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Hello and welcome to

the Daily Politics.

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Parliament's Brexit Committee says

it can't see a solution

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to the negotiation sticking point

of how the Irish border

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will work after Brexit.

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We'll talk to its chair Hilary Benn.

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Do you know your passporting

from your equivalence?

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We'll look at the options

for Britain's banking

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industry after Brexit.

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Whatever happened to

the boundary review?

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MPs have already voted to decrease

the number of constituency

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seats from 650 to 600,

but a new bill seeks

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to up the numbers again.

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We'll work out what's going on.

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And it's December 1st

and it's beginning to look

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a lot like Christmas.

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So, what should you get

the political geek

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in your life this year?

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We'll have the Daily Politics

comprehensive guide.

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All that in the next hour

and with us for the duration

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Tim Montgomerie, Conservative writer

and founder of the website

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UnHerd and Helen Lewis,

Deputy Editor of the New Statesman.

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Thank you for coming in.

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Thank you for coming in.

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Now, in a video posted on Twitter

last night Jeremy Corbyn

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launched a fresh assault

on Britain's bankers.

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When bankers say the Labour Party

is a threat, they're

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right, Mr Corbyn said.

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Let's take a look.

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Nurses, teachers, shop workers,

builders, well, just about everyone,

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is finding it harder to get

by while Morgan Stanley's CEO paid

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himself £21.5 million last year.

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And UK banks paid £15

billion in bonuses.

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Labour is a growing movement

with well over half a million

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members and a government in waiting

that will work for the many.

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So when they say we are

a threat they are right.

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We are a threat to a damaging

and failed system that

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is rigged for the few.

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Helen, we all know that Jeremy

Corbyn is a socialist and does not

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need to persuade his supporters he

is enemy of the banking sector,

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would it not be better for him to

reach out to the financial

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community?

They have been doing

that. But first Labour has no big

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donors any more. They used to have

Sainsbury's and people like that and

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they see themselves as a grassroots

membership organisation funded by

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small donations.

A vast number.

They

are not in hog with big business to

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that sense. Also the Tory party has

thrown away some of its advantage

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with big business by supporting

Brexit. People in the business

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community see it as a threat and a

big disruption they would rather not

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happen. The Tories always seemed to

have that idea that they were sound

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and stable with continuity and

labour are reflected that. That has

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been eroded by Brexit.

This was a

video that Jeremy Corbyn put out on

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Twitter last night and he has been

very effective to use social media

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to circumvent journalists. But he is

also cover star, on the front cover

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of GQ magazine. Are we beginning to

see the emergence of a coherent,

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perhaps convincing, media strategy?

Using social media to motivate

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people and there he is on the GQ

cover.

Looking ministerial.

Is this

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an effective strategy?

It has been a

phenomenon over the last few years,

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one I did not predict, how much

Jeremy Corbyn's personality has

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underpinned Labour's success. They

have a very radical agenda. If John

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McDonnell had been the leader and

the front man for that, he is a much

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more aggressive character, I think

it would have frightened people. But

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the guy who makes jam and has an

allotment and who does not seem to

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get angry very much is almost the

perfect front person for what is a

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radical agenda. The Conservatives

need to get the focus much more on

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the policy issues and the dangers of

Labour's economic policies and away

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from the personality. It is

interesting how much labour is now

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going for a strategy that looks more

Blairite than Momentum.

And the

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control they exercise. The editor of

GQ said he had never seen an

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operation quite like the media

operation around Jeremy Corbyn. He

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will be chuffed with that?

I think

so, but they are also very defensive

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of him. His supporters as well feel

very defensive about him. He was

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written off completely by the

mainstream media and now they feel

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they have to protect him. This is

where the accusations of cult

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personality come from because they

feel personally he has come under

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intense attack. But Tim is right in

the sense they have built a brand

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that is the brand he has got and the

Tory attack that this man is

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dangerous, he will take you back to

the 1970s and you think drain covers

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and jam and you can put them

together, it did not work at the

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last election.

I am struggling to

put that together in my head as

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well!

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well!

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Now it is time for our daily quiz.

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Jeremy Corbyn is on the cover

of this month's GQ magazine,

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but what make was the suit

he was wearing for the photo shoot?

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A) Armani.

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B) Pre-mani, otherwise

known as Primark.

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C) Dolce and Gabbana.

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D) Marks & Spencer.

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Do you know the answer?

Yes.

Do not

say so now.

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Do not say so now.

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At the end of the show

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Tim and Helen will give

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us the correct answer.

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So as it's the first day of December

we thought we'd take a look

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at our Brexit advent calender to see

what festive treats will be in store

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for us in the coming days.

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There's a lot going on.

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This morning the Exiting the EU

Committee publishes a report arguing

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they can't see how the problem

of the Irish border can be solved,

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something that perhaps European

Council President Donald Tusk

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and the Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar

will talk about when they meet

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later today in Dublin.

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Next Monday Theresa May will meet EU

Commission President

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Jean-Claude Juncker,

where they will discuss

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the Prime Minister's revised offer

on the divorce bill,

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and then on Wednesday

the European Council

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and the European Commission

will then meet behind closed doors

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to discuss Mrs May's proposal.

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Also on the 6th, Brexit Secretary

David Davis will be in front

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of the Exiting the EU committee

to face a grilling over his redacted

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impact assessments.

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The moment of truth will come

a week later when all EU

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leaders meet in Brussels

for the European Council summit.

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The meeting lasts for two days

and the Prime Minister will be

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hoping that on the second day

they will announce that enough has

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been agreed over money,

the Irish border and EU citizens'

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rights so that they can

move on to the second

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phase of the negotiations

and start talking trade.

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Well, new Irish Deputy

Prime Minister and also

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Irish Foreign Minister Simon Coveney

was asked about the Brexit

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negotiations this morning.

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What the British government has been

asking of the Irish government is

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just - trust us, we will solve these

issues with a broad, bold trade

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agreement, so that may

not be possible...

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Can I play you a clip?

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Can I play you a clip...

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Sorry to disrupt you...

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To finish the point, John...

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Yes, carry on?

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Sorry, I mean we cannot be

asked here to leap into

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the dark.

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Well, Parliament's Brexit committee

has a report out today on how

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the negotiations have been going.

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It says the Committee can't see how

it will be possible to resolve

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the issue of having no border

between Northern Ireland

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and the Republic with

the government's policy of leaving

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the single market and customs union.

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The Chair of that committee,

Labour's Hilary Benn,

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is in Central Lobby.

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Thank you very much, good afternoon.

You say in your report that the

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proposals for the border are not

tested. Is that not the whole point,

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we are in uncharted territory and we

will not know how to solve it?

We

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certainly are in uncharted territory

because of the referendum result.

