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Theresa May leaves Downing Street for her first

what will be her approach to taking on Jeremy Corbyn?

We'll bring that live and uninterrupted.

travels to Berlin to meet the world's most powerful woman.

Brexit will surely dominate that conversation,

will it dominate Theresa May's Premiership too?

leaving Owen Smith to go head-to-head with Jeremy Corbyn

But is he Citizen Smith or oily Owen?

And Boris gets a lesson in diplomacy from the America's top diplomat.

We intend to make good things happen. Just stop there. It is

called diplomacy. LAUGHTER Yes, it is going well, John.

Characteristic start for Boris Johnson there are, in the world of

diplomacy. All that in the next hour a a half

and with us for the whole of the programme today

from Labour's Shadow Cabinet, Cat Smith, who is a close ally

of Jeremy Corbyn, and the newly appointed Housing Minister,

Gavin Barwell. So, in half an hour Theresa May

will come to despatch box for her very first

Prime Minister's Questions and we'll find out how she'll

handle Jeremy Corbyn. But a week into her premiership

what do we already know about the priorities

of a Theresa May government? In her first speech outside

Downing Street last week, Theresa May put a heavy emphasis

on social justice. She highlighted the lack

of opportunity for white working the difficulty for young people

trying to own their first home, and families that

"have a job" but "don't Yesterday at her first Cabinet

meeting, the new Prime Minister underlined that agenda,

saying her government will not be In her speech she stressed her

commitment to the Union, so she made it a priority to visit

the First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, and the first

Minister of Wales, Carwyn Jones She now turns her attention

to international leaders. US Secretary of State John Kerry

was in London yesterday. And within hours of taking

over at Number 10, Theresa May spoke to

President Hollande of France and Chancellor Merkel of Germany

on the phone, to prepare for the

formal negotiations, but after PMQs this afternoon

she will be off to Berlin for her first foreign trip to meet

Mrs Merkel face to face. Theresa May wants to put social

justice at the centre of her premiership, the sort of reform she

is talking about, widening university access, improving

homeownership, something you will be focusing upon, how will it be

funded? On housing front, in my area, the last conference of

spending review with double the budget, a couple of things we need

to do on the housing front, first build more homes in this country,

across parties there is a consensus that under governments of all kinds,

we have not been building of homes. Also make sure that as we heard

outside of number ten, young people getting onto the housing ladder.

More money spent. Big starter project under way, lots of work that

we want to progress. It is really important that if we can work hard,

ordinary decent jobs, then we get a chance to get them onto the housing

ladder. So you want the government to spend more money to create these

reforms. The government is in favour of that, spending was doubled. The

deficit was higher than forecast, by ?2 billion, and the IMF, among

others, are downgrading expectations for UK growth in light of the

referendum bud, fewer tax receipts and less money. -- referendum vote.

We have not seen data yet, the Chancellor of the Exchequer has

said, in terms of fiscal strategy, that we are not going to be aiming

to achieve a surplus in 2020 but as I said there is already resource,

there is things we can do to make others make a contribution, we have

consulted on the idea that when developers build out a development,

20% of homes they develop could be starter homes, they could be sold

only to first-time buyers, at a 20% reduction, it is not just about what

the government spends, we can look at what other people can do to

achieve that. You may need that. Interesting new raise the idea of

abandoning plans to reach a budget surplus, which George Osborne wanted

to do, it has been dumped by Theresa May, despite the downgrading by the

IMF, she wants to put growth at the front before deficit reduction, so

in your mind, the deficit must go up, and continue to go up, it has

gone up already, if more money must be spent, then the deficit will go

up, perhaps the short term, to pay for this. The government is still

committed to deficit reduction but the issue is about whether you go on

to achieve a surplus by 2020. We are in a much stronger position than

2010, the deficit has been reduced significantly. It has not been

eliminated. It is still ?74 billion. The government cannot spend loads

more money without funding it. If you cannot spend more money to fund

reforms and you do not want the deficit to come down... I blame, in

the spending review we had last year, George Osborne doubled the

housing budget, there is funding in the government plans already in that

area... Not just housing. Important thing to stress, when we set out the

fiscal strategy in the first place, we gave ourselves room to adjust the

strategy if there was a shock, the decision we took on the 23rd of June

is a big change to the economic policy. Taking advantage of the

flexibility. The Chancellor has made it clear, still an objective to

bring down the deficit is not what some other areas, keen to talk about

housing, that is your brief, teachers have been out on strike,

most of that has been on funding, spending per pupil is falling by 8%

over the parliament. That is according to the Institute for

Fiscal Studies. Should that cut be halted? As a government we will look

at the next budget, and all of the spending priorities, what I would

say to you, there is lots of things we can do to address those problems,

at the moment we are looking for national funding to come in. --

waiting for. Some parts of the country have had education funding

level that have been... Should London received less money in terms

of education because traditionally it has personal had more funding

than other parts of the country? It is not necessarily a London against

the rest of the country area, many of us in outer London would say that

we have been disadvantaged relative to in London, but what is right is

to have a fair national funding... You have not answered the question,

is it going to fall because the previous Conservative government

pledged commitment to education spending increasing, the below that

may have increased very slightly, but per-pupil funding is going to

fall, because of the increased number of pupils, is that something

that should be stopped? Long term, the government is going to have to

make decisions about spending priorities. Should education be one

of them? That is not the media decide, what is vital is that we

look at the overall priorities we have in government and we cannot, we

are not in a position where we can afford to increase the deficit, the

commitment to continuing to bring down the deficit is there a. That

will probably continue, as it stands, more pupils, per-pupil

spending will fall? The government will always keep the different

spending budgets under review, that is for the new cabinet to decide, I

cannot answer that question. You will have some input. We are not in

a position where we can begin spending money that is not funded,

we must continue to bring down the deficit. Health, the Chief Executive

of NHS England, Simon Stevens, yesterday said that some GP

practices and hospital facilities are overcrowded and clapped-out

buildings, in need of a makeover, capital investment is needed, should

he get it? That is not a decision that -- that is not a decision I can

take. Education or health? Health has been a major priorities in 2010.

There has been a significant increase. There is still overcrowded

and clapped-out buildings in need of a makeover, NHS hospitals in England

are operating on a 2.45 billion deficit, some might say that you

have not been focusing. There is a waste going to be people saying that

there is more that can be done. Billion deficit, that is a very big

deficit. There has been a very significant real terms injection of

money into the NHS. -- two .45 billions pounds deficit. What can be

achieved for efficiency, and George Osborne put in more than the figure

that he was asking for. That clearly, undeniably, has been a very

significant priority for the government. -- 2.45 billion.

Obviously there is still a black hole, according to the man who

should know, Simon Stephens, he also wants assurances about NHS staff

from other EU countries, in the Grexit world we are now living.

