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Hello, and welcome to the Daily Politics.

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Donald Trump's whirlwind of activity continues,

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as he announces his candidate for the Supreme Court.

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Meanwhile, here in London, the Home Secretary ramps up

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the criticism of his ban on immigrants.

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So is the policy really that extreme?

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The Commons will vote tonight on whether to allow Theresa May

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to trigger our departure from the EU.

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But with a majority of Labour MPs set to back the Government,

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Will Mrs May be put on the spot over Brexit, or Donald Trump's

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We'll bring you all the action from Prime Minister's

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And why is Truro joining the race to be crowned

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the European Capital of Culture in 2023, long after Britain

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What's the answer to that question? You'll find out later in the show! I

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shall stay tuned. All that in the next hour

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and a half, a tour of world events And we're joined for all of it by

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the Conservative MP, Andrew Percy. We're told he's the Communities

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Minister, responsible for parks, seaside towns, high streets and pubs

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- it sounds like he might Let's begin today, as we often do

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by talking about Donald Trump. The US President been busy

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as we slept in the UK, revealing his nomination for the US

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Supreme Court. If the man he's chosen,

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a Federal Appeals Court judge called Neil Gorsuch,

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is confirmed by the Senate, it will restore the Supreme Court's

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conservative majority. This matters a lot in America,

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because the court has the final legal word on many of the most

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sensitive US issues, Meanwhile, the worldwide controversy

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over Mr Trump's executive order banning mainly Muslim

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immigrants, goes on. Theresa May can expect to be

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questioned today over when she knew about the travel restrictions,

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and the wisdom of inviting the President to the UK

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for an early state visit. You can bet this one

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is going to run and run. Mr Trump is still only

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10 days into the job, but he's been busy with his fountain

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pen, issuing a flurry Donald Trump has shown he's a big

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fan of executive orders - instructions to the government

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which don't need a new law - and he marked his first day

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in office by signing one to restrict President Obama's

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healthcare reforms. Other orders have fast-tracked

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approval for two controversial oil pipelines and restricted

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environmental reviews of big President Trump also instructed

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the government to draw up plans for the construction of a wall along

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the US-Mexico border - And with his choice of nominee

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for the US Supreme Court, Mr Trump hopes to restore

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the court's conservative majority. After Theresa May became

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the first foreign leader to visit the new president,

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he talked of rebuilding the special relationship,

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and reaffirmed the US commitment But within hours of her departure,

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he signed his most controversial order yet -

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announcing "extreme vetting" for immigrants from seven

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Muslim-majority countries He also suspended the US

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refugee programme. Protests in cities around the world

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followed, including here in the UK, where a petition opposing Mr Trump's

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state visit has attracted more than 1.7 million

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signatures, and will now be Yesterday, Home Secretary Amber Rudd

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was asked what she thought of the changes to US immigration

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policy. Isil and Daesh will use any

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opportunity they can to make difficulties,

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to create the environment that they want to radicalise people,

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to bring them over to their side. So it is a propaganda opportunity

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for them, potentially. The difficulties to the UK over

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terrorism are not caused by people largely coming from the sort

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of countries that the US has named, but from people

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becoming radicalised here. So I would urge our efforts

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to continue to be on addressing That was the Home Secretary. Andrew

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Percy, why is a temporary travel ban on people coming from countries that

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Ore haven of terrorist activity, why is that a propaganda opportunity for

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Islamic State? I think you have seen from the reaction to the executive

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order, it has served as a good propaganda tool. You are right to

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point out, it is a temporary ban, and after three months, the

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president said on Facebook they will start issuing visas again. I don't

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think that has come across in some of the coverage. So why is it a

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propaganda opportunity? Downing Street said it is clear that Islamic

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State will twist any policy from any government to their own propaganda

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purposes. I think that's absolutely true. The concern around this is it

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is seen as pitching the West against Muslim communities and countries.

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That is probably where that fear comes from. Since the Government has

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said, almost any policy that any Western government comes out with,

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and by the way many governments in the Middle East as well, Islamic

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State will twist that to their purposes. Why pick on that from

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policy? That's true, there are many policies for which that can be said.

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From the reaction to it, it is seen as pitching Western democracies

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against Muslim countries. I think that's what the fear is. That may be

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because certain people are reporting it in ways that are inaccurate. It

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can hardly be a ban on Muslim countries when the five most

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populous Muslim countries in the world are not covered by any of the

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bands, temporary or permanent? That's absolutely true. Some of the

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reporting of it and the suggestion that it is a ban on Muslims is

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clearly not true. Banning certain countries for a three-month period.

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What I find annoying about this whole thing is the hypocrisy of it.

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We have people on the streets against a ban for three months, but

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last night the Mayor of London hosted 11th dignitaries from

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countries that have permanent travel bans by countries such as Israel. Is

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it not clear that number ten's statement saying that Islamic State

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will twist any government policy of any statement to their own purposes,

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is number ten distancing itself from the Home Secretary? I think that is

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probably a statement of fact. I haven't actually seen the statement

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in full, there is no doubt that a whole range of different policies

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have been twisted by IS, Daesh. This could be another example of that. It

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is exactly that, because this is seen, and the reason it is seen as a

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policy that is targeting Muslims is that in those seven countries, there

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is also talk of a special dispensation for those who may be

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religious minorities in those countries. When one of our closest

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allies targets Muslims in this way, bans refugees, and you have the

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Foreign Secretary saying, look, it wouldn't be our policy. We have a

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Prime Minister failing to back the Home Secretary when she is stating

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the bleeding obvious. This is weak. You know, I have a general point

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here, I think the reaction has been characterised as weak and

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mealy-mouthed. That's your view, but let's look at the substance. The

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seven countries on the temporary visas suspension list, they are all

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either terrorist havens or state sponsors of terrorism in themselves.

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They are on a list dating from President Obama in 2015, which he

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identified as the countries that America were at most risk from

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terrorist attack. What is wrong with issuing temporary bans on the use

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countries until you have tested if your freezer system is robust

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enough? I don't think the rationale stacks up. Obama did tighten up the

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Wiese scheme. But simply to ban all refugees in a blanket ban, when

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refugees. Might that's a different band. I'll come onto the refugee ban

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in a minute. You started answering a different question, I'm going to

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bring you back to the one that I asked, the ban on the seven

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essentially failed states, these seven countries. What is wrong,

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until you are sure that your entry system is robust enough, having a 90

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day ban? It's not for me to try and explain or defend Trump's policy,

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which I detest. But why the rationale is flawed is that the

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terrorist attacks, and the title of this executive order was protection

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against terrorist attacks in the US. The people who have committed the

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terrorist attacks in the US have overwhelmingly been US citizens or

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naturalised citizens. They haven't been from the seven countries. The

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most objectionable part of this. Might I'm afraid that's not quite

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true. There has been a terrorist... Ohio State have a terrorist attack

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from Somalia. The attack in San Bernardino involves people who had

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come in from outside the country. Now, what is the difference between

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what Mr Trump has done, and what Mr Obama did, when the FBI discovered

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that using the refugee process, a number of Iraqis had got in who were

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terrorist threats of the country? He then tightened up that, but he took

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six months to do it, and the number of Iraqi refugees coming did was

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reduced to a trickle during that time. What's the difference? First

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of all, the majority of those people perpetrating attacks in the US have

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not been from those countries. Secondly, he tightened up the

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process, he didn't impose a blanket ban. What is most objectionable

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about this is the blanket ban for 120 days on all refugees. Now, why

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this is internationally causing such trouble is that it breaks not just

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fundamental values that we try and uphold alongside the US, but the

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very conventions that have been in place to take refugees for more than

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60 years. But hold on, if you are not sure that your vetting

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procedures are robust enough, and if, as the case with Mr Obama had,

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that Iraq is had been using the refugee process to in full trade

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terrorists, and there were two arrested in Kentuckian -- in full

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trade terrorists. If you found that it is not robust enough, why would

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you not have a temporary ban? I agree that a lifetime ban is

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different, but why not a temporary ban until a man that was elected

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saying that he would introduce extreme vetting has a chance to

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check the system? What's wrong with that? What's wrong is that it

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breaches fundamental established decades-old conventions about how in

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this world we treat refugees and we don't discriminate against those who

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are some of the most vetted, validated, checked. Might it's

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temporary. He was elected on a platform of improving the vetting

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procedure. Why can he not take 120 days to do that? He could do it in a

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different way, he could do it like Obama. I fundamentally object to it.