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But the decision to leave the

customs union and the single market

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is not an inevitable conference

consequence, it is a choice the

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government made. On the one hand the

government has rejected that there

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should be no border, institutional

arrangements and no infrastructure

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and we support that and the Irish

government and everybody supports

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that. But we do not see how you can

reconcile that with the other

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decision the government has made

about leaving the customs union and

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the single market. Therefore we have

called on the government to set out

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in more detail how it proposes to

square that circle. What it

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published in the summer I'm talking

about technology and a new customs

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partnership, was itself in the

government's own words and tested.

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Clearly it has thus far not been

sufficient to provide reassurance to

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the Irish government.

What do you

propose? What are your solid

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proposals for how to take this very

complicated position with the two

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sides seem very far apart? What do

you suggest?

The Select Committee

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has not proposed a solution, we have

identified the continuing nature of

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the problem. What would you suggest?

The Select Committee has not reached

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a view on that. Personally as a

Labour politician I would stay in

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the customs union, but that is not a

solution the customs union has

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reached, the Select Committee has

reached. The Select Committee has

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also said today we want to see the

negotiations moved on to phase two

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because that may help to provide

part of the answer to this question,

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depending on our future trading

relationship, and we what the

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government to set out clearly,

assuming the European Council gives

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the go-ahead, what seeking a deep

and special partnership actually

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means. Michel Barnier will be asking

them what they want. Parliament

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needs to know what the government's

plan is.

There were lots of well

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sourced reporters earlier in the

week that the mood in Dublin is a

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lot of progress has been made on

this issue. Doesn't your Select

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Committee report 48 hours late,

behind the curve?

We produced our

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report on the basis of information

available to us at the time we

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finalised it. But if progress has

been made, I am certain the Select

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Committee would welcome that because

we also say we want to move on to

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phase two of the negotiations. Some

things will move quite quickly,

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particularly when you have a

deadline coming up. But this is

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clearly a fundamental problem which

the government has recognised and

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the Irish government has recognised

that and what the Irish government

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has been saying in recent weeks have

indicated they were not at that

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point satisfied a solution could be

found. I hope one can be that gets

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us through to phase two, but we will

not see the final answer on the

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border until the negotiations are

completed.

Has the intervention of

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Leo Varadkar, the Irish Taoiseach,

helped progress this argument?

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Critics of his say he is

intransigent and has presented a

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problem. As he prevented you with a

problem?

The Irish government is

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looking after Ireland's interests

and everybody wants to solve this

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problem, but it is a problem that

has been put on the Republic of

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Ireland by the referendum result and

by the government's decision to

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leave the customs union and the

single market. That is why there is

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a difficulty. Ireland is

particularly affected by Brexit and

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therefore it is appropriate that the

Taoiseach should say we need to look

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after the interests of our country

and in the end we have to reach an

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agreement not just between the UK

and Ireland because Ireland is part

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of the 27 and the issue about the

border is when we leave the European

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Union, this will be the external

border of the 27 member states as it

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is in all of the other countries.

That is why trying to find a

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solution, given the context, given

the Good Friday Agreement and the

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fact there are 200 crossings with no

border posts or checking at the

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moment, a practical benefit of the

Good Friday Agreement, it is

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important we hang onto that, but we

have to find a practical way forward

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and that is why we have called on

the government to set out in more

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detail how it will solve it. What it

has offered so far has not persuaded

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the Irish government or the Select

Committee that you could square the

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circle.

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Jacob Rees Mogg reported that

today's report Select Committee is

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split between those who voted to

remain and those who voted to leave.

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It is a bit of a remain tinge.

Well

done for coming up with that! The

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vast majority of the report was

agreed by consensus. We work very

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hard in the committees, I am sure

Jacob will attest to that, to try

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and reach consensus. You look at the

back of the report and you can see

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which sections were voted on and

each member of the committee as an

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individual decides how they will

cast their vote. We have a job of

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work to do as a committee to hold

the government to account, to

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scrutinise the process of Brexit. In

the past we have said there should

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be a vote for MPs and the government

eventually agreed with that. We call

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for a conditional arrangement and

the government is seeking those. We

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asked for a white paper on the

negotiating objectives and that was

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given. We are seeking to have an

influence on the process and we are

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working together as members despite

the different views we held during

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the referendum last year.

Thank you

very much indeed.

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Thank you very much indeed.

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Joining us now is the Conservative

MP and member of the Brexit Select

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Committee, Jacob Rees Mogg.

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You are an optimist, what is your

solution?

Can I agree with the last

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point that Hilary Benn was saying,

he is a really good and patient

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chairman and there are areas of

agreement and we do our best to

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agree, but the highlight of the

report is inevitably the issues

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where we do not agree which is

divided straight down the lines of

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how you divided and voted in the

referendum. Select Committee report

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are powerful when they are

unanimous, when they are not

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unanimous, it is straight party

politics.

What is your solution?

The

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solution was set out very clearly by

John Thomson who appeared in front

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of the Brexit Select Committee and

he said he could implement the

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government's policy on not having

any border, it was manageable, and

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if the border was imposed, that was

a matter for the Irish government

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and the European Union. There was no

need for any border in terms of UK

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Government policy and it is up to

the Republic of Ireland and the

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European Union to decide if they

want to impose one.

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Do you have confidence the proposed

checks for technical solutions, a

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lot of people say that there is no

need, there could be a frictionless

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border, are you confident that they

will actually work? There are

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feelings in Dublin they could be a

gift to insurgents?

I think most of

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it is very straightforward, you can

do customs declarations in the same

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way you do a VAT declaration. The

transition becomes a tax point

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rather than a checkpoint. People pay

their VAT by sending in a quarterly

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return and there is an exemption of

£85,000 for VAT when you do not have

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to do this. The government suggested

the exemption for customs should be

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£250,000 and then it's a question of

whether people pay their taxes or

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not. That solution is very

straightforward. At nontariff

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barriers, some things take place on

an all Ireland basis already. So,

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animal hygiene is on an Au Ireland

basis already. There's no need to

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break it up. The technological

solutions are there -- or Ireland.

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We do not want to put tariffs on

anybody, free trade is the

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opportunity of Brexit and we should

not be looking to collect vast

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customs revenues.

The DUP are

kingmakers of this Parliament. Was

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it productive for them to say, to

threaten, that they would remove

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their confidence in supply

agreement?

I think the issue that

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they correctly raised was we cannot

have a situation when Northern

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Ireland is taken away from the

United Kingdom. Northern Ireland is

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as much a part of the UK as Somerset

and that is the position of

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conservatives and unionists.

Was it

damaging to the government and its

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wider agenda that the confidence and

supply agreement we have could

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potentially be undermined by the

DUP?

This party is the main party of

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government, the unionist bid is

essential. There is no majority

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within the Conservative Party, let

alone in the DUP, to break up the

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United Kingdom, to meet the

requirements of the Prime Minister

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of Ireland. I think what the DUP

said is pretty standard conservative

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policy.

Tim, based on what we have

seen so far on Brexit negotiations

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progressing, as Britain got up to

the job of finding a solution for

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this vexing issue?

