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Morning folks, welcome

to the Daily Politics.

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Theresa May has put a newish Cabinet

in place with some difficulty.

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And she didn't always

get what she wanted.

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The reshuffle of the minions went

a bit more smoothly,

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if anybody noticed.

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So, another shambles,

or a fresh-faced reflection

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of modern Britain?

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The NHS.

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Housing.

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Brexit.

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There won't be much of a breather

for the new cabinet -

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we take a look at government

priorities for 2018.

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Theresa May will square up

to Jeremy Corbyn in the first

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Prime Minister's Questions of 2018.

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We'll bring you that live

and uninterrupted at noon.

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All that coming up in

the next hour and a half.

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And with us for the duration two

people doing exactly the same job

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now as they did last week -

the Leader of the House of Commons,

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Andrea Leadsom, and the Shadow Work

and Pensions Secretary,

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Debbie Abrahams.

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Welcome.

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Happy new year to you both.

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Now, if you read the papers

at the weekend, you may have read

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that Andrea Leadsom was going be

moved from her post as Leader

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of the House in the reshuffle,

but we knew that wasn't going

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to happen when we spotted this -

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Andrea chopping vegetables in her

very own Leader of the House apron.

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I've now got my own apron

and, Debbie Abrahams,

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we're going to bullet proof

you against a future

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Labour reshuffle with your

very own Shadow Work

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and Pensions Secretary apron.

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Can we scratch that bit out?

You may

have to change it. Come the time. We

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will do that as well. If Andrea can

keep her post wearing an apron, you

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can too. Let's talk about the

reshuffle. We learned in 2017 that

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when it came to election campaigns,

Mrs May couldn't organise them for

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toffee. We have learned already in

2018 when it cops to reshuffle --

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comes to reshuffles, it is the a

party in a brewery.

I disagree, we

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have a new cabinet focussing on the

Prime Minister's priority,

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particularly housing, social care,

we have new female members of

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cabinet.

You haven't got any more.

But we have some fresh faces and

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let's be clear what the Prime

Minister was setting out to achieve

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was to improve the pipeline of

newer, younger MPs who are diverse.

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Many more women.

I take that at the

lower levels, but you say it is new,

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it is not a new cabinet, the big

beasts haven't changed, we perhaps

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include yourself in that. There is

no more women than before. There is

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no change in the racial diversity of

the cabinet. There is a net loss of

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one LGBT cabinet minister and there

is fewer from comprehensives. Fewer

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non-Oxbridge. How is this a new

cabinet for the 21st Century.

That

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is to miss the point. The cabinet is

a core part of government, so are

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the Whitehall teams.

Why was the

cabinet not changed?

You need to

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give people the opportunity to get

experience and understand the

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machinery of government and we have

some fantastic new people who are at

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under-Secretary of state level.

They're integral to policy

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development and thinking and new

ideas. And of course the next step

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is with that experience they then

will be looking at cabinet posts.

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Some have been around for a while.

You can't just look at the cabinet.

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You mentioned the cabinet in your

first answer to my question. You

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mentioned the cabinet. Not me. So I

told you what had changed in the

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cabinet, which is very little. What

does it say of Prime Minister that

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she wasn't strong enough to move her

health Secretary.

I don't think any

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of us know exactly what happened in

those conversations.

We do, she

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tried to move him and he said he

wouldn't go.

Jeremy Hunt has been

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doing an incredibly good job.

So why

try to move on.

He is determined to

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take on the challenge of social

care. Great news we are living

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longer bs but the challenge is

there. I don't know that she tried

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to move him.

You must be the only

person in the country who doesn't.

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The press have speculated on it.

Downing Street and Jeremy Hunt's

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people have briefed the press. Did

she try to move you?

I had a very

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brief and very pleasant conversation

with the Prime Minister where she

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told me there is a lot of important

work to do and asked me to stay in

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my job and I was delighted to do.

She didn't mention moving you.

No.

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Were you nervous she might, you were

tweeting and playing for position.

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No, I was relaxed about my position.

All right. On the lower ranks, the

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minute yons, there is a big change

in the diversity, and these will

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probably be the Tory cabinet

ministers of tomorrow. Does that

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worry you?

No, I think we should

welcome any increase in diversity at

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all levels within government.

However, you have raised the points

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already, in terms of the cabinet

that is not the case. If you compare

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that to our Shadow Cabinet which has

50% women a range of ages and then

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people from across the groups as

well. It is quite a difference. Your

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point around the shambolic reshuffle

is well made. We had Chris Grayling

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as chairman and then he wasn't.

That

was a good Tory head quarters,

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they're still trying to get to grips

with social media, or the quill pen!

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The point around Jeremy Hunt doing a

good job and being retained, look at

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it.

We will come on to it. Let me

stop you, not because I don't want

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you to talk about that, because we

are coming on to that as you would

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expect us.

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With the reshuffle done,

it's now time for Theresa May

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and her team to get on with the job,

as they say.

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There won't be much of a breather

for the new cabinet

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as the Prime Minister tries

to refocus onto the domestic agenda.

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So what are the Government

priorities for the year ahead?

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Here's Elizabeth Glinka

with the details.

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Theresa May began the year saying

that fixing the housing crisis

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was her "personal mission" -

she promptly added it

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to Communities Secretary

Sajid Javid's title.

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Jeremy Hunt continues on at Health

amidst a crisis in the NHS.

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He was forced to apologise last

week, after he approved

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the cancellation of 55,000

non-urgent operations

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until February.

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He also adds social care

to his brief,

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with a white paper

due by the summer.

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Meanwhile, the ink was barely dry

on Justine Greening's

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social mobility strategy before she

left her post as Education Secretary

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this week.

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So one question is,

will her successor, Damian Hinds,

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pick up where she left off?

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But, despite the push on domestic

policy, Brexit will inevitably

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dominate this year's agenda.

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In the Commons, the Trade Bill

received its second reading

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yesterday, and the EU

Withdrawal Bill will be

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back in front of MPs

again later this month.

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There will be a new Immigration

Bill later this year.

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And that is all before

the Government needs

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to conclude its negotiations

with Brussels by October if a deal

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is to pass all the democratic

hurdles in time for the UK to leave

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in March next year.

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As the Cabinet only met just before

Christmas to discuss what that final

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deal might look like,

the clock is certainly ticking.

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First let's look at the

Conservatives and Andrea Leadsom.

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Since the election in June last

year, and putting aside Brexit

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issues, what has to Government

achieved?

Certainly right across a

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range of portfolio areas. To take

the NHS, which is a priority for

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everybody in the country, we have

seen huge efforts made to try and

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solve the issue of delayed transfer,

so freeing up many more beds for

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people.

You have not solved that.

It

is not solved, but it has gone a

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long way to being solved.

Hold on,

you have cancelled 55,000

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operations.

That is a different

issue. The delayed transfer of care

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is the issue sometimes known as bed

blocking.

Because you have not

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resolved enough of that, you have to

cancel operations.

The key thing to

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remember is that the demands on the

NHS in the winter are always

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increased. That is an inevitable

part. So always what the NHS staff

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seek to do is prioritise the urgent

over the routine operations and that

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is so in winter it is difficult. We

have been...

Winter is never a

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surprise. It does come around every

year and doesn't go to maybe late

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March. The one thing that isn't

seasonal is the situation in which

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one in ten nursing posts are vacant.

One in ten. Why?

Since 2010 there

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has been an increase in the numbers

of nurses on wards. I don't know

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where that figure you have got has

come from.

They're official figures,

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one in ten, there are...

10,000.

You

may may have, there are 45,000

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unfilled roles and 40,000 are in

nursing. If you name the NHS ace an

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achievement -- as an achievement,

why?

The numbers you're giving, I'm

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not sured if you're talkeded about

registered to nurse.

Qualified

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nurses. A 50% rise in the number of

nurses quitting compared to 2014.

I

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think there you're talking about

deregistering.

No I'm talking about

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nurses quitting. Let he bring it

down to a practical example. A

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prestige hospital in Oxford is now

talking, is saying it will have to

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stop giving chemotherapy or reduce

chemotherapy to people who are

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dying.

That is... Incredibly

worrying. But you will also be aware

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that that commissioning group has

said they're not in fact doing that

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at all. It was apparently a leaked

e-mail.

What they're saying is that

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that is in the plan to do it,

because of... The reason I bring it,

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it is staff shortages. They're down,

this is a hospital, these are not

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global figures, this is a real

hospital, one of the richest parts

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of country too, 40% of the

establishment nurses are down.

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They're down 40% on what it should

be. Which is why they have had to

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talk about delaying chemotherapy,

which is... A terrible thing to go

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through any ware and to be told it

is delayed.

I agree it worrying, but

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I say again that trust have said

that is not the case. So just to be

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clear about...

They have said this

what is they will have to do if the

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staffing shortage doesn't change. It

has not happened yet. You're right.

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Exactly.

It was bigged up in the

times story. The head of the

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hospital has said that they will

have to make cuts to treatment of

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the terminally ill.

They have not

said that. Just to be clear, there

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are 10,000 more nurses now than

there were in 2010.

Still one in ten

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vacancies.

We have a huge

recruitment drive for nor nursing

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staff and GPs and there is much more

support for people wanting to come

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into the profession and it is right

to do that. But nevertheless, just I

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want to say...

This, we got to this,

because I asked you other than

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Brexit and everything associated

with what what the Government's

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achieved, you surprised me by

mentioning the NHS. Having heard the

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figures, would you reconsider that?

The NHS is doing an incredible job.

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We have just been again for the

second year in a row, called the

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best health system in the world.

That is by... The common wealth fund

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is an American fund that wants

America to adopt a British system.

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So it always finds the British

system. You're saying it is health.

