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Morning, folks.

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Welcome to the Daily Politics.

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Is it right that Downing

Street investigate you?

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Damian Green is the latest

Tory MP to be accused

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of inappropriate conduct.

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Theresa May has ordered

an investigation into allegations

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that he made inappropriate advances

to a female Tory activist.

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Mr Green has described

the claims as "absolutely

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and completely untrue".

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As discussion about an unhealthy

culture of abuse by powerful men

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in British politics continues

to swirl around Westminster,

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we ask what should be done.

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On Brexit, Labour is mounting

a fresh challenge today to force

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a vote to require the Government

to hand over the 58 secret studies

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that have been carried out

about the economic impact of Brexit.

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What do they say?

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And we have full coverage of today's

big Parliamentary clash.

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Prime Minister's Questions will be

live and uninterrupted from midday.

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All that in the next 90 minutes,

and with me for the duration

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are the Shadow Chief Secretary

to the Treasury, Peter Dowd,

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and the Minister of State

for Climate Change and Industry,

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Claire Perry.

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Welcome to you both.

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Now, this morning, there are more

allegations of sexual harassment

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and assault in Westminster.

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Yesterday, Downing Street said

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon

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would not be investigated

by the Cabinet Office.

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In 2002, he had put his

hand on the journalist

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Julia Hartley-Brewer's knee

during a party conference dinner.

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She said she did not regard

the incident as

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"anything but mildly amusing".

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And a list, thought to have

been compiled by staff

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and researchers at Westminster,

detailing a range of mostly unproven

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allegations about 40

Conservative MPs and ministers,

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has been published on social media.

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But most serious of all is the claim

by a young Labour activist

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that she was raped by a senior

Labour figure in 2011.

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Emma has the latest details.

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Damian Green, the First Secretary

of State, and effectively

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Theresa May's deputy,

is facing an investigation

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after allegations that he made

inappropriate advances

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to a female activist.

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Kate Maltby has written

in the Times that, in 2015,

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during a drink, they discussed

affairs in Westminster

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and he said his own wife

was "very understanding".

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She then describes

"a fleeting hand against my knee -

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so brief it was almost deniable".

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She claims she avoided Damian Green

but he later sent her a "suggestive

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text" after she was pictured

in the Times wearing a corset

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for a piece she'd written.

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Damian Green has responded, saying:

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"This untrue allegation has

come as a complete shock

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and is deeply hurtful,

especially from someone

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I considered a personal friend."

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Theresa May has now ordered

an investigation into the incident.

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The Cabinet Secretary,

Sir Jeremy Heywood, has been asked

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to "establish the facts and report

back as soon as possible".

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As he left his house this morning,

Damian Green briefly

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spoke to journalists.

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REPORTER:

Is your behaviour

appropriate, Damian Green?

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Is it right that Downing

Street investigate you?

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All the allegations

are completely false.

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Thank you very much.

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Do you regret your

behaviour, Mr Green?

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But the Conservatives aren't

the only party facing allegations.

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Labour has launched an independent

inquiry after party activist

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Bex Bailey said she was raped

at a Labour event in 2011

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and discouraged by a party

official from reporting it.

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Bex Bailey is a former

member of the party's

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National Executive Committee

and said her attacker was not an MP,

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but someone more senior

than her in the party.

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Labour has said it

takes the allegations

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"extremely seriously".

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Here's Bex Bailey speaking

to Carolyn Quinn on PM yesterday.

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I was seriously sexually assaulted

at a Labour Party event by...

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It wasn't an MP but someone

who was more senior.

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To me, I told a senior

member of staff.

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It was suggested to me

that I not report it.

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I was told that if I did

it might damage me.

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I wasn't given good advice.

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I wasn't given a procedure

when I asked for it so that

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I could see what would happen

if I did report it and

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then make a decision.

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It seemed to me that there

wasn't one that existed.

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So there is a lot coming together

here, and it's important to an

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packet. On the one hand, what might

be regarded as inappropriate

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behaviour, but maybe no more than

that, then sexual harassment and may

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be repeated sexual harassment making

it more serious and, from Bex

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Bailey, a claim, an allegation of

outright rape, which is one of the

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most serious criminal offences in

the criminal code. Claire Perry,

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Damian Green is being investigated

by the cabinet secretary. How does

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he go about that?

Well, any unwanted

sexual behaviour is completely

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unacceptable in any workplace,

whether it is a party environment or

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parliament, and I think it's

absolutely right that the specific

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allegations that are made are dealt

with quickly and clearly, and I

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can't comment on Damian Green's

case, and we heard him saying it

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isn't true.

I was talking about the

process, really. Kate Maltby has

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made the accusation, and Mr green is

reputed absolutely, in his words.

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Where does the cabinet secretary yaw

is the cabinet secretary the

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appropriate person to do this? Where

does he go?

We are bound the

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ministerial code, but clearly, as

has been the case in the past in

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Westminster, if their criminal

allegations being made...

These are

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not criminal allegations. There are

other cases which would involve it,

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but this one is not.

I think it's

right that ministers are

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investigated by the cabinet

secretary.

But he is effectively the

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Deputy Prime Minister. He chairs 13

cabinet subcommittees and he sees

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Jeremy Heywood, the cabinet

secretary, every day. Is it right

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that he should be investigating?

That is the great division between

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the ministers and the government. I

think it is right to go through

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procedure...

But is this the right

procedure? Nine Cabinet

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subcommittees, it is.

In parliament,

which we don't have, we need a

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cross-party independent system where

anybody with any allegation about

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anybody working in Parliament, not

just ministers and MPs, feels they

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can safely raise their concerns, and

we don't have that and, frankly, if

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we want to make holiday place where

people want to work, we need a bit

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Damian Green's accuser is not in

Parliament, she is a journalist and

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an academic, and I wonder if this is

the correct procedure. For there was

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a figure known as the Cabinet

Office's propriety and ethics

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director general, a senior, in this

case, female civil servant. She

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doesn't meet Mr Green everyday.

Wouldn't that be a more appropriate

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independent assessment of what is

happening?

I can't comment on where

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the cabinet secretary wants to take

it. From the Prime Minister's

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initial reaction, the fact she has

made it very clear that there is no

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room for any of this behaviour in

politics, the fact she was there for

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the big statement by the leader of

the house... We are determined to

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make sure Parliament and MPs both

uphold the law and demonstrate codes

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of conduct and behaviour that are

irreproachable.

As I think you will

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realise, that should go without

saying. But if, and I am putting it

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in capital letters, if what Kate

Maltby is saying is true, and that

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is established, does Mr Green have

to resign?

Damian has strenuously

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denied these allegations.

Absolutely.

So there is a point

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where you can't comment on cases,

drug

but did what he is accused of

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doing... Is that serious enough if

true to be a cause of a resignation?

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I think we are an dangerous

territory. For too long, women who

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have brought forward allegations of

abuse have been told they are not

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serious enough to warrant

investigation, and we have heard

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shocking things cross-party on what

has and hasn't been done. We need a

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culture where people feel, if they

feel there has been wrongdoing, feel

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comfortable coming forward.

But

people will only come forward if

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they know there are consequences,

and what I'm trying to establish is

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whether line is. Andrea Leadsom, the

leader of the house, made the line

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quite low, low a criminal charge.

She said it was if it made people

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feel uncomfortable what I'm trying

to establish is the kind of

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behaviour that Mr Green is accused

of, is that the kind of behaviour

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which should cost you your job if

it's true?

Will have to let the

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cabinet secretary disciple if you'll

forgive me, there are some very

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serious allegations being made about

party officials and MPs, and it is

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absolutely right that we investigate

those for the... So why is there no

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investigation into Michael Fallon?

Because somebody is determined,

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perhaps based on the reaction of the

lady who made this point, that this

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wasn't a level of comfort. But I

don't think we should sit in a

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television studio and try to opine

on what people feel that somebody

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may or may not want...

I'm not

asking for an opinion, in that

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sense. I'm asking what the

guidelines should be, in terms of

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what is inappropriate enough to cost

you your job.

We don't have

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guidelines now, and that's the

problem.

Is it more serious than

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what Michael Fallon or Damian Green

have been accused of? That is what

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has happened to this young Labour

activist. Her name is Bex Bailey.

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This is not a case of inappropriate

behaviour or harassment. This, she

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claims, is rape. And yet, when she

went to the Labour Party, not only

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did she get no help, she was

basically told to shut up about it.

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It's shocking, I don't think there

is any other word for what happened

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to that poor woman, and it's

shocking. And the fact that the

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person didn't look into it, didn't

investigate it, is itself shocking,

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and that's why we've set up an

independent investigation.

But it's

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worse because, not only did she get

nowhere individually, and she got

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onto the NEC, your party's ruling

council, she, without mentioning her

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circumstances or experience, she

attempted to get mechanisms in place

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which would make it possible to

handle these claims, to give them a

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proper airing, and for justice to be

done, and she got nowhere.

That's

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right, and that is the point I was

making.

And that was years ago.

It

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was shocking, and what we have done

is to set up an imprint desperately

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to set up an interesting -- to set

up an independent investigation.

Why

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didn't the NEC act?

They should have

acted it is dreadful.

By 2017, it

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took break to put into place proper

procedures. National Grid took a

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break.

Procedures were set in place

early on in 2015 to look into

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allegations like this. I don't deny

it. I think it's important that we

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set up in regards to this one, an

independent investigation as to

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happened at that particular point,

and Don Buchler, -- dawn Buchler,

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our women and equality 's shadow

minister, a set of a walking party

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to look at -- a working party to

look at this.

I would suggest that

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the Conservative and Labour parties

and Westminster as a place of work,

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none of you has the proper

procedures in place, particularly

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for women who find themselves,

whether it is more at the moderate

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end of the scale or act the most

serious end, they feel they have

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almost nowhere to go, and the places

they do have to go do not do them

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justice. They are effectively given

career advice to shut up.