These

negotiations are very hard, what

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they have revealed more than

anything else is how fragile and

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insecure and organisation the EU is.

A competent institution would not be

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so difficult in these negotiations.

It is so worried about losing other

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members it is having to be so

difficult with the UK. And the Irish

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border issue. It is much easier to

solve this issue if trade talks are

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happening concurrently with other

issues. Because the EU is so

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obsessed with the money issue,

because the budget position of the

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EU is so weak, we are in difficult

positions where the Irish government

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is playing politics. Sinn Fein tries

to run a harder line on this issue

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and the Prime Minister of Ireland

feels they have to play the game

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too. It's a principal game we have

to take from this. I think this can

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be solved. There is every

possibility that towards the end of

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negotiations, one country, remember

how the EU Canada agreement was

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almost held to ransom? There a poll

Maka cup possibility one country can

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do that again. We had to prepare for

no deal -- there is a possibility

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one country can do that again.

You

are flanked by optimists on all

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sides, it sounds straightforward, do

you share their optimism?

Not about

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the idea of the deal if you want to

stay outside of the customs union.

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The simple solution is to stay in

the customs union, I do not believe

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that leave voters in the country

believe they voted on the basis that

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they wanted to unlock the wonderful

potential of trade deals.

95% of

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economic growth is outside of the

European Union.

And the trading

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block is right next to us, Australia

is quite far away. But the point is

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I think it is one of those

situations where people in Britain

0:19:460:19:49

would think, why are we having this

enormous row about something that is

0:19:490:19:52

an obsession for the Tory party and

that nobody cares about?

This charge

0:19:520:19:58

has been levelled at you repeatedly

over the last few years. Is the

0:19:580:20:01

obsession of a particular wing of

the Tory party impeding the finding

0:20:010:20:08

of an easy and pragmatic solution?

The customs union is a protectionist

0:20:080:20:12

racket

0:20:120:20:15

The customs union is a protectionist

racket, and it puts up the prices of

0:20:150:20:17

food, clothing and footwear. These

hit the poorest in our country the

0:20:170:20:22

most because the largest portion of

their spending goes on food,

0:20:220:20:26

clothing and footwear, compared to

the richer in society.

And the

0:20:260:20:30

poorest people in the world, Africa.

It discriminates against imports

0:20:300:20:34

from some of the poorest countries

in the world. It impoverishes the

0:20:340:20:41

poorest. To get out the customs

union will be an advantage for

0:20:410:20:45

Brexit and will be good for the

people in this country but also help

0:20:450:20:48

poor countries elsewhere in the

world. The customs union is a

0:20:480:20:52

disgrace and a blot on the

reputation of the EU. And it has got

0:20:520:20:55

a reputation.

I think this is a

munificent and charitable

0:20:550:21:00

organisation

0:21:000:21:03

-- I do not think this is in the

mind of most leave voters. You will

0:21:080:21:12

hear a lot about respecting the

referendum but we need to hear more

0:21:120:21:17

about what drove the referendum. I

think it was economics and

0:21:170:21:21

immigration, not free trade.

We set

our own tariffs, this is really

0:21:210:21:31

important. In the WTO, you register

your tariffs with the WTO. We could

0:21:310:21:36

put zero on food, zero on clothing

and Sarah and footwear. I tell you

0:21:360:21:40

what, we will get you guys together

to talk about it -- zero on

0:21:400:21:46

footwear.

Damian Green has been in

use a former college at detective

0:21:460:21:51

told the BBC today that he was

shocked by the amount of pornography

0:21:510:21:54

viewed on the computer from his

office many years ago. Damian Green

0:21:540:21:59

denies the allegations, Evening

Standard say that friends of David

0:21:590:22:05

Davis say he may resign over this

issue. Can I ask, what explains the

0:22:050:22:10

timing of this investigation into

Damian Green?

I think the real

0:22:100:22:13

scandal here goes back to what

happened when Damian Green's office

0:22:130:22:17

was searched, a political enquiry by

the police. It was outrageous and

0:22:170:22:24

unconstitutional that an opposition

member of Parliament had his offices

0:22:240:22:28

raided that information stolen from

the convenience of the then

0:22:280:22:31

government...

That may be the real

scandal...

It is...

But right now...

0:22:310:22:37

Patients, I am coming to your

question.

It is a scandal from some

0:22:370:22:41

years ago. What explains the timing

of it now? Many people say that

0:22:410:22:47

Damian Green has been targeted

because of his closeness to a Prime

0:22:470:22:51

Minister that is currently weak.

The

point of origin is really important

0:22:510:22:55

because as a general principle of

law, evidence from illegal searches

0:22:550:23:03

is not permissible.

The police behaved disgracefully,

0:23:030:23:05

they raided an opposition minister's

offices and the House of Commons.

0:23:050:23:09

It's a real scandal and now police,

or ex-police, using information

0:23:090:23:16

obtained improperly to damage a

politician. What we should be asking

0:23:160:23:20

about is the politicisation of the

police force under the last Labour

0:23:200:23:24

government, not about Damian Green.

It's a police force under this

0:23:240:23:27

government revealing confidential

information...

These are retired

0:23:270:23:31

police officers, so it is not.

And

Davis Dave -- and David Davies, if

0:23:310:23:37

he leaves, is it a credible threat

that he should resign?

Why should he

0:23:370:23:41

resign?

But if he did... I'm not

asking if he showed that if he did,

0:23:410:23:47

would it damage the government?

I've

heard no rumours about him

0:23:470:23:50

resigning, he said very important

member of this government and has

0:23:500:23:54

great support across the country. I

could not see any reason for him to

0:23:540:23:58

resign.

It's on the front of the

Evening Standard... Not for the

0:23:580:24:02

first time in a few months, it will

be interesting reading!

They are

0:24:020:24:07

very odd views, and likes freezer

bags...

Jacob Rees-Mogg, thank you

0:24:070:24:11

very much for coming in.

0:24:110:24:13

Now, MPs will today debate an issue

which affects all of them -

0:24:130:24:16

parliamentary constituency

boundaries.

0:24:160:24:17

You could be forgiven for thinking

the matter had been settled.

0:24:170:24:20

Parliament voted in 2011 to reduce

the number of MPs and equalise

0:24:200:24:23

the electorates to about 74,000

people per constituency.

0:24:230:24:26

The new system should have been used

for the 2015 general election

0:24:260:24:29

but the coalition

government couldn't agree.

0:24:290:24:31

Today a private member's Bill

sponsored by the Labour backbencher

0:24:310:24:33

Afzal Khan seeks to reverse

the government's plans to reduce

0:24:330:24:36

the size of the House

from 650 MPs to 600.

0:24:360:24:38

Instead the bill would aim to

equalise the size of constituencies

0:24:380:24:40

based on population.

0:24:400:24:41

Emma is in central lobby for us.