Should they get those assurances about whether they will be able to

stay? The government has made it clear that we fully spec EU citizens

in this country to enjoy... You expect but cannot guarantee? I think

we have got to think about both situations, people in this country,

have been here, making a big contribution to public services and

the economy and the communities. -- fully expect. We also have British

citizens in other EU countries, one of the key thing is that the Prime

Minister and the government as a whole need to achieve as part of the

negotiation getting under way is secure both of those people's

rights. Do you accept the "Brexit" result, and the world that we are

operating in? It is important to accept the result of the referendum

and I think as a country, we need to make sure that we negotiate an exit

that is the exit that the British people want. And what was that? I

don't think the British people voted to stop universities working across

Europe, and research project, and I don't think the vote was a rejection

of the single market, I think that the referendum was absolutely fought

on issues around immigration, that is the conversation we should be

having. What do you think should happen to levels of migration? I

think the concern that I certainly heard from my constituency voted out

was a lot to do with job security, something that Theresa May has said.

What about levels of migration, the numbers, that is what a lot of

people want to know. The levels of migration itself was not something I

had raised with me. What you they should be? We need to make sure that

we have a level of migration that means we can run public services, we

need to accept that the NHS needs to have EU workers, EU nurses, working

in hospitals, doctors, we need the best and brightest from around the

world. Hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands? I'm not going to put a

number on that, that is something that as a country we need to look at

with the facts. We need to speak with Simon Segars, around how

many... You accept the Brexit vote was about immigration. Yes, it was

about levels of immigration. -- Simon Stephens. Shouldn't the Labour

Party have a number in terms of immigration, if that is what people

were voting upon? The number itself is not important, people need to

know that their jobs are secure and wages will not be undercut but we

have levels of migration which means that we can deliver the world-class

NHS that we all know and love. Perhaps you do not want to give a

figure because it is difficult to keep to the figure, as we have

experienced under a Conservative government, tens of thousands, when

Theresa May was Home Secretary was not achieved by any margin. While

you are within the EU single market with freedom of movement and given

that our economy has been performing, latest job figures out,

another fall in the people out of work, while you are in the single

market and the economy is doing very well and the Eurozone less well,

clearly it has not been possible to achieve the commitment. Why are you

continuing tens of thousands as a target? As a country we have taken

the decision to leave the EU, we will not be able to do it

immediately, we will not be leaving... What is the level of

non-EU migration as it stand? There is further action... It is 150,000.

It is not just that, there are concerns about infrastructure,

keeping up with population growth, there are concerns about integration

into societies, a range of issues around immigration, not just

numbers, you cannot say that numbers are not a part of it. Ayew clear

that the government must stick to the number of tens of thousands?

Boris Johnson and Amber Rudd are refusing to state or restate that

commitment. Yes, we made a promise, we must be honest, while we are

still in the EU, we will not be able to achieve that given free movement,

but the longer term objective should be to achieve that. Boris Johnson

said that we should not have a target at all because it will result

in disappointing people. I stood on a manifesto, the policy of the

government, we should be looking to achieve that. Should ministers in

the government be restating what the policy is? And the ten has made it

clear that we are committed to the target. They should make it clear,

as Foreign Secretary and Home Secretary. We should be clear, about

the government objective. -- as Foreign Secretary and Home

Secretary. She wanted to land the top

job in Labour politics but in the end the Eagle

didn't even take off. Last night Angela Eagle pulled out

of the Labour leadership contest, leaving the way clear

for her colleague Owen Smith to go head to head with

Jeremy Corbyn. This morning Owen Smith's

been touring the TV studios I've grown up in the Labour

movement, I understand what we're We want a more equal, socially just,

economically fair society. We want everybody to have

opportunities. But we've got to have

concrete ideas to do that. What we need to be great at

is solutions. You know, yes, we're anti-austerity,

but what does that mean? It means we've got to be

pro-prosperity for everybody, It means we need to invest

in this country, so I'm saying let's

have a British new deal. We're joined now

by the Labour MP Chris Bryant, who is an Owen Smith supporter,

and Cat Smith is still here. Owen Smith is not going to win, is

he? Already we have seen polling that suggest Jeremy Corbyn is 56% to

Owen's 36, is it? Only 30% of Labour members said they had even heard of

Owen Smith, he has got a mountain to climb. You have already decided who

is going to win, and I don't think it's like that. The numbers indicate

that. Opinion polls, before it was known who the candidate was going to

be, probably not a very good guide to what the eventual result will be.

In my constituency party, we had a meeting ten days ago, there were new

members of the Labour Party who joined a year ago, I had never met

them before, I have spoken to them on a fun, but many of them are

saying, I joined the party to support Jeremy Corbyn but it is not

working, we are not a credible opposition with Jeremy as leader,

and I think he should go. So I think the Labour Party is changing very

rapidly, and I think people will want to take a long, hard look at

where the party is, and in the end it is either continuity Corbyn, with

all the problems of the last ten months, not able to mount a proper

opposition, or press the recent button with a new leader. That is an

important point, the idea that it is not a credible opposition is

something Jeremy Corbyn was passionate about, he criticised the

Neil Kinnock for not being credible, John Smith for not being credible

opposition, so when the accusation comes from 172 of his own MPs, he is

in trouble. There is no denying that the Labour Party is not punching as

it should be against the Government right now, we are not doing our job,

holding the Government to account. I would agree with you on that, but it

really does need the Labour Party in Westminster to come together to make

that happen, and what we have seen... The specific allegation is

that it is Jeremy Corbyn who was not the effective opposition. Politics

is never about one person, it is about policies and ideas and the

collective, and that is a very important part of the Labour

movement. Me and Chris both have so much that we agree on, and if we

work together, we are more powerful. Sorry, I did not want to talk over

you, but what is absolutely right is that we need to be a team, but you

need to have a leader who is building a team, and I desperately

wanted to make it work with Jeremy when you asked me to be in his

Shadow Cabinet, but I sat in meeting after meeting and said, in meeting

after meeting we have to put a much more convincing case on Europe in

the referendum, and a speech after speech that Jeremy Naylor undermined

the campaign. He is not able to deliver that opposition, and he

never crafts a team. Isn't the fact that he helped not been able to

build it yet and will not be able to build it now? I would disagree, I

think the strength of the Labour Party is with our members, and over

250,000 of them did vote for Jeremy Corbyn, and some of those will have

changed their mind, as Chris pointed out earlier, but many more people

have come into the party because they feel inspired by the idea is

that he has put forward, and we have changed the party and his

leadership, and we are now an anti-austerity party, and I believe

that we connect much more easily with our electors and on the

doorstep those conversations are a whole lot easier. But the idea that

he is inspiring, whips in your party nominated Owen Smith, people on the

front bench nominated Owen Smith. They clearly do not think, and I

have heard this from one of your colleagues, referring to Owen Smith

as Blair likes - so anyone who does not agree with Jeremy is a Blairite?

I find that term really an helpful, Blairite. He has left front line

politics for all the time I have been active. I joined the party

under Blair, but he left shortly afterwards. No cause there! But I

think we need to move on as a party and drop that term, Blairite. Chris,

supporters are trying to move on from something they think does not

work. We are all trying to move on from that, and we are in a different

space than we were back in 2006, when Blair left. I don't think

Jeremy can do it, that is the difference between us. I accept that

we have to press the reset button, we cannot be the party we were 15

years ago, because the world has moved on. There are massive issues

we need to take on now, following the Brexit vote and so on, and we

have got to listen hard to what voters said during that campaign, in

the forgotten part of this country, what feels like the left side parts

of this country, which includes my own constituency in the Rhondda. I

think Owen is ideally suited to do that job, but what he can do which

Jeremy cannot is unite the party. What unifies both of you is that you

are in a real Catch-22. Jeremy Corbyn cannot control the Labour

Party as it is at the moment in Parliament, he has a real problem

with that, and you cannot necessarily find a candidate who can

defeat that overwhelming majority of members who wanted Jeremy Corbyn.