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It sees health through a particular

British focus. There is no harm in

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that, but it is one reason why we

don't come out best in others. You

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talk about the NHS with Labour Party

it is just more money.

I no, but

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your right we have the lowest level

of funding since 1951. It is

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chronic. It is not me saying that,

there is a host of peer reviewed

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articles in the BMJ and other such

publications.

Over all funding is at

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a record level.

In terms of cash.

In

real terms.

But in percentage of GDP

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it is not. We are again as we were

in the nineties below the EU average

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and this is having a significant

impact. I reiterate the articles in

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the BMJ showing this is the real

issue. Impacting on clinical posts,

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100,000.

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I'm sticking with the NHS because

it's such an important subject for

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everybody, we all depend on it, but

other than putting more money in,

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and the government would say that it

has put more money in, what single

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big change would you make to make it

function better?

We need to make

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sure that we keep transforming the

NHS. Particularly in terms of, we've

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had for a number of years a

purchaser provider relationships,

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and that is impacting...

Would you

reverse that?

We know there are 20

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billion contracts that have gone to

the private health sector since

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since the dreadful privatisation.

A

slow rate of growth, down under the

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last Labour government.

That's not

the case. If you look...

You would

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reverse all privatisation?

We know

that evidence is that privatisation

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of the health system... Can I

finish? It reduces access to health

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care. It increases inequality.

If

you need an operation and the NHS is

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paying for it, but you have to go to

a private hospital to get it, why

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would you care as long as you get

it? How could the NHS cope if none

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of these operations were then done

in the private sector?

The evidence

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is that, when you have a privatised

or market iced system, the

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inequalities in terms of access, and

this is in terms of...

But at the

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moment the NHS is struggling with

capacity. Part of that is met by

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getting other hospitals outside the

NHS offered free at the point of

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useful to help the NHS take these

operations on?

We have always had a

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plural health system and, where

there is need around capacity, we'd

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want to make sure that people have

access. There was an open letter in

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one of the national papers today

about a woman with cancer who has

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had her operation postponed.

I saw

that. I think you would perhaps

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agree that we have put these issues

to them.

Yes, you have, robustly.

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We're nothing if not

fair on this programme.

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As we've already outlined

the challenges facing

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the Government in 2018,

now it's Labour's turn.

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Here's Elizabeth again.

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Labour will also have to wrestle

with questions about Brexit,

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with one prominent backbencher -

Chuka Ummuna - reportedly walking

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out of the Parliamentary Labour

Party meeting on Monday

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when leader Jeremy Corbyn

restated his position that the UK

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cannot leave the EU while remaining

in the single market

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and the customs union.

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More than 20 of Labour's MPs have

signed an amendment to keep the UK

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inside the customs union.

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The party is also battling

to maintain economic credibility,

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after Shadow Education Secretary

Angela Rayner used some colourful

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language to describe

what she called the party's

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"high-risk" economic strategy.

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Meanwhile, the internal war

between different wings

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of the party continues,

with voting for the National

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Executive Committee this week.

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Momentum founder Jon Lansman

is up against

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comedian and activist Eddie Izzard.

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And that fight continues to rumble

in local parties across the country

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over the reselection of councillors.

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Selections for parliamentary

candidates in 75 key targets have

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been pushed back to April.

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So perhaps the question for Labour

this year is whether the party -

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which is still matching

the Conservatives in the polls -

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can keep the peace sufficiently

to make gains at the local elections

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in May.

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Thank you. Debbie Abrahams, it's a

New Year, new policies? So what is

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Labour's latest position on

membership of the single market?

We

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have said that we want to retain the

exact same benefits of being in a

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customs union, not necessarily...

I'll come to that, but stick with

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the single market.

Access to the

single market.

Is Labour policy to

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stay members?

We want the same

benefits.

How can you have that if

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you're not a member?

We need to have

a deal and we need to negotiate it

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in the same way that Keir Starmer

has been advocating.

If the EU says,

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all right, you can stay members, but

with membership comes a price, one

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is free movement, would you agree to

that?

No, we have been very clear...

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So you can't be members of the

single market. Who is a member that

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has that?

It doesn't meet mean that

it can't happen with us.

Angela

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Merkel has made it clear yesterday

that you can't cherry pick parts of

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the single market without having the

obligations.

Negotiations need to

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take place, and I appreciate what

Angela Merkel had to say, she isn't

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in the most stable position at the

moment, but we need to have robust

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negotiations and that isn't what

happening at the moment.

Maybe, but,

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if you stay a member of the single

market, the European Court of

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Justice as judicial sovereignty over

you. Would you agree to that?

I

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think we have seen from the

government side, Theresa May is

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agreed that, particularly in the

transitional period...

If you stay

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members, across the remit, it has

judicial sovereignty. Would you

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agree to that?

We need to make sure

there is an arbiter that can resolve

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issues that come up but whether that

is the ECJ or another body, at some

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stage. During the transition stage,

and it would be interesting to hear

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Andrea's position on that,...

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Andrea's position on that,...

Let's

stick with Labour.

This is the

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government, to be fair!

You said you

were a government in waiting. Mr

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Corbyn said that, he said he'd be

Prime Minister by last Christmas, so

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it's only bake you should have

policies on this. Are you, as I read

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in the Times about to change your

position on the customs union again?

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We discussed it at Shadow Cabinet

yesterday, and no.

So would you want

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Britain to remain a member of the

customs union or not?

We have set a

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customs union for the we are not

hung up about the model. What we are

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focusing on is a negotiated

settlement that will have benefits

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and protect jobs and the economy.

On

the overall tone of British

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politics, which I think that but

Davidson after recently, but Labour,

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Rayner in particular, played quite a

seminal role in helping to get Toby

0:22:140:22:25

Young to quit, because he tweeted a

lot of things that range from the

0:22:250:22:28

juvenile to the offensive. Why does

it mean that he had to resign but

0:22:280:22:33

it's OK for Jarrod O'Mara to remain

a backbench Labour MP, sitting on

0:22:330:22:36

your benches?

As I understand it,

Jarrod O'Mara have had the whip

0:22:360:22:42

removed.

Angela Rayner says she has

read the charge against Toby Young

0:22:420:22:47

and she says she is happy to sit

alongside him for that this is a man

0:22:470:22:51

who called a woman a bitch, who

called other women slags, who wanted

0:22:510:23:00

in orgies with girls aloud, and

referred to

0:23:000:23:06

referred to simply as a poofter. Why

is he still there?

Unacceptable

0:23:070:23:11

language, and there is an

investigation going on.

Why the

0:23:110:23:15

lynch mob for Toby Young? Plenty of

people would say that it's not right

0:23:150:23:21

for him to do that, but why not with

Jarrod O'Mara?

He has had the whip

0:23:210:23:26

removed and investigations are

ongoing.

0:23:260:23:33

ongoing.

But talking about lynching,

John McDonnell, your Shadow

0:23:340:23:37

Chancellor, he's talked about

lynching Esther McVey. Why is he

0:23:370:23:44

Shadow Chancellor? But Toby Young

can't be one member of an obscure

0:23:440:23:51

higher education quango?

I think

everybody needs to be responsible

0:23:510:23:57

for the language that they use. That

seems very out of character for

0:23:570:24:00

John.

He revelled in assassinating

Margaret Thatcher.

We all need to be

0:24:000:24:10

careful of our language, we really

do.

He called Esther should --

0:24:100:24:16

Esther McVey a stain on humanity.

I

repeat what I've just said.

But he's

0:24:160:24:22

still there, the number two man in

your party, and Mr Young has gone,

0:24:220:24:26

and people would say rightly, but

just trying to look at that. A lot

0:24:260:24:33

of this language is used to bully,

and you have announced in the

0:24:330:24:38

Commons a new initiative on

bullying. Is that right?

Yes.

Not

0:24:380:24:43

just for MPs but everybody in

Parliament. These tell us about it.

0:24:430:24:48

The Prime Minister established this

working group, cross-party, with all

0:24:480:24:54

the other party leaders, who have

all signed up to participate in it,

0:24:540:24:57

and we took a lot of evidence before

Christmas, we now have a draft

0:24:570:25:00

report that proposes serious

sanctions for any form of bullying

0:25:000:25:07

and harassment, and separate

sanctions and investigation for

0:25:070:25:10

sexual harassment in particular. I

am determined to stamp this out for

0:25:100:25:13

them I hear what Debbie is saying,

and I'm embarrassed for her. It's

0:25:130:25:20

unjustifiable to a lovely colleague,

such as Esther McVey for the other

0:25:200:25:24

people, it's extraordinary, it has

to stop.

I think you gave an

0:25:240:25:29

interview to BBC Radio 5 Live on

this initiative, so people who want

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to the Prime Minister's

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decision to recycle most

of her cabinet on Monday.

0:25:390:25:43

I'm talking about this.

0:25:430:25:44

The Environment Secretary has

decided to get himself

0:25:440:25:46

an ever-so-responsible

reusable coffee cup,

0:25:460:25:49

having been denounced for sipping

from the disposable

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It's coming up to midday here -

just take a look at Big Ben -

0:28:080:28:12

and that can mean only one thing.

0:28:120:28:18

She is there in all of her glory,

despite the scaffolding.

0:28:180:28:22

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And that's not all -

Laura Kuenssberg is here.

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Happy New Year to you. We were green

while we ran that quiz that it's

0:28:260:28:32

hard for Mr Corbyn to avoid the NHS.

I think it is, and I suspect he will

0:28:320:28:39

either be pushing Theresa May on the

performance of the NHS in the last

0:28:390:28:43

few weeks, stories emerging of not

just individual cases with awful

0:28:430:28:48

consequences of experiences in

hospitals but also stories like

0:28:480:28:50

we've seen today on the front of the

Times, suggesting that at one

0:28:500:28:55

hospital you were talking about

earlier, and also because tomorrow

0:28:550:28:58

sees the latest set of statistics

published by NHS England on the

0:28:580:29:02

performance of hospitals last week.