0:24:410:24:49

That's right, under the current

government plans, it could lead to a

0:24:490:24:52

real scramble for seats, if the

number of MPs is reduced by 50. But

0:24:520:24:57

I'm here with a man who says, don't

do that. Keep the number of MPs the

0:24:570:25:02

same they change the constituencies

so they have roughly the same number

0:25:020:25:06

of voters. Labour's Afzal Khan has

the second reading of his Private

0:25:060:25:10

members bill in the Commons today

and Mark Harper also joins me, the

0:25:100:25:13

minister in charge of the coalition

when these original government plans

0:25:130:25:18

were written up. Let me ask the

original intention of the government

0:25:180:25:22

plans was to save money. We cut the

number of MPs here, and I'm the

0:25:220:25:25

country will still take over, why

not just do that?

My feeling is that

0:25:250:25:31

currently the government does not

have a majority. There are people

0:25:310:25:34

from all sorts of parties, including

their own sites, unhappy with the

0:25:340:25:38

change. The government say they want

to save money but what they are

0:25:380:25:42

actually trying to do is reduce MPs

in Parliament but keep their own

0:25:420:25:47

executive power at the same level

with the number of voters that they

0:25:470:25:50

have. In reality, there are 260

unelected peers in the House of

0:25:500:25:59

Lords. That costs 136 million. Are

they going with this? It doesn't add

0:25:590:26:05

up. I'm tried to build consensus

where we can bring all the different

0:26:050:26:08

parties together so we can have

necessary changes.

And Mike Harper,

0:26:080:26:14

that this damage democracy? Why

isn't this a sensible suggestion?

0:26:140:26:18

The root cause of why we brought

forward these proposals in the first

0:26:180:26:22

place and the present law to reduce

the number of MPs is simple. We want

0:26:220:26:27

constituencies to be broadly equal

size, plus or so constituents are

0:26:270:26:34

equally represented across the

country. We thought it was sensible

0:26:340:26:38

in the wake of the expenses scandal

to reduce the number of MPs, the

0:26:380:26:42

House of Commons is one of the

largest parliaments. The cost of the

0:26:420:26:48

House of Lords has come down, I was

a minister who wanted to bring

0:26:480:26:53

forward proposals to elect the other

place but they never went through.

0:26:530:26:57

We have a boundary commission that

is going to report next October, and

0:26:570:27:01

Parliament will be able to vote on

specific proposals. The problem with

0:27:010:27:04

this bill, we kick it into the long

grass again. It's the second or

0:27:040:27:10

third time the Labour Party has

tried to push this into the future

0:27:100:27:14

because they don't want to equalise

the sizes of those constituencies in

0:27:140:27:19

practice. It is an important

principle that voters, wherever they

0:27:190:27:23

are in the country, are equally

represented in parliament.

It was

0:27:230:27:27

the original plans would benefit

Conservatives more.

Is this about

0:27:270:27:31

Labour trying to protect it?

It's

not true, the bottom line is, we

0:27:310:27:37

have people from across, including

the Conservative Party, it isn't

0:27:370:27:42

simply about the Labour Party, I

think it's much fairer. There's the

0:27:420:27:48

idea, of course, we are against that

but the point is there's a real life

0:27:480:27:54

outside that by having this

variation which is 7.5%, it allows

0:27:540:27:58

us to adapt and keep communities

together. Do not forget that we are

0:27:580:28:02

here to serve the community and if

we break it up, that's the people

0:28:020:28:06

who lose out and we want to protect

it.

Do people outside this house

0:28:060:28:11

really care? Even about what a

constituency is or how big it is,

0:28:110:28:15

making sure that the people do the

job? Does it matter to voters

0:28:150:28:19

whether we reduce or keep the same

number?

It's important that voters

0:28:190:28:25

outside feel equally represented.

Some constituencies only have 40,000

0:28:250:28:28

in -- 40,000 voters.

Why not change

the shape?

You need to keep them

0:28:280:28:39

broadly equal in size, and Afzal 's

bill this morning widens things out

0:28:390:28:45

a bit. But we also thought it was

right to reduce numbers of

0:28:450:28:48

Parliament. We thought it was

sensible, and it was one of the most

0:28:480:28:54

popular policies that the coalition

brought forward and if the answer to

0:28:540:28:58

the question you are asking is,

let's have more members of

0:28:580:29:00

Parliament, I do not think it is the

right question.

How much money would

0:29:000:29:04

be saved?

£66 million over

Parliament, you can argue it is not

0:29:040:29:11

the largest sum in the wild but it

isn't a trivial sum of money. It can

0:29:110:29:15

then be spent on public services.

Your plans wouldn't do that?

But it

0:29:150:29:20

would make sure we maintain the

balance. We need to make sure that

0:29:200:29:25

the member of Parliament is here --

members of Parliament here can hold

0:29:250:29:30

them to account, you can try and

reduce MPs to a smaller number and

0:29:300:29:34

this is where the relationship

breaks down. This is why they do not

0:29:340:29:39

have it. It isn't just the Labour

Party but all parties are saying it

0:29:390:29:44

is not right and MPs onside to say

this. What I am saying is sensible.

0:29:440:29:49

It does have support. We can still

go ahead. We are quite happy with

0:29:490:29:53

it. When the review went against us,

we did not block it. We took it

0:29:530:30:00

through. I do not think it is fair

to say that we do not want it

0:30:000:30:04

reviewed. We do. We want to maintain

that.

Where you will see what

0:30:040:30:08

happens with your plans in the House

of Commons today. Thank you to both

0:30:080:30:13

of you. The current government

proposals to reduce numbers of MPs

0:30:130:30:16

could take effect if this goes ahead

by the next election in 2022 unless

0:30:160:30:21

Labour plans derailed this...

Thank

you very much indeed.

0:30:210:30:26

The impetus behind boundary changes

was partly to do with costs to

0:30:260:30:31

Parliament. It arose after the

expenses scandal, MPs were despised

0:30:310:30:35

even more than perhaps they are now.

Is the urgency behind this issue,

0:30:350:30:40

has it gone?

I think there are

bigger issues at the moment. £66

0:30:400:30:44

million is a lot of money but

compared to the sums that the

0:30:440:30:47

government had to deal with, it is

relatively small. I'm very

0:30:470:30:51

sympathetic to the Labour argument,

in some respects, that the real

0:30:510:30:55

Robin is the House of Lords. Outside

of the people's Republic of China,

0:30:550:31:01

is the biggest legislative body in

the world. Costs are beginning to be

0:31:010:31:06

controlled but it is unelected Lords

and people turning up and not

0:31:060:31:11

working particularly hard, many do

but many don't, but that is the real

0:31:110:31:14

affront to the

0:31:140:31:23

Isn't the issue with boundary

changes?

And when MPs potentially

0:31:230:31:29

lose their seats, they will resist

any changes that could put them out

0:31:290:31:33

of a job?

