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Morning, folks.

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Welcome to the Daily Politics.

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How much wiggle room

does the Chancellor have

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for his Budget next month?

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Latest figures show the economy

picked up a little bit of speed

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in the third quarter of this year.

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Could that mean a small rise

in interest rates next week?

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Labour MP Jared O'Mara should be

suspended according to two

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MPs from his own party.

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He denies abusing a young woman

in an incident in March.

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We'll have the latest.

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When will Parliament vote on a

Brexit deal? David Davis said it

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could happen after March 20 19.

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And we'll full coverage of today's

big parliamentary clash -

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Prime Minister's Questions will be

live and uninterrupted from midday.

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All that in the next 90 minutes.

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With me for the duration

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the Business Minister Margot James

and the Shadow Treasury

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Minister Anneliese Dodds.

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Welcome to you both.

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Jared O'Mara is the Labour MP who

defeated Nick Clegg in the Sheffield

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Hallam seat in the election and has

been in trouble since the website

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Guido Fawkes published details of

comments he made many years ago and

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then more today from 2009, and an

allegation we will show you more

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recently. As we came on air, the

Labour Party announced Jared O'Mara

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had been suspended. The Labour whip

has been withdrawn from him pending

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an investigation into what he is

alleged to have said. That will now

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go one. He will not be covered by

the Labour whip until the

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investigation is finished.

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Sophie Evans told this programme

yesterday that O'Mara verbally

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abused her while out

in with friends - a claim

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more recent that he strongly denies.

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JoCo asked Sophie what

exactly he said to her.

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Some of the things

are not broadcastable.

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But there were some

transphobic slurs in there.

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He called me an ugly

BLEEP.

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I just thought, wow,

he's not a very nice man,

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and kind of just forgot about it.

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I knew that he was

kind of involved in

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politics, but I had no idea

at the time that he was running

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for MP for Sheffield Hallam,

which is my constituency.

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The news this morning Jared O'Mara

the Labour MP, the whip has been

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suspended, taken away while the

investigation goes on.

Labour should

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have done this from the start? To be

fair, the allegations and

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information about what he said has

only come out the last couple of

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days and Labour acted quickly,

saying they need to be an

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investigation. The suspension has

been agreed as of now and it is

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important we have a proper

investigation and find out what has

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happened. Jared O'Mara came to the

PLP meeting on Monday night and

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apologised, but an apology is not

enough we need an investigation. It

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shows it is being taken seriously.

It is Labour Party process that if

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someone is investigated, you suspend

them during the investigation and

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that did not happen.

I am not sure

that is always the case.

I quote one

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saying they have rules in the Labour

Party, we suspend and investigate

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and make a decision, fellow Labour

MP.

About that specific person,

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perhaps but generally the Labour

Party will deal with issues within

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the rules, which I do not think say

you have to suspend an individual

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but clearly the party came to the

decision in this case it was right

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to suspend him while the

investigation goes on and it should

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happen because what he said was not

acceptable and we need to find out

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if the latest allegations are true.

Jared O'Mara was essentially chosen

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to stand against Nick Clegg by the

NEC. He was essentially forced onto

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the constituency. Did not one in the

NEC vet him?

As you know all

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candidates certainly for the Labour

Party and most other parties are

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chosen through an accelerated

process, normally they would be

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chosen by a vote through members...

Does the NEC not to vet candidates

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they are essentially forcing onto

the constituency?

There was a panel

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and in my case there was a panel

formed from the NEC that would go

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through the different candidates and

party at the investigation will be

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finding out exactly how that process

went.

He had been a Labour candidate

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before, so this was the second time,

so he was known to the party, it was

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not the constituency decision, it

was an NEC decision he stand against

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Nick Clegg. Did not one in Labour

headquarters vet him?

You are also

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required, as a candidate, to say if

there is anything in your history

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that could cause embarrassment to

the party and it is important to

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people take that seriously.

He

must've said no. I do not know. If

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you said yes, surely you would not

let him run? There has to be a

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balance. If you knew he had said

things that cannot be repeated on

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daytime television, if he had said

these things, the homophobic, the

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sexist comments, racist comments

about Spaniards and Danes, are you

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telling me, if you knew that, he

would have been allowed to stand as

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a candidate?

It would not have been

my decision and I do not think as an

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elected politician it would be right

for me to choose.

Would your party

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have allowed him to stand?

I would

say around this, on Monday evening,

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he said that he was very embarrassed

and ashamed about what he said back

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then and accepted it was wrong and

said he had changed as a person. We

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have had more recent allegations

since but the issue is, if you have

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people, who in the past held views

that are horrible, but they now

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renounce the views and say they are

ashamed of them and they are a

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different person and want to work to

help the people they were being

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horrible about before, should we say

in every case we turn our backs?

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Only when a Tory says it, that is

the Labour attitude. When it is

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Tories, they should be hung, drawn,

quartered. When it is a fellow

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Labour MP you say he is on a

journey.

He is being investigated. I

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am not saying it is the case with

him. I have never been like that, to

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be fair. In the past, if they were

announced it and said they regretted

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it and want to right wrongs, that is

the right thing to do.

The most

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recent remarks involving Angelina

Jolie, I think. In some ways more

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horrendous than the previous ones,

they were in 2009 and he had already

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been a Labour candidate.

I have not

seen the most recent remarks but

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there is an investigation within the

Labour Party that will decide about

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his future within the party which is

the right thing to do. It is

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appropriate we look at evidence and

decide the way forward.

Mr Omar Rowe

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denies the allegations made on the

Daily Politics yesterday. -- Jared

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O'Mara denies those allegations from

yesterday on the programme. The

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original ones are from 15 years ago

and he has apologised. He was very

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young 15 years ago. Should he be

allowed to apologise and get on with

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it?

If it just pertains to remarks

made as a young man and he said he

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was going through a troublesome

patch, I do not feel, these days, we

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can necessarily condemn people out

of hand, never shall they represent

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people in Parliament, for remarks

made at a young age. I am

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sympathetic to the decision by the

Labour Party not to suspend him

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straightaway. The more recent

allegations are more serious and

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need to be investigated. Sophie who

was on a few minutes ago seemed a

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credible witness and serious

allegations to be answered.

We will

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see how the investigation goes.

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Brexit Secretary David Davis says

Parliament may not get a chance to

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vote on any deal with the EU before

we leave. He has been speaking in

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the Commons to the Brexit Select

Committee.

Let's listen. You have

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made two observations, the first is

your answer when you said it is

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possible Parliament might not vote

on the deal until after the end of

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March 20 19. I am summarising

correctly what you said?

In the

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event we do not do the deal until

then.

That was Hilary Benn, the

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chairman of the Brexit Select

Committee. We used him to clarify

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what had been said.

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Will Parliament get a vote on the

deal?

Parliament has agreed, the

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government agreed for a vote on the

deal by Parliament and that was

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agreed in March.

So there will be a

vote. Whatever, assuming a deal is

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done, what ever is agreed with

Michel Barnier and David Davis, the

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deal is there, Parliament will get a

vote for and against?

That is what

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Parliament agreed in March. When

will that vote the? You heard what

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David Davis said. I think the

government is confident of getting a

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deal before the actual deadline of

March 19. In any case, we are

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pressing for an implementation

period of approximately two years

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after that date.

That will be part

of the deal?

We would hope to get

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that agreed sooner than the final

deal because we need that certainty.

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The implementation period will be

part of the deal? The implementation

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period I imagine would be part of

the deal that we have to remember

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nothing is agreed until everything

is agreed and I would not want to be

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too pronounced on that but the

objective the Prime Minister set

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out, which is a two-year roughly

implementation period will be

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agreed, hopefully by the end of this

year, early next.

You say it is

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clear, but it is not clear, some of

the finest minds in the building

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spent the morning trying to work out

what David Davis was saying. Let me

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continue with basic questions. What

would be the point of a vote in

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parliament after March 2019? When in

effect we would have left?

You only

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played a short clip from the hearing

and my impression from what David

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Davis was saying was that, in

theory, if the negotiations went up

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to midnight on D-Day, Parliament

might have a vote immediately

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afterwards. What with the? I think

his tone was such that would be

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unlikely.

He he raised it. The

committee raised it. He answered it

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saying yes. If there were a vote

after 2019 on a deal, the deal has

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been done, it went to the wire,

which has happened in Europe, but

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the vote cannot happen until after

the end. Surely the Parliament's

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choices Hobson's Choice, to vote for

the deal or to vote to leave without

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a deal.

That is the choice? I think

we are getting ahead of ourselves.

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We want to negotiate the

implementation period and we have

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had a good response from Europe in

that they also want that and that

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should be in place.

If it goes to

the wire, there will not be a vote

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until after the Article 50 process

is done and dusted?

If the

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implementation period is agreed as

part of the overall length of time,

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there will not be any change.

Either

we get out with the deal, or get out

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without one. Parliament having a

vote is no real choice on that.

I

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think if there is a serious threat

of Britain leaving without a deal we

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will know before March 20 19.

That

is not what David Davis said this

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morning so it is not that clear.

What do you make of it? I think we

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are in a worrying situation. The

Prime Minister sowed more seeds of

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confusion because she said, and does

not seem to have gone against this,

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that we could not sort out the

transition deal until we sort of the

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trade deal which is part of the

final deal. The government seems all

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over the place and it is worrying

because it has an impact on

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businesses already and on individual

citizens, particularly EU citizens,

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so I implore the government to get

more of a grip on this.

