24/01/2018 Daily Politics


24/01/2018

Andrew Neil is joined by Robin Walker and Anneliese Dodds, with live coverage of Prime Minister's Questions. Plus discussion on Brexit, the economy and the future of PFI deals.


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Morning folks - welcome

to the Daily Politics.

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Unemployment in the UK has

fallen again this morning,

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it's good news for Theresa May -

and she probably needs it

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after a bout of cabinet infighting

over whether to spend more public

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money on the NHS.

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Brexit secretary David Davis has

been talking to MPs this morning,

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where it's been claimed the UK

will remain a 'vassal state'

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of the EU for a further

two years, or longer.

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The use of public funds to pay

private sector companies

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like Carillion is still exercising

Labour, it says the party

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is over for outsourcing -

we'll look at what that really

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means.

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All of which and more could come up

when the two party leaders face off

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at Prime Minister's Questions,

we'll bring you all

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the action live from noon.

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All that still to come in the next

90 minutes of public sector

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broadcasting that is so important

to the proper functioning

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of the nation that we expect

all of our viewers to observe

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the strictest cabinet

confidentiality.

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By which of course I mean you should

tell everyone about it

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at every opportunity.

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And joining me for all of it,

two MPs who haven't

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yet made the cabinet -

and so should feel free to keep

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absolutely nothing secret.

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It's the Brexit minister

Robin Walker and the shadow Treasury

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minister Anneliese Dodds.

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Welcome.

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Theresa May is preparing

for Prime Minister's Questions

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in about half-an-hour's time,

and after that she'll fly

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to the Swiss resort of Davos

for the annual gathering

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of the global business

and political elite -

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including this year well-known

establishment types

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like Donald Trump and shadow

chancellor John McDonnell.

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The theme is finding a 'shared

future in a fractured world',

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I have no idea what that means

either.

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So perhaps she's hoping for tips

on dealing with her cabinet,

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which yesterday became the latest

example of a challenge

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to her authority thanks to her

foreign secretary Boris Johnson.

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Lizzie is here to tell us

about the obstacles facing the PM.

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Thanks Andrew and who knows,

Theresa May might even get a little

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'down time' to have some fun

on the slopes.

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After all she does

have some good news,

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figures out this morning show

a fall in unemployment.

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However, there are quite a few

tricky issues that the PM needs

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to navigate if she's to avoid

a 'wipe out'.

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We're now into the second phase

of the Brexit negotiations

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and Mrs May will soon have

to show her hand and outline her

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vision of the transition,

before we finally leave the EU.

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Then of course there's the final

deal, will we mirror the EU's rules

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and regulations to get full access

to their single market?

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Or break away so we can

negotiate our own trade deals?

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The Prime Minister has

a tough course to navigate.

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Away from Brexit, Mrs May is also

facing criticism from

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a number of senior back benchers

with the likes of Nick Boles,

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Grant Shapps and Nicholas Soames

all publicly bemoaning

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what they see as a

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lack of ideas and direction

emanating from the government.

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Then there's the

financial pressures on

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the NHS with a constant stream

of reports of hospitals struggling

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to cope over the winter period.

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One man who claims

to have an answer is

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Boris Johnson, who was planning

to demand spending an extra

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£100 million a week on health

after we leave the EU.

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The Foreign Secretary was slapped

down for going 'off piste'

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in yesterday's cabinet meeting,

but there are rumours that

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Mr Johnson may be on manoeuvres.

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We're not sure whether

that's down hill or not.

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Thank you for that. Let's now have a

look, before we go through some of

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these things, at what the Brexit

secretary David Davis, he is Robin

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Walker's boss, had to say in an

exchange with Jacob Reese-Mogg at

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the Brexit select committee hearing

a little earlier.

Transition is

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different because transition means

we are de facto inside the European

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Union for that period. We are only

out at the end of the transition.

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That's a big shift in government

policy and a big move away from the

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vote in June.

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vote in June.

We don't have

representation on the council and

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the court and so on, we will debate

how we manage that. But I do not

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accept your description.

Will we

accept EU rules?

That is an area of

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some interest. The time it takes to

put a rule into effect, regulation

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into effect in the European Union,

the average is 22 months. The

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proposal we are having is we leave

in 21 months.

Lets start on Europe

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Robin Walker, it is your department,

before we come onto some of the

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other matters raised. If we leave in

March 2019 there is going to be a

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transition period of perhaps up to

two years. Throughout that two years

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we will remain subject to the

rulings of the European Court of

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Justice?

What we said clearly is we

want to have access to the European

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market on the same terms which we

think is in the mutual interest...

I

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will come onto the single market, I

am asking about the European Court

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of Justice.

It will remain the

Supreme Court over that and where it

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rules on the rules of that market we

will have to take account of that.

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We take account of the rulings of

the Supreme Court in the United

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States but we do not follow them

unless we want to. So let me

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clarify, we will remain subject to

the jurisdiction of the European

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Court until 2021?

The implementation

period we would seek to agree would

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say and the same rules, under the

same basis as our current membership

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so yes. But we would be out of our

membership of the European Union, we

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would be doing that for an agreed

time on it.

You say we would be out

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of it but for most people it would

still feel like in. We would still

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remain a member of the customs

union.

We would continue to access

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the customs union on the same basis,

you have to be careful with your

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definitions. If you talk to the EU

we have left...

We would still be

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subject to the external tariffs of

the customs union for two years.

The

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Prime Minister has been clear that's

the case.

And we would remain a

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member of the single market for

another two years?

We would maintain

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our access under the same rules and

regulations.

So we would have all

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the obligations of being in the

single market, the customs union,

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and the ECJ for another two years

without any representation on the

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bodies which run these institutions?

We want to make sure we exit with

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certainty and stability of how

things stand, that businesses and

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government have time to prepare.

That is what the Prime Minister sent

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out to achieve.

Its continuity,

nothing really changes. You're in

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the single market, customs union, do

we continue with the free movement

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of people?

People will be able to

come here to live and work and

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contribute.

Robber still be free

movement?

We will want to introduce

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a registration process...

Wilber

still be free movement?

People will

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be able to come here but they will

need to register to prepare for our

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new immigration system.

If Angela

Merkel and Emmanuel Macron

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get-together and introduce a

transactions tax on financial

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dealings, something Emanuel Macron

is very keen on, say that is

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introduced in the summer of 2019, do

we have to introduce it?

I don't

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think it's possible to get something

that significant through the

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European system, I don't think

realistically...

If they could would

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we have to implement it?

We have to

be clear that the UK has played a

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role and will continue to play a

role in making these decisions right

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up until our exit.

If they introduce

something like a transactions tax

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during the transition period do we

have to implement it?

I don't

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believe that is likely to be the

case, it's a theoretical.

Two years

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is a long while, they could do lots

of things. Labour agrees, want to

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stay in the customs union and single

market and you like the ECJ.

What we

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find frustrating is that Labour has

been saying for a long time that

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until the government gets its act

together we would have two as a

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country accept the reality of

needing a transition period because

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we're not going to be ready. Finally

the government has caught up with it

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but we still have all this

conclusion.

The government is now

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doing what you wanted to do.

Yes but

it is still confused.

We are all

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confused! Do you want to stay in the

customs union after the transition?

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We don't want the government to rule

out options like staying in...

Do

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you think we should stay?

We want

the benefits we currently have

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because we recognise if we were in

the driving seat for negotiations we

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would have to be talking to the

other 27 countries. There are a lot

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of benefits of that union. Relating

to the comment about how the

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government is trying to keep things

on an even keel during this process,

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I have been in the customs bill

committee hearing from businesses

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about how the government is not

taking on the union customs code

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which is not something people

mentioned to me when I was

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campaigning in the referendum. It is

adopting a different process making

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huge disruption for business when it

should have said we will continue

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with the current system.

We have

just passed EU withdrawal bill to

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provide continuity which Labour

proposed.

Because of the power grab.

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Let's come onto the issue which

dominated Cabinet yesterday. We were

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promised by the Leave side there

would be more money for the NHS

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after breakfast, Brexit! After

breakfast as well! We know the NHS

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is currently under severe financial

pressure, so why not make it down

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payment? Why not put more money into

the NHS now?

I fully support

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increasing funding and the NHS and

we are delivering on that. What we

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have seen in 2010 is an increase of

about 12 and a half billion. We saw

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extra money for winter pressures

last year which was vital. I have

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seen the biggest investment in my

hospital since it was built in the

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90s. I think we need to keep up with

investment.

If you are keen on

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investment the last Labour

government run 1987-2010 on average

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in real terms increased NHS spending

by £5 billion a year over that

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period. On average how much have you

increased NHS spending?

We have

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increased it every year.

By how

much?

Billions more going on. About

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2 billion per year.

So you put into

billion per year since 2010 the last

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Labour government put in 5 billion a

year.

That was in the context of the

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government losing control of the

country's debts and running a huge

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deficit...

We had a financial crisis

and you took support of the measures

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we took.

Do you not see the hard of

a problem that under the last Labour

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government spending rose by 5

billion per year on average. Under

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you, just under 2 billion per year

which is the problem because the

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demands on the NHS are ever rising

but the rises in cash you are giving

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it are falling.

I think it's also

about how we invest the money and

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make sure it makes the most

difference, increasing spending on

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mental health which is at the

highest it has ever been can save

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money elsewhere in the system.

It is

clear your 2 billion per year is not

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enough, just look at the NHS, there

might be other things you have to

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do, I'm not saying it's on money,

but it's clear your 2 billion per

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year which is only 40% of what

Labour was putting in terms of the

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increase not enough.

