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Hello, and welcome to The Daily Politics.

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She said she'd walk away from a bad deal with the EU,

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and Theresa May certainly has a spring in her step

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after yesterday's big Brexit speech, as her Brexit Secretary said this

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morning "why on earth could it go wrong?"

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Theresa May confirmed we would be out of the Single Market

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and no longer full members of the customs union.

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But what will our future trading relationship be with the EU

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And Theresa May will face MPs for the first time

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since her speech yesterday, we'll bring you PMQs live

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And the Speaker said he'd retire next year,

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who'll be pulled oh-so-reluctantly to the speakers chair once

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All that in the next 90 minutes of the very finest public

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And it's such an honour to appear on this programme, that our two

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guests had to keep up what I can only assume is the pretence

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of being reluctantly dragged into the studio this morning.

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With us the Universities and Science Minister,

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Jo Johnson, and Shadow Brexit Minister, Jenny Chapman.

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So it's the morning after the big speech, and Number Ten will no doubt

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They might be encouraged by some of today's front pages.

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The Daily Mail hails the speech as "momentous",

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and calls the Prime Minister as "the new Iron Lady".

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The Daily Telegraph describes the speech as "bold",

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picking up on the line that the UK might walk away if

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The Times warns the EU not to try and punish the UK for Brexit,

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saying that Britain could change its economic model and lure

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The Daily Mirror chimes in on the same theme,

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calling it May's "Brexit ultimatum: give us a deal...or we'll walk".

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While the Sun has coined the new phrase "Brexodus".

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And the Guardian leads with "May's Brexit threat to Europe".

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What about the political reaction here in the UK?

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Well, MPs had a chance to express their views

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in the Commons yesterday evening, here's a flavour of some

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I think we should loyally support the Government.

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In 45 minutes, the Prime Minister hasn't delivered a plan.

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Let's talk of just one example raised by my colleague,

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She said she wants us to leave the common commercial policy

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and the common external tariff, but to have associate membership

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A membership that doesn't yet exist, and nobody else has.

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Can the Secretary of State tell us exactly what this means now,

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for the deals like the Nissan deal, on which thousands

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Or simply, what cake is it that he wants

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My right honourable friend, I'm sure, would acknowledge

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that the Prime Minister's speech is principled, is reasonable,

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My right honourable friend in his speech made clear that no

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In the unlikely, I'm sure, event that we were to get a bad deal,

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and the House were to vote against it, what would be the impact

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in terms of our status with the European Union?

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What I don't understand, when reading the Prime Minister's

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statement, or listening to my right honourable friend, is which country

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in the world is going to enter into a trade agreement with this

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country, on the basis that the rules are entirely what the British say

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they are going to be on any particular day, and, if there's any

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dispute about the rules, it's going to be sorted out

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Theresa May's speech had less positive reviews in the European

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press. The German newspaper Die Welt

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compares Theresa May's speech Cinco Dias, a Spanish business

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and finance newspaper, says Theresa May is defying

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the European Union by choosing France's La Tribune echoes that,

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calling her choice a "hard Brexit". This morning, in the European

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Parliament, the President of the European

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Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has given his reaction

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to Theresa May's speech. TRANSLATION: I welcome what the

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Prime Minister of the UK said yesterday. I said yesterday a speech

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alone cannot trigger negotiations. Once the UK has activated Article

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50, the negotiations will start, and they should be concluded within two

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years according to the treaty, the negotiations are going to be of

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great significance to that country but also to the 27 other states. I

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will do everything to make sure the negotiations will be according to

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the rules, and will yield good results. That was the President of

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the commission Jean-Claude Juncker. We're joined now from Berlin

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by Daniel-Dylan Bohmer Welcome to The Daily Politics.

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Theresa May says she wants the UK to be outside the single market but to

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still have the best possible access to it. How has the speech gone down

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in Germany? I would say in general, we are somewhat relieved that there

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seems to be clarity now in London as for the cause that Theresa May's

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government wants to take on those negotiations. Because lately there

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has been the impression that the Brexit situation in the UK could

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turn into chaos, that could potentially last forever. So, we are

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happy here to see that there is a course she wants to take. As for the

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nitty-gritty of what she said, I think some people here can't

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understand that she is actually aiming for a hard Brexit, because we

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thought that having even closer relationship with the European Union

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would do better for Britain and the European Union. I think then there

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are some who look at the words she said, and in particular staying

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outside the common market, while having prime access to it. That

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seems to us to be some kind of contradiction that is hard to

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swallow for us. Except she says, if she doesn't get that or something

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fairly close, she called it calamitous self harm. In other

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words, German car manufacturers, German businesses, will suffer just

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as much. What's been the reaction to that? Well, that of course is a

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valid point, here. That's why in particular the chancellery has aimed

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at negotiations likely to get the softest possible version of a hard

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Brexit. Remember two things. For once, German business, including,

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new factories, where rather relaxed on the props -- on the prospect of

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Brexit, even before it was clear what kind of Brexit London was

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aiming for. There was a survey done of major German companies a few

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weeks ago showing that less than 10% think there could be strong negative

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effects on their business. German business in general is relaxed on

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that. Even though Angela Merkel recently appealed to German

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business, to show a united front with EU governments in negotiations

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over Britain's departure, urging them to support the principle of

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full access to the single market only in exchange for signing up to

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the four freedoms. That seems to demonstrate she's worried that

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German business would be prepared to give Britain exactly what it once,

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because it wouldn't want to have a negative affect on their own

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industries. Angela Merkel can't afford for that to happen

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politically. Well, that is definitely the case. On the other

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hand, we have seen her acting as a very principled politician, not only

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on moral grounds, but because she seems to fundamentally believe that

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a policy can only work if it fundamentally in itself makes sense.

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I think there's a sense here that whatever deal there is with the

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Brits, there can't be a deal that puts into question the validity of

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the core European liberties and freedoms. Because, of course, there

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is a danger of contagion, if Europe gives Britain a deal that is too

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soft, it could be a temptation to other countries to leave the

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European Union. I think with the French elections ahead, where the

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National Front has a clear chance to have someone from its own ranks as a

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President and hold a referendum of its own, I think the cohesion of the

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European Union and the future of the EU, that is a prime priority for

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everyone here in Germany. That does include German business and German

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companies. Very interesting to talk you, thank you.

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Jo Johnson, the government committed to publish some sort of plan before

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Article 50 was triggered. We heard the speech of today, is that it?

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This is a strong plan that sets out our negotiating objectives. We can

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see from the welcome offered from the business community and countries

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such as Germany, is its welcome but we now know what our clear

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objectives are... I want to clarify a couple of things before we come

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onto some of the substance. There won't be a white paper now? This is

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the plan, it's a strong, 12 point plan that sets out how the

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government sees success. So it's on the basis of the text of Mrs May's

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speech that you will trigger Article 50? It is, this is a clear

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annunciation... Forgive me, but... This is the basis on which will be

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triggering Article 50. I'm trying to get some clarity on the process. It

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is interesting on this. When you come to trigger Article 50, if there

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is to be a vote in Parliament, we wait on the Supreme Court ruling,

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will that be a simple one clause Bill that this House votes to

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trigger Article 50? That is prejudging the judgment... We can't

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get ahead of ourselves. But if it is, what will you do? That's the

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government to determine in light of any judgment from the Supreme Court.

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So you don't know? It's not for me to pre-empt the judgment. I'm simply

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asking if the Supreme Court rules against you, which is widely

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expected, will you then bring forward legislation that cannot be

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amended? It's that the government to set that out in the light of the

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judgment. What the Prime Minister made clear again was that the

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government will be triggering Article 50 by the end of March. And

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in a sense, this is as good as it gets, isn't it? This is the

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negotiating position. It now has to go into negotiations, no matter how

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good, you never get everything you want. So whatever we end up with

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will be less than what Mrs May outlined yesterday. I think this is

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a really strong foundation for a negotiation. We set out clearly what

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success looks like. I think people can be reassured that it means the

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greatest possible access to the single market, while not being

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constrained by the jurisdiction of the European Court, while having

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control over immigration and those sorts of things which were so

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important in the referendum. I'm just trying to get a broad position.