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The reaction people have had, my real criticism is with team-mate...

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-- Theresa May. He shares platforms with... I'm looking at the substance

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of the ban. Hold on, hold on. I want to ask you this. What should Britain

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be doing? What should our British Prime Minister by doing? I'm sorry,

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Mr Healy, it is on the basis of the substance of the Trump policy that

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you want the visit to be banned and not to take place. I want to ask you

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this on the refugees. At the height of the barrel bombing of women and

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children in Syria, and of chemical weapons being used against them in

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Syria, how many Syrian refugees did President Obama allow in? Andrew, I

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have no idea. Well, I'll tell you. In 2012, 30 one. In 2013, 30 six. At

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the height of the obscenity... Non-Foss have a record to be proud

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of an Syria over the last few years. -- none of us. This is a question

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about what Britain and our Prime Minister should do. At least Jeremy

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Corbyn had the guts to stand up, like more than 1 million people

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signing this position, to say this is not acceptable. Let's come back

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to what Britain should do. I understand it is on the basis of

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what Mr Trump's policy is that you don't want the state visit to

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proceed. What is the difference between a state visit from a Chinese

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president, a totalitarian leader, and a state visit from the president

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of the United States? The talk is about postponing, not banning. In a

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media endorsement of an encouragement of the state visit for

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President Trump, it is in effect an endorsement of this worldwide ban on

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refugees, and a very selective ban on Muslim majority country migrants.

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So it should be postponed. So it's just a matter of time? Even the

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recent Permanent Secretary at the Foreign Office has said, look, if

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the state visit goes ahead on the circumstances, it's going to

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embarrass the Queen. Of course we should be standing up to President

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Trump on this. The question is, as Bowman and pressure, the proper way.

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-- postponement. There is barely not a dictator the Queen has not had to

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entertain at the bequest of the British Government. But she

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shouldn't have two entertain the president of our most important

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ally, a man who, unlike the Chinese president, was actually elected.

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That's your position? The reality of being a country in

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the modern world means we have to have good relationships. Our special

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relationship with the United States brings a special responsibility to

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be willing to speak out, which the Prime Minister hasn't done. On the

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state visit, the question is wholehearted endorsement at this

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stage is a wholehearted endorsement of what he has just announced. So

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the debate is about postponement. The action needs to be pressure on

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the president to rethink what he has just signed into law. Why the rush?

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Mr Obama's first state visit wasn't until after two years? The same was

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true of Mr Bush and Mr Reagan. Why not postponement? I find this

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argument a bit bizarre. Are we saying that every time we don't like

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the domestic policy of a particular president, we shouldn't invite them

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to the United Kingdom? When you invite the head of state of the

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United States, it is an honour to the entire country. It is about the

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relationship between the UK and the US, our most important relationship.

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Really important at the moment when we think about what the president

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has said on trade. I think we get into dangerous territory if we start

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saying because we don't like a particular domestic policy of a

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democratically elected leader somewhere in the world, we want

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invite in September but maybe he can come in November. It is ridiculous.

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We have run out of time. No doubt this will come up at Prime

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Minister's Questions. Later today, MPs will vote

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on legislation to allow the Prime Minister to fire

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the Brexit starting gun It's widely expected

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that the Article 50 bill will survive this first

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parliamentary test, with bigger challenges likely to occur later

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on in the Brexit process. The debate on the bill began

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yesterday, and it was notable that - for now at least -

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splits in the Conservative Party on the issue have mostly melted

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away, while Labour continues Here's Shadow Brexit

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Secretary Kier Starmer. A decision was made on the 23rd of

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June last year to leave the EU. Two thirds of Labour MPs represent

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constituencies that voted to leave. One third represent constituencies

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that voted to remain. This is obviously a difficult decision. I

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wish the result had gone the other way. I campaigned passionately for

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that. But as Democrats, our party has to accept the result.

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That was Kier Starmer talking about the number of Labour seats

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While the nationwide result in the referendum was fairly close,

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with 48% Remain and 52% Leave, Remain voters tended to be clustered

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in big cities and in Scotland and Northern Ireland -

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Leave voters were more evenly spread.

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This means that while a small majority of the country voted Leave,

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a large majority of the country's 650 parliamentary constituencies did

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so - that's according to work by Chris Hanratty

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Well, before we talk about today's Commons vote,

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we thought we'd test our guests knowledge of which

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constituencies voted to leave and which were remain.

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I know you have been looking forward to this. Have you got your paddles

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at the ready? Yes! No expense spared. Leave on one side, Remain on

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the other. It is like Strictly Come Dancing. Without the dancing. Or the

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budget! Monmouth, Leave or remain? Right, you are split. Andrew, you

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are right. It was 52% remain. Liverpool Walton. A Labour seat.

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Both wrong. The MP, Steve Rotheram, supported Remain. Liverpool

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Riverside was the charity Remain. Hastings and Rye. Very good. 56%

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Leave. Newcastle upon Tyne East. You make it sound like you had distinct

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knowledge. It actually is Remain. Andrew, you got that wrong. Banff

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and Buchan. No. It was actually Leave. 54% Leave. You all look

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surprised. We have picked seats that would test the knowledge. Carshalton

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and Wallington, Leave or Remain? No. You are wrong again. Apart from

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doing very badly, it was actually 56% Leave. It highlights the dilemma

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between MPs who are voting one way and constituencies that voted

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another. And particularly for your party, John Healey. It seems that

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Labour is in a no-win situation. The vast majority of MPs voted Remain,

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including yourself. The vast majority of Labour voters, two

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thirds, voted Remain. Now MPs are being instructed to vote to trigger

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Article 50 against many of their consciences. Do you have sympathy

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for your colleagues who are not going to vote to trigger Article 50?

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I do have sympathy, especially for those who are in strongly Remain

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seats, particularly those who have a fight on their hands as they did at

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the last election, to hold those seeds and sense it is their duty to

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speak for the constituents who elected them. But in the end, Kier

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Starmer said it, this is a democratic question. A national

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referendum. And respecting and recognising the result of the

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referendum and the will of the people in the referendum requires a

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national party to back triggering of Article 50, which is what we are

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doing. Even if you don't really believe it, which was clear from

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Kier Starmer's tone? He was speaking in sorrow, really. Of course, but

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this was about the result of the referendum. It is right to respect

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the national vote. It is to start the process. Why are so many of your

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colleagues not following the party line and then? If you add the

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leadership have put out a clear instruction to vote to trigger

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Article 50, why are so many of your labour colleagues voting against?

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Most Labour MPs this evening will vote for the short piece of

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legislation that triggers or allows the Prime Minister to trigger the

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negotiation process, Article 50. Some will votes according to their

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constituency voices. And some national parties will try and go

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against the national result, the Lib Dems and the SNP. The real question

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is, what happens beyond this short Bill? It is only the start of the

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process. That is where the amendments that Labour will be

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tabling, that is where the important process starts. What Britain we want

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before Brett -- beyond Brexit. That is where a number of key Tory

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Remainers will join possibly Labour in voting for a vote that Parliament

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could have before the very end of the negotiating process. What is

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wrong with that? The people who have absolutely no right to set the terms

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of our exit our Remainers have not accepted the result. People like

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Anna Soubry have respected the result. I think she's very

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principle. She has long held beliefs on this issue. But there are others

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who will try to thwart this bill or future legislation. But my question

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was about having an amendment where people have said they accepted it,

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even though they remove -- they voted Remain, who said they would

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like a vote that was meaningful for Parliament. If Parliament is to have

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a proper say, surely they need to scrutinise the deal put before them

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at a point at which they could send it back to the government to say,

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you need to improve it? We have debated Brexit every single day in

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some form since the referendum. The Prime Minister has made it clear the

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final proposal will go before Parliament. It is a take it or leave

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it. So it should be. The decision taken by the people was to leave the

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European Union. It wasn't to leave bits of it and stay in some of it,

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and it wasn't to give Parliament the final say. At no point was ever

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anywhere in the question that Parliament would decide the final

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deal. To be fair, there wasn't anything other than exiting the EU.