Will the

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trade deal, the future relationship

with the EU, be part of the deal, or

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will it be decided in the

transition?

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I would hope that would be part of

the deal. Article 50 actually states

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when we leave the European Union we

leave with our future arrangements

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agreed, at least in principle. So I

expect

You don't know?

I think what

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you have to remember, Andrew, there

are two parties to this negotiation.

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But I am remembering - I am not

asking about the EU's position. I am

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trying to get the Government's

position and you are not able to

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tell me.

The Government's position

is that we will leave the European

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Union in March 2019 with an

proximate length of two years for an

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implementation period for business

to get used to...

I asked if there

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would be a trade teal or not.

I

would hope...

You would hope.

Of

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course.

We will see if things get

clarified as the day goes on. It was

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a confusing session in place that

MrDavis had with the Commons Select

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Committee:

Committee.

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The latest figures show that

economic growth has picked up

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month, and has prompted fresh

speculation that a rise in interest

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rates could be in the offing

when the Bank of England

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meets next week.

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So how is the economy doing?

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Elizabeth Glinka is

here with the details.

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That's right, Andrew.

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The economy is estimated to have

grown by 0.4% in the third

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quarter of this year.

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That's a slightly higher growth rate

than we saw in the previous quarter.

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Earlier this month, the Office

for Budget Responsibility

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said that productivity,

that's the amount generated

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by each worker per hour,

has grown by just 0.2% per year

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on average over the last five years.

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However, the monthly deficit,

that's the amount the Government

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borrows every month,

fell to £5.9 billion in September.

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That's the lowest

Government borrowing in any

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September since 2007.

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But inflation remains high,

it's currently at 3%,

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according to the latest figures,

and that will squeeze people's

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incomes and spending power.

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The unemployment rate

is still at an historic low,

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it's currently at 4.3%

which is the joint lowest

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it's been since 1975.

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And next week the Bank

of England will have to decide

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whether to raise the interest rate.

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Last month, the bank

hinted that the rate,

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which is currently a quarter

of a percent, may rise

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in the near future.

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That would be bad news for people

with mortgages and other debts.

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And Philip Hammond will, of course,

have to make all these figures add

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up in his Budget which is exactly

four weeks away on

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Wednesday 22nd November.

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Let's speak now to our economics

editor Kamal Ahmed, who's

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at the Francis Crick Institute

in central London where

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the Chancellor has been

visiting this morning.

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In the glorious sunshine as well in

this late autumn. So growth a wee

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bit better than the case in the

first and second quarters, but --

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rises the chance of interest rates

too, what's your take on it?

I

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think, as you say, it's sunnier here

today, and I have just been with the

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Chancellor at the Francis Crick

Institute where he has announced

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more money for science research, £17

million. They won't be hanging the

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bunting out at the Treasury, but he

felt in a slightly better mood about

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the economic news. It's not

euphoria, but it's resilience as he

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would describe it, the economy at

the moment. That's around services,

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we are still buying stuff. The

consumer is still feeling confident,

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despite that income squeeze that you

have been talking about. Also

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manufacturing, of course, sterling

has declined in value, meant that

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exports, for example, abroad are

more competitive. That seems to be

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reflected in the manufacturing

figures. Still big problems over

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productivity. I have spoken to the

Chancellor, he is under pressure

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from some Cabinet ministers, on

housing, for example, saying we

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should borrow more. Cool note on

that to me from the Chancellor. I

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think he still is trying to reveal

he is a true fiscal Conservative as

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he would describe himself, he wants

to get that budget into balance by

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the middle of the next decade.

Didn't seem to signal he wanted to

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open the taps to me, despite the

claims from education, from health,

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from housing, that more money needs

to be spent. So he says he still

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wants to go steady as we go. He said

Brexit uncertainty was still there.

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Certainly today a sense of slightly

better news on the British economy

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and, frankly, that notion of

resilience, there is still momentum

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in the way we are performing.

Thank

you.

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So, growth is rising again. The

fiscal deficit is down. Unemployment

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is as low, has never been lower

since Harald Wilson was in Downing

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Street. It's not quite what

Remainers like you told us would

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happen to the British economy.

It's

important nobody talks down the

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British economy, I am proud of it.

There are two areas that weren't

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covered in the otherwise very good

reports there. First of all, around

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living standards. We have had the

longest squeeze on wages in Britain

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since Napoleonic times. When people

are spending a lot is driven by debt

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which is concerning, we are seeing

record levels of consumer debt.

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Secondly, we need to put Britain

into the context of other comparable

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countries. We are 31st out of 34OECD

countries at the moment for our GDP

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growth. That's not a record we

should be proud of. We are behind

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the eurozone countries when it comes

to growth. Yes, a little bit more

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growth, that's positive. But put us

into international comparison...

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Your side of the Brexit argument

didn't tell us growth was going to

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continue. Didn't tell us the deficit

would continue continue to come

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down. Rather than unemployment

continue to fall, you told us it

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would soar. So you were wrong?

I

never made claims saying that birds

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were going to fall out of the sky

the day after...

I didn't mention

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birds, just talked about jobs and

growth.

I have a lot of concerns

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about the problems with the British

economy and you can see that in

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international comparison. Yes, we

may have a little tick up in GDP

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growth, but as I said, into

comparison with other developed

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countries, we are really doing very,

very poorly.

Actually that's not

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quite true. You are taking it

short-term. Since the great crash,

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all right, you tell me, compare the

growth rates of the eurozone since

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the great crash with Britain, what

answer do you get?

Actually, since

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the great crash we have had the

slowest growing three quarters

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recently in Britain.

That's been

this year. This economy is now about

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8% bigger than it was before the

crash. How big is the eurozone

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economy?

In overall terms, some of

those countries fell faster than we

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did. Greece, etc had enormous

problems. Currently...

No, how big

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is it?

I can't tell you off the top

of my head.

It's still smaller, I

0:22:120:22:18

will tell you. Britain and America

have. You don't know your figures.

0:22:180:22:23

The eurozone, is that actually,

people's as growth is kicked in,

0:22:230:22:27

people's incomes have been going up.

That has not happened in Britain. We

0:22:270:22:32

are unique pretty much...

We are not

going up in 2011, 12, 13. Let me

0:22:320:22:43

come to Margaret James. You told us

growth would collapse, the deficit

0:22:430:22:48

would rise, joblessness would soar

in the short-term. You were wrong,

0:22:480:22:52

as well.

Well, certainly the

Treasury forecasts were wrong, yes.

0:22:520:22:56

I certainly didn't use any of those

Treasury forecasts in anything that

0:22:560:23:02

I campaigned on or wrote about.

It

was just George Osborne was it?

It I

0:23:020:23:08

appreciate it sounds like I am

trying to disown it. I would never

0:23:080:23:13

have gone with those rather extreme

projections.

Did you say that to

0:23:130:23:18

George Osborne at the time, you

didn't believe the projections?

I

0:23:180:23:20

said it to everybody involved in the

campaign that I knew at the time,

0:23:200:23:23

yes.

You didn't cast doubt on them

in public?

I never used them.

0:23:230:23:28

Because I thought they weren't the

real problem. The real worries for

0:23:280:23:35

me were much longer term. It was

really around foreign and direct

0:23:350:23:39

investment, which accounts for

approximately 50% of our economy,

0:23:390:23:44

inspired by foreign direct

investment in the British economy.

0:23:440:23:48

The FDI doesn't account for 50% of

GDP.

In terms of the number of

0:23:480:23:53

companies foreign investors invest

in and drive, it is a huge

0:23:530:23:57

proportion. I think it is almost

50%.

Have you seen signs of that

0:23:570:24:01

falling?

I think there are concerns.

I think that we need to be alive to

0:24:010:24:04

those concerns.

Is FDI falling?

It's

not falling yet.

You are the

0:24:040:24:11

business Minister.

There are threats

on the horizon. We have managed, I

0:24:110:24:15

think, if I could just finish, we

have managed to allay a lot of the

0:24:150:24:21

concerns in the short-term about

foreign direct investment in

0:24:210:24:25

industries like the auto industry.

The key word is yet, in area answer.

0:24:250:24:29

Exactly.

So you still fear it could

fall?

We have to be alive to this.

0:24:290:24:34

This is why it's so important that

we secure a good deal on our exit

0:24:340:24:40

from the European Union. And we give

investors, both British investors

0:24:400:24:44

and foreign investors confidence

that we can continue to trade

0:24:440:24:46

effectively and easily with the

single market.

The British economy

0:24:460:24:51

has slowed this year. Even with the

latest figures for quarter three

0:24:510:24:55

which show a bit of a rise again. Do

you put that down to Brexit?

Well,

0:24:550:24:59

the British economy is, the last

quarter is slightly better than

0:24:590:25:02

people forecast.

Overall, it's

slowed.

I think...

Probably less.

0:25:020:25:11

That was the figure I was given this

morning. It's a respectable level of

0:25:110:25:15

growth, considering the adjustment

we are making and obviously the

0:25:150:25:20

uncertainty that Brexit has aroused,

we have to take that on board and

0:25:200:25:24

despite the economy is growing. And

the other things that were outlined

0:25:240:25:28

in the film.

Of the major economies,

who is growing more slowly than us

0:25:280:25:33

this year?

Of the G7 we will have to

wait...

Not just that, make it the

0:25:330:25:38

G20.

There is no doubt our growth

has slowed relative to our

0:25:380:25:42

neighbours. But don't forget that it

was fast above our neighbours prior

0:25:420:25:46

to the beginning of this year.