I stood on a

manifesto last election offering a

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more substantial increase to the

NHS, meeting the terms the NHS had

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asked for.

You have not matched the

Labour Party's record. We are in a

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different context.

We had to pick up

the pieces after the financial

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price. We have made the NHS a top

priority.

Except you are still going

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to increase its only by about 2

billion per year.

I do not recognise

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that. What we are seeing will take

us up to about 16 billion...

Let's

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go to 2018-19, on real terms you

will be 126 billion which is 14

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billion more than 2010-11 when he

came to power, that, divided by six

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is less than 2 billion per year. So

you're not increasing it in real

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terms by much at all.

We are every

year and we are taking steps to

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increase the number of front line

staff in the NHS, to make sure we

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have less dependence on the very

expensive agency workers.

10% of

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nursing posts are unfilled. Nurses

are leaving the NHS at a higher rate

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than ever.

We had the biggest

increase in medical training going

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on...

Even in young nurses are

leaving.

I'm sorry, in my local

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trust the number of vacancies is

declining.

That is very unusual.

I

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am sure it is Shangri-La at your

local trust but across the country,

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is this what Nick Boles meant about

your inability to rise to the

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challenge when he called the

government tenet and lacking in

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ambition and what Nicholas Soames

called dull, dull, dull, one Cabinet

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minister said we are governed by

visionless mediocrity that is what

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your government has come to.

Visionless mediocrity.

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I don't think there is anything

visionless. Meeting the demands of

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the NHS, 10 billion more funding in

this government, raising the

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priority on mental health.

Why are

you timid and lacking ambition,

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dull, dull, dull and visionless.

We

had to make sure people see an

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increase in their wages through a

significant increase in the national

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living wage, which we will see this

April.

This is not meeting its,

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these are Conservatives saying it.

It is always good for the

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backbenchers to challenge the

government to do more. We are seeing

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fairer funding for our schools.

What

have you done for the just about

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managing?

We have increased the

national living wage.

That was done

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by George Osborne, what has Theresa

May done?

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May done?

Continuing to drive this,

focusing on productivity, which

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Labour said for many years we

couldn't turn around...

That is one

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quarter's figures.

It is beginning

to show real improvement and that

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means higher wages. We want to

combine that with the lowest paid

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paying less tax.

The figures this

morning show wages are lacking

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behind prices and in real terms,

wages are still falling.

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Productivity is the key...

You said

wages were rising.

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wages were rising. Would Labour

increase NHS spending by £5 billion

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a year?

Yes we would and we set out

how we would do it at the general

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election. We would also

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election. We would also lift the PEI

cap, which is having an impact on

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recruitment.

What was the main

source of the 5 billion a year?

It

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is all set out, for example,

reversing some of the changes to the

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top rate of tax the government said

it wanted to prioritise.

It could

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cost you money?

It could, but we had

many different funding sources. My

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trust is struggling because we

cannot get enough people in and the

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number one reason they cannot work

in my city is because the wages

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cannot keep track of costs.

Let's

move on.

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This time last week we were talking

about the impact of the collapse

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of the construction firm Carillion

and today Labour is trying to force

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a binding vote in the Commons

which would make ministers hand

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over their risk assessments

for the company before it went bust,

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hoping to prove they knew

it was in trouble before

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handing over big contracts.

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Well we know Labour believes this

is a watershed moment in the way

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the public views the use of private

companies to provide public

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services, and this week they set out

more of their thinking.

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Shadow cabinet minister Jon Trickett

said on Monday Labour would change

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the way procurement works

"within hours" of taking office.

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He said on Twitter: "Let me be

clear to the outsourcing

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firms: the party is over.

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A Corbyn Government will

reverse the presumption

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in favour of outsourcing."

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Under a Labour government,

firms will only be be able to bid

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for a public contract if it

meets rules including:

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Giving full union recognition

for their workforce and comply

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with collective

bargaining agreements.

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Move towards a pay ratio of 20-1,

meaning the highest paid employee

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could earn no more than

20 times the lowest.

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And firms would have to agree

to maintain high environmental

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standards and adopt best practices

in equal opportunities.

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Let's have a look at this. Can you

name any FTSE company where the boss

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is paid only 20 times the lowest

paid?

I cannot say to you I know

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exactly what the ratio is for every

FTSE company, but I can say it is a

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mainstream opinion. I saw in the

recent submission, that the

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government hasn't fulfilled its

promise...

Let's look at how it

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would work. You wouldn't get a

government contract unless the

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average pay of the boss was no more

than 20-1. Lockheed and British

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Aerospace are building our new

fighters for the aircraft carriers.

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Neither meets the 20-1 criteria, who

would build our fighters?

We think

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this could change behaviour in the

private sector. When you look at

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other countries who have adopted

similar, that is what happened.

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Really? You are telling me the boss

of Lockheed would take a massive pay

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cut in order to continue to supply

30 firefighters?

We don't think

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essentially government should be

paying for these massive pay

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packets.

If the boss of Lockheed and

Bae, it is bigger in America than

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here now, if these two company say

sorry, we're not cutting executive

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pay. It wouldn't just be the boss it

would be all executives, but they

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wouldn't do it, who would supply the

fighters?

We would have to change

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that business behaviour.

If they

don't change, who would supply them.

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Who is going to innovate new F35

fighter which has been 15 years in

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development and still not ready for

our carriers?

We need to look at

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this system from start to end,

because we're not talking about pay

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issues, but also export credit

guarantees...

But Bae, it is the one

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that jumps out. The NHS, it is a

huge success story of this country,

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we have some of the biggest

pharmaceutical companies in the

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world and they supplied drugs to the

NHS. Their executives are paid more

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than 20-1, who would supply our

drugs if they didn't change the PEI

0:22:010:22:06

ratio?

Labour isn't saying we want

every single company in the whole

0:22:060:22:12

country to change.

You have said it

would be a condition of getting a

0:22:120:22:17

public contract that the pay ratio

is 20-1, so who would provide the

0:22:170:22:24

drugs?

You are not outsourcing

services, you are purchasing the

0:22:240:22:30

drugs from them. The NHS has done

that. We're looking at things like

0:22:300:22:34

cleaning and catering.

IT, you

outsource massively. Hewlett

0:22:340:22:41

Packard, IBM and the French company

have been named as part of the top

0:22:410:22:47

20 companies you outsource to.

Hewlett Packard is a massive

0:22:470:22:50

American company. Who do you go to

if they will not cut their American

0:22:500:22:58

executive pay?

We need to look at

how we would do with multinational

0:22:580:23:02

companies like that.

How would you

deal with that?

I accept it is

0:23:020:23:09

something the Labour government

wasn't always perfect act, but we

0:23:090:23:12

have many problems at the moment and

we need more accountability for that

0:23:120:23:17

process. If that means potentially

more firms coming in who don't have

0:23:170:23:21

that...

What British company could

do that Hewlett Packard does for the

0:23:210:23:28

government?

We have these contracts

going to these huge firms that

0:23:280:23:32

haven't delivered. It might mean

smaller portions of these contracts

0:23:320:23:37

going to different firms.

0:23:370:23:43

going to different firms.

The French

company, is massive, what if they

0:23:430:23:48

say we don't want British contracts

any more, where do you go?

At this

0:23:480:23:55

point, I cannot say off the top of

my head, but the public are fed up

0:23:550:24:01

with the system where taxpayers are

supporting very, very high pay

0:24:010:24:05

packets. Through that public purse

and that has got to end. Government

0:24:050:24:11

activity can change these issues.

Theresa May herself for saying she

0:24:110:24:14

was thinking of looking at this

issue of pay ratios, not just for

0:24:140:24:20

outsourcing, but for the whole

economy. She hasn't done that.

It is

0:24:200:24:27

your policy, the Spanish

construction company, key to the

0:24:270:24:31

Crossrail programme going on, could

be key to the new Crossrail going

0:24:310:24:35

from north to south. Its boss is

paid £3.7 million. Unless he cuts

0:24:350:24:43

his pay on your ratio, to around

£400,000, he couldn't bid for these

0:24:430:24:50

contracts?

We believe there should

be a change in that kind of pay

0:24:500:24:53

system and we have been upfront

about that.

No major international

0:24:530:25:00

construction company would not be

able to bid for a contract?

That is

0:25:000:25:05

not the case. We think people would

cut their pay, potentially.

You

0:25:050:25:10

think they would cut their pay to

get a British contract?

When we are

0:25:100:25:17

looking at international firms, we

need to focus on the national

0:25:170:25:21

leadership and management.

So in

international company could get a

0:25:210:25:24

construction contract with the boss

being paid millions, but a British

0:25:240:25:28

company wouldn't get it unless the

boss wasn't paid very much?

That is

0:25:280:25:34

not what I said, I said about the

leadership within the country so we

0:25:340:25:39

would compare like with like.

You

haven't thought this idea through,

0:25:390:25:46

have you?

We have. The government

said itself it would look at these

0:25:460:25:51

pay ratios but it has abandoned

that.

You name one company that

0:25:510:25:59

would fall in with that. It would be

an infrastructure programme that

0:25:590:26:02

would be dead on arrival because

nobody would be around to do it

0:26:020:26:06

because they wouldn't have you

fixing their executive's pay.

Unless

0:26:060:26:12

we grasp this nettle of high pay at

the top end as we have seen falling

0:26:120:26:17

wages at the bottom end, we will

have continued public anger around

0:26:170:26:22

this problem. Labour is trying to do

something about it.