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What we get to a situation where Parliament rejects a deal? Are we

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then going into second referendum territory? Labour are divided. Over

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the next couple of years that division will be constantly reminded

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to Labour MPs who don't have a collective voice on this. It want,

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actually. This is a short Bill. We won't frustrate the process. But you

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can't describe proper public and parliamentary challenge to a Prime

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Minister's aims for negotiation, her achievements, or a sense of how we

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want the country to be, as somehow trying to thought the process. To

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answer your question, this is where the clearer division will come

:25:25.:25:30.

between the Conservatives and Labour. This is where you will find

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Labour MPs and labour voters pulling together to try to do our proper job

:25:35.:25:38.

as the official opposition. We have to leave it there. Audience after

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Prime Minister's Questions. Now, it looks like Number 10

:25:41.:25:43.

and Buckingham Palace will have more than a few things to worry about,

:25:44.:25:45.

as they plan Donald Trump's state There will probably be protests

:25:46.:25:49.

on the streets on a major scale. Prince Charles might buttonhole

:25:50.:25:53.

Mr Trump about climate change. The 45th president might

:25:54.:25:55.

hold Her Majesty's hand if he encounters any steps

:25:56.:25:57.

at Windsor Castle. And, possibly most damagingly

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of all, Lib Dem leader Tim Farron has said he won't attend

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if he is invited. They speak of nothing else in

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Washington, DC this morning as they wake up to that shock news!

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But if anyone from Buck House is watching, don't worry -

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we have the perfect way to impress Mr Trump at the big banquet.

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Yes, you just need to put the royal Asti Spumante

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Is that how you usually drink sparkling wine, in a mug?!

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I'm interested that you think I would drink sparkling wine!

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Any awkward moments will soon be forgotten, as you raise the toast

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with this desirable alternative to boring old crystal glassware.

:26:46.:26:51.

Other sparkling wines are available. Mr Trump will not drink any of them

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because he doesn't drink. Never mind the banned, he doesn't drink! Are

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you saying there is something wrong with that?

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Yes, the only problem is you'll have to win lots of them -

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so you'd better start entering our guess

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All you need to do is tell us when all of this happened.

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It's coming up to midday, and there's Big Ben -

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which means Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.

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Laura Kuenssberg, who managed to escape the United States, after

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doing her best to destroy the special relationship! Great

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question. I tweeted how proud I was of you. Thank you. I've learned from

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the master, of course. Trump, the refugee banned and related issues we

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have been discussing, the state visit. Mr Corbyn cannot avoid some

:29:32.:29:37.

kind of mixture of that? He could, of course. But I think today Jeremy

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Corbyn will go on this issue. Not the workers directive, your personal

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favourite. I am 99.99% sure Jeremy Corbyn will indeed go on the Trump

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travel banned. Theresa May's delayed response to that. And whether or not

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there should be a state visit with the full bells and whistles, the red

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carpet, the gold carriage, the shoulders -- soldiers in their

:30:06.:30:11.

shining breastplates. Not least because it is an issue Jeremy Corbyn

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feels strongly about, but also because many of his backbenchers

:30:15.:30:17.

sitting behind him feel strongly about it, and also plenty of people

:30:18.:30:22.

on the opposite benches have some sense of disquiet about it. Not

:30:23.:30:27.

necessarily that there are serious calls the man should be led into the

:30:28.:30:33.

country, but there is disquiet about whether or not Theresa May has been

:30:34.:30:37.

seen to be cosying up to him too fast. What is Jeremy Corbyn's

:30:38.:30:43.

official position? John Healey said earlier it was a matter of timing.

:30:44.:30:48.

Is it a matter of timing, or are they against a visit outright? Or is

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it, all right he can come but he doesn't get the joint session in

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Parliament? There are a variety of different initiatives going on.

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People have been organising about this. There is a motion put down by

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MPs to say that he shouldn't be allowed to do the joint address in

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the Palace of Westminster. That is one specific issue. There is then,

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as I understand it, the official position that until something

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changes about the travel banned, the full state visit should not be

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extended to the president until there is some kind of move. One of

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the really interesting things about the last couple of days is that MPs,

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lots of different MPs, have put forward ways about protesting.

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He was an outstanding parliamentarian, I'm sure that our

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thoughts are with his friends and family. I had meetings with

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ministerial colleagues and others, and I shall have further such

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meetings later today. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I associate myself with the

:32:20.:32:23.

tribute paid to the victims in Canada and to the family of Tam

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Dalyell. Mr Speaker, North Devon is quite rightly concerned that the

:32:31.:32:33.

current review of health services across the county may result in the

:32:34.:32:37.

loss of some acute services at our hospital in Barnstable. For some

:32:38.:32:41.

residents, the nearest alternative could be three hours away. Will my

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honourable friend assure me that she will listen carefully to those

:32:46.:32:49.

concerns, because I want to be able to say to North Devon that we are

:32:50.:32:50.

the party of the LHS? -- the NHS. I thank my honourable friend for his

:32:51.:33:09.

question. I can reassure him that this Government is absolutely

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committed to ensuring the best possible health care for patients

:33:12.:33:15.

right across the country. I recognise that there are concerns

:33:16.:33:18.

that have been expressed locally about the North Devon District

:33:19.:33:23.

Hospital. I'd understand that there are no specific proposals at the

:33:24.:33:27.

moment, but I know that the input of local communities will remain

:33:28.:33:30.

crucial Robin Briars says. And I can assure him that of course it is this

:33:31.:33:34.

party in Government that is putting in the extra funding into the NHS

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and showing how we evaluate. Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I

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joined the Prime Minister in offering condolences to all those

:33:46.:33:49.

who died in the horrific attack, fuelled by hate, in Quebec. We

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should send our solidarity to everybody in Canada in this sad

:33:55.:33:58.

occasion. I also associate myself to the tribute for the former member

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for West Lothian, can DL. Former father of the House, he probably

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thought to expose official wrongdoing and cover-ups from the

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miners strike to a ruck. I'm sure that the Prime Minister would agree

:34:13.:34:16.

with me that his scrutiny and contributions made this House a

:34:17.:34:20.

better place. And can I recommend to all members his autobiography, The

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Importance Of Being Awkward. LAUGHTER

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And I'm quite happy, Mr Speaker, to offer my copy to the Secretary of

:34:38.:34:42.

State for Brexit to have a good read of it. I'm sure he's probably

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already read it. Mr Speaker, at last week's Prime Minister is questions,

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the Prime Minister told the House, I'm not afraid to speak frankly to

:34:54.:34:57.

the president of the United States. What happened? Well, first of all,

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can I say to the right honourable gentleman that I wasn't aware of the

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book that he referred to, but I suspect, given the number of

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resignations he's had from his front bench, that some of his colleagues

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have indeed read that book! I'm happy to say to the right honourable

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gentleman that when I visited the United States, I'm pleased to say

:35:29.:35:32.

that I was able to build on the relationship that we have with our

:35:33.:35:39.

most important ally. And to get some very significant commitments from

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President Trump. And crucial among those was a 100% commitment to Nato.

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Nato, which keeps us safe and Europe safe too. Mr Speaker, Downing Street

:35:52.:35:58.

has not denied that the Prime Minister was told by the White House

:35:59.:36:01.

that the executive order on travel to the US was imminent. So let's be

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clear, was the Prime Minister told about the ban during her visit, and

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did she tried to persuade President Trump otherwise? First of all, on

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the policy that President Trump has introduced, this Government is clear

:36:20.:36:24.

that that policy is wrong. We wouldn't do it. In six years as Home

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Secretary, I never introduced such a policy. We believe it is divisive

:36:32.:36:36.

and wrong. If he's asking me whether I had advanced notice of the ban on

:36:37.:36:41.

refugees, the answer is no. If he's asking me if I had advanced notice

:36:42.:36:45.

that the executive order could affect British citizens, the answer

:36:46.:36:49.

is no. If he's asking if I had advanced notice of the travel

:36:50.:36:55.

restrictions, the answer is, we all did, because President Trump said he

:36:56.:36:58.

was going to do this in his election campaign. The question, the question

:36:59.:37:10.

is how you respond. The job of Government, the job of Government is

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not to chase the headlines. The job of Government... The job of

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Government is not a trait to the streets in protest. The job of

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Government is to protect the interests of British citizens, and

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that's exactly what we did -- not to take to the streets. Mr Speaker, on

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the day after the executive order was made to ban refugees and

:37:37.:37:40.

visitors from seven predominantly Muslim countries, why did she three

:37:41.:37:44.

times refused to condemn the ban then? I've made very clear, very

:37:45.:37:51.

clear, that we believe this policy is divisive and wrong. It's not a

:37:52.:37:56.

policy that we would introduce. I've also made very clear when asked

:37:57.:37:59.

about this that this Government has a very different approach to these

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issues. On refugees, this Government has a proud record of the support

:38:05.:38:07.

that we have given to refugees, and long may it continue. Mr Speaker,

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the Prime Minister said the United States is responsible for United

:38:15.:38:19.