Ever since

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I came into politics, I've been told

it's different in Westminster, we

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have traditions and weird sitting

hours, that's how it is. To attract

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and retain the best people in

politics, we have to clean up our

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act. And I think it's really

important that we do this on a

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cross-party basis. I think the Prime

Minister is right foot

I think,

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whatever it takes to get this

culture right, to get the

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investigation process right, so

people feel like they've had a

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proper hearing...

You'd do it

together?

The speaker has

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indicated...

What about this list of

40 Tory politicians. We are not

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naming these people. Known way of

verifying them. -- there is no way.

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If there are specific named

allegations against individuals, as

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the Prime Minister said, they will

be investigated, but I also think

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that their names on that list where

there are strong denials by the MPs

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involved, and again we shouldn't be

relying on lists sold to media

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outlets in order to publicise

inappropriate behaviour. We have to

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have, I think, a cross-party system

in the House of Lords as well, that

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means that anybody who has a concern

can bring it forward in a Safeway

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and know that it's going to be taken

seriously. Is the case now. -- in a

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safe way.

We shall see in

Westminster I think this is going to

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come at Prime Minister's Questions.

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Yesterday, Brexit Secretary

David Davis gave evidence

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to a House of Lords committee

on the EU negotiations.

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In it, he conceded

that the withdrawal deal

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will likely favour the EU,

but he believed future

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trading relations would be

more equally beneficial.

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It comes as the Government confirmed

it is recruiting up to 8,000 more

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staff over the next year

in preparation for

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the UK's departure.

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This is what David Davis had to say.

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The withdrawal agreement on balance

would probably favour the union

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in terms of the things

like money and so on.

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Whereas the future relationship

will favour both sides and will be

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important to both of us and,

of course, in Article 50,

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as you know, it says

taking into account

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the ongoing relationship.

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Well, it seems to us

you can't take something

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into account until it exists.

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So we see them as inseparable.

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This afternoon, Labour will seek

to up the pressure on ministers

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over their refusal to release

a series of Brexit impact studies.

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On Monday, the Government confirmed

it has prepared 58 reports looking

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at different sectors of the economy,

ranging from aerospace and aviation

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to tourism and legal services.

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But it is resisting calls

to publish them, saying

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to do so would undermine

the UK's negotiating position.

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Labour will today use

what it calls an "ancient,

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but still effective" Parliamentary

tool, called a "humble address",

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to force the Government's hand.

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We shall see what happens. Why

shouldn't these 58 studies be put

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into the public domain?

They have a

material impact on the outcome of

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the negotiations as we move to

negotiations about what is the right

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trade deal. And I think one of the

things we have seen is the

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Government is actually have been far

more transparent than we thought

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they might be at the start of this

process. We wanted lots of

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Parliamentary scrutiny and we have

had that but I think it's absolutely

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right, I imagine the EU is doing

this, if we are assessing the impact

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of certain outcomes on different

trade sectors, I think we should be

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keeping that quiet until we progress

in those negotiations. The EU is not

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publishing its assessment either.

Is

the British Government that we're

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talking about, if we don't see the

studies, how can we judge if you get

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a good deal or not?

That will be put

to the test.

One of the things... It

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won't be if we can't see the

studies.

We've had a clear steer

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from David Davis that Parliament

ought to have a final vote on the

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shape of the deal.

But what I'm

saying is how do we judge the

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content of the deal if we haven't

seen the impact studies on these 58

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industrial sectors?

We will see the

outcome of the deal and what the

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various trade-offs might be and I

think where we are going is the

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closest possible relationship with

the EU, so we can maintain these

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benefits of cross-border flows,

which has a big influence on some

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sectors more than others.

We won't

know that if you don't publish the

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assessment. Wide do you want to see

them?

It's crucial to see what they

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say and for transparency. It's

important we know what these

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assessments say because if they have

an impact on tourism, which affects

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my city region, Liverpool,

significantly, it's important that

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we see them for that there's an

issue of transparency, about

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openness, and the point Claire makes

about with had lots of discussions

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on this, the reality is Parliament

at the moment RA zombie Parliament.

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On zero hours.

You might be, Peter,

I'm not!

We are trying to drag every

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single piece of information out of

the Government.

Have you seen any

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impact assessment?

All departments

have been asked to put them

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together.

Have you seen them?

No. My

teams have been involved in putting

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them together. Can I just make the

point...

Hold on, you as a

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Government minister in charge of

climate change and what's the other

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one? Energy. Very important to this

country's future. And you have not

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seen the impact assessment?

I've

been closely involved with a

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negotiation team that what we want

to actually...

But you have not seen

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the impact assessment on energy

Brexit could have?

I don't believe

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there is one prepared for energy.

They managed 58 but not one for

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energy?

Andrew, can we move on?

No,

this is outstanding. The Government

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has prepared 50 at impact

assessments yet, on energy, which is

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a huge part of our economy, both the

generation and distribution and

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import of it by the French

connector, and Norwegian gas, one

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has not been prepared?

I had a

conversation yesterday with a French

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Minister about the impact of

interconnection. The impact

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assessments will be a series of

technical -based analysis based on

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different outcomes and if I can just

say, both in our constituencies

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voted to leave, Peter. Brutal voted

out. 54%.

Let's not go there.

We

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have to negotiate and get on with

this.

That's why he wants to see the

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impact assessment.

If Peter's party

for one second could come up with a

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stable view of what they want to

come up with Brexit, I know your job

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is to oppose everything, but this is

serious national conversation where

0:21:090:21:12

we should do a bit more working

together.

For a national

0:21:120:21:16

conversation to be informed, you

have to have the data but you're not

0:21:160:21:20

prepared to publish it. Let me ask

you this. Do you think it'll be

0:21:200:21:25

worth the paper it's written on?

It's difficult to make a judgment

0:21:250:21:28

until you have seen it.

Had ever

seen an impact assessment which

0:21:280:21:32

turned out to be true?

It's

important to get indications and you

0:21:320:21:36

can tease out...

That's part of the

negotiation, Peter.

For example,

0:21:360:21:43

Brexit is not an event. It is a

process, a lead up to coming out,

0:21:430:21:48

but it is important to that, during

the process, we have as much

0:21:480:21:52

information as we can about

everything related to this from

0:21:520:21:55

energy right the way through to

environment. It's very important.

0:21:550:22:01

What is wrong with asking for those

getting that information?

Our people

0:22:010:22:06

have been looking through his impact

assessments because we know some of

0:22:060:22:09

the areas that there is one on gas

and another on fossil fuels. The

0:22:090:22:16

last time I looked, that's energy.

And you haven't seen it and you're

0:22:160:22:23

the energy minister?

Richard

Harrington is the energy Minister. I

0:22:230:22:31

have climate change and industry.

The point is... That's why we are

0:22:310:22:35

leading the world in fossil fuels.

How do you know if you've not seen

0:22:350:22:39

the impact assessment on fossil

fuels?

I can look at what we have

0:22:390:22:43

done historically and what we plan

to do and I can also tell you the

0:22:430:22:47

day-to-day conversations we have

with ministerial colleagues where we

0:22:470:22:51

are completely involved in setting

up the various negotiations on these

0:22:510:22:54

things are live and valid.

Do you

want me to put a word in for you to

0:22:540:22:59

see if I can get you to see these

papers?

I can see them without your

0:22:590:23:05

help, but thank you.

A brilliant

column in the Financial Times,

0:23:050:23:10

there's lies, dam lies and economic

impact assessments. You could be

0:23:100:23:15

chasing something here, transparency

I understand, but...

It may or may

0:23:150:23:22

not be the key to this, so why are

the Government wanting to keep them

0:23:220:23:26

under wraps? That is the question.

The more you try to keep things

0:23:260:23:30

under wraps, the more people...

The

Minister has not even seen them. Are

0:23:300:23:36

you voting this afternoon on this?

Of course. I am there every day.

Are

0:23:360:23:43

you going to vote against this?

I

shall look at it on the motions. Of

0:23:430:23:48

course I'm going to vote, I always

vote.

0:23:480:23:54

Have you ever found yourself

stumbling across something

0:23:540:23:56

on the internet that has completely

ruined your evening?

0:23:560:23:58

No, I'm not talking about some

dubious list of Tory MPs

0:23:580:24:01

and their predilections.

0:24:010:24:03

I'm talking Twitter,

I'm talking GBBO.

0:24:030:24:05

Yes, the Great British Bake Off.

0:24:050:24:08

Yes, Prue Leith, I'm talking to you,

Twitter's twit of the day.

0:24:080:24:14

How could you preempt the nation's

most important contest this year -

0:24:140:24:17

apart from the Conservative

leadership - by letting the cat out

0:24:170:24:20

of the bag over who won

Bake Off on Twitter?

0:24:200:24:28

I know you are in Bhutan,

six hours ahead, and didn't realise

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the time difference.

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And I know you feel more guilty

than a black forest gateau.

0:24:330:24:43

Very 1970s here!

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Very 1970s here!

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So why don't you console yourself

with a nice cup of Bhutanese tea -

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or po cha cha suma,

as they say in Thimpu -

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the drink that cheers.

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It's coming up to midday here -

just take a look at Big Ben -

0:26:580:27:07

Almost covered entirely in

scaffolding now.

0:27:070:27:09

Yes, Prime Minister's

Questions is on its way.

0:27:090:27:11

And that's not all -

Laura Kuenssberg is here.

0:27:110:27:15

All the stories swirling around

Westminster ranging from

0:27:150:27:18

inappropriate behaviour to sexual

harassment to rape. Hard for PMQs to

0:27:180:27:25

avoid that, I would've thought.