I understand

0:26:220:26:27

that and that is why I am

questioning you. But I think we have

0:26:270:26:30

gone as far as we can today.

0:26:300:26:35

The United States experienced

another government shutdown

0:26:350:26:37

at the weekend, which means many

government agencies stopped working

0:26:370:26:39

and thousands of federal employees

are placed on temporary unpaid leave

0:26:390:26:42

because of a disagreement over

the Budget in Congress.

0:26:420:26:44

The White House released a series

of photographs of president

0:26:440:26:49

Donald Trump to show he at least

was hard at work

0:26:490:26:52

to end the shutdown.

0:26:520:26:54

Here he is in the Oval Office.

0:26:540:26:55

Critics of the president,

of which there are many,

0:26:550:26:57

were quick to claim that it looked

perhaps a teensy bit staged.

0:26:570:27:03

I don't think so, it is always like

that.

0:27:030:27:08

Certainly the desk looks a bit

empty, although he's previously been

0:27:080:27:11

criticised for having a busy desk

so perhaps that just shows

0:27:110:27:14

you can't win them all.

0:27:140:27:15

Sadly the White House didn't relate

who exactly the president

0:27:150:27:17

was calling although we understand

it was a matter of

0:27:170:27:20

national importance.

0:27:200:27:26

PHONE RINGS

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Excuse me.

0:27:270:27:28

Hello?

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Mr President?

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What's that?

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You'd like a Daily Politics mug?

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I'm sorry but you'll just have

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just like everyone else.

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Stop watching Fox and watch the BBC.

Then you might have a chance.

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Remember to wrap up warm at Davos.

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Goodbye. Try not to bother me again.

0:27:500:27:57

I need to have another word

with the BBC switchboard.

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But if you, like the Donald,

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edition Daily Politics mugs,

all you need to do is tell

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every time she moves #.

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CHANTING:

Save our

NHS, save our NHS!

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# I'm only human after all.

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# You're only human after all.

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# Don't put the blame on me.

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# Don't put your blame on me #.

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# So far away, but still so near.

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# The lights come up,

the music dies.

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# But you don't see

me standing here.

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# I just came to say goodbye #.

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# You watch me bleeding

till I can't breathe.

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# Shaking, falling onto my knees#.

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# We've got a whole lot of history.

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# We could be the greatest team

that the world has ever seen.

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# You and me got

a whole lot of history.

0:29:080:29:13

# So don't let it go,

we can make some more.

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# We can live for ever #.

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It is the Elisabeth Tower.

I know

that. It is for our viewers.

Sorry.

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We talked earlier in the programme

about David Davis and the European

0:30:400:30:44

Court of Justice continuing to have

jurisdiction over us through the

0:30:440:30:50

transition period. How has that gone

down?

Use a transition period but

0:30:500:30:58

many Brexiteers would rather see

implementation phase.

The Prime

0:30:580:31:05

Minister has been using that phrase

but we know it is transition.

It's

0:31:050:31:13

absolutely vital that it is an

implementation phase for some loud

0:31:130:31:17

voices on the Tory backbenches. The

viewers want to throw their

0:31:170:31:22

dictionary at the TV, the important

distinction and white Brexiteers are

0:31:220:31:24

worried about people talking about

transition as David Davis did this

0:31:240:31:31

morning is that an implementation

phase as set out by the Prime

0:31:310:31:34

Minister, the whole idea is that

both sides...

I'm going to up to

0:31:340:31:39

stop you, we will come back to this

but for the moment I apologise we go

0:31:390:31:42

straight to the House of Commons.

0:31:420:31:44

This morning I had meetings with

ministerial colleagues and others in

0:31:510:31:55

addition to my duties in this house

I shall have other such meetings

0:31:550:31:58

later today and later I will travel

to Switzerland to attend the World

0:31:580:32:04

Economic Forum and I might even bump

into the Shadow Chancellor why I am

0:32:040:32:07

near!

0:32:070:32:12

As you know, last week was the very

successful launch of the engineering

0:32:130:32:20

campaign aimed at changing the

perception of engineering and

0:32:200:32:23

inspiring the next generation of

engineers, I know the Prime Minister

0:32:230:32:27

is personally committed to this

campaign so can I invite her to join

0:32:270:32:30

me and 80,000 young people at this

year 's Big Bang fair to reinforce

0:32:300:32:35

the message that engineering is a

great career and open to anyone

0:32:350:32:39

regardless of background, ethnicity

and gender.

My honourable friend

0:32:390:32:45

makes an important point, this issue

of engineering particularly for more

0:32:450:32:50

women seeing engineering as a career

is something I have promoted for

0:32:500:32:54

many years now. Engineers are vital

to our economy and that is why we

0:32:540:32:57

want to see everyone and it's not

just about gender, it is background

0:32:570:33:02

and ethnicity, everybody whatever

their background having the chance

0:33:020:33:05

to build a career in engineering and

the year of engineering gives us a

0:33:050:33:09

great opportunity to work with

business to do exactly that. If I

0:33:090:33:14

have the opportunity, if my daddy

allows, I would be happy to attend

0:33:140:33:18

what he refers to. -- if my diary

allies.

I join in the Prime Minister

0:33:180:33:27

in commemorating Holocaust Memorial

Day, many members will attend the

0:33:270:33:31

events tomorrow, we have to teach

all generations that the descent

0:33:310:33:36

into Nazism and the Holocaust must

never, ever be repeated. Anywhere on

0:33:360:33:40

this planet. Does the Mr mac agree

with the Foreign Secretary that the

0:33:400:33:46

National Health Service needs an

extra £5 billion?

0:33:460:33:53

extra £5 billion?

I think the right

honourable gentleman, as I recall

0:33:560:33:59

was here in the chamber for the

autumn budget given by my right

0:33:590:34:04

honourable friend the Chancellor of

the Exchequer where he announced we

0:34:040:34:06

would be putting £6 billion more

into the National Health Service.

0:34:060:34:12

The only problem with that Mr

Speaker is that it was 2.8 billion

0:34:120:34:16

spread like thin gruel over two

years. Two weeks ago the Prime

0:34:160:34:21

Minister told the house and I quote

it is indeed the case that the NHS

0:34:210:34:25

was better prepared this winter than

ever before. 68 senior accident and

0:34:250:34:31

emergency doctors have written to

the Prime Minister about what they

0:34:310:34:35

describe as serious concerns for the

safety of our patients, they say

0:34:350:34:40

patients are being treated in

corridors and they are dying

0:34:400:34:43

prematurely. Who should the public

believe, the Prime Minister or the

0:34:430:34:48

doctors?

It is right that the NHS

was better prepared for this winter

0:34:480:34:55

than it ever has been before. We saw

3000 more beds being brought into

0:34:550:35:02

use over the winter period. We

sought the use of the one-on-one

0:35:020:35:08

call system leading to the

significant reduction in the number

0:35:080:35:14

of call-outs. We have seen changes

made in accident and emergency with

0:35:140:35:19

GP streamlining helping to ensure

that people who do not need to go

0:35:190:35:23

into hospital went into hospital.

Overall, overall we have seen 2.8

0:35:230:35:28

million more people last year

visiting accident and emergency than

0:35:280:35:36

did so in 2010. Our NHS is indeed

providing for patients. There are

0:35:360:35:41

winter pressures, we were prepared

for those winter pressures and we

0:35:410:35:45

will ensure, as we have done every

year under this Conservative

0:35:450:35:50

government that the NHS receives

more funding.

Mr Speaker since 2010

0:35:500:35:58

we have lost 14,000 NHS beds, the

King 's fund, the health foundation

0:35:580:36:02

and Nuffield trust all agreed the

NHS and needs another 4 billion. In

0:36:020:36:08

December, the month just gone, NHS

England recorded its worst ever

0:36:080:36:13

accident and emergency performances

with more patients than ever waiting

0:36:130:36:17

over four hours. Now the UK

Statistics Authority say the numbers

0:36:170:36:21

might be worse because the figures

have been fiddled. Can the Prime

0:36:210:36:26

Minister tell the house when figures

calculated in line with previous

0:36:260:36:29

years will be published?

I have to

say to the right honourable

0:36:290:36:35

gentleman that the NHS is open and

publishing a whole variety of

0:36:350:36:38

figures in relation to the targets

it has. We are putting more money

0:36:380:36:43

into the NHS every year and we are

continuing to do that. If he wants

0:36:430:36:49

to talk about figures and targets

being missed... Yes the latest

0:36:490:36:54

figures show that in England 497

people were waiting more than 12

0:36:540:37:00

hours. But the latest figures also

show that under the label government

0:37:000:37:06

in Wales -- under the Labour

government in Wales 3471 people were

0:37:060:37:11

waiting...

The Prime Minister is

responsible for the underfunding of

0:37:110:37:17

the Welsh government. And despite

that, despite that, the overall

0:37:170:37:26

Welsh Labour health budget has grown

by 5% in 2016-17. It is Labour Wales

0:37:260:37:33

with the problem of underfunding

from a Conservative government based

0:37:330:37:37

on Westminster. So far Mr Speaker

this winter 100,000 patients have

0:37:370:37:44

been forced to wait more than 30

minutes in the back of an ambulance

0:37:440:37:48

in NHS England for which is she is

responsible. Yet still the Prime

0:37:480:37:53

Minister refuses to give the NHS the

money it needs. Can she tell us how

0:37:530:37:59

many more patients will face

life-threatening weights in the back

0:37:590:38:02

of ambulances this winter?