States policy on refugees. But surely it is the responsibility of

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all of us to defend the 1951 refugee Convention, which commits this

:38:25.:38:30.

country, the United States, and 142 other states to accept refugees

:38:31.:38:35.

without regard to their race, religion or country of origin.

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President Trump has breached that convention. Why didn't she speak

:38:40.:38:44.

out? First of all, I've made absolutely clear what the

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Goverment's view on this policy is. Secondly, as I've just said, this

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Government has a proud record, and this country has a proud record, of

:38:53.:38:59.

how it welcomes refugees. We have over the last recent years, we've

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introduced the very particular scheme to ensure that particularly

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vulnerable refugees in Syria can be brought to this country, and

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something like 10,000 Syrian refugees have come to this country

:39:11.:39:14.

since the conflict began. We are also the second biggest bilateral

:39:15.:39:18.

donor, helping and supporting refugees in the region. That is what

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we are doing. I have said that the policy is wrong. We will take a

:39:24.:39:27.

different view on we will continue to welcome refugees of this country.

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Mr Speaker, I also wrote to the Prime Minister on this issue, and I

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received a reply this morning. I hold in my hand her piece of paper.

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She makes no mention of the refugee Convention, nor condemns the US

:39:44.:39:48.

actions in this respect. Mr Speaker, last week I also asked the Prime

:39:49.:39:53.

Minister to assure the House that any United States trade deal, she

:39:54.:39:57.

would not offer up our National Health Service as a bargaining chip.

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She gave no answer when asked in the US she also refused to rule it out,

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so let's might ask her a third time, will she will out opening up our

:40:11.:40:14.

National Health Service to Private US health care companies? Yes or no?

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Mr Speaker, I could give a detailed answer to the right honourable

:40:22.:40:27.

gentleman's question, but I think a simple and straightforward reply is

:40:28.:40:31.

what is required. The NHS is not for sale, and it never will be. I hope,

:40:32.:40:47.

Mr Speaker, that includes not having US health care companies coming in

:40:48.:40:51.

to run any part of our National Health Service. Mr Speaker,

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President Trump has torn up international agreements on

:41:00.:41:04.

refugees. He has threatened to dump international agreements on climate

:41:05.:41:08.

change. He has praised the use of torture. He has incited hatred

:41:09.:41:13.

against Muslims, he is directly attacked women's rights. Just what

:41:14.:41:18.

more does the President Trump have to do before the Prime Minister will

:41:19.:41:23.

listen to the 1.8 million people who have already called for his state

:41:24.:41:25.

visit invitation to be withdrawn the right honourable gentleman's

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foreign policy is to object to and insult the democratically elected

:41:37.:41:43.

head of state of our most important ally. Let's just see what he would

:41:44.:41:47.

have achieved in the last week. Would he have been able to protect

:41:48.:41:51.

richest citizens from the impact of the executive order? No. -- British

:41:52.:41:56.

citizens. Would he have been able to lay the foundations of a trade deal?

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No. Would he have got a 100% commitment to Nato? No. That's what

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Labour has two of this country. Less protection for British citizens,

:42:06.:42:10.

less prosperous, let's save -- what Labour has to offer. -- less safe.

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He can lead a protest, I'm leading a country.

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Order, order. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Today, it is inconceivable that

:42:34.:42:42.

somebody would be prosecuted because of who and what they are. Would my

:42:43.:42:47.

right honourable friend drawing me and welcoming the posthumous pardon

:42:48.:42:54.

of some 49,000 men thanks to the Goverment's Bill that was enacted

:42:55.:42:59.

yesterday, and encourage those who are still alive to come forward so

:43:00.:43:02.

that there are injustices can be overturned. I'm very happy to join

:43:03.:43:06.

my honourable friend in welcoming what I believe is an extremely

:43:07.:43:10.

important change to the law. We made a manifesto commitment to it and we

:43:11.:43:14.

have now delivered on it. Passing this law has been a long-standing

:43:15.:43:18.

commitment for the Government. It is momentous, it does take action to

:43:19.:43:21.

right the wrongs of the past, and like my right honourable friend, I

:43:22.:43:24.

would certainly encourage those still alive to applied the Home

:43:25.:43:30.

Office to have their references disregarded. We on these benches

:43:31.:43:33.

associate ourselves with all the comments thus far on the tragic

:43:34.:43:38.

deaths in Quebec and on the passing of time DL. The respect for him was

:43:39.:43:42.

held across the political parties. He served with great distinction for

:43:43.:43:47.

more than 40 years. The Prime Minister had a very successful

:43:48.:43:49.

international visit in this last week. To Ireland. And there she

:43:50.:43:58.

spoke publicly about her commitment, it's very important I think, the

:43:59.:44:03.

commitment not to have a hard border on these islands. That there should

:44:04.:44:06.

continue to be free movement of peoples on these islands, and trade

:44:07.:44:12.

should be protected and enhanced. Given that people will be watching

:44:13.:44:17.

this not just in Britain but also in Ireland, would she take the

:44:18.:44:20.

opportunity to explain how she will deliver these sensible and important

:44:21.:44:27.

outcomes? These are absolutely the outcomes that we want to see. I was

:44:28.:44:31.

very pleased to meet with the Taoiseach and discuss with him the

:44:32.:44:35.

joint intent that of his government and mine have two ensure that we

:44:36.:44:39.

don't see a return to the borders of the past in Northern Ireland. And to

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say that of course we focus on the land border that is between Northern

:44:44.:44:46.

Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, of course the issue of movements

:44:47.:44:50.

from Ireland does in effect other places as well, such as port in

:44:51.:44:58.

Wales. It is an important issue for us, and we have agreed the work we

:44:59.:45:01.

are going to do together to deliver what I believe will be as

:45:02.:45:05.

frictionless as possible a border, and also one of the objectives that

:45:06.:45:10.

I set out in my plan for our negotiating objectives is to retain

:45:11.:45:11.

the Common travel area. We welcome what the Prime Minister

:45:12.:45:21.

has had to say on these issues and we welcome the intensifying of

:45:22.:45:24.

negotiations between the UK government and the devolved

:45:25.:45:26.

administrations ahead of triggering Article 50. So the Prime Minister is

:45:27.:45:31.

very helpfully explained that it is perfectly possible for parts of

:45:32.:45:37.

these islands to be in the single market, without Borders, with free

:45:38.:45:41.

movement of people and at the same time protect and enhance trade with

:45:42.:45:47.

one another. This is very, very welcome, Mr Speaker. Will the Prime

:45:48.:45:51.

Minister give a commitment to work with the Irish government and a

:45:52.:45:55.

commitment to work with the Scottish government to deliver all of these

:45:56.:45:59.

things? Or will we just have to get on with it ourselves? First of all,

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the Right Honourable gentleman is right, that following the meeting of

:46:08.:46:11.

the plenary session on Monday morning we did agree to an

:46:12.:46:13.

intensification of discussion on issues related to the bringing back

:46:14.:46:20.

of powers from Brussels, and as to where those powers should lie within

:46:21.:46:24.

the United Kingdom, and to intensify that in the run-up to the triggering

:46:25.:46:29.

of Article 50 and beyond. On the other question, I'm afraid he really

:46:30.:46:32.

should listen to the answer that are given because he's trying to imply

:46:33.:46:38.

something that isn't there. Yes. We are very clear that we want to see a

:46:39.:46:44.

frictionless border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

:46:45.:46:48.

I'm also clear that one of the objectives of our negotiation is to

:46:49.:46:52.

see us frictionless a border as possible between the United Kingdom

:46:53.:46:56.

and the rest of the European Union. If he is so worried about having a

:46:57.:46:59.

frictionless border between Scotland and the European Union, he shouldn't

:47:00.:47:05.

want to see Scotland independent and take it out of the European Union.

:47:06.:47:13.