You are both stuck in a party that is in crisis. I'm not sure that is

right, because I think Owen can and will win this election. Lots of

people do not yet know him, lots of Labour members, but what they have

seen of him they like. I think they will be convinced, that we need to

move on, that we can take the fight to this chap... Who was Bobby

sitting here enjoy all of this! It is not good for the country not to

have an effective opposition. There are so few people left on the Labour

front bench that they cannot form an effective opposition. It is

important that we are a Parliamentary democracy, it is not

just about the leader, it is about being able to create a whole team.

Owen can build a whole team which is an alternative government in

waiting. I want to get Cat in on this, he has threatened, if he does

not win, I know you don't want to accept that possibility, but the

Labour Party could split. He hasn't said that. Would it be his fault if

it did? No, I said to Jeremy in the conversations I had with him, you

are the only person who can break this logjam. But I think that Owen,

by taking the Labour Party and building a team of people that

includes people of diverse opinions, and I think Cat is right, there is

no point talking about Blairite and Brownite, although Sterns. It is

another millennium, frankly. -- all those terms. He said that split was

a dangerously real threat. It is not anything that I would want to see,

because it is a fact of life in our parliamentary system that if you

want to form a government, you have to be a broad coalition. Cat, he was

offered the post of president of the Labour Party by Owen Smith, why

wouldn't he take that? Jeremy has never wanted a grand title, that is

not why he ran to be leader of the Labour Party, he ran because he had

ideas to change lives. Some honorary position... Does he want the grand

title of Prime Minister, does he think he can get it? I don't think

he craves the personal glory of office, if you would - it is more

about being able to effect change, which is what the Labour Party is

about. I have been knocking on doors for the Labour Party under four

leaders, and whoever wins this election, and we do not know what

the outcome will be, I will serve the leader of the Labour Party,

because I am a Labour MP. You cannot change lives unless you are in

government, and I do not think Jeremy is capable of that. You

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It's coming up to midday here - just take a look at Big Ben -

and that can mean only one thing, yes, Prime Minister's Questions -

Theresa May's first Prime Minister's Questions -

and as it is her first, we thought we would remind you

of how her predecessors dealt with their first appearances

at the despatch box as Prime Minister.

When the new Prime Minister arrives to the fervent jeers of a

Conservative Party, just relieved to have the whole messy business of the

succession over... Sits down, please!

Now, wait a while. Will he accept that the populist taxi proposals on

fat cats would in fact be a tax that hits most those who have least? I

shall resist the temptation to say that was the sound bite since I

know... Since I have IP link are used to use a few of those myself at

one time! -- I have a feeling. I have been in this job for five

days... In our happy coalition, they will have the right to abstain on

it, and in terms of the grand, I do not have a specific answer for

her... It is a funny old thing, I will give accurate answers, rather

than make them up on the spot! And for his first PMQ's appearance

on the Daily Politics sofa as deputy political editor,

we're joined by John Pienaar. Welcome, what about the style of

Theresa May, what are you expecting? It will be very different from

anything we have seen and David Cameron's era. When it comes to the

joust across the floor, we are used to the rapier as the weapon of

choice, the flashing blade, quick one-liners. We will have to get used

to something quite different. Their weapon of choice, to torture this

analogy, is the mace and chain. Traditional weapon, then! She will

be looking to land a blow or two, Jeremy Corbyn has to joust a bit, it

is not just her first appearance, it is the last before the recess, and

you get that kind of jousting going on on this occasion. I am told she

has one two lines in a back pocket, which I am also told that she dreamt

up herself. You didn't have speech writers with her overnight? She has

her team, the chief of staff, a policy adviser was there, Alex

Dawson, and her Parliamentary aide, all around the table, drilling her

for questions, not playing roles, as we have seen in the past, but just

checking questions that she can bat away in the way that she does. But

she is not lightning fast, low like a butterfly, sting like a be dumb

act bee. I think she will be a swinging mace, so when Jeremy Corbyn

engages, she will swing, he will be lit. Difficult for Jeremy Corbyn

across the despatch box, because he always wanted a less combative

style, will it be harder to perform that kind of swimming tarmac

swinging mace at him when he is less fiery? Yeah, the first point is, it

is as interesting to watch the leaders and their relationship with

backbenchers as anything across the chamber. He is on the line, his

leadership and authority is on the line. Theresa May could not be more

secure. We will cover a number of pressing

international issues and tomorrow I shall visit Paris for some of the

discussions with Francois Hollande. , Warmly welcome the Prime Minister

to her place and can I also ask, given her unwavering commitment to

deliver economic stability and national security, in our United

Kingdom's interest, does she welcome Monday's emphatic vote in this house

for the Trident successor programme? Can I thank my honourable friend for

his kind remarks, and thank him for enthusiastic the welcoming the

debate in this house to renew the nuclear deterrent, showing that we

have not only committed to our own national security but also consider

the security of our European and Nato allies. We can now get on with

the essential job of renewing our nuclear deterrent, and can I thank

those on 140 Labour members of Parliament, who put the national

interest first. And who voted to renew the nuclear deterrent. Jeremy

Corbyn. Thank you, Mr Speaker, can I welcome the right honourable member

to her first PMQs, and congratulate her on her appointment and becoming

the country's second woman Prime Minister. I hope that she will agree

with me that this house and prime ministers Question Time should be an

opportunity to debate seriously the issues that face our country and our

place in the world. On the steps of Downing Street, she spoke very

eloquently about fighting burning injustice... Yet, her last act as

Home Secretary was to shut the Orgreave enquiry into the long

grass. -- shove. The IPCC told Home Office officials that if it

announced any action to set up an enquiry or any other investigation

to investigate Orgreave, it would impact the Hillsborough

investigation, that has been disputed, was Parliament misled?

