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-You get a fantastic buzz

-from living a double life.

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-A very, very dangerous man.

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-Nothing to say?

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-It's so sad.

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-A real eye-opener.

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-My name is Sion Jenkins.

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-In this series, I examine

-some of the hot topics of our age.

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-I'll shed light

-on the darker corners of society...

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-..and experience for myself

-the stories that shape our world.

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-Las Vegas, one of the USA's

-most famous cities...

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-..where millions of tourists

-flock every year...

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-..to the sumptuous hotels, the grand

-casinos and the unique atmosphere.

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-But after the biggest massacre

-in US history...

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-..I'm here to learn more about

-a subject that splits this country.

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-The gun laws.

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-On 1 October last year,

-22,000 people had gathered...

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-..to enjoy a music festival

-on Las Vegas' famous Strip.

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-As the festival drew to a close,

-a man called Stephen Paddock...

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-..opened fire on the crowd from

-his room at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.

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-AUTOMATIC GUNFIRE

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-He killed 58 people,

-and 546 were injured.

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-One of those present

-was Anthony Robone.

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-He was there with his girlfriend

-and his brother, Nick...

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-..who had been given festival

-tickets as a birthday present.

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-So, this is it,

-this is where it happened.

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-This is where it happened.

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-It's Anthony's first time back here.

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-Was that the stage?

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-What was your initial reaction

-when you first heard the gunshots?

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-Originally,

-we thought it was firecrackers.

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-We didn't think much of it.

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-It's fine, it's not gunshots,

-it isn't real.

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-As I'm saying that,

-the third round goes off.

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-Someone behind me said, "I got hit."

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-I turned around and saw

-that my brother had been wounded.

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-He was spitting up blood

-and bleeding from his shirt.

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-OK, this is real,

-we've got to get out of here.

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-When he had been shot,

-what went through your head?

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-I was scared to death, you know.

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-Not in the sense of,

-is anyone else going to get hit...

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-..just the sense that he's injured.

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-That's the biggest worry,

-making sure he's OK.

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-But he's tough as nails,

-one of the toughest guys I know.

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-If anyone will get through a gunshot

-to the chest, it's my brother.

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-Nick did survive, but the scars

-remain, both physical and mental.

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-Since the shooting,

-many memorials have been set up.

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-They put faces

-to the horrors of 1 October.

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-As you can see,

-there are 58 crosses here...

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-..to commemorate

-those who died on 1 October.

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-It includes

-over 30,000 individual items...

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-..and was moved from its original

-location on the Las Vegas Strip.

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-This is a book of condolence...

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-..for people to pay tribute

-to those who died.

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-This is quite powerful too.

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-A child, maybe.

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-"Dear Quinton, I miss you so much.

-I can't wait to see you again.

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-"You were such a bright soul

-and I loved you with all my heart.

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-"I can't wait to see you again

-and give you a super big hug...

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-"..and I will be able to finally

-tell you I love you again."

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-There are also contributions

-from survivors of that night.

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-This is from Crystal.

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-"That night will forever be

-one of my worst nightmares...

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-"..but also one of the most amazing

-nights of humanity I've ever seen."

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-Among the messages on the crosses...

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-..are many from the loved ones

-of those who died.

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-There's one very powerful one there.

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-"Dad, my heart is forever broken.

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-"I loved everything about you.

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-"No words can explain

-how much I love you and adore you.

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-"I love you

-with every ounce of strength.

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-"Thank you for being my dad. Your

-son and best friend, Christian."

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-Reading something like that,

-from a son to his father...

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-..makes you think

-about losing your own father.

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-Today, I'm meeting a family

-from Las Vegas...

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-..to ask their opinion

-of America's gun laws.

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-Regulations vary

-from state to state...

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-..but Nevada's

-are among the most lax.

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-You don't need a permit

-to own a gun...

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-..you don't need

-to register weapons...

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-..and there's no limit

-on how many guns one person can buy.

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-Hiya.

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-Hello, how are you?