I

would be surprised if they avoid

0:27:250:27:29

this issue not just because it is

what a is talking about in

0:27:290:27:33

Westminster but also it's something

extremely important and, as days go

0:27:330:27:37

by, I do think we have entered a new

phase in all of this. From time to

0:27:370:27:40

time, stories like this have bubbled

up but there has always been a real

0:27:400:27:45

reticence among some of the victims

of this kind of behaviour, who work

0:27:450:27:49

across the road, to come forward,

and I do think, potentially,

0:27:490:27:54

particularly after yesterday and Bex

Bailey, I think we are seeing a

0:27:540:28:00

change in this celebrated apart is

not just nervous that what's going

0:28:000:28:03

to corrupt in their own party when

the rock is lifted up, but they also

0:28:030:28:09

are concerned to get this right.

Actually to try to make this a

0:28:090:28:13

moment and make the Parliament 2017

a parliament which created a change

0:28:130:28:16

and I suspect by the end of the day

we will see more proposal from the

0:28:160:28:19

Labour Party by tightening up their

procedures again.

The key word there

0:28:190:28:25

for me is 2017. It's only 2017 that

we are now getting around to this.

0:28:250:28:32

The understandable reluctance of

women in particular to come forward

0:28:320:28:34

and you can understand what happened

from Bex Bailey's experience, but

0:28:340:28:39

the consequence of that is it

allowed Westminster and the

0:28:390:28:41

political parties and Government not

to do too much about it, not to put

0:28:410:28:48

procedures in place.

Yes, I think

that has been part of the... There's

0:28:480:28:54

been lots of issues here, but one of

the problems has been when people

0:28:540:28:58

don't speak up firstly it's very

hard for the political parties to

0:28:580:29:02

know what they're dealing with. If

it's not open and discussed, then

0:29:020:29:05

it's been very difficult to tell

what the true scale of this kind of

0:29:050:29:11

thing is. Everyone has heard these

allegations from time to time. But

0:29:110:29:15

until people were willing to put

things on record it's very hard to

0:29:150:29:20

know genuinely how widespread an

issue this is. And we have also seen

0:29:200:29:24

this as an issue for young men and

for young women, when these issues

0:29:240:29:28

have bubbled up before, there are

people who feel when they've tried

0:29:280:29:32

to speak out and they have been

penalised. Sometimes they have

0:29:320:29:35

slinked away from Westminster and

part of the issue here is loyalty is

0:29:350:29:40

whether currencies around here.

That's not just the whips hanging

0:29:400:29:44

onto awkward information to get

people to vote the way they want to,

0:29:440:29:49

but because Westminster attract

ambitious people who want to come

0:29:490:29:52

here quite often want to change the

world and they want to make a

0:29:520:29:55

difference so do people want to

start their career being pointed to

0:29:550:30:00

as some kind of troublemaker? With

some kind of way that they will be

0:30:000:30:04

attacked themselves and since Bex

Bailey came forward yesterday, I

0:30:040:30:09

talk to people who have been

affected by these issues who told me

0:30:090:30:12

this was in their mind, they felt

they would not be believed and they

0:30:120:30:16

feared they would be damaged in

terms of their own futures if they

0:30:160:30:22

spoke up. The other thing which is a

structural issue is MPs employ their

0:30:220:30:27

staff directly. We're not talking

about a traditional business is how

0:30:270:30:30

do you complain about the bass to

the boss? There's no big HR

0:30:300:30:35

department. There's no real

structure. When these things are

0:30:350:30:38

bubbled up over the years,

Parliament has never quite grasped

0:30:380:30:42

that and there have been various

proposals. Should the expenses

0:30:420:30:46

regulate to be the ones in charge of

it? There were ideas David Cameron

0:30:460:30:51

considered a 1922 committee not keen

on having some kind of corporate

0:30:510:30:55

Hellas employing a couple of

thousand researchers -- beer

0:30:550:31:01

but this is not just an issue in

Parliament. This is an issue in the

0:31:040:31:08

culture of Parliament. And politics

and other industries. But there is

0:31:080:31:15

something different here because

Westminster works on power and

0:31:150:31:19

loyalty is one of the things which

boils the wheels and when people

0:31:190:31:24

really, really care about their

party, they have sometimes been

0:31:240:31:28

persuaded to hold things back for

the greater good.

Which is what Bex

0:31:280:31:32

Bailey appears to have done. It is

interesting the way things work,

0:31:320:31:37

Laura, if this is a watershed

year...

And it may not be.

If it is,

0:31:370:31:44

how society works now cut it takes

the scandal surrounding a Hollywood

0:31:440:31:48

mogul to result in a potential major

change in Westminster.

That is quite

0:31:480:31:55

something. I would also say that

certainly I have been in Westminster

0:31:550:32:02

for nearly 20 years now and most

people would concur the atmosphere

0:32:020:32:07

is less secretive, less full of

awful things going on in dark

0:32:070:32:12

corners. It has improved if you want

to use that word. But are there

0:32:120:32:17

things that people have carried

around with them for a long time

0:32:170:32:20

that they feel they have not been

able to share, yes, absolutely

0:32:200:32:23

estimate

0:32:230:32:23

the whips office in both parties,

having date on someone but not using

0:32:260:32:33

it to bring justice, keeping it...

When I was a Government whip in

0:32:330:32:40

2013, that is not true, actually

there were attempts made in 2013 to

0:32:400:32:45

set up a cross-party independent...

We will come back to that because we

0:32:450:32:50

got to go straight

0:32:500:32:51

I know that members across the house

will have been appalled by last

0:32:570:33:01

night's cowardly terrorist attack in

New York. Our thoughts are with all

0:33:010:33:05

of those affected and we stand

united with the people of New York.

0:33:050:33:10

Members on both sides have been

deeply concerned about allegations

0:33:100:33:14

of harassment and mistreatment in

Westminster. This demands a

0:33:140:33:17

response, and that is why the leader

of the house has been meeting with

0:33:170:33:21

her counterparts, and we are hopeful

all sides can work together quickly

0:33:210:33:24

to resolve this, and I have written

to all party leaders inviting them

0:33:240:33:28

to a meeting early next week so we

can discuss a common, transparent,

0:33:280:33:33

independent grievance procedure for

all of those who work in Parliament.

0:33:330:33:36

We have a duty to ensure that

everybody coming here to contribute

0:33:360:33:40

to public life is treated with

respect. This morning I had meetings

0:33:400:33:44

with ministerial colleagues and

others. In addition to my duties in

0:33:440:33:48

the house, I will have further such

meetings later.

Is the Prime

0:33:480:33:53

Minister where there have been some

very powerful research that's been

0:33:530:33:56

done on the question of high speed

rail? What it says is that, in the

0:33:560:34:03

leafy suburbs of the south, the

first 140 miles, 30% of it has been

0:34:030:34:08

dedicated to tunnelling to avoid

knocking down houses. Yet, in the

0:34:080:34:14

north, we are now told that the

percentage is only 2% for the whole

0:34:140:34:21

of the north. Why? Because HS2 says

it's too costly, so knock the houses

0:34:210:34:31

down. Will she arranged for a

meeting with people from my area in

0:34:310:34:34

order to avoid another 30 houses

being knocked down in Newton, part

0:34:340:34:42

of Bolsover? And isn't it high time

that this government stopped

0:34:420:34:46

treating our people like

second-class citizens?

I say to the

0:34:460:34:56

honourable gentleman that I'm sure

the Department for Transport will be

0:34:560:34:59

happy to look into the question that

he has raised but, of course, HS2,

0:34:590:35:06

the reason why we are doing HS2 is

it is important to increase the

0:35:060:35:13

capacity of the railway lines going

through to the north. This will be a

0:35:130:35:17

very important contribution to the

UK economy. And I can assure him, if

0:35:170:35:21

he looks at everything this

government has done, with the

0:35:210:35:24

Northern Powerhouse, the Midlands

engine... Be significant investment

0:35:240:35:36

in infrastructure across all parts

of the country, this is a government

0:35:360:35:41

that wants to ensure this is a

country that works for everyone.

I

0:35:410:35:45

want to join the Prime Minister and

add my thoughts are with New

0:35:450:35:52

Yorkers. The shocking scenes in New

York will have brought back awful

0:35:520:35:56

memories of terrorist attacks there

and, as we degrade and destroyed

0:35:560:36:01

Daesh, at its base, it will exploit

its death cult ideology. Will my

0:36:010:36:06

honourable friend urged our

international partners to join with

0:36:060:36:10

us in delivering the recent UN

resolution to investigate and

0:36:100:36:13

prosecute Daesh terrorists so we can

hold them to account for their vile

0:36:130:36:18

part?

My honourable friend raises an

important point, and it's important

0:36:180:36:21

that we ensure we have a complete

response to this issue of the threat

0:36:210:36:27

of terrorism. That involves dealing

with the problem at source. It must

0:36:270:36:32

also involve dealing with terrorism

wherever it occurs. But our message

0:36:320:36:35

is clear, that our values will

prevail, that the terrorists will

0:36:350:36:39

not win. As we do this, we need to

ensure that we work with

0:36:390:36:42

international partners. We want to

try and make sure that there is in

0:36:420:36:48

Syria Iran, that we develop -- Syria

and Iraq. That we develop safe

0:36:480:36:57

spaces as they re-emerge from this

terrorist threat, that has been on

0:36:570:37:00

their street but also affected

people across the world. Crucially,

0:37:000:37:03

and we have done a lot of work in

this, in helping those in situ to be

0:37:030:37:08

able to gain evidence that can be

used to ensure that anybody who is

0:37:080:37:14

involved in the horrors of attacks

that we see, that anybody involved

0:37:140:37:18

in those attacks can actually be

brought to justice.

On the question

0:37:180:37:28

of the sex harassment allegations

that the Prime Minister quite

0:37:280:37:31

rightly referred to, to put on the

record, I am happy to meet with the

0:37:310:37:34

Prime Minister and all party leaders

to discuss this. We need better

0:37:340:37:38

protections for all in this house.