Who

is growing more slowly now?

Within

0:25:460:25:52

the G7 I think that, we will have to

wait until the year end, we will be

0:25:520:25:56

one of the slower growing economies.

Among the OECD countries, only

0:25:560:26:02

Portugal and Turkey are growing more

slowly.

You always have the answer

0:26:020:26:06

to questions you pose, Andrew. Let's

wait until the year end.

Very well.

0:26:060:26:10

Not long to go, actually!

How many shopping days to Christmas!

0:26:100:26:17

Let's not go there.

0:26:170:26:20

The big news today isn't Brexit,

it isn't the GDP figures,

0:26:200:26:23

it isn't even Donald Trump.

0:26:230:26:24

It is, of course, the news that

Jeremy Corbyn has agreed to appear

0:26:240:26:27

on the hit Channel 4 show Gogglebox.

0:26:270:26:29

As you would expect,

there's been a lot of speculation

0:26:290:26:31

about what Mr Corbyn's favourite

show will be.

0:26:310:26:33

Could it be that BBC

documentary on manhole covers?

0:26:330:26:35

Perhaps it's a Gardeners World

special on allotments.

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It's coming up to midday here.

0:29:190:29:24

Big Ben is there. Dark clouds

behind. It's sunny here, though,

0:29:240:29:28

despite the best efforts of the

scaffolders to hide that beautiful

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face. Prime Minister's questions

will be with us in a few minutes.

0:29:310:29:37

What do you think is going to

happen, what areas do we believe

0:29:370:29:40

will be covered by the front bench

exchanges?

We will see. You would

0:29:400:29:44

imagine the Prime Minister might be

invited to take up where David Davis

0:29:440:29:48

left off, although Jeremy Corbyn as

herself seen in the past is a little

0:29:480:29:53

bit allergic to the subject of

Brexit, something to do one imagines

0:29:530:29:56

with divisions on the Labour

benches. We will see. It may be very

0:29:560:30:00

tempting. Why do I say that? David

Davis, the Secretary of State has

0:30:000:30:05

been giving evidence to MPs on a

Commons committee this morning. We

0:30:050:30:11

know David Davis, amiable chap

though he is is not the sort of guy

0:30:110:30:15

to duck a fight. Watching that

committee, I am sure you were

0:30:150:30:17

watching too, it looked at times

like the political equivalent of a

0:30:170:30:21

special forces training video.

He is

ex-special forces.

Might or might

0:30:210:30:28

not come in handy. We saw the

Secretary of State effectively

0:30:280:30:31

telling the House of Commons,

including some on his own side who

0:30:310:30:33

will not I think be happy with this,

telling them we could get to the

0:30:330:30:37

point at the Brexit negotiations

right to the midnight hour, the last

0:30:370:30:41

minute, and then the deal is done.

Problem with that is these MPs want

0:30:410:30:45

a vote for parliament on the deal

which would mean effectively

0:30:450:30:49

presenting parliament with a fait Au

Complete. There are scenarios if we

0:30:490:30:54

get to that. They all add up to one

or other constitutional crisis. Also

0:30:540:30:59

in the course of this interesting

interview session he spoke of the

0:30:590:31:02

negotiations to come and made it

clear in his view he was sticking

0:31:020:31:06

absolutely to the idea of concluding

all negotiations until the moment at

0:31:060:31:11

the moment of exit in March of 2019,

if not before, including trade.

So

0:31:110:31:17

his aim is to get a trade deal as

part of the overall deal.

The whole

0:31:170:31:22

thing done by that deadline. Even

though Michel Barnier has spoken

0:31:220:31:27

about three years to get that trade

deal done. Others in the field who

0:31:270:31:30

know something about it have spoken

about much longer periods. There was

0:31:300:31:35

David Davis ambition but the choice

on offer effectively was do the

0:31:350:31:37

whole deal by then, or we go away,

there is no deal, it's WTO. The

0:31:370:31:42

World Trade Organisation rules and

the threat in the background or

0:31:420:31:45

inducement was you don't want that

any more than we do. We will see.

0:31:450:31:49

You mentioned the midnight hour,

what a great programme that was.

0:31:490:31:51

Let's go over to the House of

Commons.

0:31:510:31:53

Mr Speaker... Mr Speaker. I'm sure

all members across the house will

0:32:020:32:09

wish to join me in wishing all of

the home nations teams the best of

0:32:090:32:13

luck in the rugby league World Cup

starting this week. This morning I

0:32:130:32:19

had meetings with ministerial

colleagues and others and in

0:32:190:32:21

addition to my duties in this House

I will further meetings today.

0:32:210:32:28

Social care services in England are

in crisis. Since 2010 the local

0:32:280:32:33

council in Manchester had its annual

social care budget cut by 32

0:32:330:32:38

million. By March the government

will have taken 6.3 billion out of

0:32:380:32:43

social care. Why won't the Prime

Minister match Labour's commitment

0:32:430:32:46

to invest 8 billion in social care

in the budget?

As I have said in

0:32:460:32:53

this House we recognise the pressure

on social care as we see an ageing

0:32:530:32:58

population. There are short-term and

medium term and long-term answers

0:32:580:33:05

and in the short-term we have made

extra funding available to local

0:33:050:33:09

authorities and the announcement

made in the budget was for an extra

0:33:090:33:15

£2 billion for local authorities and

in the medium term we need to ensure

0:33:150:33:21

best practice is observed in local

authorities and NHS trusts and in

0:33:210:33:26

some cases delayed discharges are

higher than others and in the

0:33:260:33:29

long-term we need a sustainable

footing for social care which is why

0:33:290:33:33

we will be publishing an open

consultation on ideas and proposals

0:33:330:33:40

to ensure we can have that system in

future.

The Prime Minister will be

0:33:400:33:48

aware of the roles supported housing

plays with many vulnerable people in

0:33:480:33:52

Torbay. What reassurance can she

give about the ongoing support the

0:33:520:33:56

government is giving to those vital

services?

He raises an important

0:33:560:34:01

issue and something we have looked

at closely. Since my right

0:34:010:34:06

honourable friend the first

Secretary of State commissioned work

0:34:060:34:09

on this when he was Work and

Pensions Secretary. I confirmed we

0:34:090:34:14

will publish our response to that

consultation on Tuesday, 31st of

0:34:140:34:18

October and it will look at a range

of issues, and we need to ensure

0:34:180:34:23

funding is right so all providers

are able to access it effectively

0:34:230:34:28

and we need to look at issues such

as the increase in service charges,

0:34:280:34:35

making sure we are looking at cost

control in the sector. As part of

0:34:350:34:40

our response to the review we will

not apply if the cap to supported

0:34:400:34:46

housing and we will not implement it

in the wider social rented sectors.

0:34:460:34:53

The details will be made available

when we publish our response.

0:34:530:34:57

Jeremy Corbyn.

0:34:570:35:07

Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, I joined the

Prime Minister in wishing the rugby

0:35:130:35:16

league team the best in the

competition and I hope they win it.

0:35:160:35:22

Last week, the house voted by 299-0

to pause the roll-out of Universal

0:35:220:35:31

Credit. Will the Prime Minister

respect the will of the house?

As I

0:35:310:35:43

have said we acknowledge that there

are concerns people have raised and

0:35:430:35:48

as we have been rolling it out we

have listened to those changes have

0:35:480:35:52

been made. Perhaps I could update

the house on where we are on the

0:35:520:35:57

roll-out of Universal Credit.

Currently, people claiming benefits,

0:35:570:36:03

8% are on Universal Credit and by

January next year it will rise to

0:36:030:36:07

10%. The roll-out is conducted in

three phases and the intention is it

0:36:070:36:12

will complete by 2022. It is being

done in a measured way and I am

0:36:120:36:18

pleased to say four out of five

people are satisfied or very

0:36:180:36:25

satisfied with the service they are

receiving. Universal Credit helps

0:36:250:36:35

people into the workplace and make

sure work pays and that's what the

0:36:350:36:41

system should do.

I would have

thought that if only 8% of the

0:36:410:36:46

roll-out has taken place, and 20% of

the people in receipt are

0:36:460:36:53

dissatisfied, that is the cause for

thought, maybe a pause in the

0:36:530:36:57

process. Last week only one

Conservative MP had the courage of

0:36:570:37:03

their convictions to vote with us on

suspending Universal Credit

0:37:030:37:07

roll-out. For... Then, Mr Speaker, a

Conservative member of the Welsh

0:37:070:37:16

Assembly, Angela Burns said, and I

quote, for the life of me I cannot

0:37:160:37:22

understand why a six week or four

week gap is deemed acceptable. She

0:37:220:37:28

called Universal Credit Kallis at

best and downright cruel at worst

0:37:280:37:33

and concluded by saying she is

ashamed of her government. Can the

0:37:330:37:38

Prime Minister ease her colleague's

shame by pausing and fixing

0:37:380:37:41

Universal Credit?

We have been

making changes to the implementation

0:37:410:37:50

as it has gone through the roll-out.

Let's be clear about why we

0:37:500:37:57

introduced Universal Credit. It is a

system...

Members are getting

0:37:570:38:03

overexcited. The question has been

put and the answer will be heard.

