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Morning, folks.

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Welcome to the Daily Politics.

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How much wiggle room

does the Chancellor have

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for his Budget next month?

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Latest figures show the economy

picked up a little bit of speed

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in the third quarter of this year.

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Could that mean a small rise

in interest rates next week?

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Labour MP Jared O'Mara should be

suspended according to two

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MPs from his own party.

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He denies abusing a young woman

in an incident in March.

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We'll have the latest.

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When will Parliament vote on a

Brexit deal? David Davis said it

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could happen after March 20 19.

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And we'll full coverage of today's

big parliamentary clash -

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Prime Minister's Questions will be

live and uninterrupted from midday.

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All that in the next 90 minutes.

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With me for the duration

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the Business Minister Margot James

and the Shadow Treasury

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Minister Anneliese Dodds.

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Welcome to you both.

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Jared O'Mara is the Labour MP who

defeated Nick Clegg in the Sheffield

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Hallam seat in the election and has

been in trouble since the website

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Guido Fawkes published details of

comments he made many years ago and

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then more today from 2009, and an

allegation we will show you more

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recently. As we came on air, the

Labour Party announced Jared O'Mara

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had been suspended. The Labour whip

has been withdrawn from him pending

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an investigation into what he is

alleged to have said. That will now

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go one. He will not be covered by

the Labour whip until the

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investigation is finished.

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Sophie Evans told this programme

yesterday that O'Mara verbally

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abused her while out

in with friends - a claim

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more recent that he strongly denies.

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JoCo asked Sophie what

exactly he said to her.

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Some of the things

are not broadcastable.

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But there were some

transphobic slurs in there.

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He called me an ugly

BLEEP.

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I just thought, wow,

he's not a very nice man,

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and kind of just forgot about it.

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I knew that he was

kind of involved in

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politics, but I had no idea

at the time that he was running

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for MP for Sheffield Hallam,

which is my constituency.

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The news this morning Jared O'Mara

the Labour MP, the whip has been

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suspended, taken away while the

investigation goes on.

Labour should

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have done this from the start? To be

fair, the allegations and

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information about what he said has

only come out the last couple of

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days and Labour acted quickly,

saying they need to be an

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investigation. The suspension has

been agreed as of now and it is

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important we have a proper

investigation and find out what has

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happened. Jared O'Mara came to the

PLP meeting on Monday night and

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apologised, but an apology is not

enough we need an investigation. It

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shows it is being taken seriously.

It is Labour Party process that if

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someone is investigated, you suspend

them during the investigation and

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that did not happen.

I am not sure

that is always the case.

I quote one

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saying they have rules in the Labour

Party, we suspend and investigate

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and make a decision, fellow Labour

MP.

About that specific person,

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perhaps but generally the Labour

Party will deal with issues within

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the rules, which I do not think say

you have to suspend an individual

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but clearly the party came to the

decision in this case it was right

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to suspend him while the

investigation goes on and it should

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happen because what he said was not

acceptable and we need to find out

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if the latest allegations are true.

Jared O'Mara was essentially chosen

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to stand against Nick Clegg by the

NEC. He was essentially forced onto

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the constituency. Did not one in the

NEC vet him?

As you know all

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candidates certainly for the Labour

Party and most other parties are

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chosen through an accelerated

process, normally they would be

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chosen by a vote through members...

Does the NEC not to vet candidates

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they are essentially forcing onto

the constituency?

There was a panel

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and in my case there was a panel

formed from the NEC that would go

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through the different candidates and

party at the investigation will be

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finding out exactly how that process

went.

He had been a Labour candidate

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before, so this was the second time,

so he was known to the party, it was

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not the constituency decision, it

was an NEC decision he stand against

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Nick Clegg. Did not one in Labour

headquarters vet him?

You are also

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required, as a candidate, to say if

there is anything in your history

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that could cause embarrassment to

the party and it is important to

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people take that seriously.

He

must've said no. I do not know. If

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you said yes, surely you would not

let him run? There has to be a

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balance. If you knew he had said

things that cannot be repeated on

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daytime television, if he had said

these things, the homophobic, the

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sexist comments, racist comments

about Spaniards and Danes, are you

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telling me, if you knew that, he

would have been allowed to stand as

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a candidate?

It would not have been

my decision and I do not think as an

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elected politician it would be right

for me to choose.

Would your party

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have allowed him to stand?

I would

say around this, on Monday evening,

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he said that he was very embarrassed

and ashamed about what he said back

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then and accepted it was wrong and

said he had changed as a person. We

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have had more recent allegations

since but the issue is, if you have

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people, who in the past held views

that are horrible, but they now

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renounce the views and say they are

ashamed of them and they are a

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different person and want to work to

help the people they were being

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horrible about before, should we say

in every case we turn our backs?

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Only when a Tory says it, that is

the Labour attitude. When it is

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Tories, they should be hung, drawn,

quartered. When it is a fellow

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Labour MP you say he is on a

journey.

He is being investigated. I

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am not saying it is the case with

him. I have never been like that, to

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be fair. In the past, if they were

announced it and said they regretted

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it and want to right wrongs, that is

the right thing to do.

The most

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recent remarks involving Angelina

Jolie, I think. In some ways more

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horrendous than the previous ones,

they were in 2009 and he had already

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been a Labour candidate.

I have not

seen the most recent remarks but

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there is an investigation within the

Labour Party that will decide about

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his future within the party which is

the right thing to do. It is

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appropriate we look at evidence and

decide the way forward.

Mr Omar Rowe

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denies the allegations made on the

Daily Politics yesterday. -- Jared

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O'Mara denies those allegations from

yesterday on the programme. The

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original ones are from 15 years ago

and he has apologised. He was very

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young 15 years ago. Should he be

allowed to apologise and get on with

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it?

If it just pertains to remarks

made as a young man and he said he

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was going through a troublesome

patch, I do not feel, these days, we

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can necessarily condemn people out

of hand, never shall they represent

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people in Parliament, for remarks

made at a young age. I am

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sympathetic to the decision by the

Labour Party not to suspend him

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straightaway. The more recent

allegations are more serious and

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need to be investigated. Sophie who

was on a few minutes ago seemed a

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credible witness and serious

allegations to be answered.

We will

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see how the investigation goes.

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Brexit Secretary David Davis says

Parliament may not get a chance to

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vote on any deal with the EU before

we leave. He has been speaking in

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the Commons to the Brexit Select

Committee.

Let's listen. You have

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made two observations, the first is

your answer when you said it is

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possible Parliament might not vote

on the deal until after the end of

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March 20 19. I am summarising

correctly what you said?

In the

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event we do not do the deal until

then.

That was Hilary Benn, the

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chairman of the Brexit Select

Committee. We used him to clarify

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what had been said.

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Will Parliament get a vote on the

deal?

Parliament has agreed, the

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government agreed for a vote on the

deal by Parliament and that was

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agreed in March.

So there will be a

vote. Whatever, assuming a deal is

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done, what ever is agreed with

Michel Barnier and David Davis, the

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deal is there, Parliament will get a

vote for and against?

That is what

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Parliament agreed in March. When

will that vote the? You heard what

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David Davis said. I think the

government is confident of getting a

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deal before the actual deadline of

March 19. In any case, we are

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pressing for an implementation

period of approximately two years

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after that date.

That will be part

of the deal?

We would hope to get

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that agreed sooner than the final

deal because we need that certainty.

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The implementation period will be

part of the deal? The implementation

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period I imagine would be part of

the deal that we have to remember

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nothing is agreed until everything

is agreed and I would not want to be

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too pronounced on that but the

objective the Prime Minister set

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out, which is a two-year roughly

implementation period will be

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agreed, hopefully by the end of this

year, early next.

You say it is

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clear, but it is not clear, some of

the finest minds in the building

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spent the morning trying to work out

what David Davis was saying. Let me

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continue with basic questions. What

would be the point of a vote in

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parliament after March 2019? When in

effect we would have left?

You only

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played a short clip from the hearing

and my impression from what David

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Davis was saying was that, in

theory, if the negotiations went up

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to midnight on D-Day, Parliament

might have a vote immediately

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afterwards. What with the? I think

his tone was such that would be

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unlikely.

He he raised it. The

committee raised it. He answered it

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saying yes. If there were a vote

after 2019 on a deal, the deal has

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been done, it went to the wire,

which has happened in Europe, but

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the vote cannot happen until after

the end. Surely the Parliament's

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choices Hobson's Choice, to vote for

the deal or to vote to leave without

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a deal.

That is the choice? I think

we are getting ahead of ourselves.

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We want to negotiate the

implementation period and we have

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had a good response from Europe in

that they also want that and that

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should be in place.

If it goes to

the wire, there will not be a vote

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until after the Article 50 process

is done and dusted?

If the

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implementation period is agreed as

part of the overall length of time,

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there will not be any change.

Either

we get out with the deal, or get out

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without one. Parliament having a

vote is no real choice on that.

I

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think if there is a serious threat

of Britain leaving without a deal we

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will know before March 20 19.

That

is not what David Davis said this

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morning so it is not that clear.

What do you make of it? I think we

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are in a worrying situation. The

Prime Minister sowed more seeds of

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confusion because she said, and does

not seem to have gone against this,

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that we could not sort out the

transition deal until we sort of the

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trade deal which is part of the

final deal. The government seems all

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over the place and it is worrying

because it has an impact on

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businesses already and on individual

citizens, particularly EU citizens,

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so I implore the government to get

more of a grip on this.