This house must involve workplace

0:37:380:37:42

trade unions in that, but it is also

incumbent on all parties to have

0:37:420:37:46

robust procedures in place to

protect and support victims of

0:37:460:37:51

sexual abuse and harassment. I join

with the Prime Minister in sending

0:37:510:37:57

our solidarity with the people of

New York and then mayor, Bill de

0:37:570:38:01

Blasio, for the appalling terrorist

attack yesterday. I hope the whole

0:38:010:38:05

house will join me in paying tribute

to two former Labour can -- two

0:38:050:38:10

former Labour colleagues, who passed

away this week, candy Atherton, the

0:38:100:38:14

member for Falmouth and Campbell,

and Frank Doran, the member for

0:38:140:38:18

Aberdeen North, who both did

enormous good work at opposite ends

0:38:180:38:20

of the UK to represent their

communities and constituencies would

0:38:200:38:25

they will be missed by all of us,

especially in the Labour Party, who

0:38:250:38:28

they served so well for their entire

lives. In 2010, the Labour

0:38:280:38:34

government intervened through HMRC

to shut down an Isle of Man scheme

0:38:340:38:42

used to import yachts into the EU

and thus to avoid tax. A similar

0:38:420:38:48

scheme has recently been exposed

relating to the import of business

0:38:480:38:50

jets into the Isle of Man. So can

the Prime Minister assure the house

0:38:500:38:56

that HMRC investigates these new

allegations diligently?

The right

0:38:560:39:03

honourable gentleman has made a

number of references in his

0:39:030:39:08

question, and I will address all of

them. On the first point, it is

0:39:080:39:12

absolutely essential, and he is

right, that we have processes, that

0:39:120:39:16

political parties have processes to

deal with allegations of misconduct,

0:39:160:39:21

but also that, obviously, we have

the ministerial code and proper

0:39:210:39:25

investigations take place against

that, where that is appropriate, but

0:39:250:39:29

I believe it is also crucial for

everybody working in this

0:39:290:39:33

Parliament, be they working for a

Member of Parliament, for the house

0:39:330:39:37

authorities or a journalist working

in this Parliament, that there are

0:39:370:39:40

proper processes in this Parliament

for people to be able to report

0:39:400:39:46

misconduct and for that to be dealt

with, and I think that is very

0:39:460:39:50

important, and I'm grateful for him

saying he will meet with me, and I

0:39:500:39:55

hope other party leaders... I see

the leader of the SNP is nodding his

0:39:550:39:59

head. To look at this particular

issue. Can I also join him in paying

0:39:590:40:03

tribute to both Frank Duran -- Frank

Doran and Candy Atherton. Frank

0:40:030:40:11

Doran was first elected in 1987,

serving two separate terms as the MP

0:40:110:40:15

for Aberdeen, chairing the

administration committee for five

0:40:150:40:18

years and he was a tireless

campaigner for safety in the oil and

0:40:180:40:22

gas industry, and I'm sure everybody

will recall his commitment in this

0:40:220:40:25

house and join me in offering

condolences to his family and

0:40:250:40:30

friends, and Candy Atherton, first

elected in 1997, when I was first

0:40:300:40:33

elected, and she served for eight

years as an MP, but she was a strong

0:40:330:40:38

campaigner for women's rights and

disability issues and continued to

0:40:380:40:42

champion those causes on Cornwall

council after leaving this house,

0:40:420:40:45

and I'm sure that members across

this house will join me in offering

0:40:450:40:48

my condolences to her family and

friends. The right honourable

0:40:480:40:52

gentleman talks about tax avoidance,

and I can assure him that, where

0:40:520:40:56

cases are referred to HMRC in

relation to tax avoidance, they take

0:40:560:41:00

those seriously and look into those

measures seriously. We have taken

0:41:000:41:02

action collectively as a government

over the last few years, since 2010,

0:41:020:41:09

when he first came in, and we have

secured over £150 million of

0:41:090:41:16

compliance revenues since 2010 from

a number of measures we have taken

0:41:160:41:19

to ensure that we clamp down on tax

evasion and avoidance.

957 business

0:41:190:41:26

jets in the Isle of Man seems a bit

excessive for any island anywhere,

0:41:260:41:31

and I hope it is investigated and

you tax is investigated from those

0:41:310:41:38

people trying to avoid it. -- the

tax that is due. Allegations of the

0:41:380:41:47

scale of tax docking -- tax dodging

involved range up to 119 billion,

0:41:470:41:51

the size of the NHS budget. The Isle

of Man VAT avoidance allegations are

0:41:510:41:55

part of a wider link from the

Bermuda -based law firm said the a

0:41:550:42:03

similar scale the Panama Papers.

Will the Prime Minister commit the

0:42:030:42:07

HMRC to fully investigate all

evidence of UK tax avoidance and

0:42:070:42:16

evasion from this league, and

prosecute where feasible?

I had

0:42:160:42:22

given the right honourable gentleman

and assurance in my first answer

0:42:220:42:26

that HMRC does take these issues

very seriously, does investigate and

0:42:260:42:31

thus take action and, where

appropriate, tax loopholes are

0:42:310:42:33

closed. What is important is that,

if we look at the record we have,

0:42:330:42:41

and I mentioned the 160 billion in

additional compliance revenues since

0:42:410:42:45

2010, we have announced or intimated

over 75 measures since 2010 to

0:42:450:42:48

tackle tax avoidance and evasion.

The right honourable gentleman

0:42:480:42:52

referred to one that was done by

Labour. We have been continuing to

0:42:520:42:58

act on this particular issue, so we

will be raising billions of pounds

0:42:580:43:01

more as a result. But I reassured

him... I think most people would

0:43:010:43:05

recognise that HMRC actually does

rather want to collect tax. That its

0:43:050:43:12

job, and it does look to make sure

it can do so as much as possible.

0:43:120:43:16

Well, it's rather strange then that

Britain reportedly has blocked a

0:43:160:43:24

French led proposal which would have

placed Bermuda on the European Union

0:43:240:43:29

tax haven blacklist. Perhaps the

Prime Minister could explain why

0:43:290:43:32

that would be the case? The Panama

Papers exposed many wealthy

0:43:320:43:36

individuals and big businesses who

avoided tax through offshore trusts.

0:43:360:43:39

Labour backs any necessary changes

to toughen our laws against

0:43:390:43:45

aggressive tax avoidance of just

yesterday, Mr Speaker, we tried to

0:43:450:43:52

strengthen legislation on beneficial

ownership of trusts, with amendments

0:43:520:43:57

we placed to the finance bill why

did the government vote against

0:43:570:44:00

them?

Can I say to the right

honourable gentleman that he raises

0:44:000:44:10

the issue of British Overseas

Territories. In fact, this

0:44:100:44:13

government has taken action in

relation to those British Overseas

0:44:130:44:19

Territories, action that was not

taken by the previous Labour

0:44:190:44:21

government. So, if he says to me

that this whole question of tax

0:44:210:44:28

evasion is something that needs to

be constantly looked at, and

0:44:280:44:32

government needs to be prepared to

act, my answer is, yes, we are and

0:44:320:44:36

we will.

There is a strange kind of

pattern here, because, in 2015

0:44:360:44:46

alone... In 2015 alone am a

Conservative members of the European

0:44:460:44:53

Parliament voted against five

reports to introduce methods of

0:44:530:44:59

fighting tax avoidance and evasion.

Last week, HMRC admitted that

0:44:590:45:02

multinational companies avoid paying

5.8 billion taxes in 2016. Despite

0:45:020:45:11

this, HMRC is currently cutting

another 8000 staff. So can the Prime

0:45:110:45:18

Minister assure the house that, in

the upcoming Budget, instead of more

0:45:180:45:26

cuts to HMRC, they will get more

resources to tackle the scourge of

0:45:260:45:28

aggressive tax avoidance and

evasion?

0:45:280:45:35

I have reassure the Right Honourable

gentleman. HMRC is acting since this

0:45:350:45:42

Conservative Party came into

Government in 2010 and will continue

0:45:420:45:46

to act but, of course, in asking

these questions, he might want to

0:45:460:45:53

reflect on why it was before the

dissolution of Parliament earlier

0:45:530:45:56

this year, it was the Labour Party

that stopped and refused to support

0:45:560:46:01

a tax avoidance and evasion measures

brought forward by this Government.

0:46:010:46:07

His party stopped it.

Mr Speaker, my

question was why Conservative MPs

0:46:070:46:22

opposed what Labour was proposing

yesterday? So, Mr Speaker... Last

0:46:220:46:40

month's European Parliament

committee of enquiry set up in the

0:46:400:46:42

wake of the Panama papers, claimed

that the UK is obstructing the fight

0:46:420:46:48

against tax dodging and

money-laundering. And, just last

0:46:480:46:53

week, the EU's competition

Commissioner announced an enquiry

0:46:530:46:57

into UK taxation rules that may have

institutionalised tax avoidance by

0:46:570:47:03

multinational corporations. Isn't

the Prime Minister concerned that

0:47:030:47:09

vital revenue is being lost to fund

schools and hospitals? Will she

0:47:090:47:13

change the rules in the budget?

Can

I say to the right honourable

0:47:130:47:20

gentleman we have taken an extra

£160 billion in additional

0:47:200:47:28

compliance revenue since 2010 and he

says measures being proposed this

0:47:280:47:34

week, as I said in my previous

answer, we would have had more tax

0:47:340:47:39

evasion measures in place if the

Labour Party had not blocked of

0:47:390:47:44

before the last election. This party

in Government has not just been

0:47:440:47:53

acting in the UK. We have been

working with the Crown dependencies,

0:47:530:47:58

the British Overseas Territories,

and leading the world, it was the

0:47:580:48:05

Conservative Prime Minister that put

this on the agenda of the G7 anergy

0:48:050:48:10

20 four international action against

tax avoidance and evasion.

