04/05/2016 Daily Politics


04/05/2016

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Tomorrow voters across Britain will go to the polls

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in the largest set of elections, outside of a general election,

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Elections in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland,

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English councils, London, police commissioners,

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A chance for every voter in the land to cast a ballot.

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So what will it mean for the political landscape?

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The Government signals that it may give ground on accepting child

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Ministers are due to hold talks with Tory rebels in an attempt

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It should all provide some good knockabout

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for Prime Minister's Questions - we'll have all the action,

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All that in the next hour and a half.

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Scheduled by the BBC and so far not by government ministers.

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And with us for the whole programme today the former Conservative

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minister and party chairman, Grant Shapps, and the shadow cabinet

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Jon is one of the MPs for Leicester, who's football team

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have won something called the Premier League -

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Grant's local team is Hatfield Town FC.

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Apparently, like Leicester, they also play in blue.

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But, as far as we can tell, that is where the the similarities

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Anyway, I don't know whether the next 90 minutes will be

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like watching Leicester or Hatfield, but I'm hoping there

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The government could be about to change its stance

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on whether to resettle child refugees who are already in Europe,

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With lots of their own MPs concerned about the issue, they could face

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defeat in the Commons next week, unless some sort of deal is reached.

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And potential Tory rebels are meeting the Immigration Minister

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Meanwhile, Sir Erich Reich, who himself came to Britain

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on the Kindertransport in the 1930s, has called on the government

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Unaccompanied children, they're in Europe and Mr Cameron

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thinks they're safe, but they are not.

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They hide in woods, they hide from authorities.

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All kinds of things and tens of thousands of

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children have been lost, nobody knows where they are.

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My view is, given I came on what was called the

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Kindertransport, Britain should help a little bit more.

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Grant Shapps, should the government change its mind and take some of

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these unaccompanied child refugees in Europe? Yes. How many? I don't

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know, once you get into the detail it becomes quite complicated. What

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you don't want to do is create factors which means people decide to

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send their kids to Europe and cause more people to risk their lives on

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the journey, but I think the problem the government has is, no country in

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Europe is doing more in Syria, ?2 million spent in that region, we are

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taking another 3000, but the problem is that it kind of, when you get

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down to what is happening on your doorstep, looks and feels not quite

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right. Has the government got the message? I expect it has. I don't

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have any inside information but, fundamentally the Prime Minister is

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a decent man, he will be seeing this, you heard what he said. They

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have stuck firmly to their guns. We spoke to a number of ministers about

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this. They have firmly defended the Prime Minister, the central tenet is

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to not taken refugees unless they have a close relative. You think

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they will give way on that? I think the concern is real. People have

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been dismissive of the concern of creating the situation like in

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Germany. Is it a case that migrants can go back to Turkey, those that

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cross the sea? Does that remove the pool factor? This is one of many

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reasons, you can get into the complexities, this is why it is so

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complicated. But you asked the question of whether I think the

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government needs to move on it and I think they should. Will it be enough

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if the government says it is prepared to allow unaccompanied

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children to come to Europe if they have distant relatives? Will that be

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enough? I don't know the specifics. My colleagues are closer to the

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issue. But I do know like many people in this country, my father

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came after being chased out, we are doing more than any other European

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nation in Syria to sort it out, but we are in danger of undoing that

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good work. What do you say to Grant Shapps, who says the government

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should change its mind? I agree with Brad and he made a very reasonable

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case. The signal seems to be that the Prime Minister and ministers are

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meeting to see if an agreement can be thrashed out. I hope they meet

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the Lord who has been moving it in the House of Lords, he was on the

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news earlier raising questions about what this deal could be. I hope they

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will meet him. An agreement would be allowing 3000? That was the motion I

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supported but to be honest if we can reach consensus with the government

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I would go along with whatever consensus is reached. There is

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already a replacement mechanism in place. Other countries are not doing

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their bit. Is enough being done in terms of dealing with child

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refugees? I don't think enough is being done but that does not mean we

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should not be doing anything. We have heard the stories of children

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going rough. I would be happy to go along with whatever consensus is

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reached, I just want us to get consensus.

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Yes, it is finally upon us, the biggest set of elections outside

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Voters in every area of the country will be able to vote

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in English Local Council Elections, Scottish Parliament Elections,

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Welsh Assembly Elections, Northern Ireland Assembly Elections,

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mayoral elections, including for the London mayor,

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and Police and Crime Commissioner elections.

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And if that wasn't enough there are also two Westminster

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by-elections in Ogmore and in Sheffield Brightside.

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Here's our Jeremy Vine with a taster of what is in store.

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Thursday is very exciting because there's going to be

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There is a chance for everyone in the UK to have a vote,

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there are even two Westminster by-election in Ogmore and

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Let's look first at the Northern Ireland Assembly,

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because that's up for election with its complicated,

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And then there's the Welsh assembly as well.

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Here is the map as it was left last time in 2011.

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The question here is whether actually these Labour

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strongholds in the south can be dislodged in any way

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Plus there is the Scottish parliament.

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Let's look at the result five years ago.

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They got more than the 65 seats they need for an overall majority.

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They govern alone with 69 and left Labour in a distant

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Bring on the other parties and we'll see the map tells the story.

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This wash of SNP yellow just covering Scotland.

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Is there any chance they could do even better this time?

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Firstly, the result in 2011 showing the SNP on 46% here.

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But actually if we move forwards to 2015, the general election year,

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50%, half of the vote for Nicola Sturgeon's party.

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Now if they repeat that this year in the Parliamentary elections,

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you have to wonder whether any Labour seat is safe.

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Let's not forget another election is taking place.

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That's for the Police and Crime Commissioner.

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Where it's pink, an independent won in that area.

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There's almost no end to this, is there?

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Liverpool, Salford, Bristol and of course London, the locations.

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Not so well in other parts of the South of England,

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The Assembly election happening in London as well.

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As you can see, this Labour red will help Siddique Khan,

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maybe, if he becomes London's Labour mayor.

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It will offset Labour losses elsewhere.

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Elsewhere, what about those English councils?

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Councillors up and down England being elected.

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It's worth us looking at what happened in 2008 to Labour.

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They had a very, very bad year under Gordon Brown and they've

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Gordon Brown in third place in local elections in 2008.

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He's in a kind of honeymoon period by this year, 2012.

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This is crucial that 2012 was the last year these councillors,

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this particular set of councillors, were elected.

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And Labour did rather well, didn't they?

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So, they had to get 38% just not to lose councillors on Thursday,

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The Conservatives, by contrast, only had to do better

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We'll bring the graph to the end here and let's have a look and this

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And you can see, 35% to the Conservatives and 29 for Labour.

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Let's not forget Ukip in there, 13% above the Liberal Democrats.

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My goodness, so much data coming our way on Thursday.

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And you can see more in-depth results and analysis

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with the elction results programme with Huw Edwards tomorrow night

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We're also joined now by the SNP's Deputy Leader Stewart Hosie.

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Let me start with the English local elections. Grant Shapps, why should

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voters trust the Tories when even the Prime Minister's Mum saves a

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petition opposing cuts to the council? Not all councils are doing

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the right thing. I don't have all the details but not every council

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gets it right. On balance, the Conservative council does a good

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job. My local council, they faced a budget that was the near to making

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the council go bust and years later the council is perfectly solvent.