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-Hello, how are you?

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-Catrin, is it?

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-It's nice to meet you. Are you OK?

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-It's nice to meet you. Are you OK?

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-Fine, thanks.

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-Only one of the Turners

-was born in Wales...

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-..but Welsh is still

-the language of the home.

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-Here we all are. This is my father.

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-Here we all are. This is my father.

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-Hello. Nice to meet you.

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-My brother, Micah,

-and my sister Anya.

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-My other brother, Joshua,

-and my mother, Gwennan.

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-How long have you lived

-in Las Vegas?

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-We've lived here three times.

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-A total of ten years.

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-We've moved a lot.

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-Keith's in the US Air Force,

-which means that we move often.

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-You clearly enjoy being out here.

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-You clearly enjoy being out here.

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-Yes, I love it.

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-Catrin is 19 years old,

-and was born in England.

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-Her family moved to America

-when she was two.

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-She has spent most of her life

-here in Vegas.

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-How did you react

-to the events of 1 October?

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-The shooting at the Mandalay Bay.

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-How did you react?

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-It was really shocking, I mean.

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-It happened 35 minutes away.

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-It was at night,

-and the whole family got up.

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-The phones were engaged.

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-We went through social media.

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-Oh my days, this happened here.

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-Hundreds of people texted us,

-messaged us, to check we were OK.

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-Since the shooting, some have called

-for gun laws to be tightened...

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-..and limiting how many guns

-one person can buy.

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-Do you think

-that stricter gun laws in America...

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-..could have prevented

-what happened at the Mandalay Bay?

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-Um, to be honest, no.

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-People might find that shocking.

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-Of course it would stop everything.

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-But really, no.

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-It's not the fact

-that guns killed all those people.

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-That's not why it happened.

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-It was the man behind it.

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-It was his evil idea.

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-But Catrin's mother,

-who grew up in Wales...

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-..finds it harder

-to accept America's gun culture.

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-Things like that

-don't happen often, obviously.

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-It was very close to our home.

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-Very close to people we know.

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-It was just a shock,

-the biggest shock being the number.

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-Just how many people

-were killed and injured...

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-..and that nothing

-could have been done to prevent it.

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-It was terrible.

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-Are you in favour

-of stricter gun laws?

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-Certainly.

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-A lot of people argue

-that it wouldn't work anyway.

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-That perpetrators of mass shootings

-have something wrong with them.

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-But generally, I think

-stricter laws would be beneficial.

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-Maybe then, over time,

-within a century even...

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-..it might be more applicable

-to get rid of guns completely.

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-Almost 300 people were working

-at the music festival...

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-..at the time of the shooting.

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-I met one of them, Heather Gooze,

-at a community memorial garden.

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-Hi, Heather. How are you?

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-Good. How are you?

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-Good to see you.

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-That night, she was working

-behind one of the bars.

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-But as the bullets hit...

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-..she found herself

-trying to save lives.

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-This was Jordan's Facebook picture,

-him and his girlfriend, Amber.

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-He's the one...

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-I was with him,

-and he didn't make it...

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-..and I stayed with him.

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-So, he's...

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-..even more than anything else.

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-..I'm not a husband or wife...

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-..I'm not a best friend,

-I'm not a girlfriend.

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-I'm a perfect stranger who has

-a connection to this person...

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-..that I'll never ever not have.

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-This is Chris Hazencomb,

-out of California.

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-He got brought out

-on a barrier gate...

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-..that they were using as gurneys.

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-We were holding

-the back of his head.

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-At one point, I had my finger

-in the bullet hole...

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-..trying to stop the bleeding.

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-He got taken to the hospital,

-he didn't make it.

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-Does what happened

-make you change our mind...

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-..or reconsider your opinion

-on guns at all?

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-In my opinion,

-and in a lot of people's opinion...

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-..guns don't kill people,

-it's people that kill people.

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-There are circumstances where guns

-have to be there, be allowed.

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-But they should be regulated

-way more carefully.