At the moment when the DUP

came in, the boundary changes were

0:31:330:31:42

dead as a dodo because the DUP would

be affected by it. The boundary

0:31:420:31:47

changes only create obvious losers.

Structurally Labour has got a small

0:31:470:31:53

advantage and the idea of a

reduction would not be one that

0:31:530:31:56

finds favour with Labour. Who is

left to vote for it? There is a

0:31:560:32:01

problem. It is mad in 2017 were to

have hereditary peers and people who

0:32:010:32:07

can clock in once every couple of

months and treated as a gentleman's

0:32:070:32:13

club. Lots of peers worked very hard

and their influence is useful and we

0:32:130:32:17

could just have them and not the

other guys.

This bill will not get

0:32:170:32:22

through.

It speaks about the big

problem which is there really very

0:32:220:32:26

little domestic legislation because

people are desperately trying to

0:32:260:32:29

hang bits and pieces where they can

and get through private members

0:32:290:32:32

bills because Brexit has crowded

everything out.

It is a shame

0:32:320:32:39

because after Grenfell in particular

there was something of a chat about

0:32:390:32:44

a big impact on housing. There was a

possibility for Labour and the

0:32:440:32:48

Tories to get together on building

Council houses. The Communities

0:32:480:32:52

Secretary was open to that

possibility, Sajiv Javid. My concern

0:32:520:32:58

about Theresa May is she is not a

bold thinker and she has not been

0:32:580:33:01

able to see opportunities out of a

tragedy like Grenfell to say let's

0:33:010:33:06

fix something so these people did

not die in vain.

On the issue of

0:33:060:33:13

making Parliament feel more

accountable, why is there not more

0:33:130:33:15

of a momentum behind reforming the

House of Lords? Clearly it stirs

0:33:150:33:21

passions on both sides of the House

and people on both sides of the

0:33:210:33:28

divide say there is a problem, but

people are not talking about the

0:33:280:33:31

House of Lords.

Weirdly housing is

another very good example of this,

0:33:310:33:38

something that creates a lot of

specific users, but a disparate

0:33:380:33:42

group of winners and that is very

hard to deal with in politics. If

0:33:420:33:47

you build more houses, lots of

people would have their back garden

0:33:470:33:50

overlooked by a tower block and

there would not like that, but the

0:33:500:33:53

people who would win from that

currently do not have a vote through

0:33:530:33:57

the planning system. Actual physical

human beings would be rejected out

0:33:570:34:03

of the laws, but the improvement of

democracy is harder to quantify.

0:34:030:34:09

Maybe the improvement of democracy

is what we talk about but nobody

0:34:090:34:14

else.

0:34:140:34:17

Now, Chief EU Brexit negotiator

Michel Barnier says British banks

0:34:170:34:20

will lose their coveted "passporting

rights" when Britain leaves the EU.

0:34:200:34:23

These passports allow banks to serve

clients across the EU

0:34:230:34:25

without the need for licences

in individual countries.

0:34:250:34:27

So, should we be concerned

that powerful banks may

0:34:270:34:29

move their headquarters outside

London?

0:34:290:34:30

Or is this all a fuss over nothing?

0:34:300:34:32

Emma Vardy has been looking

at the options for Britain's

0:34:320:34:35

financial services'

industry after Brexit.

0:34:350:34:38

It's a massive money spinner

for the UK, the banking industry

0:34:380:34:42

and the City of London has long been

the envy of other countries,

0:34:420:34:46

and it's underpinned by passporting.

0:34:460:34:49

It's been particularly important

in wholesale and commercial banking,

0:34:490:34:52

in allowing a bank to be registered

in one country in the EU

0:34:520:34:56

but to provide its services

to corporates, in particular,

0:34:560:34:59

and financial institutions

in another country in the EU

0:34:590:35:03

without having to set up permanently

and be locally regulated

0:35:030:35:05

in that other country.

0:35:050:35:08

The loss of passporting has been

a serious concern for the city.

0:35:080:35:12

More than 5000 British firms rely

on these rights to bring in some

0:35:120:35:15

£9 billion of revenue every year.

0:35:150:35:19

And the taxes generated here,

say bankers, help to pay

0:35:190:35:21

for our public services.

0:35:210:35:24

Any damage to the sector

could have a serious effect

0:35:240:35:26

on the overall British economy.

0:35:260:35:29

But some believe that there

are incentives for the UK and the EU

0:35:290:35:33

to find a post Brexit solution that

works for both sides.

0:35:330:35:37

European firms will continue

to want to access the services that

0:35:370:35:41

London provides and I think,

from a political point of view,

0:35:410:35:44

that the EU will actually

want to have some form of influence

0:35:440:35:47

and dialogue with the UK about how

those services are regulated

0:35:470:35:51

because they will be systemically

important to their economies,

0:35:510:35:54

despite the fact we will

be outside of the EU.

0:35:540:35:58

Speaking to the Treasury Select

Committee last month,

0:35:580:36:01

the Chancellor Philip Hammond said

that after we lose the UK's

0:36:010:36:09

passporting rights, some form

of what is called enhanced

0:36:090:36:11

equivalence will be sought instead.

0:36:110:36:14

Most people in the sector accept

that passporting will not be

0:36:140:36:16

the future route but some form

of enhanced equivalence

0:36:160:36:20

within a framework that recognises

international standards and that

0:36:200:36:24

gives businesses appropriate levels

of certainty is going

0:36:240:36:28

to be the way forward.

0:36:280:36:31

This word "Equivalence" is what some

are hoping will save the day.

0:36:310:36:35

The idea that if the UK

continues to adopt the same

0:36:350:36:37

standards as the EU,

than the European regulator may

0:36:370:36:40

continue to allow UK-based financial

firms to keep operating the way

0:36:400:36:44

that they do now.

0:36:440:36:47

The problem is, at the moment

there is no certainty

0:36:470:36:49

as to what the EU may agree to.

0:36:490:36:52

Some companies are already

hedging their bets.

0:36:520:36:55

There's no question that the large

wholesale banks in London

0:36:550:36:57

are making their contingency plans.

0:36:570:37:01

If they don't know what is going

to happen in March 2019,

0:37:010:37:04

they will be forced to start

relocating their operations

0:37:040:37:06

into continental Europe.

0:37:060:37:07

Many have already taken premises,

and are in the process of beginning

0:37:070:37:10

to transfer people and hire locally,

that will begin in January 2018

0:37:100:37:14

in order to be certain to be up

and running by March 2019.

0:37:140:37:21

Until then, when talks

do move on to trade,

0:37:210:37:23

the city will be watching closely...

0:37:230:37:28

Emma Vardy reporting.

0:37:280:37:30

Well to discuss banking after Brexit

we're joined by the head

0:37:300:37:33

of Bloomberg Economics,

Stephanie Flanders.

0:37:330:37:39

Thank you for coming in. Is it fair

to say that the response to Brexit

0:37:390:37:43

so far from the banking sector has

not been as apocalyptic as some doom

0:37:430:37:48

mongers fear?