Will the Prime Minister now proceed with a full public enquiry into the

terrible events at Orgreave? Can I thank the right honourable gentleman

for the welcome that he has given me, can I say to him, he refers to

me as the second woman Prime Minister, in my years here in my

house, I have long had the Labour Party asking what the Conservative

Party does for women... LAUGHTER SHOUTING

I welcome the comments he has made about prime ministers, we do make

serious issues, I look forward to the exchanges that he and I will

have and I hope that we will be having them over this dispatch box

for many years to come! CHEERING As regards the Orgreave enquiry, the

Shadow Home Secretary has an urgent question on that this afternoon,

which the Home Secretary will be responding to. Jeremy Corbyn. The

new Prime Minister also said on the steps of Downing Street,

" if you are young you will find it harder than ever before to own your

own home". In 1998, more than half of working households of people aged

16 to 34 were buying their own homes, now it is 25%, the resolution

foundation suggests this wilful to 10% in the next nine years. What

figure has the Prime Minister set herself for home ownership among

young people? I know the timeline that has been referred to, he may

have forgotten that during that period we had 13 years of a Labour

government. 13 years of a Labour government which had a very bad

record in terms of house-building. This is the government that is going

to change that, this government is going to put more into building more

homes, to ensure that young people do have a better opportunity to get

on the housing ladder. That is why we are a government that

will be governing for everybody in this country. CHEERING

That Labour government put a decent house standard in place in every

part of this country. -- home standard. I am not sure... SHOUTING

I am not sure, Mr Speaker, that starter homes

at ?450,000 for young people earning 7% less than their parents

generation is actually a very good prospect for people owning their own

homes. The Prime Minister is rightly concerned, Mr Speaker, she said

this, if you are black you are treated more harshly than if you are

white. Before appointing her new Foreign Secretary, did she discuss

with him his description of black people as you can in these and why

he questioned the motives of the US president, Barack Obama, on his part

Kenyan heritage? -- like people as piccaninnies. I have sat on these

benches and heard him raise that with the right honourable friend for

Whitney, when he was Prime Minister, on a number of occasions. Let nukes

blamed this, if you look at house prices across the country, they

vary, in Liverpool, the average house price is ?116,000, in London,

the average house price is just over ?676,000. That is why we have a

higher limit for the starter home figure in London, if he objects to

that, he needs to tell his constituents why he is against them

having opportunities to get on the housing market? He refers to the

remarks that I made, and it is correct, if you are black you will

be treated more harshly in the criminal justice system, it is

exactly why, as Home Secretary, I dealt with the issue of stop and

search, I was concerned to make sure that nobody should be stopped and

searched on the streets of this country because of the colour of

their skin. I did that as a conservative, 13 years of Labour did

nothing on it. Jeremy Corbyn. My question was about the language used

by the Foreign Secretary, earlier this week, the new Chancellor

abandoned the budget surplus target. As Labour has long called for. Her

government is already missing targets on debt, deficit, welfare

count and productivity. Six years of government austerity has failed. The

long-term economic plan is clearly dead. Is there a new one? It is the

long-term economic plan that has delivered the record level of

employment that we see... CHEERING Perhaps I could put the right

honourable gentleman straight, we have not abandoned the intention to

move to a surplus, what I have said is that we will not be targeting

that at the end of this Parliament. He uses the language of austerity...

Can I say this to him, he talks about austerity, I call it living

within our means. CHEERING He talks about austerity, in fact it

is about not saddling children and grandchildren with significant debts

to come. It is not about austerity, it is about ensuring we have an

economy that works for everyone. Jeremy Corbyn. Jobless claims have

risen for the fourth month in a row, welfare claims have risen as well.

Austerity actually means people being poorer, services being cut,

and local facilities being closed. In her speech on the steps of

Downing Street, she also addressed insecure workers, saying, you have a

job but you do not always have job security. SHOUTING

Does that mean, to those people that are worried about their future in

work... SHOUTING I am talking of the people that sent

us here to serve them. Does that mean that she is proposing to scrap

and lemon tribunal fees, band zero hours contracts, repeal the trade

union act, as more than a dozen European nations have already done,

that would help to give greater job security to many very worried people

in this country. Again I say to the right honourable gentleman, I did

say that on the streets of Downing Street, it is very important that

here in this house, we consider not only what might be called the more

of these injustices but consider the life for those people for whom they

are in work but struggling to make ends meet. It is essential, that is

one of the things that the government has done, it has raised

the threshold at which people start to pay income tax, for example. It

is also about making sure that we have more well-paid jobs in this

country. That is also what the government is doing. I'm interested

that he refers to the situation of some workers, who may have some job

insecurity, and potentially, unscrupulous bosses, I suspect that

there are many members on the opposition benches who may be

familiar with an unscrupulous boss... LAUGHTER

A boss who does not listen to his workers? SHOUTING

Requires some of his workers to double their workload... SHOUTING

LAUGHTER Maybe even a boss who exploits the

rules to further his own career. Remind him of anybody? SHOUTING

Mr Speaker, we are sent here to

represent people. And there are many people in this country struggling

with insecure jobs, with low wages, I know this is very funny for all

Conservative members, but I don't suppose, I do not suppose there is

too many Conservative MPs who have to go to a food bank in order to

supplement their family table every week! I think that we should reflect

upon those things. The Prime Minister highlighted the failures of

her predecessor, on social justice, homeownership, education and the

cost of living. Some might say that as a cabinet minister, she too was

responsible for that but she empathised with working people when

she said, " I know you are working around the clock, I know you are

doing your best, I know that sometimes life can be a struggle".

Yesterday the IFA has found that two thirds of children living in poverty

in Britain have at least one parent in work. -- IFS. What, other than

warm words, is she going to offer those families, those children, who

are hungry often and very insecure in their living? Isn't it our duty

to offer some hope and security to them? We are concerned about those

people but the answer is not unlimited uncapped welfare, as the

Labour Party say, the answer for people who are

in work and struggling in work and the answer for those that want to

get into work is to have a strong economy, an economy which delivers

jobs and well-paid jobs, and that is why I can assure the right

honourable gentleman that on this side of the house, we are focused

upon building a country which works for everyone, an economy which

ensures that everyone can benefit from the nation's 12, a society

where everyone gets the opportunities they deserve, and a

democracy that everyone can have faith in. And finally, I say to the

right honourable gentleman, the Labour Party may be about to spend

several months of fighting and tearing itself apart, the

Conservative Party will be spending those months ringing this country

back together. -- benefit from the nation's wealth.

SHOUTING There will be more.

I agree with the Prime Minister... SHOUTING

CHEERING LAUGHTER

We are leaving the EU and we are going to make a success of it, will

the Prime Minister make my Day special by saying that she is

prepared to reject staying in the single regulated market, and

offering instead to our friends in Europe a free-trade deal, very much

in their interests, let's take back control! I'm tempted to say that

after that... Aisha Praught be sit down and enjoy that for the rest of

the day... My honourable friend has made my day. -- I should probably

sit down and enjoy that the rest of the day. Happy birthday to him, I

should say that, and as we look at the result of the referendum, I am

very clear that Brexit means Brexit, we will make a success of it, what

we need to do in negotiating the deal is listen to what people have

said about the need for controlled on free movement but also negotiate

the right deal and the best deal of trade in goods and services for the

British people. Angus Roberts and. -- Angus Robertson.

