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Morning folks - welcome

to the Daily Politics.

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It was rejected by Ulster's

Democratic Unionists,

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but was the deal the Prime Minister

was about to do with the EU

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on Monday also toxic

for many of Theresa May's Tory

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colleagues?

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The Irish Republic says

they got what it wanted

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from the Prime Minister

on the Irish border.

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But will a commitment

on business regulations extend

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across the Irish Sea to the rest

of the UK?

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Labour want to borrow billions more

which they say they'll

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spend on infrastructure,

but will the extra borrowing

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really pay for itself?

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As if there wasn't enough

on Theresa May's agenda,

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she faces a packed

Commons at 12 o'clock.

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We'll bring you Prime

Minister's Questions - live.

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All that in the next 90 minutes,

and they were looking for a couple

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of C list celebrities to turn

on the lights on the Downing Street

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Christmas tree today

but they didn't get the gig,

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so they've decided to

be with us instead -

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Shadow Transport Secretary,

Andy MacDonald and International

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Trade Minister, Greg Hands.

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Welcome to you both.

Good morning,

Andrew.

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First today, remember those

Brexit Impact assessments

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that the Brexit department

were supposed to be working up -

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57, or was it 58, of them?

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Well, it turns out they

don't exist after all.

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Here's what the Brexit Secretary,

David Davis, had to say

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to MPs on the select

committee this morning.

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Just to be clear, has the Government

undertaken any impact assessments

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on the implications of leaving

the EU for different sectors...

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Not in sectors.

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Of the economy.

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What we do have, not do have,

the Treasury, of course,

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have an OBR forecast,

which has an implication,

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although even

that's pretty crude.

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That's done from the...

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From the...

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The average, I think,

of all the external forecast impacts

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on the economy and so on.

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So there's nothing, there's no

sort of system I think,

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impact assessment...

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So the answer to the question is no.

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No.

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The answer to the question is no,

Greg Hands, yet last December David

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Davis said we've carried or are in

the midst of carrying out 57 sets of

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analysis.

Andrew, we've done what

Parliament asked us to do, which was

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to publish what we had, subject to

retaining any information that might

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be damaging.

Do they exist? To the

UK's negotiating position strap I

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did exist?

What exists is what has

been published.

Other 57? I haven't

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seen a number counted the number...

He said there aren't any.

We have

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published what Parliament asked us

to publish.

The important thing is

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ministers tell the truth. In

December he said he was carrying out

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57 Central analyses and today he

says there aren't any. Both

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statements cannot be right.

I think

the difference is what one defines

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as being a sector. The point is,

what Parliament asked us to publish,

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these analyses have been published

now. The difference is whether they

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relate specifically to a set of

sectors or not. But that is like a

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degree of undergrowth that I

think... The important thing is the

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government is getting on with the

negotiation.

Really, that's going

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really well, isn't it? We will come

onto that in a minute. I want to

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clarify once and for all. He said

they had done sector analysis this

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morning. In December, last December

he said they had. What is it?

Both

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statements cannot be true. It

depends what you mean by a sector

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and a sectoral analysis.

We're

talking about 57.

We have published

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what is out there.

Have you

published 57?

Difficult to say

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precisely what a sector is, in terms

of the analysis today when he said

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appearing before the select

committee.

He knew enough about them

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two weeks ago to say they contained

cruciate in detail.

Some aspects is

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quite detailed, and some details

which might be damaging to the UK in

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the negotiations, really important,

no one would want UK to be damaged

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in the negotiation.

I'm not asking

whether they should be published or

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not, that is another issue and we've

debated on this programme. I'm

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trying to get from you, Minister of

the Crown, a member of the Cabinet,

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if they exist or not.

I'm not a

member of the Cabinet but what I can

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say is what Parliament asked us to

publish has been published, whether

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they are 5758 specific sectors is a

matter of different interpretation.

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Why did he tell the select committee

sectoral analysis, they don't exist.

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Looking at sector by sector analysis

in a very closed and compartmental

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way, that does not exist.

But he

said they did only a few weeks ago.

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He said analysis existed but not

necessarily in the way you have

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described it all the way Hilary

Benn...

This is incredible, no

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wonder politicians get a bad name,

if you can't even answer a question

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like are their 57 central analysis

or not?

There is a set of analyses

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which have been published, redacted

where necessary to protect the UK's

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negotiating position. That is the

important thing.

I don't think I

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need to come to you on this, I will

come to you later on.

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Now, Leavers promised that the UK

would be able to free

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itself of burdensome EU

regulation after Brexit.

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You heard that during the referendum

campaign.

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But have Theresa May and David Davis

allowed resolving issues over

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the Irish border to put pay

to those hopes?

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Here's Elizabeth to explain.

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Thank you, Andrew Foster

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At the heart of the issue

is the UK's border

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with the Republic of Ireland.

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Currently people and goods move

freely across as many as 275

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crossing points along

the 310 mile border.

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There are no customs controls

or border posts because the rules

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of the EU's single market mean goods

can move freely.

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Both countries adhere to broadly

the same rules and regulations

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which are set by the EU.

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But after Brexit, the UK

could diverge from those

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rules and regulations -

so EU law would require the Republic

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of Ireland to check goods

as they cross the border.

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Now, Dublin fears that any physical

Border could undermine

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the Good Friday Agreement that

brought peace to Northern Ireland

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after years of conflict.

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Many in the north are

also very concerned.

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The Irish government has made

preventing a so called

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"hard border" a red line

in the Brexit negotiations.

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On Monday, the two sides seemed

near agreement with the promise

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of "regulatory alignment"

after Brexit, in the absence

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of any other agreement.

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That would mean the same rules

and regulations applying on both

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sides of the border,

with no need for customs controls.

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But, as we know, the DUP -

who Theresa May relies on to prop

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up her minority government -

has rejected any solution

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which treats Northern Ireland

differently to the rest of the UK.

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Yesterday, the Brexit Secretary told

the Commons that "regulatory

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alignment" would actually apply

right across the UK .

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But that prospect has enraged many

Leave supporters who believe

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tackling what they see

as "burdensome regulation"

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is the key to making

a success of Brexit.

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thank you for that. Greg Hands, let

me come to you again, before we get

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onto the substance of this. Let me

ask, did nobody in the government

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think to run this agreement passed

the DUP?

I don't know the ins and

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outs of that conversation. We speak

to the DUP on a regular basis. What

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I would say, the objective here is

everyone has the same objective,

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between both the Irish government,

ourselves...

I will come onto that.

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The DUP keeps you in power. You've

done a deal with them, you are a

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minority government and you need DUP

votes to stay in power. Here is a

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crucial part of the Brexit

negotiations, directly affecting the

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DUP, which the DUP have strong views

on. Did nobody Ramis agreement

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passed the DUP before the Minister

agreed to sign it?

I'm not going to

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comment on the individual workings

of how the government discussions

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with other parties in parliament

work.

Why?

That is something to do

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with the internal workings of

government...

It clearly didn't, the

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DUP said they didn't see it until

the last minute, that's why Theresa

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May had to leave her lunch with

Jean-Claude Juncker. You didn't show

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them, why?

There's been a lot of

misunderstanding about what is meant

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by alignment.

I will come onto

alignment. Will you just finish, can

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we agree that you didn't run it past

the DUP, not you personally, the

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government didn't do and that is why

it is in the mess it is today?

I

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won't comment on the internal

workings of the government with DUP.

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On regulatory alignment, in the

agreement, does that refer only to

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Northern Ireland or to the UK?

What

the word alignment refers to is the

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North-South aspects of cooperation

in the Belfast agreement, the Good

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Friday Agreement. It does not refer

to the customs union or to the

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single market. That is where the

misunderstanding has occurred.

But

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does the agreement, still can it --

and maybe UK to regulatory alignment

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only for Northern Ireland or for all

of the UK?

That is something that is

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part of those talks with the

European Union at the moment.

You

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don't know?

The important thing on

the alignment, it doesn't refer to

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the customs union single market, it

refers to the north-south areas of

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cooperation in the Belfast

agreement.

Sitting here today, after

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the Prime Minister has been unable

to sign this agreement, but it does

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exist, you cannot tell our viewers

is regulatory alignment refers to

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the whole of the UK?

No, I'm saying

the phrase alignment on Monday and

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Tuesday referred to the north-south

aspects of the Belfast agreement.

So

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why did David Davis say in the

Commons, then, that everything we

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talked about referred to the whole

of the UK?

That was not in reference

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to the alignment but the UK's

future, the customs union and single

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market.

Not that people are clear

what it means... But let me ask you

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a more specific question. If the

deal refers to Northern Ireland to

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staying aligned of the EU on those

matters in the Good Friday

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Agreement, like energy and

agriculture, are those elements in

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the Good Friday Agreement, does it

apply to the rest of the UK?

There

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will be nothing that endangers the

territorial integrity of the United

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Kingdom.

I didn't ask that.

But a

lot of this is still flowing, still

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being discussed and still being

debated. I am confident we will get

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to a good position.

You may be but

you cannot answer a simple question.

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I'm talking about the alignment

aspect.

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This is about the single market,

about the customs union, because

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this government has decided it is

going to leave membership of both.

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It is having to come up with

arrangements to Saint Northern

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Ireland or to accommodate Northern

Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

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Though they are quite fundamental

things. And Labour's position, when

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John McDonnell says we must leave

the single market, and Keir Starmer

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says we should stay in the single

market, who speaks for Labour?

Well,

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the whole point is that David Davis

offered us the exact self same

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benefits of the European Union. So

we are into this situation now where

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the government have asked their

principled partner in this

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government about the arrangements...

I understand that. I asked you not

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about the government but Labour. I

will ask you again, when John

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McDonnell says we must leave the

single market and Keir Starmer says

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we should stay in the single market,

who speaks for Labour?

It is

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self-evident when you leave the

European Union you are leaving the

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single market and the customs union.

That is de facto. It's getting to a

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possession which is near as dammit

it which gives us as benefits, and

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what Keir setup very clearly is we

should not be removing those

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options. If you just take them off

the table, you just remove the

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opportunity to have that discussion.

Keir Starmer says we should stay in

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the single market.

That remains a

possibility, but we de facto come

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out of the European Union on the

day. If we can have a transition

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period that keeps us in the single

market and the customs union for the

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duration of the transitional period,

that makes eminent sense to me, to

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allow us to negotiate something that

will accommodate our ambitions, much

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aligned with David Davis' comments.

