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Hello, and welcome to The Daily Politics.

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She said she'd walk away from a bad deal with the EU,

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and Theresa May certainly has a spring in her step

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after yesterday's big Brexit speech, as her Brexit Secretary said this

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morning "why on earth could it go wrong?"

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Theresa May confirmed we would be out of the Single Market

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and no longer full members of the customs union.

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But what will our future trading relationship be with the EU

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And Theresa May will face MPs for the first time

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since her speech yesterday, we'll bring you PMQs live

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And the Speaker said he'd retire next year,

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who'll be pulled oh-so-reluctantly to the speakers chair once

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All that in the next 90 minutes of the very finest public

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And it's such an honour to appear on this programme, that our two

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guests had to keep up what I can only assume is the pretence

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of being reluctantly dragged into the studio this morning.

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With us the Universities and Science Minister,

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Jo Johnson, and Shadow Brexit Minister, Jenny Chapman.

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So it's the morning after the big speech, and Number Ten will no doubt

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They might be encouraged by some of today's front pages.

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The Daily Mail hails the speech as "momentous",

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and calls the Prime Minister as "the new Iron Lady".

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The Daily Telegraph describes the speech as "bold",

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picking up on the line that the UK might walk away if

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The Times warns the EU not to try and punish the UK for Brexit,

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saying that Britain could change its economic model and lure

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The Daily Mirror chimes in on the same theme,

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calling it May's "Brexit ultimatum: give us a deal...or we'll walk".

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While the Sun has coined the new phrase "Brexodus".

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And the Guardian leads with "May's Brexit threat to Europe".

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What about the political reaction here in the UK?

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Well, MPs had a chance to express their views

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in the Commons yesterday evening, here's a flavour of some

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I think we should loyally support the Government.

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In 45 minutes, the Prime Minister hasn't delivered a plan.

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Let's talk of just one example raised by my colleague,

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She said she wants us to leave the common commercial policy

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and the common external tariff, but to have associate membership

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A membership that doesn't yet exist, and nobody else has.

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Can the Secretary of State tell us exactly what this means now,

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for the deals like the Nissan deal, on which thousands

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Or simply, what cake is it that he wants

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My right honourable friend, I'm sure, would acknowledge

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that the Prime Minister's speech is principled, is reasonable,

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My right honourable friend in his speech made clear that no

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In the unlikely, I'm sure, event that we were to get a bad deal,

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and the House were to vote against it, what would be the impact

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in terms of our status with the European Union?

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What I don't understand, when reading the Prime Minister's

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statement, or listening to my right honourable friend, is which country

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in the world is going to enter into a trade agreement with this

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country, on the basis that the rules are entirely what the British say

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they are going to be on any particular day, and, if there's any

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dispute about the rules, it's going to be sorted out

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Theresa May's speech had less positive reviews in the European

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press. The German newspaper Die Welt

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compares Theresa May's speech Cinco Dias, a Spanish business

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and finance newspaper, says Theresa May is defying

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the European Union by choosing France's La Tribune echoes that,

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calling her choice a "hard Brexit". This morning, in the European

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Parliament, the President of the European

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Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has given his reaction

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to Theresa May's speech. TRANSLATION: I welcome what the

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Prime Minister of the UK said yesterday. I said yesterday a speech

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alone cannot trigger negotiations. Once the UK has activated Article

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50, the negotiations will start, and they should be concluded within two

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years according to the treaty, the negotiations are going to be of

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great significance to that country but also to the 27 other states. I

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will do everything to make sure the negotiations will be according to

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the rules, and will yield good results. That was the President of

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the commission Jean-Claude Juncker. We're joined now from Berlin

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by Daniel-Dylan Bohmer Welcome to The Daily Politics.

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Theresa May says she wants the UK to be outside the single market but to

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still have the best possible access to it. How has the speech gone down

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in Germany? I would say in general, we are somewhat relieved that there

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seems to be clarity now in London as for the cause that Theresa May's

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government wants to take on those negotiations. Because lately there

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has been the impression that the Brexit situation in the UK could

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turn into chaos, that could potentially last forever. So, we are

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happy here to see that there is a course she wants to take. As for the

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nitty-gritty of what she said, I think some people here can't

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understand that she is actually aiming for a hard Brexit, because we

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thought that having even closer relationship with the European Union

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would do better for Britain and the European Union. I think then there

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are some who look at the words she said, and in particular staying

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outside the common market, while having prime access to it. That

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seems to us to be some kind of contradiction that is hard to

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swallow for us. Except she says, if she doesn't get that or something

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fairly close, she called it calamitous self harm. In other

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words, German car manufacturers, German businesses, will suffer just

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as much. What's been the reaction to that? Well, that of course is a

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valid point, here. That's why in particular the chancellery has aimed

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at negotiations likely to get the softest possible version of a hard

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Brexit. Remember two things. For once, German business, including,

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new factories, where rather relaxed on the props -- on the prospect of

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Brexit, even before it was clear what kind of Brexit London was

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aiming for. There was a survey done of major German companies a few

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weeks ago showing that less than 10% think there could be strong negative

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effects on their business. German business in general is relaxed on

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that. Even though Angela Merkel recently appealed to German

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business, to show a united front with EU governments in negotiations

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over Britain's departure, urging them to support the principle of

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full access to the single market only in exchange for signing up to

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the four freedoms. That seems to demonstrate she's worried that

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German business would be prepared to give Britain exactly what it once,

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because it wouldn't want to have a negative affect on their own

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industries. Angela Merkel can't afford for that to happen

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politically. Well, that is definitely the case. On the other

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hand, we have seen her acting as a very principled politician, not only

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on moral grounds, but because she seems to fundamentally believe that

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a policy can only work if it fundamentally in itself makes sense.

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I think there's a sense here that whatever deal there is with the

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Brits, there can't be a deal that puts into question the validity of

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the core European liberties and freedoms. Because, of course, there

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is a danger of contagion, if Europe gives Britain a deal that is too

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soft, it could be a temptation to other countries to leave the

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European Union. I think with the French elections ahead, where the

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National Front has a clear chance to have someone from its own ranks as a

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President and hold a referendum of its own, I think the cohesion of the

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European Union and the future of the EU, that is a prime priority for

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everyone here in Germany. That does include German business and German

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companies. Very interesting to talk you, thank you.

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Jo Johnson, the government committed to publish some sort of plan before

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Article 50 was triggered. We heard the speech of today, is that it?

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This is a strong plan that sets out our negotiating objectives. We can

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see from the welcome offered from the business community and countries

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such as Germany, is its welcome but we now know what our clear

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objectives are... I want to clarify a couple of things before we come

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onto some of the substance. There won't be a white paper now? This is

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the plan, it's a strong, 12 point plan that sets out how the

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government sees success. So it's on the basis of the text of Mrs May's

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speech that you will trigger Article 50? It is, this is a clear

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annunciation... Forgive me, but... This is the basis on which will be

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triggering Article 50. I'm trying to get some clarity on the process. It

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is interesting on this. When you come to trigger Article 50, if there

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is to be a vote in Parliament, we wait on the Supreme Court ruling,

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will that be a simple one clause Bill that this House votes to

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trigger Article 50? That is prejudging the judgment... We can't

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get ahead of ourselves. But if it is, what will you do? That's the

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government to determine in light of any judgment from the Supreme Court.

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So you don't know? It's not for me to pre-empt the judgment. I'm simply

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asking if the Supreme Court rules against you, which is widely

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expected, will you then bring forward legislation that cannot be

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amended? It's that the government to set that out in the light of the

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judgment. What the Prime Minister made clear again was that the

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government will be triggering Article 50 by the end of March. And

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in a sense, this is as good as it gets, isn't it? This is the

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negotiating position. It now has to go into negotiations, no matter how

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good, you never get everything you want. So whatever we end up with

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will be less than what Mrs May outlined yesterday. I think this is

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a really strong foundation for a negotiation. We set out clearly what

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success looks like. I think people can be reassured that it means the

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greatest possible access to the single market, while not being

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constrained by the jurisdiction of the European Court, while having

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control over immigration and those sorts of things which were so

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important in the referendum. I'm just trying to get a broad position.

