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Morning folks - welcome

to the Daily Politics.

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Unemployment in the UK has

fallen again this morning,

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it's good news for Theresa May -

and she probably needs it

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after a bout of cabinet infighting

over whether to spend more public

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money on the NHS.

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Brexit secretary David Davis has

been talking to MPs this morning,

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where it's been claimed the UK

will remain a 'vassal state'

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of the EU for a further

two years, or longer.

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The use of public funds to pay

private sector companies

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like Carillion is still exercising

Labour, it says the party

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is over for outsourcing -

we'll look at what that really

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means.

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All of which and more could come up

when the two party leaders face off

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at Prime Minister's Questions,

we'll bring you all

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the action live from noon.

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All that still to come in the next

90 minutes of public sector

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broadcasting that is so important

to the proper functioning

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of the nation that we expect

all of our viewers to observe

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the strictest cabinet

confidentiality.

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By which of course I mean you should

tell everyone about it

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at every opportunity.

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And joining me for all of it,

two MPs who haven't

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yet made the cabinet -

and so should feel free to keep

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absolutely nothing secret.

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It's the Brexit minister

Robin Walker and the shadow Treasury

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minister Anneliese Dodds.

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Welcome.

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Theresa May is preparing

for Prime Minister's Questions

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in about half-an-hour's time,

and after that she'll fly

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to the Swiss resort of Davos

for the annual gathering

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of the global business

and political elite -

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including this year well-known

establishment types

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like Donald Trump and shadow

chancellor John McDonnell.

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The theme is finding a 'shared

future in a fractured world',

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I have no idea what that means

either.

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So perhaps she's hoping for tips

on dealing with her cabinet,

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which yesterday became the latest

example of a challenge

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to her authority thanks to her

foreign secretary Boris Johnson.

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Lizzie is here to tell us

about the obstacles facing the PM.

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Thanks Andrew and who knows,

Theresa May might even get a little

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'down time' to have some fun

on the slopes.

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After all she does

have some good news,

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figures out this morning show

a fall in unemployment.

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However, there are quite a few

tricky issues that the PM needs

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to navigate if she's to avoid

a 'wipe out'.

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We're now into the second phase

of the Brexit negotiations

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and Mrs May will soon have

to show her hand and outline her

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vision of the transition,

before we finally leave the EU.

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Then of course there's the final

deal, will we mirror the EU's rules

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and regulations to get full access

to their single market?

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Or break away so we can

negotiate our own trade deals?

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The Prime Minister has

a tough course to navigate.

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Away from Brexit, Mrs May is also

facing criticism from

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a number of senior back benchers

with the likes of Nick Boles,

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Grant Shapps and Nicholas Soames

all publicly bemoaning

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what they see as a

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lack of ideas and direction

emanating from the government.

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Then there's the

financial pressures on

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the NHS with a constant stream

of reports of hospitals struggling

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to cope over the winter period.

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One man who claims

to have an answer is

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Boris Johnson, who was planning

to demand spending an extra

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£100 million a week on health

after we leave the EU.

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The Foreign Secretary was slapped

down for going 'off piste'

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in yesterday's cabinet meeting,

but there are rumours that

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Mr Johnson may be on manoeuvres.

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We're not sure whether

that's down hill or not.

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Thank you for that. Let's now have a

look, before we go through some of

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these things, at what the Brexit

secretary David Davis, he is Robin

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Walker's boss, had to say in an

exchange with Jacob Reese-Mogg at

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the Brexit select committee hearing

a little earlier.

Transition is

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different because transition means

we are de facto inside the European

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Union for that period. We are only

out at the end of the transition.

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That's a big shift in government

policy and a big move away from the

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vote in June.

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vote in June.

We don't have

representation on the council and

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the court and so on, we will debate

how we manage that. But I do not

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accept your description.

Will we

accept EU rules?

That is an area of

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some interest. The time it takes to

put a rule into effect, regulation

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into effect in the European Union,

the average is 22 months. The

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proposal we are having is we leave

in 21 months.

Lets start on Europe

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Robin Walker, it is your department,

before we come onto some of the

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other matters raised. If we leave in

March 2019 there is going to be a

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transition period of perhaps up to

two years. Throughout that two years

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we will remain subject to the

rulings of the European Court of

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Justice?

What we said clearly is we

want to have access to the European

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market on the same terms which we

think is in the mutual interest...

I

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will come onto the single market, I

am asking about the European Court

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of Justice.

It will remain the

Supreme Court over that and where it

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rules on the rules of that market we

will have to take account of that.

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We take account of the rulings of

the Supreme Court in the United

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States but we do not follow them

unless we want to. So let me

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clarify, we will remain subject to

the jurisdiction of the European

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Court until 2021?

The implementation

period we would seek to agree would

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say and the same rules, under the

same basis as our current membership

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so yes. But we would be out of our

membership of the European Union, we

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would be doing that for an agreed

time on it.

You say we would be out

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of it but for most people it would

still feel like in. We would still

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remain a member of the customs

union.

We would continue to access

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the customs union on the same basis,

you have to be careful with your

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definitions. If you talk to the EU

we have left...

We would still be

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subject to the external tariffs of

the customs union for two years.

The

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Prime Minister has been clear that's

the case.

And we would remain a

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member of the single market for

another two years?

We would maintain

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our access under the same rules and

regulations.

So we would have all

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the obligations of being in the

single market, the customs union,

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and the ECJ for another two years

without any representation on the

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bodies which run these institutions?

We want to make sure we exit with

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certainty and stability of how

things stand, that businesses and

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government have time to prepare.

That is what the Prime Minister sent

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out to achieve.

Its continuity,

nothing really changes. You're in

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the single market, customs union, do

we continue with the free movement

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of people?

People will be able to

come here to live and work and

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contribute.

Robber still be free

movement?

We will want to introduce

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a registration process...

Wilber

still be free movement?

People will

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be able to come here but they will

need to register to prepare for our

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new immigration system.

If Angela

Merkel and Emmanuel Macron

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get-together and introduce a

transactions tax on financial

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dealings, something Emanuel Macron

is very keen on, say that is

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introduced in the summer of 2019, do

we have to introduce it?

I don't

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think it's possible to get something

that significant through the

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European system, I don't think

realistically...

If they could would

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we have to implement it?

We have to

be clear that the UK has played a

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role and will continue to play a

role in making these decisions right

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up until our exit.

If they introduce

something like a transactions tax

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during the transition period do we

have to implement it?

I don't

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believe that is likely to be the

case, it's a theoretical.

Two years

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is a long while, they could do lots

of things. Labour agrees, want to

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stay in the customs union and single

market and you like the ECJ.

What we

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find frustrating is that Labour has

been saying for a long time that

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until the government gets its act

together we would have two as a

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country accept the reality of

needing a transition period because

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we're not going to be ready. Finally

the government has caught up with it

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but we still have all this

conclusion.

The government is now

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doing what you wanted to do.

Yes but

it is still confused.

We are all

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confused! Do you want to stay in the

customs union after the transition?

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We don't want the government to rule

out options like staying in...

Do

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you think we should stay?

We want

the benefits we currently have

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because we recognise if we were in

the driving seat for negotiations we

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would have to be talking to the

other 27 countries. There are a lot

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of benefits of that union. Relating

to the comment about how the

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government is trying to keep things

on an even keel during this process,

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I have been in the customs bill

committee hearing from businesses

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about how the government is not

taking on the union customs code

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which is not something people

mentioned to me when I was

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campaigning in the referendum. It is

adopting a different process making

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huge disruption for business when it

should have said we will continue

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with the current system.

We have

just passed EU withdrawal bill to

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provide continuity which Labour

proposed.

Because of the power grab.

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Let's come onto the issue which

dominated Cabinet yesterday. We were

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promised by the Leave side there

would be more money for the NHS

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after breakfast, Brexit! After

breakfast as well! We know the NHS

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is currently under severe financial

pressure, so why not make it down

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payment? Why not put more money into

the NHS now?

I fully support

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increasing funding and the NHS and

we are delivering on that. What we

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have seen in 2010 is an increase of

about 12 and a half billion. We saw

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extra money for winter pressures

last year which was vital. I have

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seen the biggest investment in my

hospital since it was built in the

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90s. I think we need to keep up with

investment.

If you are keen on

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investment the last Labour

government run 1987-2010 on average

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in real terms increased NHS spending

by £5 billion a year over that

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period. On average how much have you

increased NHS spending?

We have

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increased it every year.

By how

much?

Billions more going on. About

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2 billion per year.

So you put into

billion per year since 2010 the last

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Labour government put in 5 billion a

year.

That was in the context of the

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government losing control of the

country's debts and running a huge

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deficit...

We had a financial crisis

and you took support of the measures

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we took.

Do you not see the hard of

a problem that under the last Labour

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government spending rose by 5

billion per year on average. Under

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you, just under 2 billion per year

which is the problem because the

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demands on the NHS are ever rising

but the rises in cash you are giving

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it are falling.

I think it's also

about how we invest the money and

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make sure it makes the most

difference, increasing spending on

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mental health which is at the

highest it has ever been can save

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money elsewhere in the system.

It is

clear your 2 billion per year is not

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enough, just look at the NHS, there

might be other things you have to

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do, I'm not saying it's on money,

but it's clear your 2 billion per

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year which is only 40% of what

Labour was putting in terms of the

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increase not enough.

I stood on a

manifesto last election offering a

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more substantial increase to the

NHS, meeting the terms the NHS had

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asked for.