When Derek Gardner says staying in

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the customs union would be a

disaster, and Keir Starmer says we

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should stay in the customs union,

who is right?

We are saying that the

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option of staying in the union

shouldn't be removed at this stage.

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Gardner says it will be a disaster?

I'm not sure, I don't know where

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that has come from.

His mouth.

CHUCKLES

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There may have been words that led

up to that, you are giving them to

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me in isolation. What I am saying to

you is the transitional period we

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have promoted keeps that available.

Can I just point out, with these two

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issues coming up in the Commons,

Jeremy Corbyn whipped Labour MPs to

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vote against the single market and

against the customs union. He

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whipped them. And those that defy

the whip, the rebels, were fired. To

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give them he did that and now we're

being told we can stay in the single

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market, what on earth is Labour's

policy?

Simply as I have set out,

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that we should have a transitional

period, where the environment, the

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regulatory environment is exactly

the same as it is now, define that

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time to negotiate a settlement that

the United Kingdom.

Why vote against

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it if you are now in favour of it?

There was a vote two weeks ago.

Why

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were people sacked for voting for

membership of the single market when

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you and I -- are now saying its

Labour policy?

To lay it down at

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that stage of the redline. I think

government is calling the Labour

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Party in chaos given the nonsense in

their last 48 hours is quite

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frankly... The kettle black.

Let me

try one time, if you are so much in

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favour of the single, membership of

the single market, why were MPs who

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voted in favour of it fired by

Jeremy Corbyn?

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That was the only option available

to us at that time, was deemed to be

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the wrong decision for us. At the

time. So, perfectly proper for us to

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hold that position...

Can you give

any example of a country that is a

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member of the single market, but

doesn't have free movement?

Well,

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people - Norway have their own

arrangements. Sglt they have free

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movement. We have to, we are a

different economy. We are...

There

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is no example. The price of

membership is free movement. Isn't

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it?

Free movement - it goes, it's

for us to write our immigration

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policy as we see fits our economy,

rather than just simply draw -

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pulling up the drawer bridge and

damming the economy.

What's the

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difference between regulatory

alignment and regulatory

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harmonisation?

The difference is

whether you mutually recognise each

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other's regulations or whether you

actually make those regulations

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broadly the same.

But wouldn't we

have to recognise their regulations

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under the deal that your Prime

Minister is going to sign?

Different

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free trade agreements operate in

different ways. You can agree

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mutually to recognise each other's

regulations without necessarily

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having the same regulations.

If we

wanted to cut our corporation tax to

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10% would that fall within alignment

or be outside alignment?

At the

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moment we could if we wanted to cut

our corporation tax to 10% as full

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members of the European Union.

Under

this agreement would it be?

There is

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no way that the agreement is going

to prevent us doing an activity that

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we could do at the moment whilst we

are in the European Union, Andrew.

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OK. We will leave it there. No doubt

we will come back to it, because all

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this is still unresolved. No sign of

the Prime Minister going back to

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Brussels tomorrow, yet. She's got

until the weekend.

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Over the last few weeks,

John McDonnell has been

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using his post-budget interviews

to set out Labour's

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economic strategy -

borrowing hundreds of billions

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of pounds for infrastructure

spending, nationalising key

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industries like rail and water

and also buying back PFI contracts.

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But the Shadow Chancellor has

repeatedly refused to put a number

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on what all that would cost

and exactly how much more it

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would cost in debt repayments.

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Let's take a look.

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How much is that going to cost?

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Right, what we've said,

and this is very clear-cut,

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and I said it before,

when you take them over...

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I'm looking for a number, John.

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OK, well, you don't need a number.

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By how much does the economy need

to grow for your plans to work?

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Let me just go through them,

because people need to understand

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what we're saying, because a lot

of figures being bandied around.

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I'm just looking for one.

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OK, I'll give you a figure.

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What we're saying if we invest £250

billion over a 10-year programme,

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so about 25 billion a year.

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How much do we now spend on paying

the interest of our national debt?

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A lot, a lot.

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How much?

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Well I'll give you the figure,

I'll send you a note on the figure.

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You don't know?

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Well, I know the figure,

but I haven't got it in front of me.

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How much?

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I'll send it.

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You tell me now.

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If you were elected today, how much

above 48 billion would we pay

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to service our debt next year?

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It's absolutely minimum because it

would be returned rapidly to you,

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and that's about investment...

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What's the figure?

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I'm telling you, it pays for itself.

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Have you got a number

for us now, roughly

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of what the interest bill would be?

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No, let me explain to

you, Robert, if I can.

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The point I'm trying to get at,

is that we do not want figures

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bandied around about future

investment, interest

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rates at a later date,

that will then be used to frighten

0:19:250:19:30

people off from properly

supporting investment.

0:19:300:19:32

We all understand that the figure

will shift, depending on the share

0:19:320:19:35

price and other factors,

but why don't you just tell us how

0:19:350:19:38

much it would cost right now?

0:19:380:19:40

Because the debate is about

whether or not it is cost-effective.

0:19:400:19:43

All I'm asking for is how much

would it cost today,

0:19:430:19:48

to do what you're proposing?

0:19:480:19:49

It would be cost free

because it pays for itself.

0:19:490:19:55

Well, you are the Shadow Transport

Secretary, and I assume that a lot

0:19:550:19:59

of the infrastructure spending that

your Shadow Chancellor talked about

0:19:590:20:04

would fall into your area, a better

transport infrastructure, but we

0:20:040:20:07

also need to know how much more we

are going to borrow. You are going

0:20:070:20:12

to borrow £250 billion over a period

of time for infrastructure. You are

0:20:120:20:16

going to borrow to nationalise, that

could be another couple of hundred

0:20:160:20:19

billion. You are going to take the

PFI contracts back under state

0:20:190:20:23

control, that's another couple of

100 billion. Roughly how much a year

0:20:230:20:26

extra would you have to borrow to do

all of this?

Well, in transport, we

0:20:260:20:32

will bring the railway back into

public ownership and that will cost

0:20:320:20:35

us zero, Andrew.

Because you will

wait for the leases to expire?

Yeah,

0:20:350:20:40

and we will stop giving £2 billion

bail outs to stagecoach and virgin

0:20:400:20:46

like they did last week.

You won't

be able to do that with water

0:20:460:20:51

because it's assets you are buying

there. You won't be able to do that

0:20:510:20:55

with energy. So when you add it

together how much extra borrowing

0:20:550:21:00

will you need to do?

It's impossible

to say. Can you tell me what the

0:21:000:21:03

cost of the water companies will be

in 2022?

I can tell you what the

0:21:030:21:07

cost is now, they've a market cap

and there could be an election next

0:21:070:21:11

year. You are on election footing,

you could be implementing this next

0:21:110:21:16

year, you must have a ball park

figure to know you are going to have

0:21:160:21:19

to go to the bond markets to borrow

all of this, we are already

0:21:190:21:22

borrowing a ton of money. We have 1.

8 trillion of national debt. How

0:21:220:21:26

much more would you borrow?

You

can't put a figure on that at the

0:21:260:21:29

moment. It's not possible to do it.

It's a menu without prices?

The

0:21:290:21:35

point being you are acquiring an

asset and you have that, it's a

0:21:350:21:39

neutral transaction and you are

getting income from that asset.

0:21:390:21:42

People are sick and tired of getting

ripped off by energy companies. They

0:21:420:21:50

want gas coming into the cooker,

they want to switch the light on.

0:21:500:21:54

You may be acquiring the asset but

you are borrowing to acquire that

0:21:540:21:58

asset and I am asking how much will

you have to borrow to do so?

You

0:21:580:22:02

can't say. John's given a clear

answer.

He's not given an answer at

0:22:020:22:06

all.

He has addressed it

fundamentally. It's the principles

0:22:060:22:10

of acquiring the asset. It will cost

what it costs, it's a question of

0:22:100:22:15

negotiation at the relevant time. We

are not in Government, Andrew.

You

0:22:150:22:19

could well be in Government within

the next six months.

Yes.

That's why

0:22:190:22:23

your party is on an election

footing. At the very least you are

0:22:230:22:26

going to borrow £25 billion a year

for infrastructure spending, could

0:22:260:22:31

be another 20, 25 billion for...

You

get a return, if you are investing

0:22:310:22:34

in infrastructure, you know that you

get a benefit cost ratio that grows

0:22:340:22:39

our economy, grows our tax...

Grows

the economy, you don't get that

0:22:390:22:43

money back.

Of course...

You don't

get the money back into the

0:22:430:22:49

Government coffers. All the economic

growth? ?

People employed, being

0:22:490:22:54

more product yut.

How do you know it

will cost, you still have to cover

0:22:540:23:00

the cost of borrowing.

You do, you

also have an income stream from the

0:23:000:23:05

assets you have acquired. It works

through.

With that income stream on

0:23:050:23:11

all these industries you said to

nationalise, you said the consumer

0:23:110:23:15

is being ripped off, so you are

going to cut prices, that will

0:23:150:23:18

reduce the income stream. For a

start. Hold on.

Don't you think...

0:23:180:23:25

You cannot slash prices, increase

investment, and pay the interest on

0:23:250:23:28

the debt. How could you do that?

Lifting people out of inequality and

0:23:280:23:32

poverty.

Answer the question.

That's

the fundamental. When people are

0:23:320:23:36

getting ripped off...

You are

falling back on rhetoric. I am

0:23:360:23:39

asking you...

It's more than

rhetoric.

It is, because everybody

0:23:390:23:43

will be poorer if you can't finance

this debt. And you can't get the

0:23:430:23:47

bonds away. So I ask again, how can

you slash prices as you promised to

0:23:470:23:53

do, increase investment and generate

the revenue that is will finance and

0:23:530:23:57

service the debt? How can you do

that?

If you don't have shareholders

0:23:570:24:02

to owe way and -- obey and serve,

you have an asset in that hand. You

0:24:020:24:07

have the borrowing to acquire the

asset and the revenue stream comes

0:24:070:24:10

in. It's not difficult.

You have

bond holders. You will have bond

0:24:100:24:14

holders whose debt you will have to

service.

Yes.

And if you cannot do

0:24:140:24:20

that well, or you issue too many,

the bond prices will collapse and

0:24:200:24:25

they will dump the bonds. So you

have to service the debt.

You have

0:24:250:24:28

to get it right. You have to get the

price of it right.

Really.