When you talk to people familiar

0:29:020:29:06

with the health world, everybody

expects those figures tomorrow to

0:29:060:29:11

not be pretty, and the Prime

Minister was asked about the NHS at

0:29:110:29:15

the weekend and she drew criticism

for how she responded, by saying

0:29:150:29:19

that nothing is perfect, but what a

lot of people in Westminster would

0:29:190:29:22

say is that it's not just a question

of not being perfect but the NHS is

0:29:220:29:26

reaching a point where there has to

be some bigger thinking of how it

0:29:260:29:31

copes and evolves in the future.

The

risk we face at PMQs is that Mr

0:29:310:29:35

Corbyn says NHS apples and Mrs May

says NHS pears.

Yes, we've been

0:29:350:29:47

there before, statistics, the prime

ministers say more people are

0:29:470:29:49

treated than ever before, true, the

population is growing, and Jeremy

0:29:490:29:54

Corbyn save the NHS has missed all

of its targets for the first time in

0:29:540:29:59

modern history, also true, but we

get a lot of heat and not a lot of

0:29:590:30:02

light. But the images is a political

issue that really cuts through to

0:30:020:30:06

people's everyday lives. That is why

it is a core campaign issue.

I was

0:30:060:30:11

to get a detailed survey that had

been done by a prestige public

0:30:110:30:16

opinion group, and it found that,

outside Westminster, Brexit wasn't a

0:30:160:30:20

big deal for most people, they

didn't really care, but that the NHS

0:30:200:30:24

was moving up the agenda, probably

now clearly at the top of that is

0:30:240:30:28

why I say that Mr Corbyn has to go

with that.

I think it's a logical

0:30:280:30:33

conclusion that he will today, and I

also think in number ten they are

0:30:330:30:36

well aware of that. It is set in

number ten circles when you talk to

0:30:360:30:40

people that work there that they

know the next election, as they see

0:30:400:30:44

it, will not be won lost on Brexit

but on bread and butter issues and

0:30:440:30:48

people's experiences of their own

lives in the country. It's not

0:30:480:30:54

necessarily yet clear whether people

are, everybody up and down the

0:30:540:30:57

country is finding their own

experience of the NHS is dreadful.

0:30:570:30:59

Hugely varied. But it is an issue

that sort of is climbing the charts

0:30:590:31:08

of political relevance, if you like,

and I think that we can expect

0:31:080:31:11

Jeremy Corbyn to go on that today.

But you never know, there have been

0:31:110:31:16

plenty of times when he has alighted

on another issue, but particularly

0:31:160:31:21

with Jeremy Hunt having fought to

stay in his job and expanding his

0:31:210:31:24

brief a bit, the Health Secretary, I

just wonder if somehow the politics

0:31:240:31:30

of the NHS are going to become even

more febrile and more centrestage in

0:31:300:31:36

the next few months, in a way that

maybe we haven't seen for a while.

0:31:360:31:40

We haven't yet seen any sign,

looking at the screen, of the

0:31:400:31:45

government thinking, we'd better

draw a line under this and we'd

0:31:450:31:51

better do something that moves it on

in a substantial way. It's still

0:31:510:31:56

fighting hand to mouth, week to week

on this.

Yes, there hasn't been any

0:31:560:32:03

new big thinking on the NHS from

this government in recent times,

0:32:030:32:07

partly because what they did put

forward in the manifesto, the idea

0:32:070:32:10

on social care, which is absolutely

interlinked and a critical part of

0:32:100:32:15

why the NHS is having such problems,

and that idea went up like a balloon

0:32:150:32:20

and popped almost immediately and,

since then, there has been very

0:32:200:32:25

little coming forward. Sources have

told me that Damian Green was meant

0:32:250:32:29

to be working on this social care

green paper, but really not much of

0:32:290:32:34

the work had been undertaken yet.

We'll see therefore in the next

0:32:340:32:37

couple of months what Jeremy Hunt

comes up with, and I understand that

0:32:370:32:41

he is off of you, as is the Prime

Minister, that there has to be an

0:32:410:32:49

exhilaration -- acceleration of the

integration of the NHS and social

0:32:490:32:54

care, and I think that Labour

probably agrees, but not how they

0:32:540:32:57

are going to do it.

There are real

issues around accountable care

0:32:570:33:02

organisations. It's an Americanised

approach. We have a privately funded

0:33:020:33:08

NHS, privately funded social care.

Because they are mainly privately

0:33:080:33:15

owned.

Absolutely, and under a Tory

government bringing them together

0:33:150:33:18

doesn't bode well pulled

but one

thing that Tory politicians will

0:33:180:33:22

also say that money isn't always the

answer was that you look at

0:33:220:33:25

different parts of the country and

some parts of the country have

0:33:250:33:29

social care and local hospitals and

GPs pretty joined up, and the

0:33:290:33:35

statistics show that people get

better care and attention and, in

0:33:350:33:38

other parts, where the service isn't

so joined up it isn't working as

0:33:380:33:41

well. So I think they want to focus

much more on that, but also most

0:33:410:33:48

people privately, including in the

Tory party, acknowledged that

0:33:480:33:52

somehow more money is going to have

to go into the system, and the

0:33:520:33:56

question is how you do it. Various

ideas have been knocking around,

0:33:560:33:59

last week with some of the terrible

stories about the current pressures

0:33:590:34:03

on the NHS were emerging, and we

went back to some of the questions

0:34:030:34:06

about whether there should be a

royal commission.

Another tax.

But

0:34:060:34:12

you wonder, yes, in a sense, we have

been here before, this debate

0:34:120:34:17

happens roughly once a year, but you

get a sense that maybe we are

0:34:170:34:21

tiptoeing towards a moment where,

actually, it will not just be a

0:34:210:34:24

debate but decisions

as you point

out, Laura, a lot of the good work

0:34:240:34:30

being done in the NHS is driven by

the fact that, under this

0:34:300:34:34

government, we sought to put local

health care managers in charge, and

0:34:340:34:38

they are finding a way, for example,

to work with the social care budget

0:34:380:34:42

to give a much better outcome for

patients.

But not everyone.

Jeremy

0:34:420:34:49

Hunt is focused on enabling local

health care managers to own the

0:34:490:34:52

problem, to make decisions about

which parts of the estate they need,

0:34:520:34:56

where they want to invest, and there

are amazing advances in technology,

0:34:560:35:01

robotics and so on, which really

have the potential to transform

0:35:010:35:05

operations.

That is tinkering around

the edges though. The 2012 at said,

0:35:050:35:10

I'm sorry, we don't want you to

collaborate, because the whole point

0:35:100:35:12

of it was competition, and it's

prohibited people from...

I have to

0:35:120:35:17

interrupt you. The speaker has

started question time late.

0:35:170:35:21

Thank you Mr Speaker. Thank you.

Thank you Mr Speaker. I hope it is

0:35:260:35:35

not too late to wish all members and

staff in the house a very happy New

0:35:350:35:40

Year. Mr Speaker this morning I have

meetings with ministerial colleagues

0:35:400:35:43

and others in addition to my duties

in this house I will have further

0:35:430:35:47

such meetings later today.

I too

would like to wish members of staff

0:35:470:35:53

a happy New Year. At least 1.4

million households across the UK

0:35:530:35:57

have been victims of unfair

practices in the leasehold market

0:35:570:36:01

including my constituent Emily

Martin. In advance of intended

0:36:010:36:07

legislation what commitment will be

Prime Minister make to ensure Emily

0:36:070:36:10

and thousands of people tied into

this scandal are compensated by

0:36:100:36:15

developers now?

I say to the

honourable gentleman that we are

0:36:150:36:21

concerned when we hear of unfair

practices taking place. I am sure

0:36:210:36:25

the Housing Secretary will be happy

to hear of the particular case as an

0:36:250:36:30

example of this. We are looking to

see what action the government can

0:36:300:36:33

take to ensure people are secure in

their homes and that they are not

0:36:330:36:37

subject to practices they should not

be subject to.

0:36:370:36:40

Thank you Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, in

December when the Brexit secretary

0:36:450:36:49

met Michel Barnier they hugged. In

that spirit would my right

0:36:490:36:55

honourable friend the Prime Minister

passionately embrace, not me Mr

0:36:550:37:02

Speaker, but would she passionately

embraced the agenda she set out last

0:37:020:37:06

year to build a Briton fit for the

future, to encourage home ownership,

0:37:060:37:12

to encourage education and life

chances and leave this country in a

0:37:120:37:16

better place than when we find it?

I

have to say to my honourable friend

0:37:160:37:24

he talks about passionate embraces

but I do not think he has ever had

0:37:240:37:28

the kiss he once asked for! But if I

may say he's absolutely... He's

0:37:280:37:36

absolutely right. We are determined

to deliver Britain which is fit for

0:37:360:37:41

the future and that does mean we

need to get Brexit right but it

0:37:410:37:44

means we need to do a lot more. He

references house-building and we are

0:37:440:37:49

committed to building the homes this

country needs. That is why we have

0:37:490:37:54

put 15 billion of new financial

support available over the next five

0:37:540:37:57

years and why we scrap stamp duty

for 80% of first-time buyers. We are

0:37:570:38:02

also improving school standards, 1.9

million more children in good or

0:38:020:38:07

outstanding schools

0:38:070:38:13

outstanding schools today and we are

protecting our natural environment.

0:38:130:38:15

We are building a Briton which can

look to the future with optimism and

0:38:150:38:17

hope.