You have not matched the

Labour Party's record. We are in a

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different context.

We had to pick up

the pieces after the financial

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price. We have made the NHS a top

priority.

Except you are still going

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to increase its only by about 2

billion per year.

I do not recognise

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that. What we are seeing will take

us up to about 16 billion...

Let's

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go to 2018-19, on real terms you

will be 126 billion which is 14

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billion more than 2010-11 when he

came to power, that, divided by six

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is less than 2 billion per year. So

you're not increasing it in real

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terms by much at all.

We are every

year and we are taking steps to

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increase the number of front line

staff in the NHS, to make sure we

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have less dependence on the very

expensive agency workers.

10% of

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nursing posts are unfilled. Nurses

are leaving the NHS at a higher rate

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than ever.

We had the biggest

increase in medical training going

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on...

Even in young nurses are

leaving.

I'm sorry, in my local

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trust the number of vacancies is

declining.

That is very unusual.

I

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am sure it is Shangri-La at your

local trust but across the country,

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is this what Nick Boles meant about

your inability to rise to the

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challenge when he called the

government tenet and lacking in

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ambition and what Nicholas Soames

called dull, dull, dull, one Cabinet

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minister said we are governed by

visionless mediocrity that is what

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your government has come to.

Visionless mediocrity.

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I don't think there is anything

visionless. Meeting the demands of

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the NHS, 10 billion more funding in

this government, raising the

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priority on mental health.

Why are

you timid and lacking ambition,

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dull, dull, dull and visionless.

We

had to make sure people see an

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increase in their wages through a

significant increase in the national

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living wage, which we will see this

April.

This is not meeting its,

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these are Conservatives saying it.

It is always good for the

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backbenchers to challenge the

government to do more. We are seeing

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fairer funding for our schools.

What

have you done for the just about

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managing?

We have increased the

national living wage.

That was done

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by George Osborne, what has Theresa

May done?

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May done?

Continuing to drive this,

focusing on productivity, which

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Labour said for many years we

couldn't turn around...

That is one

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quarter's figures.

It is beginning

to show real improvement and that

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means higher wages. We want to

combine that with the lowest paid

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paying less tax.

The figures this

morning show wages are lacking

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behind prices and in real terms,

wages are still falling.

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Productivity is the key...

You said

wages were rising.

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wages were rising. Would Labour

increase NHS spending by £5 billion

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a year?

Yes we would and we set out

how we would do it at the general

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election. We would also

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election. We would also lift the PEI

cap, which is having an impact on

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recruitment.

What was the main

source of the 5 billion a year?

It

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is all set out, for example,

reversing some of the changes to the

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top rate of tax the government said

it wanted to prioritise.

It could

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cost you money?

It could, but we had

many different funding sources. My

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trust is struggling because we

cannot get enough people in and the

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number one reason they cannot work

in my city is because the wages

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cannot keep track of costs.

Let's

move on.

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This time last week we were talking

about the impact of the collapse

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of the construction firm Carillion

and today Labour is trying to force

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a binding vote in the Commons

which would make ministers hand

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over their risk assessments

for the company before it went bust,

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hoping to prove they knew

it was in trouble before

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handing over big contracts.

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Well we know Labour believes this

is a watershed moment in the way

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the public views the use of private

companies to provide public

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services, and this week they set out

more of their thinking.

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Shadow cabinet minister Jon Trickett

said on Monday Labour would change

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the way procurement works

"within hours" of taking office.

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He said on Twitter: "Let me be

clear to the outsourcing

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firms: the party is over.

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A Corbyn Government will

reverse the presumption

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in favour of outsourcing."

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Under a Labour government,

firms will only be be able to bid

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for a public contract if it

meets rules including:

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Giving full union recognition

for their workforce and comply

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with collective

bargaining agreements.

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Move towards a pay ratio of 20-1,

meaning the highest paid employee

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could earn no more than

20 times the lowest.

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And firms would have to agree

to maintain high environmental

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standards and adopt best practices

in equal opportunities.

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Let's have a look at this. Can you

name any FTSE company where the boss

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is paid only 20 times the lowest

paid?

I cannot say to you I know

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exactly what the ratio is for every

FTSE company, but I can say it is a

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mainstream opinion. I saw in the

recent submission, that the

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government hasn't fulfilled its

promise...

Let's look at how it

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would work. You wouldn't get a

government contract unless the

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average pay of the boss was no more

than 20-1. Lockheed and British

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Aerospace are building our new

fighters for the aircraft carriers.

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Neither meets the 20-1 criteria, who

would build our fighters?

We think

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this could change behaviour in the

private sector. When you look at

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other countries who have adopted

similar, that is what happened.

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Really? You are telling me the boss

of Lockheed would take a massive pay

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cut in order to continue to supply

30 firefighters?

We don't think

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essentially government should be

paying for these massive pay

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packets.

If the boss of Lockheed and

Bae, it is bigger in America than

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here now, if these two company say

sorry, we're not cutting executive

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pay. It wouldn't just be the boss it

would be all executives, but they

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wouldn't do it, who would supply the

fighters?

We would have to change

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that business behaviour.

If they

don't change, who would supply them.

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Who is going to innovate new F35

fighter which has been 15 years in

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development and still not ready for

our carriers?

We need to look at

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this system from start to end,

because we're not talking about pay

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issues, but also export credit

guarantees...

But Bae, it is the one

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that jumps out. The NHS, it is a

huge success story of this country,

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we have some of the biggest

pharmaceutical companies in the

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world and they supplied drugs to the

NHS. Their executives are paid more

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than 20-1, who would supply our

drugs if they didn't change the PEI

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ratio?

Labour isn't saying we want

every single company in the whole

0:22:060:22:12

country to change.

You have said it

would be a condition of getting a

0:22:120:22:17

public contract that the pay ratio

is 20-1, so who would provide the

0:22:170:22:24

drugs?

You are not outsourcing

services, you are purchasing the

0:22:240:22:30

drugs from them. The NHS has done

that. We're looking at things like

0:22:300:22:34

cleaning and catering.

IT, you

outsource massively. Hewlett

0:22:340:22:41

Packard, IBM and the French company

have been named as part of the top

0:22:410:22:47

20 companies you outsource to.

Hewlett Packard is a massive

0:22:470:22:50

American company. Who do you go to

if they will not cut their American

0:22:500:22:58

executive pay?

We need to look at

how we would do with multinational

0:22:580:23:02

companies like that.

How would you

deal with that?

I accept it is

0:23:020:23:09

something the Labour government

wasn't always perfect act, but we

0:23:090:23:12

have many problems at the moment and

we need more accountability for that

0:23:120:23:17

process. If that means potentially

more firms coming in who don't have

0:23:170:23:21

that...

What British company could

do that Hewlett Packard does for the

0:23:210:23:28

government?

We have these contracts

going to these huge firms that

0:23:280:23:32

haven't delivered. It might mean

smaller portions of these contracts

0:23:320:23:37

going to different firms.

0:23:370:23:43

going to different firms.

The French

company, is massive, what if they

0:23:430:23:48

say we don't want British contracts

any more, where do you go?

At this

0:23:480:23:55

point, I cannot say off the top of

my head, but the public are fed up

0:23:550:24:01

with the system where taxpayers are

supporting very, very high pay

0:24:010:24:05

packets. Through that public purse

and that has got to end. Government

0:24:050:24:11

activity can change these issues.

Theresa May herself for saying she

0:24:110:24:14

was thinking of looking at this

issue of pay ratios, not just for

0:24:140:24:20

outsourcing, but for the whole

economy. She hasn't done that.

It is

0:24:200:24:27

your policy, the Spanish

construction company, key to the

0:24:270:24:31

Crossrail programme going on, could

be key to the new Crossrail going

0:24:310:24:35

from north to south. Its boss is

paid £3.7 million. Unless he cuts

0:24:350:24:43

his pay on your ratio, to around

£400,000, he couldn't bid for these

0:24:430:24:50

contracts?

We believe there should

be a change in that kind of pay

0:24:500:24:53

system and we have been upfront

about that.

No major international

0:24:530:25:00

construction company would not be

able to bid for a contract?

That is

0:25:000:25:05

not the case. We think people would

cut their pay, potentially.

You

0:25:050:25:10

think they would cut their pay to

get a British contract?

When we are

0:25:100:25:17

looking at international firms, we

need to focus on the national

0:25:170:25:21

leadership and management.

So in

international company could get a

0:25:210:25:24

construction contract with the boss

being paid millions, but a British

0:25:240:25:28

company wouldn't get it unless the

boss wasn't paid very much?

That is

0:25:280:25:34

not what I said, I said about the

leadership within the country so we

0:25:340:25:39

would compare like with like.

You

haven't thought this idea through,

0:25:390:25:46

have you?

We have. The government

said itself it would look at these

0:25:460:25:51

pay ratios but it has abandoned

that.

You name one company that

0:25:510:25:59

would fall in with that. It would be

an infrastructure programme that

0:25:590:26:02

would be dead on arrival because

nobody would be around to do it

0:26:020:26:06

because they wouldn't have you

fixing their executive's pay.

Unless

0:26:060:26:12

we grasp this nettle of high pay at

the top end as we have seen falling

0:26:120:26:17

wages at the bottom end, we will

have continued public anger around

0:26:170:26:22

this problem. Labour is trying to do

something about it.

I understand

0:26:220:26:27

that and that is why I am

questioning you. But I think we have

0:26:270:26:30

gone as far as we can today.