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How can the majority of Conservative councillors be doing the right thing

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when Gary Porter, he says, even if councils stop filling in potholes,

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maintaining parks, close children centres, libraries, leisure centres,

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turn off every street light, they will still not have saved enough

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money to plug the financial black hole. Look at the reality. That is

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the reality! People said if we have these cuts there will be councils

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going bust. I am not aware of any council that has. He is the Tory

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leader of local government. He probably has an agenda about getting

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more money to local government. So he is wrong? Yes, he is wrong. I

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don't think local government is about to go bankrupt. If you look

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back six years, if councils undertake the kind of cut they had

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in the last parliament they will go bust, you said, the answer is, the

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government has given flexibility to local authorities including the

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ability to keep 100% of business rates. They have put the future of

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local government financing in the hand of local authorities. Are you

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denying that has been deep cuts to important services? There has been

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tough times all round. I did not say that. I am telling you as I see it,

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I've not seen a single Council which has run into the kind of financial

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Armageddon that was predicted. By better sharing, doing things in more

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intelligent ways, using the benefits of business rate retention, we are

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seeing councils rostering. I've got a good idea for something to save

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on, traffic lights, we've had a massive increase in out-of-control

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junctions. Cut down on that. I am sure getting rid of traffic

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lights will be a huge advantage. About 16 billion pounds saving each

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year. Is there any cuts to local government? We think it is unfair.

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The poorer councils in poorer areas are disproportionately cut to some

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other councils. We did that on the Sunday Politics show, that cuts to

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Labour areas per Capita have been higher than Tory areas. Are you

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against any kind of cuts now to local government? Jeremy Corbyn and

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John McDonnell have been clear of the scale of the cuts, hitting a

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surplus target later in this Parliament. So we don't need some of

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these cuts they are forcing through. I understand you don't like a number

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of the Tory cuts and they may be ideological, but are you against any

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further cuts? We don't think these cuts are necessary to hit the

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surplus at the end of the parliament. We feel these cuts are

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falling unfairly on the poorest areas, and we don't think it is the

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right way to approach local government finance. Are you

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depressed, given the number of cuts made, given the budget that

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unravelled very quickly this year, the embarrassment of the Prime

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Minister over the Panama papers, and so on. Rather than fighting these

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elections fair and square you embroiled in an anti-Semitism row in

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the Labour Party? I am depressed about it. I want to be talking about

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cuts to local government, rising class sizes and the waiting list for

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hospital appointments and the budget and the cuts George Osborne tried to

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do to disability benefits. It is a problem. We are told it is up to 50.

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As I understand it that is not the correct figure. You don't think it

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is just a smear as Diane Abbott described it? The Labour Party is

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not an anti-Semitic party. Where we find individuals through their

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Twitter and Facebook accounts or high profile individuals going round

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TV studios and making offensive remarks, we deal with them, suspend

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them and we send the message we don't want people with those views

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in the Labour Party. Grant Shapps, you are a former chairman of the

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Conservative Party, the electoral commission is meeting today with

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police and prosecutors to see if they get more time to launch

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possible criminal investigations into ?38,000 of Tory campaign

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spending that seems to have been wrongly lodged. I will put it no

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higher than that for the moment. This shambles happened under your

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watch? I am not one to shirk my responsibilities, I resigned from my

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last government job to take responsibility related to somebody

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else. I can tell you that compliance was not my area. So you knew nothing

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about this? I didn't. As chairman of the party you allowed expenses of

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these campaigners who were going to local constituencies, staying in

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local hotels, you allowed them to be charged to the national campaign and

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not the local campaign? I was co-chairman, campaigning was my

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side, not the money and the finance. You were behind the battle bus

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business? The campaigning, not the finance. You didn't wonder whether

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charges being made. I don't like shirking my responsibilities but

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this side of things was not my side. Is it not palpably wrong, since

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these campaigners were going to help local Conservatives fight, that any

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expenses, hotel bills in particular, should be charged to the

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constituency? Everything has to be done within the law. It is for the

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electoral commission and others to judge that. If you are asking me

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about the specifics, compliance wasn't my side. I am asking you

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about the printable, if a bunch of Tories go to help, not a national

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campaign, but fight for a local Tory candidate, their costs must go on

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the constituency budget? As I understand it, you have to apply

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costs as they fall. But there are lots of areas where it isn't

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straightforward. For example, what if the Prime Minister and others

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come into town and, does that go on to the local constituency? It was

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all filed correctly, I believe. They have admitted, if you were not in

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charge of compliance, who was? Other people in the party at the time.

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Who, Lord Feldman? I don't want to go into details. If you weren't in

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charge of compliance, you were obliged to know who was? There was a

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separate compliance department. You want to spread the blame. As a party

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you are bang to rights on misappropriation of electoral

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spending and it is a criminal offence. They have said they have

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complied correctly. The electoral commission is there to make those

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decisions. I am asking for your view as chairman of the time? It was all

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correctly done. Never one to shirk my responsibilities, you are going

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on a point I cannot help you with. Clearly, should the electoral

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commission be granted more time so this doesn't get kicked into the

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long grass? They need more time to investigate this, agree? I don't

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know. You don't know? What did you do as party chairman? You are asking

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me about something that happened over a year ago which I had no

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control over. It is not for me to decide. Education is under the

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control of the Scottish Parliament. If you are a poor student from a

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poor background, why is Scotland now the worst part of the United Kingdom

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in which to try to get to university? It is not. If you think

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what we have done to help people, nurseries maintained. EMAs

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maintained, tuition is free. There is an issue about the kids of the

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poorest backgrounds get into university, not just in Scotland.

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But it is worse in Scotland? That is why the First Minister has made it

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clear we want to see 750 million over the terms of this Parliament to

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get 20% of the University intake from children from the 20% poorest

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backgrounds. You have been in power for nine years, why is it, if you

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are from a poor background you have the least chance of getting to

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university than any part of the United Kingdom? These are marginal

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differences. I will give you the figures. If you are from the top 20%

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in England, you have 2.5 times more chance of getting to university than

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if you are from the bottom 20%. In Scotland, it is 3.5 times, 30%

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worse, in a country which has always prided itself, that poor kids will

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get a decent education. Why is it worse than Northern Ireland, Wales

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and England after nine years of your rule? We recognise the problem,

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which is what we have set about changing. But you have been there

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for nine years. With 20% of the kids from the poorest backgrounds

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targeted to get 20% of university places, it is not all about

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university education. As you know, we have 119,000 full-time college

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place it which lead to positive out comes. 25,000 apprenticeships every

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year, moving to 30,000. Youngsters have the choice to go to university,

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do a trade, go to college, go straight into work. You are right,

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it is not always about university, so let's look at the standards of

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reading, writing and numeracy, check that you whether you go into

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university, go to work, or further education. According to a survey,

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the reading, writing and counting, an old-fashioned word, 413 and 14

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new has been falling since 2011. -- 13 and 14 new roles. It is amongst

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poor pupils. That is why we're putting in extra the extra teachers

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and the new build schools. You have been in power for nine years, why

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has this happened on your watch? These things come and go under every

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administration, every authority and government. It isn't wringing our

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hands when we identify a problem... You have failed to rectify the

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problem. You make the point it has fallen for the last couple of years.