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David Davis said on the today programme's this morning that there

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wouldn't be a single vote as the process goes on, there would be a

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series of fights on major law changes before ratification. What

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did he mean by that? I think David Davis set out clearly yesterday how

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this process will unfold. Parliament will have a say over the deal, it

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will be a vote in both houses of Parliament. There will be a role for

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MPs in this process. He said that there wouldn't be a single vote, now

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he's saying there will be a vote at the very end, but there would be a

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series of fights on major law changes before ratification. What

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does that mean? -- series of votes. The government has set out its plan

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to enact a great repeal bill which will bring into legislation those

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rules and regulations we want to continue to have effect in this

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country after we leave the EU. That process will itself of course

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require votes in Parliament. In addition to the votes which the

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Prime Minister promised yesterday. I thought that was to simply transfer

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existing European law on to British law, and then after ratification you

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could take your time to decide what you're going to keep and what you

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won't. You going to change some of these laws before we leave? The

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government has set out its plans to... Do you change that before we

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leave or not? Before we leave or afterwards? I put the idea was to

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move these laws onto the British statute book, and then deal with

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them after ratification of our leaving. Are we now saying some of

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that will be changed before we leave? I think David Davis was

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making clear that the plans the government has set out with a great

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repeal Bill will be carried forward and will require votes in

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Parliament. Your boss Keir Starmer said yesterday the Prime Minister's

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negotiating objectives were broadly on the right lines. We pushed the

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Prime Minister into making this speech, we argued for a plan and

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secured that in the House of Commons just before Christmas. Her response

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has been to provide the speech yesterday, which actually did

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contain the elements that we were requiring of her. We have the vote

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at the end of the process now... I thought it was Labour's position I

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wanted us to remain members of the single market? We think she could

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have been more ambitions to give the negotiations of the single market

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before negotiations start is lacking ambition. Given the spinningle

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market, our membership of it or relationship to it is probably the

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core of everything that is now going to happen. How can the Government

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broadly be on the right lines when it's already admitted we will no

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longer be members of the single market? That's the fascinating

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things. She said yesterday she didn't want to be a member of the

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single market but she clearly indicated in her speech that she

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wanted to have all the elements of membership that we value most. So,

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when we get to unravel what it is she's saying, we're finding her

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ambition is being broadly termed a soft Brexit but the sting in the

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tail is she threatens a hard Brexit should she not get the deal she

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wants. If she gets the deal she outlined yesterday, we can support

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that. We'll come on to more of that in a minute.

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Yesterday, Mr May said after Brexit we will be out of membership of the

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single market. But what else did we learn about our future trading

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relationship with the EU and with the rest of the world? Here's JoCo.

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Theresa May made clear that after Brexit the UK will no longer

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be a member of the single market, the group of European

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countries subject to the free movement of goods, services,

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She also said Britain will no longer be a full member

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of the customs union, where goods can move freely

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between European countries with common tariffs on goods

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Members also have to sign up to the same rules and regulations.

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The Prime Minister wants the UK to strike new free trade

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deals around the world, which customs union membership

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But she said she also wants cross-border trade with Europe to be

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So if the UK is no longer a member of the customs union,

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Theresa May suggested the UK could either be an "associate

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member" of the customs union, or there could be a new form

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She also said she had "an open mind" on the issue,

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suggesting the Government does not yet have a preferred option.

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Northern Ireland shares a border with an EU country,

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and so could need a hard border to carry out customs checks if

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That could be damaging to the peace process.

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Jo Johnson, what's an Osh yacht member of the union? She wants

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frictionless trade between the UK and other members of the European

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Union but, at the same time, the freedom to agree ambitious trade

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deals with the US and India etc. What would an Oshiate member of the

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customs union mean? It would be a bespoke deal for Britain giving us

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the friingsless deals we enjoy with the European Union. No tariffs on

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goods. A strong relagship with the regulatory bodies on the services

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side. We want to maintain that whilst gaining the freedom to strike

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trade deals for Britain around the world. We would have the advantages

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of the customs union with our ability to set our own tariffs and

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trade deals with the rest of the world. How will the rest of Europe

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react to that? It is in both sets of interests to maintain the current

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friingsless trade which remains -- frictionless. It is in neither sets

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of interests. We want to keep that while striking deals around the

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world. If we set our tariffs for the rest of the world, surely there has

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to be some mechanism by which any goods coming to this country moving

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to Europe, the Europeans would have to investigate that? That's what the

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rules of origin are. It could not be friction-free. We'll explore these

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over the months to come. That's the fundamental issue. The goal, as

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great an access as is possible to the single market whilst retaining

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our ab-I will toy to strike trade deals around the world. Do you

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accept if we get a Free Trade Deal with the EU, it cannot by definition

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give us the same degree of access we currently enjoy? We have to start

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with the status quo. It is exceptionally advantageous. We all

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start with the status quo. That's what it means. A strong relationship

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between our regulatory bodies. We don't want to lose that. There's no

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Free Trade Deal as good as the access we currently have? Let's wait

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and see. Why would the Europeans agree to that? If we have access we

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have at the moment, certain conditions come with that we're not

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prepared to pay. Free movement of peoples and capital and so on.

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Clearly, it will be a step down from what we have at the moment? It is

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just a matter of how much? This is to be seen. We want to have as fri

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consider, tionless trade as possible with the European Union, the ability

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to strike trade deals around the world. If we don't want to be a Jude

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Kated by the European Court of Justice but we have a Free Trade

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Deal, what courts would adjudicate on that Free Trade Deal? There are

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various dispute resolutions niches around the world which don't rely on

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the European Court of Justice. They'll be explored during the

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negotiations. There are other mechanisms available, ones we might

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want to create. If we had a Free Trade Deal with the European Union,

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on the European Union side that would be the European Court of

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Justice who would adjudicate? Not necessarily. This has to be thrashed

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out during negotiations. We do not want to be part of the European

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justice going forward. That's key from the referendum. How can we be

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outside the customs union and not have a hard border between the north

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and are you lick of Ireland? Again, the Prime Minister's speech was

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clear... She didn't explain how she could do it. She has the aspiration?

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How do you do it? Work closely with the republic and Northern Ireland

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and make sure there isn't a return of things of the past. I'm asking

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you if we're outside the customs union, how can you achieve that?

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These are the issues we'll work our way through over the next 24, 25

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months. All rye. Jen ise, we talked about the single market before. Are

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we right saying Labour would like to remain in the customs union? We

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would like the unincumbent trade we currently have. Theresa May says we

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can have all the bib fits... Sure, you accept we'll come out of the

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single market though you don't don't support it. It wasn't your position

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but you are in favour the remaining in the customs union contrary to

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what she said yesterday? We want all the benefits of the customs union.

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To get that, you have to be in the customs union. If there was a way of

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achieving in an outside the customs union, which is what the Prime

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Minister said she wants yesterday and what they promise add Nissan,

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free and unincumbent trade, let's look at that. It is an incredibly

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hard task to achieve. Right. But Labour would rather we remained in

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the customs union but we couldn't pursue free trade deals across the

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world? It would make it incredibly difficult. That is the challenge,

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putting it lightly, that we have. If that's Labour position, you are

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happy, or accept we come out of the single market but want to persuade

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the Government to remain in the customs union without the

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opportunity to receive new trade deal, that would be the worst of all

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words. That's not what I said. It is what Theresa May said she could say

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chief yesterday. We don't know how she can pull this off. It would be

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the most incredible feat of diplomacy if she can pull it off. If

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she can't, we're in a very different situation in two years' time when

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you look at the deal. You sound like you don't necessarily think she can,

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it is a very tall order. In we come towards Article 50, the towards the

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type of Brexit Labour doesn't want or think she can achieve, will you

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vote against it? We won't vote against Article 50. We've made that

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clear. What are you going to do? We'll hold the Government to the

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standards it set itself yesterday. How will you stop her coming out of

:24:57.:25:00.

the single market or moving towards that? We get a vote. One of the

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things she guaranteed us yesterday is a vote at the end of the process.

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That was a very significant commitment from the Government. If

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the vote is on the final deal and the choice is coming out of the EU

:25:14.:25:19.

without a deal or voting for what's been negotiated even if you don't

:25:20.:25:24.

like it, how would Labour vote? We'd have to look at what's on the table

:25:25.:25:28.

at the time. We will not vote for a hard Brexit at that point. She also

:25:29.:25:34.

said yesterday there would be no cliff edge which suggests

:25:35.:25:37.

transitional arrangements. We would be in a position in two years' time

:25:38.:25:42.

with a transitional arrangement so the choice isn't the Deal or No

:25:43.:25:46.