The German vice Chancellor has already confirmed how Scotland is

able to remain in the European Union. Did the Prime Minister

discussed this when she met with First Minister Nicola Sturgeon

Wenzhou was in Edinburgh, and will she do everything to ensure that

remain means remain for Scotland? -- when she was in Edinburgh. Can I

thank the right honourable gentleman for his comments and the recognition

that he showed the support for my husband, and as he said then, we all

rely on support from those around cum to do our jobs, and we should

never forget that. I did discuss the arrangements for the UK leaving the

EU, and I was very pleased that my first trip was to Scotland and that

I was able to do it so early in my premiership, as I have been very

clear, the Union is very important to me. I was also clear with the

First Minister that I think there are some ideas being put forward

that are impractical but I am willing to listen to the options

that are brought forward, and we will be engaging fully with all the

devolved add ministrations. Germany has the highest level of support of

any continental European country for Scotland remaining in the European

Union, so would the Prime Minister thank Chancellor Merkel for the

interest of the members of her government and members of the

Bundestag, their interest in having Scotland remaining within the EU,

and will she assure the Chancellor and other heads of state and

government that we in Scotland will do everything, everything that is

necessary for us to remain in the EU? I have to say to the right

honourable gentleman, because this is a line that he has been taking

for some time. I do find it a little confusing, given that only two years

ago in the Scottish referendum the SNP was campaigning for Scotland to

leave the United Kingdom, which would have meant leaving the

European Union. Daniel Kawczynski. Thank you, Mr Speaker. We all stand

with the people of France, and particularly Nice, following the

appalling terrorist act there last week. We'll be primers to update the

House on how the security collaboration between our countries

can help prevent such attacks in the future, and reassure the French

people that although we are leaving the European Union, the close links

between our two countries will remain steadfast? My honourable

friend raises a very important topic, and as has been said in his

House before, our thoughts are with all the people of France and the

appalling attack that took place in Nice last week. We continue to work

with the French authorities, both obviously in the aftermath of that

attack, but my honourable friend is right that we need to continue our

security co-operation with France and indeed other European countries.

We will not be cowed by terrorists, we both faced the same threats, and

we need to work together in order to defeat those threats. And I can

absolutely confirm that, yes, the United Kingdom will leave the

European Union, but the United Kingdom is not leaving Europe, and

our co-operation will continue. Jamie Read. Can I welcome the Prime

Minister to her place and wish you well in healing the country in the

months and years to come? After all, it is she and her colleagues have so

bitterly divided it. And can I thank too... Can I thank her too, Mr

Speaker, for her wholehearted support and endorsement for official

Labour Party policy on Trident? It is such a refreshing change to hear

that from the despatch box! LAUGHTER

As a type one diabetic and as a father and uncle to children with

type 1 diabetes, and we have 500,000 people, 30,000 of them children in

this country, can I thank the Prime Minister for the example she has

shown to those people in demonstrating that this not hold us

in anyway whatsoever? There is no doubt whatsoever, Mr Speaker, that

the Prime Minister's predecessor found the NHS, left it in a much

worse condition than he. Will the Prime Minister visits... Will the

Prime Minister visit my constituency, to honour the promises

made by the previous Prime Minister, and to stop the government cutting

services there? Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can I say, the honourable

gentleman makes a reference to divisions on the Conservative Party

benches, no, which is the party that took three weeks to decide which

should be that unity candidate? It was the Labour Party! Can I thank

him for his remarks and type 1 diabetes as well. There are many

youngsters from tiny tots to teenagers leaving with type 1

diabetes, and it is important that we give the message to them that

their future is not limited, they can do whatever they want. And he

invites me, he is the first person in Prime Minister's Questions to

invite me to visit his constituency, and I will look very closely at all

invitations that I received in Prime Minister's Questions. I think it is

important that decisions about local NHS services are taken at a local

level, but I would remind him, as he made the point about the agreement

between Conservative Party and Labour Party official policy on

Trident, that where we did disagree at the election was it was the

Conservative Party that agreed that we would put the money that was

necessary into the NHS, the Labour Party refused to commit that. Thank

you, Mr Speaker. Extremism takes many forms, from the atrocity in

Nice to the violent murder by her own brother in Pakistan, justified

as an honour killing. -- Qandeel Baloch. There were many examples of

this in the UK over the last five years. Does the Prime Minister agree

that such crimes are acts of terror, not honour, and which he directed

that a new governor shows a lead for ending the use of the word honour to

describe this vile act in order to stop any legitimacy to the idea that

women are the property of men? -- and would she direct that her new

government. This is an issue that resonate across this whole House,

and she is absolutely right that extremism takes many forms, and in

the counter-ruck stream is policy we are looking very widely across the

breadth of extremism. -- counter extremism policy. We are looking at

tackling the root causes of so-called honour based violence, and

I absolutely agree that there is absolutely no honour in so-called

honour based violence, it is a criminal act, pure and simple. Thank

you, vista is bigger. I too would like to welcome the Prime Minister

to her first Prime Minister's Question Time. -- Mr Speaker. I

would like to ask you to listen to the head teachers of primary schools

in my constituency. They tell me the weeds and unprecedented changes in

primary education, including new sites, have lead to negative impact

on the learning outcomes of children. -- the recent

unprecedented changes. Will she urged the new Secretary of State to

take these concerns forward? I thank the honourable lady for her welcome

to me, and I think education right is absolutely crucial if we are

going to ensure that people can take up the opportunities they deserve

also have the aspiration to take up those opportunities. The new

Education Secretary will be looking across the at the education

provision that is in place, we have made important changes already over

the last six years that are improving the quality of education.

More children are getting the quality of education they need, but

there is more for us to do, and we will be looking at that. In my

constituency, Aerospace is vital importance, Rolls-Royce and boring

over 1000 people at their site, but it is just important there what do

the whole UK economy. Will the Prime Minister congratulate all the

companies that attended the Farnborough airshow, on the deals

they signed, and will she agree that with nearly ?100 billion of trade

deals done this year, Britain is very much open for business? My

honourable friend is absolutely right that Britain is open for

business, and I know what an important role the aerospace

industry plays in his constituency, but also in other constituencies

across the country, and the importance of the Farnborough

airshow, and the member for Aldershot was telling me what a

great airshow it was. The Government committed there to generate a fund

for research to ensure we retain our leading position in this sector, and

as he said, there are a significant number of trade deals signed, and I

would encourage other companies to go out and get that business. I wish

to welcome the right honourable lady to her place. Newcastle Airport was

voted best in Britain this week, but the good news that we are waiting

for is a decision on Heathrow expansion. The Prime Minister knows

that Britain needs to be open for business, so will she do better than

dithering gave and give us a decision without delay? -- dithering

Dave. I have some fond memories of Newcastle Airport from the time when

I stood in the North West Durham constituency some years ago and made

quite good use of Newcastle Airport, it has changed and expanded rather

ever since. On Heathrow, the position has not changed. Obviously,

the review work has been done, further work has been done in

relation to the question of air quality around the various proposals

that were put forward, and the Cabinet and the Government will be

taking a decision in due course. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Based on