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-But you still believe in the right

-to bear arms, despite what you saw?

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-I believe in it as long as

-there are stricter policies...

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-..and much stricter background

-checks and reasons for it.

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-I don't think that anybody should be

-able to just walk in and get a gun.

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-I don't even think

-that just any person...

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-..should be allowed to walk

-into a shooting range and rent one.

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-But, after the break,

-that's just what I'll be doing.

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-I'm in Las Vegas to find out more...

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-..about one of the hot topics

-of US culture - guns.

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-I've heard about a Welshman

-who was in the US armed forces...

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-..who has adopted

-the American way of life.

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-This afternoon,

-I'm meeting Gwyn Davies.

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-Originally from Bethesda...

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-..he has lived here in Las Vegas

-since 1992.

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-He keeps guns,

-and I want to ask him why.

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-Hello?

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-Gwyn, how are you?

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-It's nice to meet you.

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-It's nice to meet you.

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-Sion, come in.

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-Your guns are out here today.

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-Today, yes.

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-It's lovely.

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-It's lovely.

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-Yes, why not?

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-What have we got here?

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-That's a Heckler & Koch handgun.

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-You certainly couldn't

-have one of these in Wales.

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-No, not at all. Not any of them.

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-Is it just the three that you have?

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-I used to have more, but I've kept

-the three that are useful to me.

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-Why are they useful?

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-A bit of sport, a bit of fun.

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-What are these two?

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-Another two that I've kept

-over the years.

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-None of them are loaded, as I said.

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-Squirrels.

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-Right, yes.

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-So, you hunt with this gun?

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-It's a very small bullet,

-.22 calibre.

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-Long round, doesn't go far.

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-Just a little over 100 yards.

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-This one looks quite something.

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-This is the rifle

-that I used in the army.

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-This actual rifle?

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-Yes, an M4 carbine.

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-The difference...

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-The difference between

-an army rifle and this one...

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-It's safe now, it won't fire

-while we're handling it...

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-Two options, safety and single shot.

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-In the army, there's a third option

-which is a little bit more fun!

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-More dangerous.

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-You can watch the money

-being spent faster.

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-Gwyn lives about 15 minutes away

-from the Mandalay Bay Hotel.

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-This is where he heard

-about the shooting.

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-What was your reaction

-to the events in Las Vegas?

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-He hadn't broken the law.

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-There was no reason

-to keep watch on him.

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-He went berserk,

-he wasn't in his right mind.

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-No-one can harm others without

-something being wrong up here.

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-During the year

-before the shooting...

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-..Stephen Paddock bought 33 guns,

-entirely legally.

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-23 were found in Paddock's room

-at the Mandalay Bay.

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-Even so, Gwyn doesn't think stricter

-laws would have made a difference.

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-I don't know how they would have

-caught him, to be honest.

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-That's the thing.

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-If he was going to...

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-If he was evil enough

-to want to hurt people...

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-..he'd find a way.

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-The guns weren't the problem,

-the man was the problem, I think.

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-But for thousands of Americans,

-like Gwyn, shooting is fun.

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-A gun is a plaything, not a weapon.

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-I tell people

-it's like playing golf.

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-Really?

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-Really?

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-I've played golf.

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-All the day's events...

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-..have to be cleared

-from your mind.

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-With golf, it's just you,

-the ball and the club.

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-With this, it's just me,

-my gun and the target.

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-Some people in Wales

-join a choir, but you...

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-Have you heard my voice?!

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-I break windows!

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-Do you keep them

-to shoot an intruder, for example?

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-No, if someone broke in

-at two in the morning...

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-..they'd have to wrestle me

-in my pants, God help them.

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-Meeting a Welshman in Las Vegas

-who keeps such guns is surreal.

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-But I want to meet Americans

-who grew up with this culture...

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-..and who believe passionately

-in their right to bear arms.

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-The Clark County Shooting Complex...

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-..is the USA's largest

-public shooting facility...

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-..set on 2,500 acres

-on the outskirts of Las Vegas.