We

0:38:030:38:11

introduced Universal Credit is a

more straightforward system that

0:38:110:38:16

ensures the work pays and helps

people into the workplace. Let's

0:38:160:38:21

look at what happened in the system

under Labour. Under Labour the low

0:38:210:38:26

paid page tax and had it paid back

to them in benefits. Under Labour,

0:38:260:38:32

people were trapped on a life of

benefits for years. Under Labour,

0:38:320:38:39

the number of workless households

doubled. Labour's benefits system

0:38:390:38:47

cost households extra £3000 a year.

What the Conservatives have done is

0:38:470:38:55

give the low paid a pay rise, given

the work as a tax cut and ensure we

0:38:550:39:00

have the benefit system that helps

people into work.

Under Labour, 1

0:39:000:39:09

million children were lifted out of

poverty. Under Labour we introduced

0:39:090:39:17

the principle of the national

minimum wage, opposed by all Tories

0:39:170:39:21

over there. If the Prime Minister is

not prepared to listen to Angela

0:39:210:39:27

Burns, perhaps she could listen to

the architect of Universal Credit,

0:39:270:39:33

The Right Honourable member for

Chingford, who said one of the

0:39:330:39:36

reasons I resigned from the

government was I did not actually

0:39:360:39:40

agree with the additional waiting

days. This is something the

0:39:400:39:43

government needs to look at. Does

the Prime Minister agree with him?

0:39:430:39:50

This is not just the answer I have

given three or four times in this

0:39:500:39:57

PMQs but in previous PMQs. As we

look at Universal Credit roll-out we

0:39:570:40:02

look at the way in which we

introduce it. He talks about what

0:40:020:40:06

happened under Labour and I am happy

to talk about what happened under

0:40:060:40:09

Labour.

Order! Too much noise and

finger-pointing on both sides of the

0:40:090:40:22

chamber. The responses from the

Prime Minister will be heard as more

0:40:220:40:29

questions from the opposition and

every other member, without fear or

0:40:290:40:32

favour.

Under the Labour Party, The

right honourable gentleman is

0:40:320:40:38

talking about rolling out of a new

benefit system. Let's think about

0:40:380:40:42

what happened when the Labour Party

rushed to introduce tax credits. I

0:40:420:40:47

was not the only member of

Parliament who had people in my

0:40:470:40:52

constituency surgery who had filled

in the force properly, given their

0:40:520:40:56

information to the authorities, and

years later, the government came

0:40:560:41:00

back and landed them with bills for

thousands of pounds. That is what

0:41:000:41:06

happens when you rush into a system

rather than introducing it properly,

0:41:060:41:09

as we are.

I thought we had passed

the threshold last week when the

0:41:090:41:16

Prime Minister was going to answer

questions but we have not achieved

0:41:160:41:19

that yet. Labour introduced working

tax credits to help people on low

0:41:190:41:27

pay out of poverty and it made a

very big difference. The sad truth

0:41:270:41:34

is that Universal Credit is in such

a mess that councils are forced to

0:41:340:41:40

pick up the Bill. An example,

Croydon Council, which piloted the

0:41:400:41:45

scheme, is now spending £3 million

of its own budget to prevent tenants

0:41:450:41:51

from being evicted due to rent

arrears caused by Universal Credit.

0:41:510:41:55

Does the Prime Minister think it is

right or fair that hard-pressed

0:41:550:42:01

local authorities, having their

budget cut by central government and

0:42:010:42:04

having to dip in what little they

have got left to prevent people

0:42:040:42:08

being evicted when they know it is

the responsibility of this

0:42:080:42:13

government and its Universal Credit

system that is causing the problem.

0:42:130:42:18

Labour introduced working tax

credits and then called back

0:42:180:42:21

thousands of pounds from people

working hard. He raises the issue of

0:42:210:42:25

rent arrears. Members have concerns

over people managing budgets to pay

0:42:250:42:30

their rent. The majority, for the

majority, it is not an issue,

0:42:300:42:39

managing their budget and after four

months, the number of people on

0:42:390:42:44

Universal Credit in arrears has

fallen by one third. We recognise

0:42:440:42:51

the issue so we're working with

landlords and have built flexibility

0:42:510:42:58

into the system so landlords can be

paid directly. Nobody can be legally

0:42:580:43:04

evicted from social housing due to

short-term rent arrears. I think

0:43:040:43:08

that is an important point to get

across to people. I come back to the

0:43:080:43:14

essential point about Universal

Credit. It is about a welfare system

0:43:140:43:18

that helps people into work and

makes work pay and does not trap

0:43:180:43:23

people in benefits for years.

I note

the Prime Minister could not say

0:43:230:43:29

anything about people being evicted

from the private rental sector

0:43:290:43:35

because of Universal Credit

problems. The costs are driven by

0:43:350:43:38

low pay and high rents. In 2015 the

then Chancellor promised £9 and our

0:43:380:43:46

living wage. In the March budget who

was sneaked out the minimum wage

0:43:460:43:52

would only reach £8 75. The welfare

state was not created to subsidise

0:43:520:43:59

low-paying employers and

overcharging landlords. Will the

0:43:590:44:08

budget in November put the onus

back...

Order! I expect better of

0:44:080:44:16

you. You were better behaved when

you were at Oxford University. What

0:44:160:44:24

has happened to you, man?

Calm

yourself. My question is this, will

0:44:240:44:31

the budget in November put the onus

back on to employers to pay a decent

0:44:310:44:37

wage so that workers can make ends

meet?

Of course we want to ensure

0:44:370:44:45

there are higher paid jobs, that is

why we are investing in the economy

0:44:450:44:50

and why we are investing in

infrastructure and in schools for

0:44:500:44:55

young people and why we are

introducing a modern industrial

0:44:550:44:58

strategy. He says that he did... The

welfare system was not created to

0:44:580:45:04

subsidise employers paying low

wages. That is what Labour's working

0:45:040:45:09

tax credit system did!

0:45:090:45:17

The Government's own social mobility

commission reported that low pay was

0:45:170:45:22

endemic in the United Kingdom, one

in four workers permanently stuck in

0:45:220:45:26

low paid jobs. That's why Labour

backs a real living wage of £10 per

0:45:260:45:33

hour to make work pay. This

Government doesn't really know

0:45:330:45:38

whether it's coming or going. They

say... Mr Speaker, the Conservative

0:45:380:45:49

Party and the Government says they

have full confidence in universal

0:45:490:45:52

credit. But won't vote for it. They

say they will end the NHS pay cap

0:45:520:46:02

but won't allocate any money to pay

for it. The communities Secretary

0:46:020:46:08

backs £50 billion of borrowing on

housing, but the Chancellor says

0:46:080:46:13

it's not policy. The Brexit

Secretary says they're planning for

0:46:130:46:17

a no deal Brexit. The Chancellor

says they're not. Isn't the case, Mr

0:46:170:46:26

Speaker, this Government is weak,

incompetent, divided and unable to

0:46:260:46:32

take a decision...

Order, order!

Order. I said that the responses

0:46:320:46:39

from the Prime Minister would be

heard. And the remarks of the right

0:46:390:46:45

honourable gentleman will be heard.

You can try to shout him down and

0:46:450:46:49

other members can try to shout the

Prime Minister down. It won't work.

0:46:490:46:54

End of. Jeremy Corbyn.

Isn't it the

case that this Government is weak,

0:46:540:47:01

incompetent and divided and unable

to take the essential decisions

0:47:010:47:05

necessary for the good of the people

of this country?

Now, I will tell

0:47:050:47:13

the right honourable gentleman, of

course we want to see people earning

0:47:130:47:16

higher wages. Of course we want, as

we are doing, to be able to ensure

0:47:160:47:20

we can invest in our public

services. But the way to do that,

0:47:200:47:23

the way to have a higher standard of

living, to have higher wages, to

0:47:230:47:26

invest in our public services, to

have a better future for people in

0:47:260:47:31

this country, is to build and

continue to build that stronger

0:47:310:47:35

economy and you don't build a

stronger economy by losing control

0:47:350:47:39

of public finances. You don't build

a stronger economy by uncontrolled

0:47:390:47:43

borrowing. You don't build a

stronger economy by hitting people

0:47:430:47:47

with the highest taxes in our

peacetime history. You don't build a

0:47:470:47:52

stronger economy by voting against

progress in our Brexit negotiations.

0:47:520:48:02

And you don't... You don't build a

stronger economy by planning for

0:48:020:48:06

capital flight and a run on the

pound. That's what Labour would do

0:48:060:48:12

and we will never let it happen.

Thank you, MrSpeaker. Some people in

0:48:120:48:21

Plymouth are campaigning by way of a

petition to say that lifeboats must

0:48:210:48:27

be launched immediately a fishing

vessel is overdue, I believe this is

0:48:270:48:33

irresponsible and puts our valiant

lifeboat crews in peril if they

0:48:330:48:36

don't know where they're going. We

know this in Cornwall. Would the

0:48:360:48:40

Prime Minister look at making safety

grants available so that all fishing

0:48:400:48:44

boats can have an AIS locater beacon

on board, this cost well under £4

0:48:440:48:50

million, even if every registered

fishing vessel under 15 metres got a

0:48:500:48:55

full grant for covering the whole

cost, my late husband had one of

0:48:550:49:00

these aboard his boat.

Can I thank

my honourable friend for raising

0:49:000:49:03

this issue and as she has just said

I know this is an area where she

0:49:030:49:08

tragically has personal experience

and I would like to commend her for

0:49:080:49:12

the work she has done in this

important area and for championing

0:49:120:49:15

these causes. I think she is right,

launching a lifeboat whenever a

0:49:150:49:18

fishing vessel is overdue may be the

wrong decision, it could as she says

0:49:180:49:21

be dangerous for the crew involved,

that's why the coastguard do take

0:49:210:49:27

time to gather valuable information

before deciding how best to respond.