Order! We shouldn't have to allow for the reaction to every answer

:47:14.:47:17.

from the SMB benches before we proceed to the next question. Mrs

:47:18.:47:27.

Maria Miller. -- SNP. EU nationals provide a vital and expert service

:47:28.:47:30.

in my hospital in Basingstoke. Along with thousands of others they face

:47:31.:47:34.

an uncertain future. I know this is something the Prime Minister wants

:47:35.:47:38.

to give priority to in sorting out, will we be hearing more about it in

:47:39.:47:43.

the forthcoming White Paper? My right honourable friend makes an

:47:44.:47:47.

important point. I would like to confirm my intention and expectation

:47:48.:47:51.

that we will be able to offer that reassurance. I do also want to see

:47:52.:47:58.

reassurance offered to UK nationals in the EU. I will be working to

:47:59.:48:02.

ensure this is an issue we can deal with at an early stage in the

:48:03.:48:06.

negotiations. It was one of the objectives I set out in the plan. It

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will be referenced in the White Paper. I can inform my right

:48:11.:48:14.

honourable friend and the House that that White Paper will be published

:48:15.:48:21.

tomorrow. Prime Minister, your responses today

:48:22.:48:31.

have been deeply unsatisfactory. The president of the United States had

:48:32.:48:38.

-- has advocated torture, misogyny, racial discrimination, sexual

:48:39.:48:43.

assault, isolationism. The leaders of Canada and Germany responded

:48:44.:48:46.

robustly but your response was to jump on a plane as soon as possible

:48:47.:48:52.

to hold his hand. Mr Speaker, doesn't this country deserve our

:48:53.:48:55.

leader willing to stand up for British values?

:48:56.:49:00.

Order! I have issued no response and the honourable gentleman not only

:49:01.:49:04.

shouldn't breach Parliamentary protocol, but he shouldn't tempt me.

:49:05.:49:10.

The Prime Minister. I will tell you what standing up for British values

:49:11.:49:16.

is. I had this government introduced the first modern slavery act in this

:49:17.:49:20.

country. I have ensured that stop and search is reduced because I

:49:21.:49:23.

don't believe that anybody on the streets of this country should be

:49:24.:49:26.

stopped and searched because of the colour of their skin. And I ensured

:49:27.:49:30.

justice for the families of Hillsborough. Despite the fact most

:49:31.:49:38.

of the country -- countries covered by the Trump ban have total

:49:39.:49:45.

exclusion of Israeli visitors, shouldn't the protestors be calling

:49:46.:49:49.

for that banned to be lifted? I thank my right honourable friend for

:49:50.:49:53.

pointing this out. It is absolutely right that this House should be

:49:54.:49:57.

aware of the discrimination and the band that exists around the world,

:49:58.:50:01.

particularly for those who are is really sad isn't -- citizens. We

:50:02.:50:06.

don't agree with that approach. And it is not an approach we shall be

:50:07.:50:10.

taking. I wait for the day when the right honourable gentleman opposite

:50:11.:50:17.

stance up and condemns it, too. Mr Speaker, a constituent of mine

:50:18.:50:20.

suffered a bleed on the brain in 2012. She has struggled to work

:50:21.:50:24.

since but was due to disk -- to retire in December. Due to changes

:50:25.:50:30.

to state pension retirement age, she will not retire until 2022. This has

:50:31.:50:37.

short-changed 2.2 million women and brought shame to this government.

:50:38.:50:40.

Will the Prime Minister look again and support Diana and the millions

:50:41.:50:43.

of women who deserve fairness in retirement?

:50:44.:50:53.

The issue of those who are known... To refer the honourable gentleman to

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the fact we did commit over ?1 billion to lessen the impact on

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those affected, so no one will see their pension age changed by more

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than 18 months. But we do have to be realistic and looking at pension

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ages, but the fact that people are living longer. If we want a

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sustainable pension system, we need to equalise the state pension age

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faster and bring forward the rise. I welcome the ?450 million announced

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in the Autumn Statement to fund a trial for the pilot of the digital

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railway. Given the new fleet of trains on the border and the

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economic growth opportunity that exists for our region, does the

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Prime Minister agree that the main line represents the most compelling

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case for that pilot? My honourable friend is right about what he says

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about transport links. I understand digital signalling could increase

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capacity by up to 40%. Hence the investment he refers to. I know that

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the Department for Transport is looking currently at where those

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trials should take place. But we certainly recognise that the great

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Eastern and mainline is one of the areas that could benefit. A few

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moments ago the Prime Minister tried to claim credit for passing

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Stonewall's Alan Turing bill. She didn't. The bill pardons all gay men

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found guilty of crimes no longer on the statute book. So when will the

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Prime Minister follow the Scottish government and pardon automatically

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the living as well as the dead? When I was home Secretary the legislation

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was introduced that gives the opportunity for those who are alive

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to apply to the Home Office to have those events is no longer on the

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statute book expunged from their record. The honourable gentleman

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says they are not doing it. My honourable friend and I have both,

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in this chamber today, encouraged people to come forward and make that

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application. That is a message we should all give. At the White House

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my right honourable friend gain some assurances from President Trump

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about his commitment to Nato, an achievement welcomed by the

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governments the Czech Republic, Latvia and Lithuania. Does my right

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honourable friend agree with me that the way to engage with President

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Trump and win such agreements is by not insulting our close ally, but by

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bringing him close, and not doing as the leader of the is it and demands,

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that we reject our closest ally? Would this not leave Britain and our

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European partners less safe and less secure? My honourable friend is

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absolutely right in the points he makes. We should never forget that

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America is our most important ally. It is a long-standing relationship.

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American men and women served alongside and died alongside UK men

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and women in two world Wars to protect our security and the

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security of Europe. If we were not able to have that relationship and

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see that commitment to Nato particularly, we would see this

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country and Europe less safe. Many were surprised that immediately

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after those cosy images with Donald Trump, the Prime Minister chose to

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meet with the Turkish president, who has been running an increasingly

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repressive regime since last summer. Could the Prime Minister confirm

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whether she raised any human rights concerns with President Cardigan?

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Will it be the policy of post-Brexit Britain to put arms deals before

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human rights abuses? First of all, I think the honourable lady should

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recognise that Turkey is an important country in relation to

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both our security and the issue of migration into Turkey and

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potentially into Europe. Turkey has, and continues to host, 3 million

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refugees from Syria. I commended the Turkish government on the welcome

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they have given those refugees. And yes, I did raise and I suggest to

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the honourable lady she should just have looked at the press conference

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I gave after my discussions with President erred again, in which I

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made it clear that we had condemned the coup but we also expected the

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Turkish government to support its democratic institutions, to support

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international human rights and the rule of law. I wholeheartedly

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congratulate my right honourable friend in securing 100% for Nato

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from the US administration. Cucchietti climb what she is to

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persuade our other allies the importance of press -- their

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obligations? Can I thank my honourable friend for the work he

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does on the Nato Parliamentary assembly. I know he is fully engaged

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with that. There are commitments that have been made. At the Nato

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Summit in 2014 Oliver Nato allies committed to spending 2% on defence

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within a decade. We have seen progress but I agree with President

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Trump that many allies need to go further. I can assure my honourable

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friend that I and other ministers across government raise our -- the

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issue regularly. Last week's London air pollution was

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worse than that of Beijing. So will the Prime Minister assure me and my

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constituents in Osterley, Brentford and Chiswick, that the hugely

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expensive proposal to double the capacity of the M4 as it arrives in

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London will be shelled forthwith? -- shelved. The issue of air quality is

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one this government takes seriously. Quite a lot of work has been done

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since 2011. Over ?2 billion has been committed to enable, for example,

:57:07.:57:11.

bus operators to upgrade their fleets. But we do recognise that

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more needs to be done. We have seen a reduction in nitrous oxide fumes

:57:19.:57:23.

in recent years but we will be bringing forward proposals to ensure

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we can maintain the air quality that we all want to see. As a fellow

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Bartra member of Parliament, will my right honourable friend the show her

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support for brighter Bircher, the campaign that is part of the 2017

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Europe mental health, and give her continued -- commitments to ensure

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we have parity between mental health and physical health in this country?