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-Don Turner, president

-of the Nevada Firearms Coalition...

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-..designed and developed the site.

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-Don is a prime defender of Nevadans'

-rights to own and fire guns.

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-Hi, Don.

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-Hi, Don.

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-Good morning.

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-Welcome to the Clark County

-Shooting Complex.

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-Don promises to show me

-the buzz of firing a gun.

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-I'd like to introduce you to Sion.

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-We've got two new folks here

-that want to sign in and get a card.

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-Go in the dining room, if you like.

-Highlighted portions only.

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-These safety cards are required

-any time you're on the complex.

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-They do not expire. If you

-don't have them, you won't shoot.

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-There we are.

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-I've been given a form to fill in...

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-..before I'm allowed to fire a gun.

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-The only other thing I must do

-before going outside...

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-..is watch a safety video.

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-Don and Doug agree to show me

-what the complex has to offer.

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-To warm up, they give me a shotgun

-to sample clay pigeon shooting.

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-You're right-handed?

-Take this like so.

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-On your shoulder,

-that's where I want the gun.

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-Right there.

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-Bring this elbow up a bit more.

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-Take this hand and put it there...

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-..and bring your cheek down

-and put it on the comb.

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-That's what you want.

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-That's what you want.

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-Will there be much recoil?

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-Not much at all.

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-Shoot one to get the feel for it.

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-Pull!

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-Just behind them.

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-Pull!

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-There are over 300

-shooting ranges in Nevada.

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-Shotguns may be legal in the UK...

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-..but this is the first time

-that I've fired a gun.

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-Soon, my competitive side

-comes to the fore.

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-Pull!

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-There we go.

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-I want to prove

-that wasn't a one-off.

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-Pull!

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-I think I'm doing OK.

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-I've hit four so far, I think.

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-Better than I expected.

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-Pull!

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-Yes!

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-The US Constitution

-gives every individual...

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-..the right to keep and bear arms.

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-But the Second Amendment

-is very controversial...

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-..and has been hotly debated

-over the centuries.

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-It's a piece of legislation...

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-..that Don Turner has spent his life

-keenly supporting and defending.

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-Why are you pro the Second Amendment

-here in the USA?

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-The answer is kind of complicated.

-I'll try to simplify it.

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-When our founders

-put the Constitution together...

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-..they realized that the only thing

-that keeps a government...

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-..from exceeding its authority

-is the citizens being armed.

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-Historically, whenever the

-government has had all the power...

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-..they've been very unfriendly

-to their citizens.

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-So, the primary purpose

-for the Second Amendment...

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-..is to make sure that we the people

-run the government...

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-..and not the government

-dictates to us.

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-Why does it still

-remain pertinent to this day?

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-It was obviously created

-in the 18th century.

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-How can it still be relevant?

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-We are, as a country,

-not trustful of our government.

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-I know we elect them, but they get

-in positions of power and stuff.

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-It is a security thing for us...

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-..to make sure

-that we have the ultimate authority.

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-But isn't that true for many

-countries around the world?

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-That their people

-do not trust their governments?

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-If they don't have the Second

-Amendment, that's their fault.

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-Has what happened at the Mandalay

-Bay had any effect on his opinion?

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-Controlling evil is very difficult.

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-Whatever motivated that person,

-it was evil.

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-We could give up

-all of our freedoms.

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-Benjamin Franklin said

-that those who are willing...

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-..to give up security for safety

-deserve neither security nor safety.

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-The Mandalay Bay

-was a gun-free zone.

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-They disarmed

-all their security guards.

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-There was no way to oppose him.

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-So, such a shooting is not enough

-of a reason to give up your freedom?

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-Not at all.

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-Our homes are sacrosanct.

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-Our Constitution

-forbids the government...

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-..from entering our houses

-without warrants.

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-But aren't people's lives

-sacrosanct as well?

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-Had that man who shot on 1 October

-not had those guns...

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-..would we be here

-talking about such an atrocity?