0:26:300:26:35

The United States experienced

another government shutdown

0:26:350:26:37

at the weekend, which means many

government agencies stopped working

0:26:370:26:39

and thousands of federal employees

are placed on temporary unpaid leave

0:26:390:26:42

because of a disagreement over

the Budget in Congress.

0:26:420:26:44

The White House released a series

of photographs of president

0:26:440:26:49

Donald Trump to show he at least

was hard at work

0:26:490:26:52

to end the shutdown.

0:26:520:26:54

Here he is in the Oval Office.

0:26:540:26:55

Critics of the president,

of which there are many,

0:26:550:26:57

were quick to claim that it looked

perhaps a teensy bit staged.

0:26:570:27:03

I don't think so, it is always like

that.

0:27:030:27:08

Certainly the desk looks a bit

empty, although he's previously been

0:27:080:27:11

criticised for having a busy desk

so perhaps that just shows

0:27:110:27:14

you can't win them all.

0:27:140:27:15

Sadly the White House didn't relate

who exactly the president

0:27:150:27:17

was calling although we understand

it was a matter of

0:27:170:27:20

national importance.

0:27:200:27:26

PHONE RINGS

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Excuse me.

0:27:270:27:28

Hello?

0:27:280:27:29

Mr President?

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What's that?

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You'd like a Daily Politics mug?

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I'm sorry but you'll just have

to enter Guess the Year

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just like everyone else.

0:27:350:27:39

Stop watching Fox and watch the BBC.

Then you might have a chance.

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Remember to wrap up warm at Davos.

0:27:460:27:50

Goodbye. Try not to bother me again.

0:27:500:27:57

I need to have another word

with the BBC switchboard.

0:27:570:27:59

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edition Daily Politics mugs,

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# Lightning strikes

every time she moves #.

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CHANTING:

Save our

NHS, save our NHS!

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# I'm only human after all.

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# You're only human after all.

0:28:220:28:23

# Don't put the blame on me.

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# Don't put your blame on me #.

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# So far away, but still so near.

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# The lights come up,

the music dies.

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# But you don't see

me standing here.

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# I just came to say goodbye #.

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# You watch me bleeding

till I can't breathe.

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# Shaking, falling onto my knees#.

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# We've got a whole lot of history.

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# We could be the greatest team

that the world has ever seen.

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# You and me got

a whole lot of history.

0:29:080:29:13

# So don't let it go,

we can make some more.

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# We can live for ever #.

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I know

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Sorry.

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We talked earlier in the programme

about David Davis and the European

0:30:400:30:44

Court of Justice continuing to have

jurisdiction over us through the

0:30:440:30:50

transition period. How has that gone

down?

Use a transition period but

0:30:500:30:58

many Brexiteers would rather see

implementation phase.

The Prime

0:30:580:31:05

Minister has been using that phrase

but we know it is transition.

It's

0:31:050:31:13

absolutely vital that it is an

implementation phase for some loud

0:31:130:31:17

voices on the Tory backbenches. The

viewers want to throw their

0:31:170:31:22

dictionary at the TV, the important

distinction and white Brexiteers are

0:31:220:31:24

worried about people talking about

transition as David Davis did this

0:31:240:31:31

morning is that an implementation

phase as set out by the Prime

0:31:310:31:34

Minister, the whole idea is that

both sides...

I'm going to up to

0:31:340:31:39

stop you, we will come back to this

but for the moment I apologise we go

0:31:390:31:42

straight to the House of Commons.

0:31:420:31:44

This morning I had meetings with

ministerial colleagues and others in

0:31:510:31:55

addition to my duties in this house

I shall have other such meetings

0:31:550:31:58

later today and later I will travel

to Switzerland to attend the World

0:31:580:32:04

Economic Forum and I might even bump

into the Shadow Chancellor why I am

0:32:040:32:07

near!

0:32:070:32:12

As you know, last week was the very

successful launch of the engineering

0:32:130:32:20

campaign aimed at changing the

perception of engineering and

0:32:200:32:23

inspiring the next generation of

engineers, I know the Prime Minister

0:32:230:32:27

is personally committed to this

campaign so can I invite her to join

0:32:270:32:30

me and 80,000 young people at this

year 's Big Bang fair to reinforce

0:32:300:32:35

the message that engineering is a

great career and open to anyone

0:32:350:32:39

regardless of background, ethnicity

and gender.

My honourable friend

0:32:390:32:45

makes an important point, this issue

of engineering particularly for more

0:32:450:32:50

women seeing engineering as a career

is something I have promoted for

0:32:500:32:54

many years now. Engineers are vital

to our economy and that is why we

0:32:540:32:57

want to see everyone and it's not

just about gender, it is background

0:32:570:33:02

and ethnicity, everybody whatever

their background having the chance

0:33:020:33:05

to build a career in engineering and

the year of engineering gives us a

0:33:050:33:09

great opportunity to work with

business to do exactly that. If I

0:33:090:33:14

have the opportunity, if my daddy

allows, I would be happy to attend

0:33:140:33:18

what he refers to. -- if my diary

allies.

I join in the Prime Minister

0:33:180:33:27

in commemorating Holocaust Memorial

Day, many members will attend the

0:33:270:33:31

events tomorrow, we have to teach

all generations that the descent

0:33:310:33:36

into Nazism and the Holocaust must

never, ever be repeated. Anywhere on

0:33:360:33:40

this planet. Does the Mr mac agree

with the Foreign Secretary that the

0:33:400:33:46

National Health Service needs an

extra £5 billion?

0:33:460:33:53

extra £5 billion?

I think the right

honourable gentleman, as I recall

0:33:560:33:59

was here in the chamber for the

autumn budget given by my right

0:33:590:34:04

honourable friend the Chancellor of

the Exchequer where he announced we

0:34:040:34:06

would be putting £6 billion more

into the National Health Service.

0:34:060:34:12

The only problem with that Mr

Speaker is that it was 2.8 billion

0:34:120:34:16

spread like thin gruel over two

years. Two weeks ago the Prime

0:34:160:34:21

Minister told the house and I quote

it is indeed the case that the NHS

0:34:210:34:25

was better prepared this winter than

ever before. 68 senior accident and

0:34:250:34:31

emergency doctors have written to

the Prime Minister about what they

0:34:310:34:35

describe as serious concerns for the

safety of our patients, they say

0:34:350:34:40

patients are being treated in

corridors and they are dying

0:34:400:34:43

prematurely. Who should the public

believe, the Prime Minister or the

0:34:430:34:48

doctors?

It is right that the NHS

was better prepared for this winter

0:34:480:34:55

than it ever has been before. We saw

3000 more beds being brought into

0:34:550:35:02

use over the winter period. We

sought the use of the one-on-one

0:35:020:35:08

call system leading to the

significant reduction in the number

0:35:080:35:14

of call-outs. We have seen changes

made in accident and emergency with

0:35:140:35:19

GP streamlining helping to ensure

that people who do not need to go

0:35:190:35:23

into hospital went into hospital.

Overall, overall we have seen 2.8

0:35:230:35:28

million more people last year

visiting accident and emergency than

0:35:280:35:36

did so in 2010. Our NHS is indeed

providing for patients. There are

0:35:360:35:41

winter pressures, we were prepared

for those winter pressures and we

0:35:410:35:45

will ensure, as we have done every

year under this Conservative

0:35:450:35:50

government that the NHS receives

more funding.

Mr Speaker since 2010

0:35:500:35:58

we have lost 14,000 NHS beds, the

King 's fund, the health foundation

0:35:580:36:02

and Nuffield trust all agreed the

NHS and needs another 4 billion. In

0:36:020:36:08

December, the month just gone, NHS

England recorded its worst ever

0:36:080:36:13

accident and emergency performances

with more patients than ever waiting

0:36:130:36:17

over four hours. Now the UK

Statistics Authority say the numbers

0:36:170:36:21

might be worse because the figures

have been fiddled. Can the Prime

0:36:210:36:26

Minister tell the house when figures

calculated in line with previous

0:36:260:36:29

years will be published?

I have to

say to the right honourable

0:36:290:36:35

gentleman that the NHS is open and

publishing a whole variety of

0:36:350:36:38

figures in relation to the targets

it has. We are putting more money

0:36:380:36:43

into the NHS every year and we are

continuing to do that. If he wants

0:36:430:36:49

to talk about figures and targets

being missed... Yes the latest

0:36:490:36:54

figures show that in England 497

people were waiting more than 12

0:36:540:37:00

hours. But the latest figures also

show that under the label government

0:37:000:37:06

in Wales -- under the Labour

government in Wales 3471 people were

0:37:060:37:11

waiting...

The Prime Minister is

responsible for the underfunding of

0:37:110:37:17

the Welsh government. And despite

that, despite that, the overall

0:37:170:37:26

Welsh Labour health budget has grown

by 5% in 2016-17. It is Labour Wales

0:37:260:37:33

with the problem of underfunding

from a Conservative government based

0:37:330:37:37

on Westminster. So far Mr Speaker

this winter 100,000 patients have

0:37:370:37:44

been forced to wait more than 30

minutes in the back of an ambulance

0:37:440:37:48

in NHS England for which is she is

responsible. Yet still the Prime

0:37:480:37:53

Minister refuses to give the NHS the

money it needs. Can she tell us how

0:37:530:37:59

many more patients will face

life-threatening weights in the back

0:37:590:38:02

of ambulances this winter?