Will the

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trade deal, the future relationship

with the EU, be part of the deal, or

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will it be decided in the

transition?

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I would hope that would be part of

the deal. Article 50 actually states

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when we leave the European Union we

leave with our future arrangements

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agreed, at least in principle. So I

expect

You don't know?

I think what

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you have to remember, Andrew, there

are two parties to this negotiation.

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But I am remembering - I am not

asking about the EU's position. I am

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trying to get the Government's

position and you are not able to

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tell me.

The Government's position

is that we will leave the European

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Union in March 2019 with an

proximate length of two years for an

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implementation period for business

to get used to...

I asked if there

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would be a trade teal or not.

I

would hope...

You would hope.

Of

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course.

We will see if things get

clarified as the day goes on. It was

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a confusing session in place that

MrDavis had with the Commons Select

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Committee:

Committee.

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The latest figures show that

economic growth has picked up

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month, and has prompted fresh

speculation that a rise in interest

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rates could be in the offing

when the Bank of England

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meets next week.

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So how is the economy doing?

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Elizabeth Glinka is

here with the details.

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That's right, Andrew.

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The economy is estimated to have

grown by 0.4% in the third

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quarter of this year.

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That's a slightly higher growth rate

than we saw in the previous quarter.

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Earlier this month, the Office

for Budget Responsibility

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said that productivity,

that's the amount generated

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by each worker per hour,

has grown by just 0.2% per year

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on average over the last five years.

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However, the monthly deficit,

that's the amount the Government

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borrows every month,

fell to £5.9 billion in September.

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That's the lowest

Government borrowing in any

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September since 2007.

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But inflation remains high,

it's currently at 3%,

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according to the latest figures,

and that will squeeze people's

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incomes and spending power.

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The unemployment rate

is still at an historic low,

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it's currently at 4.3%

which is the joint lowest

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it's been since 1975.

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And next week the Bank

of England will have to decide

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whether to raise the interest rate.

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Last month, the bank

hinted that the rate,

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which is currently a quarter

of a percent, may rise

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in the near future.

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That would be bad news for people

with mortgages and other debts.

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And Philip Hammond will, of course,

have to make all these figures add

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up in his Budget which is exactly

four weeks away on

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Wednesday 22nd November.

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Let's speak now to our economics

editor Kamal Ahmed, who's

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at the Francis Crick Institute

in central London where

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the Chancellor has been

visiting this morning.

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In the glorious sunshine as well in

this late autumn. So growth a wee

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bit better than the case in the

first and second quarters, but --

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rises the chance of interest rates

too, what's your take on it?

I

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think, as you say, it's sunnier here

today, and I have just been with the

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Chancellor at the Francis Crick

Institute where he has announced

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more money for science research, £17

million. They won't be hanging the

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bunting out at the Treasury, but he

felt in a slightly better mood about

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the economic news. It's not

euphoria, but it's resilience as he

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would describe it, the economy at

the moment. That's around services,

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we are still buying stuff. The

consumer is still feeling confident,

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despite that income squeeze that you

have been talking about. Also

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manufacturing, of course, sterling

has declined in value, meant that

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exports, for example, abroad are

more competitive. That seems to be

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reflected in the manufacturing

figures. Still big problems over

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productivity. I have spoken to the

Chancellor, he is under pressure

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from some Cabinet ministers, on

housing, for example, saying we

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should borrow more. Cool note on

that to me from the Chancellor. I

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think he still is trying to reveal

he is a true fiscal Conservative as

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he would describe himself, he wants

to get that budget into balance by

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the middle of the next decade.

Didn't seem to signal he wanted to

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open the taps to me, despite the

claims from education, from health,

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from housing, that more money needs

to be spent. So he says he still

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wants to go steady as we go. He said

Brexit uncertainty was still there.

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Certainly today a sense of slightly

better news on the British economy

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and, frankly, that notion of

resilience, there is still momentum

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in the way we are performing.

Thank

you.

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So, growth is rising again. The

fiscal deficit is down. Unemployment

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is as low, has never been lower

since Harald Wilson was in Downing

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Street. It's not quite what

Remainers like you told us would

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happen to the British economy.

It's

important nobody talks down the

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British economy, I am proud of it.

There are two areas that weren't

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covered in the otherwise very good

reports there. First of all, around

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living standards. We have had the

longest squeeze on wages in Britain

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since Napoleonic times. When people

are spending a lot is driven by debt

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which is concerning, we are seeing

record levels of consumer debt.

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Secondly, we need to put Britain

into the context of other comparable

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countries. We are 31st out of 34OECD

countries at the moment for our GDP

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growth. That's not a record we

should be proud of. We are behind

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the eurozone countries when it comes

to growth. Yes, a little bit more

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growth, that's positive. But put us

into international comparison...

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Your side of the Brexit argument

didn't tell us growth was going to

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continue. Didn't tell us the deficit

would continue continue to come

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down. Rather than unemployment

continue to fall, you told us it

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would soar. So you were wrong?

I

never made claims saying that birds

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were going to fall out of the sky

the day after...

I didn't mention

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birds, just talked about jobs and

growth.

I have a lot of concerns

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about the problems with the British

economy and you can see that in

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international comparison. Yes, we

may have a little tick up in GDP

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growth, but as I said, into

comparison with other developed

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countries, we are really doing very,

very poorly.

Actually that's not

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quite true. You are taking it

short-term. Since the great crash,

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all right, you tell me, compare the

growth rates of the eurozone since

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the great crash with Britain, what

answer do you get?

Actually, since

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the great crash we have had the

slowest growing three quarters

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recently in Britain.

That's been

this year. This economy is now about

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8% bigger than it was before the

crash. How big is the eurozone

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economy?

In overall terms, some of

those countries fell faster than we

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did. Greece, etc had enormous

problems. Currently...

No, how big

0:22:080:22:12

is it?

I can't tell you off the top

of my head.

It's still smaller, I

0:22:120:22:18

will tell you. Britain and America

have. You don't know your figures.

0:22:180:22:23

The eurozone, is that actually,

people's as growth is kicked in,

0:22:230:22:27

people's incomes have been going up.

That has not happened in Britain. We

0:22:270:22:32

are unique pretty much...

We are not

going up in 2011, 12, 13. Let me

0:22:320:22:43

come to Margaret James. You told us

growth would collapse, the deficit

0:22:430:22:48

would rise, joblessness would soar

in the short-term. You were wrong,

0:22:480:22:52

as well.

Well, certainly the

Treasury forecasts were wrong, yes.

0:22:520:22:56

I certainly didn't use any of those

Treasury forecasts in anything that

0:22:560:23:02

I campaigned on or wrote about.

It

was just George Osborne was it?

It I

0:23:020:23:08

appreciate it sounds like I am

trying to disown it. I would never

0:23:080:23:13

have gone with those rather extreme

projections.

Did you say that to

0:23:130:23:18

George Osborne at the time, you

didn't believe the projections?

I

0:23:180:23:20

said it to everybody involved in the

campaign that I knew at the time,

0:23:200:23:23

yes.

You didn't cast doubt on them

in public?

I never used them.

0:23:230:23:28

Because I thought they weren't the

real problem. The real worries for

0:23:280:23:35

me were much longer term. It was

really around foreign and direct

0:23:350:23:39

investment, which accounts for

approximately 50% of our economy,

0:23:390:23:44

inspired by foreign direct

investment in the British economy.

0:23:440:23:48

The FDI doesn't account for 50% of

GDP.

In terms of the number of

0:23:480:23:53

companies foreign investors invest

in and drive, it is a huge

0:23:530:23:57

proportion. I think it is almost

50%.

Have you seen signs of that

0:23:570:24:01

falling?

I think there are concerns.

I think that we need to be alive to

0:24:010:24:04

those concerns.

Is FDI falling?

It's

not falling yet.

You are the

0:24:040:24:11

business Minister.

There are threats

on the horizon. We have managed, I

0:24:110:24:15

think, if I could just finish, we

have managed to allay a lot of the

0:24:150:24:21

concerns in the short-term about

foreign direct investment in

0:24:210:24:25

industries like the auto industry.

The key word is yet, in area answer.

0:24:250:24:29

Exactly.

So you still fear it could

fall?

We have to be alive to this.

0:24:290:24:34

This is why it's so important that

we secure a good deal on our exit

0:24:340:24:40

from the European Union. And we give

investors, both British investors

0:24:400:24:44

and foreign investors confidence

that we can continue to trade

0:24:440:24:46

effectively and easily with the

single market.

The British economy

0:24:460:24:51

has slowed this year. Even with the

latest figures for quarter three

0:24:510:24:55

which show a bit of a rise again. Do

you put that down to Brexit?

Well,

0:24:550:24:59

the British economy is, the last

quarter is slightly better than

0:24:590:25:02

people forecast.

Overall, it's

slowed.

I think...

Probably less.

0:25:020:25:11

That was the figure I was given this

morning. It's a respectable level of

0:25:110:25:15

growth, considering the adjustment

we are making and obviously the

0:25:150:25:20

uncertainty that Brexit has aroused,

we have to take that on board and

0:25:200:25:24

despite the economy is growing. And

the other things that were outlined

0:25:240:25:28

in the film.

Of the major economies,

who is growing more slowly than us

0:25:280:25:33

this year?

Of the G7 we will have to

wait...

Not just that, make it the

0:25:330:25:38

G20.

There is no doubt our growth

has slowed relative to our

0:25:380:25:42

neighbours. But don't forget that it

was fast above our neighbours prior

0:25:420:25:46

to the beginning of this year.

