won't be until Friday night, but the widespread assumption has


been that London is pretty safe for Labour. That is a crucial piece of


the jigsaw for Jeremy Corbyn. His critics believe as long as he can


hold on to London, he is basically safe for now. I think the fact that


David Cameron demonstrably brought this up and made this an issue, he


was armed with quotes as long as your arm, all sorts of information,


he became mob handed and determined to make that point that they think


is having an impact. Labour sources said it would be impossible for it


not to have any impact at all, the chaos of the last week, but whether


it has a significant impact is something that they don't. As ever


in politics, whilst we are fascinated with the detail, most


will have seen the noise and chaos, but will not have been following


every single detail. In London it is not working. The more dirt thrown at


Sadiq Khan, the bigger the polling. That is quite a substantial lead he


has got, this attempt, not to claim he is an extremist himself but to


taint by association, does not seem to be working. I think you're right


and I don't know what will happen in London. It operates in a bubble.


Very wary of reading into too many opinion polls. I would hesitate. Can


I make a slightly different point? When Jeremy Corbyn became leader


saying they would be a different atmosphere, every leader does this.


But PMQs turned into Punch and Judy. Every week, it is Angus Robertson


who asks the question where you go, why didn't Jeremy Corbyn lead on


that subject? Today it should have been that question. That would have


been the sensible one. You mention, does this resonate outside


Westminster? It is such a basic tenet of modern politics that a


mainstream party is not racist or anti-Semitic that people cannot


believe we're having this discussion in the 21st century. This is why it


keeps coming back to the floor. The vast majority of Labour MPs now this


is true and they are in despair. The seminal intervention in last week's


PMQs was Yvette Cooper, senior Labour backbencher. She has been in


the vanguard of this issue. Labour has backed her. Here is an issue of


progress. And yet, the Leader of the Opposition is effectively handing


this over to the leader of the Parliamentary party of the Scottish


nationalists. He has been vocal on the issue, just not today. Just


listen to Laura, he would know that the whole was breaking here, things


were changing. Why would you not go on that issue which plays to


everything Labour is meant to stand for? I'm sure Jeremy had in mind


that we have got the local government elections and he raised a


series of legitimate questions. He has got six questions. I think the


questions he put to David Cameron were entirely reasonable and good


questions. He did not get the answers because David Cameron knows


that he is cutting into local government. As you will know. Is it


hurting? If you have the Jeremy Corbyn Labour Party associated with


Ken Livingstone's remarks on Hitler and Zionism, with the anti-Semitic


tweets coming out from members of the Labour Party, David Cameron


dragging up this old phrase about friends of Hamas and Hezbollah. Is


it hurting? Let me talk about the phrase, Hamas is an organisation


that do not even believe Israel has a right to exist. We do not support


Hezbollah. Your leader has not condemned it. He said in PMQs today,


he does not approve. What was the phrase he had with reference, he


does not support racist and anti-Semitic organisations. He


condemns racist organisations. That suggests he was condemning them. He


could not bring himself to say the names? I am condemning Hamas and


Hezbollah. We do not believe these organisations should be associated


with. What is also not clear is what the government's position is on


child refugees. It is obvious there is movement but they will be under


pressure to give convincing details and if they don't, they might find


themselves with a big problem and a potential defeat next week.