I say to

the right honourable gentleman that

0:38:020:38:08

of course we want to ensure that

people are not waiting in those

0:38:080:38:12

ambulances. But the only answer he

ever comes up with is the question

0:38:120:38:15

of money. No, no, this is... The

question... The question is this,

0:38:150:38:26

the question is this, why are there

are some hospitals where the

0:38:260:38:31

percentage of patients waiting more

than 30 minutes is zero and other

0:38:310:38:36

hospitals where the percentage of

patients waiting more than 30

0:38:360:38:41

minutes is considerably higher? If

he wants to talk about funding

0:38:410:38:44

perhaps we should look at what the

Labour Party promised that the last

0:38:440:38:47

general election last year... It's

all very well shadow ministers

0:38:470:38:51

shouting about the comparison of

money, the point is that at the last

0:38:510:38:58

election the Institute for Fiscal

Studies said this, Labour and the

0:38:580:39:02

Conservatives are pretty much on the

same page. There is not much to

0:39:020:39:06

choose between them in terms of the

money they will put into the NHS.

A

0:39:060:39:12

Labour government would not be

underfunding the NHS, a Labour

0:39:120:39:16

government would not be privatising

the NHS, a Labour government would

0:39:160:39:21

not be underfunding social care, a

Labour government would be committed

0:39:210:39:24

to an NHS free at the point of use

as a human right. Mr Speaker,

0:39:240:39:30

according to the whistle-blower, as

many as... Hang on, hang on,

0:39:300:39:38

according to a whistle-blower, as

many as 80 patients were harmed or

0:39:380:39:42

died following significant ambulance

delays over a three-week period this

0:39:420:39:48

winter. This is a very serious

situation and the Prime Minister

0:39:480:39:52

must be aware of it. What

investigation is the Department of

0:39:520:39:56

Health carrying out into these

deeply alarming reports?

When we

0:39:560:40:02

hear reports of that sort of course

they are very alarming. That is why

0:40:020:40:07

the Department of Health does make

sure that investigations take place.

0:40:070:40:11

That might be undertaken by the

Department of Health or by the

0:40:110:40:15

particular trust involved, the

ambulance trust or the hospital but

0:40:150:40:19

these issues are investigated

because we don't want to see that

0:40:190:40:21

happening. We want to see people

properly cared for and if there were

0:40:210:40:25

lessons to learn to them they will

be learned because we want to do is

0:40:250:40:30

that our support for the NHS is

about providing it with the funding,

0:40:300:40:35

doctors and nurses, treatment and

capabilities that it needs in order

0:40:350:40:39

to deliver for patients. That is why

we are backing the NHS with more

0:40:390:40:43

funding, that is why we ensure they

get the best treatments and survival

0:40:430:40:47

rates for cancer are higher than

they have ever been before. It is

0:40:470:40:50

why we are ensuring better joined up

services across the NHS and social

0:40:500:40:55

care so those people who do not need

to go into hospital are able to be

0:40:550:41:03

cared for at home and it is why we

are ensuring we are reducing waste

0:41:030:41:06

in the NHS so taxpayers money is

spent as effectively as may be on

0:41:060:41:08

patient care. That is a plan for the

NHS but it is a plan which put

0:41:080:41:13

patients first.

Mr Speaker, the

Prime Minister must be aware of

0:41:130:41:19

ambulances backed up in hospital car

parks with nurses treating patients

0:41:190:41:23

in the back of ambulances, ambulance

drivers and paramedics desperate to

0:41:230:41:27

get on to deal with the next patient

cannot leave because the patient

0:41:270:41:30

they are dealing with at that moment

cannot get into the accident and

0:41:300:41:35

emergency department. It has been

reported a man froze to death

0:41:350:41:39

waiting 16 hours for an ambulance.

Last week a gentleman wrote to me

0:41:390:41:43

saying my friends 93-year-old father

waited four hours for an ambulance

0:41:430:41:48

after a fall. These are not isolated

cases. These are common parlance all

0:41:480:41:55

over the country. It needs money, it

needs support and it needs it now.

0:41:550:42:02

The Prime Minister is frankly in

denial about the state of the NHS,

0:42:020:42:07

even the absent Foreign Secretary

recognises it by the Prime Minister

0:42:070:42:11

is not listening. People using the

NHS can see from their own

0:42:110:42:16

experience it is being starved of

resources. People are dying

0:42:160:42:20

unnecessarily in the back of

ambulances and in hospital

0:42:200:42:22

corridors. GP numbers are down.

Nurses are leaving. The NHS is in

0:42:220:42:30

crisis. Mr Speaker, Tory MPs might

not like it but I ask this question

0:42:300:42:39

of the Prime Minister, when is she

going to face up to the reality and

0:42:390:42:44

take action to save the NHS from

death by a thousand cuts?

There is

0:42:440:42:53

only one part of the NHS which has

been cut, seen a cut in its funding,

0:42:530:42:59

it is the NHS in Wales under a

Labour government. This is a

0:42:590:43:07

government, this is a government

that is backing the NHS plan, that

0:43:070:43:11

is putting more money into the NHS,

that is recruiting more doctors and

0:43:110:43:16

nurses, that is seeing new

treatments come on board which

0:43:160:43:19

ensure people are getting the best

treatment that they need. This is a

0:43:190:43:23

government that recognises the

priorities of the British people.

0:43:230:43:27

Priority is to ensure the NHS

remains a world-class health care

0:43:270:43:32

system, indeed the best health care

system in the world. Priority is to

0:43:320:43:36

build the homes people need, to make

sure our kids are in good schools.

0:43:360:43:41

This is a government which is

building a country which works for

0:43:410:43:46

everyone, a country in which... A

country in which people can look to

0:43:460:43:51

the future with optimism and hope.

Thank you Mr Speaker, the British

0:43:510:43:58

people need to be confident in the

integrity of our voting system. So

0:43:580:44:03

what is my right honourable friend

doing to follow up on Sir Eric

0:44:030:44:06

Pickles report securing the ballot

to minimise voter fraud, whether

0:44:060:44:12

this is for referenda, general

elections or local elections?

My

0:44:120:44:17

honourable friend raises an

important point, can I congratulate

0:44:170:44:22

him for a very good council

by-election result, the

0:44:220:44:26

Conservatives taking a seat from the

Labour Party. But he raises an

0:44:260:44:31

important issue about strengthening

our process and enhancing the

0:44:310:44:35

confidence people have in our

democratic processes. We will

0:44:350:44:39

shortly be running pilot screams in

five local authorities to identify

0:44:390:44:46

voter ID by nationality, and in

Tower Hamlets and slow and

0:44:460:44:49

Peterborough they will pilot

measures to improve the proxy and

0:44:490:44:54

postal vote process. Democracy

matters but it's important people

0:44:540:44:56

have true faith in it.

Can I wish

you a happy Burns day for tomorrow

0:44:560:45:04

Mr Speaker and can I associate

myself with the remarks of the Prime

0:45:040:45:08

Minister for Holocaust Memorial Day,

we should never forget the horrible

0:45:080:45:12

tragedy and the price people had to

pay but we should remember a

0:45:120:45:15

genocide happening in many

territories since that time as well

0:45:150:45:18

and we must work to eradicate that

scourge our society. Mr Speaker,

0:45:180:45:25

earlier this week the Royal Bank of

Scotland chief executive officer

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admitted in a leaked memo that

closing 22 local branches would be

0:45:280:45:36

painful for customers. 13 towns are

to lose their last bank in Scotland.

0:45:360:45:40

Prime Minister I will give you one

other opportunity, as the majority

0:45:400:45:45

shareholder will you meet with RBS

and make the case to keep the

0:45:450:45:50

branches open?

0:45:500:45:55

The right honourable gentleman has

asked me this on a number of

0:45:560:45:58

occasions and I have made the point

in every answer, and that will not

0:45:580:46:05

change today. We do have a duty as a

government and we look at how the

0:46:050:46:10

market is working. That is why we

establish the access to banking

0:46:100:46:16

standard that commits banks to carry

out a certain number of steps before

0:46:160:46:19

closing a branch and that is why we

welcome the post office but welcome

0:46:190:46:24

customers to use Post Office

services. 99% of personal customers

0:46:240:46:29

can carry out their day-to-day

banking at a post office as a result

0:46:290:46:33

of a new agreement. People are

covered by the services they need.

I

0:46:330:46:39

would say to the Prime Minister, we

owned RBS and it is time you took

0:46:390:46:44

responsibility. By closing these

branches and replacing some with a

0:46:440:46:49

mobile banking vans which do not

provide disability access, The Royal

0:46:490:46:54

Bank of Scotland appears to be in

breach of the UK a quality act. A

0:46:540:47:00

wheelchair user has described using

this as degrading. Does the Prime

0:47:000:47:08

Minister agree RBS has the

responsibility to deliver services

0:47:080:47:13

to disabled people and will she be

held accountable and this issue.

We

0:47:130:47:19

all want to be able to see that all

customers are able to access the

0:47:190:47:24

services they need. That is

customers who are disabled and

0:47:240:47:28

customers who live in remote areas.

As I have said, this is a commercial

0:47:280:47:33

decision taken by The Royal Bank of

Scotland. Banks are closing

0:47:330:47:39

branches, other banks are closing

branches because what they see is

0:47:390:47:43

less use being made of those

branches. As the right honourable

0:47:430:47:49

gentleman has been talking about

matters financial, I am sorry he

0:47:490:47:52

wasn't able to welcome the fact the

trade figures for Scotland showed

0:47:520:47:57

their biggest export market remains

the rest of the United Kingdom.