Deal. Which is an old thing for her to have said yesterday. It would be

:25:47.:25:50.

very have a transitional deal already in place. We can't predict

:25:51.:25:56.

the position of the UK in relation to the EU in two years' time at this

:25:57.:26:03.

early stage. Keir Starmer was asked about Labour's policy on free moment

:26:04.:26:06.

today. He said the rules will have to change. We are not seeking the

:26:07.:26:10.

status quo. Do you want free movement to change? We cant the

:26:11.:26:17.

management to be reasonable. You don't want it to end? We want the

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status quo. That's clear from the British public.

:26:25.:26:28.

Now, the pound might have surged following

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But those techie types at Apple have blamed the UK's weaker currency

:26:31.:26:36.

following the EU referendum for a rise in the price of apps.

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Yes, the California based corporation say they'll increase

:26:40.:26:41.

the prices of their cheapest apps, which currently set you back 79

:26:42.:26:44.

That means it'll be more expensive to play Angry Birds,

:26:45.:26:49.

a favourite of former Prime Minister David Cameron.

:26:50.:26:52.

Candy Crush Saga, Pokemon Go and Minecraft,

:26:53.:26:56.

a favourite of JoCo's, will all cost more too.

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Yes, Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.

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And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here.

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Can Jeremy Corbyn avoid Europe? Of late, he has been going on the

:29:17.:29:23.

subjects which are the subject of day more often. It will be

:29:24.:29:27.

surprising if he choses not to go on Brexit. What angle would he go on?

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This is where the complication comes in. Forgive me, I've been listening

:29:32.:29:35.

to the last few minutes of the programme. It is not clear to some

:29:36.:29:39.

people on the Labour benches what their position is. What did Keir

:29:40.:29:43.

Starmer really mean when he said Theresa May ruled out a hard Brexit.

:29:44.:29:50.

People say, had she? Did she really? Where's the party's position on

:29:51.:29:53.

freedom of movement. It will be surprising if he doesn't go on

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Brexit. This is such a momentous time. The speech yesterday will be

:29:58.:30:02.

looked at a genuinely important moment in the tangled web of how we

:30:03.:30:06.

extricate ourselves. We're relieved you watched the programme. We

:30:07.:30:10.

thought you were too busy to do that! Nothing else. Blocked it out

:30:11.:30:17.

in my diary. Doubled the ratings in one go. I understand Jo Johnson's

:30:18.:30:23.

brother, other Foreign Secretary's been speaking about the French

:30:24.:30:27.

president? If Jeremy Corbyn were nimble he would have put it to

:30:28.:30:32.

Theresa May. Ghi us the line. This morning, Boris Johnson compared

:30:33.:30:36.

Brexit to some escape from a World War II camp. He said if Mr Hollande

:30:37.:30:42.

wants to administer some punishment beating to anyone trying to escape

:30:43.:30:46.

like in a World War II movie, that is not the way forward. Of course,

:30:47.:30:51.

that is immediately being written up as another one of the Boris Johnson

:30:52.:30:58.

gaffes like the having cake and eating it, all of that. Implicitly,

:30:59.:31:05.

some people are suggesting he's somehow comparing the French to the

:31:06.:31:06.

Germans. Now over the common. Alcohol is a primary factor in

:31:07.:31:36.

domestic violence attacks on women. Does the primers to recognise the

:31:37.:31:41.

seriousness of the country's alcohol problems and the billions of pounds

:31:42.:31:44.

of cost to the public purse and will she instructor government to address

:31:45.:31:49.

these problems effectively and as a matter of urgency? I can certainly

:31:50.:31:53.

say that I recognise the problem is that alcohol causes. He particularly

:31:54.:31:56.

referenced not just problems for pregnant women but also the issue

:31:57.:32:00.

around domestic violence and the part alcohol can often play on

:32:01.:32:05.

domestic violence and abuse. That's why when I was Home Secretary we

:32:06.:32:09.

produced an alcohol strategy, we worked on the issue and the

:32:10.:32:11.

government continues to recognise the importance of this issue and to

:32:12.:32:19.

work on it. Will the Prime Minister join me in paying tribute to the NHS

:32:20.:32:24.

staff who provide us with such magnificent treatment day in, day

:32:25.:32:30.

out? Will she also agree with me that people who miss NHS

:32:31.:32:32.

appointments without cancelling them cost the NHS a great deal of money

:32:33.:32:37.

and also take up slots which would otherwise be used by other patients?

:32:38.:32:42.

Will she consider how she might let those people know of the

:32:43.:32:47.

inconvenience they are causing? My honourable friend makes two

:32:48.:32:50.

important points. I'm pleased to join with him in paying tribute to

:32:51.:32:54.

the dedication and hard work of all those who work in our NHS. Secondly,

:32:55.:33:00.

he is right to point out that if somebody misses an appointment it is

:33:01.:33:06.

a cost on the NHS. There are a number of ways in which this is

:33:07.:33:09.

being dealt with, including in some hospitals sending out text messages

:33:10.:33:14.

reminding people of appointments and telling them how much it costs if

:33:15.:33:17.

they miss that appointment. Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr

:33:18.:33:25.

Speaker, yesterday the Prime Minister snubbed Parliament, and

:33:26.:33:34.

snubbed the Brexit committee's recommendations to bring forward a

:33:35.:33:39.

white paper, while at the same time describing the referendum as a vote

:33:40.:33:42.

to restore our Parliamentary democracy. This is about our jobs,

:33:43.:33:50.

living standards and future prosperity. Why will it not be

:33:51.:34:01.

scrutinised by this House? I say to the right honourable gentleman that

:34:02.:34:05.

what I did yesterday was set out a plan for a global Britain. I set out

:34:06.:34:13.

a plan that will put the divisions of last year behind us, that will

:34:14.:34:24.

show a vision... That shows a vision for a stronger, fairer, more united,

:34:25.:34:33.

more outward looking, prosperous, tolerant and independent, truly

:34:34.:34:35.

global Britain. It was a vision which will shape a stronger future

:34:36.:34:41.

and build a better Britain. Mr Speaker. Restoring democracy whilst

:34:42.:34:56.

sidelining Parliament. It's not so much the Iron Lady as the irony

:34:57.:35:12.

lady! Yesterday, Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister finally provided some

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detail. Can I urge her to stop her threat of a bargain basement Brexit,

:35:17.:35:24.

a low pay tax haven on the shores of Europe. It won't necessarily damage

:35:25.:35:29.

the EU, but it would certainly damage this country. Businesses,

:35:30.:35:33.

jobs and public services. She demeans herself and her office, and

:35:34.:35:37.

her country's standing, by making these kind of threats. What I set

:35:38.:35:44.

out yesterday was a plan for a global Britain bringing prosperity

:35:45.:35:49.

to this country, and jobs to people, and spreading economic growth across

:35:50.:35:54.

the country. But actually yesterday, we'll so learned more of the right

:35:55.:35:56.

honourable gentleman's thinking on this issue. What he said was the

:35:57.:36:08.

following. "She Has said will leave the single market but at the same

:36:09.:36:12.

time says she wants to have access to the single market. I'm not sure

:36:13.:36:16.

how that's going to go down in Europe. I think we have to have a

:36:17.:36:21.

deal that ensures we have access to the market". LAUGHTER I've got a

:36:22.:36:35.

plan, he doesn't have a clue! Mr Speaker, she made the threat. She

:36:36.:36:45.

was the one he made the threat about slashing corporation tax. If you

:36:46.:36:51.

reduce corporation tax to the lowest common denominator, this country

:36:52.:36:58.

loses ?120 billion in revenue. How, then, do you fund public services as

:36:59.:37:03.

a result of that? Last year, the Prime Minister said leaving the

:37:04.:37:08.

single market would make trade deals considerably harder. And, while we

:37:09.:37:13.

could certainly negotiate our own trade agreements, there would be no

:37:14.:37:18.

guarantee that they would be on terms as good as those we now enjoy.

:37:19.:37:23.

But yesterday, the Prime Minister only offered as vague guarantees.

:37:24.:37:28.

Can I ask her, does she now disagree with herself? LAUGHTER The right

:37:29.:37:37.

honourable gentleman might also have noticed that when I spoke in the

:37:38.:37:42.

Remain Campaign, I said if we voted to leave the European Union, the sky

:37:43.:37:47.

wouldn't fall in. Look at what has happened, actually, to our economic

:37:48.:37:51.

situation, since we voted to leave the EU. I say he talks about the

:37:52.:37:57.

future of this economy, I want us to be an outward looking nation,

:37:58.:38:01.

trading around the world, bringing prosperity and jobs into the UK. The

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one thing that would be bad for the economy is the answer is that the

:38:06.:38:08.

right honourable gentleman has. He wants a cap on wages, no control on

:38:09.:38:15.

immigration, and to borrow an extra ?500 billion. That wouldn't lead to

:38:16.:38:20.

prosperity, that would lead to no jobs, no wages and no skills. The

:38:21.:38:29.