I say to

the right honourable gentleman that

0:38:020:38:08

of course we want to ensure that

people are not waiting in those

0:38:080:38:12

ambulances. But the only answer he

ever comes up with is the question

0:38:120:38:15

of money. No, no, this is... The

question... The question is this,

0:38:150:38:26

the question is this, why are there

are some hospitals where the

0:38:260:38:31

percentage of patients waiting more

than 30 minutes is zero and other

0:38:310:38:36

hospitals where the percentage of

patients waiting more than 30

0:38:360:38:41

minutes is considerably higher? If

he wants to talk about funding

0:38:410:38:44

perhaps we should look at what the

Labour Party promised that the last

0:38:440:38:47

general election last year... It's

all very well shadow ministers

0:38:470:38:51

shouting about the comparison of

money, the point is that at the last

0:38:510:38:58

election the Institute for Fiscal

Studies said this, Labour and the

0:38:580:39:02

Conservatives are pretty much on the

same page. There is not much to

0:39:020:39:06

choose between them in terms of the

money they will put into the NHS.

A

0:39:060:39:12

Labour government would not be

underfunding the NHS, a Labour

0:39:120:39:16

government would not be privatising

the NHS, a Labour government would

0:39:160:39:21

not be underfunding social care, a

Labour government would be committed

0:39:210:39:24

to an NHS free at the point of use

as a human right. Mr Speaker,

0:39:240:39:30

according to the whistle-blower, as

many as... Hang on, hang on,

0:39:300:39:38

according to a whistle-blower, as

many as 80 patients were harmed or

0:39:380:39:42

died following significant ambulance

delays over a three-week period this

0:39:420:39:48

winter. This is a very serious

situation and the Prime Minister

0:39:480:39:52

must be aware of it. What

investigation is the Department of

0:39:520:39:56

Health carrying out into these

deeply alarming reports?

When we

0:39:560:40:02

hear reports of that sort of course

they are very alarming. That is why

0:40:020:40:07

the Department of Health does make

sure that investigations take place.

0:40:070:40:11

That might be undertaken by the

Department of Health or by the

0:40:110:40:15

particular trust involved, the

ambulance trust or the hospital but

0:40:150:40:19

these issues are investigated

because we don't want to see that

0:40:190:40:21

happening. We want to see people

properly cared for and if there were

0:40:210:40:25

lessons to learn to them they will

be learned because we want to do is

0:40:250:40:30

that our support for the NHS is

about providing it with the funding,

0:40:300:40:35

doctors and nurses, treatment and

capabilities that it needs in order

0:40:350:40:39

to deliver for patients. That is why

we are backing the NHS with more

0:40:390:40:43

funding, that is why we ensure they

get the best treatments and survival

0:40:430:40:47

rates for cancer are higher than

they have ever been before. It is

0:40:470:40:50

why we are ensuring better joined up

services across the NHS and social

0:40:500:40:55

care so those people who do not need

to go into hospital are able to be

0:40:550:41:03

cared for at home and it is why we

are ensuring we are reducing waste

0:41:030:41:06

in the NHS so taxpayers money is

spent as effectively as may be on

0:41:060:41:08

patient care. That is a plan for the

NHS but it is a plan which put

0:41:080:41:13

patients first.

Mr Speaker, the

Prime Minister must be aware of

0:41:130:41:19

ambulances backed up in hospital car

parks with nurses treating patients

0:41:190:41:23

in the back of ambulances, ambulance

drivers and paramedics desperate to

0:41:230:41:27

get on to deal with the next patient

cannot leave because the patient

0:41:270:41:30

they are dealing with at that moment

cannot get into the accident and

0:41:300:41:35

emergency department. It has been

reported a man froze to death

0:41:350:41:39

waiting 16 hours for an ambulance.

Last week a gentleman wrote to me

0:41:390:41:43

saying my friends 93-year-old father

waited four hours for an ambulance

0:41:430:41:48

after a fall. These are not isolated

cases. These are common parlance all

0:41:480:41:55

over the country. It needs money, it

needs support and it needs it now.

0:41:550:42:02

The Prime Minister is frankly in

denial about the state of the NHS,

0:42:020:42:07

even the absent Foreign Secretary

recognises it by the Prime Minister

0:42:070:42:11

is not listening. People using the

NHS can see from their own

0:42:110:42:16

experience it is being starved of

resources. People are dying

0:42:160:42:20

unnecessarily in the back of

ambulances and in hospital

0:42:200:42:22

corridors. GP numbers are down.

Nurses are leaving. The NHS is in

0:42:220:42:30

crisis. Mr Speaker, Tory MPs might

not like it but I ask this question

0:42:300:42:39

of the Prime Minister, when is she

going to face up to the reality and

0:42:390:42:44

take action to save the NHS from

death by a thousand cuts?

There is

0:42:440:42:53

only one part of the NHS which has

been cut, seen a cut in its funding,

0:42:530:42:59

it is the NHS in Wales under a

Labour government. This is a

0:42:590:43:07

government, this is a government

that is backing the NHS plan, that

0:43:070:43:11

is putting more money into the NHS,

that is recruiting more doctors and

0:43:110:43:16

nurses, that is seeing new

treatments come on board which

0:43:160:43:19

ensure people are getting the best

treatment that they need. This is a

0:43:190:43:23

government that recognises the

priorities of the British people.

0:43:230:43:27

Priority is to ensure the NHS

remains a world-class health care

0:43:270:43:32

system, indeed the best health care

system in the world. Priority is to

0:43:320:43:36

build the homes people need, to make

sure our kids are in good schools.

0:43:360:43:41

This is a government which is

building a country which works for

0:43:410:43:46

everyone, a country in which... A

country in which people can look to

0:43:460:43:51

the future with optimism and hope.

Thank you Mr Speaker, the British

0:43:510:43:58

people need to be confident in the

integrity of our voting system. So

0:43:580:44:03

what is my right honourable friend

doing to follow up on Sir Eric

0:44:030:44:06

Pickles report securing the ballot

to minimise voter fraud, whether

0:44:060:44:12

this is for referenda, general

elections or local elections?

My

0:44:120:44:17

honourable friend raises an

important point, can I congratulate

0:44:170:44:22

him for a very good council

by-election result, the

0:44:220:44:26

Conservatives taking a seat from the

Labour Party. But he raises an

0:44:260:44:31

important issue about strengthening

our process and enhancing the

0:44:310:44:35

confidence people have in our

democratic processes. We will

0:44:350:44:39

shortly be running pilot screams in

five local authorities to identify

0:44:390:44:46

voter ID by nationality, and in

Tower Hamlets and slow and

0:44:460:44:49

Peterborough they will pilot

measures to improve the proxy and

0:44:490:44:54

postal vote process. Democracy

matters but it's important people

0:44:540:44:56

have true faith in it.

Can I wish

you a happy Burns day for tomorrow

0:44:560:45:04

Mr Speaker and can I associate

myself with the remarks of the Prime

0:45:040:45:08

Minister for Holocaust Memorial Day,

we should never forget the horrible

0:45:080:45:12

tragedy and the price people had to

pay but we should remember a

0:45:120:45:15

genocide happening in many

territories since that time as well

0:45:150:45:18

and we must work to eradicate that

scourge our society. Mr Speaker,

0:45:180:45:25

earlier this week the Royal Bank of

Scotland chief executive officer

0:45:250:45:28

admitted in a leaked memo that

closing 22 local branches would be

0:45:280:45:36

painful for customers. 13 towns are

to lose their last bank in Scotland.

0:45:360:45:40

Prime Minister I will give you one

other opportunity, as the majority

0:45:400:45:45

shareholder will you meet with RBS

and make the case to keep the

0:45:450:45:50

branches open?

0:45:500:45:55

The right honourable gentleman has

asked me this on a number of

0:45:560:45:58

occasions and I have made the point

in every answer, and that will not

0:45:580:46:05

change today. We do have a duty as a

government and we look at how the

0:46:050:46:10

market is working. That is why we

establish the access to banking

0:46:100:46:16

standard that commits banks to carry

out a certain number of steps before

0:46:160:46:19

closing a branch and that is why we

welcome the post office but welcome

0:46:190:46:24

customers to use Post Office

services. 99% of personal customers

0:46:240:46:29

can carry out their day-to-day

banking at a post office as a result

0:46:290:46:33

of a new agreement. People are

covered by the services they need.

I

0:46:330:46:39

would say to the Prime Minister, we

owned RBS and it is time you took

0:46:390:46:44

responsibility. By closing these

branches and replacing some with a

0:46:440:46:49

mobile banking vans which do not

provide disability access, The Royal

0:46:490:46:54

Bank of Scotland appears to be in

breach of the UK a quality act. A

0:46:540:47:00

wheelchair user has described using

this as degrading. Does the Prime

0:47:000:47:08

Minister agree RBS has the

responsibility to deliver services

0:47:080:47:13

to disabled people and will she be

held accountable and this issue.

We

0:47:130:47:19

all want to be able to see that all

customers are able to access the

0:47:190:47:24

services they need. That is

customers who are disabled and

0:47:240:47:28

customers who live in remote areas.

As I have said, this is a commercial

0:47:280:47:33

decision taken by The Royal Bank of

Scotland. Banks are closing

0:47:330:47:39

branches, other banks are closing

branches because what they see is

0:47:390:47:43

less use being made of those

branches. As the right honourable

0:47:430:47:49

gentleman has been talking about

matters financial, I am sorry he

0:47:490:47:52

wasn't able to welcome the fact the

trade figures for Scotland showed

0:47:520:47:57

their biggest export market remains

the rest of the United Kingdom.

