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Welcome to the Daily Politics and the last | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
day of campaigning ahead of tomorrow's general election. | :00:43. | :00:48. | |
The leaders have been clocking up the air miles. | :00:49. | :00:50. | |
Theresa May was pressing the flesh at a meat market at half five this | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
She's been talking about Brexit and new measures | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
Jeremy Corbyn began the day at a rally in Glasgow, | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
telling his supporters there are just 24 hours | :01:02. | :01:03. | |
But he's had to reshuffle his top team after Diane Abbott stands aside | :01:04. | :01:10. | |
The other party leaders are all out making their eleventh-hour | :01:11. | :01:14. | |
pitches to the voters, and we'll be looking back at how | :01:15. | :01:17. | |
this dramatic election campaign has unfolded. | :01:18. | :01:23. | |
And I'll have our usual step-by-step guide to election night to help | :01:24. | :01:26. | |
All that in the next hour - and with us for the duration, two men | :01:27. | :01:44. | |
hoping to be re-elected as MPs tomorrow - Ed Vaizey | :01:45. | :01:46. | |
for the Conservatives and David Lammy for Labour. | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
And what better way to round off their campaigns than by appearing | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
on the last Daily Politics election special? | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
I'm sorry, that should have read finish off their campaigns. We shall | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
see. Anyway, welcome to both of you. So today we'll be reflecting | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
on this final frenetic day of the election and looking back | :02:06. | :02:08. | |
at the whole of the campaign. But let's begin with a look | :02:09. | :02:11. | |
at the front pages. Most are still understandably | :02:12. | :02:13. | |
focused on the aftermath of the terror attack in London | :02:14. | :02:15. | |
at the weekend. But some have a more political angle | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
and the common theme is security. The Sun, picking up a story | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
from blogger Guido Fawkes, says Jeremy Corbyn gave a speech | :02:27. | :02:28. | |
at a demonstration attended by members of the outlawed | :02:29. | :02:30. | |
group Al-Muhajaroon, some said to be dressed | :02:31. | :02:32. | |
as suicide bombers Labour says it was a public event | :02:33. | :02:34. | |
and Mr Corbyn was not The Guardian's headline is 'May | :02:35. | :02:48. | |
threatens to dismantle human rights laws in wake of terror attacks', | :02:49. | :02:51. | |
following on from a speech by the Prime Minister last night | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
when she set out a series The Financial Times | :02:55. | :02:57. | |
leads on that story too. It says Theresa May is targeting | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
Labour heartlands and is 'ramping up the anti-terror rhetoric' | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
in response to criticism of her And the Daily Mail's headline | :03:06. | :03:07. | |
is "apologists for terror" with pictures of Jeremy Corbyn, | :03:08. | :03:20. | |
John McDonnell and Diane Abbott. The paper is no fan of Labour's top | :03:21. | :03:22. | |
team and says they have spent their whole career 'cosying up | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
to those who hate our country'. Well, let's take a look | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
at that announcement She's talking about tightening | :03:30. | :03:31. | |
restrictions on suspects, making it easier to expel foreign | :03:32. | :03:33. | |
offenders and, if necessary, opting out of some human | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
rights laws, which she says are used to block | :03:38. | :03:39. | |
efforts to deport terrorists. and then we'll hear from the Labour | :03:40. | :03:45. | |
leader Jeremy Corbyn responding. I mean longer prison | :03:46. | :03:54. | |
sentences for those convicted I mean making it easier | :03:55. | :03:56. | |
for the authorities to deport foreign terrorist suspects back | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
to their own country. And I mean doing more to restrict | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
the freedom and movements of terrorist subjects when we have | :04:05. | :04:09. | |
enough evidence to know they are a threat, but not enough | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
evidence to prosecute them in court. And if our human rights laws | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
stop us from doing it, we'll change the laws | :04:20. | :04:21. | |
so we can do it. We won't defeat terrorism | :04:22. | :04:32. | |
by ripping up our basic We defeat terrorism by our | :04:33. | :04:34. | |
communities, by our vigilance, and by police action to isolate | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
and detain those that Obviously, if somebody is a foreign | :04:38. | :04:39. | |
national resident in Britain who is committing crimes, | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
then clearly, the law The issue is police numbers | :04:45. | :04:46. | |
and police security. That was the Prime Minister and | :04:47. | :04:58. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. Ed Vaizey, three weeks ago when Theresa May launch | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
the Tory manifesto, she guaranteed the Human Rights Act would continue | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
to apply and we would remain subject to the European Court of Human | :05:10. | :05:12. | |
Rights. Is that still valid? As far as I am aware, it is still valid and | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
there are plenty in the Conservative Party you support the articles on | :05:17. | :05:26. | |
human rights. What she said yesterday was deaf. If our human | :05:27. | :05:30. | |
rights laws get in the way of doing it, we will change the laws. But | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
that is not what she said in a manner that still? What you said in | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
the manifesto was that we would remain a signatory to the European | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
convention and we would have a Human Rights Act. -- in her manifesto. In | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
France, as you know, you can opt out of bits of the European convention. | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
So is that a possibility? I am not a Home Office minister and I am not | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
privy to the Prime Minister's thinking but logically it would be a | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
possibility for the UK if it felt it necessary as other countries has | :05:59. | :06:05. | |
done, as Ireland did during the troubles, to derivate from it if | :06:06. | :06:07. | |
they feel it necessary. There will be a range of things they could | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
potentially do. She says that if our human rights laws get in the way, we | :06:13. | :06:15. | |
will change the law. How do you change the human rights of ECA char? | :06:16. | :06:27. | |
As I say, you can have a derivation. -- ECHR. You would have a Human | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
Rights Act that you can potentially amend. She said in the manifesto, we | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
will not repeal or replace. I think the interesting thing, we can talk | :06:36. | :06:44. | |
about process or the substance of what people are having to face up | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
to. But we're talking about someone who was Home Secretary for six | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
years. Two things come from these terrible events in Manchester and | :06:54. | :06:55. | |
London and one is this grey area where you know people are extremists | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
but they have not committed a crime. It is quite clear that the guy who | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