If we are

0:48:100:48:16

leading the world perhaps she can

explain how the amount of tax paid

0:48:160:48:21

by the super-rich in income tax has

fallen from 4.4 billion down to 3.5

0:48:210:48:28

billion since 2009. Earlier this

year, the Public Accounts Committee

0:48:280:48:36

said the HMRC record of getting

multimillionaires to pay their taxes

0:48:360:48:40

was dismal and the super-rich were

getting help with their tax affairs

0:48:400:48:47

that is not available to other

taxpayers. Our schools budget has

0:48:470:48:54

been cut. More people waiting longer

for treatment.

In the

0:48:540:49:02

order. We do tend to have

overexcitement every week but I give

0:49:050:49:09

notice as usual I would like to get

to the end of the order paper and

0:49:090:49:14

facilitate backbench enquiries, as

well, so members are eating only

0:49:140:49:19

into their own time forth I have got

all the time the world.

Since

0:49:190:49:23

members to get so excited, I must

say it again, our schools budgets

0:49:230:49:27

are being cut, more people waiting

longer for treatment on the National

0:49:270:49:36

Health Service. More elderly and

disabled not getting the social care

0:49:360:49:41

they need. Does the Prime Minister

think it is acceptable that, when it

0:49:410:49:48

comes to paying taxes, there's one

rule for the super-rich, and another

0:49:480:49:52

the rest of us?

The top 1% of

earners in this country are paying

0:49:520:50:03

28% of the tax burden. That is the

highest percentage ever under any

0:50:030:50:10

Government. And, once again, he is

wrong forth over the next two years,

0:50:100:50:20

£2.5 billion extra is being put into

our schools, as a result of

0:50:200:50:26

decisions taken by this Conservative

Government. But I will tell him, he

0:50:260:50:31

talks about spending on schools and

hospitals. I will tell him where the

0:50:310:50:36

real problem lies full sub today be

spent nearly £50 billion in payments

0:50:360:50:40

on interest to those we have

borrowed from as a result of the

0:50:400:50:45

legacy of the Labour Party.

0:50:450:50:50

That is more than we spend on the

NHS pay bill, it is more than we

0:50:560:51:01

spend on...

Order,

0:51:010:51:04

Answer will be heard as I

0:51:040:51:07

Answer will be heard as I indicated.

Mr Gates, you are a senior denizen

0:51:070:51:13

of the House. This excessive jester

Galatea and is not good for you,

0:51:130:51:19

man. Calm yourself.

We spend £50

billion on debt interest every year,

0:51:190:51:27

payments to people we have borrowed

from, more than the NHS pay Bill,

0:51:270:51:32

more than our schools budget, more

than we spend on defence. That as a

0:51:320:51:37

result of the economy we were left

by the Labour Party Government. And

0:51:370:51:43

what does the right honourable

gentleman want to do? He wants to

0:51:430:51:46

borrow £500 billion more to make the

situation worse and leave even less

0:51:460:51:52

money for schools and hospitals.

Tim

Lawton.

On August 22, 2015 in my

0:51:520:52:02

constituency, 11 men tragically lost

their lives in the airshow disaster.

0:52:020:52:08

26 months later, no decision has

been taken on criminal charges and

0:52:080:52:10

coroners inquest has been delayed

again until November next year. The

0:52:100:52:15

families of the victims have just

had their application for

0:52:150:52:18

exceptional case funding rejected by

their legal aid agency and they will

0:52:180:52:22

likely be the only persons at the

inquest not legally represented.

0:52:220:52:27

Will my right honourable friend

agreed to look at this case again

0:52:270:52:30

and to meet the families to ensure

that they have proper access to

0:52:300:52:34

justice in this exceptionally tragic

case which is a much wider public

0:52:340:52:38

interest for safety at all levels?

Can I say he raises a very important

0:52:380:52:44

issue and I can understand the

concerns of the families. In

0:52:440:52:48

relation to this. He talks about the

timetable for decisions being taken

0:52:480:52:53

for the Department for Transport has

accepted the recommendation and they

0:52:530:53:00

are working with the air accident

investigation Branch to determine

0:53:000:53:03

the scope of the review. The Civil

Aviation Authority has accepted all

0:53:030:53:08

recommendations, so there was

considerable work going on to learn

0:53:080:53:12

the lessons from this disaster. But

we're also committed ensuring that

0:53:120:53:17

people, where there is a public

disaster, people have proper

0:53:170:53:22

representation and this is an issue

I will ask the Lord Chancellor to

0:53:220:53:26

look at in relation to the questions

raised.

Ian Blackford.

Thank you,

0:53:260:53:33

can I associate myself with the

remarks made by the Prime Minister

0:53:330:53:36

went to talk about the zero

tolerance there has to be for bad

0:53:360:53:41

sexual practices and behaviour and I

certainly commit my members to work

0:53:410:53:44

with the Government to make sure

that we can have a system we can be

0:53:440:53:49

proud of that protects all members

of the Houses of Parliament. Can I

0:53:490:53:52

pass on my condolences to the family

and friends of Frank Gordon for his

0:53:520:53:57

sad death this week. Can the Prime

Minister tell the House how much a

0:53:570:54:04

working single parent can expect to

lose because of the roll-out of the

0:54:040:54:07

Universal Credit?

Can I first of all

say to the honourable gentleman that

0:54:070:54:14

I'm grateful to him for agreeing he

wants to work across the House on

0:54:140:54:17

this important issue. If I may just

say to him, he referred to sexual

0:54:170:54:21

misconduct, I think what is

important is that we list not just

0:54:210:54:27

sexual misconduct and also bullying,

as well because that is also

0:54:270:54:31

important. He has raised the role of

Universal Credit with me before. The

0:54:310:54:36

reason why we have brought in to

replace it is to ensure that when

0:54:360:54:41

people are encouraged into the

workplace and in work, they are able

0:54:410:54:45

to keep more of the money they earn.

That's an important principle we

0:54:450:54:50

will continue to underpin that.

The

reality is that new research shows

0:54:500:54:57

that working single parents could

lose an average of £1350 a year.

0:54:570:55:03

Because of the cuts to work

allowances. Universal Credit is fast

0:55:030:55:09

becoming Theresa May's poll tax. The

Prime Minister has a habit of you

0:55:090:55:16

turning. Will see you turn one more

time and fix the problems with

0:55:160:55:20

Universal Credit?

Can I say to the

honourable gentleman, I have

0:55:200:55:26

underlined the principle which lies

behind Universal Credit which I

0:55:260:55:29

believe is very important and that

is why when we look at the support

0:55:290:55:32

given to people it isn't just about

the support they receive in

0:55:320:55:35

financial terms but also about

helping them to get onto the work

0:55:350:55:42

ladder, ensuring they can actually

meet the requirements of getting

0:55:420:55:46

into the workplace and when they are

in work they can keep more of the

0:55:460:55:49

money that they earn. I think that

is an important principle and we

0:55:490:55:54

will continue to roll-out Universal

Credit looking carefully at the

0:55:540:55:57

fermentation of Universal Credit as

we do so, because we are doing this

0:55:570:56:02

in a careful way over a period of

time, but the important principle is

0:56:020:56:07

Universal Credit is a simpler system

which ensures people keep more as

0:56:070:56:10

they earn more.

Mr Speaker, in

Amersham we are acutely aware that

0:56:100:56:24

infrastructure is vital for economic

success particularly of other parts

0:56:240:56:27

of the country. However, we still

have areas that do not have access

0:56:270:56:31

to high-speed broadband, and with

the advent of electric vehicles, we

0:56:310:56:36

are going to need to install an

extensive charging network. Could

0:56:360:56:41

the Prime Minister tell me what

further action the Government can

0:56:410:56:44

take to ensure the timely completion

of our broadband infrastructure and

0:56:440:56:48

what it can do to guarantee the

rapid roll-out of electric vehicle

0:56:480:56:52

charging points soap Buckinghamshire

residents and businesses cannot just

0:56:520:56:56

bear the brunt and the burden of

infrastructure development, but can

0:56:560:57:02

take advantage of the opportunities

offered by modern technology?

She's

0:57:020:57:08

absolutely right that we want to be

able to ensure we take the

0:57:080:57:12

advantages offered by modern

technology. That's why these are

0:57:120:57:16

issues addressed in our industrial

strategy and we will continue to

0:57:160:57:19

address them and we recognise that

when we talk about infrastructure in

0:57:190:57:25

this country actually increasingly

the IT broadband infrastructure is

0:57:250:57:28

part of that, it's not just the

physical roads and rails

0:57:280:57:30

infrastructure. We are investing 790

minute and pound improving

0:57:300:57:34

broadband, our big investment up to

1.7 billion, and we are leading the

0:57:340:57:42

world in the development of electric

cars and we need to ensure we have

0:57:420:57:46

those vehicle charging points so we

have put in place grants and policy

0:57:460:57:50

measures to ensure that we see those

charging points so people can take

0:57:500:57:54

advantage of it.

If the Prime

Minister is serious about building a

0:57:540:58:00

country that works for everyone, why

are under 25 is not included in the

0:58:000:58:06

national mood and wage? And also

apprentices, 3.15 hour?

It's

0:58:060:58:14

important we have the national

living wage. It was this party which

0:58:140:58:17

introduced it. That has happened and

has had an important impact on

0:58:170:58:24

people and obviously the national

living wage continues to increase.

0:58:240:58:29

Will the Prime Minister join with

the local Government ministers

0:58:290:58:34

positive comments this week

welcoming family hubs and pushing

0:58:340:58:41

carriage our excellent Conservative

councils to be champions of these

0:58:410:58:44

hubs which can so improve the lives

of children including the most

0:58:440:58:49

runnable children by strengthening

their families?