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I am very happy to endorse the campaign that my friend has referred

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to. I think it is important that we continue to raise awareness of the

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issues around mental health. And the fact the government has committed to

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this parity of esteem between mental health and physical health is

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important. There is more to do a mental health. I have set out some

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steps we need to take. But I commend all those working to raise awareness

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of mental health and provide support to those with mental health

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problems. The Association of directors of adult social services

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have said that 4.6 billion has been cut from social care budgets since

:58:31.:58:36.

2010. Does the Prime Minister take any responsibility for the pain and

:58:37.:58:42.

the distress that the Tories have inflicted on poor vulnerable older

:58:43.:58:48.

people being denied their rightful care? Yes, horror no? This

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government has taken a number of steps to increase the funding from

:58:56.:58:59.

local authorities to provide for social care. I also believe it is

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important that we do ensure best practice is being developed and put

:59:03.:59:06.

into place across the country. There are some parts of the country where

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the record on social care, the interaction between hospitals, is

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better than others. There is a longer term issue to ensure that we

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have a sustainable system for delivering social care for people in

:59:20.:59:23.

this country. The Labour Party ducked that issue for 13 years.

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We're addressing it. Will my right honourable friend join me in

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congratulating the academy on the recently received world-class

:59:39.:59:41.

schools quality mark award, and indicate how awards such as this

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drive people excellence? I am happy to join my friend in congratulating

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the whole team at Morley Academy. I think it shows the work the trust is

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doing in driving up excellence and improving outcomes for pupils. We

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are determined to drive up standards in schools to ensure broad children

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have good school places, a good school place for every child, so

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they can all be at the level we see in the Morley Academy. How will the

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thousands of people who've lost their jobs at BHS feel that it may

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take years before the case of Philip Green, the disgraced and discredited

:00:23.:00:26.

businessperson, will have his knighthood possibly withdrawn, taken

:00:27.:00:32.

away or otherwise? Isn't it remarkable? People lose their jobs,

:00:33.:00:36.

they suffer all the consequences and this man keeps his billions and his

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knighthood. The honourable gentleman has raised

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an important issue. This has been raised by many members of this house

:00:46.:00:48.

in terms of their concern about what happened at BHS and the attitude and

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approach Philip Green talk. The issue of whether a knighthood should

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be taken away from somebody is a matter for the relevant committee.

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They will be looking at this. I understand they have said they are

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waiting for the investigations to complete, but this is an issue for

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an independent committee. Tonight there will be an historic vote in

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this place. A vote that I never thought I would see in my political

:01:22.:01:26.

lifetime. The British Parliament voted to withdraw from the European

:01:27.:01:32.

Union under the excellent leadership of the Prime Minister. Would the

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Prime Minister be surprised that people on the opposite bench or

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demand time to discuss this and debated, namely the Liberal

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Democrats, didn't even bother to turn up last night? These benches or

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pack, both benches were packed, the DV -- the DUP were here and there

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were some Labour members. Isn't that surprising?

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Throughout my political career I have fought -- nothing the Liberal

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Democrats do ever surprises me. But I will join my honourable friend in

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commending the bill that is before the House. This House has a simple

:02:24.:02:28.

decision. We gave the right of judgment to the British people. They

:02:29.:02:32.

made their choice, they want to leave the EU. The question every

:02:33.:02:36.

member must ask themselves as they go through the lobbies tonight is,

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do they trust the people? The right honourable gentleman is

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here now. Let's here the fellow. Tim Farron.

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-- let's hear the fellow. Who'd have guessed it, Mr Speaker?

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We are here now... LAUGHTER.

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Asking the questions about the future of our country on Brexit that

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a strong Leader of the Opposition should be asking.

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Order! Order, Mr Knight! I'm very worried about you. You recently

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suffered from a bad leg. With all that shedding you will be suffering

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from a bad head. Calm yourself, man! The Prime Minister will return...

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The Prime Minister will return at some point with a deal with Europe

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that our people will have to live with for decades to come. Especially

:03:47.:03:52.

our young people. 73% of whom voted to remain. Nobody knows what that

:03:53.:04:00.

deal will look like. But someone, someone will get to agree at. Should

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it be her government? Should it be this parliament? Or should it be, as

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I believe, the British people? I've already said they will be a

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vote on the deal in this Parliament. Calm yourself. You are in a state of

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excessive excitement, even by your standards. Nigel Adams. Quite

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difficult to follow that! Back in the real world...

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LAUGHTER. In December 2015, my constituency

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suffered some terrible flooding, particularly the town of Tadcaster.

:04:48.:04:50.

The damage was made worse when the bridge collapsed. Thankfully the

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Briton -- bridge will be reopened this week. Willie Prime Minister

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thank all those involved in the restoration of the bridge? Would you

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join me in thanking the residents of Tadcaster who have had a terrible

:05:09.:05:13.

year? 5-macro I am very happy to join my honourable friend both in

:05:14.:05:17.

commending and in thanking all those who have worked so hard to see the

:05:18.:05:21.

restoration of the bridge at Tadcaster, but also the people of

:05:22.:05:25.

Tadcaster who have had to put up with this disruption and

:05:26.:05:28.

inconvenience for such a long period of time. I'm sure they will all

:05:29.:05:33.

welcome the return of the bridge. We commend all those involved.

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The News revealed yesterday that Toshiba is reviewing its investment

:05:41.:05:51.

in the Moorside nuclear-power plant. Not only does it put a cloud over

:05:52.:05:56.

jobs in Cumbria, but also over the future of our energy and security.

:05:57.:05:59.

What does he do personally to make sure the deal stays on track? I can

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assure the honourable gentleman that in relation to a number of deals and

:06:05.:06:08.

potential deals around the nuclear industry, both I and the Business

:06:09.:06:11.

Secretary are involved in these and are very keen to ensure that these

:06:12.:06:15.

jobs are brought to the United Kingdom, and we do see these deals

:06:16.:06:19.

keeping on track. So I can assure him that the government's commitment

:06:20.:06:26.

is there. This week, the Danish drug firm

:06:27.:06:35.

invested 115 million in the UK, in order to further research into type

:06:36.:06:38.

two diabetes. With the Prime Minister join me in welcoming the

:06:39.:06:43.

investment, welcoming those academics and scientists, many from

:06:44.:06:46.

the EU and around the world, who will appreciate that the surety she

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spoke of earlier? But also work with me to ensure that new treatments get

:06:52.:06:57.

to patients as quickly as possible? This is an issue that I do recognise

:06:58.:07:02.

particularly, personally, although I am a type one diabetic rather than

:07:03.:07:06.

Type II. Any investment in research for diabetes is to be welcomed. We

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do need to ensure that where there are new solution is found, where

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there is support for diabetics found, that we see that getting to

:07:16.:07:19.

people as quickly as possible. There is a significant number of people

:07:20.:07:22.

who suffer from type two diabetes in this country, and the figures show

:07:23.:07:27.

there is a great risk that number will increase significantly in

:07:28.:07:30.

coming years. We need to do all we can to prevent people becoming Type

:07:31.:07:36.

II diabetics in the first place, but also to support those who are, so

:07:37.:07:40.

that we see that people suffer from fewer complications in future and

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are able to manage their lives. Today's is world hijab day. I wonder

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if the Prime Minister would join me in recognising the right of Muslim

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Women's Network the hijab without fear, if they wish? And the right of

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all women everywhere to wear what they want, when they want. Willie

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Prime Minister also commit to standing up for the right to refuge

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for men, women and children wherever they may be, regardless of their

:08:09.:08:13.

religion? First of all, on the second point of the honourable lady

:08:14.:08:17.

races, it is absolutely the case that this country welcomes refugees

:08:18.:08:26.

to the United Kingdom. And we do so regardless of their religion. There

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is no question of discriminating on the religion. On the issue that she

:08:30.:08:31.

raises about the wearing of the hijab, I am absolutely in line with

:08:32.:08:34.

her. What a woman wears is a woman's choice.

:08:35.:08:39.

The Russian armed forces regularly carry out large-scale exercises,

:08:40.:08:44.

including with nuclear capable equipments, on the borders of

:08:45.:08:48.

eastern Europe. Would my right honourable friend I agree with me

:08:49.:08:53.

that the American commitment to Nato is absolutely pivotal in protecting

:08:54.:08:59.

the countries of eastern Europe from going the same way as already has

:09:00.:09:05.

happened to eastern Ukraine? I absolutely agree with my honourable

:09:06.:09:09.

friend. I think the commitment that President Trump has given, 100%

:09:10.:09:15.

commitment to Nato, is crucial in ensuring we can provide for the

:09:16.:09:18.

security of this country and others in Europe, and particularly for

:09:19.:09:21.

those in eastern Europe on the borders with Russia. I know that my

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honourable friend earlier referred to the fact that the Czech republic,

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the Latvian government, the little winning government, had welcomed

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that 100% commitment. -- Lithuanian government. We have played our part.