was on the Channel 4 documentary was on the extremes but the authorities | :07:06. | :07:07. | |
felt they couldn't do anything because he had not committed a | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
crime. The Prime Minister made it explicit that that is clearly an | :07:12. | :07:14. | |
area of concern. How do you deal with this when people go right up to | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
the edge of breaking the law? The authorities know that common sense | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
dictates that they are risk. So why did you not seek control orders? The | :07:25. | :07:30. | |
control orders were consistently struck down. So you change the laws | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
to make sure that the course can do that. But these were much softer. We | :07:34. | :07:39. | |
wanted to make sure they were not consistently struck down. There is | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
no point having a tough law if it gets knocked back every time. It is | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
more important to have a law that the courts accept. Was it a mistake | :07:48. | :07:54. | |
to scrap control orders? No. I think you can scrap the concept of control | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
orders and still put controls on people who you think are a danger to | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
the public and you can use it through this new process. It is not | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
necessary because the courts can't overturning them. How many of these | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
not so tough control orders have you had? This is not the traditional | :08:11. | :08:21. | |
survivor, where you test my knowledge. -- traditional ECHR. It | :08:22. | :08:34. | |
is probably like 100. It is not like 100. Having opposed Mr Blair when he | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
wanted a longer time to be able to detain suspects, Theresa May now | :08:39. | :08:40. | |
looks like she wants more detention as well. Well, if you remember Mr | :08:41. | :08:49. | |
Blair... 28 days. He put out a proposal for 48 days. He, my | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
standing coalition, we were reduced to 14 days. So you played coalition | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
politics rather than the security of the country. That was give-and-take | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
on both sides about what people thought were appropriate. Let me | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
give you one final question. Why would longer prison sentences, as | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
Mrs May has called for, why would that deter those, as in Westminster, | :09:13. | :09:17. | |
Manchester and London Bridge, who are on a suicide mission? I think | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
what people are talking about is a range of measures to combat that | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
terrorist threat. But longer prison sentences would make no difference | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
to those people who carried out suicide attacks? It may be that if | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
you are able to look at how you catch people before they commit | :09:35. | :09:40. | |
these crimes, and extend the prosecution, putting them away from | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
longer, it will keep the public sector. I am sure there are hundreds | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
of people who are due to be released and the public would think, | :09:50. | :09:51. | |
actually, that person could still potentially pose a threat and we | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
wish they had been given a longer prison sentence. I think it is | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
possible, perfectly possible to look at a range of different measures to | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
combat terrorism. You want to respond to that? Just to say that | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
look, I was in Belmarsh prison a few weeks ago with some men there that | :10:07. | :10:13. | |
have been put there because of terrorism. And these are seriously | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
bad people. They need to be kept under house arrest. They need to be | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
permanently tanked. We need to control who they can speak to and | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
liaise with. Which was the original control orders. And that was watered | :10:28. | :10:33. | |
down. Would you like to bring this back? I am for it. These are bad | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
people and the need to be controlled. Do you accept that | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
control orders were consistently overturned by the court, it was a | :10:42. | :10:44. | |
unilateral decision. In coalition with the Liberal Democrats you | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
watered down. That is what happened. Let me ask you this, David Lammy. | :10:51. | :10:57. | |
Because it interesting, you say you would like to go back to that | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
control order. But as your leader, Mr Corbyn, has he ever voted for any | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
toughening of the anti-terrorist laws? He hasn't, never. Does that | :11:06. | :11:12. | |
make you uneasy? Well, he wasn't leading the Labour Party at the | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
time. He was speaking from the backbenches. And you will find... | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
Does that matter? Is the man who could be our next Prime Minister and | :11:21. | :11:28. | |
indeed boasted in 2011, quote, I have been involved in opposing | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
anti-terrorist legislation ever since I first went into Parliament | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
in 1983. Theresa May voted against same-sex legislation. She has | :11:37. | :11:44. | |
voted... Lets stick to the anti-terror legislation. The point | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
is, Andrew, of course you can go back in a parliamentary career of 30 | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
years. But he never voted once. You could find things in a backbencher's | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
record that do not stand up. I have not denied that he never voted. I am | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
answering your question. Why should we trust the security of this | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
country to someone who is opposed and has opposed every effort to | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
toughen up anti-terrorism legislation? That is a decision for | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
the electorates tomorrow. But what is your answer to my question? We | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
should not be judging him on the basis of that, we should be basing | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
it on what he is saying today. What he's saying today is that it is the | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
Conservatives that watered down control orders and cut the police | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
budgets under Theresa May, that is the government that we have had and | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
is what they stand for. Andrew izzard, at a time when we're | :12:34. | :12:35. | |
probably more dependent on the security services than ever before, | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
who is it that a couple of years ago wanted to abolish MI5? I am not | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
aware of that one. John McDonnell, the number two. I am so unaware of | :12:45. | :12:53. | |
that. He signed a document and indeed there is a picture of him | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
holding this document. He wanted to abolish MI5. So you have a leader | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