0:49:270:49:30

On the issue she has raised, there

are a number of grants available

0:49:300:49:34

from various safety schemes and I

would encourage all those involved

0:49:340:49:36

in fishing to make the most of those

grants that are available.

Thank

0:49:360:49:44

you, MrSpeaker. Does the Prime

Minister agree with me that

0:49:440:49:50

migration is key to delivering

sustainable economic growth?

What I

0:49:500:49:53

think is absolutely key is to ensure

that we have controlled migration in

0:49:530:49:57

this country, that's what the people

of this country want and that's what

0:49:570:50:02

this Government is delivering.

An

American couple moved to Scotland

0:50:020:50:11

and invested £400,000 to run an

award-winning guesthouse in

0:50:110:50:15

Inverness. They contribute to their

community in the local economy. Yet,

0:50:150:50:22

they will be deported because of a

retro spective change by how was

0:50:220:50:28

rules. Will the Prime Minister meet

with me to discuss this case and the

0:50:280:50:35

systemic problems with UK migration?

My right honourable friend, the Home

0:50:350:50:41

Secretary, is happy to meet with the

honourable friend in order to

0:50:410:50:45

discuss this specific case he has

raised. It's absolutely right is

0:50:450:50:48

that the Home Office does work to

ensure that the immigration rules

0:50:480:50:51

are being properly applied and that

action is being taken according to

0:50:510:50:54

those rules.

Now it is time to hear

MrSimon Hoare.

Thank you, I have

0:50:540:51:09

composed myself. I was greatly

cheered last week as I am sure many

0:51:090:51:13

colleagues were, the German

Chancellor say that a final deal

0:51:130:51:15

with regards to protection is going

to happen. Does my right honourable

0:51:150:51:19

friend agree with my assessment that

we are going to get a good deal,

0:51:190:51:23

that works for our country, for the

European Union and possibly more

0:51:230:51:28

importantly, for my conconstitute

yepts of North Dorset.

I do agree

0:51:280:51:34

with my honourable friend, I believe

that we are - our job is to get the

0:51:340:51:40

bes Brexit deal for Britain. I we

can. I believe it's a deal that will

0:51:400:51:43

benefit the United Kingdom, that

will benefit the United Kingdom

0:51:430:51:45

across all parts of the UK,

including his constituency. That we

0:51:450:51:50

maximise the benefits from leaving

the EU, while ensuring we maintain

0:51:500:51:55

the greatest possible access to EU

markets. That's what we are

0:51:550:51:58

continuing to work on, that's what

vision I set out in my Florence

0:51:580:52:01

speech, and the European Union as we

know are now preparing their

0:52:010:52:06

response to that.

The Prime Minister

has previously stated her commitment

0:52:060:52:13

to apprenticeships. However, in my

constituency the apprenticeship levy

0:52:130:52:17

has not been helping those for whom

it was designed. What steps will she

0:52:170:52:23

take to ensure apprenticeships help

those from lower income backgrounds?

0:52:230:52:29

Well, apprenticeships are important.

We have already in the Government

0:52:290:52:33

from 2010 to 2015, we saw two

million more apprenticeships

0:52:330:52:36

created.

0:52:360:52:41

The important point about

apprenticeships is that this is an

0:52:420:52:45

opportunity for young people, not to

feel they just have to be -

0:52:450:52:51

encouraged to go down an academic

route when that doesn't work for

0:52:510:52:53

them. When I meet apprentices they

say, many of them this is the best

0:52:530:52:58

thing they've done and we want to

make sure it's available for all

0:52:580:53:04

those who will benefit from it.

Can

the Prime Minister assure me that

0:53:040:53:15

the right road, school places, post

boxes and of course especially

0:53:150:53:21

healthcare provision will be in

place to support both my new

0:53:210:53:24

constituents and the up withes I

have got at the moment.

Well, can I

0:53:240:53:30

first of all congratulate my

honourable friend and say that I am

0:53:300:53:34

pleased that the district is doing

what we recognise we need to do to

0:53:340:53:38

build, to tackle dysfunctional

housing marringet, which is to build

0:53:380:53:41

more homes. She is right,

infrastructure is also an important

0:53:410:53:43

part of that. That's why we have

committed to £15 billion for road

0:53:430:53:49

investment strategy, over half a

trillion will be spent on the NHS in

0:53:490:53:52

England during this parliament. A

record £41 billion will be spent on

0:53:520:53:56

core funding for schools this year.

That I am pleased to say is the

0:53:560:54:01

record of Conservatives in

Government.

In 24 hours the people

0:54:010:54:08

of Dundee will wave off the bid for

the 2023 European capital of

0:54:080:54:13

culture. A fantastic bid which will

generate some 1500 jobs and add 5%

0:54:130:54:19

to local GDP. Can I ask the Prime

Minister, notwithstanding her

0:54:190:54:25

current difficulties with Europe, to

back this bid, given it comes from

0:54:250:54:30

the most innovative and forward

looking city in the whole of the UK.

0:54:300:54:38

Well, can I say to the honourable

friend that of course we are always

0:54:380:54:43

willing to back bids from any city

in the United Kingdom to become the

0:54:430:54:49

European City of Culture. But I

welcome the fact that Dundee has put

0:54:490:54:53

a bid forward. And is part of this.

As I say, we want to support all

0:54:530:54:57

cities in the United Kingdom who are

doing it.

It is a criminal offence

0:54:570:55:04

for those like teachers in a

position of trust to have a sexual

0:55:040:55:10

relationship with those young people

under 18. But a constituent came to

0:55:100:55:14

me recently distressed about exactly

such a relationship between his

0:55:140:55:17

17-year-old daughter and a middle

aged driving instructor. Now while

0:55:170:55:22

if consensual it's not illegal, I am

concerned that there might be risks

0:55:220:55:27

to young drivers being groomed by a

predatory instructor. Does my right

0:55:270:55:31

honourable friend agree that driving

instructors are by the nature of

0:55:310:55:35

their work in a position of trust,

should be covered by the same rules

0:55:350:55:38

as teachers and if so would she ask

the relevant Minister to work with

0:55:380:55:44

me on this?

I am concerned to hear

the case of of his constituent

0:55:440:55:52

raised and I recognise the position

and the role that driving

0:55:520:55:55

instructors play. Can I say to my

honourable friend I think it's

0:55:550:55:58

something that I will ask the

appropriate department to look at

0:55:580:56:00

and to get in touch with him to get

further details of this case.

In

0:56:000:56:08

March 2019 the Prime Minister told

this house that parliament would be

0:56:080:56:11

given a meaningful vote on the tems

of the Article 50 withdrawal bill.

0:56:110:56:17

This morning, in the Brexit Select

Committee the Secretary of State

0:56:170:56:20

told us that vote may not take place

until after March 2019. Can the

0:56:200:56:25

Prime Minister please explain how

it's possible to have a meaningsful

0:56:250:56:29

vote on something that's already

taken place?

As the honourable

0:56:290:56:35

friend knows we are in negotiations

with the European Union but I am

0:56:350:56:38

confident that we will - the

timetable under the Lisbon Treaty

0:56:380:56:42

does give time until March 2019 for

negotiations to take place. But I am

0:56:420:56:46

confident, because it is in the

interests of both sides, it's not

0:56:460:56:48

just this parliament that wants to

have a vote on that deal, but

0:56:480:56:51

actually there will be ratification

by other parliaments that we will be

0:56:510:56:55

able to achieve that agreement and

that negotiation in time for this

0:56:550:56:59

parliament to have the vote that we

committed.

We enter a week of

0:56:590:57:07

commemorations around the centenary

of the balance Ford declaration.

0:57:070:57:11

Would the Prime Minister rededicate

us to the pursuit of peace and

0:57:110:57:15

justice for both the Israelis and

the Palestinians, but celebrate with

0:57:150:57:20

pride our small national

contribution to the creation of a

0:57:200:57:24

democracy in the Middle East, a

sanctuary for those who suffered

0:57:240:57:29

from anti-Semitism and fear its rise

again and in the state of Israel a

0:57:290:57:34

true friend of the United Kingdom.

Well, can I first of all say to my

0:57:340:57:39

honourable friend that we are proud

of the role that we played in the

0:57:390:57:42

creation of the state of Israel and

we will certainly mark the centenary

0:57:420:57:47

with pride. I am also pleased at the

good trade relations and other

0:57:470:57:51

relationships that we have with

Israel and that we have are building

0:57:510:57:55

on and enhancing. We also must be

conscious of the sensitivitying some

0:57:550:58:00

people do have about the declaration

and we recognise that there is more

0:58:000:58:03

work to be done. We remain committed

to the two-state solution in

0:58:030:58:09

relation to Israel and the

Palestinians. That is an important

0:58:090:58:13

aim. I think it's important that we

all recommit to ensuring that we can

0:58:130:58:18

provide security, stability and

justice for both Israelis and

0:58:180:58:23

Palestinians through such a lasting

peace.

Trying to get a decision on

0:58:230:58:31

the Swansea tidal lagoon is becoming

like Groundhog Day. Can I ask the

0:58:310:58:38

Prime Minister when she will be

ready?