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David Davis said on the today programme's this morning that there

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wouldn't be a single vote as the process goes on, there would be a

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series of fights on major law changes before ratification. What

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did he mean by that? I think David Davis set out clearly yesterday how

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this process will unfold. Parliament will have a say over the deal, it

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will be a vote in both houses of Parliament. There will be a role for

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MPs in this process. He said that there wouldn't be a single vote, now

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he's saying there will be a vote at the very end, but there would be a

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series of fights on major law changes before ratification. What

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does that mean? -- series of votes. The government has set out its plan

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to enact a great repeal bill which will bring into legislation those

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rules and regulations we want to continue to have effect in this

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country after we leave the EU. That process will itself of course

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require votes in Parliament. In addition to the votes which the

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Prime Minister promised yesterday. I thought that was to simply transfer

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existing European law on to British law, and then after ratification you

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could take your time to decide what you're going to keep and what you

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won't. You going to change some of these laws before we leave? The

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government has set out its plans to... Do you change that before we

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leave or not? Before we leave or afterwards? I put the idea was to

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move these laws onto the British statute book, and then deal with

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them after ratification of our leaving. Are we now saying some of

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that will be changed before we leave? I think David Davis was

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making clear that the plans the government has set out with a great

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repeal Bill will be carried forward and will require votes in

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Parliament. Your boss Keir Starmer said yesterday the Prime Minister's

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negotiating objectives were broadly on the right lines. We pushed the

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Prime Minister into making this speech, we argued for a plan and

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secured that in the House of Commons just before Christmas. Her response

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has been to provide the speech yesterday, which actually did

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contain the elements that we were requiring of her. We have the vote

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at the end of the process now... I thought it was Labour's position I

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wanted us to remain members of the single market? We think she could

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have been more ambitions to give the negotiations of the single market

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before negotiations start is lacking ambition. Given the spinningle

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market, our membership of it or relationship to it is probably the

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core of everything that is now going to happen. How can the Government

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broadly be on the right lines when it's already admitted we will no

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longer be members of the single market? That's the fascinating

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things. She said yesterday she didn't want to be a member of the

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single market but she clearly indicated in her speech that she

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wanted to have all the elements of membership that we value most. So,

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when we get to unravel what it is she's saying, we're finding her

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ambition is being broadly termed a soft Brexit but the sting in the

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tail is she threatens a hard Brexit should she not get the deal she

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wants. If she gets the deal she outlined yesterday, we can support

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that. We'll come on to more of that in a minute.

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Yesterday, Mr May said after Brexit we will be out of membership of the

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single market. But what else did we learn about our future trading

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relationship with the EU and with the rest of the world? Here's JoCo.

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Theresa May made clear that after Brexit the UK will no longer

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be a member of the single market, the group of European

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countries subject to the free movement of goods, services,

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She also said Britain will no longer be a full member

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of the customs union, where goods can move freely

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between European countries with common tariffs on goods

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Members also have to sign up to the same rules and regulations.

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The Prime Minister wants the UK to strike new free trade

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deals around the world, which customs union membership

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But she said she also wants cross-border trade with Europe to be

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So if the UK is no longer a member of the customs union,

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Theresa May suggested the UK could either be an "associate

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member" of the customs union, or there could be a new form

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She also said she had "an open mind" on the issue,

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suggesting the Government does not yet have a preferred option.

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Northern Ireland shares a border with an EU country,

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and so could need a hard border to carry out customs checks if

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That could be damaging to the peace process.

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Jo Johnson, what's an Osh yacht member of the union? She wants

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frictionless trade between the UK and other members of the European

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Union but, at the same time, the freedom to agree ambitious trade

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deals with the US and India etc. What would an Oshiate member of the

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customs union mean? It would be a bespoke deal for Britain giving us

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the friingsless deals we enjoy with the European Union. No tariffs on

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goods. A strong relagship with the regulatory bodies on the services

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side. We want to maintain that whilst gaining the freedom to strike

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trade deals for Britain around the world. We would have the advantages

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of the customs union with our ability to set our own tariffs and

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trade deals with the rest of the world. How will the rest of Europe

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react to that? It is in both sets of interests to maintain the current

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friingsless trade which remains -- frictionless. It is in neither sets

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of interests. We want to keep that while striking deals around the

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world. If we set our tariffs for the rest of the world, surely there has

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to be some mechanism by which any goods coming to this country moving

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to Europe, the Europeans would have to investigate that? That's what the

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rules of origin are. It could not be friction-free. We'll explore these

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over the months to come. That's the fundamental issue. The goal, as

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great an access as is possible to the single market whilst retaining

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our ab-I will toy to strike trade deals around the world. Do you

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accept if we get a Free Trade Deal with the EU, it cannot by definition

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give us the same degree of access we currently enjoy? We have to start

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with the status quo. It is exceptionally advantageous. We all

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start with the status quo. That's what it means. A strong relationship

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between our regulatory bodies. We don't want to lose that. There's no

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Free Trade Deal as good as the access we currently have? Let's wait

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and see. Why would the Europeans agree to that? If we have access we

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have at the moment, certain conditions come with that we're not

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prepared to pay. Free movement of peoples and capital and so on.

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Clearly, it will be a step down from what we have at the moment? It is

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just a matter of how much? This is to be seen. We want to have as fri

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consider, tionless trade as possible with the European Union, the ability

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to strike trade deals around the world. If we don't want to be a Jude

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Kated by the European Court of Justice but we have a Free Trade

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Deal, what courts would adjudicate on that Free Trade Deal? There are

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various dispute resolutions niches around the world which don't rely on

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the European Court of Justice. They'll be explored during the

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negotiations. There are other mechanisms available, ones we might

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want to create. If we had a Free Trade Deal with the European Union,

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on the European Union side that would be the European Court of

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Justice who would adjudicate? Not necessarily. This has to be thrashed

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out during negotiations. We do not want to be part of the European

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justice going forward. That's key from the referendum. How can we be

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outside the customs union and not have a hard border between the north

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and are you lick of Ireland? Again, the Prime Minister's speech was

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clear... She didn't explain how she could do it. She has the aspiration?

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How do you do it? Work closely with the republic and Northern Ireland

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and make sure there isn't a return of things of the past. I'm asking

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you if we're outside the customs union, how can you achieve that?

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These are the issues we'll work our way through over the next 24, 25

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months. All rye. Jen ise, we talked about the single market before. Are

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we right saying Labour would like to remain in the customs union? We

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would like the unincumbent trade we currently have. Theresa May says we

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can have all the bib fits... Sure, you accept we'll come out of the

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single market though you don't don't support it. It wasn't your position

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but you are in favour the remaining in the customs union contrary to

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what she said yesterday? We want all the benefits of the customs union.

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To get that, you have to be in the customs union. If there was a way of

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achieving in an outside the customs union, which is what the Prime

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Minister said she wants yesterday and what they promise add Nissan,

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free and unincumbent trade, let's look at that. It is an incredibly

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hard task to achieve. Right. But Labour would rather we remained in

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the customs union but we couldn't pursue free trade deals across the

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world? It would make it incredibly difficult. That is the challenge,

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putting it lightly, that we have. If that's Labour position, you are

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happy, or accept we come out of the single market but want to persuade

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the Government to remain in the customs union without the

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opportunity to receive new trade deal, that would be the worst of all

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words. That's not what I said. It is what Theresa May said she could say

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chief yesterday. We don't know how she can pull this off. It would be

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the most incredible feat of diplomacy if she can pull it off. If

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she can't, we're in a very different situation in two years' time when

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you look at the deal. You sound like you don't necessarily think she can,

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it is a very tall order. In we come towards Article 50, the towards the

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type of Brexit Labour doesn't want or think she can achieve, will you

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vote against it? We won't vote against Article 50. We've made that

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clear. What are you going to do? We'll hold the Government to the

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standards it set itself yesterday. How will you stop her coming out of

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the single market or moving towards that? We get a vote. One of the

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things she guaranteed us yesterday is a vote at the end of the process.

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That was a very significant commitment from the Government. If

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the vote is on the final deal and the choice is coming out of the EU

:25:14.:25:19.

without a deal or voting for what's been negotiated even if you don't

:25:20.:25:24.

like it, how would Labour vote? We'd have to look at what's on the table

:25:25.:25:28.

at the time. We will not vote for a hard Brexit at that point. She also

:25:29.:25:34.

said yesterday there would be no cliff edge which suggests

:25:35.:25:37.

transitional arrangements. We would be in a position in two years' time

:25:38.:25:42.

with a transitional arrangement so the choice isn't the Deal or No

:25:43.:25:46.