Chancellor said after the referendum that to lose single market access

:38:30.:38:33.

would be catastrophic. A few days later the Health Secretary said, the

:38:34.:38:37.

first part of the plan must be clarity that we will remain in the

:38:38.:38:42.

single market. The Prime Minister said something about frictionless

:38:43.:38:45.

access to the single market and a bespoke customs union deal. Could

:38:46.:38:49.

the Prime Minister give us a little bit of certainty and clarity about

:38:50.:38:55.

this? Has she ruled out paying any kind of access to what she describes

:38:56.:39:04.

as a frictionless market? I can say to the right honourable gentleman

:39:05.:39:06.

that access to the single market is exactly what I was talking about

:39:07.:39:11.

yesterday in my speech. One of the key principles, key objectives, is

:39:12.:39:15.

that we negotiate a free trade agreement with the European Union

:39:16.:39:20.

that gives us the widest possible access for trading with and

:39:21.:39:23.

operating within the European Union. And he talks about frictionless

:39:24.:39:27.

access, actually this was a separate point, which is about frictionless

:39:28.:39:31.

borders in relation to the customs issue. A very important issue in

:39:32.:39:36.

relation to our relationship between Northern Ireland and the Republic of

:39:37.:39:40.

Ireland. The Taoiseach and I and all parties are absolutely on a single

:39:41.:39:44.

page on this, we want to ensure we have the best possible arrangement

:39:45.:39:48.

that doesn't lead to a Borders of the past in Northern Ireland. The

:39:49.:39:56.

question was, would we have to pay for access to the market or not? The

:39:57.:39:58.

Prime Minister hasn't given an answer on that. Yesterday she set

:39:59.:40:03.

out a wish list on immigration referring to skills shortages and

:40:04.:40:09.

high skilled migration. Does she now disagree with the Secretary of State

:40:10.:40:12.

rural affairs, who told an employer 's conference, don't worry, you can

:40:13.:40:17.

still have cheap EU labour after we leave the European Union? The Right

:40:18.:40:23.

honourable gentleman talks about access. Yes, the whole point is that

:40:24.:40:28.

we will negotiate a free trade agreement with the European Union,

:40:29.:40:32.

but it's about the best possible access for British business to

:40:33.:40:37.

operate in the European Union member states and for European businesses

:40:38.:40:40.

to operate here in the United Kingdom. It's about sitting down and

:40:41.:40:46.

negotiating the best possible deal for the United Kingdom. That's what

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I'm committed to and that's what this government is going to deliver.

:40:50.:40:54.

My question was about how much we are going to have to pay to have

:40:55.:40:58.

access to the market. Still no answer. Yesterday she talked about

:40:59.:41:05.

the pressure put on public services by migration. Can I just remind her,

:41:06.:41:10.

as one of her honourable friends did earlier, but at the moment there are

:41:11.:41:18.

55,000 EU citizens working in our NHS, helping to treat all of the

:41:19.:41:23.

people of this country. There are 80,000 care workers helping our,

:41:24.:41:29.

mainly elderly, people. There are 5000 teachers, educating our

:41:30.:41:33.

children. The real pressure on public services comes from a

:41:34.:41:37.

government that slashed billions from the social care budget, that is

:41:38.:41:42.

cutting the schools budget, that is closing A departments and walk-in

:41:43.:41:46.

centres and sure start centres. Instead of threatening to turn

:41:47.:41:50.

Britain into an offshore tax haven, let's welcome those who contribute

:41:51.:41:56.

to our public services and fund our public services properly, so that we

:41:57.:42:01.

do have the fully functioning NHS that we all need and deserve! I made

:42:02.:42:08.

clear yesterday, we value those who have come to the UK and contribute

:42:09.:42:13.

to our economy and our society, and there will still be people coming to

:42:14.:42:17.

the UK from the European Union, when we leave the EU. The crucial issue

:42:18.:42:23.

is that it is this government that will be making decisions about our

:42:24.:42:27.

immigration system for people from the European Union. But yet again, I

:42:28.:42:31.

say to the right honourable gentleman, there is indeed a

:42:32.:42:34.

difference between us. It's very simple, when I look at the issue of

:42:35.:42:39.

Brexit, or indeed at any other issue like the National Health Service or

:42:40.:42:46.

social care, I consider the issue, I set out my plan, and I stick to it.

:42:47.:42:53.

It's called leadership, he should try it sometime! Yesterday was a day

:42:54.:43:06.

for being bold and ambitious and I'm sure that she noted Lincoln city

:43:07.:43:12.

football club... Qualify to the fourth round of the FA Cup. I noted

:43:13.:43:18.

her recent comments about white working-class boys in university. In

:43:19.:43:22.

ten years half a million fewer males have gone to university than

:43:23.:43:29.

females. Exam result of lower -- exam results are lower at all

:43:30.:43:34.

levels. I ask my right honourable friend, when can we expect to see

:43:35.:43:39.

practical action on closing the gender education gap? Can I join my

:43:40.:43:43.

honourable friend in congratulating Lincoln city on their victory last

:43:44.:43:47.

night and say I think it was a fitting tribute to Graham Taylor

:43:48.:43:50.

that they won that match. He's raised an important point. I have

:43:51.:43:56.

highlighted the issue particularly of white working-class boys who are

:43:57.:43:59.

the group in society least likely to go to university. We are committed

:44:00.:44:03.

to making sure that every child gets the opportunity to fulfil their

:44:04.:44:08.

potential, that is about ensuring apprenticeships are as accessible as

:44:09.:44:12.

possible and I'm pleased to say that the number of apprenticeships

:44:13.:44:15.

started by males have increased this year to almost 50%. Also,

:44:16.:44:20.

universities expect to spend ?800 million this year in improving

:44:21.:44:23.

access and success for disadvantaged students. We want everybody to

:44:24.:44:28.

achieve their potential, whatever their background and whatever their

:44:29.:44:33.

gender. Shortly after the Prime Minister confirmed she wants to take

:44:34.:44:39.

the UK out of the single European market, the Scottish Parliament

:44:40.:44:43.

voted by a large cross-party majority to remain in the single

:44:44.:44:48.

European market, just as a large majority of people in Scotland voted

:44:49.:44:53.

to remain in the EU. The Prime Minister has said that Scotland is

:44:54.:45:01.

an equal partner in the United Kingdom. Does she still believe this

:45:02.:45:06.

is true, or is she just stringing the people

:45:07.:45:10.

I might refer the right honourable gentleman to my speech yesterday

:45:11.:45:14.

where I reiterated my commitment to be working with the devolved

:45:15.:45:18.

administrations to ensure their voice is heard of, their interests

:45:19.:45:22.

are taken into account as we proceed along this path negotiating our exit

:45:23.:45:27.

were European Union. I specifically references the Scotland plan. I

:45:28.:45:30.

understand the Welsh Government will produce a plan for Wales for us to

:45:31.:45:35.

look at too. That Scotland plan will be considered by the JMC on European

:45:36.:45:39.

negotiations tomorrow, I believe. We'll look at it seriously, working

:45:40.:45:43.

with the Scottish Government on the proposals they bring forward.

:45:44.:45:48.

Scotland's leading economic forecaster says, real wages will

:45:49.:45:56.

fall... LAUGHTER Tories jeering and cheering when the forecast for

:45:57.:46:03.

people's income is as likely to drop by ?2,000 and that 80,000, Mr

:46:04.:46:11.

Speaker, that 80,000 people may lose their jobs in Scotland as a result

:46:12.:46:18.

of the hard Tory Brexit plan of the Prime Minister. Does the Prime

:46:19.:46:24.

Minister believe that this is a price worth paying for her Little

:46:25.:46:31.

Britain Brexit? I repeat what I said earlier. We'll work to ensure we get

:46:32.:46:36.

the best possible deal in terms of access to the single market and

:46:37.:46:41.

continuing to cooperate in part are inship with the 28 remaining member

:46:42.:46:45.

states of the European Union. The right honourable gentleman once

:46:46.:46:50.

again talks about the possibility of a negative impact on Scotland if

:46:51.:46:53.

Scotland were not part of the single market. His party is dedicated to

:46:54.:46:58.

taking Scotland out of the single market by taking it out of the UK.

:46:59.:47:07.