analysis of a crime survey for England and Wales by the Children's

Society, an estimated 113 16 and 17-year-old girls in my constituency

have experienced a sexual offence in the last year. Given the progress

made in tackling child sexual exploitation in the last few years,

could my right honourable friend outline if government has plans to

strengthen the protection for this particular vulnerable age group? My

honourable friend raises a very important issue, we saw, obviously,

in recent times the appalling circumstances in Rotherham in

relation to child sexual exploitation, but as my honourable

friend Guy Shone, in every constituency in the country there

are young people being submitted to sexual offences. -- has shown. The

Government has been working with all appropriate agencies to ensure we

put greater support in place to provide an extra 7 million in

funding to ensure victims of sexual abuse receive the right support,

launched the whistle-blowing helpline to help authorities spot

patterns of behaviour, and patterns of failure, and made child sexual

abuse and expedition a national thread so police forces have a duty

to collaborate to tackle this terrible crime. We will be

strengthening our ravens in the coming months, we are all appalled

by child sexual abuse, and we need to make sure we eradicate it. In her

first statement on the steps of Downing Street, the Prime Minister

stated that she would lead a government that would work for

everyone of us. Since she became Prime Minister, I have tried

unsuccessfully to get assurances on the continuation of the Northern

schools strategy, along with the 80 million that was set aside for the

Northern schools. Will she therefore give me that commitment today so

that children in Bradford and the North can have the same chances as

those in London and the South? Well, it is important that we ensure that

across the country children are getting the opportunities that they

deserve, and the quality of the education they receive is an

important part of that, and the review that has taken place, which

was launched in March, is making recommendations on the issue. What I

can assure the honourable gentleman is that my right honourable friend

the Education Secretary will be looking very carefully at the result

of that review and will make the position in which the Government is

going to take in response to those recommendations clear in due course.

Stuart Andrew. Mr Speaker, crowing up on a council estate, it was tough

coming out as a Conservative. -- growing up.

LAUGHTER Difficult as it was, I understood

then, as I do now, that only a Conservative government delivers

real social mobility. Does my right honourable friend

agree with me that if it is the job of this government to fight for such

opportunities for the people of Britain, because the party opposite

are too busy fighting each other? Well, my honourable friend puts it

very well, and if you look at the Conservative benchers, as he says,

we have Members of Parliament who were brought up in council houses,

Conservative Members of Parliament brought up by single-parent

families. The chairman of the Conservative Party is a former

miner. It is this party that is looking at opportunity for all, and

that certainly, I am very clear that the Government I lead will be driven

not by the interests of the privileged few but by the interests

of everyone in this country, not entrenching the advantages of a

privileged few in terms of opportunity, but extending

opportunity to all. Steward led Donaldson. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

Whatever your politics, one cannot help but be inspired by the image

last week of the female Prime Minister of UK meeting the female

First Minister of Scotland, a message to girls everywhere that

they can achieve anything they want. Does the Prime Minister agree that

to do this girls and women should be able to live free from gender race

violence and domestic abuse, and will she commit to supporting the

bill of my honourable friend for Banff and Buchan and ratify the

Istanbul convention? Can I say to the honourable gentleman that I

think it is an important symbol for girls and young women to see women

in positions as Prime Minister and First Minister, and I respect the

First Minister of Scotland, we had a very constructive first meeting. We

will disagree on some issues, but we will work practically and

pragmatically together. I think it is important to deal with the issues

of gender violence and domestic violence against women and girls.

That is why the add has a strategy that is being taken on by my right

honourable friend the Home Secretary now. -- why the Government has. We

have a good record for putting in place domestic violence protection

orders, but there is always more to do, and we will be doing that.

Can I welcome one right honourable friend to her place, if it is not

too untoward to say, I declare it as game, set and match to her this

afternoon. Can I tell my right... Can I tell my right honourable

friend that last week, when I met local NFU representatives in North

Dorset, they understood what we were doing in delivering Brexit, but they

were keen to ensure that the needs of agriculture and British farmers

are front and centre in those discussions and that their interests

are considered. Can I invite my honourable friend to make that

commitment today? I'm very happy to make that commitment, as we look at

the position I will be taking in negotiations to leaving for the UK

leaving the European Union, we will be consulting widely, agriculture is

a sector which is particularly affected by Brexit, and I can assure

my honourable friend that we will be consulting with and listening to the

views of farmers and others involved in the food industry and

agricultural sector. Can I congratulate the right honourable

lady on becoming Prime Minister. I gently remind her of the

conversation we had a few weeks ago, when I said she would come through

the middle and trounce the men standing for that position. So I was

right! LAUGHTER I also said I was going to put some

money on her, unfortunately I never got around to it, because the odds

were very good at the time. Can I ask the Prime Minister is very

serious question about the younger generation, millennials, so many of

them in this country believe they are citizens of Europe, they had the

ability to travel, to work, and to be true Europeans, will she soon

give them her vision of how that reality, as European citizens, can

be delivered even in the present circumstance? I think the honourable

gentleman, I do indeed remember the conversation where he said I would

trounce the men, as he said it, the Conservative Party came up with an

all woman short list, without being quiet to do so, if I may say...

LAUGHTER He raises an important point about

the younger generation, what I would say is this, as I said in response

to my noble friend, the member for Shrewsbury Town Acton, we are

leaving the European Union but not leaving Europe, we will be setting

out the negotiating position in terms of our relationship to the

European Union, over the coming weeks and months, I would also say

this to the young people that he talks about, actually, we should not

be limiting their opportunities and their horizons by just looking at

Europe. This country will be making a success of Brexit because we will

be out there in the world, as an outward looking, expansive country

with opportunities around the globe. Philip Davies. I warmly welcome the

Prime Minister to her post, unlike dithering Barry, opposite, I did

place a bet on her becoming the next leader. I apologise to the Minister

for clearly having my phone off when she was calling me to be a part of

the front bench of government(!) LAUGHTER

Reason why the people of Yorkshire voted overwhelmingly to leave, was

due to control in immigration, and the Prime Minister reassure the

people of Yorkshire that when we finally do leave the European Union,

she will insist upon keeping her original promise to get the

immigration figures down into this country into the tens of thousands.

I say to my honourable friend, I am very clear that the vote that was

taken in this country on the 23rd of June sent a very clear message about

immigration, that people want control of free movement from the

European Union, and that is precisely what we will be doing and

ensuring that we get that in the negotiations that we will be

undertaking. I also remain absolutely firm in my belief that we

need to bring net migration down to sustainable levels, the government

believes that is tens of thousands... It will take some time

to get there, but of course, now, we have the added aspect of those

controls that we can bring in relation to people moving from the

European Union. Finally, Mr Tim Fallon. Thanks. You all very kind. I

would like to warmly welcome the promise to her position, she has

come a long way since we were on the hustings together in North West

Durham, she will reflect that she is possessing greater support in this

chamber than either of us got in Consett working men 's club. -- --

Tim Farron. Today there are reports that the new Grexit law meat unit

will be hiring lawyers at the cost of ?5,000 per head per day, will the

Prime Minister be using the mythical ?350 million to pay the legal fees,

or is that still pencilled in for the NHS, as promised by cabinet

colleagues who campaign for leave? It is absolute right that we create

a new department to focus upon the work of negotiating the United

Kingdom leaving the European Union and that department will need to

have the expertise necessary to undertake those negotiations, I say

to the right honourable gentleman, I am very happy to remember the days

that he and I spent campaigning in that parliament in the general

election, little did the voters of North West Durham know that the two

candidates, unsuccessful candidates, in that election, would become

leaders of two of this country's political parties, although as I

would point out to the right honourable gentleman, my party is a

little bit bigger than his is... CHEERING

LAUGHTER Order.

