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11/05/2016

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Not one but two unguarded comments filmed at

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Undiplomatic day at Buck House yesterday as the Queen called

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Chinese officials "very rude", just hours after David Cameron

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told her that Nigeria and Afghanistan are

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The two sides in the EU referendum wheel out their big guns today.

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Boris kicks off a Vote Leave battle bus campaign in Cornwall

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and Gordon Brown set out the "positive" arguments

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And what will Jeremy Corbyn choose to ask David Cameron

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at Prime Minister's Questions today?

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We'll have full coverage live at midday.

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And Brexit is getting the red carpet treatment tonight with a glitzy

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world premiere of 'Brexit: The Movie'.

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It is the single most important political decision any of us will

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make in our lifetime. Every continent is outgrowing Europe. It

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is not with in our economic interests to remain in the European

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Union. Why did we not get invited? We have.

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Oh! Have you looked out your frock? Yes. All that is coming up in the

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next hour and. With us for the duration,

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and the Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn.

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So, not one but two moments of candour caught on camera

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First, the Queen was filmed at a garden party saying Chinese

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officials were "very rude" to the British

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Her comments came just hours after the Prime Minister

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was recorded at an event to mark her 90th birthday talking

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about this week's anti-corruption summit in London.

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He said that Afghanistan and Nigeria were "fantastically corrupt".

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David Cameron there. Hillary Benn, as the President of Nigeria and

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Afghanistan are attending the summer, how awkward is that

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conversation going to be when David Cameron greet them? I think it will

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be a bit awkward. If you listen to what the relatively new Nigerian

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President is trying to do, he's trying to tackle corruption in

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Nigeria. If you look at the Transparency International

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Nigeria. If you look at the you will find that they are quite

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high up the list. I suppose it you will find that they are quite

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is almost no such thing as a private conversation. It

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is almost no such thing as a private They knew that Cameron was there but

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perhaps they didn't think They knew that Cameron was there but

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was full stop a diplomatic disaster or a hiccup? As Hillary said, if you

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look at what they or a hiccup? As Hillary said, if you

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Nigeria says that his country had become one of the most corrupt

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countries and he is tackling it. It is said he was shocked and

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embarrassed. Yes, but that is what he said about his own country. It is

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not the same as someone else saying it. That is fair, but these

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countries come because they know we have to do better. As a world

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community, we have to cooperate to do the mac -- cooperate to deal with

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some of the big issues around money-laundering and corruption. It

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is more significant in the end than the comments themselves. Do you

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think David Cameron was showing off? I think Hillary is right that there

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is no such thing as a private conversation. We all say things,

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is no such thing as a private don't we? Do we? Tell me. Don't we?

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I don't we? Do we? Tell me. Don't we?

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every single conversation they have... But when you have the Queen

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every single conversation they informal situations. The reality is,

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we know there are corruption problems in

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we know there are corruption the world. There is an index of

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these things, some the world. There is an index of

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further to go, and we are determined to achieve more. Which bit of the

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sentence was not true? David Cameron is right, isn't he? There is a

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problem. There is grand corruption, where people take large amounts of

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money and stuff it in their pockets or spirit it abroad, and that is why

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action against money laundering is important. But the result is a petty

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corruption. You have state officials and teachers who say, I will teach

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your child but I am not paid enough of a salary to look after my family

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and myself, so would you make a contribution? Is it happens in some

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countries in the world. Not here? Of course, not here. Public sector

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salaries are really low. There are two mac problems. You need good

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governance, to collect your taxes effectively. Why are we giving aid

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to Nigeria? Is our view is that in order to tackle some of the endemic

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problems, you need all sorts of things. We have been giving it over

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for a long time and he says they are still fantastically corrupt. You

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would hardly take the view that every country that does not breach

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our standards should not be a recipient of aid. Is it improving

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Rabi throwing money down the drain? -- improving or are we throwing

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money down the drinkers like do you stand by and do nothing, let people

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suffer? Public policies have to be in place to address those problems.

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Let's turn to the Queen and her comments about Chinese officials,

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because there was obviously an incident. In terms of revealing our

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true feelings towards Chinese official, it shows how tense that

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situation is between us and the Chinese on these formal state

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visits, doesn't it? I wasn't aware of those tensions. The Queen in

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particular is entitled to private conversation. I don't propose to

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comment on what she said. What about you, John Hayes, will you comment?

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Does this our things with China? It would be unpatriotic to comment on

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what the sovereign says. Do you want every one of your private

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conversations recorded? Certainly not. In those situations, if I were

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there and had said something untoward, what impact do you think

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it would have on relations? I think Her Majesty is widely respected

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across the world. She has a lifetime of service, recognised here and

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abroad, and that is what really counts. Why shouldn't she just

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express our opinion? She was obviously irritated by what

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happened. She is the sovereign, why shouldn't she say what she thinks?

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Because she has a particular role which she has carried out with

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extraordinary skill, diligence, dedication and grace over the years.

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Maybe she would take the view that there should not be a directional

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mike pointing at me while I am having a private conversation. It is

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the first time that I have noticed private conversations being picked

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up. The cameraman for Buckingham Palace is paid for by the

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broadcaster, but I don't know about the sound. It is interesting that

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you raise that. I am working on a bill in the House, the investigatory

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Powers Bill, which deals with these issues was not at what point and in

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which way should privacy be protected? It is an important

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discussion in our free society. We have always taken it as read that

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there is a public space and a private space. This is a public

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space. There is a camera and a microphone. It is a public event.

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The Queen has done these for years. She knows the score. It was her

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camera that was there. She knows about the sound. The Prime Minister

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knew it as well. They knew exactly what they were doing. There is a

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difference between a conversation, and this was a conversational

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matter, and a public statement, a pronouncement, a speech, a meeting

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or discussion of a formal kind. That is the difference here. So are you

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are not -- so you are not calling for these to be switched off? I

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won't discuss what the Queen does and doesn't say. This is public, and

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there is a microphone, so beware. And we know that the Queen watches

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us every day when she can. Now the elections of last

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week are out of the way, the EU referendum campaign has

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intensified on both sides. The focus is now

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the vote on June 23rd. Both sides have wheeled

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out their big guns today. Boris Johnson launched a Vote Leave

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battlebus tour in Cornwall and Gordon Brown made the patriotic

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case for Britain to remain But they are just the latest

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in a series of high Here's JoCo to bring

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us up to speed. National security took centre stage

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on Sunday as two former spy chiefs Jonathan Evans and John Sawers,

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formerly of MI5 and MI6, said counter-terrorism was a "team

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game" and that it was easier for countries to share

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data within the EU. But the Justice Secretary

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Michael Gove hit back, accusing the spy bosses

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of being "flat wrong". And the Prime Minister raised

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the stakes on Monday, arguing that He said Britain had brought together

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countries that had been "at each other's throats for decades"

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and that leaving the EU would risk But Boris Johnson hit back,

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saying it was preposterous to suggest that leaving the EU

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could trigger World War III. Smith tried to get the focus back

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on to social justice, arguing that the EU was "a friend

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of the haves rather morning, Gordon Brown described

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leaving the EU as not British and not in keeping with the spirit of

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Churchill. Britain is not a position only to be

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a member of the European Britain is in a position and should

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be a leader in the European This referendum if it's

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about anything is about what kind of Britain we are and what kind

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of Britain we aspire to become. We should be a leader in Europe,

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not just a member. We should not be fully out

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and we should not be half We should recognise that the world

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has changed since the first referendum, and we should be

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the advocates of cooperation in an Gordon Brown, speaking at the London

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School of economic. Hilary Benn, Gordon Brown took Labour to one of

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its worst defeats in modern times. He is distinctly less popular south

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of the border than he is north of the border. Is he an asset for the

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Remain camping? He certainly is. Look at the KC has made. This notion

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that we are having to listen to from the League campaign that somehow we

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put upon in Europe, that we have no influence, is nonsense. I think

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everybody knows it. In the three years that he was Prime Minister, in

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what way did the lead Europe? We have always played a leading part in

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Europe. In his time in Chancellor and the part that Europe played in

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making new commitments to aid and debt relief, that is leadership that

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helps unlock change. When he was Minister, in what way... On climate

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change. Everyone was in favour of that. Britain was the first country

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to put climate change legislation on the statute book. We did that as an

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individual country, not as a member of the EU. You are asking about the

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influence we had. The leadership that Britain gave, including during

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the time that Gordon was Prime Minister, on climate

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the time that Gordon was Prime have an impact. You are seeing the

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fruit of that. The have an impact. You are seeing the

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agreed to climate change if it hadn't been for Britain? I'm not

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saying that. I am saying that we are in

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saying that. I am saying that we are the European Union helps us to

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manage face in the world, whether it be

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climate change, the refugee face in the world, whether it be

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would be to deny us that shouldn't be turning our face away

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from an important partnership with our immediate

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from an important partnership with way have we lead on the refugee

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crisis? Europe has had a difficult time on that. The Conservative

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crisis? Europe has had a difficult the crisis,

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crisis? Europe has had a difficult Minister has had to be pushed at

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every stage. Minister has had to be pushed at

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picture of the child appeared on the front pages, he said, we have done

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enough for Syria. How should we have led?