There are quite a lot

of the big leaders of the banks and

0:37:480:37:54

the big American banks who have

based themselves in London. I have

0:37:540:37:59

had conversations with them over the

course of this year where the

0:37:590:38:02

initial numbers they had for how

many people would end leaving, are

0:38:020:38:07

dialling down in terms of the

initial phase. But firstly they are

0:38:070:38:13

not waiting to find out about the

transition or fingers crossed for

0:38:130:38:18

the negotiations. They are still

making their plans now, particularly

0:38:180:38:22

for the disaster scenario where you

do not have a clear path out and a

0:38:220:38:27

transition. They are doing things

now, they are moving people now,

0:38:270:38:31

they are not waiting for the

negotiations. On the initial day

0:38:310:38:34

after Brexit, assuming it is not a

real cliff edge situation, that

0:38:340:38:42

there is a deal, I think you might

find that we will still find London

0:38:420:38:47

is the dominant financial centre of

Europe for quite some time. Whether

0:38:470:38:51

that is the case in ten or 20 years

when regulations have changed and

0:38:510:38:55

when banks have adapted, I am not so

sure. The initial day one change may

0:38:550:39:01

not be so dramatic.

Is that not what

businesses do anyway? The negative

0:39:010:39:06

impact of the UK's vote to leave the

EU is materially less. It looks to

0:39:060:39:16

have stabilised activity. That may

be sufficient for the GDP to avoid a

0:39:160:39:20

modest contraction.

They were

talking about the economy and not

0:39:200:39:25

necessarily the financial system.

There are fundamental changes for

0:39:250:39:28

the financial systems, especially

legal organisation to continue to

0:39:280:39:35

operate. The short-term impact of

the referendum was not what

0:39:350:39:38

economists thought. But if you look

at the growth rate now and how it

0:39:380:39:42

has slowed, it has had a significant

dent.

And how seriously do people in

0:39:420:39:53

the financial sector take the

possibility of a no deal?

The bag of

0:39:530:39:58

England flagged up early this week

in a report and there is this legal

0:39:580:40:03

certainty question. Apart from where

people are based there are about $26

0:40:030:40:09

trillion worth about outstanding

derivative contracts and half of

0:40:090:40:12

which are due to run on past 2019.

If we do not know what regulations

0:40:120:40:17

will be there to enforce those

contracts, you could find financial

0:40:170:40:23

institutions in impossible

situations. Things like that are

0:40:230:40:26

more of a short-term concern than

the long-term future.

As a Brexit

0:40:260:40:32

supporter you must acknowledge that

there will be huge upsets in the

0:40:320:40:37

financial sector and it is bad news

for the Chancellor of the extract.

0:40:370:40:43

Businesses dislike uncertainty and

this is the moment where uncertainty

0:40:430:40:46

is at the peak because trade talks

have not even begun. Overall there

0:40:460:40:51

are so many positive signs. You have

Deutsche Bank reconfirming that

0:40:510:40:55

London will be the principal place

where they do business. London has

0:40:550:41:00

so many advantages in terms of its

cultural richness, its

0:41:000:41:04

infrastructure, as well as the

conglomeration of financial,

0:41:040:41:08

accountancy and legal practices. And

the language. It is not as if there

0:41:080:41:13

is an obvious alternative Paris,

Frankfurt, Amsterdam? The services

0:41:130:41:20

and institutions are so spread

across the continent no one can

0:41:200:41:24

watch London. London is the only

place Europe has versus Shanghai,

0:41:240:41:29

Hong Kong or New York. It will take

something of an earthquake. We

0:41:290:41:35

should not be complacent and we need

to ensure our tax and regulatory

0:41:350:41:39

systems keep London competitive. But

as the Bank of England Governor has

0:41:390:41:43

warned, not an enthusiast for

Brexit, he has warned Europe don't

0:41:430:41:48

damage your's only real chance of

having a global, financial centre.

0:41:480:41:54

Tim is right, there is an ecosystem

in London that has not been

0:41:540:41:58

replicated anywhere else. You could

argue potentially New York, but

0:41:580:42:02

nowhere else in the world has

combined all of these industries

0:42:020:42:05

together. It is like this ecosystem

or coral reef where everything is

0:42:050:42:09

feeding on each other. But we could

gradually over time lose that and it

0:42:090:42:15

will not be replicated in any other

single city. It will all go to

0:42:150:42:18

different parts of Europe like

Frankfurt, Paris, Dublin, Amsterdam.

0:42:180:42:24

It could disappear, business could

not happen because Europe does not

0:42:240:42:29

have a place that ticks all the

boxes in a way that London does.

0:42:290:42:32

That is the worry. We will lose

something for ever and quite a lot

0:42:320:42:37

of business will not happen that

would have happened.

What do you

0:42:370:42:42

think the public will make of this

idea? Emma's film was about par

0:42:420:42:47

sporting rights and exemptions for

people who are quite wealthy. Will

0:42:470:42:51

the public be sympathetic to that on

pragmatic grounds? We need to soften

0:42:510:42:55

the transition. But will they say

why should there be different rules

0:42:550:42:59

for different folks?

That is what

Jeremy Corbyn talked about at the

0:42:590:43:05

top of the hour. There is a feeling

the mood has changed and there is

0:43:050:43:09

less indulgence. You can see a lot

of our politics through the lens of

0:43:090:43:15

post-crash politics and there is

still residual anger. Who are the

0:43:150:43:19

politicians making the case to

people that are strong, resilient

0:43:190:43:22

financial sector is in the interest

of people who do not feel they have

0:43:220:43:43

seen any of the proceeds of that in

the last ten or 15 years?

Which

0:43:430:43:44

politicians are championing the

financial sector at the moment?

0:43:440:43:51

There are none. I would say Philip

Hammond is the closest you have had

0:43:510:43:53

to a proponent and a defender of the

city. People are trying to keep

0:43:530:43:57

quite a lot of staff here, people

want to stay here, except those who

0:43:570:44:02

have been offered tax breaks to go

back to Italy and France. But if we

0:44:020:44:07

have a Labour government which is

explicit in raising taxes on the

0:44:070:44:15

financial sector, it is a bit

harder.

How hard are you finding to

0:44:150:44:21

win the argument that the short-term

pain in Brexit will be worth it

0:44:210:44:28

because of a game in the medium and

long-term? Is that getting for you

0:44:280:44:33

to argue?

There was an interesting

poll that asked voters what they

0:44:330:44:38

thought the long-term outlook was.

They thought it would be OK.

0:44:380:44:55

I think Britain is in a good

position in the long run and voters,

0:45:150:45:18

more than people in Westminster that

we inhabit, they do not obsessed

0:45:180:45:25

about the twists and turns of these

negotiations and ultimately they

0:45:250:45:30

think that slogan, taking control

and being in control, is funny.