0:47:570:48:02

Damian Green.

0:48:020:48:07

Damian Green.

Thank you. It is

easier asking them than answering

0:48:080:48:11

them. It is vital for long-term

prosperity the government maintains

0:48:110:48:16

infrastructure investment. With this

in mind and especially as proposals

0:48:160:48:23

for new bridges are fashionable, can

I ask the Prime Minister to commit

0:48:230:48:27

the government to a practical idea,

which is an early start on the lower

0:48:270:48:32

Thames crossing between Kent and

Essex which would create 5000 jobs,

0:48:320:48:36

relieve pressure on the motorway

network and provide a boost to the

0:48:360:48:40

economy of the whole eastern side of

England?

Prime Minister.

My right

0:48:400:48:47

honourable friend is right in

drawing attention to the impact of

0:48:470:48:50

infrastructure when it is developed

in various parts of the UK. In terms

0:48:500:48:55

of the Thames crossing it will

unlock growth for the region and

0:48:550:49:01

offer new connections and better

journeys. It is the best investment

0:49:010:49:07

in the road network in a generation.

Highways England have announced the

0:49:070:49:11

preferred route last year. I

recognise this has raised concerns

0:49:110:49:16

in effect constituencies, but can I

get sure that there will be further

0:49:160:49:21

opportunities for those who both

support the proposals and those who

0:49:210:49:25

do not, they can give their views

and have their say. But he is right,

0:49:250:49:31

infrastructure developments can make

an impact, not just on jobs during

0:49:310:49:35

the infrastructure but on the

economy locally and nationally.

0:49:350:49:43

Outside the customs union, many UK

businesses would face, complex and

0:49:430:49:48

punitive rules of origin tariffs.

Given the Prime Minister's aim of

0:49:480:49:55

frictionless trade post Brexit, can

she confirm if it is her intention

0:49:550:49:59

to pursue a customs union with the

EU?

I have said this on many

0:49:590:50:04

occasions and I am happy to repeat

it. Leaving the European Union means

0:50:040:50:09

we will be leaving the single

market, we will no longer be members

0:50:090:50:13

of the customs union. We want to

sign and implement trade deals with

0:50:130:50:17

other parts of the world as part of

an independent trade pussy. But in

0:50:170:50:25

the negotiations we are looking

forward to for Abbas but feel, we

0:50:250:50:28

will be looking for a tariff free

and frictionless trade agreement as

0:50:280:50:34

possible.

0:50:340:50:39

possible.

Many members on both sides

of the House, myself included have

0:50:390:50:45

expressed concern over the Ministry

of Defence. The Ministry of -- this

0:50:450:50:53

government will always take longer

to protect this country.

My

0:50:530:51:00

honourable friend has raised an

important subject. In July the

0:51:000:51:05

government initiated the National

security capability review, which

0:51:050:51:08

was in support of the

implementation, ongoing

0:51:080:51:13

implementation of the 2015 national

security review, to ensure we do

0:51:130:51:20

indeed, have the capabilities, the

investment in those capabilities we

0:51:200:51:23

need in our national security and

that investment, those capabilities

0:51:230:51:28

are as effective and joined up as

possible. I have agreed the

0:51:280:51:34

high-level findings with ministers

at the National Security Council and

0:51:340:51:37

have directed the work should be

finalised with a view to publishing

0:51:370:51:41

a report on this in late spring. It

has been significant and it will

0:51:410:51:45

ensure we have the right

capabilities. As part of that we

0:51:450:51:49

realise more work was needed on

defence to work on modernising

0:51:490:51:53

defence. We want to ensure the

defence budget is being spent

0:51:530:51:58

intelligently and efficiently and we

are investing in the capabilities we

0:51:580:52:01

need to keep the nation safe. And

the Defence Secretary will update

0:52:010:52:06

the House on this in due course.

It

is a tragedy that in the past year

0:52:060:52:12

knife crime has risen by 26%. The

youth of Ireland's commission is

0:52:120:52:18

conducting the first National youth

survey to look at their experiences

0:52:180:52:22

of trauma and violence. Will the

Prime Minister meet with me to

0:52:220:52:27

discuss the causes of youth violence

and how we can find solutions?

Can I

0:52:270:52:33

say to the honourable lady, it is an

important issue and we need to look

0:52:330:52:37

at this issue. Although she won the

crimes that are traditionally

0:52:370:52:42

measured by the National crime

survey have dropped over a third

0:52:420:52:46

since 2010, we need to consider

these issues of the root causes of

0:52:460:52:51

violence, among young people and

these knife crimes we seek among

0:52:510:52:55

young people. It is important we

remain adaptable and resilient and

0:52:550:52:59

we need to understand that. I am

sure the Home Secretary will be

0:52:590:53:03

happy to meet her to talk about

youth violence and the causes.

On

0:53:030:53:11

the 28th of December, the East of

England Ambulance Service attended

0:53:110:53:15

and addressed in lower soft in which

a man was sadly confirmed of having

0:53:150:53:19

died. It followed on from a call

from the previous afternoon from the

0:53:190:53:24

police regarding the same person who

was left outside in inhospitable

0:53:240:53:34

conditions. I have spoken to the

person who made the initial call and

0:53:340:53:38

I have concerns over how the matter

was handled by the case only came to

0:53:380:53:42

light in the last few days. I would

ask the Prime Minister to endorse

0:53:420:53:46

the request I have made to the east

of England Ambulance Service and

0:53:460:53:50

Suffolk police to immediately

instigate an independent enquiry to

0:53:500:53:55

establish exactly what happened and

to then put in place measures to

0:53:550:53:58

ensure such a tragic event does not

happen again?

Can I share his

0:53:580:54:04

concerns about this event, about

what happens, the tragedy that

0:54:040:54:10

happened here. We should recognise

our Ambulance Services, those

0:54:100:54:15

delivering services, work hard and

regularly go above and beyond the

0:54:150:54:19

call of duty to ensure our safety.

But there have been concerns raised

0:54:190:54:23

about the service in the East of

England ambulance trusts, including

0:54:230:54:27

this very, very worrying and tragic

case is my honourable friend has

0:54:270:54:31

raised. As I said in response to the

Leader of the Opposition earlier, we

0:54:310:54:37

take these cases very seriously. Any

claims patient safety has been put

0:54:370:54:42

at risk are taken seriously and the

Department of Health and social care

0:54:420:54:48

has received assurances these

reports are being investigated by

0:54:480:54:50

the trust as a serious incident. It

is an issue that my honourable

0:54:500:54:56

friend, the Minister of the health

has discussed with executives of NHS

0:54:560:55:01

England and NHS improvement.

3

million people in this country live

0:55:010:55:08

in homes that are unfit, posing a

threat to their health and safety.

0:55:080:55:12

It costs the NHS billions. The House

gave the secondaries into my housing

0:55:120:55:18

fitness pill which will give tenants

new legal rights to act against the

0:55:180:55:25

worst landlords. I was grateful to

have the support of the government

0:55:250:55:29

and the backing of these benches.

But time the Private member 's'

0:55:290:55:36

bills are limited and tenants cannot

wait. Canty ensure this important

0:55:360:55:40

bill will make rapid progress and

become law.

The honourable lady

0:55:400:55:46

raises an important point. We have

seen, over the last six or seven

0:55:460:55:51

years, a significant number of homes

now meeting the decent homes

0:55:510:55:56

standard. The condition in which

people are living is important and I

0:55:560:55:59

will ask the Leader of the House to

look at the issues she has raised

0:55:590:56:03

about her own bill.

Trudy Harrison.

Cumbria is internationally

0:56:030:56:11

celebrated for its lakes and

mountains and known for nuclear

0:56:110:56:14

excellence. This afternoon

Parliament is hosting a taste of

0:56:140:56:20

Cumbria, showcasing our final food

and rent. Can I extend a warm

0:56:200:56:25

invitation to yourself and the Prime

Minister, to come along and sample

0:56:250:56:29

some of our finest fare?

Can I say

to my honourable friend, I am afraid

0:56:290:56:37

my diary does not permit me to

attend that event this afternoon,

0:56:370:56:42

but if I can drop a hint, I

understand there was a taste of

0:56:420:56:46

Lincolnshire offend recently and my

honourable friend sent me some

0:56:460:56:52

Lincolnshire products after the

event. I am not hinting at anything,

0:56:520:56:57

but...

I will come along. Sarah

Jones.

0:56:570:57:08

Jones.

Mr Speaker, this morning,

thousands of us across the country

0:57:080:57:11

heard my friend and former boss,

Baroness Tessa jowl talk for the

0:57:110:57:17

first time since she was diagnosed

with a high-grade brain tumour. It

0:57:170:57:21

was a joy to hear her relentless

positivity and complete commitment

0:57:210:57:26

to changing the world. In a speech

in the other place tomorrow, she

0:57:260:57:32

will call for improved cancer

diagnosis and treatment. Will the

0:57:320:57:37

Prime Minister and the Health

Secretary meet with Tessa, me and

0:57:370:57:40

other health experts to talk about

how we improve outcomes, to meet her

0:57:400:57:45

goal and ultimately save lives?