Mr Speaker could I wish you

and all the house and all the staff

0:38:170:38:23

a very happy New Year. Everyone is

agreed, yeah? Thank you.

CHUCKLES

0:38:230:38:28

.

0:38:280:38:34

.

Mr Speaker, I know it seems a long

time ago, I know it seems a long

0:38:340:38:38

time ago but just before Christmas I

asked the Prime Minister about the

0:38:380:38:43

12,000 people left waiting more than

half an hour in the back of an

0:38:430:38:48

ambulance at accident and emergency

departments. She told the house the

0:38:480:38:52

NHS was better prepared for winter

than ever before. So what words of

0:38:520:38:59

comfort does the Prime Minister have

two the 17,000 patients left waiting

0:38:590:39:04

in the back of and allowances in the

last week of December? Is it that

0:39:040:39:10

nothing is perfect by any chance?

I

fully accept that the NHS is under

0:39:100:39:17

pressure over winter, it is

regularly under pressure at winter

0:39:170:39:21

times. I have been very, I have been

very clear, I apologise to those

0:39:210:39:26

people who have had operations

delayed and those people who have

0:39:260:39:29

had admissions to hospital delayed.

But it is indeed the case that the

0:39:290:39:34

NHS was better prepared this winter

than ever before and it might be

0:39:340:39:37

helpful... Yes...

Order!

It might be

helpful if I let the house now some

0:39:370:39:45

of the things which were done in

order to ensure that preparedness.

0:39:450:39:49

More people than ever before having

flu vaccines, 2700 more acute beds

0:39:490:39:54

being available since November. For

the first time ever, for the first

0:39:540:40:01

time ever, we have seen GP, urgent

GP appointments are available across

0:40:010:40:08

the Christmas period across this

country. More doctors specialising

0:40:080:40:13

in treating the elderly in accident

and emergency. The right honourable

0:40:130:40:17

gentleman mentions the last exchange

we had in this house. In our last

0:40:170:40:22

exchange he said mental health

budgets have been cut. That is not

0:40:220:40:27

right. Simon stevens from the

national health service has made

0:40:270:40:29

clear that mental health spending

has gone up both in real terms and

0:40:290:40:34

as a proportion of the overall

spending. So will he now apologise

0:40:340:40:38

for what he previously said?

Mr

Speaker, the Prime Minister knows

0:40:380:40:46

full well that budgets have been

raided and that many people who need

0:40:460:40:49

help are not getting that help. And

Mr Speaker we saw on ITV news the

0:40:490:40:57

other night that nurses are spending

the entire shift treating people in

0:40:570:41:02

car parks because of backed up

ambulances. We know the Prime

0:41:020:41:08

Minister recognises there is a

crisis in our NHS because she wanted

0:41:080:41:12

to sack the Health Secretary last

week but was too weak to do it. And

0:41:120:41:18

if the NHS is so well resourced and

so well-prepared, why was the

0:41:180:41:24

decision taken last week to cancel

the operations of 55,000 patients

0:41:240:41:31

during the month of January?

I say

to the right honourable gentleman...

0:41:310:41:41

Well, from the front bench the

Labour Party say apologise but

0:41:410:41:46

actually, listen to the answer I

gave to his right honourable friend

0:41:460:41:49

the Leader of the Opposition I have

made clear that I have already

0:41:490:41:54

apologised to those whose operations

have been delayed and we will make

0:41:540:41:58

sure that those operations are

reinstated as soon as possible. We

0:41:580:42:02

are putting record funding into the

NHS and record funding into mental

0:42:020:42:06

health. But he keeps on about the

preparations from the national

0:42:060:42:10

health service, I was very pleased

last week to be able to go and say

0:42:100:42:14

in person thank you to the staff at

Frimley health trust from both

0:42:140:42:20

Frimley Park and webs Park hospitals

for the work that they have been

0:42:200:42:23

doing to deliver for patients across

this period of pressure across the

0:42:230:42:28

winter. Our NHS staff, and that is

not just doctors and nurses, it is

0:42:280:42:34

support staff, administrative staff,

porters, it is everybody working in

0:42:340:42:40

our national health service, they do

other than plastic job every day and

0:42:400:42:43

they particularly do that when we

see these winter pressures -- they

0:42:430:42:48

do a fantastic job every day. This

is what NHS providers said only last

0:42:480:42:55

week. Preparations for winter in the

NHS have been more extensive and

0:42:550:42:59

meticulous than ever before.

Mr

Speaker we all bank all NHS staff

0:42:590:43:06

are what they do. But the reality is

that the 55,000 operations cancelled

0:43:060:43:12

means that those 55,000 people join

the already 4 million waiting for

0:43:120:43:19

operations within the NHS. Perhaps

the Prime Minister could listen to

0:43:190:43:23

the experience of Vicky. Her

82-year-old mother spent 13 hours on

0:43:230:43:28

a trolley in a corridor, that was on

top of the three hours between her

0:43:280:43:34

first calling 999 and arriving at

hospital. Vicky says, and I quote,

0:43:340:43:42

"Is a volunteer first responder from

Warwickshire heart service whose day

0:43:420:43:46

job is in the army kept mum safe and

tell paramedic arrives". Her mother

0:43:460:43:51

then suffered a heart attack just a

week before. This is not an isolated

0:43:510:43:56

case. Does the Prime Minister really

believe the NHS is better prepared

0:43:560:44:02

than ever for the crisis it is now

going through?

First of all can I

0:44:020:44:07

say to the right honourable

gentleman that nobody wants to hear

0:44:070:44:11

people having to experience what

Vicky and her mother experienced.

0:44:110:44:15

And of course, we need to ensure

that we learn from these incidents.

0:44:150:44:20

That's exactly what we do in the

national health service. I am very

0:44:200:44:25

happy to ensure that that particular

case is look that if you would like

0:44:250:44:28

to provide me with the details of

that particular case. But a week in

0:44:280:44:33

and week out in the run-up to

Christmas and now today what the

0:44:330:44:36

right honourable gentleman is doing

is giving the impression of a

0:44:360:44:40

national health service which is

feeling everybody who goes to use

0:44:400:44:44

the NHS. The reality and our NHS is

we are seeing 2.9 million more

0:44:440:44:50

people now going to accident and

emergency. We are seeing over 2

0:44:500:44:55

million more operations taking place

each year. Our national health

0:44:550:44:59

service is something we should be

proud of. That is why it is a first

0:44:590:45:04

class... It is a first-class

National Health Service that has

0:45:040:45:08

been identified as the number-1

health system in the world. That

0:45:080:45:13

means it's a better health system

than Australia, the Netherlands, New

0:45:130:45:19

Zealand, Canada, Switzerland,

Sweden, France, and the United

0:45:190:45:21

States of America!

0:45:210:45:28

We are all proud on this side of the

house of the principal of the NHS,

0:45:280:45:32

health care as a human right about

in the last year 565,000 people have

0:45:320:45:39

spent time on trolleys when they

should be treated. The number of

0:45:390:45:44

elderly people being rushed into A&E

from care homes has risen by 62%

0:45:440:45:48

since the Tories took power. Care

Quality Commission figures suggest

0:45:480:45:54

that nearly a quarter of homes need

improvement. Not only is this

0:45:540:45:59

robbing older people of their

dignity, but it's putting pressure

0:45:590:46:04

on A&E and Ambulance Services. So

why, instead of dealing with the

0:46:040:46:07

social care crisis, as the Prime

Minister rewarded Health Secretary

0:46:070:46:10

with a promotion and a new job

title?

Can I say to the right

0:46:100:46:18

honourable gentleman that I think

there are many voices across the

0:46:180:46:23

house, including those from his own

party, who have been encouraging me

0:46:230:46:27

to ensure that we see better

integration between health and

0:46:270:46:32

social care. I am pleased that we

have recognised this by making the

0:46:320:46:35

Department of Health the Department

of Health and social care, and that

0:46:350:46:40

has been recognised by Age UK, who

has said that this is a welcome and

0:46:400:46:47

long overdue recognition of the

interdependence of health and social

0:46:470:46:49

care but I saw for myself last week

at Ferney Park the good week that is

0:46:490:46:54

being done by some hospitals up and

down the country, working with GPs

0:46:540:46:59

and care homes and the voluntary

sector to ensure that elderly people

0:46:590:47:03

can stay at home safely and do not

need to come into hospital, with all

0:47:030:47:09

of the consequences of them coming

in to hospital beds. That is the way

0:47:090:47:14

forward. That is what we want to do,

ensuring that we think that

0:47:140:47:18

integration of health and social

care at the grassroots level. But

0:47:180:47:22

the way right honourable gentleman

talks, you would think that the

0:47:220:47:25

Labour Party had all the solutions

for the NHS. If the Labour Party...

0:47:250:47:32

If the Labour Party have got all the

answers, why is it that we see

0:47:320:47:40

funding being cut, targets not being

met in Wales, where the Labour Party

0:47:400:47:43

is responsible?

Mr Speaker, the

Prime Minister leads a government

0:47:430:47:50

that is responsible for the funding

of national governments, such as in

0:47:500:47:54

Wales. She knows full well what has

been cut from Wales. But she is, Mr

0:47:540:47:59

Speaker, directly responsible, she

is directly responsible for the NHS

0:47:590:48:05

in England, and giving the Health

Secretary a new job title will not

0:48:050:48:09

hide the fact that 6 billion has

been cut from social care under the

0:48:090:48:15

Tories. Part, Mr Speaker, part of

the problem with the NHS is that its

0:48:150:48:23

funds have been increasingly

siphoned off into private companies,

0:48:230:48:28

including in the Health Secretary's

area of Surrey foot

order! Calm

0:48:280:48:33

yourself, Mr Sheldon. You are

supposed to be auditioning to become

0:48:330:48:39

an elder statesman, but there are

many more auditions to come, on

0:48:390:48:45

present evidence. Calm yourself, it

will be good for your health.