who has never supported any toughening of the anti-terrorism | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
situation and a number two, a Shadow Chancellor who wanted to abolish | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
MI5. Well, you're putting that to me and I have never heard of before. I | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
assume if they wanted to do it he wanted to replace it with something | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
else. Well, he also wanted to abolish armed police. All of these | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
individuals were on the backbenches for years. And they are now subject | :13:26. | :13:34. | |
to... It is your responsibility, can I pick up on collective | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
responsibility. Briefly. Are you going to sit here and say to Andrew | :13:39. | :13:41. | |
that the Tories are weak and you want tough control orders? Your | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
Brexit secretary, Kier Starmer, has been touring the studios this | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
morning saying that Theresa May is wrong to question the Human Rights | :13:49. | :13:51. | |
Act yet you are here to say you will bring in tough anti-terrorism is. | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
Nobody believes a word of it because Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell had | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
been sympathetic to terrorism for the last 30 years. But she turned on | :13:59. | :14:06. | |
national insurance, and has you turned on the dementia tax and now | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
she is U-turning on this. How can you trust someone who you turns like | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
that? But we're talking about security, the security of the | :14:14. | :14:17. | |
nation, and we're talking about lives. We're talking about an | :14:18. | :14:21. | |
election campaign which has seen two terrorist attacks during the | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
campaign itself. Is it a disadvantage that your leader seems | :14:27. | :14:33. | |
to be addressing lots of meetings over the years of people who are | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
extremists, Islamist, anti-Semites, homophobes, misogynists. He has | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
addressed these various groups. This latest one, there is a group in the | :14:44. | :14:49. | |
audience shouting, gas the dues, gas Tel Aviv, and he is addressing that | :14:50. | :14:56. | |
group. Does that not concern you? I find that deeply offensive. Any | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
suggestion of gassing Tel Aviv or anything that is about attacking our | :15:01. | :15:08. | |
friends in Israel, I think is full. But what I would say is that on a | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
programme like this, at the end of the election, no offence, you have | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
spent the last few minutes on the past. How else to judge you? How | :15:18. | :15:25. | |
else can I judge you? I have to judge you by your record. I expect | :15:26. | :15:28. | |
that the manifesto and going forward, the Conservative record is | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
a regular government of cutting police, watering down control | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
orders, and ending the preventer gender. That is their record and you | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
are talking about backbenchers in the past. | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
The viewers and voters will determine. | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
Let's find out how the parties are spending the final | :15:47. | :15:49. | |
day of this campaign. Adam Fleming has all the details. | :15:50. | :15:51. | |
I'm spending the last few hours of the Daily Politics at Westminster on | :15:52. | :15:58. | |
College Green, which has been turned into a tented media for the media to | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
cover the elections. I got in trouble with CNN for photo bombing | :16:04. | :16:09. | |
them. Hello, world. That is the BBC sport up there. I hope you have a | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
head for heights. It is windy as well. I am sure it will be an | :16:14. | :16:19. | |
enjoyable watch. As is customary, the last 24 hour sees party leaders | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
running around like headless chickens, but it is a carefully | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
choreographed dash for votes. Here is what has happened this morning. | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
Ridiculously early o'clock and the PM was taking the phrase meet and | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
greet literally by visiting Smithfield market. Obviously not | :16:38. | :16:43. | |
courting of Eden vote, then. Listen carefully and you can hear a handful | :16:44. | :16:53. | |
of butchers booing. BOOING Lib Dem leader Tim Farron was in | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
Solihull to continue his cooking Tour of Britain. He whipped up | :16:57. | :17:04. | |
sausages with sauerkraut as a warning against what he calls a hard | :17:05. | :17:12. | |
Tory breakfast... I mean, Brexit. In Glasgow, the Labour leader held | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
the first of six rallies today. Behind the scenes, shadow police Mr | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
Lyn Brown took over from the Shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott, who is | :17:21. | :17:27. | |
still ill. Actually, Jeremy has been sounding a bit cranky lately. They | :17:28. | :17:30. | |
claimed my voice was bad. Outrageous. My voice is... Fine! Mrs | :17:31. | :17:37. | |
May was at a bowling club in Southampton fresh from revelations | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
that he ran through wheat fields as a child. We learned another personal | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
gem about the PM. Her teen order. Cup of tea, no milk. Thanks for | :17:47. | :17:53. | |
coming out. Something stronger for Tim Farron, by this point, he was in | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
a pub in St Albans to talk about business rates. | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
Poor muscle to Ukip's message to Great Yarmouth. They love a market, | :18:04. | :18:10. | |
these politicians. Mr Corbyn and his press entourage have just arrived | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
for a speech in a field in Runcorn. As we speak, Caroline Lucas is in | :18:16. | :18:18. | |
the green spot of Brighton. Theresa May has touched down in Norfolk in | :18:19. | :18:26. | |
the last dash for votes. The dash will continue over lunch | :18:27. | :18:29. | |
time this afternoon and into deceiving. Theresa May is going | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
North Norfolk to the Midlands. The Lib Dems are going West to Oxford | :18:34. | :18:39. | |
and Bristol. That is where Jonathan Bartley will be. At midnight, the | :18:40. | :18:47. | |
only thing that will be blowing through here is the Tumbleweed, | :18:48. | :18:54. | |
because we will all be legally silent on polling day until 10pm | :18:55. | :18:57. | |
when we get the exit poll. Thanks, Adam. Legally silent for 24 hours or | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
less, enjoy it. Now, compared to the 2015 | :19:03. | :19:05. | |
election, when the deficit There's been relatively little | :19:06. | :19:08. | |
discussion of the public finances That's not because the deficit has | :19:09. | :19:15. | |
disappeared, it's still there, although a third of the size | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
of what it was in 2010. So we thought we'd remind | :19:21. | :19:23. | |
you of where the two main parties stand when it comes to the economy, | :19:24. | :19:26. | |
and how they plan to balance The Conservatives have | :19:27. | :19:29. | |
said their plan is to eliminate the budget deficit by 2025, | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
10 years on from their They've ruled out a rise in VAT, | :19:33. | :19:35. | |
but have made no specific pledges on national insurance contributions | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