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It rose in the previous years we were in power. You are falling back.

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You cannot stand still, you have to look at the numbers and fix it. The

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attainment funding has been put in place. All of the things we are

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doing is to remedy the problems you identify. In 2007, your party

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promised to reduce the average class sizes in primary schools in Scotland

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down to 18. What is it washed and Mark it is higher than that, sadly.

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It is a lot higher, 23.3. You took money from primary schools and put

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it into free tuition fees for middle-class students. At the

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beginning of the interview you were going on about people going to

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university, but you cannot allow people to go to university and

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support them using unlimited amounts of money over steer times. We had to

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make difficult choices. I taking money away from primary schools? The

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money and the choices we are making now will remedy the problems you are

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identifying. You are right want comparing England with Scotland.

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Spending per head in primary and secondary school is higher in

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Scotland. School spending has fallen by 5% in real terms and has

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increased in England by 3%. As much as spending per head primary and

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secondary remains higher in Scotland than it does in the rest of the UK,

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and that is the right thing to do. Stuart Posey, thank you very much.

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Donald Trump is the nomination for the Republican party in the United

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States. It was a bruising and bare-knuckle fight and when he takes

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on Hillary Clinton, and she has the Democratic nomination, even though

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she couldn't win Indiana yesterday, that will come up in election in

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November. We can expect it to be just as bloody. But viewers, you

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have a tough contest on your hands right now.

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So to be in a with a chance of winning one of these -

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see if you can remember when all this happened.

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# you know, what my freedom means to me

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After passing through customs and immigration, the Ugandan Asians

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You can see why they call it Spaghetti Junction.

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Though, the engineers point out, unlike a

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plate of spaghetti, it stands up and it's highly planned.

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We have been told the French presidential election will be on

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April 23 and the second knockout round will be on made the seventh.

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Put it in your diary. To midday here, just

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take a look at Big Ben, Yes, Prime Minister's

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Questions is on its way. And that's not all -

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Laura Kuenssberg is here. You have had a good track record in

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telling us what Jeremy Corbyn is going to go on, so no pressure. The

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Prime Minister is going to announce a form of climb-down over taking in

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child refugees from continental Europe. The details haven't been

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confirmed, but I have been told to expect him to make an announcement

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about what might he branded humanitarian visas, a time-limited

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permission the children who are vulnerable in camps on mainland

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Europe to be brought to this country. It is not exactly what the

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many rebels who have been amassing over this have been asking for, but

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there have been lots of discussions about compromises behind-the-scenes

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in the last 36 hours. I think David Cameron will give ground on this in

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the last half an hour. This time last week, he was absolutely adamant

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in the House in response to that Cooper's blistering questions in the

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last couple of days, Downing Street under severe pressure with the

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referendum going on, helps matters from the rebel's point of view has

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made the calculation he will have to move. Was it just the waiter

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political opinion. Grant Shapps said the Prime Minister should move on

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this. That is the prospect. Losing next week under pressure during the

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referendum campaign is not something where they want to go.

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greater resilience and a great team effort. I've had meetings with

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others and additional meetings later today. Martin Day. May I start by

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associating myself with the comments regarding Leicester City. The

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Foreign Secretary said there is a need for a new initiative in the

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Syrian dialogue to keep it alive. Will the Prime Minister withdraw his

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ear strakes and redouble his efforts? What I think we should do

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is both things, continue to hit Daesh terrorists but do everything

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we can to support dialogue between the opposition and the Syrian regime

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which is what the process has been about. My right honourable friend

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will be aware that Conservative candidates are standing and Labour

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will lose some seats. We are aware of the stamping out of racism and

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anti-Semitism. Would my right honourable friend join me and our

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colleagues in condemning the actions and propaganda of Hezbollah and

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Hamas? I wish my candidates well. If you want well-run services and want

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to keep costs and taxes don't it is right to vote Conservative. But the

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point he makes about Hamas is important. They are a terrorist

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group who believe in killing Jews. Whatever the right honourable

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gentleman says about combating anti-Semitism, it will mean nothing

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until he withdraws the remark that they were his friends. He should do

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it today. I join the Prime Minister in

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congratulating Leicester City on their amazing achievements. I hope

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it is not an indication that he is going to support another football

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team or is he going to stick with the two he has got already?

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Later today, commemorations begin for Holocaust Memorial Day in

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Israel. I hope there is agreement across all parts of this house in

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sending our best wishes to those commemorating the occasion, and

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sending a statement that anti-Semitism has no place in our

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society whatsoever and we have a duty to oppose it. Tomorrow, people

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will go to the polls in council elections in England. Nine of the

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ten most deprived councils are set to see cuts higher than the national

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average with eight facing cuts more than three times the national

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average, meaning less money for youth services, adult social care

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and those in areas of the greatest need. The Prime Minister used to say

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we are all in it together. What happened to that? Left me -- let me

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join the right honourable gentleman in saying that we should always

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support Holocaust they. -- Holocaust Day. I am going to press him on this

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point. He said, it will be my pleasure and my honour to host an

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event in Parliament where our friends from Hezbollah will be

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speaking, I have also invited friends from Hamas to speak as well.

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They believe in killing Jews around the world. If he wants to clear up

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the problem of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party, now is a good time to

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start, withdraw that they are your friends. Mr Speaker, I've made it

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clear that Labour is an antiracism party and there is no place for them

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in it. We have suspended all members and -- who have taken part in

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anti-Semitism and established an enquiry. The point he was making

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relate to a discussion I was hosting in order to promote peace process

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and it was not an approval of those organisations, I absolutely do not

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approve of those organisations. Mr Speaker, the reality is vulnerable

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people are being abandoned in this country. The Prime Minister has said

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that social care and support for the elderly is a priority for him. If

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that is the case, why has he cut 4.5 billion since 2010, leaving 300,000

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older people without care and support they need to live in

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dignity? We are putting more money into social care and allowing

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councils to raise council tax. I'm afraid he will need to do this one

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more time. He referred to Hamas and Hezbollah as his friends. Are they

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your friends or not? Those organisations believe in persecuting

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and killing Jews. They are anti-Semitic, racist organisations.

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He must stand up and say that they are not his friends. Mr Speaker,

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obviously anyone that commits racist attacks or is anti-Semitic is not a

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friend of mine. I would also invite him to think for a moment about the

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conduct of his party and his candidate in the London mayoral

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election. The way in which they systematically are smearing my

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friend, the member for tooting, who is our candidate for mayor. I wish

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him well and I invite the Prime Minister to undertake to ensure that

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the Conservative Party assists from the actions it is taking in smearing

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my friend. Last week, the Joseph Rowntree foundation's destitution

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report found 1.25 million people in Britain were unable to afford the

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essentials to stay fed and clean. When will the stronger economy mean

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that fewer people need to use food banks? It means there are over 2

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million more people in work than when I became Prime Minister, you

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can earn ?11,000 before you pay tax, and we've introduced a national

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living wage, which was never done in 13 years of a Labour government. I

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reject what he says about Labour's candidate for the London mayoralty.