Even

0:48:450:48:49

more money is being siphoned out of

NHS budgets and into private health

0:48:490:48:54

companies. Even in the Health

Secretary's area of Surrey, the

0:48:540:48:58

clinical commissioning group was

forced to pay money to Virgin Care

0:48:580:49:03

because it didn't win a contract.

Will the Prime Minister sure

0:49:030:49:07

patients that, in 2018, less NHS

money intended for patient care will

0:49:070:49:14

be feathering the nests of

shareholders in private health

0:49:140:49:17

companies?

First of all, an Wales,

this government has given more money

0:49:170:49:23

to the Welsh government. It is a

decision of Labour in Wales to

0:49:230:49:32

de-prioritise funding for the NHS in

Wales and, on the issue of the

0:49:320:49:36

private sector and its role in the

health service, under which

0:49:360:49:39

government was it that private

access and private use of the

0:49:390:49:47

private sector in health sector no,

it wasn't. Iron order!

0:49:470:49:54

it wasn't. Iron order!

-- order! I

say to the shadow secretary of state

0:49:540:49:59

for health, he is also supposed to

be auditioning for something.

0:49:590:50:04

LAUGHTER

He is normally a very amiable

0:50:040:50:11

fellow, but he is gesticulating in a

very eccentric fashion. He must calm

0:50:110:50:15

himself. It isn't good for his

image.

I say to the right honourable

0:50:150:50:21

gentleman, first of all, we have put

more money into Wales, but the

0:50:210:50:26

Labour government in Wales has

decided to de-prioritise funding for

0:50:260:50:30

the NHS, and the increase that was

seen in private sector companies

0:50:300:50:33

working in the health service wasn't

under the Conservative government

0:50:330:50:36

but under a Labour government, of

which the right honourable gentleman

0:50:360:50:39

was a member.

My honourable friend,

the Shadow Health Secretary, is

0:50:390:50:47

auditioning to be Health Secretary,

and he shows real passion for our

0:50:470:50:50

NHS. Mr Speaker, under this

government, virgin Care got £200

0:50:500:50:59

million worth of contracts in the

last year alone. 50% up on the year

0:50:590:51:05

before. Mr Speaker, the Prime

Minister needs to understand that it

0:51:050:51:10

is her policies that are pushing our

NHS into crisis. Tax cuts for the

0:51:100:51:18

super-rich and big business are paid

for... Yes, Mr Speaker, they are

0:51:180:51:24

paid for by longer waiting lists,

ambulance delays, staff shortages

0:51:240:51:29

and cuts to social care. Creeping

privatisation is dragging our NHS

0:51:290:51:34

down. He Health Secretary... The

Health Secretary, during his

0:51:340:51:43

occupation of her office to keep his

job, said, he won't abandon the

0:51:430:51:47

ship. Isn't an admission that, under

his captaincy, the ship is indeed

0:51:470:51:52

thinking? --

0:51:520:52:00

thinking? -- sinking?

This

government is putting more money

0:52:020:52:05

into the NHS, we have more doctors

and nurses in the NHS, more

0:52:050:52:08

operations taking place on more

people being treated in accident and

0:52:080:52:15

emergency. But we can only do that,

we can only do that if we have a

0:52:150:52:19

strong economy. What would we see

from the Labour Party? We have

0:52:190:52:24

turned the economy round from the

recession that the Labour Party left

0:52:240:52:27

us with. What do we know... What do

we know about the Labour Party's

0:52:270:52:33

economic policies? We were told all

about them from the description from

0:52:330:52:38

the Shadow Education Secretary, icy

isn't in her place on the front

0:52:380:52:42

bench today. -- who icy isn't in her

place oh, I do apologise. No, I

0:52:420:52:52

didn't realise, Mr Speaker. I did

not realise the Shadow Education

0:52:520:52:57

Secretary was herself undergoing

medical treatment, and I apologise

0:52:570:53:00

unreservedly for that comment. But I

have to say that she did describe

0:53:000:53:04

the economic policies of the Labour

Party in unparliamentary terms,

0:53:040:53:07

including the word bust, but she did

say that the Labour Party's economic

0:53:070:53:15

policy was high risk, which means

high risk for taxpayers, high risk

0:53:150:53:19

for jobs in high risk for our NHS,

and that's a risk we will never let

0:53:190:53:24

them take.

On a positive note on the

NHS, my NHS Trust, Morecambe bay, is

0:53:240:53:34

turned around from being one of the

worst trusts in the country to one

0:53:340:53:37

of the best. That was because of

injections of huge amounts of cash,

0:53:370:53:43

but the staff there were amazing.

They turned that hospital round.

0:53:430:53:46

Jackie Daniels...

Can I gently

invite the honourable gentleman to

0:53:460:53:53

be sensitive to time. What we want

is a long spiel but a short question

0:53:530:53:58

with a question mark at the end.

Jackie Daniels received a game hood

0:53:580:54:04

for turning around Morecambe bay

trust, very positive, along with the

0:54:040:54:12

staff -- received a damehood. Could

the Prime Minister wish Jackie well?

0:54:120:54:20

I'm happy to join my honourable

friend in paying tribute to the work

0:54:200:54:26

of the staff at the Morecambe Bay

trust, and in particular to wish

0:54:260:54:30

Dame Jackie well and to pay tribute

for the work she has done in turning

0:54:300:54:34

that trust around. It's another

example of the huge gratitude we owe

0:54:340:54:39

to the NHS staff who worked so

tirelessly on our behalf.

Can I wish

0:54:390:54:43

you, all staff and members a good

New Year. The government's EU

0:54:430:54:50

Withdrawal Bill is simply not fit

for purpose, and it must be changed.

0:54:500:54:55

These are not my words, these are

the words of the honourable member

0:54:550:55:00

for East Renfrewshire. Does the

Prime Minister agree with her

0:55:000:55:02

colleague that we

0:55:020:55:09

colleague that we must amend clause

11, which is nothing more than a

0:55:090:55:11

power grab from Scotland?

The

honourable gentleman knows full well

0:55:110:55:16

that we have said we will look to

improve clause 11. Indeed, if he was

0:55:160:55:21

in his place when my right

honourable friend, the Chancellor of

0:55:210:55:23

the Jack Stephens Ashbrook of the

Chancellor of the Duchy of

0:55:230:55:27

Lancaster, answered questions

earlier, he made it clear that we

0:55:270:55:30

would continue to look to amend

clause 11. We are however, as we

0:55:300:55:35

discussed before Christmas, we are

looking to work with the devolved

0:55:350:55:39

administrations to ensure we put the

right frameworks in place so that,

0:55:390:55:43

when we come to bring any amendment

forward, it is done in the best

0:55:430:55:47

possible way, in the interests of

all concerned. I thought that has

0:55:470:55:51

been accepted by the SNP, but we

will be looking to bring forward

0:55:510:55:55

amendments in the Lords.

That simply

isn't good enough. The Secretary of

0:55:550:55:59

State for Scotland promised a power

bonanza for Scotland and, crucially,

0:55:590:56:05

amendments would be tabled ahead of

next week's debate. Yesterday it was

0:56:050:56:09

revealed that no amendments would be

launched. The Tories always promised

0:56:090:56:14

Scotland everything and deliver

nothing. The Prime Minister has one

0:56:140:56:18

last chance. Will she assure the

house that these amendments will be

0:56:180:56:23

tabled ahead of next week, as

promised?

The SNP say they want to

0:56:230:56:30

work with us on the frameworks, the

future frameworks, and we are doing

0:56:300:56:36

exactly that. They say they want

clause 11 amended, and we are doing

0:56:360:56:40

exactly that. My right honourable

friend is intensifying his

0:56:400:56:45

discussions with the Scottish

Government and, indeed, with Wales,

0:56:450:56:49

as part of this. We will be bringing

forward amendments. At the

0:56:490:56:54

honourable gentleman says this is a

government that never delivers for

0:56:540:56:57

Scotland. £2 billion extra as a

result of the budget? That is

0:56:570:57:03

delivering for Scotland.

Speaking of

delivering

0:57:030:57:11

delivering for Scotland, Eastleigh

and Clackmannanshire city regime

0:57:110:57:12

deal is a massive investment in

Scotland's economy. -- Stirling and

0:57:120:57:18

Clackmannanshire. With projects like

the UK institute for art and

0:57:180:57:27

culture, and a national centre which

will have a UK wide impact. Will the

0:57:270:57:31

Prime Minister confirmed to me today

now that the UK Government is ready

0:57:310:57:35

to sign off the agreement with the

Scottish Government and the local

0:57:350:57:41

councils so that we can get to work?

I am very happy to give that

0:57:410:57:50

commitment to my honourable friend

and to say this is another example

0:57:500:57:52

of this is a government delivering

for Scotland. I know the importance

0:57:520:57:58

of this particular deal, Stirling

and Clackmannanshire. It will be

0:57:580:58:02

transformative. My honourable friend

has transformed this cause --

0:58:020:58:05

championed this cause since he was

elected, he is doing a great job for

0:58:050:58:09

his constituents and we are working

to get agreement as quickly as

0:58:090:58:12

possible.

I have been contacted by

11 constituents who are frightened

0:58:120:58:17

and many of them suicidal because

they have been told by Ivor Hull or

0:58:170:58:25

East Riding CCG that they're

desperately needed pain infusion

0:58:250:58:28

treatment will be stopped. This is

the cruel reality of the NHS having

0:58:280:58:32

to Russian treatment due to funding

cuts. Will the Prime Minister

0:58:320:58:38

personally intervene to ensure that

Hull and East Riding CCG review

0:58:380:58:41

their decision and guarantee them

the additional funding to allow them

0:58:410:58:47

to deliver it?