Who

is growing more slowly now?

Within

0:25:460:25:52

the G7 I think that, we will have to

wait until the year end, we will be

0:25:520:25:56

one of the slower growing economies.

Among the OECD countries, only

0:25:560:26:02

Portugal and Turkey are growing more

slowly.

You always have the answer

0:26:020:26:06

to questions you pose, Andrew. Let's

wait until the year end.

Very well.

0:26:060:26:10

Not long to go, actually!

How many shopping days to Christmas!

0:26:100:26:17

Let's not go there.

0:26:170:26:20

The big news today isn't Brexit,

it isn't the GDP figures,

0:26:200:26:23

it isn't even Donald Trump.

0:26:230:26:24

It is, of course, the news that

Jeremy Corbyn has agreed to appear

0:26:240:26:27

on the hit Channel 4 show Gogglebox.

0:26:270:26:29

As you would expect,

there's been a lot of speculation

0:26:290:26:31

about what Mr Corbyn's favourite

show will be.

0:26:310:26:33

Could it be that BBC

documentary on manhole covers?

0:26:330:26:35

Perhaps it's a Gardeners World

special on allotments.

0:26:350:26:40

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It's coming up to midday here.

0:29:190:29:24

Big Ben is there. Dark clouds

behind. It's sunny here, though,

0:29:240:29:28

despite the best efforts of the

scaffolders to hide that beautiful

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face. Prime Minister's questions

will be with us in a few minutes.

0:29:310:29:37

What do you think is going to

happen, what areas do we believe

0:29:370:29:40

will be covered by the front bench

exchanges?

We will see. You would

0:29:400:29:44

imagine the Prime Minister might be

invited to take up where David Davis

0:29:440:29:48

left off, although Jeremy Corbyn as

herself seen in the past is a little

0:29:480:29:53

bit allergic to the subject of

Brexit, something to do one imagines

0:29:530:29:56

with divisions on the Labour

benches. We will see. It may be very

0:29:560:30:00

tempting. Why do I say that? David

Davis, the Secretary of State has

0:30:000:30:05

been giving evidence to MPs on a

Commons committee this morning. We

0:30:050:30:11

know David Davis, amiable chap

though he is is not the sort of guy

0:30:110:30:15

to duck a fight. Watching that

committee, I am sure you were

0:30:150:30:17

watching too, it looked at times

like the political equivalent of a

0:30:170:30:21

special forces training video.

He is

ex-special forces.

Might or might

0:30:210:30:28

not come in handy. We saw the

Secretary of State effectively

0:30:280:30:31

telling the House of Commons,

including some on his own side who

0:30:310:30:33

will not I think be happy with this,

telling them we could get to the

0:30:330:30:37

point at the Brexit negotiations

right to the midnight hour, the last

0:30:370:30:41

minute, and then the deal is done.

Problem with that is these MPs want

0:30:410:30:45

a vote for parliament on the deal

which would mean effectively

0:30:450:30:49

presenting parliament with a fait Au

Complete. There are scenarios if we

0:30:490:30:54

get to that. They all add up to one

or other constitutional crisis. Also

0:30:540:30:59

in the course of this interesting

interview session he spoke of the

0:30:590:31:02

negotiations to come and made it

clear in his view he was sticking

0:31:020:31:06

absolutely to the idea of concluding

all negotiations until the moment at

0:31:060:31:11

the moment of exit in March of 2019,

if not before, including trade.

So

0:31:110:31:17

his aim is to get a trade deal as

part of the overall deal.

The whole

0:31:170:31:22

thing done by that deadline. Even

though Michel Barnier has spoken

0:31:220:31:27

about three years to get that trade

deal done. Others in the field who

0:31:270:31:30

know something about it have spoken

about much longer periods. There was

0:31:300:31:35

David Davis ambition but the choice

on offer effectively was do the

0:31:350:31:37

whole deal by then, or we go away,

there is no deal, it's WTO. The

0:31:370:31:42

World Trade Organisation rules and

the threat in the background or

0:31:420:31:45

inducement was you don't want that

any more than we do. We will see.

0:31:450:31:49

You mentioned the midnight hour,

what a great programme that was.

0:31:490:31:51

Let's go over to the House of

Commons.

0:31:510:31:53

Mr Speaker... Mr Speaker. I'm sure

all members across the house will

0:32:020:32:09

wish to join me in wishing all of

the home nations teams the best of

0:32:090:32:13

luck in the rugby league World Cup

starting this week. This morning I

0:32:130:32:19

had meetings with ministerial

colleagues and others and in

0:32:190:32:21

addition to my duties in this House

I will further meetings today.

0:32:210:32:28

Social care services in England are

in crisis. Since 2010 the local

0:32:280:32:33

council in Manchester had its annual

social care budget cut by 32

0:32:330:32:38

million. By March the government

will have taken 6.3 billion out of

0:32:380:32:43

social care. Why won't the Prime

Minister match Labour's commitment

0:32:430:32:46

to invest 8 billion in social care

in the budget?

As I have said in

0:32:460:32:53

this House we recognise the pressure

on social care as we see an ageing

0:32:530:32:58

population. There are short-term and

medium term and long-term answers

0:32:580:33:05

and in the short-term we have made

extra funding available to local

0:33:050:33:09

authorities and the announcement

made in the budget was for an extra

0:33:090:33:15

£2 billion for local authorities and

in the medium term we need to ensure

0:33:150:33:21

best practice is observed in local

authorities and NHS trusts and in

0:33:210:33:26

some cases delayed discharges are

higher than others and in the

0:33:260:33:29

long-term we need a sustainable

footing for social care which is why

0:33:290:33:33

we will be publishing an open

consultation on ideas and proposals

0:33:330:33:40

to ensure we can have that system in

future.

The Prime Minister will be

0:33:400:33:48

aware of the roles supported housing

plays with many vulnerable people in

0:33:480:33:52

Torbay. What reassurance can she

give about the ongoing support the

0:33:520:33:56

government is giving to those vital

services?

He raises an important

0:33:560:34:01

issue and something we have looked

at closely. Since my right

0:34:010:34:06

honourable friend the first

Secretary of State commissioned work

0:34:060:34:09

on this when he was Work and

Pensions Secretary. I confirmed we

0:34:090:34:14

will publish our response to that

consultation on Tuesday, 31st of

0:34:140:34:18

October and it will look at a range

of issues, and we need to ensure

0:34:180:34:23

funding is right so all providers

are able to access it effectively

0:34:230:34:28

and we need to look at issues such

as the increase in service charges,

0:34:280:34:35

making sure we are looking at cost

control in the sector. As part of

0:34:350:34:40

our response to the review we will

not apply if the cap to supported

0:34:400:34:46

housing and we will not implement it

in the wider social rented sectors.

0:34:460:34:53

The details will be made available

when we publish our response.

0:34:530:34:57

Jeremy Corbyn.

0:34:570:35:07

Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, I joined the

Prime Minister in wishing the rugby

0:35:130:35:16

league team the best in the

competition and I hope they win it.

0:35:160:35:22

Last week, the house voted by 299-0

to pause the roll-out of Universal

0:35:220:35:31

Credit. Will the Prime Minister

respect the will of the house?

As I

0:35:310:35:43

have said we acknowledge that there

are concerns people have raised and

0:35:430:35:48

as we have been rolling it out we

have listened to those changes have

0:35:480:35:52

been made. Perhaps I could update

the house on where we are on the

0:35:520:35:57

roll-out of Universal Credit.

Currently, people claiming benefits,

0:35:570:36:03

8% are on Universal Credit and by

January next year it will rise to

0:36:030:36:07

10%. The roll-out is conducted in

three phases and the intention is it

0:36:070:36:12

will complete by 2022. It is being

done in a measured way and I am

0:36:120:36:18

pleased to say four out of five

people are satisfied or very

0:36:180:36:25

satisfied with the service they are

receiving. Universal Credit helps

0:36:250:36:35

people into the workplace and make

sure work pays and that's what the

0:36:350:36:41

system should do.

I would have

thought that if only 8% of the

0:36:410:36:46

roll-out has taken place, and 20% of

the people in receipt are

0:36:460:36:53

dissatisfied, that is the cause for

thought, maybe a pause in the

0:36:530:36:57

process. Last week only one

Conservative MP had the courage of

0:36:570:37:03

their convictions to vote with us on

suspending Universal Credit

0:37:030:37:07

roll-out. For... Then, Mr Speaker, a

Conservative member of the Welsh

0:37:070:37:16

Assembly, Angela Burns said, and I

quote, for the life of me I cannot

0:37:160:37:22

understand why a six week or four

week gap is deemed acceptable. She

0:37:220:37:28

called Universal Credit Kallis at

best and downright cruel at worst

0:37:280:37:33

and concluded by saying she is

ashamed of her government. Can the

0:37:330:37:38

Prime Minister ease her colleague's

shame by pausing and fixing

0:37:380:37:41

Universal Credit?

We have been

making changes to the implementation

0:37:410:37:50

as it has gone through the roll-out.

Let's be clear about why we

0:37:500:37:57

introduced Universal Credit. It is a

system...

Members are getting

0:37:570:38:03

overexcited. The question has been

put and the answer will be heard.

We

0:38:030:38:11

introduced Universal Credit is a

more straightforward system that

0:38:110:38:16

ensures the work pays and helps

people into the workplace. Let's

0:38:160:38:21

look at what happened in the system

under Labour. Under Labour the low

0:38:210:38:26

paid page tax and had it paid back

to them in benefits. Under Labour,

0:38:260:38:32

people were trapped on a life of

benefits for years. Under Labour,

0:38:320:38:39

the number of workless households

doubled. Labour's benefits system

0:38:390:38:47

cost households extra £3000 a year.