We can't

0:24:280:24:32

get that discussion here and now

about what the precision of this is

0:24:320:24:34

going to be. It's impossible. But

the basic principle is utterly

0:24:340:24:39

sound. It's one that we will follow

in Government.

Our viewers will

0:24:390:24:41

decide.

0:24:410:24:45

Now, we know Her Majesty's

had an tiring week,

0:24:450:24:47

just scrolling to the bottom

of Meghan Markle's Instagram must

0:24:470:24:50

have taken at least four days.

0:24:500:24:51

But we also know there's nothing

that'll relax her like a gin

0:24:510:24:54

and dubonnet in front of the TV

watching Daily Politics

0:24:540:24:57

and Prime Minister's Questions.

0:24:570:25:01

We know she does that, God bless

you, maam.

0:25:010:25:10

And she's not the only famous viewer

who can't get enough of Britain's

0:25:100:25:11

he really liked PMQs -

in particular the verbose

0:25:120:25:15

rebukes provided by Commons

Speaker John Bercow.

0:25:150:25:18

Here's Liam revelling

in in the debate.

0:25:180:25:22

All we can say is that if a Rock

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0:25:220:25:27

and enjoy Mr Bercow's lengthy

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the latest Masterplan

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It's coming up to midday here,

just take a look at Big Ben,

0:27:470:27:50

and that can mean only one thing...

0:27:500:27:52

Yes, Prime Minister's

Questions is on its way.

0:27:520:27:58

It will be interesting given what's

happening. Here to set the scene is

0:27:580:28:02

Laura Kuenssberg. I understand the

Prime Minister has spoken to Arlene

0:28:020:28:07

Foster of the DUP in Belfast, I

assume she was?

They have, they have

0:28:070:28:11

finally had the promised phone call,

there has not as I understand it

0:28:110:28:14

been much progress. I don't think

the phone call has changed the

0:28:140:28:17

situation. It is still possible

there could be progress by the

0:28:170:28:21

weekend. It is still also possible

that there will not. As one DUP

0:28:210:28:25

source said to me yesterday, our

approach to deadlines is always they

0:28:250:28:29

are there to be broken. Which of

course is not the approach that the

0:28:290:28:32

Government has taken or the EU has

taken in all of this. As I

0:28:320:28:36

understand it, there is still some

distance between the two sides. By

0:28:360:28:41

having had the conversation it will

at least save the Prime Minister

0:28:410:28:45

have the embarrassment of being

asked have you spoken, even spoken

0:28:450:28:51

to your ally Arlene Foster and

having to say no, which would have

0:28:510:28:56

been a humiliating moment.

Let's

hope Corbyn's people are on the

0:28:560:29:00

ball. He can't avoid this now, can

he? It would be strange if he

0:29:000:29:04

didn't. Historically, we have often

been surprised that he hasn't chosen

0:29:040:29:07

to talk about Brexit. Of course

Labour's own divisions confusions

0:29:070:29:13

their critics would say on the

departure of the European Union are

0:29:130:29:16

often what have held him back from

this subject. Last week he did go on

0:29:160:29:21

it and if he doesn't today given the

scale of the events of the last 72

0:29:210:29:25

hours that would be strange. It's

not like he hasn't got any material.

0:29:250:29:30

Have you got to the bottom yet of

why the Government, number 10

0:29:300:29:36

Downing Street, did not run this

draft agreement past the DUP before

0:29:360:29:40

preparing to sign it?

There are a

variety of reasons here. I am told

0:29:400:29:47

that the Chief Whip on Monday

morning had told Theresa May that he

0:29:470:29:50

believed the DUP was squared off.

That's something that hasn't been

0:29:500:29:54

officially confirmed but I am told

that conversation took place. I am

0:29:540:29:58

also told that they believed and the

DUP had believed also that the level

0:29:580:30:02

of communication between the two

sides was quite good, certainly at

0:30:020:30:06

the end of last week they felt that

they had been in the loop, they were

0:30:060:30:11

feeling that things were kept from

them, but over the sort of frantic

0:30:110:30:15

course of the weekend of the

officialdom doing it, somehow they

0:30:150:30:21

seem to have slipped out of the

loop. Now people close to David

0:30:210:30:25

Davis would say he was frozen out of

the process, it was being done by

0:30:250:30:30

officials, by Number 10. But clearly

there was not that level of

0:30:300:30:33

political oversight because again it

is suggested that he would have seen

0:30:330:30:35

it would have been a problem for the

DUP. Classically in this kind of

0:30:350:30:41

situation he is responsible for the

department that's meant to be

0:30:410:30:43

delivering Brexit and Theresa May is

the one directing the officials in

0:30:430:30:46

Number 10. So ultimately there

was...

Also the one that did the

0:30:460:30:51

deal with the DUP. She put this

coalition together. Does she know

0:30:510:30:56

what you stands for in DUP? This was

almost certain to be like a red rag

0:30:560:31:00

to a bull to the DUP.

The curious

thing about it is how, from the

0:31:000:31:06

DUP's side, their belief is the

whole premise of the final text was

0:31:060:31:10

wrong-headed, it comes at it from

saying Northern Ireland and the EU

0:31:100:31:13

will have a different relationship.

It's a broad understanding of the

0:31:130:31:16

document to the rest of the UK. To

them that's always going to be an

0:31:160:31:21

anathema. Anything that appears to

pull them closer to Dublin away from

0:31:210:31:25

Westminster and the rest of the UK,

that's not on. Seems like a real

0:31:250:31:31

oversight.

What bit of politics in

GCSE did Downing Street not get?

0:31:310:31:38

There is an interesting dilemma here

and a few Tory MPs I have spoken to

0:31:380:31:41

the last couple of days have been

making that point. The new and

0:31:410:31:46

improved number ten sten is more

efficient than at the start of this

0:31:460:31:51

session but are missing a very

important element of political

0:31:510:31:54

oversight and it may well they were

so franticly focussing on trying to

0:31:540:31:58

get the deal done this week because

it's hugely important to them, that

0:31:580:32:02

they miscalculated but I have been

told conversation is happening with

0:32:020:32:05

senior MPs and Number 10 at the

start of this week and on Monday

0:32:050:32:09

through the day when it became clear

this was unravelling being told this

0:32:090:32:13

is not going to fly and Number 10

sources saying to those MPs it will

0:32:130:32:17

be fine, we think we can sell it.

They couldn't even sell it their

0:32:170:32:25

their own allies.

It's such a fly in

the ointment. I have read this

0:32:250:32:29

15-page agreement now. On the money

she could sell that to the

0:32:290:32:33

Brexiteers. There is no upfront lump

sum. It is spread out over a number

0:32:330:32:38

of years.

And this is the key thing,

through Cabinet.

On the EU

0:32:380:32:44

citizenship it is that the British

courts can consult with the ECJ,

0:32:440:32:47

take into account some of the

rulings. It's not a mandate that the

0:32:470:32:51

ECJ has to be involved. On this

final one in which the DUP was more

0:32:510:32:58

interested than anything else, for

the reasons you have given for the

0:32:580:33:02

status, she doesn't do it. It's

amazing. Let's see what Jeremy

0:33:020:33:06

Corbyn can find out about it.

0:33:060:33:10

The question tabled by the

honourable member for Lichfield,

0:33:170:33:23

relating to economic performance and

public services in the West

0:33:230:33:27

Midlands, question five, has in Eire

been omitted from the printed copies

0:33:270:33:36

of the order paper. -- has been in

error. A corrigendum has been made

0:33:360:33:54

available in the vote office, and

copies are on the table. Order,

0:33:540:34:04

questions to the Prime Minister.

Ruth George.

Thank you, question

0:34:040:34:09

number one.

The Prime Minister.

0:34:090:34:13

Mr Speaker, I'm sure the whole house

will wish to join me in offering

0:34:180:34:22

condolences to the family, friends

and colleagues of police constable

0:34:220:34:26

James Dixon from Thames Valley

Police, who was killed while on

0:34:260:34:30

motorcycle duty yesterday, and also

to the family and friends of the

0:34:300:34:36

passenger car involved in the

collision. I'm sure the House would

0:34:360:34:39

like to join me in offering

condolences to family and friends of

0:34:390:34:43

the former member of this house who

was a former miner and strong voice

0:34:430:34:49

of Lanarkshire in this place for

nearly 30 years. This morning I had

0:34:490:34:53

meetings with ministerial colleagues

and others, and I shall have further

0:34:530:34:58

such meetings later today.

Ruth

George.

0:34:580:35:03

My constituent Kate has run a

successful nursery for over 14

0:35:030:35:07

years, but after two months on the

Government's funding for three and

0:35:070:35:11

four-year-old she says she can't

make it work, she's having to sell

0:35:110:35:14

her home to pay her staff

redundancies. Over 1000 nurseries

0:35:140:35:19

have already closed and 58% say they

cannot continue. If nurseries close,

0:35:190:35:25

parents can't work. Please will the

Prime Minister meet with me and

0:35:250:35:28

nursery owners to discuss such

widespread and critical problems?

0:35:280:35:35

Well, I can say to the honourable

lady that I have indeed recently met

0:35:350:35:39

with some nursery owners looking at

this issue, and they've given a very

0:35:390:35:42

clear message that actually there

are parts of the country where Local

0:35:420:35:46

Authorities are operating the system

very efficiently are very well and

0:35:460:35:49

there are parts of the country where

that is not happening. Of course,

0:35:490:35:52

what underpins this is the decision

taken by this government to improve

0:35:520:35:56

the childcare offer for parents, so

that they actually have a better

0:35:560:36:01

opportunity and ensure their

children get the childcare they

0:36:010:36:04

need.

Will the Prime Minister give a quick

0:36:040:36:11

update on the Brexit negotiations

and does she agree with me that post

0:36:110:36:14

Brexit...

LAUGHTER

It's crucial that we enhance skills

0:36:140:36:20

and apprenticeships in the

construction housing sector and does

0:36:200:36:22

she agree that now is not the time

for the construction training board

0:36:220:36:27

to be proposing to close their site

in West Norfolk, putting at risk 600

0:36:270:36:33

jobs in a rural area? Will she make

me to discuss this and will she help

0:36:330:36:36

me in my campaign?