Deal. Which is an old thing for her to have said yesterday. It would be

:25:47.:25:50.

very have a transitional deal already in place. We can't predict

:25:51.:25:56.

the position of the UK in relation to the EU in two years' time at this

:25:57.:26:03.

early stage. Keir Starmer was asked about Labour's policy on free moment

:26:04.:26:06.

today. He said the rules will have to change. We are not seeking the

:26:07.:26:10.

status quo. Do you want free movement to change? We cant the

:26:11.:26:17.

management to be reasonable. You don't want it to end? We want the

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status quo. That's clear from the British public.

:26:25.:26:28.

Now, the pound might have surged following

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But those techie types at Apple have blamed the UK's weaker currency

:26:31.:26:36.

following the EU referendum for a rise in the price of apps.

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Yes, the California based corporation say they'll increase

:26:40.:26:41.

the prices of their cheapest apps, which currently set you back 79

:26:42.:26:44.

That means it'll be more expensive to play Angry Birds,

:26:45.:26:49.

a favourite of former Prime Minister David Cameron.

:26:50.:26:52.

Candy Crush Saga, Pokemon Go and Minecraft,

:26:53.:26:56.

a favourite of JoCo's, will all cost more too.

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Yes, Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.

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And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here.

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Can Jeremy Corbyn avoid Europe? Of late, he has been going on the

:29:17.:29:23.

subjects which are the subject of day more often. It will be

:29:24.:29:27.

surprising if he choses not to go on Brexit. What angle would he go on?

:29:28.:29:31.

This is where the complication comes in. Forgive me, I've been listening

:29:32.:29:35.

to the last few minutes of the programme. It is not clear to some

:29:36.:29:39.

people on the Labour benches what their position is. What did Keir

:29:40.:29:43.

Starmer really mean when he said Theresa May ruled out a hard Brexit.

:29:44.:29:50.

People say, had she? Did she really? Where's the party's position on

:29:51.:29:53.

freedom of movement. It will be surprising if he doesn't go on

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Brexit. This is such a momentous time. The speech yesterday will be

:29:58.:30:02.

looked at a genuinely important moment in the tangled web of how we

:30:03.:30:06.

extricate ourselves. We're relieved you watched the programme. We

:30:07.:30:10.

thought you were too busy to do that! Nothing else. Blocked it out

:30:11.:30:17.

in my diary. Doubled the ratings in one go. I understand Jo Johnson's

:30:18.:30:23.

brother, other Foreign Secretary's been speaking about the French

:30:24.:30:27.

president? If Jeremy Corbyn were nimble he would have put it to

:30:28.:30:32.

Theresa May. Ghi us the line. This morning, Boris Johnson compared

:30:33.:30:36.

Brexit to some escape from a World War II camp. He said if Mr Hollande

:30:37.:30:42.

wants to administer some punishment beating to anyone trying to escape

:30:43.:30:46.

like in a World War II movie, that is not the way forward. Of course,

:30:47.:30:51.

that is immediately being written up as another one of the Boris Johnson

:30:52.:30:58.

gaffes like the having cake and eating it, all of that. Implicitly,

:30:59.:31:05.

some people are suggesting he's somehow comparing the French to the

:31:06.:31:06.

Germans. Now over the common. Alcohol is a primary factor in

:31:07.:31:36.

domestic violence attacks on women. Does the primers to recognise the

:31:37.:31:41.

seriousness of the country's alcohol problems and the billions of pounds

:31:42.:31:44.

of cost to the public purse and will she instructor government to address

:31:45.:31:49.

these problems effectively and as a matter of urgency? I can certainly

:31:50.:31:53.

say that I recognise the problem is that alcohol causes. He particularly

:31:54.:31:56.

referenced not just problems for pregnant women but also the issue

:31:57.:32:00.

around domestic violence and the part alcohol can often play on

:32:01.:32:05.

domestic violence and abuse. That's why when I was Home Secretary we

:32:06.:32:09.

produced an alcohol strategy, we worked on the issue and the

:32:10.:32:11.

government continues to recognise the importance of this issue and to

:32:12.:32:19.

work on it. Will the Prime Minister join me in paying tribute to the NHS

:32:20.:32:24.

staff who provide us with such magnificent treatment day in, day

:32:25.:32:30.

out? Will she also agree with me that people who miss NHS

:32:31.:32:32.

appointments without cancelling them cost the NHS a great deal of money

:32:33.:32:37.

and also take up slots which would otherwise be used by other patients?

:32:38.:32:42.

Will she consider how she might let those people know of the

:32:43.:32:47.

inconvenience they are causing? My honourable friend makes two

:32:48.:32:50.

important points. I'm pleased to join with him in paying tribute to

:32:51.:32:54.

the dedication and hard work of all those who work in our NHS. Secondly,

:32:55.:33:00.

he is right to point out that if somebody misses an appointment it is

:33:01.:33:06.

a cost on the NHS. There are a number of ways in which this is

:33:07.:33:09.

being dealt with, including in some hospitals sending out text messages

:33:10.:33:14.

reminding people of appointments and telling them how much it costs if

:33:15.:33:17.

they miss that appointment. Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you Mr Speaker. Mr

:33:18.:33:25.

Speaker, yesterday the Prime Minister snubbed Parliament, and

:33:26.:33:34.

snubbed the Brexit committee's recommendations to bring forward a

:33:35.:33:39.

white paper, while at the same time describing the referendum as a vote

:33:40.:33:42.

to restore our Parliamentary democracy. This is about our jobs,

:33:43.:33:50.

living standards and future prosperity. Why will it not be

:33:51.:34:01.

scrutinised by this House? I say to the right honourable gentleman that

:34:02.:34:05.

what I did yesterday was set out a plan for a global Britain. I set out

:34:06.:34:13.

a plan that will put the divisions of last year behind us, that will

:34:14.:34:24.

show a vision... That shows a vision for a stronger, fairer, more united,

:34:25.:34:33.

more outward looking, prosperous, tolerant and independent, truly

:34:34.:34:35.

global Britain. It was a vision which will shape a stronger future

:34:36.:34:41.

and build a better Britain. Mr Speaker. Restoring democracy whilst

:34:42.:34:56.

sidelining Parliament. It's not so much the Iron Lady as the irony

:34:57.:35:12.

lady! Yesterday, Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister finally provided some

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detail. Can I urge her to stop her threat of a bargain basement Brexit,

:35:17.:35:24.

a low pay tax haven on the shores of Europe. It won't necessarily damage

:35:25.:35:29.

the EU, but it would certainly damage this country. Businesses,

:35:30.:35:33.

jobs and public services. She demeans herself and her office, and

:35:34.:35:37.

her country's standing, by making these kind of threats. What I set

:35:38.:35:44.

out yesterday was a plan for a global Britain bringing prosperity

:35:45.:35:49.

to this country, and jobs to people, and spreading economic growth across

:35:50.:35:54.

the country. But actually yesterday, we'll so learned more of the right

:35:55.:35:56.

honourable gentleman's thinking on this issue. What he said was the

:35:57.:36:08.

following. "She Has said will leave the single market but at the same

:36:09.:36:12.

time says she wants to have access to the single market. I'm not sure

:36:13.:36:16.

how that's going to go down in Europe. I think we have to have a

:36:17.:36:21.

deal that ensures we have access to the market". LAUGHTER I've got a

:36:22.:36:35.

plan, he doesn't have a clue! Mr Speaker, she made the threat. She

:36:36.:36:45.

was the one he made the threat about slashing corporation tax. If you

:36:46.:36:51.

reduce corporation tax to the lowest common denominator, this country

:36:52.:36:58.

loses ?120 billion in revenue. How, then, do you fund public services as

:36:59.:37:03.

a result of that? Last year, the Prime Minister said leaving the

:37:04.:37:08.

single market would make trade deals considerably harder. And, while we

:37:09.:37:13.

could certainly negotiate our own trade agreements, there would be no

:37:14.:37:18.

guarantee that they would be on terms as good as those we now enjoy.

:37:19.:37:23.

But yesterday, the Prime Minister only offered as vague guarantees.

:37:24.:37:28.

Can I ask her, does she now disagree with herself? LAUGHTER The right

:37:29.:37:37.

honourable gentleman might also have noticed that when I spoke in the

:37:38.:37:42.

Remain Campaign, I said if we voted to leave the European Union, the sky

:37:43.:37:47.

wouldn't fall in. Look at what has happened, actually, to our economic

:37:48.:37:51.

situation, since we voted to leave the EU. I say he talks about the

:37:52.:37:57.

future of this economy, I want us to be an outward looking nation,

:37:58.:38:01.

trading around the world, bringing prosperity and jobs into the UK. The

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one thing that would be bad for the economy is the answer is that the

:38:06.:38:08.

right honourable gentleman has. He wants a cap on wages, no control on

:38:09.:38:15.

immigration, and to borrow an extra ?500 billion. That wouldn't lead to

:38:16.:38:20.

prosperity, that would lead to no jobs, no wages and no skills. The

:38:21.:38:29.