What the Conservatives have done is

0:38:470:38:55

give the low paid a pay rise, given

the work as a tax cut and ensure we

0:38:550:39:00

have the benefit system that helps

people into work.

Under Labour, 1

0:39:000:39:09

million children were lifted out of

poverty. Under Labour we introduced

0:39:090:39:17

the principle of the national

minimum wage, opposed by all Tories

0:39:170:39:21

over there. If the Prime Minister is

not prepared to listen to Angela

0:39:210:39:27

Burns, perhaps she could listen to

the architect of Universal Credit,

0:39:270:39:33

The Right Honourable member for

Chingford, who said one of the

0:39:330:39:36

reasons I resigned from the

government was I did not actually

0:39:360:39:40

agree with the additional waiting

days. This is something the

0:39:400:39:43

government needs to look at. Does

the Prime Minister agree with him?

0:39:430:39:50

This is not just the answer I have

given three or four times in this

0:39:500:39:57

PMQs but in previous PMQs. As we

look at Universal Credit roll-out we

0:39:570:40:02

look at the way in which we

introduce it. He talks about what

0:40:020:40:06

happened under Labour and I am happy

to talk about what happened under

0:40:060:40:09

Labour.

Order! Too much noise and

finger-pointing on both sides of the

0:40:090:40:22

chamber. The responses from the

Prime Minister will be heard as more

0:40:220:40:29

questions from the opposition and

every other member, without fear or

0:40:290:40:32

favour.

Under the Labour Party, The

right honourable gentleman is

0:40:320:40:38

talking about rolling out of a new

benefit system. Let's think about

0:40:380:40:42

what happened when the Labour Party

rushed to introduce tax credits. I

0:40:420:40:47

was not the only member of

Parliament who had people in my

0:40:470:40:52

constituency surgery who had filled

in the force properly, given their

0:40:520:40:56

information to the authorities, and

years later, the government came

0:40:560:41:00

back and landed them with bills for

thousands of pounds. That is what

0:41:000:41:06

happens when you rush into a system

rather than introducing it properly,

0:41:060:41:09

as we are.

I thought we had passed

the threshold last week when the

0:41:090:41:16

Prime Minister was going to answer

questions but we have not achieved

0:41:160:41:19

that yet. Labour introduced working

tax credits to help people on low

0:41:190:41:27

pay out of poverty and it made a

very big difference. The sad truth

0:41:270:41:34

is that Universal Credit is in such

a mess that councils are forced to

0:41:340:41:40

pick up the Bill. An example,

Croydon Council, which piloted the

0:41:400:41:45

scheme, is now spending £3 million

of its own budget to prevent tenants

0:41:450:41:51

from being evicted due to rent

arrears caused by Universal Credit.

0:41:510:41:55

Does the Prime Minister think it is

right or fair that hard-pressed

0:41:550:42:01

local authorities, having their

budget cut by central government and

0:42:010:42:04

having to dip in what little they

have got left to prevent people

0:42:040:42:08

being evicted when they know it is

the responsibility of this

0:42:080:42:13

government and its Universal Credit

system that is causing the problem.

0:42:130:42:18

Labour introduced working tax

credits and then called back

0:42:180:42:21

thousands of pounds from people

working hard. He raises the issue of

0:42:210:42:25

rent arrears. Members have concerns

over people managing budgets to pay

0:42:250:42:30

their rent. The majority, for the

majority, it is not an issue,

0:42:300:42:39

managing their budget and after four

months, the number of people on

0:42:390:42:44

Universal Credit in arrears has

fallen by one third. We recognise

0:42:440:42:51

the issue so we're working with

landlords and have built flexibility

0:42:510:42:58

into the system so landlords can be

paid directly. Nobody can be legally

0:42:580:43:04

evicted from social housing due to

short-term rent arrears. I think

0:43:040:43:08

that is an important point to get

across to people. I come back to the

0:43:080:43:14

essential point about Universal

Credit. It is about a welfare system

0:43:140:43:18

that helps people into work and

makes work pay and does not trap

0:43:180:43:23

people in benefits for years.

I note

the Prime Minister could not say

0:43:230:43:29

anything about people being evicted

from the private rental sector

0:43:290:43:35

because of Universal Credit

problems. The costs are driven by

0:43:350:43:38

low pay and high rents. In 2015 the

then Chancellor promised £9 and our

0:43:380:43:46

living wage. In the March budget who

was sneaked out the minimum wage

0:43:460:43:52

would only reach £8 75. The welfare

state was not created to subsidise

0:43:520:43:59

low-paying employers and

overcharging landlords. Will the

0:43:590:44:08

budget in November put the onus

back...

Order! I expect better of

0:44:080:44:16

you. You were better behaved when

you were at Oxford University. What

0:44:160:44:24

has happened to you, man?

Calm

yourself. My question is this, will

0:44:240:44:31

the budget in November put the onus

back on to employers to pay a decent

0:44:310:44:37

wage so that workers can make ends

meet?

Of course we want to ensure

0:44:370:44:45

there are higher paid jobs, that is

why we are investing in the economy

0:44:450:44:50

and why we are investing in

infrastructure and in schools for

0:44:500:44:55

young people and why we are

introducing a modern industrial

0:44:550:44:58

strategy. He says that he did... The

welfare system was not created to

0:44:580:45:04

subsidise employers paying low

wages. That is what Labour's working

0:45:040:45:09

tax credit system did!

0:45:090:45:17

The Government's own social mobility

commission reported that low pay was

0:45:170:45:22

endemic in the United Kingdom, one

in four workers permanently stuck in

0:45:220:45:26

low paid jobs. That's why Labour

backs a real living wage of £10 per

0:45:260:45:33

hour to make work pay. This

Government doesn't really know

0:45:330:45:38

whether it's coming or going. They

say... Mr Speaker, the Conservative

0:45:380:45:49

Party and the Government says they

have full confidence in universal

0:45:490:45:52

credit. But won't vote for it. They

say they will end the NHS pay cap

0:45:520:46:02

but won't allocate any money to pay

for it. The communities Secretary

0:46:020:46:08

backs £50 billion of borrowing on

housing, but the Chancellor says

0:46:080:46:13

it's not policy. The Brexit

Secretary says they're planning for

0:46:130:46:17

a no deal Brexit. The Chancellor

says they're not. Isn't the case, Mr

0:46:170:46:26

Speaker, this Government is weak,

incompetent, divided and unable to

0:46:260:46:32

take a decision...

Order, order!

Order. I said that the responses

0:46:320:46:39

from the Prime Minister would be

heard. And the remarks of the right

0:46:390:46:45

honourable gentleman will be heard.

You can try to shout him down and

0:46:450:46:49

other members can try to shout the

Prime Minister down. It won't work.

0:46:490:46:54

End of. Jeremy Corbyn.

Isn't it the

case that this Government is weak,

0:46:540:47:01

incompetent and divided and unable

to take the essential decisions

0:47:010:47:05

necessary for the good of the people

of this country?

Now, I will tell

0:47:050:47:13

the right honourable gentleman, of

course we want to see people earning

0:47:130:47:16

higher wages. Of course we want, as

we are doing, to be able to ensure

0:47:160:47:20

we can invest in our public

services. But the way to do that,

0:47:200:47:23

the way to have a higher standard of

living, to have higher wages, to

0:47:230:47:26

invest in our public services, to

have a better future for people in

0:47:260:47:31

this country, is to build and

continue to build that stronger

0:47:310:47:35

economy and you don't build a

stronger economy by losing control

0:47:350:47:39

of public finances. You don't build

a stronger economy by uncontrolled

0:47:390:47:43

borrowing. You don't build a

stronger economy by hitting people

0:47:430:47:47

with the highest taxes in our

peacetime history. You don't build a

0:47:470:47:52

stronger economy by voting against

progress in our Brexit negotiations.

0:47:520:48:02

And you don't... You don't build a

stronger economy by planning for

0:48:020:48:06

capital flight and a run on the

pound. That's what Labour would do

0:48:060:48:12

and we will never let it happen.

Thank you, MrSpeaker. Some people in

0:48:120:48:21

Plymouth are campaigning by way of a

petition to say that lifeboats must

0:48:210:48:27

be launched immediately a fishing

vessel is overdue, I believe this is

0:48:270:48:33

irresponsible and puts our valiant

lifeboat crews in peril if they

0:48:330:48:36

don't know where they're going. We

know this in Cornwall. Would the

0:48:360:48:40

Prime Minister look at making safety

grants available so that all fishing

0:48:400:48:44

boats can have an AIS locater beacon

on board, this cost well under £4

0:48:440:48:50

million, even if every registered

fishing vessel under 15 metres got a

0:48:500:48:55

full grant for covering the whole

cost, my late husband had one of

0:48:550:49:00

these aboard his boat.

Can I thank

my honourable friend for raising

0:49:000:49:03

this issue and as she has just said

I know this is an area where she

0:49:030:49:08

tragically has personal experience

and I would like to commend her for

0:49:080:49:12

the work she has done in this

important area and for championing

0:49:120:49:15

these causes. I think she is right,

launching a lifeboat whenever a

0:49:150:49:18

fishing vessel is overdue may be the

wrong decision, it could as she says

0:49:180:49:21

be dangerous for the crew involved,

that's why the coastguard do take

0:49:210:49:27

time to gather valuable information

before deciding how best to respond.