Can I say to my honourable friend

0:36:360:36:42

that he is a great champion for his

constituency. He's been a great

0:36:420:36:45

supporter of the CI TB at Birch. I'm

happy to support his campaign, I

0:36:450:36:53

wish him well and I'm happy to meet

him. He asked about Brexit and, of

0:36:530:36:57

course, what we're doing in the

Brexit negotiations is ensuring we

0:36:570:37:01

can indeed build those houses and

build that country for the future

0:37:010:37:04

that we to seek, and the principles

we are working to our that the text

0:37:040:37:11

that is currently being discussed is

a report on the progress of

0:37:110:37:15

negotiations, on which basis the

European Commission will decide

0:37:150:37:18

whether sufficient progress has been

made and we can move onto the next

0:37:180:37:22

stage of talks. It is for those

future talks to agree precisely how

0:37:220:37:27

we ensure cross-border trade, while

maintaining constitutional integrity

0:37:270:37:31

of the United Kingdom. We are

leaving the European Union, the

0:37:310:37:35

singles market on the customs union.

But we will do, we will do what is

0:37:350:37:44

right in the interests of the whole

of the United Kingdom, and nothing

0:37:440:37:49

is agreed until everything is

agreed.

Jeremy Corbyn.

0:37:490:37:54

Thank you, Mr Speaker. I joined the

Prime Minister in offering

0:37:540:38:02

condolences to the police officer

and passenger who lost their lives

0:38:020:38:06

yesterday and in paying tribute to

Jimmy Hood, he was a good friend of

0:38:060:38:12

all of us, and he was a great

fighter for the coal industry and

0:38:120:38:15

the mine workers union during the

strike and after that, during his

0:38:150:38:18

time here. We thank Jimmy for his

work in the labour movement.

0:38:180:38:25

Mr Speaker, in July, the

international trade Secretary said

0:38:250:38:29

Brexit negotiations would be the

easiest in human history. Does the

0:38:290:38:34

Prime Minister still agree with that

assessment?

LAUGHTER

0:38:340:38:38

I am very pleased to report to the

right gentleman, as I've just said,

0:38:380:38:44

negotiations are in progress and

very good progress has been made.

0:38:440:38:53

But... What my right honourable

friend has been focusing on is the

0:38:530:39:05

trade negotiations for the future,

and indeed, because we are already a

0:39:050:39:09

member of the European Union, when

we leave we will not be at the same

0:39:090:39:13

basis, like Canada was in

negotiating a trade agreement, and

0:39:130:39:19

we do expect that be will get a deal

that is right for the whole of the

0:39:190:39:22

United Kingdom. What we need to do

to be able to do that is to move on

0:39:220:39:26

to phase two, and if he is so

concerned about easing negotiations,

0:39:260:39:31

why did his MPs vote against us

being able to do that?

0:39:310:39:34

Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister can

always look behind herself. Mr

0:39:340:39:40

Speaker, she hasn't, she hasn't

succeeded in convincing many people

0:39:400:39:46

and yesterday on Tory donor told the

papers and I quote, "Yesterday

0:39:460:39:53

proved beyond doubt that the Prime

Minister is not only weak but it's

0:39:530:39:56

her incompetence that is hobbling

the UK." And he wasn't very kind

0:39:560:40:02

about the rest of her from bench

either, describing them as a bunch

0:40:020:40:08

of jellyfish masquerading as a

cabinet.

0:40:080:40:13

Mr Speaker, this is... This is truly

a coalition, this is truly a

0:40:130:40:19

coalition of chaos. At the start of

the week, it all seemed to be going

0:40:190:40:22

so well. The Prime Minister had

scheduled a lunch with Jean-Claude

0:40:220:40:27

Juncker followed by a press

conference and then to triumphantly

0:40:270:40:30

returned to the House to present her

deal.

0:40:300:40:35

Order, order. Let me make it clear

for the umpteenth time, no, order. I

0:40:350:40:39

know what's going on, I can look

after these matters. No one in this

0:40:390:40:46

chamber is going to be shouted down.

It will not happen, and if people

0:40:460:40:51

think they can sit where I can't see

them and make a raucous noise

0:40:510:40:57

they're very foolish. I know where

they are and I know what they're up

0:40:570:41:00

to, and it's not going to work. End

of subject.

Jeremy Corbyn.

0:41:000:41:06

Thank you, Mr Speaker. On her way

back to Britain, someone forgot to

0:41:060:41:10

share the details of the Irish

border deal with the DUP. Surely

0:41:100:41:18

there are 1.5 billion reasons why

the Prime Minister really shouldn't,

0:41:180:41:24

shouldn't have forgotten to do that.

I think it was a little difficult to

0:41:240:41:34

detect the question is that

interruption. Let me say to the

0:41:340:41:42

right honourable gentleman, as

President Jean-Claude Juncker said

0:41:420:41:43

Monday, there are still a few things

we are negotiating on... LAUGHTER

0:41:430:41:47

And he is confident, he is confident

that we will be able to achieve

0:41:470:41:54

sufficient progress. But if he wants

to wonder about plans for

0:41:540:41:58

negotiations, perhaps he should look

at his own front bench! The Shadow

0:41:580:42:05

Chancellor used to say staying in

the single market was not respecting

0:42:050:42:09

the referendum. Now he says it's on

the table. The shade -- shadow trade

0:42:090:42:19

secretary used to say staying in the

customs union was very unattractive,

0:42:190:42:23

now he says it is not off the table.

We now know from the Shadow

0:42:230:42:28

Chancellor what their approach

really is, it's not having a plan at

0:42:280:42:32

all, because when asked what the

Labour Party plan was, the Shadow

0:42:320:42:37

Chancellor said, well, that's

difficult for us. As we all know,

0:42:370:42:42

the only thing the Labour Party is

planning for is a runner on the

0:42:420:42:45

pound.

Jeremy Corbyn.

Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister was

0:42:450:42:53

unable to support her Brexit

secretary when he tried to explain a

0:42:530:42:56

deal was supposed to be done in

October but still hasn't been done

0:42:560:43:00

by December. The leader of the DUP

told Irish television she only got

0:43:000:43:04

sight of the deal on Monday morning,

five weeks after she first asked for

0:43:040:43:10

it. Two months after the original

deadline for the first phase of

0:43:100:43:14

talks and after Monday's shambles,

is the Prime Minister now, now able

0:43:140:43:20

to end the confusion and clearly

outlined what the Government was my

0:43:200:43:24

position is now, with regard to the

Irish border?

0:43:240:43:29

I'm very happy to outline the

position that I've taken on the

0:43:290:43:32

Irish border with Northern Ireland.

It is exactly the same position that

0:43:320:43:38

I took in the Lancaster House

speech, that I took in the Florence

0:43:380:43:43

speech, that we have taken

consistently in the negotiations,

0:43:430:43:48

which is that we will ensure there

is no hard border between Northern

0:43:480:43:51

Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

We will do that while we respect the

0:43:510:43:58

constitutional integrity of the

United Kingdom. And while we respect

0:43:580:44:05

the internal market and protect the

internal market of the United

0:44:050:44:08

Kingdom. Those Labour members who

shout "How?", that's the whole point

0:44:080:44:17

of the second phase of the

negotiations... Because we will

0:44:170:44:23

deliver this, we aim to deliver this

is part of our overall trade deal

0:44:230:44:29

between the United Kingdom and the

European Union, and we can only talk

0:44:290:44:35

about that when we get into phase

two. We have a plan, he has none.

0:44:350:44:41

Jeremy Corbyn.

18 months after the referendum, the

0:44:410:44:46

Prime Minister is unable to answer

the question. And on Monday, and on

0:44:460:44:53

Monday, as she thought she was

coming here to make a statement, it

0:44:530:44:57

was vetoed by the leader of the DUP,

the tale really is wagging the dog

0:44:570:45:05

here. Mr Speaker, the Brexit

secretary told the BBC's Andrew Marr

0:45:050:45:15

programme in June, "In my job I

don't think out loud and I don't

0:45:150:45:19

make guesses. I try and make

decisions. You make those based on

0:45:190:45:25

data, the data is being gathered, we

have 50, nearly 60 sector analyses

0:45:250:45:34

done." The House voted to see the

analyses but today the Brexit

0:45:340:45:38

secretary told the select committee

they don't exist. Can the Prime

0:45:380:45:41

Minister put us out of our misery,

do they exist or don't they, have

0:45:410:45:45

they done the work or haven't they?

That is surely one question she can

0:45:450:45:49

answer after 18 months.

Can I make a gentle suggestion to

0:45:490:45:56

the Leader of the Opposition? He

asked me a question on the Northern

0:45:560:46:03

Irish border, I answered the

question. He then stood up and said

0:46:030:46:08

I had answered the question. Perhaps

he should listen to the answers that

0:46:080:46:11

I give. The House requested, as I

understand it, 58 sectoral impact

0:46:110:46:22

assessments. There were no 58

sectoral impact assessment. There

0:46:220:46:28

was sectoral analysis, over 800

pages of sectoral analysis has been

0:46:280:46:33

published and made available to the

select committee and arrangements

0:46:330:46:37

have been made available for members

of this house to see it. We are very

0:46:370:46:42

clear that we will not give a

running commentary on negotiations,

0:46:420:46:46

but what we will do, what we will do

is work for what this country wants.

0:46:460:46:54

We will ensure we leave the European

Union in March 2019. We will leave

0:46:540:47:00

the internal market, we will leave

the customs union at the same time,

0:47:000:47:04

and we will ensure there is no hard

border between Northern Ireland and

0:47:040:47:08

the Republic of Ireland when we do

it.

0:47:080:47:09

Jeremy Corbyn.

Mr Speaker, this really is a

0:47:090:47:14

shambles. All they've done... All

they've done is offered a heavily

0:47:140:47:22

redacted abbreviated version that

has not been widely shared, and the

0:47:220:47:29

Brexit secretary said in September,

Mr Speaker, that 50 billion divorce

0:47:290:47:35

payment was complete nonsense. The

Foreign Secretary rejected any

0:47:350:47:38

payment and said the EU could go

whistle, so can the Prime Minister

0:47:380:47:44

put before the House a fully

itemised account that could be

0:47:440:47:49

independently audited by the Office

for Budget Responsibility and the

0:47:490:47:53

National Audit Office on any

proposed payment?

0:47:530:47:55

We are at the point of progressing

to the next stage. Snog agreed until

0:47:590:48:03

everything is agreed. So the final

settlement won't be agreed until we

0:48:030:48:06

have actually got the whole of the

deal agreed. But I have to say to

0:48:060:48:11

the right honourable gentleman, he's

asked me questions earlier about

0:48:110:48:14

hard borders, half the Labour Party

wants to stay in the single market,

0:48:140:48:17

half the Labour Party wants to leave

the single market. The only hard

0:48:170:48:20

border around is right down the

middle of the Labour Party.