0:47:570:48:02

Damian Green.

0:48:020:48:07

Damian Green.

Thank you. It is

easier asking them than answering

0:48:080:48:11

them. It is vital for long-term

prosperity the government maintains

0:48:110:48:16

infrastructure investment. With this

in mind and especially as proposals

0:48:160:48:23

for new bridges are fashionable, can

I ask the Prime Minister to commit

0:48:230:48:27

the government to a practical idea,

which is an early start on the lower

0:48:270:48:32

Thames crossing between Kent and

Essex which would create 5000 jobs,

0:48:320:48:36

relieve pressure on the motorway

network and provide a boost to the

0:48:360:48:40

economy of the whole eastern side of

England?

Prime Minister.

My right

0:48:400:48:47

honourable friend is right in

drawing attention to the impact of

0:48:470:48:50

infrastructure when it is developed

in various parts of the UK. In terms

0:48:500:48:55

of the Thames crossing it will

unlock growth for the region and

0:48:550:49:01

offer new connections and better

journeys. It is the best investment

0:49:010:49:07

in the road network in a generation.

Highways England have announced the

0:49:070:49:11

preferred route last year. I

recognise this has raised concerns

0:49:110:49:16

in effect constituencies, but can I

get sure that there will be further

0:49:160:49:21

opportunities for those who both

support the proposals and those who

0:49:210:49:25

do not, they can give their views

and have their say. But he is right,

0:49:250:49:31

infrastructure developments can make

an impact, not just on jobs during

0:49:310:49:35

the infrastructure but on the

economy locally and nationally.

0:49:350:49:43

Outside the customs union, many UK

businesses would face, complex and

0:49:430:49:48

punitive rules of origin tariffs.

Given the Prime Minister's aim of

0:49:480:49:55

frictionless trade post Brexit, can

she confirm if it is her intention

0:49:550:49:59

to pursue a customs union with the

EU?

I have said this on many

0:49:590:50:04

occasions and I am happy to repeat

it. Leaving the European Union means

0:50:040:50:09

we will be leaving the single

market, we will no longer be members

0:50:090:50:13

of the customs union. We want to

sign and implement trade deals with

0:50:130:50:17

other parts of the world as part of

an independent trade pussy. But in

0:50:170:50:25

the negotiations we are looking

forward to for Abbas but feel, we

0:50:250:50:28

will be looking for a tariff free

and frictionless trade agreement as

0:50:280:50:34

possible.

0:50:340:50:39

possible.

Many members on both sides

of the House, myself included have

0:50:390:50:45

expressed concern over the Ministry

of Defence. The Ministry of -- this

0:50:450:50:53

government will always take longer

to protect this country.

My

0:50:530:51:00

honourable friend has raised an

important subject. In July the

0:51:000:51:05

government initiated the National

security capability review, which

0:51:050:51:08

was in support of the

implementation, ongoing

0:51:080:51:13

implementation of the 2015 national

security review, to ensure we do

0:51:130:51:20

indeed, have the capabilities, the

investment in those capabilities we

0:51:200:51:23

need in our national security and

that investment, those capabilities

0:51:230:51:28

are as effective and joined up as

possible. I have agreed the

0:51:280:51:34

high-level findings with ministers

at the National Security Council and

0:51:340:51:37

have directed the work should be

finalised with a view to publishing

0:51:370:51:41

a report on this in late spring. It

has been significant and it will

0:51:410:51:45

ensure we have the right

capabilities. As part of that we

0:51:450:51:49

realise more work was needed on

defence to work on modernising

0:51:490:51:53

defence. We want to ensure the

defence budget is being spent

0:51:530:51:58

intelligently and efficiently and we

are investing in the capabilities we

0:51:580:52:01

need to keep the nation safe. And

the Defence Secretary will update

0:52:010:52:06

the House on this in due course.

It

is a tragedy that in the past year

0:52:060:52:12

knife crime has risen by 26%. The

youth of Ireland's commission is

0:52:120:52:18

conducting the first National youth

survey to look at their experiences

0:52:180:52:22

of trauma and violence. Will the

Prime Minister meet with me to

0:52:220:52:27

discuss the causes of youth violence

and how we can find solutions?

Can I

0:52:270:52:33

say to the honourable lady, it is an

important issue and we need to look

0:52:330:52:37

at this issue. Although she won the

crimes that are traditionally

0:52:370:52:42

measured by the National crime

survey have dropped over a third

0:52:420:52:46

since 2010, we need to consider

these issues of the root causes of

0:52:460:52:51

violence, among young people and

these knife crimes we seek among

0:52:510:52:55

young people. It is important we

remain adaptable and resilient and

0:52:550:52:59

we need to understand that. I am

sure the Home Secretary will be

0:52:590:53:03

happy to meet her to talk about

youth violence and the causes.

On

0:53:030:53:11

the 28th of December, the East of

England Ambulance Service attended

0:53:110:53:15

and addressed in lower soft in which

a man was sadly confirmed of having

0:53:150:53:19

died. It followed on from a call

from the previous afternoon from the

0:53:190:53:24

police regarding the same person who

was left outside in inhospitable

0:53:240:53:34

conditions. I have spoken to the

person who made the initial call and

0:53:340:53:38

I have concerns over how the matter

was handled by the case only came to

0:53:380:53:42

light in the last few days. I would

ask the Prime Minister to endorse

0:53:420:53:46

the request I have made to the east

of England Ambulance Service and

0:53:460:53:50

Suffolk police to immediately

instigate an independent enquiry to

0:53:500:53:55

establish exactly what happened and

to then put in place measures to

0:53:550:53:58

ensure such a tragic event does not

happen again?

Can I share his

0:53:580:54:04

concerns about this event, about

what happens, the tragedy that

0:54:040:54:10

happened here. We should recognise

our Ambulance Services, those

0:54:100:54:15

delivering services, work hard and

regularly go above and beyond the

0:54:150:54:19

call of duty to ensure our safety.

But there have been concerns raised

0:54:190:54:23

about the service in the East of

England ambulance trusts, including

0:54:230:54:27

this very, very worrying and tragic

case is my honourable friend has

0:54:270:54:31

raised. As I said in response to the

Leader of the Opposition earlier, we

0:54:310:54:37

take these cases very seriously. Any

claims patient safety has been put

0:54:370:54:42

at risk are taken seriously and the

Department of Health and social care

0:54:420:54:48

has received assurances these

reports are being investigated by

0:54:480:54:50

the trust as a serious incident. It

is an issue that my honourable

0:54:500:54:56

friend, the Minister of the health

has discussed with executives of NHS

0:54:560:55:01

England and NHS improvement.

3

million people in this country live

0:55:010:55:08

in homes that are unfit, posing a

threat to their health and safety.

0:55:080:55:12

It costs the NHS billions. The House

gave the secondaries into my housing

0:55:120:55:18

fitness pill which will give tenants

new legal rights to act against the

0:55:180:55:25

worst landlords. I was grateful to

have the support of the government

0:55:250:55:29

and the backing of these benches.

But time the Private member 's'

0:55:290:55:36

bills are limited and tenants cannot

wait. Canty ensure this important

0:55:360:55:40

bill will make rapid progress and

become law.

The honourable lady

0:55:400:55:46

raises an important point. We have

seen, over the last six or seven

0:55:460:55:51

years, a significant number of homes

now meeting the decent homes

0:55:510:55:56

standard. The condition in which

people are living is important and I

0:55:560:55:59

will ask the Leader of the House to

look at the issues she has raised

0:55:590:56:03

about her own bill.

Trudy Harrison.

Cumbria is internationally

0:56:030:56:11

celebrated for its lakes and

mountains and known for nuclear

0:56:110:56:14

excellence. This afternoon

Parliament is hosting a taste of

0:56:140:56:20

Cumbria, showcasing our final food

and rent. Can I extend a warm

0:56:200:56:25

invitation to yourself and the Prime

Minister, to come along and sample

0:56:250:56:29

some of our finest fare?

Can I say

to my honourable friend, I am afraid

0:56:290:56:37

my diary does not permit me to

attend that event this afternoon,

0:56:370:56:42

but if I can drop a hint, I

understand there was a taste of

0:56:420:56:46

Lincolnshire offend recently and my

honourable friend sent me some

0:56:460:56:52

Lincolnshire products after the

event. I am not hinting at anything,

0:56:520:56:57

but...

I will come along. Sarah

Jones.

0:56:570:57:08

Jones.

Mr Speaker, this morning,

thousands of us across the country

0:57:080:57:11

heard my friend and former boss,

Baroness Tessa jowl talk for the

0:57:110:57:17

first time since she was diagnosed

with a high-grade brain tumour. It

0:57:170:57:21

was a joy to hear her relentless

positivity and complete commitment

0:57:210:57:26

to changing the world. In a speech

in the other place tomorrow, she

0:57:260:57:32

will call for improved cancer

diagnosis and treatment. Will the

0:57:320:57:37

Prime Minister and the Health

Secretary meet with Tessa, me and

0:57:370:57:40

other health experts to talk about

how we improve outcomes, to meet her

0:57:400:57:45

goal and ultimately save lives?