I say to the honourable lady

0:58:380:58:42

as she knows this raises a number of

complex issues, we are grateful for

0:58:420:58:46

the review that was conducted and

the relevant department is still -

0:58:460:58:50

the business department is

considering this and we will respond

0:58:500:58:54

in due course.

Does the Prime

Minister agree that as we leave the

0:58:540:59:01

EU and take control of our land

management policy our manifesto

0:59:010:59:05

commitment to planned 11 million

trees is a critical part of a

0:59:050:59:10

holistic countryside management

framework which we can now build to

0:59:100:59:13

ensure long-term home grown wood for

our housing industry alongside

0:59:130:59:18

increasing our natural carbon

capture potential and reducing flood

0:59:180:59:21

risks.

Well, my honourable friend is

absolutely right, we did commit in

0:59:210:59:26

our manifesto to plant 11 million

trees. We are putting that at the

0:59:260:59:28

heart of our work to protect the

environment for future generations.

0:59:280:59:32

I am pleased to say that since April

2015 we have planted just over two

0:59:320:59:36

million trees. But we do have much

more to do and we will be continuing

0:59:360:59:40

to work with landowners and

stakeholders on this particular

0:59:400:59:43

issue. But it is also about the role

that trees play in reducing flood

0:59:430:59:54

risks and helping to hold carbon

dioxide.

0:59:541:00:01

The banister has spoken on mental

health.

Can I thank her for that?

1:00:011:00:07

When she was Home Secretary she

outlawed police cells used for those

1:00:071:00:11

in mental health crisis but today

parts of the system are in crisis.

1:00:111:00:17

In my constituency, children, young

people and families, weighted two

1:00:171:00:22

years for autism assessments. The

Secretary of State agrees it is not

1:00:221:00:30

acceptable. Can I ask the Prime

Minister if she will turn her

1:00:301:00:35

well-intentioned statements into

action?

We are taking a number of

1:00:351:00:38

courses of action and he has raised

the issue of the autism diagnosis

1:00:381:00:43

and the length of time it takes. I

know my right honourable friend the

1:00:431:00:49

Health Secretary has looked into

this and will do so because we are

1:00:491:00:52

clear we want to insure adults and

children should not have to face too

1:00:521:00:56

long for period of diagnosis to take

place. The Department of Health is

1:00:561:01:01

working with partners to address

these issues. And the clinical

1:01:011:01:13

guidance sets out assessment should

begin within three months of

1:01:131:01:16

referral. It is within the

Department of Health to work in

1:01:161:01:20

those areas to make sure it is

possible to achieve.

Tomorrow at

1:01:201:01:27

Cornwall airport the bloodhound will

carry out its first test run in the

1:01:271:01:30

next step on its quest to achieve

the land speed record. Will the

1:01:301:01:35

Prime Minister join me in wishing

the team, especially the driver Andy

1:01:351:01:40

Greene a successful test run and

does she agreed these projects show

1:01:401:01:44

the UK continues to lead the world

in innovation in science and

1:01:441:01:50

engineering?

I am very happy to join

him in wishing the team well and I

1:01:501:01:56

have met some of the members of the

team. I agree with the point he

1:01:561:02:01

makes that this continues to show

what a world leader in science and

1:02:011:02:06

innovation UK ears. We have some of

the best universities with four in

1:02:061:02:11

the world top ten and more Nobel

prizewinners than any country

1:02:111:02:16

outside of the United States. I am

sure we will all be proud of the

1:02:161:02:21

Bloodhound team.

Does the Prime

Minister agree that as a result of

1:02:211:02:31

the potential downgrading of

Huddersfield Royal Infirmary, 479

1:02:311:02:36

professionals lost, over 300

hospital beds cut and a 90 minute

1:02:361:02:42

journey to the nearest A&E are not

in the best interests of

1:02:421:02:45

constituents? And will she meets to

discuss the detrimental impact this

1:02:451:02:50

will have on the area?

The principle

we want to base their decisions on

1:02:501:02:58

is service changes should be based

on clear evidence and led by

1:02:581:03:04

clinicians who best understand what

the local needs are. I understand

1:03:041:03:09

that councils have referred the

changes to the Health Secretary and

1:03:091:03:12

I know he will consider those issues

carefully and come to a decision in

1:03:121:03:16

due course.

Next year sees the

centenary of the first woman member

1:03:161:03:25

of Parliament. Would my right

honourable friend tell us what

1:03:251:03:29

leadership and encouragement to the

women and girls in his constituency

1:03:291:03:33

to take part in public life is a

member for Sheffield Herm has shown

1:03:331:03:38

in his remarks?

Can I say --

Sheffield Hallam. It is important we

1:03:381:03:48

mark the centenary and recognise the

role women have played in this House

1:03:481:03:53

and in public life. I want to see

young women and women able to see

1:03:531:03:59

this House is the place they want to

come to, they want to contribute to

1:03:591:04:04

their society, want to respond to

needs of local constituents and make

1:04:041:04:08

a difference to people'slives. That

is what I am in it for and why I

1:04:081:04:14

encouraged women to come into this

House and I'm pleased to say we have

1:04:141:04:17

more women on our benches ever

before. Finally, all of us in this

1:04:171:04:28

House should have due care and

attention to the way in which we

1:04:281:04:32

refer to other people. And should

show women in public life the

1:04:321:04:38

respect they deserve.

Yesterday the

Scottish Parliament voted by 91-28

1:04:381:04:52

to ban fracking in Scotland. Could I

ask why the Prime Minister would not

1:04:521:04:58

consider following Scotland's lead

and introducing a moratorium on the

1:04:581:05:02

rest of the UK in order that there

can be an evaluation of the health

1:05:021:05:08

and environmental consequences of

this controversial technology and in

1:05:081:05:11

order of the public can be

consulted?

This is an issue on which

1:05:111:05:19

he and I will disagree because I

think shale gas has the potential to

1:05:191:05:24

power economic growth and it will

support thousands of jobs in the oil

1:05:241:05:28

and gas industry and other sectors

and it will provide a new domestic

1:05:281:05:32

energy source. We have more than 50

years of drilling experience and one

1:05:321:05:38

of the best records for economic

development while protecting the

1:05:381:05:41

environment. Shell wealth funds will

provide additional resources and

1:05:411:05:50

local councils will be able to

retain hundred per cent collected

1:05:501:05:56

from shale gas developments. We will

bring in further proposals but this

1:05:561:06:00

is a potential new source of energy

and it is right we use this and take

1:06:001:06:07

the benefits for the economy and

people'sfutures.

I'm sure the Prime

1:06:071:06:15

Minister is aware of the terrifying

incident on Sunday where a gunman

1:06:151:06:19

held hostages at a bowling alley in

my neighbouring constituency

1:06:191:06:24

Nuneaton, a facility enjoyed by my

constituents. Will she join me in

1:06:241:06:31

praising the excellent work in

Warwickshire Police and West

1:06:311:06:36

Midlands ambulance did in ensuring

the situation was brought to a swift

1:06:361:06:40

conclusion without casualties?

Can I

say of course we were concerned to

1:06:401:06:46

hear of the incident and I am happy

to join him and the honourable

1:06:461:06:52

member for Nuneaton in commending

the professionalism and bravery of

1:06:521:06:55

Warwickshire Police in bringing this

to a swift conclusion and to the

1:06:551:07:00

Ambulance Service in ensuring there

were no injuries. The emergency

1:07:001:07:05

services do an amazing job and this

is the sort of incident when they do

1:07:051:07:09

not know whether this is the sort of

thing they will have to be called to

1:07:091:07:12

and I was pleased to welcome

emergency services personnel to a

1:07:121:07:17

reception in Downing Street on

Monday, and what they all say and

1:07:171:07:22

always say is they were just doing

their job but my goodness me, what a

1:07:221:07:26

job they do.

On the 29th of March, I

asked the Prime Minister if she

1:07:261:07:34

would help the people of new ferry

after the huge explosion that

1:07:341:07:38

devastated the town centre. She said

she was happy to help and they would

1:07:381:07:42

be support offered to the community.

Two weeks later she called a general

1:07:421:07:47

election and her government seems to

have forgotten about the people in

1:07:471:07:52

new ferry. While she may have

forgotten, my constituents have not.

1:07:521:07:57

I ask again, precisely when will

Heard government put their hands in

1:07:571:08:01

their pockets so the people in new

ferry can rebuild their town and

1:08:011:08:06

lives?

The government has not

forgotten about the issue and I

1:08:061:08:11

understand that we are waiting for

the local council to produce

1:08:111:08:15

proposals and a business case and we

will look at those seriously.

In

1:08:151:08:22

acknowledging the hard work of the

men and women at RAF Benson in my

1:08:221:08:26

constituency for the work they did

in the Caribbean, will she

1:08:261:08:31

acknowledged the Puma to helicopter

was ready and available for work in

1:08:311:08:35

the Caribbean within a couple of

hours of having arrived?

I am very

1:08:351:08:40

happy to commend the work of those

at RAF Benson and those in the

1:08:401:08:46

military and volunteers who provided

support after the devastating

1:08:461:08:51

hurricanes that took place and I am

also happy to agree with him that

1:08:511:08:55

contrary to some stories put about,

we were there, on time, and able to

1:08:551:09:04

act quickly in getting people

support.

We can all agree no one

1:09:041:09:10

should ever be persecuted on account

of their sexuality. Last week at the

1:09:101:09:16

Pink News awards, the Prime Minister

said we had come a long way on LGBT

1:09:161:09:21

rights that there is more to do. Can

I ask to start that work today by

1:09:211:09:28

promising that never again will the

Home Office deport LGBT asylum

1:09:281:09:34

seekers to countries where they are

unlikely to be persecuted with the

1:09:341:09:39

instruction that they pretend to be

straight?