Chancellor said after the referendum that to lose single market access

:38:30.:38:33.

would be catastrophic. A few days later the Health Secretary said, the

:38:34.:38:37.

first part of the plan must be clarity that we will remain in the

:38:38.:38:42.

single market. The Prime Minister said something about frictionless

:38:43.:38:45.

access to the single market and a bespoke customs union deal. Could

:38:46.:38:49.

the Prime Minister give us a little bit of certainty and clarity about

:38:50.:38:55.

this? Has she ruled out paying any kind of access to what she describes

:38:56.:39:04.

as a frictionless market? I can say to the right honourable gentleman

:39:05.:39:06.

that access to the single market is exactly what I was talking about

:39:07.:39:11.

yesterday in my speech. One of the key principles, key objectives, is

:39:12.:39:15.

that we negotiate a free trade agreement with the European Union

:39:16.:39:20.

that gives us the widest possible access for trading with and

:39:21.:39:23.

operating within the European Union. And he talks about frictionless

:39:24.:39:27.

access, actually this was a separate point, which is about frictionless

:39:28.:39:31.

borders in relation to the customs issue. A very important issue in

:39:32.:39:36.

relation to our relationship between Northern Ireland and the Republic of

:39:37.:39:40.

Ireland. The Taoiseach and I and all parties are absolutely on a single

:39:41.:39:44.

page on this, we want to ensure we have the best possible arrangement

:39:45.:39:48.

that doesn't lead to a Borders of the past in Northern Ireland. The

:39:49.:39:56.

question was, would we have to pay for access to the market or not? The

:39:57.:39:58.

Prime Minister hasn't given an answer on that. Yesterday she set

:39:59.:40:03.

out a wish list on immigration referring to skills shortages and

:40:04.:40:09.

high skilled migration. Does she now disagree with the Secretary of State

:40:10.:40:12.

rural affairs, who told an employer 's conference, don't worry, you can

:40:13.:40:17.

still have cheap EU labour after we leave the European Union? The Right

:40:18.:40:23.

honourable gentleman talks about access. Yes, the whole point is that

:40:24.:40:28.

we will negotiate a free trade agreement with the European Union,

:40:29.:40:32.

but it's about the best possible access for British business to

:40:33.:40:37.

operate in the European Union member states and for European businesses

:40:38.:40:40.

to operate here in the United Kingdom. It's about sitting down and

:40:41.:40:46.

negotiating the best possible deal for the United Kingdom. That's what

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I'm committed to and that's what this government is going to deliver.

:40:50.:40:54.

My question was about how much we are going to have to pay to have

:40:55.:40:58.

access to the market. Still no answer. Yesterday she talked about

:40:59.:41:05.

the pressure put on public services by migration. Can I just remind her,

:41:06.:41:10.

as one of her honourable friends did earlier, but at the moment there are

:41:11.:41:18.

55,000 EU citizens working in our NHS, helping to treat all of the

:41:19.:41:23.

people of this country. There are 80,000 care workers helping our,

:41:24.:41:29.

mainly elderly, people. There are 5000 teachers, educating our

:41:30.:41:33.

children. The real pressure on public services comes from a

:41:34.:41:37.

government that slashed billions from the social care budget, that is

:41:38.:41:42.

cutting the schools budget, that is closing A departments and walk-in

:41:43.:41:46.

centres and sure start centres. Instead of threatening to turn

:41:47.:41:50.

Britain into an offshore tax haven, let's welcome those who contribute

:41:51.:41:56.

to our public services and fund our public services properly, so that we

:41:57.:42:01.

do have the fully functioning NHS that we all need and deserve! I made

:42:02.:42:08.

clear yesterday, we value those who have come to the UK and contribute

:42:09.:42:13.

to our economy and our society, and there will still be people coming to

:42:14.:42:17.

the UK from the European Union, when we leave the EU. The crucial issue

:42:18.:42:23.

is that it is this government that will be making decisions about our

:42:24.:42:27.

immigration system for people from the European Union. But yet again, I

:42:28.:42:31.

say to the right honourable gentleman, there is indeed a

:42:32.:42:34.

difference between us. It's very simple, when I look at the issue of

:42:35.:42:39.

Brexit, or indeed at any other issue like the National Health Service or

:42:40.:42:46.

social care, I consider the issue, I set out my plan, and I stick to it.

:42:47.:42:53.

It's called leadership, he should try it sometime! Yesterday was a day

:42:54.:43:06.

for being bold and ambitious and I'm sure that she noted Lincoln city

:43:07.:43:12.

football club... Qualify to the fourth round of the FA Cup. I noted

:43:13.:43:18.

her recent comments about white working-class boys in university. In

:43:19.:43:22.

ten years half a million fewer males have gone to university than

:43:23.:43:29.

females. Exam result of lower -- exam results are lower at all

:43:30.:43:34.

levels. I ask my right honourable friend, when can we expect to see

:43:35.:43:39.

practical action on closing the gender education gap? Can I join my

:43:40.:43:43.

honourable friend in congratulating Lincoln city on their victory last

:43:44.:43:47.

night and say I think it was a fitting tribute to Graham Taylor

:43:48.:43:50.

that they won that match. He's raised an important point. I have

:43:51.:43:56.

highlighted the issue particularly of white working-class boys who are

:43:57.:43:59.

the group in society least likely to go to university. We are committed

:44:00.:44:03.

to making sure that every child gets the opportunity to fulfil their

:44:04.:44:08.

potential, that is about ensuring apprenticeships are as accessible as

:44:09.:44:12.

possible and I'm pleased to say that the number of apprenticeships

:44:13.:44:15.

started by males have increased this year to almost 50%. Also,

:44:16.:44:20.

universities expect to spend ?800 million this year in improving

:44:21.:44:23.

access and success for disadvantaged students. We want everybody to

:44:24.:44:28.

achieve their potential, whatever their background and whatever their

:44:29.:44:33.

gender. Shortly after the Prime Minister confirmed she wants to take

:44:34.:44:39.

the UK out of the single European market, the Scottish Parliament

:44:40.:44:43.

voted by a large cross-party majority to remain in the single

:44:44.:44:48.

European market, just as a large majority of people in Scotland voted

:44:49.:44:53.

to remain in the EU. The Prime Minister has said that Scotland is

:44:54.:45:01.

an equal partner in the United Kingdom. Does she still believe this

:45:02.:45:06.

is true, or is she just stringing the people

:45:07.:45:10.

I might refer the right honourable gentleman to my speech yesterday

:45:11.:45:14.

where I reiterated my commitment to be working with the devolved

:45:15.:45:18.

administrations to ensure their voice is heard of, their interests

:45:19.:45:22.

are taken into account as we proceed along this path negotiating our exit

:45:23.:45:27.

were European Union. I specifically references the Scotland plan. I

:45:28.:45:30.

understand the Welsh Government will produce a plan for Wales for us to

:45:31.:45:35.

look at too. That Scotland plan will be considered by the JMC on European

:45:36.:45:39.

negotiations tomorrow, I believe. We'll look at it seriously, working

:45:40.:45:43.

with the Scottish Government on the proposals they bring forward.

:45:44.:45:48.

Scotland's leading economic forecaster says, real wages will

:45:49.:45:56.

fall... LAUGHTER Tories jeering and cheering when the forecast for

:45:57.:46:03.

people's income is as likely to drop by ?2,000 and that 80,000, Mr

:46:04.:46:11.

Speaker, that 80,000 people may lose their jobs in Scotland as a result

:46:12.:46:18.

of the hard Tory Brexit plan of the Prime Minister. Does the Prime

:46:19.:46:24.

Minister believe that this is a price worth paying for her Little

:46:25.:46:31.

Britain Brexit? I repeat what I said earlier. We'll work to ensure we get

:46:32.:46:36.

the best possible deal in terms of access to the single market and

:46:37.:46:41.

continuing to cooperate in part are inship with the 28 remaining member

:46:42.:46:45.

states of the European Union. The right honourable gentleman once

:46:46.:46:50.

again talks about the possibility of a negative impact on Scotland if

:46:51.:46:53.

Scotland were not part of the single market. His party is dedicated to

:46:54.:46:58.

taking Scotland out of the single market by taking it out of the UK.

:46:59.:47:07.