Can I thank her for

0:58:490:58:53

raising this point. I hope we all

recognise the value of stable and

0:58:530:58:58

strong families and this is an issue

she has championed through her time

0:58:580:59:03

in this House but also outside of

this House as well and I am happy to

0:59:030:59:09

join her in welcoming the

development of family hubs and I

0:59:090:59:13

would encourage Conservative

councils across the country to be

0:59:130:59:14

champions of this.

Thank you. Is the

Prime Minister aware that my city of

0:59:140:59:23

Dundee has been repeatedly in the

news last week. It launched its

0:59:230:59:28

European city of culture bid and is

now the world centre for

0:59:280:59:33

pharmaceutical innovation and the

Wall Street Journal listed it as one

0:59:330:59:35

of the top ten places to visit on

earth, making it Scotland's coolest

0:59:350:59:41

city. Wouldn't it be great if the

Prime Minister today can finally

0:59:410:59:45

tell the innovative, the creative

and cool people of Dundee and

0:59:450:59:50

surrounding area, what precisely is

the UK Government's date for

0:59:500:59:53

delivering its fair share of the

deal?

I'm sorry, I didn't hear the

0:59:531:00:04

end of it. What is important for the

honourable gentleman, he stands up

1:00:041:00:07

and speaks and waxes lyrically about

his city of Dundee and I was asked

1:00:071:00:14

about the Dundee city of culture

last week and made the point that,

1:00:141:00:19

of course, a number of places across

the UK may put in those bits but on

1:00:191:00:23

the creative industries I'm pleased

to see that element of the day in

1:00:231:00:27

Dundee, as well and tasted the deal

will be an important deal for Dundee

1:00:271:00:34

and the surrounding area is at other

city deals in Scotland have been for

1:00:341:00:37

with those have been agreed.

1:00:371:00:45

Cheltenham general's A&E is hugely

valued by me and my constituents and

1:00:451:00:48

we want to see it preserved and

enhanced. Does my right honourable

1:00:481:00:52

friend agree with me that local NHS

managers must listen very carefully

1:00:521:00:57

to the voices of my constituents and

others in Gloucestershire and ensure

1:00:571:01:02

that any proposals can truly command

local support?

My honourable friend

1:01:021:01:07

raises an important issue, because

we are very clear that proposals

1:01:071:01:10

should be developed at a local level

I local commissions, but taking

1:01:101:01:14

account of and listening to the

views of local residents and

1:01:141:01:20

constituents on those particular

matters. I think it is important

1:01:201:01:24

that local people are heard and can

know that decisions have been taken

1:01:241:01:27

in the light of any concerns they

raise, and I understand any

1:01:271:01:31

proposals for urgent care developed

by the Gloucestershire authority

1:01:311:01:38

will be subject to proper

consultation.

The government will

1:01:381:01:41

today published its first report

detailing progress towards ratifying

1:01:411:01:45

the Istanbul Convention on violence

against women. After five years,

1:01:451:01:49

hopefully today's report signals it

won't have to wait long for

1:01:491:01:53

application. But women suffering

domestic violence don't have the

1:01:531:01:59

luxury of time, so this is why the

Prime Minister is sorting out

1:01:591:02:04

misogyny and harassment in place,

will she ensure that all women have

1:02:041:02:08

somewhere safe to go when fleeing

violence?

I say to the honourable

1:02:081:02:12

gentleman that, over the past few

years, but when I was Home Secretary

1:02:121:02:17

and under the current Home

Secretary, we have taken steps in

1:02:171:02:19

relation to funding in relation to

domestic violence, but that funding

1:02:191:02:24

is ring-fenced over a period of

time, so there can be a greater

1:02:241:02:29

certainty for organisations working

in this area. There is much for us

1:02:291:02:33

to do because, sadly, we still see

domestic violence and abuse taking

1:02:331:02:35

place. One of the other steps we are

taking is to bring in new

1:02:351:02:41

legislation in relation to domestic

violence, which I hope will clarify

1:02:411:02:44

the situation, but we need to

address this across a wide variety

1:02:441:02:47

of action.

How we treat our farmed

animals is an indication of our

1:02:471:02:56

civility as a nation. And we in this

country have a record of which we

1:02:561:03:01

can be rightly proud. Does my right

honourable friend share my concern

1:03:011:03:07

that there have been reports that,

as a result of leaving the European

1:03:071:03:11

Union, there may be a relaxation of

those standards? Can she take this

1:03:111:03:16

opportunity to reassure me that that

is not the case, and that in fact we

1:03:161:03:20

will seize the opportunity to

improve standards and thereby

1:03:201:03:26

enhance the reputation of British

produce?

I can assure my honourable

1:03:261:03:29

friend... First of all, I can agree

with him that we are proud to have

1:03:291:03:33

some of the highest animal welfare

standards in the world, and we want

1:03:331:03:37

to continue to be able to have that

reputation as a country where we

1:03:371:03:42

have those high standards. So

leaving the EU isn't going to change

1:03:421:03:44

that. We remain committed to high

animal welfare standards and, as my

1:03:441:03:49

honourable friend says, that may

give an opportunity to enhance those

1:03:491:03:53

standards, so we can further show

people the reputation this country

1:03:531:03:56

as is somewhere where they can be

safe and secure in the knowledge of

1:03:561:04:01

conditions in which their food has

been prepared.

The Prime Minister

1:04:011:04:06

will be aware that 4 million

children in our country are growing

1:04:061:04:11

up in poverty, and that number has

risen. Two thirds of those children

1:04:111:04:16

are from working families. Does she

still seriously believe that the

1:04:161:04:20

introduction of Universal Credit

will balloon -- will bring that

1:04:201:04:25

number down?

The number of children

in absolute poverty has actually

1:04:251:04:29

come down under this government.

But, of course, we need to be aware

1:04:291:04:35

of the impact of decisions. We are

looking carefully at the

1:04:351:04:41

implementation of Universal Credit,

but I will repeat the point I made

1:04:411:04:44

in response to the question from the

leader of the SNP, which is that the

1:04:441:04:48

point of Universal Credit if it is

more straightforward, a simpler

1:04:481:04:52

system, but also it helps people get

into the workplace and ensures that

1:04:521:04:57

they keep more of the money that

they earn, which I think is

1:04:571:05:00

important.

This government's

industrial strategy makes the

1:05:001:05:09

historic commitment for a fairer

distribution of infrastructure

1:05:091:05:11

spending across the regions, our

roads, railways and digital

1:05:111:05:17

networks, and in advance of the

White Paper, would my honourable

1:05:171:05:20

friend confirm this commitment and

between rebalancing of our economy

1:05:201:05:24

by more investment spending in the

regions, not least in Yorkshire?

My

1:05:241:05:32

honourable friend stands up well for

his county and his constituency on

1:05:321:05:36

this matter, but I am very happy to

confirm to him that we will maintain

1:05:361:05:41

that commitment in our forthcoming

industrial strategy White Paper,

1:05:411:05:44

because we want to see a fairer

distribution of infrastructure

1:05:441:05:47

spending across the country, and we

want that because we know that

1:05:471:05:52

infrastructure investment is

important to unlocking economic

1:05:521:05:55

opportunities and economic growth

and productivity in our towns,

1:05:551:05:58

villages and cities. Of course, we

have backed this with ambitious

1:05:581:06:04

commitments to increase spending on

infrastructure by 50% over the next

1:06:041:06:06

four years, but I can assure him we

will be looking at that spending

1:06:061:06:10

across the whole country.

I'd like

to thank the Prime Minister for her

1:06:101:06:15

opening words about the horrific

revelations this week, but can I say

1:06:151:06:21

to her that, three years ago, I

brought evidence to her in this

1:06:211:06:25

house that whips had used

information about sexual abuse to

1:06:251:06:29

demand loyalty from MPs. I have

brought my information to her in

1:06:291:06:35

this house, and I warned her at the

time that, unless real action was

1:06:351:06:40

taken, we risked repeating those

injustices again today. On three

1:06:401:06:45

occasions, I asked her to act and,

on three occasions, she did not. Can

1:06:451:06:49

I ask her, in this of all weeks, for

the fourth time, will she finally

1:06:491:06:56

take concrete action to tackle this?

I will, of course, look back at the

1:06:561:07:02

questions that the honourable lady

said that she raised with me in this

1:07:021:07:05

house. I issue she raised those with

me when I was Home Secretary. I will

1:07:051:07:10

say to her that I am very clear that

the whips office, and I hope this

1:07:101:07:17

goes for all whips offices across

this house, should make clear to

1:07:171:07:20

people that, where there are any

sexual abuse allegations that could

1:07:201:07:26

be the criminal nature, that people

should go to the police. It isn't

1:07:261:07:29

appropriate for those to be dealt

with by whips offices. Those should

1:07:291:07:33

go to the police. That continues to

be the case. I will look at the

1:07:331:07:37

questions she raised with me, but I

am very clear that we will take

1:07:371:07:40

action against those, where there

are allegations that we see, and the

1:07:401:07:46

evidence is there that there has

been misconduct. Can I just say to

1:07:461:07:52

the honourable lady, I hope we will

all send a message from this house

1:07:521:07:55

today that we want people in this

place to be able to feel confident

1:07:551:08:00

to bring forward cases, and we need

to make sure that those cases... No,

1:08:001:08:08

we need to ensure that those cases

are dealt with in a way that people

1:08:081:08:13

can have confidence on both sides

that they will be properly

1:08:131:08:16

investigated. That means, and I want

to see a good process within this

1:08:161:08:23

parliament, so that people feel they

don't have to go to a party

1:08:231:08:26

political process in order to have

their allegations considered.

My

1:08:261:08:31

constituency of Aldershot is the

home of the British Army. It is home

1:08:311:08:37

to many thousands of service men and

women, are loyal, resolute in stead

1:08:371:08:41

fast in their service to the Crown.