I

will say to the honourable lady, I

0:57:450:57:52

am sure the whole House was saddened

to hear of the diagnosis of the

0:57:520:58:00

noble Baroness, the noble lady

baroness Abbott encouraged by the

0:58:000:58:04

approach he is taking. I told the

Home Secretary, and her speech this

0:58:040:58:09

morning was very moving in this. I

am sure everybody across this House

0:58:090:58:14

of Sand heard the very best wishes

at this time. We do want to make

0:58:140:58:19

sure cancer treatment is a priority

and we want to make sure the best

0:58:190:58:22

treatments are being provided. We

will consider investing in anything

0:58:220:58:28

that improves that and we have

accepted 96 recommendations in the

0:58:280:58:33

NHS Cancer strategy. We constantly

need to look at this. My right

0:58:330:58:38

honourable friend the Health

Secretary will be happy to meet with

0:58:380:58:41

the honourable lady and Tessa

Jowell.

Tessa Jowell has been an

0:58:410:58:49

outstanding public servant. In my 20

years of this place I have never met

0:58:490:58:52

a more courteous or gracious member

of Parliament.

0:58:520:59:02

The Prime Minister will no of the

0:59:080:59:16

devastation caused by fixed odds

betting terminals. Far cry from the

0:59:160:59:20

bingo Hall, the pools coupon. Given

there is a review, will she meet me

0:59:200:59:30

and others to discuss how the

maximum bet on these terminals can

0:59:300:59:33

be reduced. And to plan how a

crackdown on the online gambling

0:59:330:59:41

sites which target young children.

Mr Speaker, the stakes are too high

0:59:410:59:47

to gamble with our children's

futures.

We are clear the fixed odds

0:59:470:59:54

betting terminals stakes will be cut

to make sure we have a safe and

0:59:540:59:59

sustainable industry were vulnerable

people and children are protected.

0:59:591:00:03

As I suspect, he knows the

consultation the Department for

1:00:031:00:08

digital culture media and sports has

launched on this and a close

1:00:081:00:10

yesterday so a final decision will

be made in due course. He will know

1:00:101:00:14

with regard to the specific point on

children, there are in place,

1:00:141:00:20

controls to prevent children and

young people from accessing online

1:00:201:00:23

gambling and the gambling commission

has asked the gambling strategy

1:00:231:00:28

board to examine the wide

relationship between children and

1:00:281:00:30

gambling. It is important we

recognise the potential threats and

1:00:301:00:35

dangers but ensure we have the best

information possible to be able to

1:00:351:00:38

act.

1:00:381:00:44

My 25-year-old constituent lost her

battle with cervical cancer and died

1:00:441:00:51

in January last year. She went to

her GP around 30 times with symptoms

1:00:511:00:57

and repeatedly asked for a smear

test and was refused. She only got

1:00:571:01:01

the test when she paid to have it

done privately. Sadly the cancer had

1:01:011:01:07

spread by that point. We'll be Prime

Minister support of the family in

1:01:071:01:13

their campaign to introduce Amber's

law which would change the

1:01:131:01:15

regulations so that women under 25

can access a smear test on the

1:01:151:01:21

National Health Service when they

are symptomatic?

I send my

1:01:211:01:27

condolences and I am sure the whole

house does to Amber's family for

1:01:271:01:32

this terrible thing which has

happened. The smear test is hugely

1:01:321:01:36

important. Sadly what we see even

for those who qualify today to have

1:01:361:01:42

the test is that too many women do

not take it up. I know it's not a

1:01:421:01:49

comfortable thing to do. Because I

have it as other stew. But it's so

1:01:491:01:55

important for women's health. I

first of all want to encourage women

1:01:551:01:58

to actually take the smear test.

Secondly she has raised an issue

1:01:581:02:03

about the availability of that test

and I will ask my right honourable

1:02:031:02:08

friend the Secretary of State for

Health to look at this issue. It has

1:02:081:02:12

been raised before for those under

the age of 25. Action has been taken

1:02:121:02:16

in terms of the vaccine which has

been introduced for teenagers. There

1:02:161:02:23

have been questions about that, I

have had people in my constituency

1:02:231:02:27

raising questions about that. We

need to address this issue in every

1:02:271:02:31

way possible so we will look at the

question of age qualification and my

1:02:311:02:36

overall message is, please, those

called for a smear test, go and have

1:02:361:02:40

it.

1:02:401:02:46

it.

Would my right honourable friend

join me in congratulating Bexley

1:02:461:02:51

rugby club on its 60th anniversary

and agree with me that the pursuit

1:02:511:02:54

of sport is good for health and

well-being.

I can see to my right

1:02:541:03:02

honourable friend that I am very

happy to endorse what he has said

1:03:021:03:05

about sport and indeed to enjoy him

in congratulating the rugby club on

1:03:051:03:10

a significant anniversary. I am sure

over all of those years it has given

1:03:101:03:14

many young people and others an

introduction to the joy of sport and

1:03:141:03:18

the way sport can be good for the

community and society and also the

1:03:181:03:23

individual. I am happy to endorse

that.

This week I have been

1:03:231:03:29

approached by a constituent who is a

single mother and up until December

1:03:291:03:34

was a teacher. She has been told she

will have to wait over six weeks for

1:03:341:03:39

Universal Credit payment and been

denied hardship loans. This means

1:03:391:03:43

that she is living on £20 per week

child benefit and the charity of

1:03:431:03:48

food banks. Can the Prime Minister

tell us that is how Universal Credit

1:03:481:03:53

is supposed to work? And does she

regret that my constituent's son now

1:03:531:03:59

joins the nearly 9000 children

living in

1:03:591:04:06

living in poverty and Batley and

Spen?

We made changes to the

1:04:061:04:13

Universal Credit which were

announced in the budget including

1:04:131:04:15

changes which mean the availability

of advanced payments has increased.

1:04:151:04:20

The size of those advanced payments

has increased but if she would like

1:04:201:04:23

to send the details, write in with

the particular details we can look

1:04:231:04:27

at it and make sure it is properly

considered.

The latest figures from

1:04:271:04:35

the Office of National Statistics

show the government is making

1:04:351:04:38

further progress in reducing the

deficit. Would my right honourable

1:04:381:04:42

friend agree it would be reckless to

change course now in terms of a

1:04:421:04:47

policy of Reena as localisation --

of renationalisation?

My honourable

1:04:471:04:57

friend raises an important point, it

has not been easy to the dues the

1:04:571:05:01

deficit in the way that we have. We

had to deal with the biggest deficit

1:05:011:05:06

in our peacetime history left to us

by the Labour Party, decisions from

1:05:061:05:10

the government... Yes. Yes.

Order!

Labour might not like hearing it but

1:05:101:05:18

it is what happened. It is by the

hard work of the British people and

1:05:181:05:24

by decisions the government has

taken we have been able to produce

1:05:241:05:28

that deficit. But £170 billion extra

in order to meet the ideological

1:05:281:05:34

desires of the Leader of the

Opposition would saddle people up

1:05:341:05:38

and down this country with higher

debt and ordinary people would pay

1:05:381:05:41

the price.

Will she instruct the DWP

to release the details of benefits

1:05:411:05:49

claimants with disabilities who have

taken their own lives after the

1:05:491:05:52

claims were turned down, stop

without notice or significantly

1:05:521:05:56

reduced?

The DWP does not give

details of individuals with whom it

1:05:561:06:07

deals. That is absolutely right.

Absolutely right. What it does do is

1:06:071:06:12

ensure we have a welfare system

which provides support to those who

1:06:121:06:16

need it and welfare system that

increasingly encourages those who

1:06:161:06:21

can to get into the workplace

because we continue to believe work

1:06:211:06:24

is the best route out of other day.

In her December press release the

1:06:241:06:32

Bank of England described the UK

financial system as both a national

1:06:321:06:35

asset and a global public good. Does

my right honourable friend think it

1:06:351:06:41

is reasonable that the UK financial

services sector which pays billions

1:06:411:06:44

of pounds in taxes wants to hear the

government ambitions to ensure the

1:06:441:06:50

City of London remains a global

pre-eminent financial settlement in

1:06:501:06:52

the same way it set out ambitions

for other sectors in the summer?

I

1:06:521:06:59

have said in this chamber we retain

that ambition for the City of London

1:06:591:07:04

to remain a global financial centre,

I have said it outside this chamber,

1:07:041:07:08

it is indeed what we are working on.

I was pleased to welcome a number of

1:07:081:07:14

senior representatives from the

financial services sector to number

1:07:141:07:17

ten Downing St only a matter of

weeks ago. To sit down and talk to

1:07:171:07:21

them about how we can ensure that we

do exactly that. London's place as

1:07:211:07:26

the financial sector for the world

is not just to benefit the United

1:07:261:07:30

Kingdom, it's a benefit to the

global financial system and the

1:07:301:07:33

European Union.

It's absolutely

wonderful Mr Speaker that people are

1:07:331:07:43

top thing about building walls but

we in Britain are talking about

1:07:431:07:46

building bridges. But let me

reassure our American friends that

1:07:461:07:52

the Mexicans and the French will be

paying for it because our NHS needs

1:07:521:07:58

to be properly funded first. Can the

Prime Minister confirm that rather

1:07:581:08:03

than building 22 mile long bridges

over the English Channel or a £50

1:08:031:08:08

billion Boris airport in the Thames

estuary, when will be Western rail

1:08:081:08:13

link to Heathrow connect in Wales,

the South and the West directly to

1:08:131:08:20

Heathrow, when more that finally be

built and will we be subjected to

1:08:201:08:25

further studies and consultations?