or the rate of income tax. They will, however, go ahead | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
with their planned tax cuts by increasing the personal tax | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
allowance and the higher While also fulfilling a previous | :19:48. | :19:49. | |
pledge to cut corporation tax on businesses to 17% by 2020, | :19:50. | :19:59. | |
making it the lowest rate Labour's plan is to spend ?25 | :20:00. | :20:01. | |
billion a year on infrastructure, a policy that could boost growth | :20:02. | :20:10. | |
in the short term but would add They've gone further | :20:11. | :20:13. | |
than the Conservatives in promising no increases in national insurance | :20:14. | :20:19. | |
as well as no rise in VAT. But they do plan to reintroduce | :20:20. | :20:25. | |
the 50p tax rate and raise income As well as increasing | :20:26. | :20:28. | |
the corporation tax rate Both parties have also said they'll | :20:29. | :20:34. | |
be looking at changes to other major The Conservatives are promising | :20:35. | :20:42. | |
a review of business rates, to take better account | :20:43. | :20:50. | |
of online businesses. Although the party's previous | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
attempts to reform business rates While Labour is courting | :20:54. | :20:55. | |
controversy of its own, it's promising a review of council | :20:56. | :21:04. | |
tax and business rates, and suggests instead | :21:05. | :21:06. | |
a tax on the value of the land. Let's pick up on the last idea. | :21:07. | :21:19. | |
David Lammy, a land value tax to replace council tax and business | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
rates, do you approve of that? Actually, in the book I wrote after | :21:24. | :21:32. | |
the 2010 election, I refloated the idea of a land value tax the two | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
reasons. One, because at the moment we have council tax, which is | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
effectively our tax on property. It has not been revalued since 1991. I | :21:42. | :21:48. | |
think that is grossly unfair. Two, because here, if you are serious | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
about the North and south divide, here in the south of England, | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
effectively, there are people making more on their home in a year than | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
people get paid. If you are able to play the lottery of land, and that | :22:04. | :22:07. | |
is the case for those of us of a certain age who bought property | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
20-30 years ago, or those who inherit from their parents, you can | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
make huge gains. For that reason, it is right to look at land. You can | :22:18. | :22:24. | |
redistribute money in a different way. We need a better formula for | :22:25. | :22:33. | |
taxing those individuals. Right, but it could mean that ordinary people | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
in not very expensive homes, particularly in London and the | :22:39. | :22:41. | |
south-east, could pay a lot more. We have had no details about this land | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
value tax and how it will be calibrated. But assuming it will be | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
small, 2% or 3%, you can end up paying two or three times as much | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
per year as you currently do on council tax. It about fairness. In a | :22:56. | :23:01. | |
sense, are we going to stick with the council tax where the bands have | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
not been relived at the 26 years, or should we consult looking at | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
something different? I think the manifesto Sibley says let's have a | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
look. I understand that. But any calculation I have seen involving | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
people whose council tax at the moment may be ?1000 a year, ?1200, | :23:20. | :23:26. | |
under this formula, even on modest land value taxation assumptions, it | :23:27. | :23:32. | |
goes up to two, three, 4000 a year for ordinary families. My view is | :23:33. | :23:38. | |
the current system is unfair on young people. It's an unfair on | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
people beyond London and the south-east. Would it be fair to | :23:43. | :23:48. | |
increase a very generous... To double or triple their local taxes, | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
would that be fair? I don't recognise that. You haven't done the | :23:53. | :23:58. | |
work. Come on, the burden of this will fall on some very rich people | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
in London. The burden will fall on everybody. That's how it works. | :24:04. | :24:10. | |
Unless you read. I was in Yorkshire yesterday, how did they end up | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
paying more out of this scheme? -- unless you rent. Particularly in the | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
London and south-east area, they would pay more, including your | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
constituents. Not my constituency! Of course they would. Most of my | :24:25. | :24:32. | |
constituents are in private rented or council homes. Not my | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
constituents at all. If you want to redistribute wealth to the north and | :24:37. | :24:40. | |
rebalance the economy, London... All right. We need to look at this, of | :24:41. | :24:48. | |
course we do! Where's the Chancellor? He's a lot more visible | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
than John McDonnell, I can tell you that! I think I read on a website | :24:54. | :25:00. | |
today that he has got the third most mentions in the media after Amber | :25:01. | :25:03. | |
Rudd and Boris Johnson. That is because people like me asking where | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
he is. Busy missing the election? I follow him on Twitter. You should | :25:08. | :25:13. | |
follow him on Twitter. He has been in a lot of Labour seats. Why is he | :25:14. | :25:18. | |
excluded from the National campaign? He has been prominent. He likes to | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
pound the pavements. He's the Chancellor. Why have you not fought | :25:22. | :25:28. | |
this campaign in any way on your economic record? That is a fair | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
point. I wish we had talked about our economic record. We have created | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
3 million jobs. We have reduced tax the 31 million people. Are you | :25:39. | :25:45. | |
ashamed of it? We have cut the deficit by two thirds. We have a | :25:46. | :25:48. | |
fantastic record. Why no mention of it? I don't remember Mrs made making | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
a speech about it? The election takes on a life of its own. Also, | :25:55. | :26:00. | |
not of the theme when we started the election was about Brexit and other | :26:01. | :26:03. | |
issues have taken over. Not the economy. We haven't talked enough | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
about the land value tax. We have done that. Can you remember a | :26:09. | :26:15. | |
previous campaign in which the Conservatives, all parties, made so | :26:16. | :26:21. | |
little about the economy? Well, I have been campaigning since probably | :26:22. | :26:26. | |
the 1987 election. I don't remember all campaigns. Somebody said to me | :26:27. | :26:33. | |
last night, in 1992, just as you would engulf the Tory party, Europe | :26:34. | :26:39. | |
did not feature in the election campaign. The economy has always | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
been central. People are obsessed about it, but you have given me the | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
opportunity to talk about our economic record, for which I am | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
grateful. On the labour policy, this extra 50 billion a year of current | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
spending, I put aside what you would borrow to invest as well, but on | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