We are putting extra

money into the NHS. We are not

0:58:470:58:53

cutting funding for the NHS. CCGs

will be taking individual decisions

0:58:530:59:03

about how they apportion their

funding, but to stand up and suggest

0:59:030:59:06

we are cutting funding to the NHS is

plain wrong.

0:59:060:59:12

plain wrong.

Telford is a rapidly

growing new town, where thousands of

0:59:140:59:18

new houses are built every year, and

people come to Telford to buy their

0:59:180:59:22

home on a new build estate and live

their dreams. But, for far too many,

0:59:220:59:26

the reality is unfinished communal

areas, an adopted roads,

0:59:260:59:33

non-compliance with section 106,

developers failing to take

0:59:330:59:36

responsibility, and the local

passing the buck. Colleagues across

0:59:360:59:42

the health see similar problems in

their constituencies. Will the prime

0:59:420:59:46

ministers agree to strengthen the

rights of homeowners on new build

0:59:460:59:49

estate so that people can come to

Telford or any other new-build area

0:59:490:59:52

and by a new-build home, confident

they can live their dream?

Yes, I am

0:59:520:59:59

happy to say to my honourable

friend, of course, we recognise the

0:59:591:00:03

concern that she has raised. I think

it was a similar issue that the

1:00:031:00:06

honourable member for Weaver Vale

was racing in the first question he

1:00:061:00:11

asked. I understand it is Telford's

50th anniversary, I congratulate

1:00:111:00:15

Telford on that. We are committed to

legislating in relation to the

1:00:151:00:21

factors she has identified, because

it is only fair that freeholders

1:00:211:00:23

should have the same rights as

leaseholders to challenge the

1:00:231:00:28

service charges they are submitted

to.

On a scale between one to ten,

1:00:281:00:33

how does the Prime Minister think

that Brexit is going, with ten being

1:00:331:00:37

purposely, we know what we want to

achieve and how to get it, and one

1:00:371:00:42

being chaotic cluelessness? I know

what I would give the Prime

1:00:421:00:45

Minister, but what would she give

herself?

Can I say to the honourable

1:00:451:00:51

gentleman...

Order!

1:00:511:01:00

gentleman...

Order! Let me just say

to the honourable gentleman, who I

1:01:001:01:03

have known for a long time, I think,

when he comes to reflect on his

1:01:031:01:07

conduct, he will know he can do

better than that. Prime Minister.

1:01:071:01:13

Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can I say to

the honourable gentleman that I

1:01:131:01:19

think anybody who saw the success we

had in negotiating phase one of

1:01:191:01:23

Brexit and getting that sufficient

progress will say that actually this

1:01:231:01:26

is a government that knows what it

is doing, it's getting on with the

1:01:261:01:30

job and it's doing well.

Environmentalists across the UK were

1:01:301:01:41

absolutely delighted with the

announcement of cooperation with the

1:01:411:01:43

Woodland Trust to develop the new

northern forest. Will the Prime

1:01:431:01:46

Minister give assurances that plans

to create new landscapes will not

1:01:461:01:53

obscure the need to protect existing

areas of outstanding natural beauty,

1:01:531:01:59

come and will she confirm her

commitment to protect the Chilterns

1:01:591:02:03

AOM B as we pursue the government's

economic and housing development

1:02:031:02:06

plans?

I would like to congratulate

my honourable friend on becoming a

1:02:061:02:13

game. It is very well deserved. I

can assure her that we are

1:02:131:02:21

continuing to commit to root AONBs

and, as regards the Chilterns, I

1:02:211:02:29

enjoy walking in the Chilterns, I

recognise the value of that

1:02:291:02:32

particular environment, and we are

committed to protecting AONBs.

Thank

1:02:321:02:38

you, Mr Speaker. I was a teacher and

a head teacher for 34 years, so know

1:02:381:02:45

that I speak on behalf of thousands

of teachers and support staff when I

1:02:451:02:52

ask, Prime Minister, in light of the

recent announcement of a falling

1:02:521:02:57

teacher training applications by a

third, will the government listen to

1:02:571:03:01

professionals and fully and fairly

fund our schools and colleges, and

1:03:011:03:07

the toxic culture of targets and

tests, deliver a broad and balanced

1:03:071:03:11

curriculum, and most of all, return

the joy of teaching and learning

1:03:111:03:17

back to our classrooms?

Can I say to

the honourable lady that we are

1:03:171:03:24

putting record sums of money into

our schools. We are ensuring... More

1:03:241:03:32

than that, we are ensuring that we

are seeing increasing standards in

1:03:321:03:35

our schools. That is why today their

1.9 million more children in good or

1:03:351:03:41

outstanding schools than in 2010 and

I hope she would welcome that.

The

1:03:411:03:48

Prime Minister will be aware there

was great potential in the

1:03:481:03:52

south-west to increase prosperity

and productivity, and would she

1:03:521:03:55

confirm how her government will be

backing the south-west, in

1:03:551:03:58

particular, the need to invest in

roads, rail and digital

1:03:581:04:03

infrastructure?

My honourable friend

is right, and he is a great champion

1:04:031:04:06

for the needs of the south-west, and

we want to increase prosperity of

1:04:061:04:10

productivity there and across the

country, but we are taking some

1:04:101:04:12

particular steps. Obviously, across

the country, we are committing

1:04:121:04:19

significant sums of money in

relation to infrastructure

1:04:191:04:23

investment, road investment

strategy, and we are committed to

1:04:231:04:25

creating an expressway to the

south-west. I think this will be

1:04:251:04:29

part of an important development,

investing more than 400 million into

1:04:291:04:32

the rail network in the area, and

over 600,000 homes and businesses in

1:04:321:04:37

the south-west now have access to

superfast broadband, as a result of

1:04:371:04:41

our programme. There is more we can

do for the region and I look forward

1:04:411:04:44

to working with my honourable friend

in doing that.

The Health Secretary

1:04:441:04:49

said that the government wanted to

be the best in the world for cancer

1:04:491:04:55

diagnosis, treatment and care.

Today, according to a memo from the

1:04:551:04:59

head of chemotherapy at Oxford

Churchill hospital, terminally ill

1:04:591:05:02

cancer patients will have their

chemotherapy cut because of a

1:05:021:05:07

massive shortfall in specialist

nurses. Would the Prime Minister

1:05:071:05:13

apologised to cancer patients and

their families for this appalling

1:05:131:05:16

situation?

I say to the honourable

lady that the trust has made clear

1:05:161:05:23

there are no plans to delay the

start of chemotherapy treatment or

1:05:231:05:27

reduce the number of cycles given to

cancer patients. What Simon seasons

1:05:271:05:33

Leeds Stevens has said is happening

is that, over the past three years,

1:05:331:05:38

the highest cancer survival rates

ever, and latest figures show an

1:05:381:05:43

estimated 7000 more people surviving

cancer, after successful NHS cancer

1:05:431:05:46

treatment compared to three years

prior, and we see 3200 more

1:05:461:05:53

diagnostic and therapeutic

radiographers than in 2010, so we

1:05:531:05:55

will continue to look at this and we

will continue to put the funding in

1:05:551:05:59

that enables us to improve treatment

for cancer patients.

With record

1:05:591:06:05

funding, our NHS is doing more than

ever, but when the UK is in the

1:06:051:06:12

bottom third of countries for heart

attack deaths, when we have

1:06:121:06:15

significantly worse survival for

strokes and in France and Germany,

1:06:151:06:19

and when our closest match for

cancer survival is Poland, isn't it

1:06:191:06:23

time to act across this house, back

this week by the Centre for Policy

1:06:231:06:31

Studies, to establish a royal

commission on health and social

1:06:311:06:35

care, in the 70th anniversary year

of our most cherished national

1:06:351:06:40

institution?

My honourable friend is

right that we need to continue to

1:06:401:06:44

look at the NHS and ensure that we

are continuing to improve the

1:06:441:06:50

performance in a variety of areas.

The independent Commonwealth fund

1:06:501:06:52

has been clear that the NHS is the

best health service in the world,

1:06:521:06:57

it's better than systems in Germany

and France in a list of other

1:06:571:07:00

countries that I quoted earlier, but

of course we need to do more to look

1:07:001:07:04

at what we can do, and that is why

we are putting in more funding and

1:07:041:07:08

looking at the better integration of

health and social care underground.

1:07:081:07:12

It's about making sure we make a

change now and doing that

1:07:121:07:15

integration now, because that is

when it will make a difference to

1:07:151:07:17

people.

The Prime Minister said

she'd reshuffled her ministers so

1:07:171:07:24

they looked more like the country

they seek to represent. I am not

1:07:241:07:27

quite sure about that, but in that

spirit, would she acknowledge the

1:07:271:07:32

massive problems we have with the

private rented sector, with absentee

1:07:321:07:38

private landlords? And will she

commit to come and visit Easington

1:07:381:07:40

to give her an appreciation of the

scale of the problems facing many

1:07:401:07:44

working-class communities? In the

spirit of goodwill, would she

1:07:441:07:48

support and give free passage to the

bill on homes fit for habitation

1:07:481:07:54

being promoted by my honourable

friend for Westminster North?

I say

1:07:541:08:02

to the honourable gentleman that I

have fond memories of the time I

1:08:021:08:05

spent in the north-east when I was a

candidate, but we do need to ensure

1:08:051:08:11

that

1:08:111:08:16

that we have a good private rented

sector in this country. I have to

1:08:161:08:19

say to him that the one set of

policies which would damage the

1:08:191:08:23

private rented sector is the set of

policies put forward by his Leader

1:08:231:08:27

of the Opposition.