That marked the end of Theresa May's first prime ministers questions,

strong performance, fairly strong performance, we will hear what you

thought in a moment, recapping on some of the substance, she started

off saying that unemployment has come down, wages have gone up, and

welcomed the vote on Trident renewal, while thanking the 140

Labour MPs for backing the government on this, making it

uncomfortable for Jeremy Corbyn. He actually then sort of forensically

dissected Theresa May's speech which she made on the steps of Downing

Street, trying to get her to match the rhetoric on issues like social

justice with action. Also raised calls for the Orgreave enquiry,

which was into policing, handling the miners strike in 1984, we will

have a bit on that later on. Talk about homeownership, if you are

black you are more likely to be treated more harshly than if you are

white, something that she said in the criminal justice system, Jeremy

Corbyn wanted her to say exactly what she meant, also raised the

language used by Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary, then the

long-term economic plan, about helping people who are less

fortunate, said that welfare claims are up, jobless figures in terms of

claims are also up, and then social justice in general. She came back

and unusually answered quite a few of the questions and there was a few

jokes trust in their about the fact she is the second female Prime

Minister, roof of the pudding, that the Tory party does do something for

women, and also on scribblers leadership, pointing at Jeremy

Corbyn. Interestingly, in the whole section by Jeremy Corbyn, nothing

about Brexit or Europe, that game in the questions afterwards, the form

of Angus Robertson, from the SNP, saying that remain means remain.

And. She again said she was listening to the devolved

parliaments. She would not say anything more firmly. But at the

very end she talked about migration and net migration figures and she

very clearly restated her commitment to reducing net migration to tens of

thousands. Boris Johnson and Amber Rudd failed to do that, but she said

that she was very clear that the vote taken on the 23rd of June was

that people want the government is to take control of immigration and

she was going to do that, but she admitted that it will take some time

to get there. She made a little joke at the spends of Tim Farron, when

they stood for a seat that neither of them one, that they are both now

leaders of individual parties but that hers was a bit bigger(!) than

his. She can be a bit ruthless. Other words to describe her being

used by you out there, " commanding, confident, self assured..."

Self-assurance, that was the keyword. A big response,

interesting, the tone of PMQs changes with the change of

characters, a lot of people have been watching, thank you for your

response. Victories on form, Jeremy still raising questions from

history, minus strike and homeownership in the 1990s. As an

change and a very powerful change, says Tim. Bill Claridge,

barnstorming first B 's performance from PM. Patterson, with

the PM wipe the floor with Jeremy what a response on Twitter to that.

A few against. -- Phil Claridge. John Baker, picked up on something

that you picked mentioned, she looked nervous and try to be too

clever, I'm particularly pleased that Jeremy Corbyn threw back those

words at her that she said on the steps of Downing Street, I think

that he came out on top. -- PMQs. Thatcher Mark two, she is back. Seen

it all before. And one thing, the award unexpected pun, I don't think

they're meant to, how refreshing, answers to all questions in calm

atmosphere, from Kent Norman, long may it continue. Makes a change from

you doing that! -- Ken Norman. It was fluent, confident, it is easy to

make comparisons between Theresa May and Margaret Thatcher, but a couple

of notes echoed, of Margaret Thatcher, much more fluent than

Margaret Thatcher was, at the beginning of her premiership,

watching those days from the gallery, I was a six-year-old little

girl correspondent, she was very confident. You can see some of the

gags coming half a mile away, this is the House of Commons, not have I

got news for you, which you know very well! I think I prefer PMQs,

myself. Jeremy Corbyn did well under the circumstances, a strong and

sustained attack on one or two lines, especially considering the

benches behind him sat in that now familiar uncomfortable silence, as

if they were watching an embarrassing relative at a party, it

feels like that, somebody with every right to be there, they just wish he

would go away. Gave a reasonable performance on his own terms,

Theresa May more than held her end up. Interestingly on that dynamic,

Jeremy Corbyn, more experienced, has been there longer, even as Leader of

the Opposition, may feel more comfortable at the dispatch box,

what about the comparisons, that will inevitably be made, between

Theresa May and Margaret Thatcher? May have been more confident at the

beginning, but those comparisons will be made, and she was quite

aggressive. One or two stylistics marriages, the mine is bigger than

yours gagged at the end of the session, that may have come out of

the Margaret Thatcher playbook, one or two lines, the way that they were

delivered. -- mine is bigger than yours gag. It is easy to make the

comparison but the comparisons were there to be made, she started off

hitting the ground running, in this Question Time, she is flying any

minute now to see the German leader, then the French leader after that.

She has started, in her own way, Margaret Thatcher did as well, with

a very big in tray. The first question that Jeremy Corbyn put to

Theresa May, Orgreave Inquirer, she gave an indication that something

might be happening. Sounded like more than that, watch this space,

saying that the new Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, would have something to

sale it on, you do not often hear a promise to saying that unless

something of substance is going to happen, she was referring to the

Battle of Orgreave, literally a battle in many ways between the

South Yorkshire Police and striking miners at the Orgreave colliery in

1984, accusations of evidence being rigged up, of mine is being framed

and all the rest of it, and the call for the enquiry took on new momentum

after the Hillsborough enquiry. -- miners. We are now looking at what

Amber Rudd has got to say. What about the issue of Europe, there is

every sign that her premiership is going to be defined by the Brexit

vote, however much she wants to talk about social justice, that is how it

will be defined initially. Angus Robertson has made the claim, he is

going to continue on this, remain means remain for Scotland, what does

it mean in practice? The early stages of the game, it can really

only have one outcome, the Scottish national party, after in gauging

with the Westminster government and the Prime Minister, we have heard

promises to engage constructively with the government in Edinburgh,

there will go their separate ways, because of course they will, this

means Scotland being able to continue a relationship with the

European Union, for Westminster and the rest of the UK, they are a

component part and will go the way of the rest of us until the break

finally comes. That was her first visit, she fears

that is the big threat. One of the first thing she said outside Downing

Street, she talked about how precious the Union is, and the union

of all our citizens, the social justice agenda. That performance

showed me that we have picked the right person. There was a great deal

of detailed knowledge, if you take the question on housing, on starter

homes, she had all the detail, why the limits were as they were. Direct

answers two questions, a very sure that performance, and a clear

political contrast that you are trying to draw between the Labour

Party, fighting amongst themselves, and getting on with government.

There is trouble, obviously, down the road, because he congratulated

Herbert said that Brexit means Brexit and already wanted a

commitment that it would mean not joining the single market. --

congratulated her but said. We are trying to have a strong trading

relationship with the EU 27 countries, that is in all of our

interests, and cooperate on the problems we face in terms of the

migration crisis and terrorism. And what about free -- freedom of

movement? Well, what was very clear is that she was keen to stress that

although we are leaving the EU, there is still a positive global

vision of Britain, and our relationship, she is going to

Germany and lacrosse after that, our relationships with these countries

are varied important and will be in the future. -- Germany and France.