Mr Speaker, this week directors of our larger companies have been told

:47:08.:47:12.

by investors to reign in senior executive pay which is too often

:47:13.:47:16.

distorted by long-term incentive plans which are too complex to

:47:17.:47:21.

manage and too excessive in their rewards. Will my right honourable

:47:22.:47:29.

friend look the such schemes as part of her corporate Government review?

:47:30.:47:33.

I'm pleased to say this Government's taken action on executive pay

:47:34.:47:37.

already giving shareholders the power to veto pay policies and force

:47:38.:47:44.

companies to Des cloy their board's pay. I want to build on that. We've

:47:45.:47:51.

pubbish Hirsched a Green Paper on how to strengthen shareholders'

:47:52.:47:55.

influence over executive pay and have greater transparency. Will the

:47:56.:48:03.

#3r50i789 provide a commitment today that no part of Great Repel Bill

:48:04.:48:09.

will be subject to ennish votes for English laws? -- lengthish votes.

:48:10.:48:19.

The honourable lady might recognise the Great Repel Bill will have a

:48:20.:48:25.

number of complex issues it will be dealing with. It will be ensuring at

:48:26.:48:33.

its heart will be the European communities act repeal. One of the

:48:34.:48:37.

issues we'll need to look at looking at that bill and negotiating our way

:48:38.:48:42.

out of the European Union is the issue of reserve matters and

:48:43.:48:46.

devolved matters. There are many aspects...

:48:47.:48:52.

THE SPEAKER: Order. Order. Members of the Scottish National Party led

:48:53.:48:56.

by the right honourable gentleman on the front bench who's supposed to be

:48:57.:49:01.

a statesman-like figure should demonstrate some calm and reserve

:49:02.:49:05.

while being answered by the the Prime Minister who was questioned.

:49:06.:49:09.

The Prime Minister. The honourable lady will know full well that any

:49:10.:49:13.

legislation brought before this House, if any part of it only

:49:14.:49:19.

applies to England then it will be subject to the English votes on

:49:20.:49:25.

English laws. May I congratulate the Prime Minister on her delivery

:49:26.:49:33.

yesterday of an historic, defin tiff, pragmatic, outward looking

:49:34.:49:36.

speech which saw the pound rise to its highest level in two years and

:49:37.:49:40.

the FTSE up today. Would she agree with me a strong and prosperous UK

:49:41.:49:46.

as she has planned, would be a nightmare for the Leader of the

:49:47.:49:52.

Opposition and the EU ruling class? I agree with my honourable friend, a

:49:53.:49:56.

strong and prosperous Britain is what we want to build as we leave

:49:57.:50:01.

the European Union. It is only a pitty it seems the Labour Party

:50:02.:50:05.

aren't interested in doing that and want to do the opposite and bring

:50:06.:50:13.

this economy down. Number 3, Mr Speaker. I always enjoy my visits to

:50:14.:50:17.

Wales. I hope to visit Wales in the future. Quite an answer as to

:50:18.:50:25.

whether she'll visit the Rhondda. I'm happy to accommodate her. I can

:50:26.:50:30.

do bacon and eggs. More importantly, I could take her to see the best

:50:31.:50:37.

brass band in the world. Or I could take her to the local food bank

:50:38.:50:43.

which is based in the closed down Conservative Club. What's happening

:50:44.:50:49.

at the moment is since 2010, the Government's closed the local

:50:50.:50:53.

courts, closed the local tax office, the DWP office and the driving

:50:54.:50:58.

centre. Now the Government's intending to close all the tax

:50:59.:51:01.

offices in Wales and centralise them in Cardiff. We feel in the valleys

:51:02.:51:05.

as if we're just ignored by the Government. Can I just beg her to

:51:06.:51:10.

change direction and start putting Government offices in the small

:51:11.:51:13.

towns, villages, valleys of this country? Can I say to the right

:51:14.:51:18.

honourable gentleman, the last time I looked, Cardiff was actually in

:51:19.:51:22.

Wales. He says we're going to take offices away from Wales but we'll

:51:23.:51:27.

put them in Cardiff. I think he might find the whole point about

:51:28.:51:33.

what the HMRC is doing is they are taking, moving from outdated offices

:51:34.:51:37.

to large, modern, regional centres. That will make it possible for them

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to modernise their ways of working, make tax collection more efficient

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and improve customer services by HMRC. I welcome my right honourable

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friend's speech for a global Britain. It shows you are list why

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enning to this side of the House. The council leaders considering the

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grater Manchester framework consultation responses as they

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listen to the people, give us better infrastructure and protect our green

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spaces. I thank my honourable friend for his comments and raising the

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issue. The con siltation -- consultation closed earlier this

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week. There has been a huge amount of interest from local people. I

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echo his comment sayings local leaders should take all

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representations into account. In the UK, we have 14 regional markets for

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electricity disprobe Ewingses. Highlanders and islanders are facing

:52:52.:52:57.

higher charges. They are an eye watering 84% higher than

:52:58.:53:00.

distributary bugs charges for London. Will the Prime Minister

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introduce a universal market for electricity pricing. Those of us who

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live in the coldest windiest place are are diskrilled against by her

:53:13.:53:18.

Government and it must end. The honourable gentleman draws attention

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to the fact of course geography has an impact on these matters. He talks

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about living in the coldest and windiest place. One of the issues

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that's interesting to look at in relation to Scotland is the whoa

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question of renewables and the opportunities for renewables. I can

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tell him we are looking at the impact... We are looking at making

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sure... We are looking at making sure energy markets in the UK are

:53:51.:53:55.

indeed working properly. I'm very pleased the Prime Minister has said

:53:56.:53:59.

she will take the necessary action on air quality to deal with the

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40,000 premature deaths it causes across our country every year. As I

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know she believes in her Government leading by example, will she make

:54:10.:54:13.

sure that all diesel cars are removed from the Government car

:54:14.:54:21.

service as soon as possible? My honourable friend is right,

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improving air quality is a priority for this Government. We are

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determined to cut harmful emissions. We've committed money since 2011 to

:54:30.:54:33.

supporting the take-up of low-emission vehicles. The

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Government car service is working to remove diesel cars from its fleet.

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It has replaced a quarter and this work conditions to remove diesel

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vehicles. Is the Prime Minister aware that I totally agree with what

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she said yesterday. It is the job of people in this... Wait for it...

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LAUGHTER We in this House have a real responsibility for our children

:55:00.:55:03.

and grandchildren to have a bright future. But is she aware there are

:55:04.:55:09.

dark clouds looming on the horizon in terms of intolerance, racism

:55:10.:55:13.

across Europe and the foundering and flux of many of our great

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institutions that have kept peace and prosperity since the last world

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war. I speak of the in UN, Nato and indeed the European Union. Are we

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fit for purpose in keeping this country safe, secure in that ward?

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-- world. I recognise the important issue that the right honourable

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gentleman raised in this area. It is pro sighsly as we move out of the

:55:40.:55:44.

European Union, the UK will be more outward looking. We want to ensure

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we play our part in the UN. That the UN itself is able to do the job that

:55:50.:55:57.

everybody wants it to do. Nato has been the most important bull washing

:55:58.:56:02.

in terms of maintaining safety and security across the European

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continent. That's why we're continuing to support Nato. British

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troops are in Estonia. British Forces in Poland, Romania,

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continuing to show our commitment to Nato. The thrust of my speech

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yesterday was we want a strong, strat edgic partnership with the

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European Union. That access to the single market, that free trade

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agreement but to continue to work with them on justice and security

:56:28.:56:32.

matters. Now is not a time to cooperate less, it is a time to

:56:33.:56:40.

cooperate more. Delighted the third round replay where Sutton united won

:56:41.:56:44.

against Wimbledon. The pressing issue is to be able to get into work

:56:45.:56:51.

on a day-to-day basis. Does the Prime Minister welcome the talks

:56:52.:56:55.

between Aslef and Southern to finding a solution for hard pressed

:56:56.:57:01.

commuters? As a former Wimbledon councillor, I am anot sure I share

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the enthusiasm for the defeat of AFC Wimbledon. On the point about train

:57:07.:57:10.

strikes, yes, I do. I hope those sitting around the table will

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enensure we see an agreement reached which enables passengers to get on

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with their lives, their jobs and not suffer the misery brought about by

:57:20.:57:24.

the strike in the first place. Can I agree with the Prime Minister and

:57:25.:57:28.

disagree with the last member about the reference to last night's

:57:29.:57:33.

meeting and AFC's results. If the Prime Minister really believes that

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GP surgeries should be open seven days a week, 12 hours a day, would

:57:40.:57:44.

she be my guest at a meeting against Department of Health diktat which

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will close a 6,000 strong surgery. Even better, could she just tell her

:57:49.:57:54.