current spending, 50 billion, and it will come, you say you will raise it | :27:02. | :27:09. | |
from companies and the rich, or at least the much better off. The ISS | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
is clear, it says "You cannot raise that amount of money for only | :27:15. | :27:23. | |
countries and the rich." It is not quite 50 billion, that is the first | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
thing. Let's get the figure right. There are some on Costa promises as | :27:29. | :27:34. | |
well. 50 billion is a nice, round figure. You cannot raise that from | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
countries and the bridge alone. "It Doesn't add up stock" that is what | :27:40. | :27:47. | |
the ISS says. We have been very clear that we want to see a | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
corporation tax rise to 26% and not 19%. That is corporations. You won't | :27:52. | :27:58. | |
get that amount of money. We think there should be writers for those on | :27:59. | :28:04. | |
80,000 a year. We should return to a 50p income tax rate for very high | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
earners. We think... You can't raise that amount of money. What... What | :28:11. | :28:22. | |
if you don't? What if... You borrow more that is a decision for a | :28:23. | :28:29. | |
Chancellor, as you know that may be one of the reasons you haven't | :28:30. | :28:32. | |
talked too much about the economy is what has happened to public sector | :28:33. | :28:34. | |
pay. It is at its lowest in relation to | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
private sector pay since the government started collecting data. | :28:39. | :28:40. | |
It looks pretty bad stop it looks like public sector workers | :28:41. | :28:51. | |
are still feeling the pinch and bearing the brunt. Not only have we | :28:52. | :28:57. | |
created 3 million jobs, we have taken a lot of people completely out | :28:58. | :29:00. | |
of tax, raising the tax threshold for people on low incomes and | :29:01. | :29:04. | |
introduced the national minimum wage. And squeezed public sector | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
pay. There have been a lot of initiatives to help people on lower | :29:09. | :29:13. | |
pay. I think our economic record stands for itself. One reason we | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
haven't talked about it, we did take a leaf out of David Lammy's book and | :29:18. | :29:20. | |
we look into the future, like Brexit, the choice between Theresa | :29:21. | :29:28. | |
May and Jeremy Corbin. We need to move on. | :29:29. | :29:36. | |
Today we will take stock of the campaigns one and of April. Let's | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
begin with the highlights and not so highlights. | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
I have just chaired a meeting of the Cabinet where we agreed | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
that the government should call a general election. | :29:50. | :29:52. | |
I'll be talking about... Strong and stable leadership? | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
There is a reason to talking about strong and stable leadership. | :29:58. | :30:03. | |
There is a risk that people will kind of say, | :30:04. | :30:09. | |
"Well, he's just an Islingtonian herbivore, | :30:10. | :30:11. | |
The manifesto to see us through Brexit and beyond. | :30:12. | :30:36. | |
Four days ago, your manifesto rejected a cap on social care costs. | :30:37. | :30:48. | |
Nothing has changed from the prinicples on social care | :30:49. | :30:50. | |
policy that we set out in our manifesto. | :30:51. | :30:52. | |
Let's be clear, we have not changed the principles that we set | :30:53. | :30:54. | |
He has this money tree wish list in his manifesto. | :30:55. | :31:05. | |
There isn't a magic money tree that we can shake that suddenly | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
provides for everything that people want. | :31:09. | :31:10. | |
When it comes to taking on extremism and terrorism, | :31:11. | :31:12. | |
We have protected counterterrorism policing budgets. | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Theresa May. | :31:17. | :31:18. | |
During this Tory campaign have been a number of U-turns. The act of | :31:19. | :31:40. | |
holding a election was a U-turn, because we were told were not going | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
have one. Now it is the wider Conservative brand, and we have seen | :31:45. | :31:47. | |
a U-turn on some terrorism issues as well. Where is strong and stable? | :31:48. | :31:55. | |
I'm not sure I would characterise that as a U-turn. I don't know why | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
you were saying there should be a U-turn on terrorism legislation. We | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
have talked about that at length. Because you were talking about | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
detention, and you are talking... The prime ministers perfectly | :32:09. | :32:10. | |
entitled to talk about what we need to do to make our country safer. | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
That is what the country would expect. In terms of social care, we | :32:16. | :32:19. | |
made it very clear that we would have a cap in the sense that you | :32:20. | :32:23. | |
would be able to keep ?100,000 of savings. It was interesting to hear | :32:24. | :32:27. | |
David Lammy, who presumably has been running around for the last few | :32:28. | :32:30. | |
weeks saying that it is a disgrace that your house is being taken into | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
account. Well, your house is not taken into account when you are | :32:36. | :32:41. | |
alive, and he is interested in a land tax. Actually, I have been | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
saying that this is a woman who will negotiate for Europe and she has now | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
U-turn to three times in a week. How will she stand up to 2017? Your | :32:51. | :32:59. | |
proposals, the dimension tax, she U-turns on that. It is weakness. -- | :33:00. | :33:06. | |
the dementia tax. No doubt many people will express on Twitter that | :33:07. | :33:10. | |
they dislike this kind of exchange between politicians. You might say | :33:11. | :33:13. | |
that they are U-turns but the fact is that Theresa May, in our | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
manifesto, put forward some challenging policies on issues like | :33:19. | :33:21. | |
social care and the Winter fuel payments. And she has been attacked | :33:22. | :33:28. | |
on those challenging policies, and she is facing up to them and putting | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
them to the country, whereas Labour are simply offering an endless list | :33:33. | :33:36. | |
of freebies, paid for on the never-never? If that is true, why | :33:37. | :33:42. | |
did you started this campaign 20 points ahead of the polls and are | :33:43. | :33:47. | |
now in some neck and neck. What has gone right? I'm going to answer it | :33:48. | :33:53. | |
in my inevitable question. The other thing that puts people off | :33:54. | :33:56. | |
politicians is when they say the only thing that matters is the | :33:57. | :34:01. | |
polls. And I have to say that in this case, I have never felt it | :34:02. | :34:04. | |
more. Because the polling is all over the place and it is not what is | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
happening on the ground. If the polling was so good, David Lammy | :34:10. | :34:12. | |
would not have spent yesterday in Yorkshire at three marginal Labour | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
seats. He would have spent them at three Tory marginal seats if they | :34:17. | :34:19. | |
thought Labour could win. We know what is happening on the ground. | :34:20. | :34:24. | |
There are going to be a lot of eggs on a lot of pollster's faces. Have | :34:25. | :34:33. | |
you ever seen a more poor Tory campaign? We can talk about the | :34:34. | :34:38. | |
wobble in 1986. This is not a wobble, this is a loss of a lead. I | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
think the great Sunday times, 30 years later we still talk about an | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