I was delighted

to hear the Environment Secretary

1:08:271:08:34

last week confirming this

government's commitment to

1:08:341:08:36

supporting farmers after we leave

the EU. Can my right honourable

1:08:361:08:40

friend assure me that, when

designing a future system, the

1:08:401:08:46

unique needs of Scottish farmers and

crofters will be taken into account

1:08:461:08:50

in any such new system?

My

honourable friend is right that, as

1:08:501:08:57

we leave the European Union, we will

be able to put in place our own

1:08:571:09:01

policy of support for farmers. We

want that to be a policy that

1:09:011:09:05

recognises the particular needs of

farmers across all parts of the UK,

1:09:051:09:09

and that will include the needs of

farmers in Scotland. My constituency

1:09:091:09:16

office and local citizens advice

bureau are receiving ever-increasing

1:09:161:09:17

complaints about Pip claims.

Assessments are being refused and

1:09:171:09:25

65% of claims are overturned at

tribunal. This means that tribune is

1:09:251:09:30

taking longer, anything between four

seven months. Can I ask the Prime

1:09:301:09:33

Minister if she agrees that the

assessment service is flawed, and

1:09:331:09:37

what she can do to help avoid

unnecessary stress and hardship

1:09:371:09:41

being caused to my constituents and

those across the country?

I

1:09:411:09:47

understand the point the honourable

gentleman is taking about ensuring,

1:09:471:09:51

as we want to, that these

assessments are conducted as well as

1:09:511:09:54

they can be, and that people are

getting the awards that they in fact

1:09:541:09:58

should be getting and are entitled

to. In fact, since we introduced the

1:09:581:10:05

personal independence payment, we

have carried out around 2.9 million

1:10:051:10:08

assessments. 8% of those have been

appealed, but only 4% of those

1:10:081:10:13

decisions are changed following an

appeal, and in the majority of cases

1:10:131:10:16

it's because new evidence is

presented at the Peel than was

1:10:161:10:19

presented when the original case was

put forward. -- presented at the

1:10:191:10:24

appeal. The DWP continues to look at

ensuring that, when assessments are

1:10:241:10:29

made, they are done properly and

people get the right results.

1:10:291:10:36

people get the right results.

My

constituent Justin Bartholomew was

1:10:371:10:39

just 25 when he committed suicide

late last year. His family are

1:10:391:10:43

convinced is intake of high energy

drinks over 15 cans a day, increased

1:10:431:10:48

his anxiety and contributed to his

death. Given the increased safety

1:10:481:10:53

concerns around the high energy

drink market and the actions of

1:10:531:10:56

people like Jamie Oliver and

Waitrose, would the Prime Minister

1:10:561:11:00

consider introducing a national ban

on the sale of these energy drinks

1:11:001:11:04

for the under 16 's?

My honourable

friend has raised a tragic case, and

1:11:041:11:08

I know the thoughts and sympathies

of the whole house will be with

1:11:081:11:12

family and friends of Justin

Bartholomew. We have introduced the

1:11:121:11:15

soft drinks industry levy and

recognise that the issues around

1:11:151:11:18

drinks that are high in sugar, and

we know that those drinks can be

1:11:181:11:22

damaging to children's health. We

are supporting schools and parents

1:11:221:11:26

to make healthier choices and to be

able to identify those through

1:11:261:11:31

clearer labelling and campaigns, but

this is an issue that the Department

1:11:311:11:34

of Health and social care will

continue to look at, and they will

1:11:341:11:38

continue to look at the scientific

evidence in relation to these

1:11:381:11:40

drinks.

I have a constituent that

escaped an abusive relationship and

1:11:401:11:47

has been passed from pillar to post

between a support agency and new

1:11:471:11:51

child maintenance service. After

four and half years, she has been

1:11:511:11:56

told by the CMS that she has to

start the process all over again

1:11:561:11:59

and, on top of that, they are

insisting she passes on a personal

1:11:591:12:03

and bank details to her ex-partner

to receive payment. We were promised

1:12:031:12:08

agreed to help me resolve this

problem, -- will the Prime Minister

1:12:081:12:12

agree to help me resolve this, and

look at the system that is allowed

1:12:121:12:17

this situation to develop?

I

recognise that there are

1:12:171:12:23

arrangements in place which would

ensure that an individual would not,

1:12:231:12:26

as I understand it, have to pass

their bank details on directly. The

1:12:261:12:30

fact that her constituent has been

asked to do that should be looked

1:12:301:12:34

into, and I'm sure that if she

passes those details to the

1:12:341:12:37

appropriate department they will

look into it.

Does the Prime

1:12:371:12:42

Minister welcomed the findings of

the social research survey that the

1:12:421:12:45

majority of Scots believe the rules

on trade and immigration should be

1:12:451:12:50

the same in Scotland as in the rest

of the UK? It looks like they agree

1:12:501:12:54

we are better together.

I think my

honourable friend has raised an

1:12:541:13:00

important point. People across the

UK want to see controlled

1:13:001:13:04

immigration, and that is people in

Scotland as well as the rest of the

1:13:041:13:07

UK. As we leave the we will be able

to introduce our own immigration

1:13:071:13:12

rules and control that immigration

to Britain from Europe. The only

1:13:121:13:17

point of differentiation is that we

have

1:13:171:13:23

have a Scotland only shortage

occupation list to recognise the

1:13:231:13:27

particular labour market needs in

Scotland but, for the most part,

1:13:271:13:29

that has matched the UK wide

shortage occupation list, and I

1:13:291:13:33

think that shows this is an issue

for the whole UK and we need the

1:13:331:13:37

same policy approach.

In March 2005

in an interview, the Prime Minister

1:13:371:13:43

said, not getting things done and

seen people's lives hurt by

1:13:431:13:48

government bureaucracy makes her

depressed. In light of this comment,

1:13:481:13:52

can the Prime Minister tell me

whether she considered it reasonable

1:13:521:13:55

and acceptable for the DVLA to

withhold my constituent, Mr Coleman

1:13:551:14:00

toss license for over 18 months, is

despite evidence showing he was fit

1:14:001:14:06

and able to drive, as she has not

responded to my letter the 5th of

1:14:061:14:10

December?

I will ensure that the

honourable lady receives a response

1:14:101:14:16

to that letter. She has raised a

particular case in this house and

1:14:161:14:19

I'll need to look at the details,

and I will respond to the letter.

1:14:191:14:24

Last week, 230 job losses were

announced in my constituency, which

1:14:241:14:33

is devastating for Loftus and the

community, where the mine is the

1:14:331:14:38

largest employer. Local members are

agreed it would be incredibly

1:14:381:14:45

helpful if some of the funds

remaining for the 2015 SSI rescue

1:14:451:14:51

package could be we furnished to

support people here? Will the Prime

1:14:511:14:54

Minister agreed to look into this

with the Business Secretary and will

1:14:541:14:56

she commit that agencies will do

everything they can to support

1:14:561:15:04

people affected?

My honourable

friend is right to raise this case

1:15:041:15:06

and it's obviously a worrying time

for the workers affected by the

1:15:061:15:11

announcement for Cleveland potash,

and I say to him that we will be

1:15:111:15:16

helping people find other work in

supporting people affected through

1:15:161:15:20

the DWP's rapid response service,

and we will coordinate with the Tees

1:15:201:15:23

valley combined authority to ensure

that we are working together to get

1:15:231:15:27

the best possible support and make

sure that support is aligned. The

1:15:271:15:33

department for business, energy and

industrial strategy will look at the

1:15:331:15:35

situation is the specific issue he

has raised.

Ava has been a foster

1:15:351:15:39

carer for years. When her privately

rented home failed the electrical

1:15:391:15:44

certificate needed to continue

fostering, a landlord evicted her

1:15:441:15:48

because he didn't want to do the

repairs. So now she and the kids are

1:15:481:15:54

living in council temporary

accommodation in a converted

1:15:541:15:59

warehouse in the middle of a working

industrial estate in Mitcham, and

1:15:591:16:03

the same council who plays her there

are going to withdraw her right to

1:16:031:16:08

foster because her accommodation

isn't good enough. Can the Prime

1:16:081:16:12

Minister tell Ava, kids in care who

need foster carers and the

1:16:121:16:21

overworked British taxpayer how this

makes sense?

1:16:211:16:24

As the honourable lady sets it out,

it doesn't appear to make sense we

1:16:241:16:29

will be losing somebody who has been

a foster carer. I would pay tribute

1:16:291:16:35

to the work her constituent has done

in foster caring. We owe a debt of

1:16:351:16:41

gratitude to those who care as

foster parents and I'm sure has she

1:16:411:16:45

has raised this, the local council

will want to look at this again.

1:16:451:16:58

Thank you, Mr Speaker. While most of

us were celebrating over New Year,

1:16:581:17:08

the crews of Poole-based tug and the

lifeboats were battling seas and

1:17:081:17:13

70mph winds off the coast of Dorset

to prevent a cargo ship from being

1:17:131:17:17

blown on to the rocks. Thanks to the

skill of the tug's crew and the tow

1:17:171:17:24

was fixed.

1:17:241:17:30

was fixed. Will she join me in

praising those involved, not least

1:17:301:17:37

the volunteers.

I'm happy to do

that. Both the tug crews and those

1:17:371:17:46

in the RNLI. Those volunteers in the

RNLI do a fantastic job around the

1:17:461:17:52

coastlines and we owe them a huge

debt of gratitude.