:09:36.:09:43.

300 troops will be going to Lithuania and Estonia later this

:09:44.:09:44.

year. In 2015, my constituent was lured to

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her death to Pakistan where she was brutally raped and murdered. Willie

:09:57.:10:00.

Prime Minister join me in reiterating the commitment of this

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House and this country, that we will not tolerate violence against women,

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and to encourage the Pakistani government to continue in its

:10:10.:10:12.

efforts for justice for our British girl? Yes, can I say to the

:10:13.:10:18.

honourable lady that obviously she has raised a very tragic case that

:10:19.:10:22.

has taken place. Our deepest sympathies are with Samir's husband

:10:23.:10:26.

following her tragic death last year. We don't interfere in the

:10:27.:10:31.

legal processes of another country. But the Foreign Office, I understand

:10:32.:10:36.

from the Foreign Office the Pakistani police have charged two

:10:37.:10:40.

people with murder. The Foreign Office are provided assistance to

:10:41.:10:44.

Samir's husband and will continue to do so. I understand the Home

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Secretary will be meeting the honourable lady soon to discuss this

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issue. Prime Minister's Questions comes to

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an end. It has ended earlier this week. It is meant to finish at

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12:30pm but it normally finishes at 12:45pm, so there we are! As

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everybody thought, Mr Corbyn decided to go on the whole business of Mr

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Trump and the ban on certain Muslim majority countries and the refugee

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banned for 120 days and so on. And he asked the Prime Minister several

:11:20.:11:23.

questions. The Prime Minister did tell us some things that we hadn't

:11:24.:11:29.

known for sure yet. Clearly she thought the policy was wrong and

:11:30.:11:34.

divisive. But she said she had no advance notice. There had been

:11:35.:11:38.

stories doing the rounds that the president had tipped her off while

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in Washington, but she said she had no advance notice of the policy that

:11:43.:11:46.

he was going to come out with. He may have mentioned something in

:11:47.:11:50.

general terms, but she had no advance notice of Howard would

:11:51.:11:53.

affect the British, what it was going to be and so on. And she said

:11:54.:12:05.

that she was proud of this country's attitude to refugees, and under no

:12:06.:12:07.

circumstances would Britain adopt policies that Mr Trump has adopted

:12:08.:12:09.

for the united states. Then Jeremy Corbyn moved onto another issue, the

:12:10.:12:14.

possibility that we may do a bilateral trade deal. The

:12:15.:12:16.

transatlantic trade deal which involved the EU and the US is now

:12:17.:12:22.

dead in the water. But there is now a possibility that Britain could do

:12:23.:12:26.

a bilateral deal with the United States. Jeremy Corbyn wanted to know

:12:27.:12:30.

if the NHS could be at risk and become a bargaining chip, so that

:12:31.:12:34.

big American companies can become again and getting involved. The

:12:35.:12:37.

Prime Minister said there was no way the NHS would become such a

:12:38.:12:41.

bargaining chip in any sort of trade deal. Mr Corbyn finished by asking

:12:42.:12:47.

why she not called off the state visit of Mr Trump and cited the 1.7,

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I think it is 1.7 but perhaps it has risen since, by 1.7 million people

:12:56.:13:00.

who have signed the Parliamentary petition. There is another

:13:01.:13:04.

Parliamentary petition to say that he is welcome here, that is growing

:13:05.:13:08.

as well but it hasn't got 1.7 billion. We'll look at some of these

:13:09.:13:12.

things. What are our viewers saying? They are saying it was a strong

:13:13.:13:16.

performance by Theresa May, less so by Jeremy Corbyn. A viewer says,

:13:17.:13:22.

when will we stop trying to hit headlines rather than sensible

:13:23.:13:28.

debate? Helen Manning says that for the second week running Jeremy

:13:29.:13:31.

Corbyn hits the canvas and Theresa May looks like a towering figure.

:13:32.:13:35.

Ian White we said that Mrs May seemed to be ready by Jeremy

:13:36.:13:39.

Corbyn's questions, easy questions to respond to. Joseph Riley pledge

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inches x-rays, in my opinion the Prime Minister was right when people

:13:47.:13:55.

voted for him, don't keep labelling Donald Trump. Just like the UK voted

:13:56.:13:59.

for Brexit Comey you have got to go with the vote and you can't change

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it. We have a statement from Buckingham Palace to the Daily

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Politics. We know the Queen watches this programme! In fact, it has gone

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12:30pm, perhaps she has just bought herself a gym, probably to see

:14:16.:14:19.

herself through the second half of the programme! -- poured herself a

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Jin. So appalled with what she saw in the first bit! Buckingham Palace

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said only two US presidents have made state visits to the UK. Obama

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in 2011 and Bush, which would be Bush the second, in 2003. They say

:14:36.:14:43.

that at least since 1954, but they think ever. Probably because before

:14:44.:14:47.

then American presidents didn't come here. FDR never came to Britain. I

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think Woodrow Wilson might have done. Mr Reagan's visited the UK in

:14:53.:14:58.

1982 had many of the features of the state visit, like addressing

:14:59.:15:01.

Parliament and a banquet at Windsor Castle, but was a state visit. I

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think Buckingham Palace have a very narrow and particular view of what a

:15:10.:15:12.

state visit is. Obviously this is the Queen's view, we know that. That

:15:13.:15:18.

is what she thinks. She has only ever given... I'm pretty sure Mr

:15:19.:15:23.

Reagan thought it was a state visit. There is a debate about exactly what

:15:24.:15:27.

it is. I remember about the time of the Chinese premier coming here,

:15:28.:15:30.

there was a lot of chat behind-the-scenes. The thing he

:15:31.:15:33.

wanted above all else for the pictures of himself with Kate

:15:34.:15:38.

Middleton. That's what he wanted for the audience at home, said the chap

:15:39.:15:43.

behind-the-scenes. However, a debate about what exactly constitutes a

:15:44.:15:48.

state visit. I'm pretty sure that all of these presidents thought it

:15:49.:15:52.

was a state visit. I think they went back to the White House and said,

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wow, that was a great state visit! The Queen has slapped them down!

:15:58.:16:02.

Exactly, like Theresa May exactly slapped down... Who is the Queen,

:16:03.:16:06.

you could say? Didn't want that point of beer with David Cameron in

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the Cotswolds Pub! They wanted the images of him with Kate Middleton

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and at the doctor who sat with the Daleks -- the Doctor Who sat. When

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Mr Reagan came here with Nancy. I'm not a name-dropper, but Princess

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Diana told me that all Nancy wanted was pictures with the two boys.

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Those were her eggs act words as we lunched in Kensington Palace. He

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wanted the dance with Diana, presumably -- her exact words. She

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said, they wanted pictures with the two boys, but she said, it's not

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going to happen. What constitutes a state visit? What about addressing

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the joint session of Parliament? Would you like to see that? I think

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that's in the gift of Parliament. I'm not sure it is in the gift of

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the Government. It is something that Parliament has extended to other

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leaders. In my time here we have had the Pope and President Obama, the

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Canadian Prime Minister. I think we go the point again, this is the man

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who is the democratically elected leader of one of our closest

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friends. If Parliament has extended that the crust previously... It is a

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matter for Parliament. It is not automatic for a visiting president

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to do it -- extended that request. Many people think it should not be

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automatic. I think people felt Mr Obama, the first black president,

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hugely hissed significant historically -- hugely significant.

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At the time of Mr Reagan, there was a feeling that the special

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relationship was very special, so they did that. But it doesn't happen

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automatically. It shouldn't be automatic, should it? I don't think

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these things should be automatic, but it is a matter for Parliament. I

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support the state visit, that's all of our interests. If Parliament

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wishes to, I can't say I have a particularly strong view either way

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whether he comes and addresses Parliament or not. It is important

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that we recognise he is a democratically elected leader and he

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should be afforded the same visit as his predecessor had been. If he is

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coming here, is no doubt he will sometimes whether the state visit

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goes ahead or not, it may be in his interests that he doesn't address a

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joint session of Parliament. I think if he is here, he should do it. Both

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houses earlier this week, on also writes, act the special motion -- on

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all sides, backed the special motion calling his policies discriminatory,

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divisive and counter-productive. To be honest, the detail of the state

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visit is getting away from what is really important and really at

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stake, which is aspect of what he has announced, and the way that they

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contravene so many deeply held values. We had a robust discussion

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about that in the first half of this programme.