0:49:270:49:30

On the issue she has raised, there

are a number of grants available

0:49:300:49:34

from various safety schemes and I

would encourage all those involved

0:49:340:49:36

in fishing to make the most of those

grants that are available.

Thank

0:49:360:49:44

you, MrSpeaker. Does the Prime

Minister agree with me that

0:49:440:49:50

migration is key to delivering

sustainable economic growth?

What I

0:49:500:49:53

think is absolutely key is to ensure

that we have controlled migration in

0:49:530:49:57

this country, that's what the people

of this country want and that's what

0:49:570:50:02

this Government is delivering.

An

American couple moved to Scotland

0:50:020:50:11

and invested £400,000 to run an

award-winning guesthouse in

0:50:110:50:15

Inverness. They contribute to their

community in the local economy. Yet,

0:50:150:50:22

they will be deported because of a

retro spective change by how was

0:50:220:50:28

rules. Will the Prime Minister meet

with me to discuss this case and the

0:50:280:50:35

systemic problems with UK migration?

My right honourable friend, the Home

0:50:350:50:41

Secretary, is happy to meet with the

honourable friend in order to

0:50:410:50:45

discuss this specific case he has

raised. It's absolutely right is

0:50:450:50:48

that the Home Office does work to

ensure that the immigration rules

0:50:480:50:51

are being properly applied and that

action is being taken according to

0:50:510:50:54

those rules.

Now it is time to hear

MrSimon Hoare.

Thank you, I have

0:50:540:51:09

composed myself. I was greatly

cheered last week as I am sure many

0:51:090:51:13

colleagues were, the German

Chancellor say that a final deal

0:51:130:51:15

with regards to protection is going

to happen. Does my right honourable

0:51:150:51:19

friend agree with my assessment that

we are going to get a good deal,

0:51:190:51:23

that works for our country, for the

European Union and possibly more

0:51:230:51:28

importantly, for my conconstitute

yepts of North Dorset.

I do agree

0:51:280:51:34

with my honourable friend, I believe

that we are - our job is to get the

0:51:340:51:40

bes Brexit deal for Britain. I we

can. I believe it's a deal that will

0:51:400:51:43

benefit the United Kingdom, that

will benefit the United Kingdom

0:51:430:51:45

across all parts of the UK,

including his constituency. That we

0:51:450:51:50

maximise the benefits from leaving

the EU, while ensuring we maintain

0:51:500:51:55

the greatest possible access to EU

markets. That's what we are

0:51:550:51:58

continuing to work on, that's what

vision I set out in my Florence

0:51:580:52:01

speech, and the European Union as we

know are now preparing their

0:52:010:52:06

response to that.

The Prime Minister

has previously stated her commitment

0:52:060:52:13

to apprenticeships. However, in my

constituency the apprenticeship levy

0:52:130:52:17

has not been helping those for whom

it was designed. What steps will she

0:52:170:52:23

take to ensure apprenticeships help

those from lower income backgrounds?

0:52:230:52:29

Well, apprenticeships are important.

We have already in the Government

0:52:290:52:33

from 2010 to 2015, we saw two

million more apprenticeships

0:52:330:52:36

created.

0:52:360:52:41

The important point about

apprenticeships is that this is an

0:52:420:52:45

opportunity for young people, not to

feel they just have to be -

0:52:450:52:51

encouraged to go down an academic

route when that doesn't work for

0:52:510:52:53

them. When I meet apprentices they

say, many of them this is the best

0:52:530:52:58

thing they've done and we want to

make sure it's available for all

0:52:580:53:04

those who will benefit from it.

Can

the Prime Minister assure me that

0:53:040:53:15

the right road, school places, post

boxes and of course especially

0:53:150:53:21

healthcare provision will be in

place to support both my new

0:53:210:53:24

constituents and the up withes I

have got at the moment.

Well, can I

0:53:240:53:30

first of all congratulate my

honourable friend and say that I am

0:53:300:53:34

pleased that the district is doing

what we recognise we need to do to

0:53:340:53:38

build, to tackle dysfunctional

housing marringet, which is to build

0:53:380:53:41

more homes. She is right,

infrastructure is also an important

0:53:410:53:43

part of that. That's why we have

committed to £15 billion for road

0:53:430:53:49

investment strategy, over half a

trillion will be spent on the NHS in

0:53:490:53:52

England during this parliament. A

record £41 billion will be spent on

0:53:520:53:56

core funding for schools this year.

That I am pleased to say is the

0:53:560:54:01

record of Conservatives in

Government.

In 24 hours the people

0:54:010:54:08

of Dundee will wave off the bid for

the 2023 European capital of

0:54:080:54:13

culture. A fantastic bid which will

generate some 1500 jobs and add 5%

0:54:130:54:19

to local GDP. Can I ask the Prime

Minister, notwithstanding her

0:54:190:54:25

current difficulties with Europe, to

back this bid, given it comes from

0:54:250:54:30

the most innovative and forward

looking city in the whole of the UK.

0:54:300:54:38

Well, can I say to the honourable

friend that of course we are always

0:54:380:54:43

willing to back bids from any city

in the United Kingdom to become the

0:54:430:54:49

European City of Culture. But I

welcome the fact that Dundee has put

0:54:490:54:53

a bid forward. And is part of this.

As I say, we want to support all

0:54:530:54:57

cities in the United Kingdom who are

doing it.

It is a criminal offence

0:54:570:55:04

for those like teachers in a

position of trust to have a sexual

0:55:040:55:10

relationship with those young people

under 18. But a constituent came to

0:55:100:55:14

me recently distressed about exactly

such a relationship between his

0:55:140:55:17

17-year-old daughter and a middle

aged driving instructor. Now while

0:55:170:55:22

if consensual it's not illegal, I am

concerned that there might be risks

0:55:220:55:27

to young drivers being groomed by a

predatory instructor. Does my right

0:55:270:55:31

honourable friend agree that driving

instructors are by the nature of

0:55:310:55:35

their work in a position of trust,

should be covered by the same rules

0:55:350:55:38

as teachers and if so would she ask

the relevant Minister to work with

0:55:380:55:44

me on this?

I am concerned to hear

the case of of his constituent

0:55:440:55:52

raised and I recognise the position

and the role that driving

0:55:520:55:55

instructors play. Can I say to my

honourable friend I think it's

0:55:550:55:58

something that I will ask the

appropriate department to look at

0:55:580:56:00

and to get in touch with him to get

further details of this case.

In

0:56:000:56:08

March 2019 the Prime Minister told

this house that parliament would be

0:56:080:56:11

given a meaningful vote on the tems

of the Article 50 withdrawal bill.

0:56:110:56:17

This morning, in the Brexit Select

Committee the Secretary of State

0:56:170:56:20

told us that vote may not take place

until after March 2019. Can the

0:56:200:56:25

Prime Minister please explain how

it's possible to have a meaningsful

0:56:250:56:29

vote on something that's already

taken place?

As the honourable

0:56:290:56:35

friend knows we are in negotiations

with the European Union but I am

0:56:350:56:38

confident that we will - the

timetable under the Lisbon Treaty

0:56:380:56:42

does give time until March 2019 for

negotiations to take place. But I am

0:56:420:56:46

confident, because it is in the

interests of both sides, it's not

0:56:460:56:48

just this parliament that wants to

have a vote on that deal, but

0:56:480:56:51

actually there will be ratification

by other parliaments that we will be

0:56:510:56:55

able to achieve that agreement and

that negotiation in time for this

0:56:550:56:59

parliament to have the vote that we

committed.

We enter a week of

0:56:590:57:07

commemorations around the centenary

of the balance Ford declaration.

0:57:070:57:11

Would the Prime Minister rededicate

us to the pursuit of peace and

0:57:110:57:15

justice for both the Israelis and

the Palestinians, but celebrate with

0:57:150:57:20

pride our small national

contribution to the creation of a

0:57:200:57:24

democracy in the Middle East, a

sanctuary for those who suffered

0:57:240:57:29

from anti-Semitism and fear its rise

again and in the state of Israel a

0:57:290:57:34

true friend of the United Kingdom.

Well, can I first of all say to my

0:57:340:57:39

honourable friend that we are proud

of the role that we played in the

0:57:390:57:42

creation of the state of Israel and

we will certainly mark the centenary

0:57:420:57:47

with pride. I am also pleased at the

good trade relations and other

0:57:470:57:51

relationships that we have with

Israel and that we have are building

0:57:510:57:55

on and enhancing. We also must be

conscious of the sensitivitying some

0:57:550:58:00

people do have about the declaration

and we recognise that there is more

0:58:000:58:03

work to be done. We remain committed

to the two-state solution in

0:58:030:58:09

relation to Israel and the

Palestinians. That is an important

0:58:090:58:13

aim. I think it's important that we

all recommit to ensuring that we can

0:58:130:58:18

provide security, stability and

justice for both Israelis and

0:58:180:58:23

Palestinians through such a lasting

peace.

Trying to get a decision on

0:58:230:58:31

the Swansea tidal lagoon is becoming

like Groundhog Day. Can I ask the

0:58:310:58:38

Prime Minister when she will be

ready?

I say to the honourable lady

0:58:380:58:42

as she knows this raises a number of

complex issues, we are grateful for

0:58:420:58:46

the review that was conducted and

the relevant department is still -

0:58:460:58:50

the business department is

considering this and we will respond

0:58:500:58:54

in due course.