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We are not responsible for everything anyone says when they are

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with us, but there is a pattern of behaviour for the honourable member

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for Tooting. He shared a platform with the man whose trained the

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ringleader of the 7/7 attacks. He shared a platform with a man who

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called for Jews to be drowned in the ocean. He described this as flowery

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language. If he wants to know why they have a problem with

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anti-Semitism it is because they share platforms with anti-Semitic

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people. Withdraw the remark about Hamas and Hezbollah being your

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friends. Last week the Prime Minister tried to smear my friends,

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the Minister for Tooting. It turns out that one of those is an active

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Conservative supporter. He should reflect on the word is said by Lord

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Lansley, that racism was endemic within the Conservatives. We have

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set up an enquiry and I would suggest he does the same. It has

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been said that the housing bill removes the security these people

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need, it is fundamentally wrong. Homelessness is up a third. A voter

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wrote to me and said he and his family will lose their home if the

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housing bill goes through. Why can't the Prime Minister followed the

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example from the Welsh Labour government in placing illegal

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responsibility -- a legal responsibility to help people during

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a housing crisis? What this government has done in England,

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rebuilt twice as much council housing in the last six years as

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Labour did in 13. I will not let this rest about the honourable

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member for Tooting. He raised the case for Ghani. Do you want to know

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the views of the person your leader has just quartered? He described

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women... The honourable member for Islington may be interested. He

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described women as subservient to men, he said homosexuality was an

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unnatural act. He stood on a platform with people who wanted an

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Islamic state. That is why his attempts to deal with anti-Semitism

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are utterly condemned to failure. He will not even condemn people who sit

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on platforms with people like that. I was trying to help the Prime

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Minister, I did point out that the gentleman concerned is a

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conservative. Maybe he would think about that.

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Another former Conservative candidate said, I will be voting

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Labour, I am ashamed of the repulsive campaign of hate. Mr

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Speaker, homelessness has been reduced by 67% in Wales since the

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new regulations came in. Why can't he do the same in this country?

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Inequality is getting worse, education should be a route out of

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poverty. But new figures show that the number of people participating

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on an adult education course fell by a fifth. How can we tackle

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inequality when the Prime Minister is taking away opportunities for

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people to find a pathway out of poverty. Inequality has gone down

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under this government. It is because we've got a growing economy, a

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living wage, more jobs, people paying less tax. I say to him, we

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are investing in the schools to give people opportunities, schemes to

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allow people to own homes. He opposes those things because the

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truth is, he may be a friend of Hamas but he is an enemy of

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aspiration. Mr Speaker, politics is about

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choices. The Prime Minister cart... Order, order. Order, order. Let me

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very gently say to the assiduous but slightly overenthusiastic whip, the

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member for Hexham, his role is to be seen and not heard. No further noise

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from the honourable gentleman today or his sidekick to his right. We

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will not shout people down in this chamber. The quiet or leave. Very

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simple. Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you Mr Speaker. This government has cut

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capital gains tax for the richest, every turn they make the wrong

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choices. Tomorrow, people can make their own choices about the crisis

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of social care, the housing crisis in this country. The unprecedented

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cuts to local councils in areas of greatest need. The cuts to further

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education, taking opportunities away from young people. The choices have

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been made will stop they cut taxes for the rich. We want to ensure

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there is proper taxation to ensure there are decent services for the

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rest. Prime Minister. Tomorrow is about choices, you can choose a

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party on the side of security for hard-working people, who wants to

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make sure there are more jobs, better pay, lower taxes, good

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schools for your children, a seven-day NHS you when you need it.

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Or the other choice, you can back a party that puts extremists

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overworking people. And is incapable of providing the leadership your

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local council needs, or the country needs.

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Does my right honourable friend agree with me in order to create a

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northern powerhouse that can produce innovation and prosperity,

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investment is needed in vital transport links in northern cities?

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Of particular concern to my constituents is the junction of the

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834 and the A5 60 Gatley. Will the Prime Minister and his ministers

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meet with me and discuss how we can keep traffic moving in and out of

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Manchester and alleviate congestion in my constituency of Cheadle. She

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is right to raise this and that is why we established transport for the

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North to look at schemes like the one she proposes, so we can speak

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with one voice. It is why we are investing 13 billion. Planning for

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the next strategy is now underway. It is the right time to make the

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point that she does. Last week, the Prime Minister took issue when I

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raised the issue of unaccompanied Syrian refugee children in Europe.

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And the candid transports of the 1930s. Since then he has been

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written to by the chairman of Kindertransport. He said the echoes

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of the past haunt many fellow and I. I feel it is incumbent on us to

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demonstrate our compassion and human compassion to provide sanctuary to

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those in need. Why has it taken so long and the threat of a

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Parliamentary defeat for the Prime Minister to begin changing his mind.

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Let me pay tribute to the gentleman the honourable member raises. And

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also, let's be clear, no country has done more than others when it comes

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to Syrian refugees. No country has raised more money and only the

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United States has spent more money. I do want us to proceed with as much

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support across the House as we can. It is right to stick to the

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principle we shouldn't be encouraging people to make this

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dangerous journey. It is right to stick to the idea we keep investing

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in the refugee camps and neighbouring countries. It is right

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not to take part in the EU relocation and resettlement schemes,

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which have been, in my view, a failure. We are taking in migrants,

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child migrants with the direct family scheme. We will talk to Save

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the Children to see what we can do for children who came here before

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the EU Turkey deal was signed. What I don't want to do is take steps

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that will encourage people to make this dangerous journey. Otherwise,

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our actions, however well-meaning, could result in more people dying,

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rather than more people getting a good life. Last week I accused the

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Prime Minister of walking by on the other side when he defended his then

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policy opposing further help for unaccompanied refugee children in

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Europe will stop if, what we are hearing now, is the beginnings of a

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U-turn, I very much welcome it as I'm sure all members on side of the

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House do. I encourage him to think more about what can be done, given

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the Kindertransport help 10,000 children from Europe. I asked the

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Prime Minister to thank Lord Alf Dobbs and all campaigners who have

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worked hard for the UK to live up to the example and the spirit of the

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Kindertransport. I think all those people deserve recognition for the

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work they have done to put this issue so squarely on the agenda. I

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do reject the comparison with the Kindertransport. And for this

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reason, I would argue that what we are doing primarily which is taking

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children from the region, vulnerable people from the camps, going to the

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neighbouring countries and taking people into our country, housing,

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clothing and feeding them and making sure they have a good life, that to

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me is like the Kindertransport. To say the Kindertransport is taking

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today, children from France, Italy or Germany, safe countries that our

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democracy, that is an insult to those countries. Because of the

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steps we are taking, it won't be necessary to send the amendment back

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to the other place, the amendment doesn't mention a number of people.

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We will go round the local authorities and see what more we can

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do. But let's stick to the principle we should not be taking new arrivals

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to Europe. The Department of Health are looking to introduce a self DNA

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test for pregnant women, in order to reduce the number of miscarriages.

:51:44.:51:49.