0:48:200:48:29

18 months since the referendum, no

answers to the questions. Today,

0:48:290:48:35

they haven't yet concluded phase

one. No answers to the questions.

0:48:350:48:40

And the DUP appear to be ruling the

roost and telling her what to do.

0:48:400:48:48

Whether it's Brexit, the National

Health Service, social care, our

0:48:480:48:51

rip-off railways, rising child

poverty, growing pensioner poverty,

0:48:510:48:56

or universe credit, this Government,

this Government is unable to solve

0:48:560:49:01

important issues facing this

country. In fact, it's making them

0:49:010:49:04

worse. The economy is slowing. More

people in poverty. Brexit

0:49:040:49:11

negotiations in a shambles. This

Government is clearly not fit for

0:49:110:49:15

the future. If they can't negotiate

a good deal, wouldn't it be better

0:49:150:49:20

if they just got out of the way?

Can

I say to the right honourable

0:49:200:49:29

gentleman, week in and week out, he

comes to this House making promises

0:49:290:49:35

that he knows he can't deliver. And

they keep doing it. At the election

0:49:350:49:39

he told students they would write

off their student debt. Then he said

0:49:390:49:44

I did not commit to write off the

debt. What are the Labour Party

0:49:440:49:49

doing? They're putting around

leaflets which say Labour will

0:49:490:49:56

cancel xooising student debt. --

existing. It's time the right

0:49:560:50:01

honourable gentleman apologises for

grossly misleading Labour leaflets.

0:50:010:50:06

Order. Order! Closed question,

MrMichael Fabricant.

Question five.

0:50:060:50:18

Prime Minister.

I am pleased to say

that employment in the West Midlands

0:50:180:50:24

has risen by 198,000 since the 2010

election. And in the budget my right

0:50:240:50:29

honourable friend the Chancellor

confirmed people living and working

0:50:290:50:32

in the West Midlands will benefit

from second devolution deal and a

0:50:320:50:39

£250 million allocation for regional

transport projects.

The devolution

0:50:390:50:45

deal, the budget, and now the

establishment of the national

0:50:450:50:51

battery R and D centre in the West

Midlands puts the whole region at

0:50:510:50:55

the very heart of European

autonomous drive and electric drive

0:50:550:50:59

cars. So will my right honourable

friend commit to continue to support

0:50:590:51:05

this important industry and will she

make a very important promise to me?

0:51:050:51:11

Yes. Will she get rid of that gas

guzzler Jagielka of hers -- Jaquar

0:51:110:51:23

and get a modern one from the West

Midlands, because we are the party

0:51:230:51:28

of the future, not the old Labour

Party danosaurs opposite.

Perhaps I

0:51:280:51:39

could just...

Perhaps I could just let my

0:51:390:51:43

honourable friend know that, sadly,

the Jaguar Number 10 Downing Street

0:51:430:51:48

is not mine. But my honourable

friend is absolutely right, that the

0:51:480:51:52

West Midlands is at the heart of

this important industry. We are

0:51:520:51:55

investing £31 million in the West

Midlands for the development of

0:51:550:52:00

testing infrastructure for connected

and autonomous vehicles and we will

0:52:000:52:03

also build on the West Midlands

expertise and self driving cars as

0:52:030:52:07

we invest a further £5 million in an

initial test bed and I certainly

0:52:070:52:12

look forward to seeing this

technology developing further.

Can I

0:52:120:52:18

associate myself with the remarks of

the Prime Minister regarding the

0:52:180:52:22

late Jimmy Hood and pass on

condolences to his family and

0:52:220:52:25

friends. I am sure the House will

want to join me in welcoming Billy

0:52:250:52:29

Irvine, one of the Chennai six who

has arrived back in Scotland this

0:52:290:52:34

morning. Now we know that the deal

that was done with the DUP to keep

0:52:340:52:39

the Prime Minister in office gave

the DUP a veto over Brexit. It is

0:52:390:52:45

embarrassing that it was being

briefed on Monday morning that the

0:52:450:52:49

Prime Minister had a deal, only to

take this off the table after a call

0:52:490:52:53

with the DUP. Is this the Prime

Minister who is in office but not in

0:52:530:53:00

power?

What we are doing is working

for a deal that will work for the

0:53:000:53:07

whole of the United Kingdom. There

are particular circumstances for

0:53:070:53:10

Northern Ireland because it is the

one part of the United Kingdom that

0:53:100:53:13

shares a land border with a country

that will be remaining in the

0:53:130:53:16

European Union. But as we look ahead

and during the negotiations as the

0:53:160:53:21

honourable gentleman will know, we

are consulting and talking with all

0:53:210:53:24

parts of the United Kingdom, with

the Welsh Government and the

0:53:240:53:27

Scottish Government, and we want to

ensure that we get the right deal

0:53:270:53:31

for the UK and that's the deal that

I have set out, we will be leaving

0:53:310:53:35

the European Union, we will be

leaving the single market, leaving

0:53:350:53:38

the customs union, but we will

ensure that we get that good trade

0:53:380:53:43

deal for the future.

The clock is

ticking. We need a deal that keeps

0:53:430:53:48

us in the single market and the

customs union. To do otherwise will

0:53:480:53:53

devastate our economy and cost jobs.

Will the Prime Minister recognise

0:53:530:53:56

that such a deal will resolve the

Irish border question and protect

0:53:560:54:01

jobs throughout the UK, anything

less will be a failure of

0:54:010:54:04

leadership.

I have to say to the

right honourable gentleman that he

0:54:040:54:08

continues to washing up -- bark up

the wrong tree. We are leaving the

0:54:080:54:11

European Union, that means we will

be leaving the single market and the

0:54:110:54:16

customs union. We will take back and

we will ensure that we can go trade

0:54:160:54:20

deals around the rest of the world

and that will be important for us

0:54:200:54:23

and it's important, he references

jobs, it will be important in

0:54:230:54:27

ensuring jobs in this country. We

will get a good deal on trade and

0:54:270:54:31

security because this isn't just

about trade for our future

0:54:310:54:34

relationship. I set out in my

Florence speech the deep and special

0:54:340:54:38

partnership we want to continue to

have with the European Union. That

0:54:380:54:41

is about a trade deal that ensures

jobs and prosperity across the whole

0:54:410:54:45

of the United Kingdom.

I politely

observe that the front bench

0:54:450:54:51

exchanges have absorbed a

disproportionately large share of

0:54:510:54:52

time. I am determined to accommodate

backbenchers who are waiting to ask

0:54:520:54:59

questions.

Thank you. The bottleneck

on the A417 continues to cause

0:54:590:55:06

dreadful accidents and traffic

misery in Gloucestershire. Now

0:55:060:55:08

following the leadership of the

Transport Secretary and the support

0:55:080:55:11

of Gloucestershire honourable

members the vital consultation stage

0:55:110:55:14

of the short listed improvement

proposals will begin shortly. Does

0:55:140:55:17

my right honourable friend back the

scheme and does she agree by

0:55:170:55:21

committing hundreds of millions of

pounds for this crucial project that

0:55:210:55:25

Government is backing the

Gloucestershire economy?

Thank you.

0:55:250:55:28

I know my honourable friend has been

working tirelessly on this

0:55:280:55:32

particular issue and I understand

concerns and frustrations that

0:55:320:55:35

drivers in his constituency and

elsewhere have about this vital

0:55:350:55:39

strategic road for, not just

Gloucestershire but the wider region

0:55:390:55:41

as well. I am happy to assure him we

are backing the development of the

0:55:410:55:48

multimillion pound roundabout scheme

announced in 2014. A consultation

0:55:480:55:52

will begin shortly. So we can

develop the right solution to tackle

0:55:520:55:56

this pinch point and continue this

support which as he says is good for

0:55:560:56:02

the whole of Gloucestershire's

economy.

The Prime Minister has been

0:56:020:56:05

unable to provide us with a single

plausible Brexit scenario that will

0:56:050:56:10

meet her red lines, and be

acceptable to the Cabinet, Ireland

0:56:100:56:14

and the DUP. Isn't it therefore time

that she either dropped her red

0:56:140:56:18

lines, the DUP, or the pretence she

can govern this country.

I have to

0:56:180:56:24

say to the honourable lady she's

completely wrong, this Government

0:56:240:56:27

has published a number of documents

which set out various option that is

0:56:270:56:30

can be taken forward in relation to

the trade relation for the future,

0:56:300:56:35

that address the question of the

customs relationship in relation to

0:56:350:56:39

customs, address the issue of the

Northern Ireland border. We have

0:56:390:56:42

already published those proposals.

They're not part in detail - those

0:56:420:56:45

details are not part of the

negotiations at the moment. They

0:56:450:56:47

will become part of the negotiations

when we move on to phase two.

When

0:56:470:56:57

the British people voted to leave

the European superstate they voted

0:56:570:57:01

to end the free movement of people,

they voted to stop sending billions

0:57:010:57:05

of pounds to the EU each and every

year. They voted to make our laws in

0:57:050:57:12

our own country judged by our own

judges. Prime Minister, are we on

0:57:120:57:17

course still to deliver that? If we

have a problem, would it help if I

0:57:170:57:21

came over to Brussels with you to

sort them out?

0:57:210:57:34

Well, I say to my honourable friend

I am always happy to spend time in

0:57:350:57:39

his company and I hope his petition

on chicken farms went down well the

0:57:390:57:45

other evening. The answer is yes, we

are on course to deliver what the

0:57:450:57:48

people of this country voted for

when they voted to leave the

0:57:480:57:52

European Union.

Will the Prime

Minister support new transpen nine

0:57:520:57:58

rail links, namely high speed three,

but also the restoration of the

0:57:580:58:02

Skipton coal link which as well as

providing an economic boast to pen

0:58:020:58:06

nine towns has the additional merit

of starting in the Government Chief

0:58:060:58:12

Whip's constituency.

Can I say to

the honourable gentleman that we are

0:58:120:58:17

of course looking very seriously and

have been supporting with this

0:58:170:58:20

concept of the railway. We are

waiting as I understand it for

0:58:200:58:24

specific proposals to be brought

forward and we will look at those

0:58:240:58:29

proposals seriously.