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How should we have lead? It is European countries working together.

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He should not have had to be battered into agreeing to take

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unaccompanied, child refugees who have made their way into Europe. At

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least we have an institution that is trying to grapple with what you

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would recognise as trying to grapple with what you

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difficult issue. Are you worried that given Jeremy Corbyn's lukewarm

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attitude to him that there is a problem getting the Labour vote out

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for remain and that is why Mr brown could be important? We are all now

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making the argument. The local elections are out of the way and the

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Labour Party is focused on one thing only, which is winning the

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referendum on the 23rd of June. We have a very distinct message we are

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bringing because Europe has helped support workers' writes,

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improvements in the environment. As Gordon said today, the idea that the

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British way is somehow to turn our back on the European Union, the fact

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is we are an influential and powerful nation. I was asking you

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about the Labour vote because the Remain Campaign cannot win without

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the Labour vote coming out in substantial numbers. It looks like

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the conservative vote is going to split 55-45 to leave. So you need

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that Labour vote, agree? Yes, indeed. The vast majority of the

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Shadow Cabinet and the major unions, we are taking a distinct message as

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to why it is good for growth investment and security. We have now

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had two former head of MI5, one former head of MI6, 13 former

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leading figures in the white House, former secretaries of State, all

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warning about the UK leaving, all saying it would be bad about our

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security. What bit of that message are you not getting? Europol is

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taking the opposite view. There are all kinds of people who share my

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view. That is two. The overwhelming weight of expertise is against you.

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Of course Hillary is right, that many of the problems we face are pan

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national. And of course Gordon brown is right, the world has changed

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since 1975. But it means it has changed so we have to reach out well

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beyond Europe. I have just come from a meeting with the head of Interpol.

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They have reached to 190 countries. We have that whether we are in or

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out. Precisely, that is my point. In what way are we more secure by

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leaving? Two ways. There are issues about how we determine our security

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policy and there is a creeping attempt by the European Union to

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have more say over that and we have resisted that the government. Why

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would that make us less secure? I believe our security and

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intelligence services and successive governments have got security policy

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right. I think we do have the skills and confidence. So we have got it

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right as members of the EU, so why change? We do not have control. Are

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you seriously telling me French intelligence is going to allow

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Brussels of all places, after what has happened, Brussels to take

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control of French intelligence? The European Union has a creeping desire

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to take more control of security. We are resisting the government. Give

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me an example. They are developing a pan-European policy view about how

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security policy should be gauged and implemented. That is job. No, it is

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the fact that we want to do things at our national level. We need to

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share intelligence. Yes, that is operational, of course we need to

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share information. Were we to leave the European Union, where it is in

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the mutual interest of countries they will not continue to share

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information? Will the French and the Germans do that? Of course not. Your

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argument is undermined by the voices of experience, people whose job it

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has been to keep the nation and the country safe and to protect us and

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they said this would be bad for our security. We are not part of the

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Schengen passport free arrangement which shows we are able to exercise

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our own judgment on things like that, just as we are not in the

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euro. But we participate in sharing information through the Schengen

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information system. As you know, that is important to our security.

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Why would you want to walk away from arrangements that help to protect us

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when the voices of people whose day-to-day job it is, and has been,

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to protect as I saying that would not be a good idea. Contrary to the

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picture that the income paying want to paint, what I am saying is can

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anyone seriously believe that countries would cease to want to

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cooperate and share information like you describe if we were outside the

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EU? Of course they would not because they want to keep their people say.

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Let's assume we can continue to share bilaterally whether we are in

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or out, but, Hillary and, what intelligence would we no longer

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enjoy if we were not in the EU? A lot of it would depend on what

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happens if the nation were to vote to leave. The honest answer is we do

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not know. What exists among EU intelligence arrangements that we

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would not enjoy if we left? Would we have access to the Schengen

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information system. Can you explain what information Schengen shares.

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Where there are warning notices and other information, there has been a

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big step forward... Interpol do that. Hang on, the Parliament has

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recently agreed arrangements on sharing of data which is helping to

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make passenger names... We can do that already. If you filled in

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advance to go to the United States, that happens in America, we could do

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that to any country if we wanted to. We could, but you asked me what

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would change? And the answer is we do not know and that is the weakness

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of the Leave Campaign's argument. Let's take this passenger database.

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You have had to share passenger data to go to the US for some time and

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vice versa. There has been a push to get that done in Europe as well and

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the European institutions, the European Parliament, have stopped

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it. Where does that help us? It is only now they have finally agreed.

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As you have just answered the question, the European Parliament

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has now agreed to rules that would enable that data to be shared and

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that is a practical example of how cooperation work. It took ten years.

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It helps our security. We need cooperation work. It took ten years.

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doing things in other parts... The idea that there is some kind of

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competition that either we cooperate in Europe or globally, we need to do

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both. We need to move on. We need to move on. We have got another several

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weeks of this, there is no need to rush.

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How many days? It says 42.

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We don't want any "rogue markers" getting their hands on the answer

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We've password protected the answer, locked it in a safe behind closed

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And that was convenient having a guarding it with her life.

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And that was convenient having a rogue marker

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And, the only way you can win one of these is to tell

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# I know you'll get to like it if you give it a chance now.

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It's coming up to midday here - just take a look at Big Ben -

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and that can mean only one thing: yes, Prime Minister's

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And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here.

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So, you have got quite a strong track record, so no pressure here.

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What are the exact six questions that Jeremy Corbyn is going to ask

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today? No questions about rogue marking or leaking of anything

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before the real test comes. A couple of suggestions have made their way

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to meet this morning. One is housing because the laws and the commons are

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locked in because of the housing bill. Although it has not been

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ringing bells all over the place because politics is so busy, one

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minister described to me recently it is the most ideological

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controversial thing that the government is trying to do. I was

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struck by that. That would fit with Jeremy Corbyn's passions. There was

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another suggestion he might start to talk about the EU referendum, which

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is something he has not done until now. If he does, it is hard to see

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where he could go on it. What is the question? This morning I am not

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going to make a crystal clear prediction. I have made a couple of

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suggestions, but no leaks in the Daily Politics studio. Is there any

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chance you think that given the Prime Minister's quite strident

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attack last week on the kind of platforms that Mr Sadiq Khan was

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sharing, and he has no comfortably won the City Hall, more so than Mr

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Livingstone or Mr Johnson, is there any chance that Jeremy Corbyn may

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ask for our retraction or an apology or a withdrawal? That could be quite

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controversial. Yes, it would and it would be difficult for the Prime

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Minister as well. Whatever has happened in the campaign committee

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is now one of the most powerful politicians in the country. And he

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has reached out. And he has reached out in a very pointed way in

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contrast to Jeremy Corbyn's leadership. It would be tricky for

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the Prime Minister, given that last week's Prime Minister 's questions

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was more like Jeremy Corbyn's camp Corbyn. The Prime Minister used it

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as a robust defence of that Goldsmith. You never know, it would

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make for a very interesting positioning challenge for the Prime

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Minister. Is problem is when he goes on something like housing, which is

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hugely important, it should have been the most important subject in

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the London election campaign, it was not important enough for last year's

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general election, and it is not already up there in the headlines,

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unless there is some major breakthrough or development, it

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struggles to make its way into the news tomorrow unless there is

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something that PMQs. It could end up being like a paper aeroplane and end

:29:29.:29:31.

up on the floor, not hitting any of the targets. You are right,

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grappling with the platform you get at PMQs, like it or not, it is the

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best opportunity that any opposition leader has got to try to get into

:29:43.:29:47.

the mainstream debate. Because of that they tend to have the best

:29:48.:29:51.

chances of success of getting their agenda across when they choose to go

:29:52.:29:56.

on the issues that are already running at 100 miles an hour, the

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issues already preoccupying Westminster, those that we know the

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public are very concerned about. You are right, that is a problem Jeremy

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Corbyn has come up against, whether or not it is housing or mental

:30:09.:30:13.

health. Other issues like that are of huge importance to the country.