This will have the consequence of increasing the number of abortions

:51:50.:51:54.

with those with down syndrome. I know there is nobody in this House

:51:55.:51:59.

who cares more for those with special needs for protection and the

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safety of those with special needs, so will the Prime Minister meet with

:52:03.:52:08.

me and representatives of the East Lancashire down syndrome support

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group to look at ways to protect those with down syndrome and it will

:52:12.:52:18.

not simply be screened out? He raises an important issue. A local

:52:19.:52:21.

people of down syndrome parents came to my constituency surgery on Friday

:52:22.:52:28.

and made these arguments to me. I am taking this up with the Department

:52:29.:52:33.

of help to make sure all the processes are followed. There are

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moral and ethical issues that need to be considered in these cases. On

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the other hand, we have to respect the view that women want to have

:52:40.:52:43.

screening and testing about the health of their children. We should

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be in favour of maximum transparency. On the basis it is

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optional, rather than mandatory, but it is part of routine care. Health

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Secretary will have to find a way through this, but we have to make

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sure we go about it in the right way. UNESCO car components for Ford

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and Nissan cars and employs hundreds of people, including from my

:53:09.:53:11.

constituency. I'm sure the Prime Minister knows the need to get right

:53:12.:53:16.

our manufacturing industry. Does he agree with the managing director,

:53:17.:53:20.

Mike Matthews, who said it would be business suicide for the UK to leave

:53:21.:53:28.

the EU? I listen to all the business voices, particularly those in

:53:29.:53:31.

manufacturing, and so many say we are better off in a reformed

:53:32.:53:35.

European union. We get an enormous amount of investment from Japanese

:53:36.:53:40.

motor industries. I will be welcoming the Japanese Prime

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Minister to the UK tomorrow, when I am sure this is on the agenda.

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Closed question, Doctor Julian Lewis. Nato is the cornerstone of

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Britain's defence but our place in the EU is a vital part of protecting

:53:54.:53:59.

national security. It helps by ensuring the issues are settled by

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dialogue and helping to provide assistance in particular

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circumstances, for example, the Balkans. I entirely agree with the

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Prime Minister's remarks about Nato. Does he accept that whilst

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dictatorships often attacked democracies or other dictatorships,

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democracies seldom, if ever, go to war with each other. If an aim of

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the EU, is to prevent conflict between its own members, as in World

:54:29.:54:33.

War I and World War II, is it not heading in precisely the wrong

:54:34.:54:39.

direction by trying to create an unelected supranational government

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of Europe, which is accountable to nobody? My honourable friend has

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very long standing and passionate views on this. I will make a couple

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of points. I don't think we should forget some of the country is now in

:54:56.:55:00.

the European Union, until recently, were not democracies, but what forms

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of dictatorship. The second point, those countries that have worked

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towards an omission of EU have had to put in place all sorts of

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democratic and other norms to help them on their way. The final point,

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we have had an unparalleled period of peace and prosperity in Europe

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and my argument with me, whether you want to attribute all of that to

:55:23.:55:26.

Nato, or some of that to the EU, why would you want to put it at risk?

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The findings of the NHS in England report into the sudden closure of

:55:33.:55:37.

Bootham Park mental health hospital in your, has confirmed the

:55:38.:55:41.

relationships and authorities between all NHS bodies and is

:55:42.:55:46.

defined under the health and social care at 20 of 12 are dysfunctional

:55:47.:55:50.

and failed patient at -- patient safety. Harm occurred and life has

:55:51.:55:56.

been lost. Will the Prime Minister accept his health act has to change

:55:57.:56:02.

due to the serious risk created and in line with NHS England's

:56:03.:56:05.

recommendations? I will look carefully at what she said my

:56:06.:56:10.

understanding is she called for action on an outdated and dangerous

:56:11.:56:13.

facility last year. That is what happened. I am pleased action was

:56:14.:56:21.

taken, it wasn't fit for purpose. The CQC identified serious and

:56:22.:56:24.

life-threatening issues on patient safety and they were not right. As a

:56:25.:56:29.

result, there was a decision to close and reopen the facility after

:56:30.:56:34.

the changes. You will have incidents of poor practice. What matters, do

:56:35.:56:39.

we intervene fast enough and put them right. At this case, I will

:56:40.:56:44.

look again at what she said, but it does look like action was taken. The

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Christian News Edie and sheer children in Syria are suffering from

:56:50.:56:56.

genocide by Daesh and we should recognise it as such. My urge to the

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Prime Minister, to indeed do more to replicate the Kindertransport of the

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1930s. That is what we are doing in taking children directly from the

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camps in Syria. If we were to take 16-year-olds from a safe environment

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in Europe, we would be causing more misery and encouraging the people

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traffickers. He asked me two questions, whether there is more we

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can do to label what has happened as genocide. This has always been

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something done under a legal definition, but I believe very much

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it is clearly heading, there is a strong case for saying it is

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genocide. I hope it will be portrayed unspoken as such. On the

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issue of the Kindertransport, I would agree, we have an enormous

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amount of what we can be proud of. The money we put into the camps, we

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raised more in London on Monday than any humanitarian conference has ever

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raised in the world. We are going to do more for children already

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registered in Europe after, before the EU Turkey deal. But the

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principle we should try to cling do is we shouldn't do anything that

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encourages people to make the perilous journey. That has been the

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cornerstone of our policy and it should remain the case. For the

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benefit of the House and 410 and 11-year-olds up and down the

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country, will the Minister explain what the past progressive tense is.

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Will he set out his definition of a modal verb? I will say to the

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honourable lady, the point of these changes is to make sure our children

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are better educated than we are. That is why I am delighted with

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three children in state schools going off to do these tests. I am

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delighted they are going to be. Thank you Mr Speaker. Three years

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ago, three years ago... Order, order. Three years ago five members

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of a family from County Durham were killed in a tragic accident A18. The

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coroner said he had no confidence in the work of the proposed work of the

:59:28.:59:31.

highway authority to remedy the situation. The council wants to do

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all they can and have committed to carry out the work. But resources

:59:37.:59:42.

are very limited. Could my right honourable friend give serious

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consideration to an application from the council for additional

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resources? I will have a close look I will look to see if more

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evidence can be done to make it safe. Eritrea was described as the

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North Korea of Africa in the recent inaugural all-party group meeting.

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There was government forced indefinite constriction. Will the

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Prime Minister personally and urgently review Home Office guidance

:00:22.:00:25.

which says it is safe to transport asylum seekers back to Eritrea? I

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will look at what he says. We know Eritrea is a deeply, undemocratic

:00:31.:00:36.

and autocratic country. It has done appalling things to its people and

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that is one of the reasons why so many of those seeking to cross the

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Mediterranean, through the Libyan route, have come from a country.

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When I have the opportunity to meet the Eritrea leadership in Malta, I

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made those points very strongly. Four years ago, I asked my right

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honourable friend on behalf of my mother, if the EU referendum vote

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could be brought forward because of her age. She was then 100. She now

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wishes to know if she needs to set a world record for longevity before

:01:12.:01:18.

the Chilcott report is published? I think I can reassure Maud, that this

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summer she will have a double opportunity to deal with these

:01:28.:01:31.

things. I referendum on June the 23rd and I'm sure the Chilcott

:01:32.:01:34.

report will come not too much longer after that. I imagine she will want

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a backbench business debate on the matter. Tata steel wishes to

:01:41.:01:51.

complete the sale of its assets by the middle of June and one referred

:01:52.:01:55.

bidder in place by the end of this month. Does the Prime Minister think

:01:56.:01:58.

it is a realistic time frame and there will be a credible process of

:01:59.:02:04.

due diligence? What processes is the Prime Minister taking to make sure

:02:05.:02:12.