Mr Speaker, this week directors of our larger companies have been told

:47:08.:47:12.

by investors to reign in senior executive pay which is too often

:47:13.:47:16.

distorted by long-term incentive plans which are too complex to

:47:17.:47:21.

manage and too excessive in their rewards. Will my right honourable

:47:22.:47:29.

friend look the such schemes as part of her corporate Government review?

:47:30.:47:33.

I'm pleased to say this Government's taken action on executive pay

:47:34.:47:37.

already giving shareholders the power to veto pay policies and force

:47:38.:47:44.

companies to Des cloy their board's pay. I want to build on that. We've

:47:45.:47:51.

pubbish Hirsched a Green Paper on how to strengthen shareholders'

:47:52.:47:55.

influence over executive pay and have greater transparency. Will the

:47:56.:48:03.

#3r50i789 provide a commitment today that no part of Great Repel Bill

:48:04.:48:09.

will be subject to ennish votes for English laws? -- lengthish votes.

:48:10.:48:19.

The honourable lady might recognise the Great Repel Bill will have a

:48:20.:48:25.

number of complex issues it will be dealing with. It will be ensuring at

:48:26.:48:33.

its heart will be the European communities act repeal. One of the

:48:34.:48:37.

issues we'll need to look at looking at that bill and negotiating our way

:48:38.:48:42.

out of the European Union is the issue of reserve matters and

:48:43.:48:46.

devolved matters. There are many aspects...

:48:47.:48:52.

THE SPEAKER: Order. Order. Members of the Scottish National Party led

:48:53.:48:56.

by the right honourable gentleman on the front bench who's supposed to be

:48:57.:49:01.

a statesman-like figure should demonstrate some calm and reserve

:49:02.:49:05.

while being answered by the the Prime Minister who was questioned.

:49:06.:49:09.

The Prime Minister. The honourable lady will know full well that any

:49:10.:49:13.

legislation brought before this House, if any part of it only

:49:14.:49:19.

applies to England then it will be subject to the English votes on

:49:20.:49:25.

English laws. May I congratulate the Prime Minister on her delivery

:49:26.:49:33.

yesterday of an historic, defin tiff, pragmatic, outward looking

:49:34.:49:36.

speech which saw the pound rise to its highest level in two years and

:49:37.:49:40.

the FTSE up today. Would she agree with me a strong and prosperous UK

:49:41.:49:46.

as she has planned, would be a nightmare for the Leader of the

:49:47.:49:52.

Opposition and the EU ruling class? I agree with my honourable friend, a

:49:53.:49:56.

strong and prosperous Britain is what we want to build as we leave

:49:57.:50:01.

the European Union. It is only a pitty it seems the Labour Party

:50:02.:50:05.

aren't interested in doing that and want to do the opposite and bring

:50:06.:50:13.

this economy down. Number 3, Mr Speaker. I always enjoy my visits to

:50:14.:50:17.

Wales. I hope to visit Wales in the future. Quite an answer as to

:50:18.:50:25.

whether she'll visit the Rhondda. I'm happy to accommodate her. I can

:50:26.:50:30.

do bacon and eggs. More importantly, I could take her to see the best

:50:31.:50:37.

brass band in the world. Or I could take her to the local food bank

:50:38.:50:43.

which is based in the closed down Conservative Club. What's happening

:50:44.:50:49.

at the moment is since 2010, the Government's closed the local

:50:50.:50:53.

courts, closed the local tax office, the DWP office and the driving

:50:54.:50:58.

centre. Now the Government's intending to close all the tax

:50:59.:51:01.

offices in Wales and centralise them in Cardiff. We feel in the valleys

:51:02.:51:05.

as if we're just ignored by the Government. Can I just beg her to

:51:06.:51:10.

change direction and start putting Government offices in the small

:51:11.:51:13.

towns, villages, valleys of this country? Can I say to the right

:51:14.:51:18.

honourable gentleman, the last time I looked, Cardiff was actually in

:51:19.:51:22.

Wales. He says we're going to take offices away from Wales but we'll

:51:23.:51:27.

put them in Cardiff. I think he might find the whole point about

:51:28.:51:33.

what the HMRC is doing is they are taking, moving from outdated offices

:51:34.:51:37.

to large, modern, regional centres. That will make it possible for them

:51:38.:51:43.

to modernise their ways of working, make tax collection more efficient

:51:44.:51:49.

and improve customer services by HMRC. I welcome my right honourable

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friend's speech for a global Britain. It shows you are list why

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enning to this side of the House. The council leaders considering the

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grater Manchester framework consultation responses as they

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listen to the people, give us better infrastructure and protect our green

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spaces. I thank my honourable friend for his comments and raising the

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issue. The con siltation -- consultation closed earlier this

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week. There has been a huge amount of interest from local people. I

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echo his comment sayings local leaders should take all

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representations into account. In the UK, we have 14 regional markets for

:52:42.:52:51.

electricity disprobe Ewingses. Highlanders and islanders are facing

:52:52.:52:57.

higher charges. They are an eye watering 84% higher than

:52:58.:53:00.

distributary bugs charges for London. Will the Prime Minister

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introduce a universal market for electricity pricing. Those of us who

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live in the coldest windiest place are are diskrilled against by her

:53:13.:53:18.

Government and it must end. The honourable gentleman draws attention

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to the fact of course geography has an impact on these matters. He talks

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about living in the coldest and windiest place. One of the issues

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that's interesting to look at in relation to Scotland is the whoa

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question of renewables and the opportunities for renewables. I can

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tell him we are looking at the impact... We are looking at making

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sure... We are looking at making sure energy markets in the UK are

:53:51.:53:55.

indeed working properly. I'm very pleased the Prime Minister has said

:53:56.:53:59.

she will take the necessary action on air quality to deal with the

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40,000 premature deaths it causes across our country every year. As I

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know she believes in her Government leading by example, will she make

:54:10.:54:13.

sure that all diesel cars are removed from the Government car

:54:14.:54:21.

service as soon as possible? My honourable friend is right,

:54:22.:54:23.

improving air quality is a priority for this Government. We are

:54:24.:54:29.

determined to cut harmful emissions. We've committed money since 2011 to

:54:30.:54:33.

supporting the take-up of low-emission vehicles. The

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Government car service is working to remove diesel cars from its fleet.

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It has replaced a quarter and this work conditions to remove diesel

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vehicles. Is the Prime Minister aware that I totally agree with what

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she said yesterday. It is the job of people in this... Wait for it...

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LAUGHTER We in this House have a real responsibility for our children

:55:00.:55:03.

and grandchildren to have a bright future. But is she aware there are

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dark clouds looming on the horizon in terms of intolerance, racism

:55:10.:55:13.

across Europe and the foundering and flux of many of our great

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institutions that have kept peace and prosperity since the last world

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war. I speak of the in UN, Nato and indeed the European Union. Are we

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fit for purpose in keeping this country safe, secure in that ward?

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-- world. I recognise the important issue that the right honourable

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gentleman raised in this area. It is pro sighsly as we move out of the

:55:40.:55:44.

European Union, the UK will be more outward looking. We want to ensure

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we play our part in the UN. That the UN itself is able to do the job that

:55:50.:55:57.

everybody wants it to do. Nato has been the most important bull washing

:55:58.:56:02.

in terms of maintaining safety and security across the European

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continent. That's why we're continuing to support Nato. British

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troops are in Estonia. British Forces in Poland, Romania,

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continuing to show our commitment to Nato. The thrust of my speech

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yesterday was we want a strong, strat edgic partnership with the

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European Union. That access to the single market, that free trade

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agreement but to continue to work with them on justice and security

:56:28.:56:32.

matters. Now is not a time to cooperate less, it is a time to

:56:33.:56:40.

cooperate more. Delighted the third round replay where Sutton united won

:56:41.:56:44.

against Wimbledon. The pressing issue is to be able to get into work

:56:45.:56:51.

on a day-to-day basis. Does the Prime Minister welcome the talks

:56:52.:56:55.

between Aslef and Southern to finding a solution for hard pressed

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commuters? As a former Wimbledon councillor, I am anot sure I share

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the enthusiasm for the defeat of AFC Wimbledon. On the point about train

:57:07.:57:10.

strikes, yes, I do. I hope those sitting around the table will

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enensure we see an agreement reached which enables passengers to get on

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with their lives, their jobs and not suffer the misery brought about by

:57:20.:57:24.

the strike in the first place. Can I agree with the Prime Minister and

:57:25.:57:28.

disagree with the last member about the reference to last night's

:57:29.:57:33.

meeting and AFC's results. If the Prime Minister really believes that

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GP surgeries should be open seven days a week, 12 hours a day, would

:57:40.:57:44.

she be my guest at a meeting against Department of Health diktat which

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will close a 6,000 strong surgery. Even better, could she just tell her

:57:49.:57:54.