I

will say to the honourable lady, I

0:57:450:57:52

am sure the whole House was saddened

to hear of the diagnosis of the

0:57:520:58:00

noble Baroness, the noble lady

baroness Abbott encouraged by the

0:58:000:58:04

approach he is taking. I told the

Home Secretary, and her speech this

0:58:040:58:09

morning was very moving in this. I

am sure everybody across this House

0:58:090:58:14

of Sand heard the very best wishes

at this time. We do want to make

0:58:140:58:19

sure cancer treatment is a priority

and we want to make sure the best

0:58:190:58:22

treatments are being provided. We

will consider investing in anything

0:58:220:58:28

that improves that and we have

accepted 96 recommendations in the

0:58:280:58:33

NHS Cancer strategy. We constantly

need to look at this. My right

0:58:330:58:38

honourable friend the Health

Secretary will be happy to meet with

0:58:380:58:41

the honourable lady and Tessa

Jowell.

Tessa Jowell has been an

0:58:410:58:49

outstanding public servant. In my 20

years of this place I have never met

0:58:490:58:52

a more courteous or gracious member

of Parliament.

0:58:520:59:02

The Prime Minister will no of the

0:59:080:59:16

devastation caused by fixed odds

betting terminals. Far cry from the

0:59:160:59:20

bingo Hall, the pools coupon. Given

there is a review, will she meet me

0:59:200:59:30

and others to discuss how the

maximum bet on these terminals can

0:59:300:59:33

be reduced. And to plan how a

crackdown on the online gambling

0:59:330:59:41

sites which target young children.

Mr Speaker, the stakes are too high

0:59:410:59:47

to gamble with our children's

futures.

We are clear the fixed odds

0:59:470:59:54

betting terminals stakes will be cut

to make sure we have a safe and

0:59:540:59:59

sustainable industry were vulnerable

people and children are protected.

0:59:591:00:03

As I suspect, he knows the

consultation the Department for

1:00:031:00:08

digital culture media and sports has

launched on this and a close

1:00:081:00:10

yesterday so a final decision will

be made in due course. He will know

1:00:101:00:14

with regard to the specific point on

children, there are in place,

1:00:141:00:20

controls to prevent children and

young people from accessing online

1:00:201:00:23

gambling and the gambling commission

has asked the gambling strategy

1:00:231:00:28

board to examine the wide

relationship between children and

1:00:281:00:30

gambling. It is important we

recognise the potential threats and

1:00:301:00:35

dangers but ensure we have the best

information possible to be able to

1:00:351:00:38

act.

1:00:381:00:44

My 25-year-old constituent lost her

battle with cervical cancer and died

1:00:441:00:51

in January last year. She went to

her GP around 30 times with symptoms

1:00:511:00:57

and repeatedly asked for a smear

test and was refused. She only got

1:00:571:01:01

the test when she paid to have it

done privately. Sadly the cancer had

1:01:011:01:07

spread by that point. We'll be Prime

Minister support of the family in

1:01:071:01:13

their campaign to introduce Amber's

law which would change the

1:01:131:01:15

regulations so that women under 25

can access a smear test on the

1:01:151:01:21

National Health Service when they

are symptomatic?

I send my

1:01:211:01:27

condolences and I am sure the whole

house does to Amber's family for

1:01:271:01:32

this terrible thing which has

happened. The smear test is hugely

1:01:321:01:36

important. Sadly what we see even

for those who qualify today to have

1:01:361:01:42

the test is that too many women do

not take it up. I know it's not a

1:01:421:01:49

comfortable thing to do. Because I

have it as other stew. But it's so

1:01:491:01:55

important for women's health. I

first of all want to encourage women

1:01:551:01:58

to actually take the smear test.

Secondly she has raised an issue

1:01:581:02:03

about the availability of that test

and I will ask my right honourable

1:02:031:02:08

friend the Secretary of State for

Health to look at this issue. It has

1:02:081:02:12

been raised before for those under

the age of 25. Action has been taken

1:02:121:02:16

in terms of the vaccine which has

been introduced for teenagers. There

1:02:161:02:23

have been questions about that, I

have had people in my constituency

1:02:231:02:27

raising questions about that. We

need to address this issue in every

1:02:271:02:31

way possible so we will look at the

question of age qualification and my

1:02:311:02:36

overall message is, please, those

called for a smear test, go and have

1:02:361:02:40

it.

1:02:401:02:46

it.

Would my right honourable friend

join me in congratulating Bexley

1:02:461:02:51

rugby club on its 60th anniversary

and agree with me that the pursuit

1:02:511:02:54

of sport is good for health and

well-being.

I can see to my right

1:02:541:03:02

honourable friend that I am very

happy to endorse what he has said

1:03:021:03:05

about sport and indeed to enjoy him

in congratulating the rugby club on

1:03:051:03:10

a significant anniversary. I am sure

over all of those years it has given

1:03:101:03:14

many young people and others an

introduction to the joy of sport and

1:03:141:03:18

the way sport can be good for the

community and society and also the

1:03:181:03:23

individual. I am happy to endorse

that.

This week I have been

1:03:231:03:29

approached by a constituent who is a

single mother and up until December

1:03:291:03:34

was a teacher. She has been told she

will have to wait over six weeks for

1:03:341:03:39

Universal Credit payment and been

denied hardship loans. This means

1:03:391:03:43

that she is living on £20 per week

child benefit and the charity of

1:03:431:03:48

food banks. Can the Prime Minister

tell us that is how Universal Credit

1:03:481:03:53

is supposed to work? And does she

regret that my constituent's son now

1:03:531:03:59

joins the nearly 9000 children

living in

1:03:591:04:06

living in poverty and Batley and

Spen?

We made changes to the

1:04:061:04:13

Universal Credit which were

announced in the budget including

1:04:131:04:15

changes which mean the availability

of advanced payments has increased.

1:04:151:04:20

The size of those advanced payments

has increased but if she would like

1:04:201:04:23

to send the details, write in with

the particular details we can look

1:04:231:04:27

at it and make sure it is properly

considered.

The latest figures from

1:04:271:04:35

the Office of National Statistics

show the government is making

1:04:351:04:38

further progress in reducing the

deficit. Would my right honourable

1:04:381:04:42

friend agree it would be reckless to

change course now in terms of a

1:04:421:04:47

policy of Reena as localisation --

of renationalisation?

My honourable

1:04:471:04:57

friend raises an important point, it

has not been easy to the dues the

1:04:571:05:01

deficit in the way that we have. We

had to deal with the biggest deficit

1:05:011:05:06

in our peacetime history left to us

by the Labour Party, decisions from

1:05:061:05:10

the government... Yes. Yes.

Order!

Labour might not like hearing it but

1:05:101:05:18

it is what happened. It is by the

hard work of the British people and

1:05:181:05:24

by decisions the government has

taken we have been able to produce

1:05:241:05:28

that deficit. But £170 billion extra

in order to meet the ideological

1:05:281:05:34

desires of the Leader of the

Opposition would saddle people up

1:05:341:05:38

and down this country with higher

debt and ordinary people would pay

1:05:381:05:41

the price.

Will she instruct the DWP

to release the details of benefits

1:05:411:05:49

claimants with disabilities who have

taken their own lives after the

1:05:491:05:52

claims were turned down, stop

without notice or significantly

1:05:521:05:56

reduced?

The DWP does not give

details of individuals with whom it

1:05:561:06:07

deals. That is absolutely right.

Absolutely right. What it does do is

1:06:071:06:12

ensure we have a welfare system

which provides support to those who

1:06:121:06:16

need it and welfare system that

increasingly encourages those who

1:06:161:06:21

can to get into the workplace

because we continue to believe work

1:06:211:06:24

is the best route out of other day.

In her December press release the

1:06:241:06:32

Bank of England described the UK

financial system as both a national

1:06:321:06:35

asset and a global public good. Does

my right honourable friend think it

1:06:351:06:41

is reasonable that the UK financial

services sector which pays billions

1:06:411:06:44

of pounds in taxes wants to hear the

government ambitions to ensure the

1:06:441:06:50

City of London remains a global

pre-eminent financial settlement in

1:06:501:06:52

the same way it set out ambitions

for other sectors in the summer?

I

1:06:521:06:59

have said in this chamber we retain

that ambition for the City of London

1:06:591:07:04

to remain a global financial centre,

I have said it outside this chamber,

1:07:041:07:08

it is indeed what we are working on.

I was pleased to welcome a number of

1:07:081:07:14

senior representatives from the

financial services sector to number

1:07:141:07:17

ten Downing St only a matter of

weeks ago. To sit down and talk to

1:07:171:07:21

them about how we can ensure that we

do exactly that. London's place as

1:07:211:07:26

the financial sector for the world

is not just to benefit the United

1:07:261:07:30

Kingdom, it's a benefit to the

global financial system and the

1:07:301:07:33

European Union.

It's absolutely

wonderful Mr Speaker that people are

1:07:331:07:43

top thing about building walls but

we in Britain are talking about

1:07:431:07:46

building bridges. But let me

reassure our American friends that

1:07:461:07:52

the Mexicans and the French will be

paying for it because our NHS needs

1:07:521:07:58

to be properly funded first. Can the

Prime Minister confirm that rather

1:07:581:08:03

than building 22 mile long bridges

over the English Channel or a £50

1:08:031:08:08

billion Boris airport in the Thames

estuary, when will be Western rail

1:08:081:08:13

link to Heathrow connect in Wales,

the South and the West directly to

1:08:131:08:20

Heathrow, when more that finally be

built and will we be subjected to

1:08:201:08:25

further studies and consultations?

Can I say to the honourable

1:08:251:08:31

gentleman that I believe there is

very strong cross-party support for

1:08:311:08:34

the Western rail link for Heathrow.