Will my right honourable friend

1:08:411:08:46

agree, when her busy schedule

allows, to visit the Aldershot

1:08:461:08:49

Garrison to meet with service men

and women, and to thank them for

1:08:491:08:53

their service?

Can buy first of all

assure my honourable friend that we

1:08:531:08:58

recognise that the men and women of

our armed services serve with great

1:08:581:09:04

distinction and loyalty, and we are

all grateful to them for the service

1:09:041:09:07

they give this country. That is why

we are committed to maintaining 10%

1:09:071:09:12

of being spent on defence. He kindly

invites me to visit his

1:09:121:09:18

constituency, and I will be happy to

do so, if my diary allows.

A few

1:09:181:09:24

days ago, the Chancellor told the

house that the government could not

1:09:241:09:26

afford to borrow £50 billion to

invest in housing, because of the

1:09:261:09:33

burden on the next generation. The

Communities Secretary says that the

1:09:331:09:36

government must borrow £50 billion

because of the burden on the next

1:09:361:09:42

generation of an affordable. Can she

adjudicate?

I have to say to the

1:09:421:09:51

honourable gentleman, there is no

need to adjudicate on the government

1:09:511:09:53

agrees it is necessary for us to

ensure we are building more homes in

1:09:531:09:57

this country. We have already

announced to enable that. We have

1:09:571:10:00

put a number of proposals before the

house in the White Paper. We were

1:10:001:10:07

pleased to announce the extra £2

billion for affordable housing at

1:10:071:10:10

our party conference, and the extra

£10 billion in the cup to buy

1:10:101:10:14

scheme, which genuinely helps people

get their first foot on the housing

1:10:141:10:17

ladder. More housings is being built

under this element and we will

1:10:171:10:22

continue to see that.

Earlier this

week, in my constituency, I horrific

1:10:221:10:33

farmhouse claimed the lives of a

father and five young children. This

1:10:331:10:36

has had a devastating effect not

just on the family but on the

1:10:361:10:43

community around it. Would my

honourable friend join me and this

1:10:431:10:46

house in sending our sympathies to

the family of the breed and the

1:10:461:10:50

villagers and the town? -- the

family of the reef. That is along

1:10:501:11:02

with the emergency services. -- the

family of the bereaved.

My

1:11:021:11:08

honourable friend has raised what I

know is a tragic case, I'm sure that

1:11:081:11:12

everybody across the house would

want to join with him in sending

1:11:121:11:15

condolences to the family and

friends of those affected by the

1:11:151:11:18

fire. This was a terrible tragedy,

and it isn't just the family

1:11:181:11:23

themselves that have been affected

but the local community as well and

1:11:231:11:27

I know that the emergency services

did sterling work, and I am pleased

1:11:271:11:31

to commend the work that they did

and their bravery and

1:11:311:11:33

professionalism. The Secretary of

State for Wales has spoken to the

1:11:331:11:38

police, and they will remain in

touch over the coming days, but once

1:11:381:11:43

again our emergency services do an

amazing job protecting us, and we

1:11:431:11:46

have seen this in so many instances.

They never know when they are going

1:11:461:11:50

to be called out to such a tragic

incident.

With today's news that the

1:11:501:11:55

Electoral Commission is

investigating Arron Banks, the main

1:11:551:11:59

financial backer of Brexit, along

with the significant British

1:11:591:12:05

connections being uncovered by the

American justice department's

1:12:051:12:11

special council, Robert Muller,

investigating Russian interference

1:12:111:12:15

in the US presidential election,

will she assure me that the UK

1:12:151:12:17

Government and all of its agencies

are cooperating fully with the

1:12:171:12:22

Robert Marlow investigation, or that

they will do so if asked? -- Robert

1:12:221:12:25

Muller.

We take very seriously

issues of Russian intervention or

1:12:251:12:34

attempts to intervene in electoral

processes, or in the democratic

1:12:341:12:36

processes of any country, and we

will do so for any other states

1:12:361:12:42

which were involved in trying to

intervene in elections. We work

1:12:421:12:46

closely with our United States

partners, and I can assure them, as

1:12:461:12:51

part of that relationship, we

cooperate with them when required.

1:12:511:12:54

Last month, I was in the Kurdistan

region of Iraq and I referred

1:12:541:13:00

customer declaration of members

interests, but I saw people's

1:13:001:13:04

enthusiasm for independence and the

fresh dialogue with Baghdad. The

1:13:041:13:12

subsequent statements are wholly

unjust and unacceptable. We'll be

1:13:121:13:16

promised except that Depeche Mode

and the Kurdistan region, to whom we

1:13:161:13:22

owe so much, both for resisting

Daesh and helping keep our own

1:13:221:13:26

streets safe, they remain vital to

our security, and can she do all

1:13:261:13:29

that she can to encourage a

resolution based on full respect for

1:13:291:13:33

the constitution and the democratic

will of the Kurdish people?

We are

1:13:331:13:41

working with international partners

to defeat Daesh together with the

1:13:411:13:44

global coalition. Daesh is losing

territory. The action that has been

1:13:441:13:48

taken is having an impact. It

finances have been hit, its

1:13:481:13:53

leadership are being killed and its

fighters are demoralised, but we

1:13:531:13:56

want to see political reconciliation

in Iraq and a political settlement

1:13:561:14:00

to the Syria conflict to deny Daesh

saves space and prevent

1:14:001:14:05

re-emergence. He raises a particular

point in relation to Iraq and

1:14:051:14:09

Kurdistan. I say to him that we have

always been there as a government

1:14:091:14:13

that any political progress towards

independence should be agreed with

1:14:131:14:17

the government of Iraq. We want to

see political reconciliation in

1:14:171:14:20

Iraq, but we have urged all parties

to promote calm, to pursue dialogue

1:14:201:14:24

and to take this issue forward

through dialogue.

An hour ago, the

1:14:241:14:31

government published this report,

the patronising disposition of

1:14:311:14:35

unaccountable power. It's a report

of Right Reverend James Jones, which

1:14:351:14:38

the Prime Minister herself

commissioned to ensure that the pain

1:14:381:14:42

and suffering of the Hillsborough

families isn't repeated. Given what

1:14:421:14:47

we have heard in this session, and

given the events surrounding the

1:14:471:14:51

Grenfell Tower disaster, I think

that I worry that the pain and

1:14:511:14:56

suffering of the Hillsborough

families is already being repeated.

1:14:561:14:59

So can the Prime Minister commit her

government to supporting both a duty

1:14:591:15:05

of candour for all public officials

and, as this report requires, an end

1:15:051:15:12

to public bodies spending limitless

sums providing themselves with

1:15:121:15:17

representation which surpasses that

available to families?

1:15:171:15:24

Obviously the House will appreciate

that I have to be careful what I say

1:15:241:15:27

immigration to the Hillsborough

issue because of the ongoing

1:15:271:15:29

committal proceedings, but I want to

pay tribute to James Jones.

1:15:291:15:33

Throughout the time his work in

chairing the panel, the work he did

1:15:331:15:38

as my advisor on this issue and

working with the family forums, I

1:15:381:15:42

think he's done an excellent job and

once again his report into the

1:15:421:15:47

experiences of the Hillsborough

families which is being published

1:15:471:15:51

today is important and Government

will need to look very carefully at

1:15:511:15:55

the 25 points of learning which have

come out of it and we will want to

1:15:551:15:58

do so because I've always been very

clear that the experience of the

1:15:581:16:02

Hillsborough families had should not

be repeated. That's why we have

1:16:021:16:07

looked and are committed to the

concept of the Public Advocate

1:16:071:16:11

because we want to ensure that

people have the support that they

1:16:111:16:15

need and it's important that we

learn the lessons from Hillsborough.

1:16:151:16:20

I was involved in making the

decision which enabled the

1:16:201:16:23

Hillsborough families to have legal

support. On a basis I think is fair

1:16:231:16:28

in relation to other parties

involved in that inquest and I can

1:16:281:16:32

assure her that we will not forget

the Hillsborough families who have

1:16:321:16:38

been dignified throughout the many

years but they have been waiting for

1:16:381:16:42

justice. We will not forget them, we

will not forget their experience and

1:16:421:16:46

will ensure we learn from that and

learn from that to improve the

1:16:461:16:49

experience of others in the future.

Can I cheekily make another diary

1:16:491:16:56

suggestion to the Prime Minister? If

she could remain in the chamber for

1:16:561:17:00

just a few moments after questions,

she will hear my right honourable

1:17:001:17:04

friend the Newbury introduce his

Armed Forces statute of limitations

1:17:041:17:10

Bill which will provide protection

to those brave service personnel who

1:17:101:17:15

served in Northern Ireland during

the troubles. Like her, I, and the

1:17:151:17:22

whole House, want to see the setting

up the Northern Ireland executive.

1:17:221:17:26

Would she agree with me, we can't do

that at the price of pandering to

1:17:261:17:32

Sinn Fein and allowing a witchhunt

for those people who served so

1:17:321:17:35

bravely for so many years to uphold

the rule of law?

I'm not sure I'm

1:17:351:17:43

going to be able to satisfy him on

the first point he made but I am

1:17:431:17:46

aware of the proposed legislation my

right honourable friend for Newbury

1:17:461:17:54

is bringing forward. We all want to

see a Northern Ireland executive set

1:17:541:17:59

up, and we recognise that this

question of legacy issues is one

1:17:591:18:03

which has been there throughout

these discussions and continues in

1:18:031:18:07

Northern Ireland. What I want to

ensure is any investigations which

1:18:071:18:11

take place in the future take place

in a fair and proportionate way

1:18:111:18:15

because our soldiers did serve

bravely in upholding the rule of law

1:18:151:18:22

but what is important is we should

never forget all those people who

1:18:221:18:26

lost their lives at the hands of the

terrorists in Northern Ireland and

1:18:261:18:31

it is important that any

investigation is conducted fairly

1:18:311:18:34

and proportionately.