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But we should say last week, like the previous week, Labour very

:30:18.:30:33.

successfully and Lucy Powell has pushed education again and again.

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Nicky Morgan, the Education Secretary, has had a very difficult

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time. Jeremy Corbyn at PMQs was part of that campaign. The Prime Minister

:30:44.:30:50.

still tried to deny things and Innocenti won that argument and the

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test in which they won it is they sneaked it out on Friday when

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everyone was trying to digests the election results. Talk about burying

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bad news. I think Nicky Morgan has not got off scot-free because since

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then she has had a very torrid session in the House of Commond,

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struggling to explain precisely what the government's policy now is. The

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government is trying to have it both ways on academy schools. They are

:31:20.:31:22.

saying it is our intention that every school should be an academy.

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That was always the case. Why don't they get it when you have got such a

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small majority? You have got to do what used to be done, you produce a

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Green paper first of all to get the reactions, take into account the

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criticism and then go to the policy. Or do what the government used to

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do. In coalition they had a chord. They had a huge majority when the

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Lib Dems and Tories got together, 80 or so. Your viewers might say it was

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79. One minister said to me that all that used to have to happen was that

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George Osborne used to have to get Nick Clegg to agree. They used to

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have robust argument inside that quartet. They were tested. That

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internal challenge was there. Now, because they take a rather dim view

:32:20.:32:23.

of the effectiveness of the opposition, the conversation about

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where will the opposition pickles has gone. We go straight over.

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This morning, I had meetings with ministers and colleagues and I will

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have further meetings today. Even fantastically corrupt Nigeria

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is asking Britain to clean up its act and introduce beneficial

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ownership registers in the overseas territories. We'll be Prime Minister

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achieve this tomorrow at the anti-corruption Summit? -- will be

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Prime Minister? I want to check the microphone is on before speaking. I

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thank him for his question. The answer is yes. We have asked three

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things of the overseas territories and Crown dependencies - automatic

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exchange of tax information, a common reporting standard for

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multinational companies, and for central beneficial ownership

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registry so that UK enforcement can know who owns companies based there.

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They have delivered on the first two, and they will be following and

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delivering on the third. That is what he asked for and what he is

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getting. Mr Speaker, in my constituency there is unprecedented

:33:48.:33:50.

housing growth. Does the Prime Minister agree that we must build

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sufficient starter homes so that the dream of home ownership becomes

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something that everybody really can aspire to? I want to thank my

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constituency neighbour and honourable friend for raising that

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question. The fact is, we are building more houses right across

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England. We are building more affordable homes, and the

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legislation going through this House and the other place will make sure

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we deliver our pledge of 200,000 starter homes. Those are the ones we

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want to see, affordable for people to buy. I hope that even at this

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late stage, the Labour Party in the House of Lords. Blocking this bill.

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Jeremy Corbyn. -- the Labour Party in the house of lords will stop

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blocking this bill. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Since we

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often celebrate great national event in this House, would be Prime

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Minister join me in wishing Sir David Attenborough a very happy 90th

:34:58.:35:03.

birthday and thank him for the way he has presented nature programmes

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on television and awakened the ideas of so many people to the fragility

:35:07.:35:11.

of our ecosystem and educated a whole generation? Mr Speaker, on

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this side of the House, we are fully aware... I haven't asked the

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question yet, it's OK! We are fully aware that the European Union has

:35:27.:35:31.

strength the rights of workers in many ways. In March, while the Prime

:35:32.:35:36.

Minister was trying to undermine workers' writes with his trade union

:35:37.:35:41.

Bill, the European Commission put forward proposals to close loopholes

:35:42.:35:46.

in the posting of workers directive which would stop employers

:35:47.:35:51.

exploiting foreign workers and undercutting national rates of pay.

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We'll be Prime Minister confirm that his Government will protect workers

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and will back these reforms to stop this undercutting and grotesque

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exploitation of workers across this continent? First, I join the right

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Honourable gentleman in wishing a very happy birthday to David

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Attenborough. Many of us in this House feel that we grew up with him

:36:16.:36:19.

as our teacher about the natural world and the environment. He is

:36:20.:36:24.

remarkable. I am proud to say that the Royals survey ship, the Arctic

:36:25.:36:30.

ship, will be named after David Attenborough. There was strong

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support for Boaty McBoatface, and I think the submarine, or the life

:36:43.:36:45.

raft, on the boat will be named that. On the workers directive, we

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are looking closely, working with our partners. We see some merit in

:36:51.:36:54.

what is being proposed. I can say that the yellow card procedure has

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been invoked by national parliaments, demonstrating the

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importance of these safeguards, much of which we reacted -- achieved in

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my re-negotiation does not the best thing we can do for workers' writes

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in this country is celebrate the national living wage introduced by

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this Government. The national minimum wage was a Labour

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introduction. The living wage proposed by the Chancellor is a

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corruption of the very idea of it. It is not, in reality, a proper

:37:25.:37:31.

living wage. But, Mr Speaker, my question was about the posting of

:37:32.:37:36.

workers directive which would prevent the grotesque exploitation

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by unscrupulous employers of workers being moved from one nation to

:37:40.:37:44.

another in order to undercut the wages of the second nation. We'll be

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Prime Minister be absolutely clear? Will be British Government support

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this very important reform to stop this exploitation? As I said, we are

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working with the Dutch presidency. We think there is merit in a lot of

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the proposals, but we want to make sure we get the details right. Let

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me pull them up on something - he has described the national living

:38:08.:38:14.

wage as a corruption. It is ?7.20 per hour, a ?20 per week pay writers

:38:15.:38:20.

of the poorest in our country. I really think he ought to get up and

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say he supports the national living wage and thanks the Government for

:38:26.:38:32.

introducing it. I support a wage rise, obviously does not the point I

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am making is that it is not a living wage. It is not a living wage as is

:38:37.:38:46.

generally understood. Mr Speaker, saying yes seems to be one of the

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hardest word for the Prime Minister. For radar time, could he say whether

:38:51.:38:56.

he does or does not support the posting of workers directive? He

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might be aware that Patrick Minford, a former economic adviser to

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Margaret Thatcher, has said that the European Union has a negative effect

:39:04.:39:09.

on the City of London, and he would want the shackles European

:39:10.:39:15.

regulation removed. Does the Prime Minister believed that membership

:39:16.:39:20.

hurts the City of London, or does he believe that European Union

:39:21.:39:25.

regulation of the finance sector in Britain and British- administered

:39:26.:39:33.

tax havens would help the sort of bad practice exposed by the Panama

:39:34.:39:37.

papers or underlined by my friend in his earlier question today? This is

:39:38.:39:43.

an area where we basically agree about the European Union, so I will

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try to identify a question and answer as positively as I can. On

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Patrick Minford, I completely disagree with the Economist Patrick

:39:53.:39:58.