election wobble. Let's not beat about the bush, we start as the | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
favourites in this campaign, and I think the media have done a good job | :34:52. | :34:54. | |
of making it look like it is going to be a close election. The media | :34:55. | :34:59. | |
has done that? Given the issues that we have talked about in terms of | :35:00. | :35:04. | |
Jeremy Corbyn's fitness for office, his constant sucking up to terrorist | :35:05. | :35:10. | |
organisations... But the bigger government in this campaign, first | :35:11. | :35:13. | |
of all Mr Corbyn now looks like he is enjoying this election, and not | :35:14. | :35:17. | |
desperate for it to end, actually. He is enjoying it. Mrs May looks | :35:18. | :35:21. | |
like she can't wait to get over it and to bring it to an end. It has | :35:22. | :35:27. | |
been like a form of Chinese water torture for. I should not be | :35:28. | :35:33. | |
laughing... But it is intensely subjective, that analysis. I cannot | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
possibly answer it, given that is your view of what Theresa May has | :35:38. | :35:44. | |
been feeling. But her personal ratings were stratospheric and they | :35:45. | :35:47. | |
now have come way down. You get this line trotted out that she will not | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
answer questions. She has travelled five times more than Jeremy Corbyn, | :35:52. | :35:54. | |
and in five or six times more questions from the media. She has | :35:55. | :35:59. | |
been all over the country and the great thing about, she has been to | :36:00. | :36:04. | |
Labour marginals that we hope to take. Jeremy Corbyn has stuck to his | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
heartlands and he will not get out of the heartlands to face Tory | :36:09. | :36:12. | |
voters to win them over. But yes no, do you regret calling this election | :36:13. | :36:16. | |
close? I did not collared close. Elections are hard work. But I am | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
glad and I think we will come back with a stronger mandate. We shall | :36:22. | :36:27. | |
see. In about 36 hours. Anyway, that was the Conservatives. | :36:28. | :36:32. | |
It's the establishment versus the people. | :36:33. | :36:37. | |
It's our historic duty to make sure that people prevail. | :36:38. | :36:46. | |
How much would 10,000 police officers cost? | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
We believe it will be about ?300,000. | :36:51. | :36:52. | |
Mr Lavery, Mr Green, where is Mr Corbyn? | :36:53. | :37:04. | |
Our manifesto will be an offer, and we believe the policies | :37:05. | :37:07. | |
Why would the British people want as their leader a man | :37:08. | :37:18. | |
I didn't support the IRA, I don't support the IRA. | :37:19. | :37:22. | |
Do you regret your support for the IRA back in the 80s? | :37:23. | :37:26. | |
That particular quote you are referring to comes | :37:27. | :37:31. | |
from a now defunct left newspaper, and it had, as well... | :37:32. | :37:36. | |
Fair is when you bring people in when they've got jobs to come | :37:37. | :37:44. | |
to or it is necessary for them to come to workhere, or we need them | :37:45. | :37:47. | |
Whether the community gets together to support everybody, | :37:48. | :37:56. | |
or we just let the rich get richer, and the rest suffer. | :37:57. | :37:59. | |
I'll give you the figure in a moment. | :38:00. | :38:06. | |
You've announced a major policy and you don't know | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
David Lammy, Jeremy Corbyn couldn't recall the cost of his childcare | :38:12. | :38:28. | |
policy on the day he was launching it. John McDonnell, the Shadow | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
Chancellor, didn't know the size of the budget deficit and Diane Abbott | :38:34. | :38:36. | |
didn't know the cost of extra police officers promised in the manifesto, | :38:37. | :38:41. | |
nor the contents of the report on London policing, although she is a | :38:42. | :38:44. | |
London MP like you. Is your leadership up to running the | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
country? In every election cycle there are moments when quizzed about | :38:50. | :38:56. | |
particular figures in a certain way, you haven't quite got the numbers. I | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
remember in the last campaign that was a real problem for Natalie | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
Bennett, running for the greens, on housing. Things come up. I remember | :39:06. | :39:10. | |
being the first person on the news after John Prescott punched | :39:11. | :39:15. | |
somebody. Natalie Bennett was never going to be Prime Minister. All | :39:16. | :39:19. | |
these things come up. Mr Corbyn couldn't remember childcare on the | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
day he was launching the policy. Look, come on, I think in the end a | :39:24. | :39:31. | |
lot of people went into this election is almost assuming that | :39:32. | :39:33. | |
Jeremy Corbyn would be running scared. He has had a fantastic | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
campaign because he is a great campaigner, and as you have just | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
said, he is relishing it and the polls have closed as a consequence. | :39:44. | :39:47. | |
But what I asked was whether, not as campaigning abilities, which I agree | :39:48. | :39:51. | |
with you, have strengthened as the election has gone on, what I asked | :39:52. | :39:57. | |
was whether he, Mr McDonnell and Diane Abbott were competent enough | :39:58. | :40:00. | |
to run the country? Of course they are. We were worried at the point at | :40:01. | :40:07. | |
which there was a leak of our manifesto, and we got a bounce as a | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
consequence because it is a great manifesto. And actually, when you | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
knock on doors, people know the policies. They like what they are | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
hearing. About income tax. But if you are about to be the Shadow Home | :40:21. | :40:23. | |
Secretary, and do we know how Diane Abbott is? I sent her a message this | :40:24. | :40:30. | |
morning but I have not heard back. We know she is not well. But we do | :40:31. | :40:36. | |
not know how is. On the basis that she would be the next Home | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
Secretary, proposing 20,000 extra police officers, surely it is basic | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
competence to know what that would cost? Look, we're going back over | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
old ground. But it is the election, we are talking about the election | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
campaign! That is the point of the statement! It is about the election | :40:55. | :41:02. | |
campaign! He has given up now. It is not about Gladstone versus Disraeli, | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
it is about carbon versus Theresa May! -- Jeremy Corbyn versus Theresa | :41:07. | :41:14. | |
May. She got one interview wrong. The press has been mercilessly she | :41:15. | :41:18. | |
then got another one wrong on the Harris report. The press has been | :41:19. | :41:23. | |
mercilessly. But it is the whole thrust of our campaign, which is a | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
great manifesto on any analysis, traction in the country and the poll | :41:29. | :41:31. | |
closing. That is the story. Let me ask you this, it has been | :41:32. | :41:38. | |
interesting because you can often tell where parties hope to do well | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
by where the leaders and the other top people in that party go. And the | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
Tories have been going to lots of seats that years ago they would not | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
have had a hope of winning in the Midlands or the North. They must now | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
think they have, but your leader has essentially gone to areas which are | :41:53. | :41:59. | |
already solid Labour areas. What does that tell us? Look, I think | :42:00. | :42:05. | |
there is another story in this election. He is going over old | :42:06. | :42:12. | |
ground. There is another story, and that is returned to party politics. | :42:13. | :42:16. | |