1:17:521:17:56

I'm shocked it has finished. We were

right, Jeremy Corbyn went on the NHS

1:18:071:18:13

and talked about the problems this

winter. Mrs May shot back with

1:18:131:18:20

different figures, saying 2.9

million people were going to A&E. Mr

1:18:201:18:27

Corbyn pointed out 4 million people

waiting for operations. It has been

1:18:271:18:32

summed up by Corbyn, Tories aren't

spending enough on NHS, May, but

1:18:321:18:37

Wales. Corbyn, Tories want to

privatise NHS, May, but Tony Blair.

1:18:371:18:45

Corbyn we love the NHS, May, but we

love the NHS more. That kind of sums

1:18:451:18:51

up where we were. The shadow

Chancellor's office has been in

1:18:511:18:55

touch with us. John Macdonald,

because I said he has been talking

1:18:551:19:00

about, calling for the lynching of

Esther McVeigh. His office said he

1:19:001:19:11

was repeating what somebody else

said. He said, I was in Liverpool,

1:19:111:19:16

some time back, where one of our

union organisers launched the sack

1:19:161:19:23

Esther McVeigh day, I spoke at a

packed meeting and the audience

1:19:231:19:30

kicked off critical of concept of

sacking her, they said, why respect

1:19:301:19:37

we lynching the B... I thought it

said bitch but there are

1:19:371:19:51

said bitch but there are too many

aster Rix.

I didn't think he said

1:19:511:19:55

that.

We are happy to clarify that.

People can make up their minds. Now

1:19:551:20:03

let's discuss Prime Minister's

questions.

1:20:031:20:06

Let's discuss all this

with Leader of the House

1:20:061:20:09

of Commons Andrea Leadsom

and Shadow Work and Pensions

1:20:091:20:11

Secretary Debbie Abrahams.

1:20:111:20:12

Laura Kuenssberg is here too.

1:20:121:20:14

They went on the NHS. It is an issue

of huge potence, but it seeps to be

1:20:141:20:20

an issue on which there is never in

the political debate not that much

1:20:201:20:24

progress.

Not right now or not

necessarily from either of the main

1:20:241:20:31

party leaders, they seem stuck in

the same record, we could probably

1:20:311:20:35

have scripted the exchangeses before

they took place. But the volume of

1:20:351:20:43

questions on the NHS and from a Tory

MP saying isn't it time for a royal

1:20:431:20:50

commission and that is code for we

need a national discussion about the

1:20:501:20:55

future of the health service.

Theresa May did not take up that

1:20:551:20:59

idea or even respond to it. That

session does add credence to the

1:20:591:21:04

feeling that the politics of NHS

will move back to the centre stage.

1:21:041:21:09

If four million people are waiting

for operations, as Jeremy Corbyn

1:21:091:21:14

said, that is a system that isn't

working isn't it?

I have to say

1:21:141:21:19

again the Prime Minister's just

said, the NHS is doing an incredible

1:21:191:21:23

job seeing more people than ever.

It

always sees more people than ever.

1:21:231:21:27

That is right. And it is.

That never

changes.

It is the best health care

1:21:271:21:33

system in the world...

It is the

best according to one fund. But we

1:21:331:21:38

have been through that. If four

million are waiting, how can it be

1:21:381:21:44

the best system in the world?

People

don't have an operation the day

1:21:441:21:49

they're diagnosed, you would have to

explain what does that mean. I like

1:21:491:21:53

even, everyone in this country,

absolutely love and value the work

1:21:531:21:58

of the NHS and the Government is

committed as would be a Labour

1:21:581:22:02

government to making the NHS more

successful and as we were saying,

1:22:021:22:05

what this Government is seeking to

do is to put the power into the

1:22:051:22:10

hands of the professional doctors

and health care managers who know

1:22:101:22:14

best what is needed and can make the

priorities. And some of the

1:22:141:22:20

priorities do mean reorganising at

the local level to try and free up

1:22:201:22:24

beds for more people to be able to

go into hospital for operations. So

1:22:241:22:27

to make it more efficient and more

effective does require that you look

1:22:271:22:31

more locally. But I also think that

combining with social care to make

1:22:311:22:36

sure there is that join up that

krour not finding somebody can't go

1:22:361:22:40

out of hospital, because there is no

one to take care of them at home.

1:22:401:22:45

That is important.

The Prime

Minister gave us an example of the

1:22:451:22:51

NHS succeeding, 2.9 million people

are going to A&E. Why is the number

1:22:511:22:56

of people going to A&E a measure of

success?

I couldn't agree more.

It

1:22:561:23:03

was a question.

I don't think it is.

We need to recognise that half of

1:23:031:23:07

the walk in centres have been closed

by this Government, which was a way

1:23:071:23:12

of actually ensuring that there

wasn't this massive pressure put on

1:23:121:23:17

A&E. Which is the worst place for

somebody who may be potentially ill

1:23:171:23:21

any way to actually go.

Why is it a

measure of success.

I don't think

1:23:211:23:27

the Prime Minister was saying that.

Oh, she did.

She was reflecting the

1:23:271:23:34

fact that A&Es are coping with many

more people all the time. So the

1:23:341:23:42

numbers, the volumes are increasing.

That is one thing that I know the

1:23:421:23:46

health team are looking at.

Isn't

that a failure of our parts of

1:23:461:23:51

system? A failure of the GP system

if people go to A&E.

One of the

1:23:511:23:57

thing this is we are looking at is

how to ensure people going to A&E

1:23:571:24:01

need to go to A&E and are not people

who could go somewhere else, to

1:24:011:24:07

their GP or use NHS online or the

111 service so people would actually

1:24:071:24:13

get the right appropriate care for

their needs.

Let's move on to Brexit

1:24:131:24:20

briefly. As we come to the end of

the programme. Because it will be

1:24:201:24:24

with us throughout 2018 as it was in

2017. What happened to the

1:24:241:24:29

appointment of a minister for

no-deal?

Well, you sort are setting

1:24:291:24:35

out these things as if they were

matters of fact. Nobody said there

1:24:351:24:39

would be a Brexit minister for no

deal. I'm delighted to see the

1:24:391:24:43

refresh of the Brexit team. We have

a great addition to the team. She

1:24:431:24:48

has been very knowledgeable and

committed to making a success of

1:24:481:24:52

Brexit and she is a new addition to

team to help make sure...

Were you

1:24:521:24:58

expecting a minister?

No I was not.

It is a matter for the Prime

1:24:581:25:03

Minister.

A lot of your colleagues

were absolutely expecting that there

1:25:031:25:08

would be a minister for no deal, who

would be allowed to attend the

1:25:081:25:12

cabinet. Many believed they were

told and had assurances over the

1:25:121:25:19

last few months that there would be

probably Steve Baker, well respected

1:25:191:25:29

and well liked Brexiteer. And many

people are cross about the fact that

1:25:291:25:33

this didn't happen. Of course,

reshuffles of course are always you

1:25:331:25:38

know full of chat and gossip and

rumour, but rather a lot of people

1:25:381:25:44

who Theresa May needs on side are

angry that this did not happen and

1:25:441:25:49

they believe they had the assurances

it was going to happen. The reason

1:25:491:25:53

they're so cross is that for some

elements in the Tories and I would

1:25:531:25:58

imagine you would agree, it is

important that Britain credibly

1:25:581:26:06

appears willing to walk away from

the talks if there isn't a decent

1:26:061:26:10

deal.

There is a huge amount of work

going on looking at all possible

1:26:101:26:14

outcomes and I sit on a committee

with Steve Baker where we do look at

1:26:141:26:20

outcomes for all eventualities. That

work has been ongoing for a long

1:26:201:26:23

time and not something you start

doing now. But I do think it has

1:26:231:26:27

been great to see the new

strengthening of team to see fresh

1:26:271:26:31

faces and people with real

expertise.

If the Government had

1:26:311:26:35

appointed a minister for no deal,

Labour would have to appoint an

1:26:351:26:40

opposite number?

We don't

automatically reflect that. So we

1:26:401:26:49

have somebody responsible for social

care. We have had a tight policy

1:26:491:26:53

about social care.

What about the

idea of a minister for no deal?

One

1:26:531:26:58

thing that needs to be done is

tighten up on the impact

1:26:581:27:03

assessments.

What impact

assessments?

Exactly.

An impact

1:27:031:27:09

assessment by any other name.

I

haven't seen them, but I know

1:27:091:27:15

colleagues who have and are

staggered by the lack of information

1:27:151:27:18

in them. And you know, at this stage

around the negotiations it is a real

1:27:181:27:24

worry.

The idea of having a minister

attending cabinet was to give it

1:27:241:27:29

political prominence and have to

voice. Steve Baker already has

1:27:291:27:35

responsibility for that scenario

planning as you suggest, but the

1:27:351:27:38

point was a political signal of

having it around the table and

1:27:381:27:44

Brexiteers are cross it has not

happened.

A lot of it is posturing.

1:27:441:27:49

Surely not.

Brussels writing to

companies, saying you should prepare

1:27:491:27:55

for no deal. Writing in German

newspapers. We only have another

1:27:551:28:00

year of this.

1:28:001:28:02

There's just time to put you out

of your misery and give

1:28:021:28:05

you the answer to Guess The Year.

1:28:051:28:07

The year was...

1:28:071:28:09

2010. If you could press that red

buzzer, we will find the winner.

1:28:091:28:23

The mug is yours! You ready for

another year of Brexit?

Oh yeah, we

1:28:241:28:29

have got to have a deal by October.

After that it will all go away.

Not

1:28:291:28:34

for me.

She is from Glasgow and very

optimistic.

1:28:341:28:41

That's all for today.

1:28:411:28:42

Thanks to our guests.

1:28:421:28:43

The One O'Clock News is starting

over on BBC One now.

1:28:431:28:45

Jo will be here at noon tomorrow

with all the big political

1:28:451:28:48

stories of the day -

do join her if you can.

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Bye bye.

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