Minford. He wants to see manufacturing industry in our

:39:59.:40:01.

country obliterate it, and I think it would be disastrous to follow his

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advice. In terms of the City of London, we need the right regulation

:40:07.:40:11.

for the City of London to continue its massive rate of job creation and

:40:12.:40:15.

wealth creation in our country, but we also need to remain members of

:40:16.:40:19.

the single market because it is absolutely vital for this important

:40:20.:40:23.

sector of our economy. I hope that on that, as on the national living

:40:24.:40:29.

wage, we can find some agreement. The question I also put the Prime

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Minister, which perhaps he wasn't listening to, was what he was going

:40:37.:40:45.

to do... What I asked was what he's going to do about the UK-

:40:46.:40:51.

administered tax havens which receive large sums of money from

:40:52.:40:56.

dodgy sources which should and must be closed down, as should any tax

:40:57.:41:02.

evasion in the City of London. We need a British Government that is

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prepared to chase down this level of corruption. This Government has done

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more than any previous Government to deal with this issue, making sure

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that our overseas territories and Crown dependencies are not tax

:41:17.:41:21.

behave -- tax havens but behave in a responsible way. We are now taking

:41:22.:41:25.

part in the automatic exchange of tax information, which didn't happen

:41:26.:41:29.

before. We have signed up to a common reporting standard for

:41:30.:41:31.

multinational companies, which didn't happen before. And there will

:41:32.:41:36.

be central registry so we can find out who owns the companies. All of

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these things are real progress. Of course, we would like to go further

:41:42.:41:45.

in her public registry is beneficial ownership, as we are introducing in

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this country, not because of the Labour Government but because of a

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decision by a Conservative Prime Minister, but where I would urge him

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to be fair is that many of the Crown dependencies have gone much further

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than many developed countries. Indeed, you actually get more

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information now out of some of our Crown dependencies and overseas

:42:08.:42:09.

territories than you would out of the United States in terms of

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Delaware. Let's be fair on these, for which we have a responsibility,

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we are making them improve their record and he should acknowledge it.

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we are making them improve their Mr Speaker, a month ago, the Prime

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Minister informed the House that he welcomed the European Union

:42:28.:42:28.

proposals on country by country taxed transparency reporting. We

:42:29.:42:37.

agreed with that. Yet, on the 26th of April, Conservative MEPs voted

:42:38.:42:40.

against these proposals. Did they not received the memo of what?

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People expect that people pay their tax in this country. Tomorrow, the

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European Parliament will be voting again on country by country

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reporting. Can he assure the House that Conservative members of the

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European Parliament will support these measures as he told us they

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European Parliament will support thing is that we support these

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measures. The Government supports these measures. Indeed, these

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measures have only come forward because it has been a Conservative

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Government in the United Kingdom proposing them. The only area of

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disagreement, I would suspect, between himself and myself is, I

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don't think we between himself and myself is, I

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has always been a position of Labour Government and previous Conservative

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governments, that while we want to make sure that these territories

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behave properly, we don't actually make them set a minimum tax rate.

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That is the difference between us. If he wants to swap voting records

:43:50.:43:52.

of Labour and Tory MEPs, let's have a whole session, because I have

:43:53.:43:55.

plenty of material in here. That was a very long answer... When he could

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have quite simply said whether or not he supports these proposals, and

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if his Conservative MEPs will vote for them. Mr Speaker, the Prime

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Minister will be very well aware of the concern across the whole country

:44:28.:44:32.

about the question of unaccompanied child refugees across Europe. They

:44:33.:44:38.

are in a desperate plight and a dangerous situation. Everyone's

:44:39.:44:41.

heart reaches out to them, but we have to do more than that and be

:44:42.:44:46.

practical in our help for them. I got a letter this week from a

:44:47.:44:50.

voluntary worker with child refugees called Hannah. She wrote about these

:44:51.:44:55.

children, some of whom have family members in this country. Can the

:44:56.:44:59.

Prime Minister confirm that in respect of the response to Lord dubs

:45:00.:45:06.

amendment, there will be no delay whatsoever in accepting 3000

:45:07.:45:08.

unaccompanied child refugees into this country to give them the

:45:09.:45:12.

support they need and allow them to enjoy the childhood they and all our

:45:13.:45:18.

children deserve? All I can say is that we will follow his amendment.

:45:19.:45:23.

That is now the law the land. The amendment says we have to consult

:45:24.:45:27.

very carefully with local authorities to make sure that as we

:45:28.:45:32.

take these children in we are able to house them, clothe them and feed

:45:33.:45:36.

them, make sure the properly looked after. So we need to look at the

:45:37.:45:41.

capacity of our care system. If you look at some councils, particularly

:45:42.:45:45.

in Kent and southern England, they are already struggling because of

:45:46.:45:47.

the number unaccompanied children who come in. Two figures, last year,

:45:48.:45:53.

3000 unaccompanied children arrived and claimed asylum in the UK even

:45:54.:45:58.

before the scheme that is being introduced. Second, under Dublin,

:45:59.:46:03.

children with a connection to the UK can already claim asylum in France

:46:04.:46:08.

or Italy then come to the UK. We have accepted 30 such transfers

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since February. What I can say is, there will be no delay, we will get

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on with it as fast as we can, but in order to follow the law we have to

:46:17.:46:18.

talk to local authorities first. During President Obama's recent

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visit, was the Prime Minister able to talk to him about the Chinese

:46:29.:46:31.

dumping of steel and the robust action he has taken in the United

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States to address it, including increasing tariffs to 288%? Will he

:46:37.:46:46.

increased the tariffs and tell the Chinese to go to the back of the

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line? I did discuss this with President Obama and both the

:46:53.:46:56.

European Union and the US have taken action against Chinese dumping. The

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excess steel capacity in China is 25 times higher than the UK's entire

:47:02.:47:06.

production. The anti-dumping tariffs we have produced in the EU have been

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very effective and in some areas have reduced Chinese exports to as

:47:13.:47:17.

much as 98%. EU action does work and if we were outside the EU, we might

:47:18.:47:21.

be subject to those tariffs ourselves. The Prime Minister's

:47:22.:47:30.

government was elected with 37% of the vote, so I am sure he would

:47:31.:47:35.

acknowledge the success of Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP in being

:47:36.:47:41.

returned victoriously for a third time with 46%, the highest of any

:47:42.:47:48.

political party in national elections anywhere currently in

:47:49.:47:53.

Western Europe. Mr Speaker, on the anti-corruption Summit, has the

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Prime Minister read the appeals from Nigerian campaigners who say, our

:47:58.:48:02.

efforts are sadly undermined if countries such as your own are

:48:03.:48:08.

welcoming our corrupt to hide their ill gotten gains in your luxury

:48:09.:48:13.

homes, department stores, car dealerships and private schools and

:48:14.:48:17.

anywhere else that will accept their cash with no questions asked? The

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role of London's property as vessels to hide this money, what is the

:48:26.:48:33.

Prime Minister going to do about this? I am delighted to congratulate

:48:34.:48:38.

Nicola Sturgeon on her victory, as I want to congratulate Ruth Davidson

:48:39.:48:51.

on Harris. We have something in common, the SNP have gone from a

:48:52.:48:56.

majority to a minority, while the Conservatives have gone from

:48:57.:49:02.

coalition to a majority. Next week he can get on with asking me how we

:49:03.:49:06.

are getting on with ordering some more pandas for Edinburgh zoo. The

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question he asks about the corruption Summit is right. The

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whole point about holding this summit is to say that the action is

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necessary by developed countries as well as developing countries. One of

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the steps we are making is that foreign companies have to declare

:49:26.:49:29.

with the beneficial owner is to make sure that plundered money from

:49:30.:49:33.

African countries cannot be hidden in London. It would be helpful if he

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could confirm that that list would be publicly available and not just

:49:39.:49:42.

accessible to the police. Seeing as the Prime Minister is prepared to

:49:43.:49:45.

lecture other countries on corruption, could he explain why

:49:46.:49:50.

seven police forces in the UK have launched criminal investigations

:49:51.:49:53.

into Conservative MPs for potential electoral fraud? Mr Speaker, it is

:49:54.:50:02.

very serious, so how is it that a Conservative crime and policing

:50:03.:50:05.

commissioner can serve in such a role when being under police

:50:06.:50:10.

investigation? First of all, let's be clear about this anti-corruption

:50:11.:50:16.