How is she going to achieve it? In terms of migration, the number of

people coming from outside the EU stands at 188,000, how long will it

take to get there? 20 years? I do not think she is thinking over that

time scale at all, there is an opportunity to make changes in terms

of European migration at the end of this period, and we can take further

measures in relation to non-EU migration. What measures will bring

down that figure to tens of thousands? You asking me to take

decisions... You believe this is a credible line that has not been

achieved by the Government when she was Home Secretary, and she has

restated that commitment, despite the fact that her Home Secretary and

Foreign Secretary do not believe it is achievable, and you tell me in

any way how you would bring the figure down. The Government will

have to look at a range of measures on migration, but one of the clear

messages from the referendum was a very widespread concern in our

country about levels of immigration, and the Government needs to respond

to that. One of the comments she made about the Labour Party is that

it will spend the next few months in a divisive leadership battle while

her body gets on with bringing the country back together. That is what

is going to happen, the Labour Party is going to be fighting itself while

the Government gets on. Well, the Labour Party is having an internal,

democratic election, and that could be quite healing for the Labour

Party. It is definitely a difference from the Tory benches, given they

have our daily the ship contest there, and certainly Theresa May's

style was quite refreshing and moved away from Flashman. -- they have had

a leadership contest there. I would question her judgment in appointing

Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary. You agree with what Jeremy Corbyn

said? I do, given Britain's role on the European stage being so

critical, and how we define our relationship with the rest of the

world, having someone who has said the things that he has said, which

was referred to in PMQs, that is a real concern. He did a really good

job promoting London. Funny you should mention all of this!

Boris Johnson and some of his remarks were brought up by Jeremy

Corbyn in the chamber. US Secretary of State John Kerry

was in town yesterday, and as he went to see Theresa May

in Downing Street, he got a traditional

British welcome. At the Foreign Office later,

the new Foreign Secretary tried to be more welcoming

to the visiting dignitary. Both were subjected to some tricky

questions about Boris's past, but Mr Kerry spoke of

the man he'd heard about. This man is a very smart

and capable man. I can live with that,

I can live with that! That's the Boris Johnson

that I've met, and we intend to make good

things happen. Phew!

Stop that, that's great... You've accused the current

US President, Barack Obama, of harbouring a part-Kenyan's

"an ancestral dislike for the British Empire,"

while claiming, that he didn't want a Churchill

bust in the White House. You have described a possible future

US President, Hillary Clinton, as someone with, "Dyed blonde hair

and pouty lips and a steely blue stare like a sadistic nurse

in a mental hospital." You've also likened her

to Lady Macbeth. Or do you want to take them

with you into your new job as some sort of indicator of the type

of diplomacy you will practise? I'm afraid that there is such

a rich thesaurus now of things that I have said

that have been one way or another, through what alchemy I do not know,

somehow misconstrued, that it would really take me

too long to engage in a full global itinerary

of apology to all concerned. And I think most people,

most people who read these things in their proper context,

can see exactly what was intended. Let's see, Cat Smith, Boris Johnson,

these comments were raised by your leader, he tends to bluff and say,

look, they were taken out of context, they were misconstrued, but

you think it is more serious than that. I think Boris thinks he is

very funny, but the reality is that it is a very serious time in terms

of our relationship on the world stage, so he cannot afford to make

jokes, and I hope that he really considers the language that he uses

when talking about other political leaders, other potential leaders,

and other countries. Do you... Who said he made a good job of being

mayor, hardly a ringing endorsement of him as Foreign Secretary, is it?

In some cases he has used language that I wouldn't, but before he

became mayor, lots of people raised concerns and said he would not be

serious enough to do the job, but his approval rating from Londoners

was very high. Will it hurt him? Everybody knows his form, he has to

live down his past, he has conducted himself as a columnist doing

politics, rather than a politician doing a newspaper column, and he has

to be less interesting in future, not get carried away by his own gift

of phrasemaking, which he writes like a runaway horse. He's the

Foreign Secretary, that has got to be change. What a memo, be less

interesting! Thank you very much.

Now, if you remember, at the beginning of the show

to satirise Theresa May's first Prime Minister's Questions.

Here he is, getting his equipment at there, look, crayons, pencils,

different colours, not traditional blue! Here he is hard at work for

us. You have to earn your deep when you come on the Daily Politics, even

on a Wednesday. We will see the fruits of his labour in just a

moment, you can see the beginnings of him sketching out Theresa May.

Boris?! Similar hair! Show us what you have got.

Well it is Theresa May... Thank God for that! Of course, it

refers to the IMF, at about the exit putting a spanner in the works. I

wondered whether, as I was listening outside, whether first of all I had

used the wrong metaphor and it should have been the elephant in the

room, because of the fact that Brexit is going to dominate her

premiership, but Corbyn did not mention it at all. It is absolutely

true, but what are your impressions of her in terms of satire? It is

impossible now, even more so today, with the pearls and a blue suit, the

comparison to the Iron Lady is so obvious. Are you going to have to

carve out a slightly different role? It is not just going to be the

leopard-skin shoes either, it has to be something more than that. But

there are great echoes of Thatcher in her presentation, facially as

well, and she has even got the Helmut Haller card now, which has

echoes of Thatcher. -- the helmet haircut. You have to keep Thatcher

out of her mind while you are drawing, she is something of an

enigma. I think we can show some of the other sketches that have been

done, but while they are going up, what are the qualities and

characteristics that you look for? These are some of the others that

have been done of Theresa May, the physical features, the nose and the

hair. Peter Brooks is a master at this, and he has gone for the nose,

well and truly gone for the nose! In a way, that is also similar to

Margaret Thatcher. And the handbag as well. These shoes are going to be

absolutely crucial, let's have a look at another one which was done

fairly recently, what to think of that one? Brilliant, but then David

Brown is always brilliant. It is quite dark. Of course it is dark, he

is a satirist! It works, it really works. Let's take a look at the last

one, the famous kitten heels, that is his signature, if a little bit

rude. Steve Bell combining two metaphors there, very clever, as he

always is. But that doesn't show her face, of course. Steve has yet to

put a defining caricature of her in. Is that why we have not got the

face? Do you think the portrayals of Prime Minister change over time?

Blair certainly did, but they do, don't they? In his case, badly with

Iraq. And that will develop, what type of person becomes a cartoonist?

Are you dark? There is a dark side to us all, why would you choose this

otherwise? It is quite an aggressive occupation, making fun of people all

the time. But to answer your question, a very mixed bunch, all

sorts of people, a strange bunch. Let's see how you develop! Just time

to put you out of your misery and give you the answer to guess the

year, it was 1988. Can you press the button? We will find out who has got

it. A very gentle pressing of the bus! The mug is yours, Richard.

That's all for today, thanks to all our guests.

after more than 11 years on the Daily Politics.

We wish him well and leave you with a reminder of some

of his more memorable moments on the programme.

Giles, over to you, and we will be counting those puns.

Well, what do the horse trainers here

make of the runners and riders in the election race?

Deals that can be done are the meat of politics

in this election that is far from a falcon conclusion.

And I'm told they're just jumping to tell me their burning issues.

I know they're sceptical, but this new male make-up

does make you look a bit more rock 'n' roll,

has got me in touch with my feminine side.

# What a man, what a man, what a man

# What a man, what a man, what a mighty good man... #

You're coming across as, frankly, ridiculous.