Does the Prime

Minister agree that as we leave the

0:58:540:59:01

EU and take control of our land

management policy our manifesto

0:59:010:59:05

commitment to planned 11 million

trees is a critical part of a

0:59:050:59:10

holistic countryside management

framework which we can now build to

0:59:100:59:13

ensure long-term home grown wood for

our housing industry alongside

0:59:130:59:18

increasing our natural carbon

capture potential and reducing flood

0:59:180:59:21

risks.

Well, my honourable friend is

absolutely right, we did commit in

0:59:210:59:26

our manifesto to plant 11 million

trees. We are putting that at the

0:59:260:59:28

heart of our work to protect the

environment for future generations.

0:59:280:59:32

I am pleased to say that since April

2015 we have planted just over two

0:59:320:59:36

million trees. But we do have much

more to do and we will be continuing

0:59:360:59:40

to work with landowners and

stakeholders on this particular

0:59:400:59:43

issue. But it is also about the role

that trees play in reducing flood

0:59:430:59:54

risks and helping to hold carbon

dioxide.

0:59:541:00:01

The banister has spoken on mental

health.

Can I thank her for that?

1:00:011:00:07

When she was Home Secretary she

outlawed police cells used for those

1:00:071:00:11

in mental health crisis but today

parts of the system are in crisis.

1:00:111:00:17

In my constituency, children, young

people and families, weighted two

1:00:171:00:22

years for autism assessments. The

Secretary of State agrees it is not

1:00:221:00:30

acceptable. Can I ask the Prime

Minister if she will turn her

1:00:301:00:35

well-intentioned statements into

action?

We are taking a number of

1:00:351:00:38

courses of action and he has raised

the issue of the autism diagnosis

1:00:381:00:43

and the length of time it takes. I

know my right honourable friend the

1:00:431:00:49

Health Secretary has looked into

this and will do so because we are

1:00:491:00:52

clear we want to insure adults and

children should not have to face too

1:00:521:00:56

long for period of diagnosis to take

place. The Department of Health is

1:00:561:01:01

working with partners to address

these issues. And the clinical

1:01:011:01:13

guidance sets out assessment should

begin within three months of

1:01:131:01:16

referral. It is within the

Department of Health to work in

1:01:161:01:20

those areas to make sure it is

possible to achieve.

Tomorrow at

1:01:201:01:27

Cornwall airport the bloodhound will

carry out its first test run in the

1:01:271:01:30

next step on its quest to achieve

the land speed record. Will the

1:01:301:01:35

Prime Minister join me in wishing

the team, especially the driver Andy

1:01:351:01:40

Greene a successful test run and

does she agreed these projects show

1:01:401:01:44

the UK continues to lead the world

in innovation in science and

1:01:441:01:50

engineering?

I am very happy to join

him in wishing the team well and I

1:01:501:01:56

have met some of the members of the

team. I agree with the point he

1:01:561:02:01

makes that this continues to show

what a world leader in science and

1:02:011:02:06

innovation UK ears. We have some of

the best universities with four in

1:02:061:02:11

the world top ten and more Nobel

prizewinners than any country

1:02:111:02:16

outside of the United States. I am

sure we will all be proud of the

1:02:161:02:21

Bloodhound team.

Does the Prime

Minister agree that as a result of

1:02:211:02:31

the potential downgrading of

Huddersfield Royal Infirmary, 479

1:02:311:02:36

professionals lost, over 300

hospital beds cut and a 90 minute

1:02:361:02:42

journey to the nearest A&E are not

in the best interests of

1:02:421:02:45

constituents? And will she meets to

discuss the detrimental impact this

1:02:451:02:50

will have on the area?

The principle

we want to base their decisions on

1:02:501:02:58

is service changes should be based

on clear evidence and led by

1:02:581:03:04

clinicians who best understand what

the local needs are. I understand

1:03:041:03:09

that councils have referred the

changes to the Health Secretary and

1:03:091:03:12

I know he will consider those issues

carefully and come to a decision in

1:03:121:03:16

due course.

Next year sees the

centenary of the first woman member

1:03:161:03:25

of Parliament. Would my right

honourable friend tell us what

1:03:251:03:29

leadership and encouragement to the

women and girls in his constituency

1:03:291:03:33

to take part in public life is a

member for Sheffield Herm has shown

1:03:331:03:38

in his remarks?

Can I say --

Sheffield Hallam. It is important we

1:03:381:03:48

mark the centenary and recognise the

role women have played in this House

1:03:481:03:53

and in public life. I want to see

young women and women able to see

1:03:531:03:59

this House is the place they want to

come to, they want to contribute to

1:03:591:04:04

their society, want to respond to

needs of local constituents and make

1:04:041:04:08

a difference to people'slives. That

is what I am in it for and why I

1:04:081:04:14

encouraged women to come into this

House and I'm pleased to say we have

1:04:141:04:17

more women on our benches ever

before. Finally, all of us in this

1:04:171:04:28

House should have due care and

attention to the way in which we

1:04:281:04:32

refer to other people. And should

show women in public life the

1:04:321:04:38

respect they deserve.

Yesterday the

Scottish Parliament voted by 91-28

1:04:381:04:52

to ban fracking in Scotland. Could I

ask why the Prime Minister would not

1:04:521:04:58

consider following Scotland's lead

and introducing a moratorium on the

1:04:581:05:02

rest of the UK in order that there

can be an evaluation of the health

1:05:021:05:08

and environmental consequences of

this controversial technology and in

1:05:081:05:11

order of the public can be

consulted?

This is an issue on which

1:05:111:05:19

he and I will disagree because I

think shale gas has the potential to

1:05:191:05:24

power economic growth and it will

support thousands of jobs in the oil

1:05:241:05:28

and gas industry and other sectors

and it will provide a new domestic

1:05:281:05:32

energy source. We have more than 50

years of drilling experience and one

1:05:321:05:38

of the best records for economic

development while protecting the

1:05:381:05:41

environment. Shell wealth funds will

provide additional resources and

1:05:411:05:50

local councils will be able to

retain hundred per cent collected

1:05:501:05:56

from shale gas developments. We will

bring in further proposals but this

1:05:561:06:00

is a potential new source of energy

and it is right we use this and take

1:06:001:06:07

the benefits for the economy and

people'sfutures.

I'm sure the Prime

1:06:071:06:15

Minister is aware of the terrifying

incident on Sunday where a gunman

1:06:151:06:19

held hostages at a bowling alley in

my neighbouring constituency

1:06:191:06:24

Nuneaton, a facility enjoyed by my

constituents. Will she join me in

1:06:241:06:31

praising the excellent work in

Warwickshire Police and West

1:06:311:06:36

Midlands ambulance did in ensuring

the situation was brought to a swift

1:06:361:06:40

conclusion without casualties?

Can I

say of course we were concerned to

1:06:401:06:46

hear of the incident and I am happy

to join him and the honourable

1:06:461:06:52

member for Nuneaton in commending

the professionalism and bravery of

1:06:521:06:55

Warwickshire Police in bringing this

to a swift conclusion and to the

1:06:551:07:00

Ambulance Service in ensuring there

were no injuries. The emergency

1:07:001:07:05

services do an amazing job and this

is the sort of incident when they do

1:07:051:07:09

not know whether this is the sort of

thing they will have to be called to

1:07:091:07:12

and I was pleased to welcome

emergency services personnel to a

1:07:121:07:17

reception in Downing Street on

Monday, and what they all say and

1:07:171:07:22

always say is they were just doing

their job but my goodness me, what a

1:07:221:07:26

job they do.

On the 29th of March, I

asked the Prime Minister if she

1:07:261:07:34

would help the people of new ferry

after the huge explosion that

1:07:341:07:38

devastated the town centre. She said

she was happy to help and they would

1:07:381:07:42

be support offered to the community.

Two weeks later she called a general

1:07:421:07:47

election and her government seems to

have forgotten about the people in

1:07:471:07:52

new ferry. While she may have

forgotten, my constituents have not.

1:07:521:07:57

I ask again, precisely when will

Heard government put their hands in

1:07:571:08:01

their pockets so the people in new

ferry can rebuild their town and

1:08:011:08:06

lives?

The government has not

forgotten about the issue and I

1:08:061:08:11

understand that we are waiting for

the local council to produce

1:08:111:08:15

proposals and a business case and we

will look at those seriously.

In

1:08:151:08:22

acknowledging the hard work of the

men and women at RAF Benson in my

1:08:221:08:26

constituency for the work they did

in the Caribbean, will she

1:08:261:08:31

acknowledged the Puma to helicopter

was ready and available for work in

1:08:311:08:35

the Caribbean within a couple of

hours of having arrived?

I am very

1:08:351:08:40

happy to commend the work of those

at RAF Benson and those in the

1:08:401:08:46

military and volunteers who provided

support after the devastating

1:08:461:08:51

hurricanes that took place and I am

also happy to agree with him that

1:08:511:08:55

contrary to some stories put about,

we were there, on time, and able to

1:08:551:09:04

act quickly in getting people

support.

We can all agree no one

1:09:041:09:10

should ever be persecuted on account

of their sexuality. Last week at the

1:09:101:09:16

Pink News awards, the Prime Minister

said we had come a long way on LGBT

1:09:161:09:21

rights that there is more to do. Can

I ask to start that work today by

1:09:211:09:28

promising that never again will the

Home Office deport LGBT asylum

1:09:281:09:34

seekers to countries where they are

unlikely to be persecuted with the

1:09:341:09:39

instruction that they pretend to be

straight?