But

0:45:300:45:39

people thinking about the global

economy and world finance, we had

0:45:390:45:43

years where people had nothing but

bad things to say about the

0:45:430:45:47

Eurozone, the included. It's

terribly lethargic, not been able to

0:45:470:45:50

adjust to problems, but this year,

the growth forecasts have been

0:45:500:45:57

revised up... We also have the

possibility of a stronger Franco

0:45:570:46:01

German partnership which could

produce some reform. It seems ironic

0:46:010:46:06

that we seem to be falling away from

Europe as we are seeing positive

0:46:060:46:09

changes.

We opened the show with

Jeremy Corbyn's video last night

0:46:090:46:15

about Morgan Stanley, where he had a

tirade against the financial sector.

0:46:150:46:19

In the city, what do they think is

the bigger threat, Jeremy Corbyn or

0:46:190:46:24

Brexit?

It's a difficult position,

he knew that there would be such

0:46:240:46:27

unpalatable options for people in

the city to choose from? In the last

0:46:270:46:32

election, most people, certain the

last election but one, many people

0:46:320:46:39

in the city would have taken Labour

as the least worst option but with

0:46:390:46:43

this kind of rhetoric and it is

playing well, were then maybe, that

0:46:430:46:46

could change? By and which is a

bigger threat to the city, Corbyn or

0:46:460:46:53

Brexit?

Obviously Brexit.

Obviously

Corbyn! We like a range of views on

0:46:530:46:58

the show!

Thank you for coming in.

0:46:580:47:02

Bonjour et bienvenue

a la Daily Politics.

0:47:020:47:04

I knew I would get the accent

completely wrong!

0:47:040:47:07

No need to adjust your sets -

that's how Daily Politics may be

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introduced in the future

if President Macron has his way.

0:47:100:47:13

On a trip to Burkina Faso in Africa,

the French President called

0:47:130:47:15

for French to become

the world's first language.

0:47:150:47:17

Mr Macron said French had

a "radiance" and "attractiveness"

0:47:170:47:20

to it and should be

more widely used.

0:47:200:47:21

Here's a few famous British faces

showing how to do it.

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FRENCH NATIONAL ANTHEM PLAYS.

0:47:240:47:27

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Il ya maintenant cinquent ans qua la

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appris les canadiens de continuer

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de liberte y d'inclusion.

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Entante camille et allies.

0:47:550:47:58

Merci beaucoup toute

le monde, merci.

0:47:580:48:05

Well to discuss President Macron's

ambitions we're joined from Paris

0:48:080:48:10

by the journalist Agnes Poirier.

0:48:100:48:17

Thank you very much indeed for being

with us. Is there nothing that

0:48:170:48:23

Emmanuel Macron thinks he cannot do?

Is there any chance of this proposal

0:48:230:48:31

actually becoming a reality?

I can

hear the sarcasm all the way from

0:48:310:48:36

Paris! I sort of share that British

irony. But, President Macron's

0:48:360:48:40

optimism knows no limits. It is also

based, I must say, on projections by

0:48:400:48:47

demographers. It is in the first

time that I've heard this. 2050,

0:48:470:48:52

because of the birth rate in Franco

Africa, is very high, the numbers of

0:48:520:49:00

Francophone speakers will be higher

than the number of Anglophone

0:49:000:49:03

speakers. Well, I'm not sure we will

still be around to discuss that

0:49:030:49:06

then, but if you read or hear a

speech in Africa, it wasn't just

0:49:060:49:16

gung ho that France and the French

language, rather, would rule the

0:49:160:49:20

waves soon but it was quite

inclusive. Talking about how the

0:49:200:49:25

French language does not belong to

or in France but it also belongs to

0:49:250:49:30

Africa. And a very young Africa.

It's true, the same with the English

0:49:300:49:34

language that French literature,

wealth and richness, it comes

0:49:340:49:40

actually, I would say it personally,

more from territories outside of

0:49:400:49:44

France because it makes a language

richer. Now, is it desirable that

0:49:440:49:50

French regain status? I'm not sure.

Your point on demography, tomography

0:49:500:50:01

is very important as we look forward

to the rest of the 21st century but

0:50:010:50:05

if it was about demography,

shouldn't we all be learning

0:50:050:50:10

Mandarin or Hindi or Urdu? Isn't

that the way the world is expanding

0:50:100:50:17

rather than through Francophone

Africa?

Personally I think you

0:50:170:50:21

should learn as many languages as

you can. Talking about Mandarin,

0:50:210:50:27

there are languages that are spoken

by a lot of people like Mandarin but

0:50:270:50:31

it is within their borders. The

thing is, like Spanish, Arabic,

0:50:310:50:37

English and Portuguese, French is

spoken outside of its borders. So,

0:50:370:50:43

making it an international language.

It is the fifth most spoken language

0:50:430:50:46

in the world and great writers felt

comfortable writing in French is in

0:50:460:50:56

their own language like Tolstoy or

Anthony Burgess, actually. He was a

0:50:560:51:00

polyglot. I think the future belongs

to polyglots, not people who look

0:51:000:51:07

inwardly but for people and

countries who look outwardly and, if

0:51:070:51:11

I could say a word on Brexit, and I

know it is not going to please Tim,

0:51:110:51:20

but if Brexit is implemented and if

Trump is here to stay, it will have

0:51:200:51:24

an impact on Anglophone coach. --

culture. It has already had an

0:51:240:51:31

impact. Speaking to young Europeans,

they are fine. The US, Britain, the

0:51:310:51:37

Anglophone culture, it's less

desirable than it was before and it

0:51:370:51:40

is very sad. It saddens me

enormously.

That's a hell of a

0:51:400:51:45

charge to put at the feet of the

Brexiteers! How would you respond?

0:51:450:51:49

By voting to leave the EU, you made

English less fashionable and less

0:51:490:51:53

cool and English is on the rise?

0:51:530:51:56

We talked about the bumpy patch that

Brexit is going through, that isn't

0:51:560:51:59

a bad point, but also that President

Macron's ambitions no no limits,

0:51:590:52:10

neither does his humility. Perhaps

you should focus on reforming

0:52:100:52:13

Francis labour laws, and do the

basic things first before changing

0:52:130:52:20

how the world speaks. Look at France

24, their news channel. They have a

0:52:200:52:25

French language service and an

English service language. The BBC

0:52:250:52:29

doesn't...

And Arabic as well.

I

couldn't possibly speak for the BBC.

0:52:290:52:35

I think English is pretty safe,

there is a lot of speculation about

0:52:350:52:39

Brexit.

We had to move on. Thank you

for joining us from Paris. Much

0:52:390:52:44

appreciated.

0:52:440:52:47

Now, it's been a busy

week at Westminster.

0:52:470:52:49

As loyal viewers of the Daily

Politics, we know you'll be

0:52:490:52:52

completely up to date

on all the political goings

0:52:520:52:55

on, but just in case -

here's Ellie with a round-up

0:52:550:52:58

of the week in 60 seconds.