Can I say to the

1:09:391:09:45

honourable lady this is an issue

that we take seriously. I think I'm

1:09:451:09:51

right in saying the Conservative

government changed the rules on

1:09:511:09:54

asylum seeking to introduce the

category of those who could face

1:09:541:09:58

persecution in their home of origin

because of their sexuality. I am

1:09:581:10:03

pleased that was done and I am sure

the Home Office treats all cases

1:10:031:10:08

with a sensitivity that is

appropriate.

As of 2016, 17% of the

1:10:081:10:18

premises in Scotland were without

superfast broadband compared to 11%

1:10:181:10:23

for the UK as a whole. Will she join

me in calling on the Scottish

1:10:231:10:29

Government to do more and

constructively engage with

1:10:291:10:34

departments in Westminster to

deliver this crucial service in

1:10:341:10:37

communities in Scotland?

Can I

say...

Can I say? Order! All sorts

1:10:371:10:51

of curious hand and finger gestures

are being deployed, each trying to

1:10:511:10:56

outdo the other in terms of

eccentricity but I am interested in

1:10:561:11:01

hearing the Prime Minister's reply.

Can I say that we all recognise the

1:11:011:11:07

importance of broadband and fast

broadband being available to people

1:11:071:11:12

but he is right, the members of the

Scottish Nationalist party come to

1:11:121:11:17

Westminster. They spend a lot of

time talking about Powell is for the

1:11:171:11:27

Scottish Government. It is time the

Scottish Government got on with

1:11:271:11:30

using its powers for the benefit of

people in Scotland.

Mr Speaker, in

1:11:301:11:39

the past fortnight we have heard the

announcement of the loss of many

1:11:391:11:42

hundreds of jobs in Lancashire at

BAE Systems sites which is a hammer

1:11:421:11:49

blow to workers and families. Today

I want to raise a proposed closure

1:11:491:11:55

impressed and that will mean the

loss of another 180 jobs. We keep

1:11:551:12:00

hearing the hype about the Northern

Powerhouse. Why are aerospace and

1:12:001:12:06

trade manufacturers in the North

shedding jobs by hundreds?

I

1:12:061:12:11

recognise this is a worrying time

for workers involved. Obviously, we

1:12:111:12:17

will ensure through the Department

for Work and Pensions they have

1:12:171:12:20

support to look for new jobs which

includes the rapid response service

1:12:201:12:25

which gives particular support to

people in these areas. In relation

1:12:251:12:30

to the decision by BAE Systems, I

assure the house we will continue to

1:12:301:12:37

promote this industry and I hope all

Labour members will continue to

1:12:371:12:41

promote the defence industry. I am

glad that last month we signed a

1:12:411:12:52

statement of intent with Qatar and

last year the Ministry of Defence

1:12:521:12:56

spent £3.7 billion with Bae and are

working with them to maximise export

1:12:561:13:03

opportunities for Typhoons in Hawks

to retain jobs in the UK.

When it

1:13:031:13:11

comes to tackling homelessness,

prevention is better than cure, so I

1:13:111:13:15

am delighted the government backed

my Homelessness Reduction Act. One

1:13:151:13:19

of the obstacles to people is

putting together a deposit for rent

1:13:191:13:26

and help with the rent. Will my

right honourable friend look at a

1:13:261:13:30

scheme that will provide 32,000

people a year the opportunity to

1:13:301:13:35

rent for an investment of £3.1

million per year, and not only that,

1:13:351:13:40

to save the public purse up to £1.8

billion over a three-year period?

I

1:13:401:13:48

thank him for the issue he has

campaigned on, the issue of

1:13:481:13:53

homelessness and preventing

homelessness and I am pleased we

1:13:531:13:56

supported his Homelessness Reduction

Act and I think that will be an

1:13:561:14:00

important contribution. I understand

on the specific issue he has raised,

1:14:001:14:05

he has made a representation to the

Chancellor and I am sure he will

1:14:051:14:11

look at that representation

carefully. On the general issue of

1:14:111:14:14

helping people to buy and helping

with deposits, I'm pleased to

1:14:141:14:19

announce the extra £10 million of

the to buy scheme, which makes a to

1:14:191:14:24

people to get into homes.

The

workforce, the unions and management

1:14:241:14:34

at Bombardier in Belfast deserve

credit for the way they responded to

1:14:341:14:37

the threats coming from the United

States and Boeing, which is a threat

1:14:371:14:43

to their jobs. Can the Prime

Minister given assurance she will

1:14:431:14:49

continue building on the good work

that has happened through herself

1:14:491:14:54

the Secretary of State for business

and also the Northern Ireland

1:14:541:14:57

Secretary and work with the unions

and management to ensure the threat

1:14:571:15:01

of tariffs is removed. The C series

is a success story and thousands of

1:15:011:15:07

jobs in Belfast are protected and

across the United Kingdom, as well?

1:15:071:15:12

I am very happy to give that

commitment. A lot of work has been

1:15:121:15:17

done in relation to this by myself

and by the Business Secretary and

1:15:171:15:21

Chancellor and other ministers with

their opposite numbers in America

1:15:211:15:26

and Canada. We will continue to do

that work. Most recent announcement

1:15:261:15:32

made in relation to Airbus and the C

series is important, but we want to

1:15:321:15:38

ensure those jobs stay in Northern

Ireland because we recognise the

1:15:381:15:41

importance of the jobs for the

economy of Northern Ireland and for

1:15:411:15:45

the people and their families.

Order.

1:15:451:15:47

Jeremy Corbyn went on universal

credit. He probably thinks he is

1:15:531:16:02

scratching -- scratching at a

bruise. We have some figures. Only

1:16:021:16:09

8% of those in receipt of benefits

are now being covered by the

1:16:091:16:14

rollout. 10% by January and won't

finish until 2022. The Prime

1:16:141:16:20

Minister claimed four out of five

subject to this rollout are

1:16:201:16:23

satisfied. Jeremy Corbyn pointed out

that meant 20% were not happy with

1:16:231:16:29

what happened and caused problems

getting into rent arrears and so on.

1:16:291:16:33

Then a walk down memory lane on

Labour's welfare policies versus

1:16:331:16:37

Tory welfare policies. Going all the

way back to Labour's introduction of

1:16:371:16:41

tax credits. Jeremy Corbyn finished

on the problem of low pay and rising

1:16:411:16:49

rents and problems with universal

credit being paid in time, of which

1:16:491:16:54

there have been a number of cases.

Interestingly, earlier on, the Prime

1:16:541:16:59

Minister made an important

announcement, particularly for those

1:16:591:17:03

in the private rented sector, if you

are on low pay in the private

1:17:031:17:07

represented sector you qualify for

what is called local housing

1:17:071:17:12

allowance. MrOsbourne when he was

Chancellor had frozen that allowance

1:17:121:17:17

and as inflation is getting higher

that becomes a cut in real terms.

1:17:171:17:20

Although we haven't got all the

details it would seem that freeze on

1:17:201:17:28

LHA, which goes to the poorer of the

1. 5 million private renters, then

1:17:281:17:35

that freeze is now over. It could be

worth several hundred pounds, I

1:17:351:17:40

understand. We will get more details

of that as the day goes on. It was -

1:17:401:17:45

the announcement was rather hidden.

I think the Prime Minister may also

1:17:451:17:48

referred they were going to look at

the social housing element of this,

1:17:481:17:51

as well. You have been following

this, haven't you?

Yes, I think she

1:17:511:17:54

just said they would be looking at

the cap on the local housing

1:17:541:17:57

allowance...

Which was the freeze.

Indeed. There has been changes that

1:17:571:18:01

have meant that much wider areas are

covered. For example, for a high

1:18:011:18:06

cost we are assessed as having the

same cost as the whole of

1:18:061:18:09

Oxfordshire. I think she was talking

about social rented sector. If it

1:18:091:18:13

was...

Not the private side?

I think

that would have a very big impact,

1:18:131:18:19

just covering councils, I hope this

will be adequate funded because a

1:18:191:18:23

lot of them are already very

stretched but I suppose we need to

1:18:231:18:26

see the detail.

There are 4. 5

million people who now rent

1:18:261:18:31

privately, households, not people.

It's a big increase, twice what it

1:18:311:18:35

was in the year 2000. Partly because

people can't afford their own homes

1:18:351:18:40

any more. 1. 5 million of these

people are on the poorer end of the

1:18:401:18:46

income scale, they depend on this

LHA to be able to pay their rent. It

1:18:461:18:51

would be a case for doing something

about them too if they're not

1:18:511:18:54

covered.

As you rightly say, people

in social housing are all covered by

1:18:541:18:58

that now. You make a good point

about the rising rents in the

1:18:581:19:03

private sector. I think that we will

hear more details today about a

1:19:031:19:09

separate proposal to use at least a

third of the savings that we managed

1:19:091:19:15

to make from the freeze that has

come to an end.

The freeze has come

1:19:151:19:19

to an end?

I believe so.

For private

as well as social?

No, for social -

1:19:191:19:27

we have made savings and we are

going to make a third of those

1:19:271:19:33

savings available to areas in the

country where private rents are even

1:19:331:19:37

higher than the average. So that we

are doing something to help people

1:19:371:19:40

who are renting in the private

sector.