Summit. Nobody is lecturing anybody. One of the reasons this issue does

:50:17.:50:20.

not get addressed is because countries and politicians are too

:50:21.:50:24.

worried about addressing it, knowing that no country is perfect, nor is

:50:25.:50:29.

any politician. It is right for Britain to take this lead, not least

:50:30.:50:34.

because we meet our contribution on aid, but we are entitled to raise

:50:35.:50:39.

this issue. As for the electoral commission, the whole point is it is

:50:40.:50:46.

independent and when it comes to operation on decisions by a police

:50:47.:50:50.

force they are independent as well. That is the hallmark of a

:50:51.:50:56.

non-corrupt country. I know my right honourable friend will want to join

:50:57.:50:59.

with me in congratulating Katie born who was re-elected as the Police and

:51:00.:51:05.

Crime Commissioner, topping the poll in Crawley, significantly for her

:51:06.:51:12.

work in helping victims. In that respect, will the Prime Minister

:51:13.:51:17.

introduce a British bill of rights as soon as possible? I am happy to

:51:18.:51:23.

make that commitment and let me join him in congratulating all the

:51:24.:51:28.

candidates who were successful. In a minute. What we saw in the Police

:51:29.:51:33.

and Crime Commissioner elections was a very large increase in turnout,

:51:34.:51:40.

sometimes as much as 25% point increase in turnout. This new role

:51:41.:51:46.

in our country is bedding in well. I am happy to congratulate Carwyn

:51:47.:51:50.

Jones, Arlene Foster, who will be First Minister of Northern Ireland.

:51:51.:51:55.

I spoke to her and the Deputy First Minister yesterday. I also

:51:56.:52:01.

congratulate Sadiq Khan who won a victory in London and we look

:52:02.:52:04.

forward to working with him for the benefit of Londoners. When Hall was

:52:05.:52:11.

left out of the government's plans for rail electrification for the

:52:12.:52:13.

North, whole business got for rail electrification for the

:52:14.:52:15.

and produce a privately financed scheme to do the work for the

:52:16.:52:21.

and produce a privately financed of Culture, 2017. It has been with

:52:22.:52:25.

the Department for Transport for two years. Does the Prime Minister think

:52:26.:52:27.

their attitude shows years. Does the Prime Minister think

:52:28.:52:30.

indifference to the scheme years. Does the Prime Minister think

:52:31.:52:36.

been put forward with private money? The honourable lady is being unfair

:52:37.:52:40.

on the department, not least because passengers will benefit from 500

:52:41.:52:43.

brand-new carriages and the passengers will benefit from 500

:52:44.:52:50.

of outdated trains. ?1.4 million of investment is going into the station

:52:51.:52:53.

to be delivered before it becomes the UK City of Culture. The

:52:54.:52:57.

Department for Transport is the UK City of Culture. The

:52:58.:53:00.

considering the case to complete electrification

:53:01.:53:03.

considering the case to complete how. We make these investments

:53:04.:53:07.

because we are investing in our infrastructure and have a strong

:53:08.:53:12.

economy. I recently visited Silent Night, will the Prime Minister join

:53:13.:53:20.

me in congratulating them on the success of this scheme which has

:53:21.:53:26.

allowed them to award all of their 1000 employees with a ?250 thank you

:53:27.:53:32.

bonus? I am happy to join my honourable friend in congratulating

:53:33.:53:38.

them. I remember visiting them in 2014. They employed 800 people.

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They're now employ 1100 people and that is a good example of a business

:53:44.:53:48.

expanding under this government. They are big backers of

:53:49.:53:52.

apprenticeships and our target is 3 million apprenticeships under this

:53:53.:53:58.

Parliament. Already in 2016, at least 46 women have been murdered in

:53:59.:54:02.

the UK. This number would be much higher if not for specialist

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refuges. I am standing to bake the Prime Minister to exempt refuge

:54:10.:54:12.

accommodation from the changes to housing benefit. This will certainly

:54:13.:54:20.

close services. I do not want to hear a stock answer about the 40

:54:21.:54:23.

million over the next few years. He knows that that will not stop

:54:24.:54:28.

refuges setting. Will he choose to save lives? Please. The honourable

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lady raises an important point and that is why we delayed the

:54:36.:54:38.

introduction of this change so we could look at all of the possible

:54:39.:54:42.

consequences and make sure we get it right so that we can help vulnerable

:54:43.:54:51.

people. HIV infection rates in the UK are on the rise. My right

:54:52.:54:56.

honourable friend will be aware that NHS England have refused to fund

:54:57.:55:04.

pre-exposure prophylactic treatment. Will my right honourable friend meet

:55:05.:55:08.

with me and leading aids charities so that we can review this

:55:09.:55:13.

unacceptable decision? My understanding is that NHS England

:55:14.:55:17.

are considering their commissioning responsibility. I want them to reach

:55:18.:55:21.

a decision on this quickly this month if possible. There is a rising

:55:22.:55:27.

rate of infection that these treatments can help and make a

:55:28.:55:30.

difference too. We are planning trial sites. They are already under

:55:31.:55:37.

way and we are investing ?2 million to support this. I will make sure he

:55:38.:55:41.

gets the meetings he needs to make progress with this. In my first year

:55:42.:55:49.

as an MP every person in my constituency advice surgery has been

:55:50.:55:53.

an anxious council tenant, usually mother, father and two children

:55:54.:55:56.

living in a one-bedroom flat and they are often in tears. They cannot

:55:57.:56:01.

afford to rent in the private market and they cannot afford to buy their

:56:02.:56:05.

council flat and they cannot afford a starter home. With the Prime

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Minister explain that I can read to them from Hansard White in his view

:56:11.:56:15.

the Housing Bill will not make their intolerable situation worse I see

:56:16.:56:20.

Mark what I would say is there are a series of things that will help

:56:21.:56:24.

them. First of all, making sure the right to buy is therefore a housing

:56:25.:56:29.

association tenants as well as council tenants with the full

:56:30.:56:33.

discount makes a difference. Because you have got help to buy, which

:56:34.:56:37.

means people need a smaller amount of equity to buy their house, that

:56:38.:56:42.

helps as well. Starter homes will make a difference because they will

:56:43.:56:47.

be more affordable. Added to that, shared accommodation homes means

:56:48.:56:54.

that where you previously needed a deposit of ?30,000, you may be able

:56:55.:56:58.

to buy a house for just a few thousand pounds deposit. All of

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those things make a difference and for those in estate that need

:57:04.:57:07.

regeneration we are backing the regeneration that never happened

:57:08.:57:11.

under a Labour government. I am proud this government has delivered

:57:12.:57:16.

a record low unemployment levels in my constituency of 6%. This

:57:17.:57:20.

government delivered the Cardiff city deal, and investment into

:57:21.:57:27.

infrastructure. Does the Prime Minister share my eagerness to see

:57:28.:57:34.

electrification of the city and Valley lines delivered in Wales? My

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honourable friend is right to raise these issues because the money is

:57:41.:57:45.

there and now, frankly, with a new Welsh government in place we need

:57:46.:57:50.

the action, particularly on the M4. We have given the Welsh government

:57:51.:57:55.

500 million increased borrowing powers, the delay in upgrading the

:57:56.:57:59.

motorway is damaging business in South Wales and it is high time the

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Welsh government got on with it. Mr Speaker, a report claims it is money

:58:09.:58:13.

rather than religious fervour that attracts recruitment to Isis, while

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the Syrian army pays less money and Isis can pay more money due to its

:58:26.:58:29.

funding and sophistication. Does the Prime Minister need much more needs

:58:30.:58:33.

to be done to offer alternative economic avenues for Syrians and to

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undermine the brains behind Isis? I agree with what he says about

:58:43.:58:45.

development and aid and that is why we have a serious aid budget. Right

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now in Syria it is difficult to get aid and benefit through. If we truly

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see this as them recruiting people because they are paying them, we

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would miss the point. The cancer of Islamist extremist violence is

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damaging our world and our country and not just in Syria and we have to

:59:06.:59:10.

understand the nature of that extremism if we are to defeat it. A

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business park in my constituency will create 300,000 new jobs. Will

:59:18.:59:22.

the Prime Minister join me in congratulating its first new talent,

:59:23.:59:33.