As the Prime

Minister will be aware,

1:18:341:18:44

self-employed people are not

eligible for shared parental leave.

1:18:441:18:47

This place is a burden of childcare

on the mother, denying father 's

1:18:471:18:52

financial support and bonding time

with the child. Has the Prime

1:18:521:18:55

Minister seen the demands of the

march of the mummies? Can she give

1:18:551:19:02

us assurances she has prioritised

this urgent issue?

She raises an

1:19:021:19:09

important issue. I'm happy to look

at the point which has been made but

1:19:091:19:13

I would simply also remind her of

this. The reason we have shared

1:19:131:19:17

parental leave for anybody in this

country is because when I was

1:19:171:19:23

Minister for Women and equality I

had to ensure that shared parental

1:19:231:19:26

leave was introduced.

Thank you. In

my constituency, one of the big

1:19:261:19:38

challenges as we leave the EU is

uncertainty around the seasonal

1:19:381:19:44

migrant workforce. Angus produces

30% of Scotland's soft fruit and

1:19:441:19:48

welcomes over 4000 seasonal workers

every year. Would my right

1:19:481:19:52

honourable friend agree that we need

clarity on the new migration free

1:19:521:19:56

work for the benefit of his loyal

workers, for the prosperity of the

1:19:561:20:01

British soft fruit industry and to

support as our overall UK economy?

1:20:011:20:08

She raises an important point about

the importance of supporting the

1:20:081:20:11

ruble economy across the UK. In

relation to the seasonal alb and

1:20:111:20:17

cultural workers scheme she has

referred to, obviously as we leave

1:20:171:20:21

the EU we will bring forward new

immigration rules which will enable

1:20:211:20:25

us to have that control we haven't

had in the past for those coming

1:20:251:20:29

from the European Union but we are

recognising we need to do that in

1:20:291:20:33

the national interest, look at the

labour market and that's why the

1:20:331:20:38

Home Secretary has commissioned the

independent migration advisory

1:20:381:20:41

committee to look at the needs of

the UK labour market and to further

1:20:411:20:47

inform us to bring those rules in.

Order.

1:20:471:20:51

Prime Minister's Questions finally

coming to an end, another record. It

1:20:581:21:02

began with Mr Corbyn saying that he

would be prepared to meet with the

1:21:021:21:08

Prime Minister to try and get a

general approach to dealing with

1:21:081:21:10

sexual harassment and more serious

matters in the palace of Westminster

1:21:101:21:16

and the political parties, and Lisa

Nandy asked an interesting question

1:21:161:21:21

of the Prime Minister, saying that

she had raised some issues of the

1:21:211:21:28

whips using sexual misbehaviour to

ensure compliance. Mr Corbyn

1:21:281:21:34

surprised us all, because he went on

business jets, private jets, I think

1:21:341:21:40

he was talking about. 950 of them on

the Isle of Man, which would seem

1:21:401:21:44

quite a lot for a small island, but

apparently it's a way that the jets

1:21:441:21:49

are bought that way to avoid VAT,

and so Mr Corbyn went in general on

1:21:491:21:54

tax avoidance and evasion issues for

all of the questions that he went

1:21:541:21:58

through. Although it surprised us, I

think it's based on the fact there

1:21:581:22:06

has been another leak, like the

Panama Papers, we don't know if it's

1:22:061:22:09

as big as that, this time based in

Bermuda, a British Crown dependency,

1:22:091:22:14

I think is what we call it, and the

details of what are in this league

1:22:141:22:18

are coming out this weekend,

including an Panorama.

1:22:181:22:22

There have been various stories

about a company called Appleby, a

1:22:221:22:27

data leak about business, of what's

been going on in terms of Bermuda.

1:22:271:22:32

There's been reporting on the Isle

of Man and some pick-up in the

1:22:321:22:36

British press about this particular

scheme over whether people have been

1:22:361:22:39

using the purchase of business jets

as basically expensive ways of

1:22:391:22:44

avoiding having to pay VAT. Not very

much information about this in the

1:22:441:22:49

public domain yet, it's not clear to

me whether or not Jeremy Corbyn was

1:22:491:22:52

picking up on this because he knows

something the rest of us don't, or

1:22:521:22:56

indeed it was over the fact that

yesterday and I think it's more

1:22:561:22:59

likely, yesterday in the House of

Commons labour tried to put down

1:22:591:23:02

amendments to the Finance Bill which

was finally in its final stages,

1:23:021:23:06

including an amendment from a

prominent Labour backbencher, trying

1:23:061:23:10

to crack down on this particular

loophole and the Government did not

1:23:101:23:14

accept that so this is absolutely

home turf for Jeremy Corbyn, the

1:23:141:23:20

kind of issue he's passionate about.

And I think basically it was an

1:23:201:23:25

opportunity for him to have a go at

the gamut on this issue.

1:23:251:23:30

Unfortunately, in terms of PMQs, it

turned into a tit-for-tat, you voted

1:23:301:23:33

against this a couple of years ago,

but we will see whether or not he's

1:23:331:23:39

got more information.

What would you

say to Jeremy Corbyn but not doing

1:23:391:23:44

enough on tax avoidance?

He's not

looking at the measure which

1:23:441:23:47

determines how much you are doing,

the tax gap, so there's a

1:23:471:23:51

calculation about how much we should

theoretically be collecting against

1:23:511:23:54

what we are collecting, and the gap

has narrowed by 25% since 2010 and

1:23:541:23:59

we now have the lowest tax gap in

the world so of course there's more

1:23:591:24:03

to be done, but for him to suggest

nothing is being done, he's

1:24:031:24:08

completely ignoring the fact we have

completely focused on reducing the

1:24:081:24:12

tax gap and we continue to do so.

The Prime Minister said the

1:24:121:24:16

Government collected next £160

billion because of enhanced

1:24:161:24:21

compliance since 2010. And the tax

gap had gotten narrower and narrower

1:24:211:24:28

and much lower than under Labour so

what you think of that?

Well, my

1:24:281:24:35

response is quite simply we have to

push on further. Labour raised more

1:24:351:24:41

taxes through closing loopholes but

what we want to do is move on

1:24:411:24:48

further than that and that's what we

were trying to do in the Finance

1:24:481:24:51

Bill which has been with us since

March, trying to the gunmen to close

1:24:511:24:54

even more tax loopholes.

But you

voted against doing this.

No, that's

1:24:541:25:01

not true. The bill came to us before

the election, the Government called

1:25:011:25:07

election, they cut short the process

for scrutiny, so it goes into the

1:25:071:25:12

system of what goes through and not.

If we had passed those amendments,

1:25:121:25:19

that law...

I'm going to interrupt

you because Lisa Nandi, Labour MP,

1:25:191:25:27

she had one of the standard

questions in PMQs about using

1:25:271:25:33

scandal to control MPs' behaviour.

What was the background to your

1:25:331:25:40

question? Explain what it was you

were getting at.

Three years ago

1:25:401:25:44

when Theresa May was Home Secretary,

I came to the House to raise with

1:25:441:25:47

her serious concerns I had about the

way in which the whips office

1:25:471:25:52

operated in the past. And wanted

those same practices may persist now

1:25:521:25:59

if left tackles a full stomach came

about because I had seen the

1:25:591:26:02

documentary where a former Tory whip

had given an interview where he

1:26:021:26:08

talked about covering up in

discussions in total black book

1:26:081:26:14

which was then used to demand

loyalty from Tory MPs. In that same

1:26:141:26:19

interview, the former Home Secretary

had also made similar comments about

1:26:191:26:24

the existence of these platforms.

That was back in the 1970s. Is at

1:26:241:26:29

your indication that are still going

on?

Unless Theresa May gave the

1:26:291:26:38

child abuse enquiry she established

the power to demand these papers, we

1:26:381:26:42

would not be able to discover what

had led to that situation being able

1:26:421:26:47

to persist for so long, and we would

not be able to learn lessons for the

1:26:471:26:51

future to make sure we didn't repeat

these practices in the present-day.

1:26:511:26:56

In the end, sexual assault is about

power. It's not just about sex. It's

1:26:561:27:03

about power and bullying and secrecy

and creating an environment in which

1:27:031:27:08

it is allowed to persist. The

question I asked of Theresa May

1:27:081:27:11

three times, three years ago, would

she act to make sure those papers

1:27:111:27:17

were disclosed and real action was

taken? She didn't do anything about

1:27:171:27:21

it at the time but I hope she will

do something now.

Thank you for

1:27:211:27:24

coming straight from the chamber to

speak to us. You have been in the

1:27:241:27:28

whips office more recently.

Lisa was

in opposition as a web at the time.

1:27:281:27:35

You said they don't do that any

more.

This may or may not relate to

1:27:351:27:40

practices in the 1970s, well before

our time in politics but I can

1:27:401:27:46

assure everybody there is no little

black book and any allegation...

Not

1:27:461:27:51

even virtually?

We have

spreadsheets.

That could be just as

1:27:511:27:58

bad.

Any criminal allegations and

impropriety are taken straight to

1:27:581:28:04

the place and I hope the Shadow

whips office where Lisa works, I

1:28:041:28:07

would hope the same thing applies.

It was clear in the past that was

1:28:071:28:11

not the case. We will find out soon

if it will be.

1:28:111:28:17

There's just time to put you out

of your misery and give

1:28:171:28:20

you the answer to Guess The Year.

1:28:201:28:22

The year was...

1:28:221:28:23

1982.

1:28:231:28:24

Let's find the winner.

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The winner is John

Timson from Romford.

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He's won the coveted mug.

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That's all for today.

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The One O'Clock News is starting

over on BBC One now.

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Plenty to report there.

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Jo and will be here at noon tomorrow

with all the big political stories

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of the day.

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I will be back tomorrow night.

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I will be back tomorrow night.

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Do join us if you can.

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Bye bye.

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