Tata is making good on its promises as a responsible seller? The

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positive news is the deadline yesterday was met by a number of

:02:15.:02:19.

serious enquiries of interest into buying all of Tata, and that is good

:02:20.:02:25.

news. We need to work intensively with Tata and the buyers to get the

:02:26.:02:29.

list down to those who are seriously intending to bid. What it is a short

:02:30.:02:35.

timetable. What we are doing is talking intensively with Tata to

:02:36.:02:38.

make sure they do everything they can to make sure this is a serious

:02:39.:02:44.

sales process. The Prime Minister made an important announcement with

:02:45.:02:48.

regard to refugee children. Obviously, time is of the essence

:02:49.:02:52.

because of the peculiar vulnerability of children without

:02:53.:02:54.

the guidance and protection of their families. Could the Prime Minister

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give an indication to the House of how quickly he expects to have those

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arrangements in place? I am grateful to my right honourable friend, who

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has spoken passionately about this issue. I don't see any reason why

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there needs to be a long delay. We need to carry on conversations with

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local councils, because many of them, particularly in the south of

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England, are under pressure because of the number of child refugees who

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have come. Then hopefully we can make progress during this year.

:03:25.:03:30.

Documents leaked earlier this week appeared to confirm what most have

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feared, that the transatlantic trade and investment partnership makes

:03:35.:03:38.

unacceptable concessions to public health and safety regulations,

:03:39.:03:42.

opening the doors for US investors to sue for loss of rockets. Will the

:03:43.:03:47.

Prime Minister recognise the concern raised by the French president and

:03:48.:03:53.

Talbot House what this government is seeking for a national health

:03:54.:03:57.

service and public service? This is the register of red herrings. The

:03:58.:04:02.

health service is completely protect did under this agreement, as it is

:04:03.:04:07.

under other agreements. They're all sorts agreements people might be

:04:08.:04:10.

against free trade and wanting to see an expansion of and investment

:04:11.:04:15.

and jobs. People should be honest and say they don't want to see these

:04:16.:04:22.

things happen instead of inventing total red herrings. Calm yourself,

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Mr Campbell, you are supposed to be a senior statesman in the House.

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Calm down. Take up yoga, I have told you before. Cheryl Murray. The

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lifeboat celebrates its 150th anniversary this year in my

:04:48.:04:53.

constituency. Will he congratulate them, not just the new one, but all

:04:54.:05:00.

of them who keep us safe at sea? I am very happy to do that, in

:05:01.:05:03.

conjunction with my honourable friend. Very brave people, having

:05:04.:05:09.

met some of them, especially during the flooding earlier in the year.

:05:10.:05:14.

They put their lives at risk all the time to save others. They are the

:05:15.:05:26.

bravest. What matters is what works. In the long-term interests of the

:05:27.:05:30.

country, fixed term parliaments are an important of that. Can the Prime

:05:31.:05:36.

Minister ensure his government's performance includes the long

:05:37.:05:40.

overdue creation of a centre evidence on sexual abuse of children

:05:41.:05:48.

something I raised in PMQs with Margaret Thatcher. We can deal with

:05:49.:05:53.

the awful consequences of child sex abuse on victims and perpetrators,

:05:54.:05:58.

but we must use early intervention expertise to stop it from happening

:05:59.:06:02.

in the first place. Will the Prime Minister backed the excellent work

:06:03.:06:05.

of ministers and members from all parties and get this much-needed

:06:06.:06:11.

centre up and running without delay, within the five-year term of this

:06:12.:06:17.

government? I am glad the honourable gentleman rescued his own question

:06:18.:06:21.

with those last words. We are grateful to him, constitutionally at

:06:22.:06:23.

least. I am sorry it has taken a question

:06:24.:06:31.

in 1989 to get an answer. Setting up a centre of expertise on sexual

:06:32.:06:35.

abuse is what the Home Office is doing. It will identify and share

:06:36.:06:41.

high-quality evidence. Alongside this, the Department for Education's

:06:42.:06:46.

Centre will ensure social workers across the country can learn from

:06:47.:06:50.

the best examples. It is a good example of government reform, which

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I know he supports. The Prime Minister and we aren't these benches

:06:55.:06:58.

can be proud of the fact, in recent years we have reduced relative

:06:59.:07:04.

poverty and income inequality. We are a one nation party, or we are

:07:05.:07:08.

nothing. Does he agree with Lord rose, the leader of the Remain

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Campaign that if we were to lead the EU and exercise greater control over

:07:16.:07:20.

immigration for the sake of public services, wages would rise even

:07:21.:07:26.

faster? What would happen, if we were to lead the EU, we would see an

:07:27.:07:31.

impact on our economy that would be negative. That is the view of the

:07:32.:07:35.

Bank of England, the IMF, the OECD and a growing number of

:07:36.:07:39.

international bodies. Anybody who wants to make this choice, it is a

:07:40.:07:42.

choice for the British people to make. We have to be clear of the

:07:43.:07:49.

economic consequences. In 1972, aged 19, nine months married and six

:07:50.:07:52.

months pregnant with their first child, my constituent, Susan

:07:53.:07:58.

received the knock on the door to say her husband had been killed in

:07:59.:08:03.

action in Northern Ireland. Yet when she married and found love again,

:08:04.:08:08.

she lost all compensation for her and her daughter. She still has no

:08:09.:08:12.

compensation for having made that huge sacrifice. It is a disgraceful

:08:13.:08:16.

way to treat those who have lost loved ones serving our country. Will

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the Prime Minister meet with me and Susan to discuss this case and the

:08:23.:08:26.

injustice which still faces war widows in this country Western Mark

:08:27.:08:30.

I will make sure she gets the meeting and the attention she

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deserves. I know the Minister met with the war Widows Association to

:08:37.:08:38.

put forward their case. It was this government but did make a historic

:08:39.:08:43.

change, so war widows who remarried from April one 2015, would retain

:08:44.:08:50.

their war widows pension. That was a change long as four and only

:08:51.:08:53.

delivered under this government. At the moment, we are of the view of

:08:54.:08:58.

the long-standing policy of successive governments, we shouldn't

:08:59.:09:01.

make these changes and apply them retrospectively. Yesterday the

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foreign affairs select committee started our enquiry on Anglo Russian

:09:07.:09:11.

relations. This afternoon, I have a Westminster Hall debate on Anglo

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Russian relations. Despite the tension that exists, will the Prime

:09:16.:09:18.

Minister give us an assurance he will redouble his efforts to lower

:09:19.:09:24.

tensions with his fellow permanent member of the UN Security Council?

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Of course we want to keep tensions low and the one good relations, but

:09:30.:09:35.

we cannot ignore the fact Russian backed and direct its separatists

:09:36.:09:40.

have effectively tried to redraw the boundaries of Europe. When we

:09:41.:09:43.

consider how dangerous exercises like that have been in the past, we

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have to take it extremely seriously in the present.

:09:48.:10:00.