I am sure the

whole House is aware that 40 years

0:58:290:58:34

ago today this House came together

and voted for a new charity,

0:58:340:58:40

mobility charity which has

transformed the lives of disabled

0:58:400:58:42

people and their families. Would the

Prime Minister agree that - it

0:58:420:58:49

should be carried forward and gives

a golden opportunity for disabled

0:58:490:58:53

people to get into the workplace and

enjoy things everybody else does in

0:58:530:58:57

this country.

I am grateful to my

right honourable friend for marking

0:58:570:59:02

the whoth anniversary of mobility in

this way and I am happy to join him

0:59:020:59:06

in marking that and I am looking

forward to becoming a senior patron,

0:59:060:59:09

they do excellent work for people in

enabling them to stay mobile and

0:59:090:59:13

active and there are more people

with a mobility car today than there

0:59:130:59:19

were in 2010. Can I also wish my

right honourable friend well as I

0:59:190:59:23

understand he will be going to the

Palace tomorrow to receive his

0:59:230:59:28

knighthood.

Thank you. Prime

Minister, in light of the news today

0:59:280:59:34

and the reported terrorist threat on

the Prime Minister and others, can I

0:59:340:59:38

assure her of our prayers for her

and Her Majesty's Government on this

0:59:380:59:41

side of the House and thank the

security forces for their sterling

0:59:410:59:45

efforts. Prime Minister, can you

give us specific commitment that

0:59:450:59:49

nothing will be done that creates

any barrier, constitutionally,

0:59:490:59:56

politically, economically, or

regulatory between Northern Ireland

0:59:560:59:57

and the rest of the United Kingdom?

Can I thank the honourable gentleman

0:59:571:00:02

for the remarks that he made. Can I

say to him the simple answer to his

1:00:021:00:06

question is yes. He will know as

other members of this House will,

1:00:061:00:10

that there are already areas where

there are specific arrangements

1:00:101:00:14

between Northern Ireland and the

Republic of Ireland, for example,

1:00:141:00:18

the single energy market that exists

between the Republic of Ireland and

1:00:181:00:22

Northern Ireland. But we want to

ensure that there is no hard border,

1:00:221:00:25

that is exactly what we are working

for. We are also working to respect

1:00:251:00:30

the constitutional integrity of the

United Kingdom and protect the

1:00:301:00:35

internal market of the United

Kingdom and I think we share those

1:00:351:00:39

aims.

The Prime Minister will be

aware of citizens advice Scotland

1:00:391:00:46

report issued yesterday that said in

Scotland up to a million consumers

1:00:461:00:51

pay on average 30% more to have

parcels delivered than the rest of

1:00:511:00:56

the country: In my constitute at

this time there is a huge issue

1:00:561:00:59

where ridiculous prices are put on

to deliver. In some cases companies

1:00:591:01:03

refuse to deliver at all. Can my

right honourable friend tell me what

1:01:031:01:07

the UK Government can do with myself

to ensure we right this wrong once

1:01:071:01:12

and for you will.

My honourable

friend is right to raise this issue

1:01:121:01:16

and speak up on behalf of his

constituents. I am sure he knows

1:01:161:01:23

rail mail does provide a service

that includes parcel service at a

1:01:231:01:26

uniform price throughout the UK but

there are commercial issues at play

1:01:261:01:30

outside this service. But I am sure

that my right hon friend the

1:01:301:01:34

Business Secretary will be happy to

meet and discuss this issue.

The

1:01:341:01:42

recognition by Donald Trump of

Jerusalem as the capital of Israel

1:01:421:01:46

will do grave damage to the

prospects for a just and lasting

1:01:461:01:50

peace settlement with the Israelis

and Palestinians which has been

1:01:501:01:54

British and indeed American foreign

policy for decades. Was she

1:01:541:01:59

consulted about this announcement

and if so what did she say? Will she

1:01:591:02:04

hear and -- here and now clearly

condemn it?

1:02:041:02:09

Well, I say to the right honourable

gentleman that I am intending to

1:02:091:02:15

speak to President Trump about this

matter. But our position has not

1:02:151:02:22

changed. He says it's been a

long-standing position and it's also

1:02:221:02:26

a very clear one, that the status of

Jerusalem should be determined as a

1:02:261:02:30

- in a negotiated settlement between

the Israelis and the Palestinians

1:02:301:02:35

and Jerusalem should ultimately form

a shared capital between the Israeli

1:02:351:02:40

and Palestinian states. We continue

to support a two-state solution. We

1:02:401:02:44

recognise the importance of

Jerusalem and our position on that

1:02:441:02:48

has not changed.

Today

GlaxoSmithKline and many other

1:02:481:03:01

companies invested in genetics, does

my honourable friend agree

1:03:011:03:05

investment in science and research

underpins jobs and revolution in

1:03:051:03:09

medical treatment that will save

lives and give hope to many patients

1:03:091:03:13

for new treatments.

Well, I

absolutely agree with my honourable

1:03:131:03:17

friend and what she has highlighted

is a sector which is important for

1:03:171:03:21

the United Kingdom and I welcome the

investment that she has referred to.

1:03:211:03:24

That is why this is one of the

sectors that has been given

1:03:241:03:30

significance in the industrial

strategy that my right honourable

1:03:301:03:32

friend the Business Secretary has

delivered, has published, because

1:03:321:03:36

this is exactly an area where we see

there are Ben bsh -- benefits here,

1:03:361:03:42

jobs, but also improving the

treatments available to patients and

1:03:421:03:46

improving their lives.

When the

Prime Minister rings Donald Trump to

1:03:461:03:54

express our concern about his moves

concerning Jerusalem and the US

1:03:541:04:00

Embassy, will she also be informing

President Trump that we will be

1:04:001:04:05

proceeding to recognise the state of

Palestine as a central part of

1:04:051:04:11

keeping the two-state process under

way?

We want to see a negotiated

1:04:111:04:16

settlement between the Israelis and

the Palestinians, we believe that

1:04:161:04:19

should be based on a two-state

solution, that should be a Sovereign

1:04:191:04:24

and viable Palestinian state but

also a secure and safe Israel. That

1:04:241:04:28

should be a matter for negotiation

between the parties.

The whole House

1:04:281:04:36

will support what the Prime Minister

said last week in the Middle East on

1:04:361:04:40

her visit about the unfolding

humanitarian catastrophe in Yemen.

1:04:401:04:45

Will she continue to provide the

maximum amount of pressure to lift

1:04:451:04:50

both the humanitarian and the

commercial blockade and use

1:04:501:04:54

Britain's good offices at the United

Nations to secure a resumption of

1:04:541:04:58

some sort of political peace process

which is inclusive and which does

1:04:581:05:02

not have any preconditions?

Well, my

right honourable friend has raised

1:05:021:05:06

an important issue and I am sure

everybody across this House is

1:05:061:05:10

deeply concerned at the humanitarian

crisis and the spiralling crisis

1:05:101:05:13

that we have seen in the Yemen and

the lingering threat of famine

1:05:131:05:17

there. I did indeed as he said raise

my concerns when I visited Saudi

1:05:171:05:21

Arabia last week. I made it clear

that the UK's view is that we want

1:05:211:05:27

to see not just a border open for

humanitarian aid to get in but it

1:05:271:05:30

should be open for commercial

vessels as well. This is absolutely

1:05:301:05:35

crucial and important and he revenss

the need for peace talks, that is

1:05:351:05:39

our top priority. The best way to

bring a long-term solution and

1:05:391:05:43

long-term stability is to have a

political solution and we will

1:05:431:05:47

continue to support the efforts of

the UN special envoy and play a

1:05:471:05:50

leading role as he says in

diplomatic efforts to ensure a

1:05:501:05:53

political solution can be reached.

Due to the one billion deal that the

1:05:531:06:03

DUP MPs - each one is worth more

than Ronaldo. We need to consider

1:06:031:06:10

the cut to Scotland's budget, £600

million rail shortfall, the £200

1:06:101:06:18

million... And £140 million VAT

refund. Each one of the Scottish

1:06:181:06:28

Tories cost Scotland £265 million.

Can we transfer them?

I have to say

1:06:281:06:34

it's time that when he stood up for

questions he actually looked at the

1:06:341:06:38

facts. It's my Scottish Conservative

colleagues who have ensured that in

1:06:381:06:45

the budget we were able to take

steps in relation to the VAT status

1:06:451:06:50

of police Scotland and the fire

services in Scotland and he

1:06:501:06:54

obviously hadn't noticed but I am

happy to repeat as a result of this

1:06:541:07:01

budget £2 billion extra will come to

Scotland.

In 2010 the

1:07:011:07:09

Conservative-led Government set out

to reform the school curriculum to

1:07:091:07:13

give children skills they need to

succeed. Does the Prime Minister

1:07:131:07:17

agree yesterday's reading standard

results are a vindication of our

1:07:171:07:20

reforms and amazing teachers'

efforts which will allow our

1:07:201:07:23

children to forge a truly global

Britain.

Well, I thank my honourable

1:07:231:07:30

friend, she has raised an important

issue and I am happy to agree with

1:07:301:07:33

her. Yesterday we learned how the

UK's revolution in phonetics has

1:07:331:07:40

dramatically improved school

standards. I would like to pay

1:07:401:07:45

particular tribute to my honourable

friend the Minister for schools

1:07:451:07:50

standards who has worked tirelessly

to this end through his time here in

1:07:501:07:53

this House but also pay tribute to

the hard work of teachers up and

1:07:531:07:57

down the country. We have, just for

the figures, in 201258% of

1:07:571:08:04

six-year-olds passed reading checks,

this year it's 81%. We are indeed

1:08:041:08:10

building a Britain fit for the

future.

In October the Prime

1:08:101:08:14

Minister wrote an open letter saying

EU citizens living lawfully in the

1:08:141:08:18

UK today will be able to stay. But

this week my constituent was told by

1:08:181:08:25

UK she had to wait until Brexit was

done and take her chances. Can the

1:08:251:08:29

Prime Minister tell us are the EU

citizens living here just pawns in

1:08:291:08:38

the Brexit negotiations or will she

change UK operating systems to

1:08:381:08:43

ensure EU citizens can stay?

The

position on EU citizens that I set

1:08:431:08:47

out in the open letter that I sent

is the position of the United

1:08:471:08:51

Kingdom Government and I suggest to

the honourable lady if she has a

1:08:511:08:56

complaint about something said she

sends that information to the

1:08:561:09:00

immigration Minister.