The honourable gentleman has

1:08:341:08:38

expressed his support and my right

honourable friend the member for

1:08:381:08:42

Newbury has been supporting this. It

would reduce journey times for

1:08:421:08:45

passengers in the south-west and

good support the Thames Valley

1:08:451:08:49

economy. It is something I have

looked into as a Thames Valley MP

1:08:491:08:53

previously. Development funding has

been committed for the project and

1:08:531:08:57

the Department for Transport will

write further detail in due course.

1:08:571:09:04

Can I congratulate the Prime

Minister and the parties in Northern

1:09:041:09:07

Ireland for the resumption today of

talks at Stormont. What more can be

1:09:071:09:12

done to ensure the executive is

restored and the nightmare of direct

1:09:121:09:16

rule avoided?

My honourable friend

is absolutely right, the people of

1:09:161:09:23

Northern Ireland need strong

devolved government and political

1:09:231:09:26

leadership and they cannot continue

to have their public services

1:09:261:09:29

suffered by lack of an executive

without ministers making key policy

1:09:291:09:33

and budget decisions. We are

determined to re-establish a fully

1:09:331:09:36

function inclusive devolved

administration which works for

1:09:361:09:41

everyone in Northern Ireland. We

believe that the basis for a deal

1:09:411:09:45

exists and that is why as my

honourable friend has said today,

1:09:451:09:49

the Northern Ireland Secretary

starting a set of political talks to

1:09:491:09:54

restore the executive. I would

encourage, strongly encourage all

1:09:541:09:58

parties to come together and focus

on the job of restoring devolved

1:09:581:10:02

government in Northern Ireland.

Over

Christmas Newcastle United football

1:10:021:10:10

fans raised over £50,000 for the

Western food bank in my constituency

1:10:101:10:16

which you are soon to visit Mr

Speaker, helping to feed people like

1:10:161:10:22

John who despite having COPD,

arthritis, dyspepsia, prose that is,

1:10:221:10:27

type two diabetes and anxiety and

depression was sanctioned for not

1:10:271:10:33

working hard enough to try to find

work. We'll be Prime Minister

1:10:331:10:39

congratulate the people of Newcastle

on their generosity and will she

1:10:391:10:44

explain why it was necessary?

All I

can say to the honourable lady is

1:10:441:10:51

that I applaud all those who give

their time voluntarily, raise money

1:10:511:10:58

across the board in terms of the

activities, she has raised a

1:10:581:11:03

specific example of the work of

people in Newcastle and I commend

1:11:031:11:06

people for when they do raise money

for causes. Can I just say to the

1:11:061:11:15

honourable lady, I cannot discuss an

individual case across this dispatch

1:11:151:11:19

box as she will knows. I think it's

important, it is important that we

1:11:191:11:23

do ensure we have a system which

works, does work properly and fairly

1:11:231:11:28

and I am sure if she wants to raise

the individual case with the

1:11:281:11:33

Secretary of State for Work and

Pensions it will be looked into.

The

1:11:331:11:37

Prime Minister will now be very

welcome and introduction of the

1:11:371:11:40

national minimum wage has created an

as yet unresolved difficulty for the

1:11:401:11:44

care sector. Specifically for 24

hour care for those with significant

1:11:441:11:50

learning difficulties. The issue is

commonly referred to as sleeping

1:11:501:11:56

shifts and owed money to the HMRC.

Will the Prime Minister meet with me

1:11:561:12:01

and a number of concerned colleagues

to discuss the best way forward?

My

1:12:011:12:06

honourable friend raises an

important issue which is of concern

1:12:061:12:09

to a number of organisations and to

others around the house. I am very

1:12:091:12:14

happy to meet her and looked into

this particular question. I would

1:12:141:12:18

say to my honourable friend this is

a matter the Cabinet Office has been

1:12:181:12:22

looking at and working with the

relative Ottoman departments --

1:12:221:12:28

government departments to find a

solution which I know has caused

1:12:281:12:31

concern. That is why there have been

the measures taken to defer the

1:12:311:12:36

abomination of certain aspects of

this but we continue to work on it

1:12:361:12:39

and are happy to look into it.

Nobody has been charged with the

1:12:391:12:46

death of Poppi Worthington despite

the 13 month -year-old having been

1:12:461:12:52

anally penetrated in the hours

before her death at home. She was

1:12:521:12:56

not known to social services despite

a staggeringly troubled family

1:12:561:13:01

history so will she agreed to a

public enquiry so we can learn the

1:13:011:13:07

lessons from this and the children

safer across the country?

I think

1:13:071:13:13

this is a case which has shocked and

appalled everybody around the

1:13:131:13:16

country when they have seen the

horrific abuse which was carried out

1:13:161:13:24

and obviously the tragic

circumstances of the death of Poppi

1:13:241:13:30

and obviously the tragic

circumstances of the death of Poppi.

1:13:301:13:31

I'm sure everyone will join me in

offering my condolences. As I

1:13:311:13:35

understand that the Crown

Prosecution Service has announced it

1:13:351:13:38

is considering the coroner 's

decision in the lesion with Cumbria

1:13:381:13:41

Constabulary and I think is right we

allow that process to continue to

1:13:411:13:46

take place and await the outcome of

it before considering any further

1:13:461:13:51

action being needed. I can assert

the honourable gentleman that I

1:13:511:13:55

think everyone across this house is

well appraised of the significance

1:13:551:13:59

of this issue and how appalling this

tragedy was and the need for us to

1:13:591:14:05

ensure there was indeed Justice but

also lessons are learned.

Order.

1:14:051:14:09

ANDREW: PMQs ending on a sombre

note. As expected, Jeremy Corbyn

1:14:191:14:25

went on the NHS. The extra money the

government was putting in wasn't

1:14:251:14:29

enough. And he quoted A&E doctors

and who should we trust, them or the

1:14:291:14:38

experts. The Prime Minister quoted

statistics, showing various areas

1:14:381:14:44

how she thought the NHS was doing

well. Inevitably, we may want to

1:14:441:14:49

start betting on this.

1:14:491:14:54

start betting on this. Jeremy Corbyn

use some detail, he said 100,000

1:14:581:15:02

patients had to wait more than 30

minutes in an ambulance. He talked

1:15:021:15:05

about the numbers waiting for how

the A&E figures, a weight of no more

1:15:051:15:11

than four hours have been regularly

breached. He said 80 patients had

1:15:111:15:19

been harmed or died over three weeks

while waiting in the ambulances.

1:15:191:15:24

That was the exchange. Whether we

got anywhere is another matter but

1:15:241:15:28

the NHS is always a powerful issue.

Labour think it is its issue and

1:15:281:15:34

that is why Jeremy Corbyn regularly

goes with it. And in the winter

1:15:341:15:38

there is plenty of material he has

to put to the government.

1:15:381:15:42

Let's discuss all this with Brexit

minister Robin Walker and Shadow

1:15:421:15:45

Treasury Minister Anneliese Dodds.

1:15:451:15:46

Laura Kuenssberg is here too.

1:15:461:15:52

Before I interrupted you, Laura.

You

did, well, John Bercow bid, by

1:15:521:15:58

starting on time.

I am happy to be

corrected. And finished early as

1:15:581:16:05

well. We talked about the NHS in the

first part of the programme and

1:16:051:16:10

spoke to the Minister about them. Mr

David Davis, the Brexit minister was

1:16:101:16:15

in front of a select committee and

was being asked questions, maybe it

1:16:151:16:21

was Jacob Rees Mogg that responded,

but he seemed to tell us that in

1:16:211:16:28

this transition period of two years

after we leave, the European Court

1:16:281:16:33

of Justice will still rule and have

jurisdiction in this land.

Explain?

1:16:331:16:38

And in her Florence speech, the

Prime Minister said the transition

1:16:381:16:42

period will be the status quo and

the rules and regulations will stay

1:16:421:16:47

broadly the same and that will mean

the oversight of the European Court

1:16:471:16:53

of Justice. The context is, the

government is expected to set and

1:16:531:16:57

much more detail about the two years

up Brexit day by the end of this

1:16:571:17:04

week. So ears are wagging around

Westminster for any clues. The

1:17:041:17:11

second thing is, for the Tory party,

this debate around what the

1:17:111:17:15

transition period looks like is one

of the central issues of dispute

1:17:151:17:23

between the Brexiteer tendency, of

course from top to bottom in the

1:17:231:17:26

party and those who were advocates

for Remain. And David Davis, who was

1:17:261:17:34

a Brexiteer but now had to make the

thing work. We were saying before

1:17:341:17:39

PMQs, there is even a row before you

get to the actual thing, there is a

1:17:391:17:44

row over what to call it. Is it a

transition period or in

1:17:441:17:49

implementation phase, which is what

the Prime Minister said last day.

1:17:491:17:52

That matters because implementation

is basically meant to be both sides

1:17:521:17:56

getting used to the new arrangements

and transition is things preserved

1:17:561:18:02

in aspect. In your view, what is it,

implementation or transition? This

1:18:021:18:09

matters to a lot of people.

If you

look at the joint report, it is

1:18:091:18:16

both, it refers to both terms. But I

think it is important to reflect the

1:18:161:18:20

fact that this is not a question of,

do we stay in the EU. It is, we are

1:18:201:18:27

leaving the EU but we are taking

time to do it in an orderly way.

1:18:271:18:32

There is a period, if you have two

years, were both sides of the EU and

1:18:321:18:37

the UK get used to set of new

arrangements...

Which would be

1:18:371:18:39

agreed.