It is the case that there are people who voted Ukip and those Ukip voters | :42:17. | :42:23. | |
are up for grabs, and are returning to mainstream parties. So of course | :42:24. | :42:28. | |
the Labour Party is in those areas persuading those voters to come back | :42:29. | :42:35. | |
to Labour. But you tended to go to seats where, not you personally but | :42:36. | :42:44. | |
your party leader, where Mr Corbyn, even if the Ukip vote collapsed to | :42:45. | :42:47. | |
the Tories, the Tories would still not win. Gateshead, last night. We | :42:48. | :42:55. | |
have been all over the country. Jeremy has been all over the | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
country, permanently on the road. And Diane Abbott, if you were | :43:01. | :43:04. | |
watching, we wish you a speedy recovery and we hope that illness | :43:05. | :43:08. | |
goes away very quickly. Making predictions the day before a general | :43:09. | :43:12. | |
election is a mugs game that year on the daily Latics, we are well-known | :43:13. | :43:13. | |
for her remarks. What are the bookies thinking? After | :43:14. | :43:34. | |
seven weeks of campaigning, the big question is are the Tories going to | :43:35. | :43:40. | |
fail at the final hurdles? They are 1-10 favourites for most tomorrow | :43:41. | :43:45. | |
but a month ago, it would have been a short as 1-50. The momentum has | :43:46. | :43:50. | |
certainly been with Jeremy Corbyn, and Labour is now in at 6-1. | :43:51. | :43:55. | |
Yesterday, customer placed a bet of ?1000 at 1000-1 on the greens | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
winning most seats. Good luck to that chap because I was not aware | :44:01. | :44:03. | |
that pigs could fly but the Tories are still the favourites here and | :44:04. | :44:06. | |
they have been the favourites for most votes. That is gone 21-6. But | :44:07. | :44:12. | |
the big move in the last few days comes with the thinking that there | :44:13. | :44:15. | |
will be a hung parliament. That is now just a 9-2 shot for an overall | :44:16. | :44:21. | |
majority. Labour, still a very big price to get that majority and get | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
over the line. But the Prime Minister, on the 1st of July, if | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
there is a hung parliament, punters think that Theresa May could be in | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
there but will she be in a better position than she was at the start | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
of April before she called this snap election? We still think she is the | :44:37. | :44:42. | |
favourite, but Jeremy Corbyn, over 70% of the bets have been for him. A | :44:43. | :44:46. | |
lot of punters are thinking that Theresa May might have to stand | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
down, having called this, and they might win not as convincingly as | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
they thought they would, so Amber Rudd has come into 200-1, after her | :44:56. | :45:00. | |
performance in the debates. Boris Johnson, someone had ?2000 on him in | :45:01. | :45:07. | |
a shop at Chelsea. I cannot see that happening. I think you need somebody | :45:08. | :45:11. | |
more strong and stable, you could say. Hammond is in there as 50-1 but | :45:12. | :45:15. | |
it is all going towards the Tories as we get into the final 24 hours. | :45:16. | :45:20. | |
That money is coming out but it is worth noting that there is a deja vu | :45:21. | :45:25. | |
scenario, similar to Brexit and the US election, in that there is more | :45:26. | :45:30. | |
money going on the favourites but more individual money going on the | :45:31. | :45:32. | |
outsiders. Time will tell tomorrow there is right. The bookies, the | :45:33. | :45:36. | |
statisticians, the pollsters, who knows? But we reckon the Tories. | :45:37. | :45:42. | |
You have odds of 2-9 for a Conservative majority, you need ?9 | :45:43. | :45:52. | |
on two win ?2. Correct. What are the odds of a Tory majority north of 80, | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
which was the original hope of calling the election? The line is | :45:57. | :46:03. | |
set at Bet365. Our stats at the moment suggest Theresa May will get | :46:04. | :46:11. | |
a majority of 70. Those odds have come in right now. Our line at the | :46:12. | :46:19. | |
moment is Tory in their seat at 360. There will be people not too happy. | :46:20. | :46:22. | |
So that's the bookies' view, but what of the opinion polls? | :46:23. | :46:25. | |
Well, one firm, Survation, said on Monday it believed | :46:26. | :46:30. | |
the Conservative lead over Labour is down to just one point. | :46:31. | :46:33. | |
Other polling firms still think the Tories are as much | :46:34. | :46:35. | |
We're joined now by Damien Lyons-Lowe from Survation, | :46:36. | :46:38. | |
and Deborah Mattinson from Britain Thinks. | :46:39. | :46:42. | |
Welcome to you both. Your latest poll predict a 1-point lead for the | :46:43. | :46:53. | |
Conservatives. Some of us remember at the start of the campaign, some | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
polls were over 20 points. One point would mean a hung parliament, and | :46:58. | :47:02. | |
the Tories losing the majority, wouldn't it? It would mean using our | :47:03. | :47:07. | |
most recent Scotland figures from the Sunday Post, plugging those into | :47:08. | :47:14. | |
a Scotland predictor, and plugging, doing a simple national swing and a | :47:15. | :47:18. | |
future weeks, nothing too special. There would be a no overall majority | :47:19. | :47:27. | |
situation. So the answer is, yes. That's a yes. I was giving you my | :47:28. | :47:34. | |
working, so yes, hung parliament. We got there in the end. I was | :47:35. | :47:42. | |
beginning to lose the will to live. I'm a massive outlier here, I will | :47:43. | :47:43. | |
be the most wrong or the most right. Translations will follow. Yes. | :47:44. | :48:01. | |
Debra, to you, do you agree with this Survation poll, is it an | :48:02. | :48:07. | |
outlier or mainstream? It is an outlier. In a word, no. I don't | :48:08. | :48:16. | |
think so. Because? I think that what Survation has done is interesting. | :48:17. | :48:21. | |
Damien shows his working on his website, but I think there is a big | :48:22. | :48:27. | |
presumption about turnout, about young people, there is a danger that | :48:28. | :48:34. | |
his sample includes too many workers too highly engaged in politics. Also | :48:35. | :48:38. | |
the fieldwork, am I right, it was before Saturday night? Friday and | :48:39. | :48:44. | |
Saturday. You have got another one coming up? We do. When is that | :48:45. | :48:50. | |
coming up? What day is it today? Have I got to tell you which day it | :48:51. | :48:57. | |
is? It is a really reliable poll. It is complicated and it is Wednesday. | :48:58. | :49:02. | |
It is coming out at 11pm tonight. Good, I am glad we got there, too. | :49:03. | :49:09. | |
On the 1%, what turned out among younger people are you assuming? In | :49:10. | :49:18. | |
the post on Survation .com, you can give a 2015 assumption of turnout, | :49:19. | :49:23. | |
and the results don't change. You can use a 2015 assumption turnout, | :49:24. | :49:30. | |
it makes two points difference. By Micro age category, you can use, if | :49:31. | :49:34. | |
you like, and EU referendum turnout by it. Turnout went up by a lot. It | :49:35. | :49:44. | |
did. In 2015, the turnout was 46% among 18-24s. What are you assuming | :49:45. | :49:52. | |
it will be this time? I read the article and let people do whatever | :49:53. | :49:55. | |
they want to do. What it doesn't change our figures. | :49:56. | :50:01. | |
OK, I can talk about this the days, we all have the same numbers. All | :50:02. | :50:13. | |
the pollsters have the same numbers, except their turnout weights are | :50:14. | :50:22. | |
jamming up... OK. I am not sure I entirely followed it. But I do think | :50:23. | :50:29. | |
that is an issue. The voting age when thing is an issue with the | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
sample as well. It is a random sample, there is no issue with | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
engagement. We start with a random sample. You have 1.2% saying they | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
did not vote in last year's referendum, and a further 10.6 | :50:44. | :50:48. | |