Yesterday the

all-party group on cancer held its

1:09:001:09:06

annual Britain against cancer

conference, the largest one-day

1:09:061:09:09

gathering of the capser community in

the UK to launch a report on the

1:09:091:09:13

cancer strategy. We heard from the

Government and NHS England many good

1:09:131:09:16

things that were happening, there

was one issue causing real concern

1:09:161:09:20

to frontline services, and that is

the delay in the release of the

1:09:201:09:25

transformation funding to those

frontline services, with additional

1:09:251:09:28

requirement applied to the funding

after the bidding process closed.

1:09:281:09:32

Having discussed the issue with the

Secretary of State who was a jolly

1:09:321:09:37

chap, would the Prime Minister meet

with me to discuss this matter

1:09:371:09:41

further.

Well, I say to my

honourable friend of course this is

1:09:411:09:49

an important issue and we have as he

said seen great progress being made

1:09:491:09:53

in relation to this issue of

providing higher standards of cancer

1:09:531:09:56

care for all patients. Survival

records are now at a record high.

1:09:561:10:00

Around 7,000 more people are

surviving cancer after successful

1:10:001:10:05

NHS treatment compared to three

years ago. Of course we want to do

1:10:051:10:09

more in relation to this issue. He

has raised a very specific point and

1:10:091:10:14

I understand that the Department of

Health are adopting a phased

1:10:141:10:18

approach to investment as the

national cancer programme does run

1:10:181:10:20

for a further three years but I

would be happy to meet to discuss

1:10:201:10:25

this.

Contrary to her previous

answer on the subject, only the

1:10:251:10:32

Prime Minister's Government can

remove barriers to universe credit

1:10:321:10:35

for ter minutally ill people in

Scotland, England, Wales and

1:10:351:10:39

Northern Ireland. Will she answer

this question again this time, will

1:10:391:10:44

she end the cruel requirement for

people across the UK who don't want

1:10:441:10:49

to know they're dying to

self-certify on universal credit?

1:10:491:10:55

Can I say to the honourable

gentleman that I suggest that this

1:10:551:10:59

is an issue I will ask the Secretary

of State for work and pensions to

1:10:591:11:02

look at. We do want to ensure that

as knows we are working on how

1:11:021:11:07

universal credit is rolled out and

how that is dealt with in relation

1:11:071:11:11

to individuals. I am sure he will

understand that if there are

1:11:111:11:17

particular things that apply to

people and particular circumstances

1:11:171:11:20

then they can only apply if - if the

universe credit and Jobcentres are

1:11:201:11:24

aware of those circumstances but I

will ask the Department for Work and

1:11:241:11:29

Pensions to look at this.

Before my

right honourable friend next goes to

1:11:291:11:36

Brussels, will she apply a new code

of paint to her red lines because I

1:11:361:11:41

fear on Monday they were beginning

to look a little bit pink?

No, I can

1:11:411:11:48

say, happy say to my honourable

friend that the principles on which

1:11:481:11:52

this Government is negotiating were

set out in the Lancaster House

1:11:521:11:57

speech and the Florence speech and

those principles remain.

This

1:11:571:12:03

morning London MPs were briefed by

the Metropolitan Police service on

1:12:031:12:08

the grave challenge of serious youth

violence and violent crime,

1:12:081:12:11

including the scourge of scooter

assisted crime. With robbers up 30%

1:12:111:12:16

in London, the Police Service in

London faces a £400 million squeeze

1:12:161:12:20

which will drive police numbers down

to the lowest in 20 years and my own

1:12:201:12:24

Borough has already lost is 98

police officers. Does the Prime

1:12:241:12:28

Minister still think we have the

police resources we need -- 198.

I

1:12:281:12:35

would say we are not reducing the

police budget, we are protecting

1:12:351:12:39

police budgets. They were protected

in the 2015 spending review. I

1:12:391:12:43

repeat as I said in this House

before, there is more money and

1:12:431:12:47

officers or each Londoner than

anywhere else in the country. Of

1:12:471:12:49

course it is up to the Mayor of

London to decide how that budget is

1:12:491:12:54

spent. But she also raised the

important issue of scooter or moped

1:12:541:12:59

crime and I am pleased to say the

Home Secretary has held a round

1:12:591:13:02

table with police and others in the

Home Office to look at how this can

1:13:021:13:07

be better addressed.

The industrial

strategy identifies that the world

1:13:071:13:13

will need 60% more food by 2050. As

we leave the EU will the Prime

1:13:131:13:18

Minister commit to supporting our

farmers?

I am very happy to commit

1:13:181:13:24

to supporting our farmers. And in

fact markets for British food are

1:13:241:13:27

growing around the world and we want

to see those Margetts grow even

1:13:271:13:31

further. Leaving the EU means we

will have an opportunity to design a

1:13:311:13:36

new approach to agricultural policy,

one that supports our farmers to

1:13:361:13:39

grow more, to sell more and to

export more of their world-class

1:13:391:13:44

proproducts. What we will be doing

is ensuring we have an agriculture

1:13:441:13:48

policy that meets the needs of the

United Kingdom.

This week motor

1:13:481:13:57

manufacturers announced a year on

year drop in car sales of over 11%.

1:13:571:14:05

They blame confusion caused by the

Government's incoherent policy on

1:14:051:14:10

clean air and diesels, budget

measures and uncertainty caused by

1:14:101:14:15

Brexit. This industry is vital for

both the national economy and jobs

1:14:151:14:20

in the West Midlands. What is the

Government going to do to turn this

1:14:201:14:24

around?

I have to say to the

honourable gentleman that if he had

1:14:241:14:28

listened to the answer I gave and

the questions from my honourable

1:14:281:14:33

friend earlier he would have heard

how we are supporting the automotive

1:14:331:14:38

industry, supporting the future of

the industry. We recognise its

1:14:381:14:42

importance for the West Midlands and

importance for the United Kingdom

1:14:421:14:44

and that's why it's one of those

sectors that we are clear in our

1:14:441:14:47

industrial strategy that we will be

supporting so we can support those

1:14:471:14:52

jobs and prosperity for the future.

Would my right honourable friend

1:14:521:14:57

confirm she is aware of the strong

enthusiasm for free trade deals with

1:14:571:15:01

the UK from countries like Canada,

Japan, United States, Australia, and

1:15:011:15:10

even for participation in - UK

participation in the

1:15:101:15:14

transpartnership. None of these

opportunities will come our way if

1:15:141:15:18

we are shackled to regulation after

we have left the EU.

Well, I am

1:15:181:15:23

happy to say to my honourable friend

that I do recognise the enthusiasm

1:15:231:15:28

there is out there around the rest

of the world for to us do trade

1:15:281:15:31

deals with other countries. I am

happy to say that my right

1:15:311:15:35

honourable friend the trade

Secretary was in Australia recently

1:15:351:15:38

discussing these opportunities. When

I go around the world I also hear

1:15:381:15:42

the same message from a whole

variety of countries, they want to

1:15:421:15:45

do trade deals for us in the future.

What we want to do is to ensure we

1:15:451:15:49

get a good trade deal with the

European Union and the freedom to

1:15:491:15:52

negotiate these trade deals around

the rest of the world.

1:15:521:15:59

On Monday evening during the opening

speeches of the EU withdrawal bill

1:15:591:16:04

the Government bench showed its true

colours. Revealed were the imperial

1:16:041:16:10

British Government's intentions

spelled out in red, white and blue.

1:16:101:16:14

Would the Prime Minister care to

echo the chair of the Welsh affairs

1:16:141:16:19

Select Committee and I quote, it is

a power grab, and what a wonderful

1:16:191:16:24

power grab it is too or would she

admit that the scrabble to

1:16:241:16:29

repatriate powers from Brussels

provides a grubby excuse to deny our

1:16:291:16:35

democratic rights in Wales.

The

honourable lady knows full well what

1:16:351:16:41

my honourable friend was saying was

that what we will be doing when we

1:16:411:16:45

leave the European Union is grabbing

powers back from Brussels to the

1:16:451:16:51

United Kingdom. That's exactly

right. Following that we will expect

1:16:511:16:55

to see a significant increase in the

decision-making power of devolved

1:16:551:16:59

administrations. As a result of

that. That is absolutely right. If

1:16:591:17:04

Plaid Cymru are saying they want to

see powers rest in Brussels, we take

1:17:041:17:08

a different view. We want those

powers to be here in the United

1:17:081:17:11

Kingdom.

1:17:111:17:20

Will the Prime Minister join me in

wishing them every success in their

1:17:231:17:29

bid to see Stoke become the next

capital of culture for Britain?

I

1:17:291:17:35

have been very happy to visit Stoke

on Trent on a number of occasions

1:17:351:17:39

and my honourable friend is a

valiant champion for Stoke. I wish

1:17:391:17:43

them all the best. I have to say as

I have been asked about a number of

1:17:431:17:48

other bids from cities around the

United Kingdom I am sure all of

1:17:481:17:52

those cities bidding have good cases

to be recognised.

1:17:521:17:57

Thank you. Order.

1:17:571:18:02

The Prime Minister appeared in PMQs

today with her back to the wall it

1:18:081:18:14

given her failure to come to a deal

in Brussels on the uncertainty of

1:18:141:18:17

what she does next, given the DUP's

stumbling block, so it was a time

1:18:171:18:22

for some forensic questioning, to

try and ascertain what was going on

1:18:221:18:28

in what is somewhat of a crisis for

the British government. But we got a

1:18:281:18:34

series of short speeches rather than

questions, a couple of which didn't

1:18:341:18:37

end in any kind of question at all,

and in a way the Prime Minister

1:18:371:18:43

probably got off the hook as a

result. We didn't learn anything new

1:18:431:18:47

about where we go from here, did we?

Not really. As you said, this was a

1:18:471:18:53

huge opportunity, Theresa May has

had a very difficult few days but

1:18:531:18:55

there was more heat than light for

both of them. It wasn't either of

1:18:551:18:59

the finest hours there were lots of

opportunities for Jeremy Corbyn to

1:18:591:19:03

ask exactly who had known what about

the deal at exactly what point, what

1:19:031:19:08

precisely her

1:19:081:19:18

plans for the Irish border, what

exactly had she said to Arlene

1:19:271:19:29

Foster on the phone when that phone

call happened finally this morning

1:19:291:19:32

but we didn't get any of those

places. For me, what was harder for

1:19:321:19:34

the Prime Minister in a way is what

is a coordinated effort from some of

1:19:341:19:37

the Brexit is in the Tory party.