Government to stop cuts to GP Ps Sir verieses which force thousands to

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attend hard pressed A's like St George's and St Helier or is she

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happy to see the poisible collapse of the NHS on her watch? I might

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remind the honourable lady, she and I sat on a council together where we

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tried to keep Wimbledon playing in Wimbledon other at least in Murton.

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GPs are part of the solution in terms of the NHS for the future.

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We've seen more GPs coming into the NHS. Something like 5,000 more GPs

:58:29.:58:34.

being trained and will be in place by 2020. But what we do want to

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ensure is that GPs are open and providing the services at times when

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the patients want to access them. Mr Speaker, it was quite clear from the

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Prime Minister's speech yesterday that she seeks to build a Brexit

:58:48.:58:52.

consensus and to bring our country back together. I thank her for that.

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To that end, and to strengthen the Prime Minister's negotiating hand,

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before Article 50 is triggered, would she please considerate least

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publishing all those 12 objectives in a White Paper so that we can

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debate them here in this place on behalf of all our constituents? My

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honourable friend is right. I absolutely understand the point she

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raised about Parliament's desire to be able to debate those objectives

:59:26.:59:30.

which I set out in the plan yesterday. One of the objectives,

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one of the principles was about certainly and clarity. It continues

:59:35.:59:38.

to be the Government's intention that we will provide clarity

:59:39.:59:43.

whenever it is possible and we will ensure that at appropriate times

:59:44.:59:47.

both the public and Parliament are kept informed and are able to

:59:48.:59:51.

consider and properly scrutinise these issues. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

:59:52.:59:59.

While dedicated and talented staff at the royal Liverpool hospital's

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A department struggle to find beds for sick people, around 135 patients

:00:05.:00:10.

are unable to be discharged solely because of Government cuts to social

:00:11.:00:16.

care. When will the Government recognise its responsibilities and

:00:17.:00:21.

not try to blame GPs for a problem of the Government's own making?

:00:22.:00:29.

There is a pressure on social care. I accept that and recognised this in

:00:30.:00:33.

this House. That's why the Government's recognised it and put

:00:34.:00:38.

improved funding through the better care fund and social care

:00:39.:00:44.

pre-September. Liverpool raced ?8 million and they'll receive ?48

:00:45.:00:49.

million from the better care fund by 2019/20. This isn't just a question

:00:50.:00:53.

of money. It is ensuring we have a sustainable social care system for

:00:54.:00:57.

the future. That's what the Government's working on. Could I

:00:58.:01:04.

commend by right honourable friend for her remarks yesterday, not least

:01:05.:01:10.

the constructive terms to the future of the EU in marked difference from

:01:11.:01:13.

others over the years. Would she confirm that constructive tone will

:01:14.:01:19.

remain as the best base for getting an agreement between ourselves and

:01:20.:01:24.

the EU and the default position of no deal will remain a default

:01:25.:01:30.

position and not the Government's default position? Absolutely. We

:01:31.:01:33.

want to get that good deal and expect to be able to get that good

:01:34.:01:38.

deal. It is right that it is through goodwill and a positive approach on

:01:39.:01:43.

both sides of these negotiations we will achieve that. I'm clear the UK

:01:44.:01:48.

wants to see a continuing strong European Union of 27 member states.

:01:49.:01:54.

We want to have a strong, strategic partnership with that Europon and

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continue to work bilaterally with individual states. I made this point

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to a number of European Union leaders yesterday when I spoke to

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them after my speech, we want to approach this in a positive and

:02:06.:02:09.

optimistic fashion. I believe a deal that is good for the UK, will be a

:02:10.:02:13.

deal that is good for the European Union. This week, the national

:02:14.:02:20.

auditor revealed the abject failures in the con accept tricks fiasco

:02:21.:02:23.

which resulted in thousands of people wrongly denied their tax

:02:24.:02:29.

credits. This was not one rogue contractors but a system designed by

:02:30.:02:33.

Government to pursue and chase down claimants for profit. So, does the

:02:34.:02:39.

Prime Minister agree with the Chief Executive of HMRC that payment by

:02:40.:02:44.

ruts has no -- results has no mace in our welfare system. Will she

:02:45.:02:48.

review this model or will she wait for the next scandal to hit

:02:49.:02:54.

vulnerable people? I recognise many people received a poor service. It

:02:55.:02:58.

is not the first time this has been highlighted in this chamber this was

:02:59.:03:03.

not acceptable. I apologise for the poury and stress caused for people.

:03:04.:03:06.

We have been clear about that service. HMRC will learn the lessons

:03:07.:03:12.

from that contract. They remain committed to providing a high

:03:13.:03:18.

quality service. It will not use a private sector service to undertakes

:03:19.:03:25.

tax or fraud checks again. Further to the question from my honourable

:03:26.:03:30.

friend, the Prime Minister did yesterday confirm her commitment to

:03:31.:03:36.

parliamentary democracy. Therefore, I assume she accepts the long

:03:37.:03:39.

standing convention that the he can he can tiff, the Government, is

:03:40.:03:46.

continuously accountable to this House for the policies that she is

:03:47.:03:51.

pursuing. Can she clarify whether or not she intends to make any further

:03:52.:03:55.

statements of policy intentions to this House and whether she

:03:56.:03:58.

anticipates this House having an opportunity to vote its approval for

:03:59.:04:03.

those policies earlier than two years away when the whole

:04:04.:04:09.

negotiation has been completed? My right honourable friend raises a

:04:10.:04:14.

matter that not only our honourable friend has raised but others as

:04:15.:04:19.

well. If I can simply make this point. Yesterday, my right

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honourable, the Secretary of State for exiting the European Union came

:04:26.:04:29.

here and answered questions for two hours. There is a further general

:04:30.:04:35.

debate on exiting the European Union matters taking place today. There

:04:36.:04:38.

have been a number of these do Bates already looking at the issues which

:04:39.:04:42.

are part of the objectives we have set. We will have to consider the

:04:43.:04:47.

result of the decision of the Supreme Court which may, if it goes

:04:48.:04:51.

against the Government, require legislation to be brought before

:04:52.:04:55.

this House. There will be an opportunity in the great wee peat

:04:56.:05:01.

bill to look at issues around the exiting the I the the EU. We can't

:05:02.:05:05.

vote on the deal until we know what the deal is. Parliament will have a

:05:06.:05:11.

vote when we know what that deal is. The Prime Minister's passing

:05:12.:05:14.

reference to the interests of Spanish fishermen in her speech

:05:15.:05:18.

yesterday let the cat out of the bag that our fishing opportunities are

:05:19.:05:22.

already on the table as a bargaining tool before the Brexit negotiations

:05:23.:05:25.

have even started. What does the Prime Minister want to offer the

:05:26.:05:31.

Spanish fishermen? I made a very simple point yesterday which is that

:05:32.:05:35.

negotiation is not just about the UK. There will be others in the

:05:36.:05:40.

European Union who will be looking for ensheering the deal we get is

:05:41.:05:44.

good for the UK and for the European Union. I have to say to the

:05:45.:05:51.

honourable lady, if she thinks continued membership of the common

:05:52.:05:56.

fishers policy is not the case and one of the things we will vote

:05:57.:06:02.

against. The people of Stafford shirt and Stoke-on-Trent are being

:06:03.:06:07.

confronted with the possible loss of emergency services in Stafford or

:06:08.:06:11.

Burton when our Acute Hospitals are under intense pressure. Would the

:06:12.:06:17.

Prime Minister agree with me and others that closing A is no way

:06:18.:06:22.

to deal with increased, real, not imagined, need. I would say to my

:06:23.:06:29.

honourable friend, the important issue is the level of service

:06:30.:06:33.

available for people in a local area. That's why the sustainability

:06:34.:06:39.

and transformation plans being published are taking into account

:06:40.:06:44.

and are being considered at a local level for local clinicians and local

:06:45.:06:47.

people to agree what is best in their particular area. Mr Speaker,

:06:48.:06:53.

last Friday I went to Blackpool Victoria Hospital where the number

:06:54.:06:57.

of people waiting 12 hours or more in A doubled last year. 100 of

:06:58.:07:04.

them aged 90 or over. Trust managers said the biggest factor is dig

:07:05.:07:08.

charging people. Government cuts erodele support for them. Will she

:07:09.:07:13.

stop waffling about her shared society, listen to her own budget

:07:14.:07:18.

watchdog saying we'll need ?30 billion from older people in the

:07:19.:07:22.

next ten years and put that money into local adult care and the NHS?