Welcome to the programme Greg Mulholland, Hywel Williams


Welcome to the two of you so far. Hywel, antiestablishment parties are


in the March, is this one Plaid Cymru must make a breakthrough? We


are working very hard indeed and split might be between the Tories


and Labour, in Wales, it is Plaid against Labour and Plaid has the


momentum with Leanne Wood. So you think you will increase your seats


significantly? What does significantly mean? What does it


mean to you? The system we have in Wales is stacked against dramatic


breakthroughs unless you have the situation you have in Scotland when


it is Tamil chillers. Labour are worried. Jeremy Corbyn referred to


the situation in Wales. If I was him, I wouldn't have done so, but he


thinks they are in trouble. John Ashworth, are you in trouble in


Wales, there is a lot of scrutiny on Labour's record there. Nigel Farage


predicted Ukip would get five seeds on the watch is only. And now we


have Plaid saying they will make the breakthrough? We are taking nothing


for granted and we are campaigning hard. Let's see where we are on


Friday morning when we see the results. I think we will continue to


have a Labour government in Wales on Friday morning. A Labour government


on its own or will it have to go into coalition? We will see when the


results come through, but I am confident Labour will continue to be


in government in Wales. In government army yes. Labour would be


in government, but will they be governing alone or will they have to


look to the other parties because they may only just be the largest


party? We are taking nothing for granted and we are working hard. I


will be on election night coverage, but I think I will be on your rival


competitor programmes. Surely not. Do you agree with Jeremy Corbyn?


Labour won't lose any seats in these elections? Let's see where we get


to. We are enthusiastically campaigning confidently and we are


not taking anything for granted. Let's see where we get to after 10pm


tomorrow night. Hywel, what about Ukip taking five seats, you will


then lose to Ukip? We will see about that later on. We are confident of


keeping our constituencies and winning some more as well. Ukip, in


this election, they are a significant sideline issue, but


really it is Plaid against Labour. Who do you want to run Wales, the


tired Labour government or Plaid with exciting manifesto? Let's talk


to Diane James from Ukip. You are contesting less than half of the


seats innings councils, why aren't you contesting more? Because we have


gone for the target seats, if you like, where we believed we stand a


really good chance of success. Let's put it into perspective, we are


party of just over 20 years of age and we haven't got the


infrastructure to support candidates in every seat. We have learned


lessons from other elections, we're putting a huge amount of effort into


supporting those candidates that are standing for us. We are hopeful of


success on their behalf. If Ukip doesn't gain council seats in


England when other anti-populist groups are gaining ground across


Europe, will be be any point to Ukip after the June referendum? Yes there


will, this is the question you both ask Ukip personnel on every


programme. And there is a point, and the point is, it is Ukip that


achieved the referendum. David Cameron had to react to the Ukip


threat by ensuring the referendum was delivered and included in his


manifesto. Look at the mess he is in now, as a result. In terms of


council seats, we are defending council seats were eight individual


stood on the Ukip banner. We are confident they will get back in. And


an accredited polling organisation from the University has said we are


on course to take 40. I am confident from that point of view. I think we


have Greg Mulholland now from the Liberal Democrats. Your fight to


campaign on unnecessary cuts to services, how will the electorate


take you seriously when during the coalition a number of local services


for Kotze? First of all, people are seeing what a majority Conservative


Government does with unnecessary ideological cuts, rather than


dealing with the deficit in the economy. People will also take the


Liberal Democrats seriously, because you have two main parties in England


who are at each other's threads in the most extraordinary civil war.


Labour are tearing themselves apart and the Conservatives are tearing


themselves apart. People want a centre party who have progressive


values and stand up the people in their communities. That is why


people will be looking to elect Liberal Democrat members, Scottish


Parliament and MSPs tomorrow. When you talk about services being cut


ideological and by the Conservatives, but they were


different cuts when UN coalition, during that time, 350 libraries


close, 350 youth centres in England and sure start centres in England


close. What is different about those cuts as you say to the ones are


happening now? Those cuts were made by councils, largely Labour and


Conservative councils. The situation financially for local government is


tough. So no responsibility at all for you in government? Where we


write to seek to bring down the levels of public spending at a time


when it was out of control? Yes. Is the need to carry on making the cuts


Labour and Conservative ministers are carrying on making the services?


Absolutely not. But going back to classic politics where we are


talking to people on the streets and people are responding. We want to


see the good old-fashioned Liberal Democrat policies coming back. We


will have to we're almost out of time. The answer


to guess the year was 1972. We were all wrong in the studio.


We will be doing the US elections with Donald Trump undoubtedly the


Republican nominee. I thought you were going to


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