Can I thank the Prime Minister for joining Leicester MPs and the rest

:10:01.:10:06.

of the planet in congratulating Leicester City football club on

:10:07.:10:10.

their historic success in the Premier League. During this amazing

:10:11.:10:13.

season, the local Leicester hero, Gary Lineker, thought the idea of

:10:14.:10:18.

Leicester winning was so far-fetched, he said if they did

:10:19.:10:22.

when he would present match of the day in his underwear.

:10:23.:10:32.

As an Aston Villa supporter and my commiserations to the Prime Minister

:10:33.:10:39.

on their season, does he agree in politics, as well as in football,

:10:40.:10:42.

when you make a promise, you should keep it? I absolutely agree. I have

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been watching everything Gary Lineker has said since. He is not

:10:51.:10:53.

quite answering the question. Something nobody gets away with in

:10:54.:11:00.

this House. I hope it is the start of him joining the blue team.

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As PMQ's finally comes to an end, an extraordinary Prime Minister's

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Questions, not just because of the length but also because the Prime

:11:24.:11:27.

Minister and the Leader of the Opposition were like ships passing

:11:28.:11:33.

in the night. Jeremy Corbyn began by asking about local spending, an

:11:34.:11:39.

appropriate question, David Cameron replied by asking if he still

:11:40.:11:48.

thought he was friends with Hamas and Hezbollah, the militant groups

:11:49.:11:52.

lined up against Israel. Jeremy Corbyn went on to ask about

:11:53.:11:58.

government spending, the Prime Minister asked if he was still

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friends with Hamas and Hezbollah. So it went on for six questions, then

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it spilled over into the London mayoral candidate, with, inevitably,

:12:11.:12:18.

Zac Goldsmith being brought up, he has made comments about the

:12:19.:12:25.

platforms, the Prime Minister hitting back at Jeremy Corbyn for

:12:26.:12:30.

the platforms he has shared, and vice versa. Just when you thought it

:12:31.:12:34.

could not get any more unusual or interesting, Angus Robertson stood

:12:35.:12:38.

up and asked the question about the refugees, children, unaccompanied

:12:39.:12:45.

child refugees and whether the government was changing policy.

:12:46.:12:50.

After a long answer, it became clear that David Cameron has changed

:12:51.:12:53.

policy, and the amendment in the House of Lords, the Prime Minister

:12:54.:13:00.

slipped and at the very end of his answer that they will now accept

:13:01.:13:06.

that amendment. There we go. It was long but it was unusual. Most people

:13:07.:13:17.

wrote in about the exchanges between the Prime Minister and Jeremy

:13:18.:13:23.

Corbyn. It went down hill from there. All he needs to do is

:13:24.:13:29.

withdraw the comments about Hamas. The Prime Minister has raised a

:13:30.:13:38.

problem for Jeremy Corbyn. The Speaker should remind the

:13:39.:13:40.

increasingly red-faced David Cameron that it is questions to the Prime

:13:41.:13:45.

Minister, not the Leader of the Opposition. Another agrees,

:13:46.:13:52.

disgraceful from the Speaker letting David Cameron hijack PMQs. What do

:13:53.:14:04.

we make of it? It was extraordinary, and extraordinarily brutal. David

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Cameron trying to use every single second to transfer it into Jeremy

:14:11.:14:15.

Corbyn's question Time. Trying to change it. The Labour Leader kept

:14:16.:14:19.

trying to return to the subject he wanted to talk about. I think it was

:14:20.:14:26.

a very memorable session because it was more like a very rough and tough

:14:27.:14:31.

campaign debate rather than what that is meant to be about, which is

:14:32.:14:35.

the Prime Minister of the day being held to account on the big issues of

:14:36.:14:40.

the day. It was not until Angus Robertson got to his feet that we

:14:41.:14:47.

got to anything like the traditional format. We have had the

:14:48.:14:56.

anti-Semitism row rumbling on in the Labour Party. We have got major

:14:57.:14:59.

elections tomorrow across the country. Given the length the Prime

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Minister went to to bring up a Hamas, I wonder if the Tories have

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got private polling of focus groups that show that this is resonating? I

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think they see that there is clearly an opportunity to claw back a pretty

:15:22.:15:27.

safe lead in the London mayoral election. We don't really know, the

:15:28.:15:31.

code won't be until Friday night, but the widespread assumption has

:15:32.:15:34.

been that London is pretty safe for Labour. That is a crucial piece of

:15:35.:15:43.

the jigsaw for Jeremy Corbyn. His critics believe as long as he can

:15:44.:15:48.

hold on to London, he is basically safe for now. I think the fact that

:15:49.:15:55.

David Cameron demonstrably brought this up and made this an issue, he

:15:56.:15:59.

was armed with quotes as long as your arm, all sorts of information,

:16:00.:16:06.

he became mob handed and determined to make that point that they think

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is having an impact. Labour sources said it would be impossible for it

:16:17.:16:20.

not to have any impact at all, the chaos of the last week, but whether

:16:21.:16:25.

it has a significant impact is something that they don't. As ever

:16:26.:16:29.

in politics, whilst we are fascinated with the detail, most

:16:30.:16:34.

will have seen the noise and chaos, but will not have been following

:16:35.:16:41.

every single detail. In London it is not working. The more dirt thrown at

:16:42.:16:47.

Sadiq Khan, the bigger the polling. That is quite a substantial lead he

:16:48.:16:54.

has got, this attempt, not to claim he is an extremist himself but to

:16:55.:17:00.

taint by association, does not seem to be working. I think you're right

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and I don't know what will happen in London. It operates in a bubble.

:17:06.:17:12.

Very wary of reading into too many opinion polls. I would hesitate. Can

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I make a slightly different point? When Jeremy Corbyn became leader

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saying they would be a different atmosphere, every leader does this.

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But PMQs turned into Punch and Judy. Every week, it is Angus Robertson

:17:33.:17:38.

who asks the question where you go, why didn't Jeremy Corbyn lead on

:17:39.:17:44.

that subject? Today it should have been that question. That would have

:17:45.:17:52.

been the sensible one. You mention, does this resonate outside

:17:53.:17:59.

Westminster? It is such a basic tenet of modern politics that a

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mainstream party is not racist or anti-Semitic that people cannot

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believe we're having this discussion in the 21st century. This is why it

:18:09.:18:16.

keeps coming back to the floor. The vast majority of Labour MPs now this

:18:17.:18:23.

is true and they are in despair. The seminal intervention in last week's

:18:24.:18:27.

PMQs was Yvette Cooper, senior Labour backbencher. She has been in

:18:28.:18:34.

the vanguard of this issue. Labour has backed her. Here is an issue of

:18:35.:18:49.

progress. And yet, the Leader of the Opposition is effectively handing

:18:50.:18:52.

this over to the leader of the Parliamentary party of the Scottish

:18:53.:19:04.

nationalists. He has been vocal on the issue, just not today. Just

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listen to Laura, he would know that the whole was breaking here, things

:19:12.:19:16.

were changing. Why would you not go on that issue which plays to

:19:17.:19:20.

everything Labour is meant to stand for? I'm sure Jeremy had in mind

:19:21.:19:24.

that we have got the local government elections and he raised a

:19:25.:19:31.

series of legitimate questions. He has got six questions. I think the

:19:32.:19:35.

questions he put to David Cameron were entirely reasonable and good

:19:36.:19:41.

questions. He did not get the answers because David Cameron knows

:19:42.:19:44.

that he is cutting into local government. As you will know. Is it

:19:45.:20:01.

hurting? If you have the Jeremy Corbyn Labour Party associated with

:20:02.:20:04.