Fat Face? I think the claimant count in his constituency has fallen by a

:59:34.:59:39.

staggering 52% since 2010, and we need to keep on with this by making

:59:40.:59:43.

sure we are expanding the training and the apprentice that make sure

:59:44.:59:47.

that young people get the jobs. The Prime Minister said that the UK was

:59:48.:59:56.

becoming a surveillance state and he promised to sweep the whole edifice

:59:57.:00:00.

away. That he has made a U-turn and his investigative Powers Bill

:00:01.:00:06.

proposes to retain a record of everybody in the UK. Why is he

:00:07.:00:13.

championing ineffective mass surveillance in government? I

:00:14.:00:17.

disagree with the honourable gentleman and I hope he will follow

:00:18.:00:21.

and listen to the debates that take place on this vital bill. The fact

:00:22.:00:26.

is if you want to make sure that we can keep our country safe, just as

:00:27.:00:31.

we have been able to see the Communications data when two people

:00:32.:00:35.

talk to each other on a mobile phone or a fixed phone, so if that

:00:36.:00:39.

conversation is taking place on an Internet site, is he happy for plots

:00:40.:00:44.

to be hatched, terrorism to be planned,

:00:45.:00:57.

murderers to be arranged, because people are using an Internet site

:00:58.:01:01.

rather than a telephone? My answer is no. We have to modernise our

:01:02.:01:03.

capabilities to keep our country safe and that is what this bill is

:01:04.:01:06.

about. My right honourable friend said in 2015 that access to the

:01:07.:01:10.

Internet should not be a luxury, but right. The press release said that

:01:11.:01:15.

every home and business would have access to fast broadband by the hand

:01:16.:01:20.

this Parliament. With my right honourable friend say today that

:01:21.:01:25.

this Parliament. With my right this commitment will be honoured? My

:01:26.:01:25.

right honourable friend will have to wait for the Queen's speech when we

:01:26.:01:33.

set out how we are going to make this access available to our

:01:34.:01:34.

citizens. Will the Prime Minister this access available to our

:01:35.:01:41.

work with the Scottish Government to blood delivery of funding for the

:01:42.:01:47.

Tay area, Dundee and the surrounding area? I

:01:48.:01:50.

Tay area, Dundee and the surrounding commitment. I think city deals are

:01:51.:01:55.

working. They are working in Scotland

:01:56.:01:58.

working. They are working in for the Aberdeen city deal. City

:01:59.:02:02.

working. They are working in deals can only work if we are all

:02:03.:02:10.

part of one happy United Kingdom. Respected journalist Laura

:02:11.:02:13.

Kuenssberg has been subjected to an online hate campaign which appears

:02:14.:02:18.

to be a sexist witchhunt to silence her. Increasingly this is a tool

:02:19.:02:22.

used against people in public life by those who take an opposing view.

:02:23.:02:27.

Will my right honourable friend condemned this kind of harassment

:02:28.:02:28.

and will he work with condemned this kind of harassment

:02:29.:02:33.

social media platforms to reserve the right to speak freely without

:02:34.:02:39.

intimidation or hate? We must be able to speak freely and we must

:02:40.:02:44.

have a robust and lively democracy, but some of the things people say on

:02:45.:02:46.

twitter, knowing that they are in some way anonymous, are frankly

:02:47.:02:52.

appalling and people should be ashamed of the sort of sexist

:02:53.:02:58.

bullying that often takes place. Last week London elected the new

:02:59.:03:05.

Mayor... With an overwhelming mandate to tackle London's housing

:03:06.:03:11.

crisis, a crisis many of us fear the Housing Bill will make worse. Last

:03:12.:03:16.

April the Prime Minister launched a manifesto promising to replace

:03:17.:03:18.

council houses with affordable homes in the same area. Why is he

:03:19.:03:24.

proposing an amendment to the Housing Bill this afternoon which

:03:25.:03:26.

implements last year's manifesto commitments? Let me again

:03:27.:03:32.

congratulate Sadiq Khan for his victory and we look forward to

:03:33.:03:36.

working with him on issues that matter to Londoners. I would put the

:03:37.:03:41.

question back to the honourable lady. Our Housing Bill means that

:03:42.:03:45.

every high-value properties sold will mean two new affordable homes

:03:46.:03:52.

in London. Why is it the Labour Party and the other plays are

:03:53.:03:57.

opposing what will mean more houses, more affordable housing and more

:03:58.:04:02.

home ownership? They talk a good game, but at the end of the day they

:04:03.:04:11.

are the enemies of aspiration. During military operations in

:04:12.:04:16.

Afghanistan, British forces were reliant on local interpreters who

:04:17.:04:20.

constantly put themselvess in harm's way. I saw with my own eyes how

:04:21.:04:29.

brave these interpreters work. Does he agree it is a stain on our

:04:30.:04:32.

honoured that we have abandoned a large number of them to be

:04:33.:04:35.

threatened by the Taliban. Some have been murdered and others have had to

:04:36.:04:40.

flee in fear of their lives. We owe them a huge debt of gratitude and

:04:41.:04:44.

honour and we must provide safety and sanctuary for them here. We

:04:45.:04:51.

debated and discussed around the National Security Council table in

:04:52.:04:53.

the Coalition Government and announced in the House of commons a

:04:54.:04:57.

scheme to make sure that those people who had helped our forces in

:04:58.:05:01.

terms of translation and other services were given the opportunity

:05:02.:05:06.

of coming here. We set up one scheme to encourage that and another

:05:07.:05:10.

generous scheme to try and encourage those who wanted to stay, or who had

:05:11.:05:15.

not been translated for a long period, to stay in Afghanistan and

:05:16.:05:20.

help rebuild that country. It is important to have both schemes in

:05:21.:05:24.

place, rather than to say that everyone can come to the UK. Let's

:05:25.:05:28.

back Afghans to rebuild their own country. The Prime Minister has

:05:29.:05:33.

confirmed to me that should we leave the EU, then the European funding

:05:34.:05:39.

for the very poorest parts of Wales will cease. Will he confirm that in

:05:40.:05:44.

such a case the UK Government would make up such a difference? The point

:05:45.:05:49.

I would make to the honourable gentleman, as I would to anyone

:05:50.:05:53.

asking what would happen if we were to leave, is I do not think we could

:05:54.:05:58.

give a guarantee. I want to go on making sure that poor regions and

:05:59.:06:02.

part of our country are properly supported. If, as I think it is the

:06:03.:06:08.

case, that we would find our economy hit by leaving and our tax receipts,

:06:09.:06:12.

that will impact the amount of funding we can put into agriculture,

:06:13.:06:17.

research and poor are part of our country. The right option is boat to

:06:18.:06:27.

remain in. Can I support the Prime Minister in his comments about

:06:28.:06:31.

Nigeria and Afghanistan? I want to ask him if he will stop pouring

:06:32.:06:35.

hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers' money into those

:06:36.:06:39.

countries until they have cleaned up their act. Can he tell us where he

:06:40.:06:46.

has the European Union in his leak of corruption? I thank my honourable

:06:47.:06:54.

friend for his help and support and his tips on diplomacy as well. They

:06:55.:07:03.

are useful. Countries like Nigeria and Afghanistan, their leaders are

:07:04.:07:07.

battling hard against very corrupt systems and countries. In both cases

:07:08.:07:11.

they have made remarkable steps forward and I am keen to welcome

:07:12.:07:14.

them to the anti-corruption conference in London. But I do not

:07:15.:07:20.

think it would be right to withdraw the aid that we give because the

:07:21.:07:24.

problems in those countries come back and haunt us here, whether it

:07:25.:07:28.

is problems of migration or terrorism and all the rest of it. We

:07:29.:07:34.

are a country involved in a dangerous, global world and I our

:07:35.:07:40.

aid budget, 0.7%, alongside our defence budget, 2%, a way of keeping

:07:41.:07:49.

us safe in a dangerous world as well as fulfilling our moral

:07:50.:07:54.

responsibilities. The noise makes it necessary to outdo the Barclays

:07:55.:08:01.