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-We wouldn't,

-but why did he get them?

0:22:100:22:12

-Why did he do what he did?

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-If we could answer that question,

-we'd solve all the world's evils.

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-If you were at home

-and someone broke in...

0:22:180:22:20

-..you wouldn't think twice

-about pulling that trigger?

0:22:200:22:23

-Oh, I would think twice,

-but I'd still pull the trigger.

0:22:240:22:27

-Clearly, nothing

-will change Don's mind.

0:22:340:22:38

-Hearing someone say such a thing

-so directly is rather shocking.

0:22:380:22:44

-He's now going to show me another

-gun that's illegal in the UK.

0:22:440:22:48

-I've already fired a shotgun,

-but now I'll fire a handgun.

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-I can't do this in Wales

-because handguns have been banned.

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-Don will show me how to do it,

-and we'll see how it goes.

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-Handguns have been banned in Britain

-since the 1996 Dunblane massacre...

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-..the worst mass shooting

-in British history...

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-..when 16 children

-and their teacher were killed...

0:23:110:23:15

-..at a Scottish primary school.

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-But in Nevada, it's legal

-to carry handguns openly...

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-..and to come to a shooting range

-like this one to fire them.

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-Hold it in your hand like this,

-with these three fingers here.

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-This finger stays off the trigger

-until you go on the target.

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-Hold it as steady as you can

-then squeeze the trigger.

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-There's no vetting process

-or checks before people shoot here.

0:23:510:23:56

-When you fill the form,

-you must confirm...

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-..you're not a prohibited purchaser

-who's barred from possessing a gun.

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-Technically, there's nothing to stop

-anyone here from shooting us.

0:24:070:24:11

-The other guys will shoot him.

0:24:110:24:13

-It works out that way.

0:24:150:24:17

-You've got the hang of it.

0:24:180:24:19

-You've got the hang of it.

-

-Am I a natural, Don?

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-That's what you get for bragging.

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-Many Americans come to places

-like this to shoot for fun...

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-..but also to practise

-how to defend themselves.

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-I've had the opportunity

-to live the American life today...

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-..firing guns and wearing this cap.

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-I must admit,

-I did get a buzz from firing guns.

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-But the act of holding a gun

-is a very strange feeling.

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-It feels surreal.

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-I'm shooting at a target.

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-But there are people behind me...

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-..preparing for the possibility

-of shooting a person.

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-For me, that's hard to contemplate.

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-Today, I'm visiting a show where

-guns and shooting gear are sold.

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-After the shooting in Las Vegas

-on 1 October 2017...

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-..some local gun shows

-were cancelled.

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-This will be one of the first shows

-since the shooting.

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-Americans own some 265 million guns.

0:25:550:25:59

-That's more than one gun per adult.

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-Today, I'm meeting Gary and Melissa.

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-Gary's an American,

-but Melissa hails from Port Talbot.

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-They've come here,

-to the Las Vegas Gun Show.

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-You keep guns in the house, do you?

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-You keep guns in the house, do you?

-

-I do.

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-And that's for defence purposes?

0:26:210:26:23

-Yes, I have a pistol

-that I use for home defence...

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-..and I have a rifle

-that I use for fun, sport.

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-Do you have any objection

-to Gary keeping guns?

0:26:300:26:33

-Initially, I did.

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-I was nervous of them,

-not used to them.

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-Being from Port Talbot,

-we don't really have a gun problem.

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-But he made me feel safe

-because I trusted him with a gun.

0:26:420:26:45

-I've seen him shoot it

-and he was actually...

0:26:450:26:48

-Responsible.

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-Responsible.

-

-Very responsible.

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-So, you both feel

-that there's a palpable threat?

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-Absolutely.

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-Absolutely.

-

-In big cities, especially.

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-Where we live, every day on the

-news, there's been a gun crime.

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-Some sort of violent crime.

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-Some sort of violent crime.

-

-At least one, two or three.

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-It is concerning.

0:27:040:27:05

-If they have a gun

-and they come into my house...