Government to stop cuts to GP Ps Sir verieses which force thousands to

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attend hard pressed A's like St George's and St Helier or is she

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happy to see the poisible collapse of the NHS on her watch? I might

:58:06.:58:09.

remind the honourable lady, she and I sat on a council together where we

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tried to keep Wimbledon playing in Wimbledon other at least in Murton.

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GPs are part of the solution in terms of the NHS for the future.

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We've seen more GPs coming into the NHS. Something like 5,000 more GPs

:58:29.:58:34.

being trained and will be in place by 2020. But what we do want to

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ensure is that GPs are open and providing the services at times when

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the patients want to access them. Mr Speaker, it was quite clear from the

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Prime Minister's speech yesterday that she seeks to build a Brexit

:58:48.:58:52.

consensus and to bring our country back together. I thank her for that.

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To that end, and to strengthen the Prime Minister's negotiating hand,

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before Article 50 is triggered, would she please considerate least

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publishing all those 12 objectives in a White Paper so that we can

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debate them here in this place on behalf of all our constituents? My

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honourable friend is right. I absolutely understand the point she

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raised about Parliament's desire to be able to debate those objectives

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which I set out in the plan yesterday. One of the objectives,

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one of the principles was about certainly and clarity. It continues

:59:35.:59:38.

to be the Government's intention that we will provide clarity

:59:39.:59:43.

whenever it is possible and we will ensure that at appropriate times

:59:44.:59:47.

both the public and Parliament are kept informed and are able to

:59:48.:59:51.

consider and properly scrutinise these issues. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

:59:52.:59:59.

While dedicated and talented staff at the royal Liverpool hospital's

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A department struggle to find beds for sick people, around 135 patients

:00:05.:00:10.

are unable to be discharged solely because of Government cuts to social

:00:11.:00:16.

care. When will the Government recognise its responsibilities and

:00:17.:00:21.

not try to blame GPs for a problem of the Government's own making?

:00:22.:00:29.

There is a pressure on social care. I accept that and recognised this in

:00:30.:00:33.

this House. That's why the Government's recognised it and put

:00:34.:00:38.

improved funding through the better care fund and social care

:00:39.:00:44.

pre-September. Liverpool raced ?8 million and they'll receive ?48

:00:45.:00:49.

million from the better care fund by 2019/20. This isn't just a question

:00:50.:00:53.

of money. It is ensuring we have a sustainable social care system for

:00:54.:00:57.

the future. That's what the Government's working on. Could I

:00:58.:01:04.

commend by right honourable friend for her remarks yesterday, not least

:01:05.:01:10.

the constructive terms to the future of the EU in marked difference from

:01:11.:01:13.

others over the years. Would she confirm that constructive tone will

:01:14.:01:19.

remain as the best base for getting an agreement between ourselves and

:01:20.:01:24.

the EU and the default position of no deal will remain a default

:01:25.:01:30.

position and not the Government's default position? Absolutely. We

:01:31.:01:33.

want to get that good deal and expect to be able to get that good

:01:34.:01:38.

deal. It is right that it is through goodwill and a positive approach on

:01:39.:01:43.

both sides of these negotiations we will achieve that. I'm clear the UK

:01:44.:01:48.

wants to see a continuing strong European Union of 27 member states.

:01:49.:01:54.

We want to have a strong, strategic partnership with that Europon and

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continue to work bilaterally with individual states. I made this point

:01:58.:02:01.

to a number of European Union leaders yesterday when I spoke to

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them after my speech, we want to approach this in a positive and

:02:06.:02:09.

optimistic fashion. I believe a deal that is good for the UK, will be a

:02:10.:02:13.

deal that is good for the European Union. This week, the national

:02:14.:02:20.

auditor revealed the abject failures in the con accept tricks fiasco

:02:21.:02:23.

which resulted in thousands of people wrongly denied their tax

:02:24.:02:29.

credits. This was not one rogue contractors but a system designed by

:02:30.:02:33.

Government to pursue and chase down claimants for profit. So, does the

:02:34.:02:39.

Prime Minister agree with the Chief Executive of HMRC that payment by

:02:40.:02:44.

ruts has no -- results has no mace in our welfare system. Will she

:02:45.:02:48.

review this model or will she wait for the next scandal to hit

:02:49.:02:54.

vulnerable people? I recognise many people received a poor service. It

:02:55.:02:58.

is not the first time this has been highlighted in this chamber this was

:02:59.:03:03.

not acceptable. I apologise for the poury and stress caused for people.

:03:04.:03:06.

We have been clear about that service. HMRC will learn the lessons

:03:07.:03:12.

from that contract. They remain committed to providing a high

:03:13.:03:18.

quality service. It will not use a private sector service to undertakes

:03:19.:03:25.

tax or fraud checks again. Further to the question from my honourable

:03:26.:03:30.

friend, the Prime Minister did yesterday confirm her commitment to

:03:31.:03:36.

parliamentary democracy. Therefore, I assume she accepts the long

:03:37.:03:39.

standing convention that the he can he can tiff, the Government, is

:03:40.:03:46.

continuously accountable to this House for the policies that she is

:03:47.:03:51.

pursuing. Can she clarify whether or not she intends to make any further

:03:52.:03:55.

statements of policy intentions to this House and whether she

:03:56.:03:58.

anticipates this House having an opportunity to vote its approval for

:03:59.:04:03.

those policies earlier than two years away when the whole

:04:04.:04:09.

negotiation has been completed? My right honourable friend raises a

:04:10.:04:14.

matter that not only our honourable friend has raised but others as

:04:15.:04:19.

well. If I can simply make this point. Yesterday, my right

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honourable, the Secretary of State for exiting the European Union came

:04:26.:04:29.

here and answered questions for two hours. There is a further general

:04:30.:04:35.

debate on exiting the European Union matters taking place today. There

:04:36.:04:38.

have been a number of these do Bates already looking at the issues which

:04:39.:04:42.

are part of the objectives we have set. We will have to consider the

:04:43.:04:47.

result of the decision of the Supreme Court which may, if it goes

:04:48.:04:51.

against the Government, require legislation to be brought before

:04:52.:04:55.

this House. There will be an opportunity in the great wee peat

:04:56.:05:01.

bill to look at issues around the exiting the I the the EU. We can't

:05:02.:05:05.

vote on the deal until we know what the deal is. Parliament will have a

:05:06.:05:11.

vote when we know what that deal is. The Prime Minister's passing

:05:12.:05:14.

reference to the interests of Spanish fishermen in her speech

:05:15.:05:18.

yesterday let the cat out of the bag that our fishing opportunities are

:05:19.:05:22.

already on the table as a bargaining tool before the Brexit negotiations

:05:23.:05:25.

have even started. What does the Prime Minister want to offer the

:05:26.:05:31.

Spanish fishermen? I made a very simple point yesterday which is that

:05:32.:05:35.

negotiation is not just about the UK. There will be others in the

:05:36.:05:40.

European Union who will be looking for ensheering the deal we get is

:05:41.:05:44.

good for the UK and for the European Union. I have to say to the

:05:45.:05:51.

honourable lady, if she thinks continued membership of the common

:05:52.:05:56.

fishers policy is not the case and one of the things we will vote

:05:57.:06:02.

against. The people of Stafford shirt and Stoke-on-Trent are being

:06:03.:06:07.

confronted with the possible loss of emergency services in Stafford or

:06:08.:06:11.

Burton when our Acute Hospitals are under intense pressure. Would the

:06:12.:06:17.

Prime Minister agree with me and others that closing A is no way

:06:18.:06:22.

to deal with increased, real, not imagined, need. I would say to my

:06:23.:06:29.

honourable friend, the important issue is the level of service

:06:30.:06:33.

available for people in a local area. That's why the sustainability

:06:34.:06:39.

and transformation plans being published are taking into account

:06:40.:06:44.

and are being considered at a local level for local clinicians and local

:06:45.:06:47.

people to agree what is best in their particular area. Mr Speaker,

:06:48.:06:53.

last Friday I went to Blackpool Victoria Hospital where the number

:06:54.:06:57.

of people waiting 12 hours or more in A doubled last year. 100 of

:06:58.:07:04.

them aged 90 or over. Trust managers said the biggest factor is dig

:07:05.:07:08.

charging people. Government cuts erodele support for them. Will she

:07:09.:07:13.

stop waffling about her shared society, listen to her own budget

:07:14.:07:18.

watchdog saying we'll need ?30 billion from older people in the

:07:19.:07:22.

next ten years and put that money into local adult care and the NHS?