Can I say to the

1:09:391:09:45

honourable lady this is an issue

that we take seriously. I think I'm

1:09:451:09:51

right in saying the Conservative

government changed the rules on

1:09:511:09:54

asylum seeking to introduce the

category of those who could face

1:09:541:09:58

persecution in their home of origin

because of their sexuality. I am

1:09:581:10:03

pleased that was done and I am sure

the Home Office treats all cases

1:10:031:10:08

with a sensitivity that is

appropriate.

As of 2016, 17% of the

1:10:081:10:18

premises in Scotland were without

superfast broadband compared to 11%

1:10:181:10:23

for the UK as a whole. Will she join

me in calling on the Scottish

1:10:231:10:29

Government to do more and

constructively engage with

1:10:291:10:34

departments in Westminster to

deliver this crucial service in

1:10:341:10:37

communities in Scotland?

Can I

say...

Can I say? Order! All sorts

1:10:371:10:51

of curious hand and finger gestures

are being deployed, each trying to

1:10:511:10:56

outdo the other in terms of

eccentricity but I am interested in

1:10:561:11:01

hearing the Prime Minister's reply.

Can I say that we all recognise the

1:11:011:11:07

importance of broadband and fast

broadband being available to people

1:11:071:11:12

but he is right, the members of the

Scottish Nationalist party come to

1:11:121:11:17

Westminster. They spend a lot of

time talking about Powell is for the

1:11:171:11:27

Scottish Government. It is time the

Scottish Government got on with

1:11:271:11:30

using its powers for the benefit of

people in Scotland.

Mr Speaker, in

1:11:301:11:39

the past fortnight we have heard the

announcement of the loss of many

1:11:391:11:42

hundreds of jobs in Lancashire at

BAE Systems sites which is a hammer

1:11:421:11:49

blow to workers and families. Today

I want to raise a proposed closure

1:11:491:11:55

impressed and that will mean the

loss of another 180 jobs. We keep

1:11:551:12:00

hearing the hype about the Northern

Powerhouse. Why are aerospace and

1:12:001:12:06

trade manufacturers in the North

shedding jobs by hundreds?

I

1:12:061:12:11

recognise this is a worrying time

for workers involved. Obviously, we

1:12:111:12:17

will ensure through the Department

for Work and Pensions they have

1:12:171:12:20

support to look for new jobs which

includes the rapid response service

1:12:201:12:25

which gives particular support to

people in these areas. In relation

1:12:251:12:30

to the decision by BAE Systems, I

assure the house we will continue to

1:12:301:12:37

promote this industry and I hope all

Labour members will continue to

1:12:371:12:41

promote the defence industry. I am

glad that last month we signed a

1:12:411:12:52

statement of intent with Qatar and

last year the Ministry of Defence

1:12:521:12:56

spent £3.7 billion with Bae and are

working with them to maximise export

1:12:561:13:03

opportunities for Typhoons in Hawks

to retain jobs in the UK.

When it

1:13:031:13:11

comes to tackling homelessness,

prevention is better than cure, so I

1:13:111:13:15

am delighted the government backed

my Homelessness Reduction Act. One

1:13:151:13:19

of the obstacles to people is

putting together a deposit for rent

1:13:191:13:26

and help with the rent. Will my

right honourable friend look at a

1:13:261:13:30

scheme that will provide 32,000

people a year the opportunity to

1:13:301:13:35

rent for an investment of £3.1

million per year, and not only that,

1:13:351:13:40

to save the public purse up to £1.8

billion over a three-year period?

I

1:13:401:13:48

thank him for the issue he has

campaigned on, the issue of

1:13:481:13:53

homelessness and preventing

homelessness and I am pleased we

1:13:531:13:56

supported his Homelessness Reduction

Act and I think that will be an

1:13:561:14:00

important contribution. I understand

on the specific issue he has raised,

1:14:001:14:05

he has made a representation to the

Chancellor and I am sure he will

1:14:051:14:11

look at that representation

carefully. On the general issue of

1:14:111:14:14

helping people to buy and helping

with deposits, I'm pleased to

1:14:141:14:19

announce the extra £10 million of

the to buy scheme, which makes a to

1:14:191:14:24

people to get into homes.

The

workforce, the unions and management

1:14:241:14:34

at Bombardier in Belfast deserve

credit for the way they responded to

1:14:341:14:37

the threats coming from the United

States and Boeing, which is a threat

1:14:371:14:43

to their jobs. Can the Prime

Minister given assurance she will

1:14:431:14:49

continue building on the good work

that has happened through herself

1:14:491:14:54

the Secretary of State for business

and also the Northern Ireland

1:14:541:14:57

Secretary and work with the unions

and management to ensure the threat

1:14:571:15:01

of tariffs is removed. The C series

is a success story and thousands of

1:15:011:15:07

jobs in Belfast are protected and

across the United Kingdom, as well?

1:15:071:15:12

I am very happy to give that

commitment. A lot of work has been

1:15:121:15:17

done in relation to this by myself

and by the Business Secretary and

1:15:171:15:21

Chancellor and other ministers with

their opposite numbers in America

1:15:211:15:26

and Canada. We will continue to do

that work. Most recent announcement

1:15:261:15:32

made in relation to Airbus and the C

series is important, but we want to

1:15:321:15:38

ensure those jobs stay in Northern

Ireland because we recognise the

1:15:381:15:41

importance of the jobs for the

economy of Northern Ireland and for

1:15:411:15:45

the people and their families.

Order.

1:15:451:15:47

Jeremy Corbyn went on universal

credit. He probably thinks he is

1:15:531:16:02

scratching -- scratching at a

bruise. We have some figures. Only

1:16:021:16:09

8% of those in receipt of benefits

are now being covered by the

1:16:091:16:14

rollout. 10% by January and won't

finish until 2022. The Prime

1:16:141:16:20

Minister claimed four out of five

subject to this rollout are

1:16:201:16:23

satisfied. Jeremy Corbyn pointed out

that meant 20% were not happy with

1:16:231:16:29

what happened and caused problems

getting into rent arrears and so on.

1:16:291:16:33

Then a walk down memory lane on

Labour's welfare policies versus

1:16:331:16:37

Tory welfare policies. Going all the

way back to Labour's introduction of

1:16:371:16:41

tax credits. Jeremy Corbyn finished

on the problem of low pay and rising

1:16:411:16:49

rents and problems with universal

credit being paid in time, of which

1:16:491:16:54

there have been a number of cases.

Interestingly, earlier on, the Prime

1:16:541:16:59

Minister made an important

announcement, particularly for those

1:16:591:17:03

in the private rented sector, if you

are on low pay in the private

1:17:031:17:07

represented sector you qualify for

what is called local housing

1:17:071:17:12

allowance. MrOsbourne when he was

Chancellor had frozen that allowance

1:17:121:17:17

and as inflation is getting higher

that becomes a cut in real terms.

1:17:171:17:20

Although we haven't got all the

details it would seem that freeze on

1:17:201:17:28

LHA, which goes to the poorer of the

1. 5 million private renters, then

1:17:281:17:35

that freeze is now over. It could be

worth several hundred pounds, I

1:17:351:17:40

understand. We will get more details

of that as the day goes on. It was -

1:17:401:17:45

the announcement was rather hidden.

I think the Prime Minister may also

1:17:451:17:48

referred they were going to look at

the social housing element of this,

1:17:481:17:51

as well. You have been following

this, haven't you?

Yes, I think she

1:17:511:17:54

just said they would be looking at

the cap on the local housing

1:17:541:17:57

allowance...

Which was the freeze.

Indeed. There has been changes that

1:17:571:18:01

have meant that much wider areas are

covered. For example, for a high

1:18:011:18:06

cost we are assessed as having the

same cost as the whole of

1:18:061:18:09

Oxfordshire. I think she was talking

about social rented sector. If it

1:18:091:18:13

was...

Not the private side?

I think

that would have a very big impact,

1:18:131:18:19

just covering councils, I hope this

will be adequate funded because a

1:18:191:18:23

lot of them are already very

stretched but I suppose we need to

1:18:231:18:26

see the detail.

There are 4. 5

million people who now rent

1:18:261:18:31

privately, households, not people.

It's a big increase, twice what it

1:18:311:18:35

was in the year 2000. Partly because

people can't afford their own homes

1:18:351:18:40

any more. 1. 5 million of these

people are on the poorer end of the

1:18:401:18:46

income scale, they depend on this

LHA to be able to pay their rent. It

1:18:461:18:51

would be a case for doing something

about them too if they're not

1:18:511:18:54

covered.

As you rightly say, people

in social housing are all covered by

1:18:541:18:58

that now. You make a good point

about the rising rents in the

1:18:581:19:03

private sector. I think that we will

hear more details today about a

1:19:031:19:09

separate proposal to use at least a

third of the savings that we managed

1:19:091:19:15

to make from the freeze that has

come to an end.

The freeze has come

1:19:151:19:19

to an end?

I believe so.

For private

as well as social?

No, for social -

1:19:191:19:27

we have made savings and we are

going to make a third of those

1:19:271:19:33

savings available to areas in the

country where private rents are even

1:19:331:19:37

higher than the average. So that we

are doing something to help people

1:19:371:19:40

who are renting in the private

sector.

Well, you will be aware,

1:19:401:19:46

according to the ONS that the

problem, because the demand for

1:19:461:19:50

private rent has been growing so

much and this applies not so much,

1:19:501:19:55

people on low incomes find it hard

to meet the rent rises, particularly

1:19:551:20:00

if they have problems with universal

credit and so on, according to the

1:20:001:20:07

ONS the ending of private sectors

tenancies is the single biggest

1:20:071:20:12

cause of statutory homelessness in

England. These are people made

1:20:121:20:16

homeless because they - the rent has

gone up in the private sector and

1:20:161:20:20

they can't afford the rent rise.