0:52:580:53:00

This week we saw the UK agree to pay

a divorce bill which could be worth

0:53:000:53:03

up to 50 billion euros.

0:53:030:53:05

The government handover to MPs it's

redacted analysis of what Brexit

0:53:050:53:09

will mean for the economy,

and Michel Barnier, the EU's chief

0:53:090:53:11

negotiator, irritates some

Brexiteers by suggesting that by

0:53:110:53:14

voting to leave, Britain had chosen

not to stand shoulder to shoulder

0:53:140:53:16

with Europe following

the terror attacks.

0:53:160:53:19

Elsewhere, the government

announced its long-awaited

0:53:190:53:21

industrial strategy

which focused on, among other

0:53:210:53:24

things, the development

of artificial intelligence

0:53:240:53:27

and clean energy, which was entirely

overshadowed by the announcement of

0:53:270:53:29

the biggest royal

wedding of the century

0:53:290:53:31

since the last one,

and the

0:53:310:53:33

spoilsport PM said no, we won't be

getting a bank holiday for it...

0:53:330:53:40

Meanwhile, Theresa May

has been in Iraq -

0:53:400:53:42

the first British Prime

0:53:420:53:43

Minister to visit since 2008.

0:53:430:53:46

And...

0:53:460:53:47

# It's beginning to look

a lot like Christmas...

0:53:470:53:50

# Even in Westminster...#

a lot like Christmas...

0:53:500:53:52

Where they've already put

up their Christmas tree.

0:53:520:54:01

So, the Parliamentary Christmas tree

has arrived and today is of course

0:54:040:54:07

the first of December,

and that means we can officially

0:54:070:54:09

start talking about Christmas!

0:54:090:54:12

Here on the Daily Politics

we like to give you a helping hand,

0:54:120:54:15

so have come up with a few ideas

for presents to give

0:54:150:54:18

to the politico in your life.

0:54:180:54:21

Tim, Helen, what do we think of

this? This is a Jeremy Corbyn 2008

0:54:210:54:27

annual...

I have flicked through my

copy, there are many useful things,

0:54:270:54:31

including cut out and keep Jeremy

Corbyn masks! To surprise your loved

0:54:310:54:35

ones...

Tim, I thought this would

suit you... It is austere, and full

0:54:350:54:44

of financial information... A lot of

economic things... You know how much

0:54:440:54:52

it costs? £15? £25? £35 if you want

a budget. Do you want that?

Of all

0:54:520:55:00

the things on the table... I want

that one. Is it signed?

It is a rare

0:55:000:55:07

and signed one!

Rare and signed! --

and un-signed. Can I have that one?

0:55:070:55:19

Thank you very much. I'm not going

to wear that...

I hope I'm not going

0:55:190:55:25

to upset Helen with my idea. She is

from the new statesman and I think

0:55:250:55:31

we have two fantastic political

weeklies. But the world is about

0:55:310:55:35

technology at the moment. What is

happening with Facebook, and Google.

0:55:350:55:40

That is where the action is. I would

give politicians a subscription to

0:55:400:55:44

the new scientist and Wired. That is

where the action is. What is

0:55:440:55:49

happening over there in Westminster?

Silicon valley and the laboratories

0:55:490:55:53

and the bedrooms of the whiz kids,

that's what we need to focus on.

And

0:55:530:55:59

Helen?

Any kind of magazine is good,

to get people reading!

Internet

0:55:590:56:07

websites are quite good.

I do quite

like the Internet...

We have gifts

0:56:070:56:12

for you! This is for you, Helen.

It's all worth it!

Can we opened

0:56:120:56:17

them now? I haven't got anything for

you, I feel guilty!

You are on TV so

0:56:170:56:24

therefore you should be impressed!

I

will practice my happy and surprised

0:56:240:56:28

face.

Merry Christmas!

Aah... I can

put this on our tree... I've just

0:56:280:56:35

put up my true.

I have votes for

women. Next year it is the 100th

0:56:350:56:43

anniversary of the representation of

the People Act. I'm genuinely

0:56:430:56:45

impressed.

Yes, very nice. I quite

like the Jeremy Corbyn annual as

0:56:450:56:52

well.

All right, happy Christmas!

It's something you always wanted. I

0:56:520:56:58

really think that red is your

colour.

Manchester United red, but

0:56:580:57:02

not Labour!

There's update you on

the David Davis story about... I

0:57:020:57:09

mentioned it earlier. Basically,

David Davis has warned Downing

0:57:090:57:12

Street not to sack his Cabinet

colleague Damian Green as a result

0:57:120:57:15

of the wrongful attempt by former

officers to do him down. That is

0:57:150:57:20

what sources close to whom have told

the BBC. He says he feels he has a

0:57:200:57:24

dog in the fight because Damian

Green was his subordinate on the

0:57:240:57:28

team at the time. He threw a

protective cloak around his

0:57:280:57:32

colleague on a point of principle. I

suspect that story will develop

0:57:320:57:35

through the course of the day.

0:57:350:57:36

There's just time before we go

to find out the answer to our quiz.

0:57:360:57:40

The question was about Jeremy Corbyn

appearance on the cover of this

0:57:400:57:43

month's GQ magazine.

0:57:430:57:44

What make was the suit

he was wearing for the photo shoot?

0:57:440:57:46

Was it...

0:57:460:57:47

a) Armani.

0:57:470:57:49

b) Pri-mani, otherwise

known as Primark.

0:57:490:57:50

c) Dolce and Gabbana,

or d) Marks and Spencer?

0:57:500:57:52

So, Tim and Helen -

what's the correct answer?

0:57:520:57:56

I have my Marks & Spencer suit

jacket on...

We cannot have these

0:57:560:58:01

endorsements!

I Marks and Spencers.

Did you know that? I did, that their

0:58:010:58:06

Tropi didn't walking on was wearing

an incredibly expensive suit.

What

0:58:060:58:15

does that GQ cover say?

That

airbrushing is brilliant and

0:58:150:58:21

everybody should have done!

I don't

think he confirmed that he was

0:58:210:58:25

airbrushed...

Either that or he has

a great moisturiser!

They are better

0:58:250:58:29

than the pictures in this annual...

Should the Labour leader be getting

0:58:290:58:33

airbrushed?

I don't think they were

worrying in 1984...

Guys, I hope you

0:58:330:58:39

enjoy your Christmas presents. Happy

Christmas from the BBC.

0:58:390:58:42

That's all for today.

0:58:420:58:47

Thanks to Tim Montgomerie

and Helen Lewis.

0:58:470:58:49

The one o'clock news is starting

over on BBC One now.

0:58:490:58:52

Sarah Smith will be back

on Sunday on BBC One at 11

0:58:520:58:55

with the Sunday Politics.

0:58:550:58:56

And Jo will be back here

on BBC Two on Monday at midday

0:58:560:58:59

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