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Are we going to place those value judgments on every leader that comes

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here? There are plenty of leaders who have come here over the years

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whose domestic policies none of's support. We have to be very careful.

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Let's not get carried away with the detail. A lot of what Mr Corbyn

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Broad up, we already had quite a -- quite an extended discussion about.

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We didn't do much on the state visit. Mr Corbyn citing the 1.7

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million said they should cancel the state visit. Is that Labour policy

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to cancel the state visit? I'm not a totally sure either. Jeremy Corbyn

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has decided to take a strong line on this. As he brandished the F Theresa

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May that he received in reply from her, in a fairly clear attempt to

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make the comparison about Chamberlain waving a letter around,

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he has chosen to push our instead on the question of policy. Will she

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condemn what in his view is a violation of the Geneva Convention?

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I am not precisely clear what they are trying to achieve. It's

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interesting that John has just said he thinks Trump should...

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It wasn't clear in the interviews I've heard with Jeremy Corbyn. We

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are trying to clarify that with the party today. In the world of real

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politic, you could take the view that Mrs May rushed to quickly into

:20:46.:20:49.

a state visit. We know that state visit our limited, and I can't think

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of any time when it happened in the first year. You can take that view.

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But it is not -- is it not just in the world of real politic the die is

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cast, and we can't withdraw an invitation that has been given and

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accepted? Corbyn actually used the words, withdraw the invitation, in

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his question. These are all different ways of raising the same

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questions as a way of trying to highlight what is really important,

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which is as Laura Kuenssberg has said, the policy and the criticisms

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of what he is trying to sign into law through the executive order. For

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my money, that is the most important concern at stake. And that's where

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are really the Prime Minister has been slow. She has been weak. She

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has said it's divisive and wrong, finally. And both Houses have been

:21:41.:21:48.

stronger than the Prime Minister. Usain that the fact you didn't as an

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opposition complain about the Chinese President's visit, for

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example, are you saying you're comfortable with every Chinese

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policy then? No. Why wasn't there a petition, why weren't there marches

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in the streets and why wasn't Jeremy Corbyn demanding that his invitation

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be withdrawn? I don't understand why the one person who has a

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democratically elected mandate and shares our values, that we pull this

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particular instance output we were completely silent when it came to

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others whose domestic policies none bus would ever have any truck with.

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I find this whole thing bizarre and hypocritical.

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Just before you go, Woodrow Wilson was the first-ever US president to

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visit Europe, including the UK, in 1918. Andy was over for the Treaty

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of Versailles as well. The Senate in the end didn't sign. Buckingham

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Palace was not able to give us a formal definition of the state

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visit. I think we can make it up! Definitely there is a call for a

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Friday film on the daily politics. I have just checked Jeremy Corbyn's

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letter to Theresa May. It does say that he has written to Theresa May

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to the man she withdraw the invitation of a state visit. The

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Labour Party stands unequivocally with those demonstrating and calling

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for that. The policy is very clear. Sure we leave it there? We could

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talk for hours. Now, the European Capital of Culture

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is a title bestowed by the EU on one lucky city for a year,

:23:26.:23:29.

during which time it has to organise cultural events

:23:30.:23:31.

with a strong European dimension, and in return hopes for a boost

:23:32.:23:34.

in status and visitors. It's credited with making a big

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difference in Glasgow, The UK government has

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just asked cities to bid for the title in 2023 -

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which, the observant among you will notice,

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is after we will have left the EU. But undeterred, Truro is among those

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throwing its hat into the ring. Before we ask whether that's wise,

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what does Cornwall's Well, it's the UK's most

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southerly city, and in fact, It's home to a rather splendid

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gothic revival cathedral, one of only three in the country

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boasting three spires. There are some famous names related

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to Truro, including William Golding and Professor John Curtis. We are

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joined by Julian German, Cornwall county council's Cabinet member for

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culture. Assuming the UK leads the EU, what do you think the realistic

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possibility of true being made European city of culture in 2023?

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Good afternoon. I think there is a really good chance. The government

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have said they want to be continued -- continue to be outward looking

:24:53.:24:56.

that they want to work with EU partners and continue to play a role

:24:57.:24:59.

in some programmes. The CMS have opened bidding. That signals a level

:25:00.:25:03.

of confidence from government this will happen. Other places are

:25:04.:25:11.

looking at bidding. The government guidance says the UK is currently

:25:12.:25:19.

still a full member of the EU, therefore the application process

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will run as normal. There are a lot of good reasons we would want to be

:25:23.:25:26.

involved. I'm going to give you the advice the culture Department has

:25:27.:25:29.

given to bidding cities like true. We are committed for the UK to host

:25:30.:25:34.

the title in 2023, however bidding cities should be aware that the

:25:35.:25:45.

European capital... It goes on, the UK government bears no

:25:46.:25:47.

responsibility for the Finance and investment made by the cities and

:25:48.:25:51.

councils. In other words, it could be money down the drain. They have

:25:52.:25:56.

basically written a disclaimer. We recognise there is a risk but we

:25:57.:26:01.

recognise it is good value for money in any case. It brings a focus to

:26:02.:26:07.

Truro and count -- Cornwall. The wider region is involved, as with

:26:08.:26:14.

Marseille province last year. And what we want to do is get across

:26:15.:26:18.

what is happening in Cornwall and Truro, and the fact we are on the

:26:19.:26:23.

daily politics today talking about Truro and Cornwall shows that that

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is working. It may kill off your bid altogether! You are spending just

:26:31.:26:34.

more than ?500,000. I use sure people in Truro would agree it is a

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good way of spending that money? -- are you sure? We go through the

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process. The ?500,000 is for a full bid. What we have signed off is the

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full budget that will come back tuck Cornwall Council Cabinet before

:26:50.:26:52.

October, when the bid is put forward. That will take considerably

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less. That will take a son to the short list. We have spent investment

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in culture in Cornwall. The cultivator project, St Ives, Rob

:27:05.:27:12.

Ford creative business growth. That is extent -- expensively that is

:27:13.:27:16.

part of our strategy. It ties very much with that. And indeed with the

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government strategy around the culture White Paper and the

:27:22.:27:26.

industrial strategy. John Healey, can you imagine

:27:27.:27:30.

Jean-Claude Juncker commented cut the ribbon when it is announced it

:27:31.:27:34.

is going to be Truro as the European city of Culture once we have left,

:27:35.:27:38.

bearing in mind if you look at the website of the European commission

:27:39.:27:41.

it says eligible cities have to come from member states, candidate

:27:42.:27:49.

countries? We won't be any those. I can imagine it, actually. Istanbul

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has been City of Culture. They are a country that wants to join the EU. I

:27:56.:28:00.

think Jean-Claude Juncker will will be interested in those three spires.

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I say, go Truro. I think Theresa May hast to add a 13th point to plan for

:28:08.:28:14.

negotiating Brexit. Very timely as we have just announced more funding

:28:15.:28:23.

for Cornwall. I am from Hull, UK City of Culture. It has been a huge

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value. Thank you and goodbye. In guess the year, the answer was 1983.

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If you can press that Red Button... Well done. That is a great

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name. The One O'Clock News is starting

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over on BBC One now. Jo and I will be here at noon

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tomorrow, with all the big To be in the Lords,

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you have to be punctual... Sometimes you really do literally

:28:54.:29:04.

have to slam the door What right do they have to tell

:29:05.:29:07.

me about my fashion sense? Can you now control

:29:08.:29:12.

your bad language? Yes, I will. Otherwise you'll be,

:29:13.:29:17.

you know, drummed out.

:29:18.:29:21.

Local government minister Andrew Percy and shadow housing minister John Healey keep Andrew Neil and Jo Coburn company throughout the programme. They look at Donald Trump's first few days in power and discuss the controversy surrounding his state visit.

There is full coverage of Prime Minister's Questions, with Laura Kuenssberg giving her thoughts. And find out why Truro is applying to become European Capital of Culture after the UK has left the EU.


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