Ken Livingstone's remarks on Hitler and Zionism, with the anti-Semitic

:20:05.:20:11.

tweets coming out from members of the Labour Party, David Cameron

:20:12.:20:19.

dragging up this old phrase about friends of Hamas and Hezbollah. Is

:20:20.:20:27.

it hurting? Let me talk about the phrase, Hamas is an organisation

:20:28.:20:34.

that do not even believe Israel has a right to exist. We do not support

:20:35.:20:40.

Hezbollah. Your leader has not condemned it. He said in PMQs today,

:20:41.:20:48.

he does not approve. What was the phrase he had with reference, he

:20:49.:20:54.

does not support racist and anti-Semitic organisations. He

:20:55.:21:01.

condemns racist organisations. That suggests he was condemning them. He

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could not bring himself to say the names? I am condemning Hamas and

:21:07.:21:14.

Hezbollah. We do not believe these organisations should be associated

:21:15.:21:25.

with. What is also not clear is what the government's position is on

:21:26.:21:29.

child refugees. It is obvious there is movement but they will be under

:21:30.:21:31.

pressure to give convincing details and if they don't, they might find

:21:32.:21:37.

themselves with a big problem and a potential defeat next week.

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Welcome to the programme Greg Mulholland, Hywel Williams

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Welcome to the two of you so far. Hywel, antiestablishment parties are

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in the March, is this one Plaid Cymru must make a breakthrough? We

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are working very hard indeed and split might be between the Tories

:22:16.:22:22.

and Labour, in Wales, it is Plaid against Labour and Plaid has the

:22:23.:22:26.

momentum with Leanne Wood. So you think you will increase your seats

:22:27.:22:31.

significantly? What does significantly mean? What does it

:22:32.:22:37.

mean to you? The system we have in Wales is stacked against dramatic

:22:38.:22:41.

breakthroughs unless you have the situation you have in Scotland when

:22:42.:22:45.

it is Tamil chillers. Labour are worried. Jeremy Corbyn referred to

:22:46.:22:52.

the situation in Wales. If I was him, I wouldn't have done so, but he

:22:53.:22:57.

thinks they are in trouble. John Ashworth, are you in trouble in

:22:58.:23:01.

Wales, there is a lot of scrutiny on Labour's record there. Nigel Farage

:23:02.:23:05.

predicted Ukip would get five seeds on the watch is only. And now we

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have Plaid saying they will make the breakthrough? We are taking nothing

:23:11.:23:14.

for granted and we are campaigning hard. Let's see where we are on

:23:15.:23:18.

Friday morning when we see the results. I think we will continue to

:23:19.:23:22.

have a Labour government in Wales on Friday morning. A Labour government

:23:23.:23:29.

on its own or will it have to go into coalition? We will see when the

:23:30.:23:33.

results come through, but I am confident Labour will continue to be

:23:34.:23:36.

in government in Wales. In government army yes. Labour would be

:23:37.:23:41.

in government, but will they be governing alone or will they have to

:23:42.:23:44.

look to the other parties because they may only just be the largest

:23:45.:23:48.

party? We are taking nothing for granted and we are working hard. I

:23:49.:23:54.

will be on election night coverage, but I think I will be on your rival

:23:55.:24:02.

competitor programmes. Surely not. Do you agree with Jeremy Corbyn?

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Labour won't lose any seats in these elections? Let's see where we get

:24:10.:24:14.

to. We are enthusiastically campaigning confidently and we are

:24:15.:24:17.

not taking anything for granted. Let's see where we get to after 10pm

:24:18.:24:24.

tomorrow night. Hywel, what about Ukip taking five seats, you will

:24:25.:24:29.

then lose to Ukip? We will see about that later on. We are confident of

:24:30.:24:35.

keeping our constituencies and winning some more as well. Ukip, in

:24:36.:24:40.

this election, they are a significant sideline issue, but

:24:41.:24:44.

really it is Plaid against Labour. Who do you want to run Wales, the

:24:45.:24:50.

tired Labour government or Plaid with exciting manifesto? Let's talk

:24:51.:24:56.

to Diane James from Ukip. You are contesting less than half of the

:24:57.:24:59.

seats innings councils, why aren't you contesting more? Because we have

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gone for the target seats, if you like, where we believed we stand a

:25:06.:25:10.

really good chance of success. Let's put it into perspective, we are

:25:11.:25:14.

party of just over 20 years of age and we haven't got the

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infrastructure to support candidates in every seat. We have learned

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lessons from other elections, we're putting a huge amount of effort into

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supporting those candidates that are standing for us. We are hopeful of

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success on their behalf. If Ukip doesn't gain council seats in

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England when other anti-populist groups are gaining ground across

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Europe, will be be any point to Ukip after the June referendum? Yes there

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will, this is the question you both ask Ukip personnel on every

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programme. And there is a point, and the point is, it is Ukip that

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achieved the referendum. David Cameron had to react to the Ukip

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threat by ensuring the referendum was delivered and included in his

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manifesto. Look at the mess he is in now, as a result. In terms of

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council seats, we are defending council seats were eight individual

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stood on the Ukip banner. We are confident they will get back in. And

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an accredited polling organisation from the University has said we are

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on course to take 40. I am confident from that point of view. I think we

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have Greg Mulholland now from the Liberal Democrats. Your fight to

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campaign on unnecessary cuts to services, how will the electorate

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take you seriously when during the coalition a number of local services

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for Kotze? First of all, people are seeing what a majority Conservative

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Government does with unnecessary ideological cuts, rather than

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dealing with the deficit in the economy. People will also take the

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Liberal Democrats seriously, because you have two main parties in England

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who are at each other's threads in the most extraordinary civil war.

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Labour are tearing themselves apart and the Conservatives are tearing

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themselves apart. People want a centre party who have progressive

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values and stand up the people in their communities. That is why

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people will be looking to elect Liberal Democrat members, Scottish

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Parliament and MSPs tomorrow. When you talk about services being cut

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ideological and by the Conservatives, but they were

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different cuts when UN coalition, during that time, 350 libraries

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close, 350 youth centres in England and sure start centres in England

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close. What is different about those cuts as you say to the ones are

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happening now? Those cuts were made by councils, largely Labour and

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Conservative councils. The situation financially for local government is

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tough. So no responsibility at all for you in government? Where we

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write to seek to bring down the levels of public spending at a time

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when it was out of control? Yes. Is the need to carry on making the cuts

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Labour and Conservative ministers are carrying on making the services?

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Absolutely not. But going back to classic politics where we are

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talking to people on the streets and people are responding. We want to

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see the good old-fashioned Liberal Democrat policies coming back. We

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will have to we're almost out of time. The answer

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to guess the year was 1972. We were all wrong in the studio.

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We will be doing the US elections with Donald Trump undoubtedly the

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Republican nominee. I thought you were going to

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