:07:23.:07:29.

Well, just looking at the figures for what has happened for health in

:07:30.:07:35.

his particular area, there are more doctors and significantly more

:07:36.:07:41.

nurses in his NHS Foundation Trust. I know what the honourable gentleman

:07:42.:07:44.

is talking about. I'm about to comment on it! But the honourable

:07:45.:07:54.

lady who is shouting from a sedentary position might have

:07:55.:07:57.

recognised he started talking about the NHS which is what I'm also

:07:58.:08:00.

commenting on. THE SPEAKER: Order. I'm not having

:08:01.:08:07.

an exchange across the dispatch box. Order. The Prime Minister was asked

:08:08.:08:12.

a question. Order! I require no help from the honourable gentleman which

:08:13.:08:17.

is of zilch value! The Prime Minister will answer and she will be

:08:18.:08:22.

heard with courtesy, including by the honourable gentleman. The Prime

:08:23.:08:26.

Minister The honourable gentleman asked me about pressures on the

:08:27.:08:31.

national health service. We are sighing more doctors and nurses in

:08:32.:08:35.

his hospitals Foundation Trust and he health funding in the honourable

:08:36.:08:41.

gentleman's area will be ?3 billion this year rising with a further 450

:08:42.:08:46.

million by 2021. In terms of the issue of social care, as I said in

:08:47.:08:51.

this House before, we are putting extra money into social care, giving

:08:52.:08:55.

local authorities the opportunity to raise more money and spend it on

:08:56.:08:58.

social care. This is not just about more money. It is about ensuring

:08:59.:09:02.

best practise is spread throughout the country. About a long-term

:09:03.:09:06.

solution to sustainable social care for the future. An issue ducked by

:09:07.:09:11.

Governments, including a Labour Government for 13 years. On Friday,

:09:12.:09:17.

the east coast of England faced threat of a tidal surge that

:09:18.:09:21.

endangered tens of thousands of homes and thousands of lives. A

:09:22.:09:26.

simple change in the weather meant flooding was averted. Will the Prime

:09:27.:09:30.

Minister join me in praising the response of the emergency services

:09:31.:09:36.

planning ahead, involving the army coastguard, the Fire Service and the

:09:37.:09:40.

ambulance and police to make sure the best possible plans were made

:09:41.:09:44.

and will she further join with me in making sure the public know these

:09:45.:09:49.

warnings, in future, should always be taken seriously? My honourable

:09:50.:09:55.

friend raises an important point. I'm happy to commend the action of

:09:56.:10:01.

all those in the emergency service, Armed Forces, and local authorities

:10:02.:10:05.

who worked so hard to make sure this problem, a change in weather took

:10:06.:10:09.

place, but it is absolutely crucial that when these warnings are given,

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people recognise they are given for a very good reason, because there is

:10:15.:10:17.

a concern about the danger that could take place. The efforts put in

:10:18.:10:22.

protected tens of thousands of properties. I'm pleased to see the

:10:23.:10:27.

work we have learned from previous flooding incidents, the work between

:10:28.:10:32.

emergency services, local services and the Armed Forces was much better

:10:33.:10:36.

coordinated than perhaps has been in the past. We've been able to learn

:10:37.:10:42.

from flooding in the past. Mr Speaker, in response to the

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honourable member for Broxtow the Prime Minister talked about her

:10:49.:10:51.

desire to give clarity around our exit of the EU. Many of my

:10:52.:10:56.

constituency yentas are paying taxes. What assurances can she give

:10:57.:11:01.

them about their future. Particularly if they change their

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employer or are freelancers? What I said yesterday is about the

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guaranteeing of rights for EU citizens living here in the UK. I

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want to see the rights of UK citizens living in the 27 member

:11:18.:11:21.

states being given guarantees as well. I encourage others across

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Europe to agree this is an issue we should look at at an early stage and

:11:28.:11:31.

as early a stage as possible in order to give people the confidence

:11:32.:11:37.

and reassurance she is looking for. ? Supporting my right honourable

:11:38.:11:46.

gentlemen in social care and the Health Service, can she endorse the

:11:47.:11:52.

confidence in our hospitals in market towns across the country.

:11:53.:11:56.

They provide a vital piece of the jigsaw in our NHS such as the

:11:57.:12:02.

Westminster memorial in stats brie? I'm sure as my honourable friend

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says, the Westminster memorial in Shaftesbury is providing good

:12:08.:12:11.

services for local people. What the structure of the local services

:12:12.:12:14.

should be is a matter for discussion at local level. It is crucial local

:12:15.:12:19.

clinicians agree and others agree we have a safe and secure service for

:12:20.:12:25.

people. They are provided within the NHS services they need at the most

:12:26.:12:31.

appropriate level. I accept very often we think only of major

:12:32.:12:36.

District General Hospitals and acute hospitals but the NHS is made up of

:12:37.:12:42.

different parts. Patients need to be treated at the most appropriate

:12:43.:12:48.

level for their needs. How can aband onning membership of the customs

:12:49.:12:54.

union that thaws 68% of Wales' exports, crucially 90% of our food

:12:55.:12:59.

and drink exports and supports 200,000 jobs cause any other than

:13:00.:13:05.

calamitous self-harm? What we will be doing is negotiating a free trade

:13:06.:13:09.

agreement with the European Union to get the best possible access for

:13:10.:13:15.

trade. We also want to be able to negotiate trade agreements with

:13:16.:13:18.

other countries around the world. A number of countries have already

:13:19.:13:22.

expressed interest in doing that. We want to open up, see new export

:13:23.:13:25.

markets being delivered for businesses here in the UK, including

:13:26.:13:28.

for the sort of trade that he's talking about in Wales. In the

:13:29.:13:33.

customs aspect with the European Union, we want to have an

:13:34.:13:39.

arrangement with them to have as frictionless borders as possible.

:13:40.:13:47.

Were Prime Minister's Questions comes to an end there.

:13:48.:13:54.

He began with some process about the role of Parliament in the Brexit

:13:55.:14:00.

process, saying the Prime Minister should have made the speech before

:14:01.:14:04.

Parliament rather than at Lancaster house yesterday and called her the

:14:05.:14:09.

irony lady. He then moved on to matters of substance about access to

:14:10.:14:14.

the single market. The Prime Minister through that back in his

:14:15.:14:17.

face. About how much we would be paying there, we'll come on to that

:14:18.:14:24.

in a minute. Finished up by talking about health as well. I'm not sure

:14:25.:14:29.

this took us any further forward but will go through it nonetheless.

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First, let's find out what you made of it. This view of those please

:14:37.:14:40.

explain to me the difference between a freak trade deal with the EU and

:14:41.:14:45.

access to the single market. No wonder people find so is confusing.

:14:46.:14:50.

Another viewer, Mrs May continues to take the best possible deal for

:14:51.:14:54.

Britain, it's meaningless to say so any substance to substantiate her

:14:55.:15:01.

statement. Another viewer says, Mrs May, not rattled by a lightweight

:15:02.:15:05.

Jeremy Corbyn but he tick-macro she was by Angus Robertson who shows a

:15:06.:15:13.

credible opposition to the Tories. Another viewer, two questions on why

:15:14.:15:16.

Theresa May didn't bring her speech to Parliament first, no one cares,

:15:17.:15:20.

cut the stuff that matter to ordinary people. There's no point

:15:21.:15:23.

asking her how much frictionless access will cost, she can't know,

:15:24.:15:29.

the question is how much issue prepared to pay. Did I miss

:15:30.:15:34.

something? I don't think it's moved us very much further forward in

:15:35.:15:37.

terms of this whole thing. What was interesting was that the Speaker

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called on... Them and Jeremy Corbyn have retreated to asking questions

:15:49.:15:51.

of process. Talking to somebody in that camp yesterday, they felt down,

:15:52.:15:57.

because their main argument has been trying to preserve membership of the

:15:58.:16:01.

single market. That's gone. Theresa May killed that off yesterday. We

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see them instead talking about Parliamentary process today. Ken

:16:07.:16:10.