Jacob Rees-Mogg and Peter Bone

1:19:371:19:40

asking pointed questions of her

after Iain Duncan Smith turned up

1:19:401:19:42

the ante on her promises last night.

I think she would have been more

1:19:421:19:45

worried about that than what she was

getting from the Labour Party today.

1:19:451:19:47

What did you learn that you didn't

know?

I think the Prime Minister did

1:19:471:19:50

extremely well. You are right, it's

been a difficult couple of days but

1:19:501:19:53

she performed really well, was

clearly on top of the brief, got out

1:19:531:19:55

some key things on government

announcements, on things like

1:19:551:19:57

phonics and so on, which is an

important issue.

1:19:571:20:09

I'm talking about the big issue of

our times, the Brexit negotiations,

1:20:181:20:20

what did we learn that you didn't

know?

That we are confident of

1:20:201:20:23

getting a good deal next week and

moving on to the next phase of the

1:20:231:20:26

negotiations. That is what I think

we have learned.

How will that be

1:20:261:20:29

done?

It's still being talked about

at the moment, but I think we will

1:20:291:20:31

get there because it strongly on

both sides addressed are there to be

1:20:311:20:34

a deal.

The problem isn't on the

European side, they were ready to

1:20:341:20:37

sign, the problem is your side.

Is

ongoing process. I think that we

1:20:371:20:39

will get there and the Prime

Minister today defended her position

1:20:391:20:41

well.

What is the Prime Minister's

position? On this situation of

1:20:411:20:45

Northern Ireland?

That they're not

be a border with physical

1:20:451:20:50

infrastructure, that is what she

laid at Lancaster House.

What price

1:20:501:20:53

will she for that? Room at the price

she is going to pay for that? The

1:20:531:20:58

overall agreement, that will be

one

of the three things in the first

1:20:581:21:04

phase of the talks, getting island

rights, citizens rights and the

1:21:041:21:06

money right before but it

what price

as she prepared to pay? We know what

1:21:061:21:11

price the Irish government and the

rest of the EU is prepared to pay.

1:21:111:21:15

At one stage it looked like Mrs May

was prepared to pay that, until the

1:21:151:21:19

DUP stopped her. If she can't do

that, what other prices she prepared

1:21:191:21:23

to pay? That's what stopping her

moving on to face two.

We will see

1:21:231:21:28

how we get onto two. I'm confident

there is time available and we will

1:21:281:21:33

get there and look forward to those

trade talks.

1:21:331:21:36

This is one of the answered

questions, the EU has been trying

1:21:391:21:42

hard to get this done before the

summit because the EU next week at

1:21:421:21:46

the summit wants to talk about

things like Xi Jinping and's reform

1:21:461:21:50

programme, they don't want the

summit next week to be all about the

1:21:501:21:55

UK. -- talk about things like

President Macron's reform programme.

1:21:551:22:02

It will be a huge pressure on

Theresa May if they can't get it

1:22:021:22:05

done before Christmas, but that

doesn't mean somehow it is all over.

1:22:051:22:08

In theory, they could move on and

carry all this on until March again,

1:22:081:22:14

but she will come under enormous

pressure from Brexiteers to walk

1:22:141:22:18

away if it's not achieved next week.

There is pressure from all sides on

1:22:181:22:21

her.

What did you make of it?

The

Brexit and Northern Irish issue was

1:22:211:22:28

a shambles and 11 o'clock it still

is. I'd be curious to know if Arlene

1:22:281:22:33

Foster picked up the phone or if it

was an answer service.

She did pick

1:22:331:22:37

up the phone, we are told.

What we

don't know is what happened stopped

1:22:371:22:41

and I know, and Jeremy Corbyn didn't

ask what she said to her so we don't

1:22:411:22:45

know that.

Interesting questions on

the Jerusalem issue, I'd thought

1:22:451:22:50

that was good it was raised and it

was good to get that out in the

1:22:501:22:53

Commons. Interesting to see what the

Prime Minister had to say about that

1:22:531:22:57

and that will develop quite clearly

and quite rightly so.

1:22:571:23:01

Back to Central Lobby in the

Commons. A former Brexit

1:23:011:23:05

administered David Jones joins us.

Thank you for coming out of the

1:23:051:23:07

chamber to speak to us. Jacob

Rees-Mogg said he thought the Prime

1:23:071:23:13

Minister's red lines were looking a

bit pink, what do you say?

I think

1:23:131:23:17

she actually made them a lot clearer

during this particular session. I

1:23:171:23:20

think that the most important

question on that front was the

1:23:201:23:24

question from the DUP's Jim Shannon,

who asked for all sorts of

1:23:241:23:29

reassurances about maintaining the

constitutional and economic

1:23:291:23:33

integrity of the UK and she was

unequivocal in her answer and gave

1:23:331:23:36

him total reassurance.

Are you

saying then that contrary to the

1:23:361:23:40

deal she was about to sign earlier

this week, that there won't be a

1:23:401:23:44

separate regulatory alignment for

Northern Ireland? In any deal?

I

1:23:441:23:50

think that was what Jim was trying

to get out. I think he's seemed

1:23:501:23:54

reassured. I looked at him as she

was answering his question. But, of

1:23:541:23:58

course, we know there have been

discussions today with Arlene

1:23:581:24:02

Foster. I hope we will get a lot

more clarity in the course of the

1:24:021:24:06

next few hours.

I think what the

Prime Minister says is more

1:24:061:24:08

important than how DUP MP looks. So

did the Prime Minister, in your

1:24:081:24:15

view, say the idea of the separate

regulatory arrangement for Northern

1:24:151:24:20

Ireland is a dead duck, is that your

view?

That was the impression that I

1:24:201:24:24

got. The impression I did not get is

there might not be regulatory

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alignment for the whole of the UK.

With the European Union. That is

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what people on my side of the House

are going to be looking for before

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she goes back to Brussels.

What if

the Government was to take the

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position that where ever regulatory

alignment is agreed for Northern

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Ireland would be applied to all of

the UK, what would you say to that?

1:24:461:24:50

As I said, that is the concern. I

think what we need to do is to make

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sure that we can strike free trade

agreements around the world after we

1:24:531:24:57

have left the EU. And being tied to

an EU regulatory system would cause

1:24:571:25:03

problems. So that is I think where

we need the clarity.

Why do you

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think the Prime Minister got herself

in a position when she was willing

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to sign an agreement that involved

regulatory alignment?

I can only

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imagine that was advice she had

received. I think once she had the

1:25:171:25:21

telephone call with Arlene Foster,

she clearly thought it was necessary

1:25:211:25:25

to review about advice.

Is it not

remarkable, given the importance of

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the DUP to this minority

government's survival, that she

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hadn't squared the DUP in the first

place before going down this route?

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I think it is important in deep to

keep in close touch with the DUP,

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particularly when we're talking

about arrangements for Northern

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Ireland.

Which clearly didn't happen

otherwise she wouldn't have had to

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come out of the lunch?

Clearly not

sufficient clarity was imparted to

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the DUP.

Why would your government

do that? Why would you get into such

1:25:541:25:59

a pickle?

That is a very good

question, but afraid and it is above

1:25:591:26:03

my pay grade to answer that one.

But

it is. -- it does not engender

1:26:031:26:09

confidence in this government's

competence to handle these

1:26:091:26:12

negotiations if they get something

so fundamental wrong. People saying

1:26:121:26:15

we can solve this to the DUP, we can

do this, it tells up -- turns out

1:26:151:26:20

you couldn't sell it and today we

don't know where we stand on this

1:26:201:26:23

issue.

I think it's clearly been a

difficult couple of days for the

1:26:231:26:27

Prime Minister and those advising

her, but nevertheless it is clear

1:26:271:26:30

that she has now started further

conversations with Arlene Foster and

1:26:301:26:34

we have to hope they are going to be

good, positive discussions that will

1:26:341:26:37

take this on to the next stage.

David Jones, thank you for joining

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us, live from the Central Lobby.

Is there any joy in narrowing down

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the regulatory alignment to things

that are important things,

1:26:471:26:53

specifically covered in the Good

Friday Agreement, like energy,

1:26:531:26:55

there's an energy market in the

island of Ireland, and agriculture,

1:26:551:27:01

because things can go back and

forward across the North-South

1:27:011:27:04

border which is more difficult if

you sent agricultural produce from

1:27:041:27:09

Belfast to Stranraer, it's a tougher

block to do that.

That's right. The

1:27:091:27:14

difficulty is the DUP is now looking

for something bigger than that. They

1:27:141:27:17

are not just looking for the odd

specific word but a different kind

1:27:171:27:20

of approach. As far as they say, and

everyone is managing expectations

1:27:201:27:24

and spinning on both sides, but as

far as they say, they believe the

1:27:241:27:28

draft document was just put together

basically upside down, because it

1:27:281:27:32

was saying, as we were saying to

start with, Northern Ireland and

1:27:321:27:35

Dublin can get closer and closer and

somehow separate to the UK. What

1:27:351:27:41

they want is something that presents

the whole of the UK with here are a

1:27:411:27:44

few exceptions.

Never saw this with

Scotland and Wales as well?

This is

1:27:441:27:48

one of the things. As we saw Monday,

as soon as they lifted the left of

1:27:481:27:54

Pandora's box, suddenly all of these

problems spewing out of it. The hope

1:27:541:27:58

for the Government was this is

sorted in phase two. The

1:27:581:28:02

Government's answer was budget now

and worry about it later but they

1:28:021:28:05

have been found out on that.

Unless

something happens, you would need to

1:28:051:28:09

get the Eurostar!

Who knows...

You

will properly get an annual pass

1:28:091:28:15

now, you have to go back so often!

1:28:151:28:18

There's just time to put you out

of your misery and give

1:28:181:28:21

you the answer to Guess The Year.

1:28:211:28:23

The year was 1962.

1:28:231:28:24

The button is there, give it a bash.

There we go.

1:28:241:28:27

And the winner is...

1:28:271:28:28

Frank Sheppard from Wisbech.

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The monkeys yours. -- the mug is

yours.

1:28:321:28:39

That's all for today.

1:28:391:28:42

No answers from PMQs.

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The One O'Clock News is starting

over on BBC One now.

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Jo will be here at noon tomorrow

with all the big political stories

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of the day - do join us if you can.

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Bye-bye.

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