Well, you will be aware,

1:19:401:19:46

according to the ONS that the

problem, because the demand for

1:19:461:19:50

private rent has been growing so

much and this applies not so much,

1:19:501:19:55

people on low incomes find it hard

to meet the rent rises, particularly

1:19:551:20:00

if they have problems with universal

credit and so on, according to the

1:20:001:20:07

ONS the ending of private sectors

tenancies is the single biggest

1:20:071:20:12

cause of statutory homelessness in

England. These are people made

1:20:121:20:16

homeless because they - the rent has

gone up in the private sector and

1:20:161:20:20

they can't afford the rent rise.

That would seem to be rather serious

1:20:201:20:26

social problem.

I quite agree, I

think it is a serious problem that's

1:20:261:20:30

why we are trying to address it at

the higher end of rent increases in

1:20:301:20:35

areas where they are significantly

above the average. There will be

1:20:351:20:39

money made available to assist

people.

Briefly

If I may that's

1:20:391:20:44

short-term, we need to deal with

precious in the first place, if you

1:20:441:20:47

are taking money from a previous

cost savings that's going to run out

1:20:471:20:50

quickly. We need to have a long-term

solution and Labour set out some

1:20:501:20:54

ways.

One of the ways is to build

more houses.

When are you going to

1:20:541:20:59

do that?

The Prime Minister is going

to take charge of this area of

1:20:591:21:04

policy, she has the former housing

Minister...

We know all that.

We

1:21:041:21:08

will see progress.

We will keep an

eye on whether there is that

1:21:081:21:12

progress, we have heard it before. I

want to talk about Brexit. Before we

1:21:121:21:17

do, more on this story about whether

parliament would get a vote on the

1:21:171:21:22

final Brexit deal before we leave in

March 2019.

1:21:221:21:28

The Brexit Secretary this

morning suggested that,

1:21:281:21:29

if negotiations went up to the wire,

that any Parliamentary vote

1:21:291:21:32

might not happen till

AFTER we leave in 2019.

1:21:321:21:34

Number Ten has issued

a clarification saying,

1:21:341:21:36

"the Government's intention

and expectation is to get a deal

1:21:361:21:38

in good time for the vote to happen

before we leave in March 2019.

1:21:381:21:44

David Davis was asking

a hypothetical question."

1:21:441:21:53

I thought that was my job! He

answered a hypothetical question.

1:21:531:21:58

Let's speak now to Nicky Morgan,

former Education Secretary and now

1:21:581:22:01

Chairman of the Treasury

Select Committee.

1:22:011:22:05

What do you make of the idea that if

negotiations went down to the wire

1:22:051:22:12

in March parliament wouldn't get a

vote until after Article 50 had

1:22:121:22:15

already been triggered or done?

It

would be completely pointless to

1:22:151:22:19

have a vote at that stage, it's

clearly unacceptable. The Prime

1:22:191:22:23

Minister's been very clear and she

just made it clear again in Prime

1:22:231:22:26

Minister's questions she's expecting

there will be a deal and a good

1:22:261:22:29

deal, and also parliament, the UK

parliament, will have time to vote

1:22:291:22:33

on it. As will the European

Parliaments and that's always been

1:22:331:22:37

understood, the EU parliament and

other parliaments around Europe will

1:22:371:22:40

want to have their say. So, it would

be completely wrong and go against

1:22:401:22:44

all that ministers have said that we

wouldn't get a vote.

Right. But what

1:22:441:22:48

if it does go down to the wire? What

if it goes to the last week of

1:22:481:22:53

March, it's not unprecedented in the

way Europe's done its business, I

1:22:531:22:58

have been at European summits where

they stopped the clock at one stage

1:22:581:23:01

they were running so far, what if

that happens and then by the end of

1:23:011:23:06

March we are out, a deal may have

been done for the final minute, but

1:23:061:23:09

you don't get to vote and after it's

a done deal. ?

Well, I have also

1:23:091:23:16

been at EU summits as a Minister and

you are right often negotiations do

1:23:161:23:20

go down to the wire. The danger of

answering hypothetical questions as

1:23:201:23:24

David Davis said this morning is

that you end up in hotter water. But

1:23:241:23:29

of course there is a procedure for

the 27 to mutually agree to extend

1:23:291:23:34

obviously the Article 50 deadline

for a period of time, I suppose what

1:23:341:23:39

could happen is if everyone was

clear a final deal was there, but

1:23:391:23:42

there wasn't enough time to have the

votes, then there will be time

1:23:421:23:46

extended to be able to do that. I

cannot see the Europeans, the EU

1:23:461:23:51

member states, the parliament, not

having a final say and the whole

1:23:511:23:55

point about Brexit is to take back

control, that control has to come

1:23:551:23:59

back to the Sovereign parliament,

they have to have a final meaningful

1:23:591:24:03

vote.

But you will know as well as

I, because you will have poured over

1:24:031:24:08

Article 50, for an extension for

that period to be given all 27 of

1:24:081:24:13

the other members have to agree. It

would only take one, Czech Republic,

1:24:131:24:18

maybe in a bad mood, Austria, is in

a bad mood at the moment, just one

1:24:181:24:26

and you can't extend it.

Well, you

are right. It has to be absolutely

1:24:261:24:30

unanimous. I think to be honest the

EU parliament and the member states

1:24:301:24:34

have made clear they want to have a

say. The danger of all of this issue

1:24:341:24:38

about Brexit is we are all busy

dealing in what ifs and what might

1:24:381:24:42

happen, the Prime Minister was right

when she said I am working on the

1:24:421:24:46

basis and you talked about

clarification put out by Number 10,

1:24:461:24:49

they're working on the basis there

will be a good deal and time for

1:24:491:24:53

parliaments here and in Europe to

have their say. I think that's the

1:24:531:24:56

basis on which we have to proceed.

That's why MPs like me, MPs like

1:24:561:25:02

Dominic Grieve put down an amendment

to say there has to be a final

1:25:021:25:08

meaningful vote. It's not yet in

legislation. That's why the

1:25:081:25:11

amendment to the withdrawal bill

which we are told we are going to

1:25:111:25:15

discuss from mid-November onwards is

so important to secure.

Thank you

1:25:151:25:18

for rushing out of the chamber to

join us. So, John, clear as mud!

1:25:181:25:30

Pretty much, yeah. The Prime

Minister fell back on the argument

1:25:301:25:35

that she imagines that the Brexit

talks will be done and dusted with

1:25:351:25:39

time to spare, months to spare. Time

to come back to Westminster and no

1:25:391:25:43

doubt as she would hope get a clear

nod from parliament, good on you, go

1:25:431:25:48

and finish and sign. That looks like

an optimistic reading of the way

1:25:481:25:52

this may well pan out. We have seen

Brexiteers around the Tory Party and

1:25:521:25:59

beyond arguing that if the EU gress

to demands and allows frictionless

1:25:591:26:03

trade now after Brexit we can do

that deal in a moment.

Because you

1:26:031:26:09

are coming off free trade to

something less.

And then carry on

1:26:091:26:14

because that's what we all want.

Problem is it's not what everyone

1:26:141:26:16

wants. If you listen to Donald Tusk,

the President of the Council of

1:26:161:26:22

Ministers, he says, Europe has to

win and win was pretty much his

1:26:221:26:26

word. Arguing that for these

negotiations to succeed, you have to

1:26:261:26:29

be worse off outside the European

Union than at least you were in.

1:26:291:26:33

That means if nothing else,

difficult negotiations ahead. Not

1:26:331:26:41

arguably months to spare. Are they

going to force the Government to

1:26:411:26:46

guarantee this sort of final say?

You are shaking your head.

Well, I

1:26:461:26:51

don't shaur your pessimistic view

about the likelihood of achieving a

1:26:511:26:57

good trade deal, of course, the

European Union are not going to let

1:26:571:27:02

us leave without what in their view

is a status which isn't the same and

1:27:021:27:06

isn't as good, but in our view if we

can get control of our borders and

1:27:061:27:12

end free movement that is a big

bonus which our electorate decided

1:27:121:27:15

upon last year. If we can get, with

- don't forget we are leaving with

1:27:151:27:20

regulatory equivalents on

everything, so that we should be

1:27:201:27:22

able to be in a position to have a

good trade deal.

That would require

1:27:221:27:27

the goodwill of the Commission. I

suppose it's reasonable as Nicky

1:27:271:27:31

Morgan said, if the deal is done on

the 11th hour of the 11th day sort

1:27:311:27:35

of thing, the last minute t would be

reasonable for the other 27 to say,

1:27:351:27:40

all right, we will, for the

ratification period, we will do

1:27:401:27:43

another three months or four months.

Well, I think it would be but what I

1:27:431:27:46

am concerned about is the Government

is presenting these negotiations as

1:27:461:27:50

if they're some poker game where

there is just effectively Theresa

1:27:501:27:55

May in the room with perhaps others,

it's more complex and we have been

1:27:551:27:59

saying for a long time the

Government should be much clearer

1:27:591:28:02

that we need to commit to pushing

for this transition period now, get

1:28:021:28:08

that organised, once we have done

that... Again I mentioned this

1:28:081:28:10

earlier, that Theresa May seems to

be now saying we can't decide on it

1:28:101:28:13

until we have all the details.

We

can't decide because we have run out

1:28:131:28:17

of time. And I am still confused.

Let's put you out of your misery and

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give you the answer to Guess The

Year. It was...

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