That would seem to be rather serious

1:20:201:20:26

social problem.

I quite agree, I

think it is a serious problem that's

1:20:261:20:30

why we are trying to address it at

the higher end of rent increases in

1:20:301:20:35

areas where they are significantly

above the average. There will be

1:20:351:20:39

money made available to assist

people.

Briefly

If I may that's

1:20:391:20:44

short-term, we need to deal with

precious in the first place, if you

1:20:441:20:47

are taking money from a previous

cost savings that's going to run out

1:20:471:20:50

quickly. We need to have a long-term

solution and Labour set out some

1:20:501:20:54

ways.

One of the ways is to build

more houses.

When are you going to

1:20:541:20:59

do that?

The Prime Minister is going

to take charge of this area of

1:20:591:21:04

policy, she has the former housing

Minister...

We know all that.

We

1:21:041:21:08

will see progress.

We will keep an

eye on whether there is that

1:21:081:21:12

progress, we have heard it before. I

want to talk about Brexit. Before we

1:21:121:21:17

do, more on this story about whether

parliament would get a vote on the

1:21:171:21:22

final Brexit deal before we leave in

March 2019.

1:21:221:21:28

The Brexit Secretary this

morning suggested that,

1:21:281:21:29

if negotiations went up to the wire,

that any Parliamentary vote

1:21:291:21:32

might not happen till

AFTER we leave in 2019.

1:21:321:21:34

Number Ten has issued

a clarification saying,

1:21:341:21:36

"the Government's intention

and expectation is to get a deal

1:21:361:21:38

in good time for the vote to happen

before we leave in March 2019.

1:21:381:21:44

David Davis was asking

a hypothetical question."

1:21:441:21:53

I thought that was my job! He

answered a hypothetical question.

1:21:531:21:58

Let's speak now to Nicky Morgan,

former Education Secretary and now

1:21:581:22:01

Chairman of the Treasury

Select Committee.

1:22:011:22:05

What do you make of the idea that if

negotiations went down to the wire

1:22:051:22:12

in March parliament wouldn't get a

vote until after Article 50 had

1:22:121:22:15

already been triggered or done?

It

would be completely pointless to

1:22:151:22:19

have a vote at that stage, it's

clearly unacceptable. The Prime

1:22:191:22:23

Minister's been very clear and she

just made it clear again in Prime

1:22:231:22:26

Minister's questions she's expecting

there will be a deal and a good

1:22:261:22:29

deal, and also parliament, the UK

parliament, will have time to vote

1:22:291:22:33

on it. As will the European

Parliaments and that's always been

1:22:331:22:37

understood, the EU parliament and

other parliaments around Europe will

1:22:371:22:40

want to have their say. So, it would

be completely wrong and go against

1:22:401:22:44

all that ministers have said that we

wouldn't get a vote.

Right. But what

1:22:441:22:48

if it does go down to the wire? What

if it goes to the last week of

1:22:481:22:53

March, it's not unprecedented in the

way Europe's done its business, I

1:22:531:22:58

have been at European summits where

they stopped the clock at one stage

1:22:581:23:01

they were running so far, what if

that happens and then by the end of

1:23:011:23:06

March we are out, a deal may have

been done for the final minute, but

1:23:061:23:09

you don't get to vote and after it's

a done deal. ?

Well, I have also

1:23:091:23:16

been at EU summits as a Minister and

you are right often negotiations do

1:23:161:23:20

go down to the wire. The danger of

answering hypothetical questions as

1:23:201:23:24

David Davis said this morning is

that you end up in hotter water. But

1:23:241:23:29

of course there is a procedure for

the 27 to mutually agree to extend

1:23:291:23:34

obviously the Article 50 deadline

for a period of time, I suppose what

1:23:341:23:39

could happen is if everyone was

clear a final deal was there, but

1:23:391:23:42

there wasn't enough time to have the

votes, then there will be time

1:23:421:23:46

extended to be able to do that. I

cannot see the Europeans, the EU

1:23:461:23:51

member states, the parliament, not

having a final say and the whole

1:23:511:23:55

point about Brexit is to take back

control, that control has to come

1:23:551:23:59

back to the Sovereign parliament,

they have to have a final meaningful

1:23:591:24:03

vote.

But you will know as well as

I, because you will have poured over

1:24:031:24:08

Article 50, for an extension for

that period to be given all 27 of

1:24:081:24:13

the other members have to agree. It

would only take one, Czech Republic,

1:24:131:24:18

maybe in a bad mood, Austria, is in

a bad mood at the moment, just one

1:24:181:24:26

and you can't extend it.

Well, you

are right. It has to be absolutely

1:24:261:24:30

unanimous. I think to be honest the

EU parliament and the member states

1:24:301:24:34

have made clear they want to have a

say. The danger of all of this issue

1:24:341:24:38

about Brexit is we are all busy

dealing in what ifs and what might

1:24:381:24:42

happen, the Prime Minister was right

when she said I am working on the

1:24:421:24:46

basis and you talked about

clarification put out by Number 10,

1:24:461:24:49

they're working on the basis there

will be a good deal and time for

1:24:491:24:53

parliaments here and in Europe to

have their say. I think that's the

1:24:531:24:56

basis on which we have to proceed.

That's why MPs like me, MPs like

1:24:561:25:02

Dominic Grieve put down an amendment

to say there has to be a final

1:25:021:25:08

meaningful vote. It's not yet in

legislation. That's why the

1:25:081:25:11

amendment to the withdrawal bill

which we are told we are going to

1:25:111:25:15

discuss from mid-November onwards is

so important to secure.

Thank you

1:25:151:25:18

for rushing out of the chamber to

join us. So, John, clear as mud!

1:25:181:25:30

Pretty much, yeah. The Prime

Minister fell back on the argument

1:25:301:25:35

that she imagines that the Brexit

talks will be done and dusted with

1:25:351:25:39

time to spare, months to spare. Time

to come back to Westminster and no

1:25:391:25:43

doubt as she would hope get a clear

nod from parliament, good on you, go

1:25:431:25:48

and finish and sign. That looks like

an optimistic reading of the way

1:25:481:25:52

this may well pan out. We have seen

Brexiteers around the Tory Party and

1:25:521:25:59

beyond arguing that if the EU gress

to demands and allows frictionless

1:25:591:26:03

trade now after Brexit we can do

that deal in a moment.

Because you

1:26:031:26:09

are coming off free trade to

something less.

And then carry on

1:26:091:26:14

because that's what we all want.

Problem is it's not what everyone

1:26:141:26:16

wants. If you listen to Donald Tusk,

the President of the Council of

1:26:161:26:22

Ministers, he says, Europe has to

win and win was pretty much his

1:26:221:26:26

word. Arguing that for these

negotiations to succeed, you have to

1:26:261:26:29

be worse off outside the European

Union than at least you were in.

1:26:291:26:33

That means if nothing else,

difficult negotiations ahead. Not

1:26:331:26:41

arguably months to spare. Are they

going to force the Government to

1:26:411:26:46

guarantee this sort of final say?

You are shaking your head.

Well, I

1:26:461:26:51

don't shaur your pessimistic view

about the likelihood of achieving a

1:26:511:26:57

good trade deal, of course, the

European Union are not going to let

1:26:571:27:02

us leave without what in their view

is a status which isn't the same and

1:27:021:27:06

isn't as good, but in our view if we

can get control of our borders and

1:27:061:27:12

end free movement that is a big

bonus which our electorate decided

1:27:121:27:15

upon last year. If we can get, with

- don't forget we are leaving with

1:27:151:27:20

regulatory equivalents on

everything, so that we should be

1:27:201:27:22

able to be in a position to have a

good trade deal.

That would require

1:27:221:27:27

the goodwill of the Commission. I

suppose it's reasonable as Nicky

1:27:271:27:31

Morgan said, if the deal is done on

the 11th hour of the 11th day sort

1:27:311:27:35

of thing, the last minute t would be

reasonable for the other 27 to say,

1:27:351:27:40

all right, we will, for the

ratification period, we will do

1:27:401:27:43

another three months or four months.

Well, I think it would be but what I

1:27:431:27:46

am concerned about is the Government

is presenting these negotiations as

1:27:461:27:50

if they're some poker game where

there is just effectively Theresa

1:27:501:27:55

May in the room with perhaps others,

it's more complex and we have been

1:27:551:27:59

saying for a long time the

Government should be much clearer

1:27:591:28:02

that we need to commit to pushing

for this transition period now, get

1:28:021:28:08

that organised, once we have done

that... Again I mentioned this

1:28:081:28:10

earlier, that Theresa May seems to

be now saying we can't decide on it

1:28:101:28:13

until we have all the details.

We

can't decide because we have run out

1:28:131:28:17

of time. And I am still confused.

Let's put you out of your misery and

1:28:171:28:22

give you the answer to Guess The

Year. It was...

1:28:221:28:28

1951. Now, we will find out who has

won. Don't hold back!

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Black and white pictures there. The

1 o'clock news is starting on BBC

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One. Jo will be here tomorrow at

afternoon with another Daily

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Politics. Bye.

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Business minister Margot James and shadow treasury minister Anneliese Dodds keep Andrew Neil company throughout the programme. As well as full coverage of Prime Minister's Questions they look at the implications of the newly released GDP figures for the economy.


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