Premier League matches in terms of injury time. It is a pleasure to

:08:02.:08:10.

recall Jill Furniss. 22 years ago we saw in the country's biggest

:08:11.:08:14.

sporting disaster. It is true we will not have the truth. Will the

:08:15.:08:28.

Prime Minister initiate an enquiry? The Home Secretary has met with that

:08:29.:08:31.

group and is considering the point is that they have put forward and

:08:32.:08:35.

they will come to their conclusions in the right time. Business leaders

:08:36.:08:42.

in Cornwall and up and down the country are awaiting news on airport

:08:43.:08:47.

expansion in the South East. Following this morning's

:08:48.:08:50.

announcement by Heathrow airport that they are accepting all the

:08:51.:08:55.

recommendations, and can the Prime Minister update the House and does

:08:56.:09:00.

he agree that the third runway at Heathrow offers the best for

:09:01.:09:08.

prosperity for our country? With my many unforced errors in the last 24

:09:09.:09:12.

hours, can I apologise to the honourable lady because I should

:09:13.:09:16.

have welcomed her to the House of commons and congratulated her on her

:09:17.:09:20.

by-election victory. She has already lost no time in speaking up for her

:09:21.:09:26.

constituents in a very powerful way. As we announced earlier this year,

:09:27.:09:29.

there are issues of air quality that need to be resolved. We are on our

:09:30.:09:34.

way to working out how to resolve them and when we do we welcome back

:09:35.:09:37.

to the House and announce happens next. My constituent's mother was

:09:38.:09:44.

killed in 1981 and at the time it was covered up as a suicide pact.

:09:45.:09:49.

But 18 years later it was discovered she was murdered by her father and

:09:50.:09:54.

his mistress. No one can imagine that the pain and suffering that her

:09:55.:09:58.

and her family have had to endure. But they now have had to relive this

:09:59.:10:03.

pain because ITV are dramatising their whole ordeal completely

:10:04.:10:08.

against their wishes, using not only their real names, but also her own.

:10:09.:10:12.

I have raised this with ITV and Ofcom and no rules have been broken,

:10:13.:10:16.

but does the Prime Minister not agree that victims' voices should

:10:17.:10:21.

have a far greater role? Will he meet with me and my constituent to

:10:22.:10:26.

discuss what more could have been done in this situation and how we

:10:27.:10:31.

can strengthen the regulation in future to protect victims? I was not

:10:32.:10:35.

aware of the case the honourable lady rightly raises. I remember my

:10:36.:10:41.

time working in the TV industry when there are times when these decisions

:10:42.:10:45.

are made that can cause a huge amount of hurt and upset to

:10:46.:10:48.

families. I will discuss this case to the culture Secretary and bring

:10:49.:10:52.

it to his attention and see if there is anything else that can be done.

:10:53.:11:00.

it to his attention and see if there Yesterday the local lord prior... I

:11:01.:11:13.

am happy to look at this issue closely. It is necessary to

:11:14.:11:19.

differentiate between smoking and e-cigarette because they have very

:11:20.:11:24.

different health effects. That is what is being achieved, but I will

:11:25.:11:28.

look carefully into this. Mr Tim Farron. Order! Order! However

:11:29.:11:41.

irritating the honourable gentleman... May be to government

:11:42.:11:54.

backbenchers, he has a right to be heard and he will be heard. Mr Tim

:11:55.:12:02.

Farron. I am grateful to you Mr Speaker. I heard the Prime Minister

:12:03.:12:11.

on two occasions this afternoon congratulate the new Mayor of

:12:12.:12:14.

London, Sadiq Khan, and I would like to repeat that myself. He did not

:12:15.:12:21.

apologise for the disgraceful racist campaign the Party chose to run in

:12:22.:12:28.

that campaign. Will he apologise for deliberately dividing communities in

:12:29.:12:33.

order to win cheap votes? It is a great way to end the session,

:12:34.:12:38.

getting a lesson in clean campaigning from the Liberal

:12:39.:12:38.

Democrats! That was probably the longest PMQs,

:12:39.:13:06.

apart from last week, which was also long. On current trends, PMQs will

:13:07.:13:13.

go one to 1pm. And by my cultivation, till mid October. We

:13:14.:13:16.

may need an extension on the Daily Politics to take us through to

:13:17.:13:21.

1:30pm. For the second week in a row, it was a strange PMQs. Last

:13:22.:13:25.

week was strange because the Prime Minister kept asking questions of

:13:26.:13:29.

the Leader of the Opposition. This week, it was strange because, much

:13:30.:13:34.

as we pride ourselves on new -- knowing the details of political

:13:35.:13:39.

discourse and issues, because we are anoraks to such thing, we frankly at

:13:40.:13:43.

the beginning had no idea what Jeremy Corbyn was talking about. It

:13:44.:13:47.

turns out, because we do our research, that it is a posted

:13:48.:13:52.

workers directive, issued by the European Commission will stop a

:13:53.:13:57.

posted worker is not a postal worker, that is different. A posted

:13:58.:14:05.

worker is defined by European law as an employee who is sent by his or

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her employer to carry out a service in another member state for a

:14:10.:14:13.

temporary period. What the directive is trying to do is to say, if these

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workers are posted from, say, to Poland -- from Poland to France by

:14:21.:14:25.

their employer to do a particular job, they should be paid the same

:14:26.:14:28.

money as they are the people they are working with in that particular

:14:29.:14:33.

factory or whatever. The interesting thing, which is why it is not

:14:34.:14:38.

entirely a matter for the British, is that the 11 EU member states have

:14:39.:14:42.

shown a yellow card to this proposal. Estonia, Hungary,

:14:43.:14:50.

Slovakia, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech parliament, Latvia, Lithuania

:14:51.:14:56.

and Romania have all put a yellow card. They don't like this. They are

:14:57.:15:01.

likely worried it would be nuts of these workers would not then be

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posted to these jobs. I know you are sitting on the edge of your chair on

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this. There are almost 2 million posted workers in the EU,

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representing 0.7% of EU employment and almost 40 -- 50%, 44% to be

:15:18.:15:25.

exact, are in the construction business. There you go. Ask me

:15:26.:15:29.

anything you want to know about posted workers. I think you have

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told us. What did have your say? The viewers agree with you - they

:15:35.:15:39.

weren't quite up to scratch on what Martin from Stockport calls that

:15:40.:15:47.

posting workers directive stop. -- workers directive. Why can't he ask

:15:48.:15:51.

about things we understand and care about? Michael in Lincolnshire says,

:15:52.:15:57.

he has to stop focusing on menu sure when asking questions and learn to

:15:58.:16:01.

use sound bites. Until he does, David Cameron will run rings random

:16:02.:16:13.

stop. -- run rings round him. A huge mandate the labour, says one viewer,

:16:14.:16:19.

the greatest city on the planet and doesn't it deserve a mention?

:16:20.:16:24.

Another viewer says, dancing round menu sure on the EU. Someone else

:16:25.:16:32.

commented on the name of the Arctic survey ship. Lots of tweets

:16:33.:16:37.

congratulating Angus Robertson for asking questions about Tory election

:16:38.:16:42.

fraud. Well, it was an obscure issue to go

:16:43.:16:46.

on, but it is not often that I can see I am a net receiver of

:16:47.:16:50.

information on this issue, thanks to Mr Corbyn, because I now know more

:16:51.:16:54.

about posted workers directive is than I did before. That is helpful

:16:55.:16:58.

to me. In what way is it helpful to the Leader of the Opposition?

:16:59.:17:04.

Perhaps because this issue has been important to some of the unions,

:17:05.:17:08.

particularly the GMB, who had been a big whack of Jeremy Corbyn. If we

:17:09.:17:12.

think of the role that unions have played in his leadership, they have

:17:13.:17:16.

been campaigning for some time on this issue. The European countries

:17:17.:17:20.

are in the process of making a decision about moving forward on it,

:17:21.:17:26.

so it is a live issue or parts of the Labour Party and the unions.

:17:27.:17:30.

Some people might remember one of the controversies in this area in

:17:31.:17:35.