Can I say to the honourable

1:08:251:08:31

gentleman that I believe there is

very strong cross-party support for

1:08:311:08:34

the Western rail link for Heathrow.

The honourable gentleman has

1:08:341:08:38

expressed his support and my right

honourable friend the member for

1:08:381:08:42

Newbury has been supporting this. It

would reduce journey times for

1:08:421:08:45

passengers in the south-west and

good support the Thames Valley

1:08:451:08:49

economy. It is something I have

looked into as a Thames Valley MP

1:08:491:08:53

previously. Development funding has

been committed for the project and

1:08:531:08:57

the Department for Transport will

write further detail in due course.

1:08:571:09:04

Can I congratulate the Prime

Minister and the parties in Northern

1:09:041:09:07

Ireland for the resumption today of

talks at Stormont. What more can be

1:09:071:09:12

done to ensure the executive is

restored and the nightmare of direct

1:09:121:09:16

rule avoided?

My honourable friend

is absolutely right, the people of

1:09:161:09:23

Northern Ireland need strong

devolved government and political

1:09:231:09:26

leadership and they cannot continue

to have their public services

1:09:261:09:29

suffered by lack of an executive

without ministers making key policy

1:09:291:09:33

and budget decisions. We are

determined to re-establish a fully

1:09:331:09:36

function inclusive devolved

administration which works for

1:09:361:09:41

everyone in Northern Ireland. We

believe that the basis for a deal

1:09:411:09:45

exists and that is why as my

honourable friend has said today,

1:09:451:09:49

the Northern Ireland Secretary

starting a set of political talks to

1:09:491:09:54

restore the executive. I would

encourage, strongly encourage all

1:09:541:09:58

parties to come together and focus

on the job of restoring devolved

1:09:581:10:02

government in Northern Ireland.

Over

Christmas Newcastle United football

1:10:021:10:10

fans raised over £50,000 for the

Western food bank in my constituency

1:10:101:10:16

which you are soon to visit Mr

Speaker, helping to feed people like

1:10:161:10:22

John who despite having COPD,

arthritis, dyspepsia, prose that is,

1:10:221:10:27

type two diabetes and anxiety and

depression was sanctioned for not

1:10:271:10:33

working hard enough to try to find

work. We'll be Prime Minister

1:10:331:10:39

congratulate the people of Newcastle

on their generosity and will she

1:10:391:10:44

explain why it was necessary?

All I

can say to the honourable lady is

1:10:441:10:51

that I applaud all those who give

their time voluntarily, raise money

1:10:511:10:58

across the board in terms of the

activities, she has raised a

1:10:581:11:03

specific example of the work of

people in Newcastle and I commend

1:11:031:11:06

people for when they do raise money

for causes. Can I just say to the

1:11:061:11:15

honourable lady, I cannot discuss an

individual case across this dispatch

1:11:151:11:19

box as she will knows. I think it's

important, it is important that we

1:11:191:11:23

do ensure we have a system which

works, does work properly and fairly

1:11:231:11:28

and I am sure if she wants to raise

the individual case with the

1:11:281:11:33

Secretary of State for Work and

Pensions it will be looked into.

The

1:11:331:11:37

Prime Minister will now be very

welcome and introduction of the

1:11:371:11:40

national minimum wage has created an

as yet unresolved difficulty for the

1:11:401:11:44

care sector. Specifically for 24

hour care for those with significant

1:11:441:11:50

learning difficulties. The issue is

commonly referred to as sleeping

1:11:501:11:56

shifts and owed money to the HMRC.

Will the Prime Minister meet with me

1:11:561:12:01

and a number of concerned colleagues

to discuss the best way forward?

My

1:12:011:12:06

honourable friend raises an

important issue which is of concern

1:12:061:12:09

to a number of organisations and to

others around the house. I am very

1:12:091:12:14

happy to meet her and looked into

this particular question. I would

1:12:141:12:18

say to my honourable friend this is

a matter the Cabinet Office has been

1:12:181:12:22

looking at and working with the

relative Ottoman departments --

1:12:221:12:28

government departments to find a

solution which I know has caused

1:12:281:12:31

concern. That is why there have been

the measures taken to defer the

1:12:311:12:36

abomination of certain aspects of

this but we continue to work on it

1:12:361:12:39

and are happy to look into it.

Nobody has been charged with the

1:12:391:12:46

death of Poppi Worthington despite

the 13 month -year-old having been

1:12:461:12:52

anally penetrated in the hours

before her death at home. She was

1:12:521:12:56

not known to social services despite

a staggeringly troubled family

1:12:561:13:01

history so will she agreed to a

public enquiry so we can learn the

1:13:011:13:07

lessons from this and the children

safer across the country?

I think

1:13:071:13:13

this is a case which has shocked and

appalled everybody around the

1:13:131:13:16

country when they have seen the

horrific abuse which was carried out

1:13:161:13:24

and obviously the tragic

circumstances of the death of Poppi

1:13:241:13:30

and obviously the tragic

circumstances of the death of Poppi.

1:13:301:13:31

I'm sure everyone will join me in

offering my condolences. As I

1:13:311:13:35

understand that the Crown

Prosecution Service has announced it

1:13:351:13:38

is considering the coroner 's

decision in the lesion with Cumbria

1:13:381:13:41

Constabulary and I think is right we

allow that process to continue to

1:13:411:13:46

take place and await the outcome of

it before considering any further

1:13:461:13:51

action being needed. I can assert

the honourable gentleman that I

1:13:511:13:55

think everyone across this house is

well appraised of the significance

1:13:551:13:59

of this issue and how appalling this

tragedy was and the need for us to

1:13:591:14:05

ensure there was indeed Justice but

also lessons are learned.

Order.

1:14:051:14:09

ANDREW: PMQs ending on a sombre

note. As expected, Jeremy Corbyn

1:14:191:14:25

went on the NHS. The extra money the

government was putting in wasn't

1:14:251:14:29

enough. And he quoted A&E doctors

and who should we trust, them or the

1:14:291:14:38

experts. The Prime Minister quoted

statistics, showing various areas

1:14:381:14:44

how she thought the NHS was doing

well. Inevitably, we may want to

1:14:441:14:49

start betting on this.

1:14:491:14:54

start betting on this. Jeremy Corbyn

use some detail, he said 100,000

1:14:581:15:02

patients had to wait more than 30

minutes in an ambulance. He talked

1:15:021:15:05

about the numbers waiting for how

the A&E figures, a weight of no more

1:15:051:15:11

than four hours have been regularly

breached. He said 80 patients had

1:15:111:15:19

been harmed or died over three weeks

while waiting in the ambulances.

1:15:191:15:24

That was the exchange. Whether we

got anywhere is another matter but

1:15:241:15:28

the NHS is always a powerful issue.

Labour think it is its issue and

1:15:281:15:34

that is why Jeremy Corbyn regularly

goes with it. And in the winter

1:15:341:15:38

there is plenty of material he has

to put to the government.

1:15:381:15:42

Let's discuss all this with Brexit

minister Robin Walker and Shadow

1:15:421:15:45

Treasury Minister Anneliese Dodds.

1:15:451:15:46

Laura Kuenssberg is here too.

1:15:461:15:52

Before I interrupted you, Laura.

You

did, well, John Bercow bid, by

1:15:521:15:58

starting on time.

I am happy to be

corrected. And finished early as

1:15:581:16:05

well. We talked about the NHS in the

first part of the programme and

1:16:051:16:10

spoke to the Minister about them. Mr

David Davis, the Brexit minister was

1:16:101:16:15

in front of a select committee and

was being asked questions, maybe it

1:16:151:16:21

was Jacob Rees Mogg that responded,

but he seemed to tell us that in

1:16:211:16:28

this transition period of two years

after we leave, the European Court

1:16:281:16:33

of Justice will still rule and have

jurisdiction in this land.

Explain?

1:16:331:16:38

And in her Florence speech, the

Prime Minister said the transition

1:16:381:16:42

period will be the status quo and

the rules and regulations will stay

1:16:421:16:47

broadly the same and that will mean

the oversight of the European Court

1:16:471:16:53

of Justice. The context is, the

government is expected to set and

1:16:531:16:57

much more detail about the two years

up Brexit day by the end of this

1:16:571:17:04

week. So ears are wagging around

Westminster for any clues. The

1:17:041:17:11

second thing is, for the Tory party,

this debate around what the

1:17:111:17:15

transition period looks like is one

of the central issues of dispute

1:17:151:17:23

between the Brexiteer tendency, of

course from top to bottom in the

1:17:231:17:26

party and those who were advocates

for Remain. And David Davis, who was

1:17:261:17:34

a Brexiteer but now had to make the

thing work. We were saying before

1:17:341:17:39

PMQs, there is even a row before you

get to the actual thing, there is a

1:17:391:17:44

row over what to call it. Is it a

transition period or in

1:17:441:17:49

implementation phase, which is what

the Prime Minister said last day.

1:17:491:17:52

That matters because implementation

is basically meant to be both sides

1:17:521:17:56

getting used to the new arrangements

and transition is things preserved

1:17:561:18:02

in aspect. In your view, what is it,

implementation or transition? This

1:18:021:18:09

matters to a lot of people.

If you

look at the joint report, it is

1:18:091:18:16

both, it refers to both terms. But I

think it is important to reflect the

1:18:161:18:20

fact that this is not a question of,

do we stay in the EU. It is, we are

1:18:201:18:27

leaving the EU but we are taking

time to do it in an orderly way.