Clarke asking the question that Jeremy Corbyn tried to ask but

:16:11.:16:13.

didn't quite get there. I think that's quite telling. At the moment

:16:14.:16:17.

they are scratching their heads wondering where to take the fight

:16:18.:16:23.

next. Another question that came up was the status of European Union

:16:24.:16:28.

citizens currently working here. There's a lot of uncertainties, some

:16:29.:16:31.

of them don't know what's going to happen, they would like clarity. Why

:16:32.:16:35.

doesn't the British government turn around and say, if you are an EU

:16:36.:16:39.

citizen, working here, you and your family are welcome and will have the

:16:40.:16:43.

right to stay here for as long as you want? In .7 of her speech

:16:44.:16:48.

yesterday she said as soon as she is able to do that and as soon as other

:16:49.:16:53.

EU countries guarantee the same rights for UK nationals... You're

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making them a bargaining chip when you say we are only going to do it

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when we understand the rest of Europe is going to do it. Why would

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we not take the high ground or, just to be pragmatic in laying the fizz

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of these people, who have come here to work and brought their families,

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just as they we hope that Europe treats are people well, too, but

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whatever they do we are treating you well, why went you do that? Their

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importance is underlined by the fact they've got their own place in the

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Prime Minister's speech. She said, we value the contribution of EU

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nationals... So why not give them clarity? So they are a bargaining

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chip? We've got to have the same clarity for UK nationals. Why? So

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you are making the EU citizens here a bargaining chip in the

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negotiations? It is important we have reciprocity. The same rights we

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want to be able to give the EU nationals are available to UK

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nationals living in the European Union. This line we have quite a lot

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from Mr Corbyn about a race to the bottom, and of what he regards as

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the low tax economy, low regulation. He said, if you reduce corporation

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tax to the lowest common denominator, I assume by that he

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means to the low levels you may get in Ireland, Singapore, this country

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loses ?120 billion in revenue. Do you agree with that? I think what

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he's trying to say is that there is a vision hinted at by Philip

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Hammond, that the UK could somehow become a tax haven off the coast of

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Europe. Or a low tax economy, that's different. Philip Hammond was

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clearly signalling we would be prepared to have a very different

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type of economy in this country to one that we've ever had previously.

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How do we lose ?120 billion in revenues if we slash corporation

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tax? Philip Hammond was talking about... I'm asking you about what

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Mr Corbyn asked the Prime Minister. What we are trying to say is that

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the vision for the UK economy, which looks like a tax haven off the coast

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of Europe, is something we will oppose. How could we lose ?120

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billion, if we slash corporation tax? When total corporation tax

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revenues are under ?50 billion? He said, if you reduce corporation tax

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to the lowest common denominator, not get rid of it all together but

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make it really low, the country loses ?120 billion. How can you lose

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that if it is at under ?50 billion? Jeremy says he doesn't want to undo

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the way our economy has functioned since the Second World War... What's

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the answer to my question? This is an economy that supports our public

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services, the taxation that pays that our public health services,

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that's very important. We oppose getting rid of that. The figures

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don't add up. In what way would be more like Singapore be a race to the

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bottom? If we change the economic consensus that we've had in this

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country, which supports our public services, it provides the tax

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revenue... Why would be like Singapore be a race to the bottom?

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There are pensions, our health services, our free education system,

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free health care at the point of need... Those other things we enjoy

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in this country. Do you know what per capita incomes are in Singapore?

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Per capita incomes in Singapore are $80,000 per year. They are $42,000

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in the UK. They've got the second highest life expense seat in the

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world, much higher than Britain. Unemployment is 2% -- second highest

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life expectancy. Why is that a race to the bottom? Singapore is a very

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different society. Labour says that's what you have in mind. We

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want to protect our public services and we want proper investment. We've

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had a big debate about social care, about local government, about the

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health service. You cannot provide those services in the way that this

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country has enjoyed, in the way we say we want to continue to enjoy, if

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you fundamentally change the economic... Would be being more like

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Singapore, given the statistics, be a race to the bottom? I think it

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would be. To have the second highest life expectancy in the world? We are

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a very different country. We have high unemployment and lower per

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capita income! We've got Boris Johnson's remarks. One of the

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disappointing fact is that in the last 25 years, since the dawn of the

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single market, it's other countries including India, that have done

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better at exporting into the single market than we in the UK have. We

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have no terrors about this prospect. I think if Mr Mr Mr Hollande wants

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to issue punishment beatings, I don't think that is the way forward.

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Actually it's not in the interest of our friends and our partners. Why

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pick a fight with the French President who won't even be there

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after May? I think it's good the Foreign Secretary is in India

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promoting trade deals but he's making the same point as the Prime

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Minister. It's in no 1's interest for the EU to reintroduce tariffs or

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other barriers to trade... President land isn't even running again. --

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President Hollande. Why pick a fight with someone who will be essentially

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irrelevant come the negotiations? He's reinforcing the Prime

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Minister's point which is that it's in Europe's interests and our

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interests to get a deal along the lines of the 12 point she sat out so

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powerfully yesterday. Thank you very much.

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Now, when he became speaker eight years ago, John Bercow said

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That foolish hostage to fortune has set all sorts of hares running,

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and the race is now well and truly on to replace him.

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Now, Mr Bercow could just decide not to stand down next year,

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but that hasn't stopped us fuelling the speculation.

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Everyone knows he does more than just tell MPs off.

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THE SPEAKER: The Prime Minister has finished and he can take it

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They'd be big non-ceremonial shoes to fill, so who could do it?

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An MP who's just as comfortable having a go at the PM

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Let me indulge in the floxiknockinhilapipification

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Of course, convention says the next Speaker should be

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I don't know what I want to do next week, let alone in a year's time.

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The Deputy Speaker Lindsay Hoyle's name has also been in the frame.

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But then he'd no longer be the voice of the balls, the man who draws

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215 will cross-reference the member's name to the number.

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Douglas Carswell, Ukip's only MP has been cited as a possible suitor

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Maybe it's his ability to keep other politicians

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brief, to the point and, above all, prescient.

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If the British people vote to leave the European Union,

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will the Prime Minister remain in office to implement

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But the man most likely to be Speaker this time next year...

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A fizz of excitement, here in the studio!

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Ellie there with the runners and riders.

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But who's the favourite to replace Speaker Bercow?

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Jessica Bridge of the bookmakers Ladbrokes is outside Parliament.

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Give us the odds! Good afternoon. Jacob Rees-Mogg is the favourite at

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the moment with odds of 6-4. He is being touted as a very good speaker

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to replace John Bercow. That's why he's in there as the favourite. He

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does appeal to both sides of the party. He's been described as a man

:25:57.:26:00.

of the people which I'm not sure I get personally! I don't know many

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right wing Etonians who wed double-breasted suits in 2017! Then

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Chris Bryant, he's probably going to struggle a bit because he needs to

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appeal to more than his own party. He did make that gaffe about Kiss a

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Ginger Day. Lindsay Hoyle is obviously the main Deputy Speaker

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right now. He's very popular, he's got across both sides of the House.

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Ladbrokes are going to be keeping a close eye on him. He's not an

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outsider, he's not an underdog, but he's definitely the one we need to

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keep an eye on. Thank you very much for that. Who do you fancy as the

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next speaker? There's no way I'm answering that! Why not?! Offending

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your colleagues isn't the best way to spend an afternoon. It's hard to

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remove a speaker who doesn't want to be removed. We'll probably be where

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exactly we are now in a year's time. I surprised Jacob Rees-Mogg is the

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favourite? Jacob has the character to fill the role but John Bercow has

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been the most extraordinary speaker. He may not be a giant of a man

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physically but he's filled the space in the most extraordinary way. Do

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you think you'll definitely go? At some point! He said he would go

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after a certain amount of time. He doesn't have to actually go. What

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about Lindsay Hoyle? He is very popular, isn't he? He is, he'd be a

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great candidate. He has shown himself to be able to manage the

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really tricky big parliamentary occasions with great skill and

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humour. I think he'll be a very popular choice. I then understand

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why his odds are so low. Convention, does that mean it should be Labour's

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turn? I think this is up for grabs. It's a matter for the House to

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determine. Let's put you out of your misery and give you the answer. It

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was 2012. There was some great music in that film as well. Toby Simmons

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from Orpington. Well done! The News At One is starting

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over on BBC One now. Jo is going off to Strasbourg so I

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will be here on my own, working hard as usual as she gallivant around

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Strasbourg! Goodbye.

:28:53.:28:57.

Andrew Neil and Jo Coburn with live coverage of Prime Minister's Questions. Andrew and Jo are joined by minister of state for universities Jo Johnson MP and Jenny Chapman MP, shadow minister for exiting the European Union. Includes analysis of Tuesday's Brexit speech by Theresa May and discussion around who might be the next Speaker of the House of Commons.

The Guess the Year competition closes at 12.30pm during the live broadcast of this programme.


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