:07:23.:07:29.

Well, just looking at the figures for what has happened for health in

:07:30.:07:35.

his particular area, there are more doctors and significantly more

:07:36.:07:41.

nurses in his NHS Foundation Trust. I know what the honourable gentleman

:07:42.:07:44.

is talking about. I'm about to comment on it! But the honourable

:07:45.:07:54.

lady who is shouting from a sedentary position might have

:07:55.:07:57.

recognised he started talking about the NHS which is what I'm also

:07:58.:08:00.

commenting on. THE SPEAKER: Order. I'm not having

:08:01.:08:07.

an exchange across the dispatch box. Order. The Prime Minister was asked

:08:08.:08:12.

a question. Order! I require no help from the honourable gentleman which

:08:13.:08:17.

is of zilch value! The Prime Minister will answer and she will be

:08:18.:08:22.

heard with courtesy, including by the honourable gentleman. The Prime

:08:23.:08:26.

Minister The honourable gentleman asked me about pressures on the

:08:27.:08:31.

national health service. We are sighing more doctors and nurses in

:08:32.:08:35.

his hospitals Foundation Trust and he health funding in the honourable

:08:36.:08:41.

gentleman's area will be ?3 billion this year rising with a further 450

:08:42.:08:46.

million by 2021. In terms of the issue of social care, as I said in

:08:47.:08:51.

this House before, we are putting extra money into social care, giving

:08:52.:08:55.

local authorities the opportunity to raise more money and spend it on

:08:56.:08:58.

social care. This is not just about more money. It is about ensuring

:08:59.:09:02.

best practise is spread throughout the country. About a long-term

:09:03.:09:06.

solution to sustainable social care for the future. An issue ducked by

:09:07.:09:11.

Governments, including a Labour Government for 13 years. On Friday,

:09:12.:09:17.

the east coast of England faced threat of a tidal surge that

:09:18.:09:21.

endangered tens of thousands of homes and thousands of lives. A

:09:22.:09:26.

simple change in the weather meant flooding was averted. Will the Prime

:09:27.:09:30.

Minister join me in praising the response of the emergency services

:09:31.:09:36.

planning ahead, involving the army coastguard, the Fire Service and the

:09:37.:09:40.

ambulance and police to make sure the best possible plans were made

:09:41.:09:44.

and will she further join with me in making sure the public know these

:09:45.:09:49.

warnings, in future, should always be taken seriously? My honourable

:09:50.:09:55.

friend raises an important point. I'm happy to commend the action of

:09:56.:10:01.

all those in the emergency service, Armed Forces, and local authorities

:10:02.:10:05.

who worked so hard to make sure this problem, a change in weather took

:10:06.:10:09.

place, but it is absolutely crucial that when these warnings are given,

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people recognise they are given for a very good reason, because there is

:10:15.:10:17.

a concern about the danger that could take place. The efforts put in

:10:18.:10:22.

protected tens of thousands of properties. I'm pleased to see the

:10:23.:10:27.

work we have learned from previous flooding incidents, the work between

:10:28.:10:32.

emergency services, local services and the Armed Forces was much better

:10:33.:10:36.

coordinated than perhaps has been in the past. We've been able to learn

:10:37.:10:42.

from flooding in the past. Mr Speaker, in response to the

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honourable member for Broxtow the Prime Minister talked about her

:10:49.:10:51.

desire to give clarity around our exit of the EU. Many of my

:10:52.:10:56.

constituency yentas are paying taxes. What assurances can she give

:10:57.:11:01.

them about their future. Particularly if they change their

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employer or are freelancers? What I said yesterday is about the

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guaranteeing of rights for EU citizens living here in the UK. I

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want to see the rights of UK citizens living in the 27 member

:11:18.:11:21.

states being given guarantees as well. I encourage others across

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Europe to agree this is an issue we should look at at an early stage and

:11:28.:11:31.

as early a stage as possible in order to give people the confidence

:11:32.:11:37.

and reassurance she is looking for. ? Supporting my right honourable

:11:38.:11:46.

gentlemen in social care and the Health Service, can she endorse the

:11:47.:11:52.

confidence in our hospitals in market towns across the country.

:11:53.:11:56.

They provide a vital piece of the jigsaw in our NHS such as the

:11:57.:12:02.

Westminster memorial in stats brie? I'm sure as my honourable friend

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says, the Westminster memorial in Shaftesbury is providing good

:12:08.:12:11.

services for local people. What the structure of the local services

:12:12.:12:14.

should be is a matter for discussion at local level. It is crucial local

:12:15.:12:19.

clinicians agree and others agree we have a safe and secure service for

:12:20.:12:25.

people. They are provided within the NHS services they need at the most

:12:26.:12:31.

appropriate level. I accept very often we think only of major

:12:32.:12:36.

District General Hospitals and acute hospitals but the NHS is made up of

:12:37.:12:42.

different parts. Patients need to be treated at the most appropriate

:12:43.:12:48.

level for their needs. How can aband onning membership of the customs

:12:49.:12:54.

union that thaws 68% of Wales' exports, crucially 90% of our food

:12:55.:12:59.

and drink exports and supports 200,000 jobs cause any other than

:13:00.:13:05.

calamitous self-harm? What we will be doing is negotiating a free trade

:13:06.:13:09.

agreement with the European Union to get the best possible access for

:13:10.:13:15.

trade. We also want to be able to negotiate trade agreements with

:13:16.:13:18.

other countries around the world. A number of countries have already

:13:19.:13:22.

expressed interest in doing that. We want to open up, see new export

:13:23.:13:25.

markets being delivered for businesses here in the UK, including

:13:26.:13:28.

for the sort of trade that he's talking about in Wales. In the

:13:29.:13:33.

customs aspect with the European Union, we want to have an

:13:34.:13:39.

arrangement with them to have as frictionless borders as possible.

:13:40.:13:47.

Were Prime Minister's Questions comes to an end there.

:13:48.:13:54.

He began with some process about the role of Parliament in the Brexit

:13:55.:14:00.

process, saying the Prime Minister should have made the speech before

:14:01.:14:04.

Parliament rather than at Lancaster house yesterday and called her the

:14:05.:14:09.

irony lady. He then moved on to matters of substance about access to

:14:10.:14:14.

the single market. The Prime Minister through that back in his

:14:15.:14:17.

face. About how much we would be paying there, we'll come on to that

:14:18.:14:24.

in a minute. Finished up by talking about health as well. I'm not sure

:14:25.:14:29.

this took us any further forward but will go through it nonetheless.

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First, let's find out what you made of it. This view of those please

:14:37.:14:40.

explain to me the difference between a freak trade deal with the EU and

:14:41.:14:45.

access to the single market. No wonder people find so is confusing.

:14:46.:14:50.

Another viewer, Mrs May continues to take the best possible deal for

:14:51.:14:54.

Britain, it's meaningless to say so any substance to substantiate her

:14:55.:15:01.

statement. Another viewer says, Mrs May, not rattled by a lightweight

:15:02.:15:05.

Jeremy Corbyn but he tick-macro she was by Angus Robertson who shows a

:15:06.:15:13.

credible opposition to the Tories. Another viewer, two questions on why

:15:14.:15:16.

Theresa May didn't bring her speech to Parliament first, no one cares,

:15:17.:15:20.

cut the stuff that matter to ordinary people. There's no point

:15:21.:15:23.

asking her how much frictionless access will cost, she can't know,

:15:24.:15:29.

the question is how much issue prepared to pay. Did I miss

:15:30.:15:34.

something? I don't think it's moved us very much further forward in

:15:35.:15:37.

terms of this whole thing. What was interesting was that the Speaker

:15:38.:15:48.

called on... Them and Jeremy Corbyn have retreated to asking questions

:15:49.:15:51.

of process. Talking to somebody in that camp yesterday, they felt down,

:15:52.:15:57.

because their main argument has been trying to preserve membership of the

:15:58.:16:01.

single market. That's gone. Theresa May killed that off yesterday. We

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see them instead talking about Parliamentary process today. Ken

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Clarke asking the question that Jeremy Corbyn tried to ask but

:16:11.:16:13.

didn't quite get there. I think that's quite telling. At the moment

:16:14.:16:17.

they are scratching their heads wondering where to take the fight

:16:18.:16:23.

next. Another question that came up was the status of European Union

:16:24.:16:28.

citizens currently working here. There's a lot of uncertainties, some

:16:29.:16:31.

of them don't know what's going to happen, they would like clarity. Why

:16:32.:16:35.

doesn't the British government turn around and say, if you are an EU

:16:36.:16:39.

citizen, working here, you and your family are welcome and will have the

:16:40.:16:43.

right to stay here for as long as you want? In .7 of her speech

:16:44.:16:48.

yesterday she said as soon as she is able to do that and as soon as other

:16:49.:16:53.