1:18:271:18:32

There is a period, if you have two

years, were both sides of the EU and

1:18:321:18:37

the UK get used to set of new

arrangements...

Which would be

1:18:371:18:39

agreed.

Which would be agreed. Or

you have a two-year period which

1:18:391:18:46

would be the status quo and the UK

would be expected to abide by any

1:18:461:18:52

new rules. It will be interesting to

hear from the minister, people want

1:18:521:18:56

to know if the UK can set its own

rules during the two-year period?

As

1:18:561:19:03

you said, the Secretary of State

will be setting out in more detail,

1:19:031:19:07

the way it will work later in the

week. But what I want to point out,

1:19:071:19:13

the UK will be able to start to go

out and prepare a new policy,

1:19:131:19:17

prepare new ground for how things

will be different in the future. The

1:19:171:19:20

Prime Minister said in her speech,

both in her Lancaster House and

1:19:201:19:26

Florence beaches, we need continuity

during the process.

Will anything be

1:19:261:19:32

different in the transition period?

We will no longer be a member of the

1:19:321:19:37

European Union. Anything other than

that? That is a significant point.

1:19:371:19:45

How we prepare for trade policy, go

out and talk to countries. At the

1:19:451:19:50

moment, we can't.

That is not

implementation, it is a preparation

1:19:501:19:54

period.

It is both.

You couldn't

implement, under what is being

1:19:541:20:02

proposed, you could not implement or

sign in new free trade deal with a

1:20:021:20:06

third party?

I think that is

something obviously we are entering

1:20:061:20:12

negotiations on this implementation

period, but we want to be going out

1:20:121:20:15

and talking to the parties during

these arrangements and putting those

1:20:151:20:20

arrangements into place, so they are

ready for the point at which really.

1:20:201:20:24

There is agreement from both parties

about the benefits of having time to

1:20:241:20:29

prepare. Not just from a business

perspective, which we have heard

1:20:291:20:32

loud and clear from businesses in

all sectors, but also in respect of

1:20:321:20:36

the government being able to prepare

for new arrangements that might be

1:20:361:20:40

in place between us in the future.

There is a lot of anxiety about what

1:20:401:20:45

the actual answers to these

questions are on Tory backbenchers,

1:20:451:20:49

which was demonstrated by Mr Rhys

Marg, because he is the head of the

1:20:491:21:00

reform group, the research group,

sorry. They are a powerful grip on

1:21:001:21:05

the Tory backbenches.

Quite well

informed, they

1:21:051:21:11

informed, they do their research.

Will we be able to set out our own

1:21:121:21:18

rules and regulations during the

implementation, transition period

1:21:181:21:22

and I think there may be some

rumblings on the Tory benches that

1:21:221:21:27

may become more public.

You didn't

get an answer, and I didn't get an

1:21:271:21:33

answer and that would have been bad.

If the transition period goes up to

1:21:331:21:39

December 2020 or even into March of

2021, assuming this parliament runs

1:21:391:21:47

its life, that is quite a big

assumption, but assuming it does,

1:21:471:21:51

there is only a year until the next

election as well. There isn't a

1:21:511:21:56

period on which to fight an election

where people have any sense of being

1:21:561:22:01

able to say, well I am glad we did

this, or, it is turning into a

1:22:011:22:07

disaster, because there isn't enough

time?

I think a lot of viewers will

1:22:071:22:13

be thinking, why are we talking

about the interests of a small

1:22:131:22:18

number of Conservative backbenchers

and why aren't we talking about the

1:22:181:22:21

interests of this country? The

message that has come across to me

1:22:211:22:24

from business, we had it again with

the custom-built committee, they

1:22:241:22:29

need to know they will be sticking

with existing rules and all of this

1:22:291:22:33

talk about whether we have got a

transition period, implementation

1:22:331:22:36

period, half in, half out, whatever

it is, it's not helping. We have

1:22:361:22:46

some evidence it is costing jobs. It

is holding up investment decisions.

1:22:461:22:49

Not showing up in this morning's

unemployment figures, is it?

You are

1:22:491:22:55

right, but look at different

sectors. Not staying part of the

1:22:551:22:59

EU's trade remedies regime or not

having rules are strict is that

1:22:591:23:06

regime, we could be flooded with

Chinese imports, potentially.

You

1:23:061:23:11

mean unlike now?

To be fair we have

a number of trade remedies. If we

1:23:111:23:17

didn't have those and if the

government is threatening to take

1:23:171:23:22

those away, we need to have that

security. Being held to ransom by

1:23:221:23:30

somebody like Jacob Rees Mogg, I

have nothing against him personally,

1:23:301:23:35

they are not representing this

country and the government should

1:23:351:23:38

not be driven by this.

It sounds

like the government is closer to you

1:23:381:23:43

on this than it does to Jacob Rees

Mogg.

The government has finally

1:23:431:23:48

come up with what Lega has argued

for, for a long time, we have got to

1:23:481:23:53

accept the reality...

What came from

Labour was absurd. It was in the

1:23:531:24:01

Florence speech, the Lancaster House

speech, we have been clear there

1:24:011:24:04

would need to be a period for the

implementation and move to a new

1:24:041:24:08

agreement. That is the policy we are

seeing through.

You wouldn't accept

1:24:081:24:16

initially there would be any

involvement of the ECJ when it was

1:24:161:24:19

obvious it would have to happen.

The

Prime Minister set that out in her

1:24:191:24:26

Florence speech, it would be under

the same rules.

She didn't, there

1:24:261:24:31

would be instability and concerned

before the government accepted what

1:24:311:24:35

Labour said the whole way.

It is

true a lot of Eurosceptics had

1:24:351:24:41

argued when we leave, the moment the

technically leave, that is when the

1:24:411:24:46

ECJ should no longer... There was a

residual thing in Phase one, they

1:24:461:24:50

would have a residual locus on EU

citizens.

But that was meant to be

1:24:501:24:58

it. It is indeed the case the

Eurosceptics in the Tory party has

1:24:581:25:04

moved a bit about what they were

willing to accept. There is no

1:25:041:25:08

question about that and some

ministers did start off thinking

1:25:081:25:11

there didn't have to be a transition

and then they accepted that, as you

1:25:111:25:16

have been suggesting. The broader

point, the Tory party is not all

1:25:161:25:20

peace and harmony about the

transition period, which is the next

1:25:201:25:24

phase of the huge Brexit challenge

we are about to enter into

1:25:241:25:27

negotiations on.

So watch this

space. We shall watch this space

1:25:271:25:32

indeed. Let me bring you back,

Anneliese Dodds, to a more domestic

1:25:321:25:38

issue. Labour's executive committee

comic called on Labour councillors

1:25:381:25:45

in Haringey to stop a controversial

housing partnership to redevelop a

1:25:451:25:52

large council housing estate. The

NEC said they should stop doing

1:25:521:25:55

this. Is it a proper role for the

NEC?

I believe what they said this

1:25:551:26:01

to have a review after some members

referred it to them. It is a

1:26:011:26:05

difficult issue.

There is a

mediation process and they are

1:26:051:26:10

asking the council to halt it.

But

it seemed clear, the NEC is against

1:26:101:26:17

it?

I am not sitting on the NEC, I

don't know what individuals on the

1:26:171:26:25

NEC is.

This is a local councillor,

he thinks the NEC that Matt Prior

1:26:251:26:30

serve the people of my borough

first, not my party. Regardless of

1:26:301:26:35

what the Politburo say.

Well, it is

funny, I know Joe Goldberg from a

1:26:351:26:45

long time ago. The context for this

is a situation where it is very

1:26:451:26:53

difficult for councils to do

regeneration because of a lot of the

1:26:531:26:56

rules around viability. There is a

discussion about whether this big

1:26:561:27:01

project, whether it is the right way

to go...

But the elected Labour

1:27:011:27:07

councillors of Haringey, most of

them wanted to proceed. Some I read

1:27:071:27:13

in the papers, were quite excited

about what this would do for this

1:27:131:27:17

large council estate in terms of

regeneration?

Do regeneration is

1:27:171:27:22

certainly needed, the question is

whether this is the right way to

1:27:221:27:25

achieve it. That is why we will have

this review. It is important we have

1:27:251:27:30

it. I hope this will raise more

generally, some of the problems we

1:27:301:27:36

have around regeneration. We are in

a difficult situation, where

1:27:361:27:40

developers hold the cards and the

government has done nothing to

1:27:401:27:43

improve that situation, in fact has

done more to make it worse.

Who do

1:27:431:27:48

you side with, the Haringey

councillors or the NEC?

I don't know

1:27:481:27:53

what the opinions of the individual

NEC members are. They are holding

1:27:531:27:57

the review, which is a good idea.

Do

you think the NEC should turn its

1:27:571:28:05

attention to cuts in the council?

Nervous laughter.

I was laughing

1:28:051:28:12

with you.

There is a lot to be seen

in Oxford, let me tell you.

There is

1:28:121:28:21

the issue of regeneration.

Anyway, I

need to put our viewers out of their

1:28:211:28:29

misery and give them the answer to

Guess the Year.

1:28:291:28:38

Guess the Year. It was 2016, not

that long ago. Can you press the

1:28:381:28:42

buzzer. The NEC approved when it

is...

1:28:421:28:45

That's all for today.

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The One o'clock News is starting

over on BBC One now.

1:28:501:28:55

Sarah Smith at noon tomorrow with

another Daily Politics. I hope you

1:28:551:28:59

can join her, goodbye.

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