Which would be agreed. Or

you have a two-year period which

1:18:391:18:46

would be the status quo and the UK

would be expected to abide by any

1:18:461:18:52

new rules. It will be interesting to

hear from the minister, people want

1:18:521:18:56

to know if the UK can set its own

rules during the two-year period?

As

1:18:561:19:03

you said, the Secretary of State

will be setting out in more detail,

1:19:031:19:07

the way it will work later in the

week. But what I want to point out,

1:19:071:19:13

the UK will be able to start to go

out and prepare a new policy,

1:19:131:19:17

prepare new ground for how things

will be different in the future. The

1:19:171:19:20

Prime Minister said in her speech,

both in her Lancaster House and

1:19:201:19:26

Florence beaches, we need continuity

during the process.

Will anything be

1:19:261:19:32

different in the transition period?

We will no longer be a member of the

1:19:321:19:37

European Union. Anything other than

that? That is a significant point.

1:19:371:19:45

How we prepare for trade policy, go

out and talk to countries. At the

1:19:451:19:50

moment, we can't.

That is not

implementation, it is a preparation

1:19:501:19:54

period.

It is both.

You couldn't

implement, under what is being

1:19:541:20:02

proposed, you could not implement or

sign in new free trade deal with a

1:20:021:20:06

third party?

I think that is

something obviously we are entering

1:20:061:20:12

negotiations on this implementation

period, but we want to be going out

1:20:121:20:15

and talking to the parties during

these arrangements and putting those

1:20:151:20:20

arrangements into place, so they are

ready for the point at which really.

1:20:201:20:24

There is agreement from both parties

about the benefits of having time to

1:20:241:20:29

prepare. Not just from a business

perspective, which we have heard

1:20:291:20:32

loud and clear from businesses in

all sectors, but also in respect of

1:20:321:20:36

the government being able to prepare

for new arrangements that might be

1:20:361:20:40

in place between us in the future.

There is a lot of anxiety about what

1:20:401:20:45

the actual answers to these

questions are on Tory backbenchers,

1:20:451:20:49

which was demonstrated by Mr Rhys

Marg, because he is the head of the

1:20:491:21:00

reform group, the research group,

sorry. They are a powerful grip on

1:21:001:21:05

the Tory backbenches.

Quite well

informed, they

1:21:051:21:11

informed, they do their research.

Will we be able to set out our own

1:21:121:21:18

rules and regulations during the

implementation, transition period

1:21:181:21:22

and I think there may be some

rumblings on the Tory benches that

1:21:221:21:27

may become more public.

You didn't

get an answer, and I didn't get an

1:21:271:21:33

answer and that would have been bad.

If the transition period goes up to

1:21:331:21:39

December 2020 or even into March of

2021, assuming this parliament runs

1:21:391:21:47

its life, that is quite a big

assumption, but assuming it does,

1:21:471:21:51

there is only a year until the next

election as well. There isn't a

1:21:511:21:56

period on which to fight an election

where people have any sense of being

1:21:561:22:01

able to say, well I am glad we did

this, or, it is turning into a

1:22:011:22:07

disaster, because there isn't enough

time?

I think a lot of viewers will

1:22:071:22:13

be thinking, why are we talking

about the interests of a small

1:22:131:22:18

number of Conservative backbenchers

and why aren't we talking about the

1:22:181:22:21

interests of this country? The

message that has come across to me

1:22:211:22:24

from business, we had it again with

the custom-built committee, they

1:22:241:22:29

need to know they will be sticking

with existing rules and all of this

1:22:291:22:33

talk about whether we have got a

transition period, implementation

1:22:331:22:36

period, half in, half out, whatever

it is, it's not helping. We have

1:22:361:22:46

some evidence it is costing jobs. It

is holding up investment decisions.

1:22:461:22:49

Not showing up in this morning's

unemployment figures, is it?

You are

1:22:491:22:55

right, but look at different

sectors. Not staying part of the

1:22:551:22:59

EU's trade remedies regime or not

having rules are strict is that

1:22:591:23:06

regime, we could be flooded with

Chinese imports, potentially.

You

1:23:061:23:11

mean unlike now?

To be fair we have

a number of trade remedies. If we

1:23:111:23:17

didn't have those and if the

government is threatening to take

1:23:171:23:22

those away, we need to have that

security. Being held to ransom by

1:23:221:23:30

somebody like Jacob Rees Mogg, I

have nothing against him personally,

1:23:301:23:35

they are not representing this

country and the government should

1:23:351:23:38

not be driven by this.

It sounds

like the government is closer to you

1:23:381:23:43

on this than it does to Jacob Rees

Mogg.

The government has finally

1:23:431:23:48

come up with what Lega has argued

for, for a long time, we have got to

1:23:481:23:53

accept the reality...

What came from

Labour was absurd. It was in the

1:23:531:24:01

Florence speech, the Lancaster House

speech, we have been clear there

1:24:011:24:04

would need to be a period for the

implementation and move to a new

1:24:041:24:08

agreement. That is the policy we are

seeing through.

You wouldn't accept

1:24:081:24:16

initially there would be any

involvement of the ECJ when it was

1:24:161:24:19

obvious it would have to happen.

The

Prime Minister set that out in her

1:24:191:24:26

Florence speech, it would be under

the same rules.

She didn't, there

1:24:261:24:31

would be instability and concerned

before the government accepted what

1:24:311:24:35

Labour said the whole way.

It is

true a lot of Eurosceptics had

1:24:351:24:41

argued when we leave, the moment the

technically leave, that is when the

1:24:411:24:46

ECJ should no longer... There was a

residual thing in Phase one, they

1:24:461:24:50

would have a residual locus on EU

citizens.

But that was meant to be

1:24:501:24:58

it. It is indeed the case the

Eurosceptics in the Tory party has

1:24:581:25:04

moved a bit about what they were

willing to accept. There is no

1:25:041:25:08

question about that and some

ministers did start off thinking

1:25:081:25:11

there didn't have to be a transition

and then they accepted that, as you

1:25:111:25:16

have been suggesting. The broader

point, the Tory party is not all

1:25:161:25:20

peace and harmony about the

transition period, which is the next

1:25:201:25:24

phase of the huge Brexit challenge

we are about to enter into

1:25:241:25:27

negotiations on.

So watch this

space. We shall watch this space

1:25:271:25:32

indeed. Let me bring you back,

Anneliese Dodds, to a more domestic

1:25:321:25:38

issue. Labour's executive committee

comic called on Labour councillors

1:25:381:25:45

in Haringey to stop a controversial

housing partnership to redevelop a

1:25:451:25:52

large council housing estate. The

NEC said they should stop doing

1:25:521:25:55

this. Is it a proper role for the

NEC?

I believe what they said this

1:25:551:26:01

to have a review after some members

referred it to them. It is a

1:26:011:26:05

difficult issue.

There is a

mediation process and they are

1:26:051:26:10

asking the council to halt it.

But

it seemed clear, the NEC is against

1:26:101:26:17

it?

I am not sitting on the NEC, I

don't know what individuals on the

1:26:171:26:25

NEC is.

This is a local councillor,

he thinks the NEC that Matt Prior

1:26:251:26:30

serve the people of my borough

first, not my party. Regardless of

1:26:301:26:35

what the Politburo say.

Well, it is

funny, I know Joe Goldberg from a

1:26:351:26:45

long time ago. The context for this

is a situation where it is very

1:26:451:26:53

difficult for councils to do

regeneration because of a lot of the

1:26:531:26:56

rules around viability. There is a

discussion about whether this big

1:26:561:27:01

project, whether it is the right way

to go...

But the elected Labour

1:27:011:27:07

councillors of Haringey, most of

them wanted to proceed. Some I read

1:27:071:27:13

in the papers, were quite excited

about what this would do for this

1:27:131:27:17

large council estate in terms of

regeneration?

Do regeneration is

1:27:171:27:22

certainly needed, the question is

whether this is the right way to

1:27:221:27:25

achieve it. That is why we will have

this review. It is important we have

1:27:251:27:30

it. I hope this will raise more

generally, some of the problems we

1:27:301:27:36

have around regeneration. We are in

a difficult situation, where

1:27:361:27:40

developers hold the cards and the

government has done nothing to

1:27:401:27:43

improve that situation, in fact has

done more to make it worse.

Who do

1:27:431:27:48

you side with, the Haringey

councillors or the NEC?

I don't know

1:27:481:27:53

what the opinions of the individual

NEC members are. They are holding

1:27:531:27:57

the review, which is a good idea.

Do

you think the NEC should turn its

1:27:571:28:05

attention to cuts in the council?

Nervous laughter.

I was laughing

1:28:051:28:12

with you.

There is a lot to be seen

in Oxford, let me tell you.

There is

1:28:121:28:21

the issue of regeneration.

Anyway, I

need to put our viewers out of their

1:28:211:28:29

misery and give them the answer to

Guess the Year.

1:28:291:28:38

Guess the Year. It was 2016, not

that long ago. Can you press the

1:28:381:28:42

buzzer. The NEC approved when it

is...

1:28:421:28:45

That's all for today.

1:28:481:28:50

The One o'clock News is starting

over on BBC One now.

1:28:501:28:55

Sarah Smith at noon tomorrow with

another Daily Politics. I hope you

1:28:551:28:59

can join her, goodbye.

1:28:591:29:02

Andrew Neil is joined by undersecretary of state for the department for exiting the European Union Robin Walker and shadow treasury minister Anneliese Dodds with live coverage of Prime Minister's Questions.

Plus discussion on Brexit, the economy and the future of PFI deals.

The Guess the Year competition closes at 12.30pm during the live broadcast of this programme.


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