EU countries guarantee the same rights for UK nationals... You're

:16:54.:16:56.

making them a bargaining chip when you say we are only going to do it

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when we understand the rest of Europe is going to do it. Why would

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we not take the high ground or, just to be pragmatic in laying the fizz

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of these people, who have come here to work and brought their families,

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just as they we hope that Europe treats are people well, too, but

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whatever they do we are treating you well, why went you do that? Their

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importance is underlined by the fact they've got their own place in the

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Prime Minister's speech. She said, we value the contribution of EU

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nationals... So why not give them clarity? So they are a bargaining

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chip? We've got to have the same clarity for UK nationals. Why? So

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you are making the EU citizens here a bargaining chip in the

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negotiations? It is important we have reciprocity. The same rights we

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want to be able to give the EU nationals are available to UK

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nationals living in the European Union. This line we have quite a lot

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from Mr Corbyn about a race to the bottom, and of what he regards as

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the low tax economy, low regulation. He said, if you reduce corporation

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tax to the lowest common denominator, I assume by that he

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means to the low levels you may get in Ireland, Singapore, this country

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loses ?120 billion in revenue. Do you agree with that? I think what

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he's trying to say is that there is a vision hinted at by Philip

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Hammond, that the UK could somehow become a tax haven off the coast of

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Europe. Or a low tax economy, that's different. Philip Hammond was

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clearly signalling we would be prepared to have a very different

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type of economy in this country to one that we've ever had previously.

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How do we lose ?120 billion in revenues if we slash corporation

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tax? Philip Hammond was talking about... I'm asking you about what

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Mr Corbyn asked the Prime Minister. What we are trying to say is that

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the vision for the UK economy, which looks like a tax haven off the coast

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of Europe, is something we will oppose. How could we lose ?120

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billion, if we slash corporation tax? When total corporation tax

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revenues are under ?50 billion? He said, if you reduce corporation tax

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to the lowest common denominator, not get rid of it all together but

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make it really low, the country loses ?120 billion. How can you lose

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that if it is at under ?50 billion? Jeremy says he doesn't want to undo

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the way our economy has functioned since the Second World War... What's

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the answer to my question? This is an economy that supports our public

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services, the taxation that pays that our public health services,

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that's very important. We oppose getting rid of that. The figures

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don't add up. In what way would be more like Singapore be a race to the

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bottom? If we change the economic consensus that we've had in this

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country, which supports our public services, it provides the tax

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revenue... Why would be like Singapore be a race to the bottom?

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There are pensions, our health services, our free education system,

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free health care at the point of need... Those other things we enjoy

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in this country. Do you know what per capita incomes are in Singapore?

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Per capita incomes in Singapore are $80,000 per year. They are $42,000

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in the UK. They've got the second highest life expense seat in the

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world, much higher than Britain. Unemployment is 2% -- second highest

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life expectancy. Why is that a race to the bottom? Singapore is a very

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different society. Labour says that's what you have in mind. We

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want to protect our public services and we want proper investment. We've

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had a big debate about social care, about local government, about the

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health service. You cannot provide those services in the way that this

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country has enjoyed, in the way we say we want to continue to enjoy, if

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you fundamentally change the economic... Would be being more like

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Singapore, given the statistics, be a race to the bottom? I think it

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would be. To have the second highest life expectancy in the world? We are

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a very different country. We have high unemployment and lower per

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capita income! We've got Boris Johnson's remarks. One of the

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disappointing fact is that in the last 25 years, since the dawn of the

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single market, it's other countries including India, that have done

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better at exporting into the single market than we in the UK have. We

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have no terrors about this prospect. I think if Mr Mr Mr Hollande wants

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to issue punishment beatings, I don't think that is the way forward.

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Actually it's not in the interest of our friends and our partners. Why

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pick a fight with the French President who won't even be there

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after May? I think it's good the Foreign Secretary is in India

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promoting trade deals but he's making the same point as the Prime

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Minister. It's in no 1's interest for the EU to reintroduce tariffs or

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other barriers to trade... President land isn't even running again. --

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President Hollande. Why pick a fight with someone who will be essentially

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irrelevant come the negotiations? He's reinforcing the Prime

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Minister's point which is that it's in Europe's interests and our

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interests to get a deal along the lines of the 12 point she sat out so

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powerfully yesterday. Thank you very much.

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Now, when he became speaker eight years ago, John Bercow said

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That foolish hostage to fortune has set all sorts of hares running,

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and the race is now well and truly on to replace him.

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Now, Mr Bercow could just decide not to stand down next year,

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but that hasn't stopped us fuelling the speculation.

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Everyone knows he does more than just tell MPs off.

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THE SPEAKER: The Prime Minister has finished and he can take it

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They'd be big non-ceremonial shoes to fill, so who could do it?

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An MP who's just as comfortable having a go at the PM

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Let me indulge in the floxiknockinhilapipification

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Of course, convention says the next Speaker should be

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I don't know what I want to do next week, let alone in a year's time.

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The Deputy Speaker Lindsay Hoyle's name has also been in the frame.

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But then he'd no longer be the voice of the balls, the man who draws

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215 will cross-reference the member's name to the number.

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Douglas Carswell, Ukip's only MP has been cited as a possible suitor

:24:49.:24:51.

Maybe it's his ability to keep other politicians

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brief, to the point and, above all, prescient.

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If the British people vote to leave the European Union,

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will the Prime Minister remain in office to implement

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But the man most likely to be Speaker this time next year...

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A fizz of excitement, here in the studio!

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Ellie there with the runners and riders.

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But who's the favourite to replace Speaker Bercow?

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Jessica Bridge of the bookmakers Ladbrokes is outside Parliament.

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Give us the odds! Good afternoon. Jacob Rees-Mogg is the favourite at

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the moment with odds of 6-4. He is being touted as a very good speaker

:25:46.:25:50.

to replace John Bercow. That's why he's in there as the favourite. He

:25:51.:25:56.

does appeal to both sides of the party. He's been described as a man

:25:57.:26:00.

of the people which I'm not sure I get personally! I don't know many

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right wing Etonians who wed double-breasted suits in 2017! Then

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Chris Bryant, he's probably going to struggle a bit because he needs to

:26:16.:26:18.

appeal to more than his own party. He did make that gaffe about Kiss a

:26:19.:26:25.

Ginger Day. Lindsay Hoyle is obviously the main Deputy Speaker

:26:26.:26:28.

right now. He's very popular, he's got across both sides of the House.

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Ladbrokes are going to be keeping a close eye on him. He's not an

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outsider, he's not an underdog, but he's definitely the one we need to

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keep an eye on. Thank you very much for that. Who do you fancy as the

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next speaker? There's no way I'm answering that! Why not?! Offending

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your colleagues isn't the best way to spend an afternoon. It's hard to

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remove a speaker who doesn't want to be removed. We'll probably be where

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exactly we are now in a year's time. I surprised Jacob Rees-Mogg is the

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favourite? Jacob has the character to fill the role but John Bercow has

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been the most extraordinary speaker. He may not be a giant of a man

:27:19.:27:22.

physically but he's filled the space in the most extraordinary way. Do

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you think you'll definitely go? At some point! He said he would go

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after a certain amount of time. He doesn't have to actually go. What

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about Lindsay Hoyle? He is very popular, isn't he? He is, he'd be a

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great candidate. He has shown himself to be able to manage the

:27:44.:27:46.

really tricky big parliamentary occasions with great skill and

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humour. I think he'll be a very popular choice. I then understand

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why his odds are so low. Convention, does that mean it should be Labour's

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turn? I think this is up for grabs. It's a matter for the House to

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determine. Let's put you out of your misery and give you the answer. It

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was 2012. There was some great music in that film as well. Toby Simmons

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from Orpington. Well done! The News At One is starting

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over on BBC One now. Jo is going off to Strasbourg so I

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will be here on my own, working hard as usual as she gallivant around

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Strasbourg! Goodbye.

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