2009 was a big strike at an oil refinery where workers were brought

:17:36.:17:39.

in directly from Italy, and they were being paid less than the people

:17:40.:17:43.

who had been working there who were British. So, it is a niche issue,

:17:44.:17:48.

but important to some strands of the Labour Party and I think that is why

:17:49.:17:53.

he raised it. It is not really to do with free movement, it can only

:17:54.:17:57.

happen because of free movement. It doesn't cover the vast majority of

:17:58.:18:00.

workers crossing European boundaries in search of work. You have to be

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posted by your employer to a facility that that employer needs to

:18:06.:18:08.

provide labour to in another country. And you can see why the

:18:09.:18:14.

unions want to make sure that there is not what is referred to as social

:18:15.:18:20.

dumping, not a nice phrase, but you dump cheap labour into that area and

:18:21.:18:26.

undercut. I have no idea, in Britain, how widespread this is. I

:18:27.:18:32.

have to say, I am not sure either. We do know it is a matter of concern

:18:33.:18:38.

to parts of the union movement, and it is the kind of thing that Jeremy

:18:39.:18:41.

Corbyn cares about in the context of the EU referendum campaign. When we

:18:42.:18:45.

have heard him talking about standing up for a more social Europe

:18:46.:18:50.

that protects workers' rights and the strength we can get from being

:18:51.:18:54.

inside the EU, the kind of campaign he will run in the next six weeks or

:18:55.:18:58.

so, these are the kinds of issues that he may well be promoting in the

:18:59.:19:02.

campaign. The problem might be, how does that translate to most ordinary

:19:03.:19:15.

voters? I suspect that probably a good number of people were not

:19:16.:19:17.

familiar with what he was talking about. And he has 11 parliaments

:19:18.:19:22.

against it. If Kate Hoey were here, I'm sure she would say, if we left

:19:23.:19:26.

the EU, we could stop them coming in. Job done. It was a strange PMQs,

:19:27.:19:31.

not least because you had the Lib leader calling for an apology for

:19:32.:19:37.

the new Labour Mayor of London. You had the Conservative leader

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congratulating the new Labour leader of London, and the Labour leader

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saying happy birthday to David Attenborough. It was quite a strange

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session or run. We need a diagram. Hillary Benn, why did Jeremy Corbyn,

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instead of congratulating David Attenborough on his birthday, not

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congratulate Sadiq Attenborough on his birthday, not

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more votes personally than any Labour politician in history and now

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being the single biggest elected leader in Europe. Why did he not

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congratulate him leader in Europe. Why did he not

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like to apologise for what was said leader in Europe. Why did he not

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campaign? Mr Corbyn has already congratulated city can on his

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fantastic victory. I think the Prime Minister should have given Sadiq

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Khan an apology. to by the Leader of the Opposition.

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There are conservatives who have finally admitted to

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There are conservatives who have reservations they have. They have

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done themselves a huge amount of damage. That may well be true, but

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you are just widening the open goal for Mr Corbyn to kick

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you are just widening the open goal through. He should do so. Tim Farron

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didn't win London, your party did. People know that this was a grave

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error that has done the Conservative Party enormous damage with the

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ethnic minority community in London. They are going to rue the campaign

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they ran. That is not the question. I know you are good at

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filibustering, because I can see you are embarrassed. Why did your leader

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not stick it to the Prime Minister on this? Because he did so last

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week, Andrew. At PMQs? But he hadn't won. He did, he raised the issue and

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give him a hard time. John Hayes, I have a tough question for you. Is

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Government policy for or against the posted workers directive? I am a

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receiver of information and the net beneficiary from Mr Cobb and, as

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argued. So you don't know? The prime ministers said we understand the

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argument and approve of what the unions are saying, but I have come

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to this as fresh as you have. I quite often criticise politicians

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for not knowing the answer. In this case, I wouldn't dare. It would seem

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quite sensible that you can stop companies, say, based in Eastern

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Europe from sending over a tonne of workers to a facility in the UK,

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which is that that we would care about, and paying them half of what

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the British workers are getting there. That would seem only fair

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that if you're going to do that, they have to meet British standards.

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It is different from a sole plumber coming from Poland to work as a sole

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trader. It would seem fair that you would make sure that any employer in

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Poland or Latvia who does this would meet the standards here in the UK.

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Yes, that would seem fair. Let me say this - my dad was a shop

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steward, I am a member of the trade union. We make sure that we stand up

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for workers rights, it is a core part of my politics. A really good

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argument for staying in the European Union. They haven't got the director

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through. The directive is already in place. But it has been yellow

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carded. It was agreed by the legislative process of the European

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Union. There have been a number of court judgments, and this proposal

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has been made. The right to paid holidays comes because of the

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working Time directive. We're running of time. You can blame the

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speaker when you get back. I would not trust the Government with

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workers' rights in Britain if we vote to leave. When I say we have

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run out of time, we have. I want just to leave the next 15 minutes to

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Laura, who is going to go through the details of the posted workers

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directive. I think we can all consider ourselves net receivers of

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information after today. I can't resist saying, or was the person who

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said over the weekend who said that Labour had to stop missing own

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goals? Sadiq Khan. I didn't realise I was echoing him! Laura, good to

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see you. I will send you the link to the workers directive.

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It was a heated debate, so don't do it down.

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Now, it's the film the world has been waiting for.

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Forget the new X-Men, forget Captain America,

:25:09.:25:10.

today London's Leceister Square will play host to the world premiere

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In this film, I want to spell out our choice, do we want to live under

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a Europe-wide Government, a vast state machine which few of us

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understand and by people we don't know with the powers to impose laws

:25:29.:25:32.

we have debated and have little or no power to overturn? You cannot be

:25:33.:25:36.

a self-governing democratic nation and a member of the EU. That is

:25:37.:25:41.

impossible. We now seem to talk about going on holiday with a single

:25:42.:25:45.

currency as if that were the highest aspiration of mankind, but surely

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one of the Isner aspirations is to have the dignity of self-government.

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-- one of the highest aspirations. And the man behind the moving,

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director Martin Durkin, joins us now. Hello. Hello. The Premier is in

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Leicester Square. Celebrities will be attending, and you've got some

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massive names - Nigel for a rash, David Davies, Kate Hoey, a North Sea

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fishermen. You haven't invited Andrew. I

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thought he was coming. Will it be packed tonight? We have sold out,

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I'm told. I must say, I'm staggered. Nevertheless... What will it tell us

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that we don't know already? You asked me that last time. I'm so

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repetitive. It is all about how highly we value our freedom, and I

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think that people don't fully appreciate what the implications are

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of handing over the rights to determine our own laws and shape our

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own future. Last night I was thinking, why have I made this film?

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It was a pain to make it. It is the BBC. It was the BB 's -- if the BBC

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One the propaganda arm of the EU, I would not have had to go to the

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bother. Thanks for joining the Daily Politics! What bit of our

:27:19.:27:27.

coverage... Hold on, what bit of our coverage has been propaganda? You

:27:28.:27:34.

are worried about losing your charter, so you have scalawags on.

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You portray Eurosceptics as narrow-minded and cranks. In the

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film, you realise what it is about, and it is class struggle. It is

:27:46.:27:52.

ordinary taxpayers having a go at the tax concealing, publicly funded

:27:53.:27:56.

establishment. I don't associate Nigel Lawson, because I did look at

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the trailer, with the class struggle. It seems like a conspiracy

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movie from the 1970s - the EU is the source of all our ills, and that

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isn't the case. No, no. The BBC is. It is the political pass, of which

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you are apart, that once to... It would be like going to remedial

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camp. Good luck with the movie. Press that button, Hilary Benn, to

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find out which year it was. It was 1962, who has won?

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The one o'clock news is starting, part of our propaganda arm, is

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starting on the BC one. Joe and I will be back with more political

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propaganda tomorrow. And again on Friday and Sunday.

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Drinking small amounts of alcohol isn't without risk.

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Andrew Neil and Jo Coburn with live coverage of Prime Minister's Questions. They are joined by security minister John Hayes and shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn.

Includes the latest on the EU referendum campaigns, and an interview with new Sheffield MP Gill Furniss.

The Guess the Year competition closes at 12.30pm during the live broadcast of this programme.


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