saying they can't remember. Only 12.5% saying they did not vote in | :50:49. | :50:59. | |
2015. That's... In your sample, suggesting to me... Let me ask you | :51:00. | :51:04. | |
this before we get lost in these statistics, let me ask you this, why | :51:05. | :51:12. | |
is there such a disconnect between what party activists on the left and | :51:13. | :51:17. | |
right are reporting from the Midlands and the north, and the | :51:18. | :51:22. | |
opinion polls? Including labour, they are more gloomy about Labour | :51:23. | :51:25. | |
than the polls, which are rather good for them. Two things, one is | :51:26. | :51:32. | |
small data, rather than big data. I would say this, wouldn't I, but I | :51:33. | :51:36. | |
think small data gives you a nuance that you don't get out the big data. | :51:37. | :51:40. | |
It is also how votes are distributed. Even if young people | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
vote, they vote in places that aren't helpful to Labour. Because | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
they are already going to win? Exactly. We are running out of time. | :51:50. | :51:56. | |
We want to have you both about when we know the result, but what you | :51:57. | :52:00. | |
think the result will be? A comfortable win for the | :52:01. | :52:06. | |
Conservatives. We will update the Poulton, but no overall majority. | :52:07. | :52:11. | |
Got you. Only one of you can be right. We will see. | :52:12. | :52:15. | |
It might have felt at times during this election that two-party | :52:16. | :52:18. | |
politics was making a comeback, but there are of course | :52:19. | :52:20. | |
plenty of other parties out their still vying for your vote, | :52:21. | :52:23. | |
and they could yet make an impact on the result. | :52:24. | :52:26. | |
Here's how they've fared during the campaign. | :52:27. | :52:40. | |
I voted Leave, and I'm proud to have voted Leave. | :52:41. | :52:45. | |
You're a very aggressive man as well. | :52:46. | :52:53. | |
Sometimes in politics, the tide comes in, the tide goes out. | :52:54. | :52:59. | |
Do you need more workers from outside Wales? | :53:00. | :53:06. | |
We're quite happy with the ones we've got. | :53:07. | :53:10. | |
The Prime Minister is not here tonight. | :53:11. | :53:12. | |
She can't be bothered, so why should you? | :53:13. | :53:14. | |
In fact, Bake Off is on BBC Two, next. | :53:15. | :53:21. | |
In terms of what we do to President Trump, | :53:22. | :53:23. | |
I'm trying to think of a polite answer. | :53:24. | :53:25. | |
Amber, for example, her party have said in three manifesto is now that | :53:26. | :53:28. | |
they're going to get immigration down to the tens of thousands. | :53:29. | :53:31. | |
This PM is not so much the iron Lady than she is the Queen of the U-turn. | :53:32. | :53:46. | |
People don't want political party leaders telling them what is and | :53:47. | :53:50. | |
isn't sin. The most embarrassing thing you've | :53:51. | :53:53. | |
done when you were drunk? This isn't terribly embarrassing, | :53:54. | :53:55. | |
I'm sorry, but I'm very bad at recognising people, | :53:56. | :53:58. | |
and that probably gets worse. I've tried to get you to | :53:59. | :53:59. | |
answer the question... That's exactly | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
what I'm doing, Andrew. A flavour of the campaign for some | :54:04. | :54:13. | |
of the smaller parties. We have seen a tweet from Diane Abbott touched by | :54:14. | :54:17. | |
the messages of support, still standing. Will rejoin the fray soon. | :54:18. | :54:22. | |
Vote Labour. Of course, other parties are available. | :54:23. | :54:25. | |
At the Daily Politics we're greeting it with a mix of | :54:26. | :54:29. | |
child-like excitement and world-weary exhaustion. | :54:30. | :54:31. | |
Well someone who never tires of the political | :54:32. | :54:34. | |
treadmill is our Ellie, here's her guide to how | :54:35. | :54:36. | |
By 9:55, you need to be ready to go depending on how you spend election. | :54:37. | :54:49. | |
That is when the BBC programmes stop. When the polls close at ten, | :54:50. | :54:55. | |
we get the exit poll. The first result, usually Sunderland, will | :54:56. | :55:00. | |
race in by 10:45, but it will be quiet until 1am, when we should have | :55:01. | :55:05. | |
around a dozen results. They should give us a good idea if the exit poll | :55:06. | :55:11. | |
is right or not. It's also when some of the results | :55:12. | :55:15. | |
will come in for the Labour held marginals. If the Conservatives win | :55:16. | :55:19. | |
these, it could be an indication that Theresa May is on course to | :55:20. | :55:25. | |
pull in a substantial majority. From 2am onwards, results from Scotland | :55:26. | :55:30. | |
come in. At any party staged a comeback against the assembly? We | :55:31. | :55:34. | |
will also start to see the first Conservative held marginals around | :55:35. | :55:37. | |
then, too. If the Conservatives can't hold onto these, kid it could | :55:38. | :55:42. | |
be a sign they are losing their majority. | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
Around 3am, we should be in full swing, results coming in at quite a | :55:48. | :55:57. | |
pace. By 5am, we should find out whether Paul Nuttall has been | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
successful in his bid to become a Ukip MP. And by 6am, whether the | :56:02. | :56:09. | |
Greens's Caroline Lucas has held the seat. It could be a long night. | :56:10. | :56:15. | |
Now of course, there's only one place to watch | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
election night unfold, and that's on BBC One | :56:21. | :56:22. | |
from the moment the polls close at 10 o'clock. | :56:23. | :56:24. | |
Emily Maitlis is at the BBC's Election Centre. | :56:25. | :56:33. | |
Another big build up to the exit poll tomorrow night. Absolutely | :56:34. | :56:40. | |
right. I will give you a guided tour of the studio to start. Down below, | :56:41. | :56:48. | |
David Dimbleby will be at the main table, and you can see some of our | :56:49. | :56:57. | |
commentators, let's call them, that's the big screen where you will | :56:58. | :57:00. | |
see the exit poll come up bang on 10pm. We have been playing around | :57:01. | :57:06. | |
with predictions and scenarios in the rehearsals. This is my touch | :57:07. | :57:09. | |
screen. That is the place to be on the night. I will bring you every | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
was old, trying to work out from the exit poll the kind of forecasts and | :57:14. | :57:18. | |
seats that might be changing hands. Down here, I don't know if you can | :57:19. | :57:24. | |
get down here, but it is a plain green area that magically becomes | :57:25. | :57:27. | |
Downing Street, the House of Commons, the walk to power and all | :57:28. | :57:31. | |
the other things that Jeremy Vine does with his virtual reality set. | :57:32. | :57:37. | |
At the moment, it is a gentle buzz of activity. It will be absolutely | :57:38. | :57:43. | |
alive and kicking come 6pm tomorrow evening when all the desks you can | :57:44. | :57:47. | |
see will be full. This is our bank of psephology 's calculating and | :57:48. | :57:53. | |
recalibrating the exit poll, updating the results we get in as we | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
get them. It looks very exciting. You look like you are on the bridge | :57:58. | :58:01. | |
of the starship enterprise. On the fridge? On the bridge. We have | :58:02. | :58:10. | |
locked that for the next 12 hours. Thanks very much. Good luck on the | :58:11. | :58:17. | |
night. Thanks, Andrew. You will be in your constituency, TV | :58:18. | :58:24. | |
appearances? I will do TV and rush back to my constituency. And you are | :58:25. | :58:26. | |
in Oxfordshire? Yeah. Thanks to all our guests, especially | :58:27. | :58:31. | |
Ed Vaizey and David Lammy. There is no Daily Politics tomorrow | :58:32. | :58:35. | |
as it's polling day. Broadcasters do nothing on election | :58:36. | :58:43. | |
day, it is convention and the rules as well. Polling day tomorrow. | :58:44. | :58:45. | |
But remember you'll be able to watch all the election results come | :58:46. | :58:48. | |
in from 10pm on BBC One and I'll be back on Friday on BBC One | :58:49. | :58:51. | |
from 7am and through the day, getting all the reaction | :58:52. | :58:54. | |
here in Westminster, so do join me then. Bye bye. | :58:55. | :59:07. | |
I've had enough... ..alternative facts. | :59:08. | :59:11. |