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-..we'd better have a gun

-to face them.

0:27:090:27:12

-If we don't...

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-So, in I go, with Gary, Melissa

-and their baby, Cerys.

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-All kinds of things are for sale.

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-It's like a market here, but with

-firearms instead of fruit and veg.

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-Lately, I've been thinking

-about getting a shotgun.

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-I have a pistol and a rifle,

-but a shotgun is real fun to shoot.

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-Someday, I don't right now,

-but I'd like to take up hunting.

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-But as I walk around, not everyone

-welcomes the camera's presence.

0:27:460:27:51

-But one woman is more than happy

-for us to film at her stall...

0:27:570:28:01

-..and to share her opinion.

0:28:020:28:03

-If you take my rights away...

0:28:040:28:05

-..then the criminals are the ones

-that are going on the street...

0:28:050:28:09

-..finding guns and knocking on your

-door in the middle of the night.

0:28:090:28:12

-Of course, we've got key chains,

-bullet-crafted earrings...

0:28:120:28:17

-That's quite telling -

-we don't call 911.

0:28:170:28:20

-You don't have any trust

-in the police, perhaps?

0:28:210:28:25

-I will still call 911.

0:28:250:28:28

-I will call 911

-after I have my weapon in my hand.

0:28:280:28:33

-But after the interview,

-the atmosphere seems unfriendly.

0:28:350:28:39

-Some people start to get

-fairly aggressive towards us.

0:28:400:28:43

-We spent about 20 minutes in there

-before we were asked to leave...

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-..despite having permission to film.

0:29:020:29:05

-According to the man

-who runs the show...

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-..a lot of the sellers feel unhappy

-about seeing a camera at the show.

0:29:080:29:13

-Clearly, sensitivities

-are still running high...

0:29:130:29:16

-..after the Mandalay Bay shooting.

0:29:170:29:19

-Groups that lobby

-to strengthen gun laws...

0:29:310:29:34

-..have been even more vocal

-since 1 October.

0:29:340:29:37

-One of them, Moms Demand Action...

0:29:370:29:40

-..has invited me

-to its monthly meeting.

0:29:410:29:44

-Hi!

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-Hi!

-

-Hi, Elizabeth, how are you?

0:29:480:29:50

-Nice to meet you.

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-So, here you all are.

0:29:550:29:56

-So, here you all are.

-

-Yes.

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-Ladies, this is Sion.

0:29:570:29:58

-Ladies, this is Sion.

-

-Hi, ladies, nice to meet you.

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-What exactly are you doing?

0:30:040:30:05

-Moms as an organization

-does care card-writing events.

0:30:050:30:08

-We write cards

-to gun violence survivors.

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-I've combined that with an event...

0:30:120:30:14

-..where we write to our senators

-and representatives.

0:30:140:30:18

-The group wants to see

-two measures passed.

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-One involves domestic violence.

0:30:220:30:25

-The other seeks improved

-background checks on gun buyers.

0:30:260:30:29

-If you've been accused

-of domestic violence...

0:30:300:30:32

-..and you're not a spouse

-or a live-in boyfriend...

0:30:320:30:35

-..you fall through a crack.

0:30:350:30:36

-Later, you could be

-in another relationship...

0:30:370:30:39

-..and you would not be prohibited

-from owning weapons.

0:30:390:30:42

-We'd like to close that loophole.

0:30:420:30:44

-Anyone convicted

-of domestic violence or stalking...

0:30:440:30:46

-..would automatically

-have their right to own weapons...

0:30:470:30:49

-..taken away if convicted.

0:30:500:30:52

-Right now, our background check

-system is lacking information.

0:30:520:30:56

-We would like there to be

-more information in the system.

0:30:570:31:00

-Would a bill such as that one...

0:31:000:31:02

-..have stopped Stephen Paddock

-from doing what he did in Las Vegas?

0:31:020:31:06

-I am not aware that any legislation

-that we could have passed...

0:31:070:31:10

-..would necessarily

-have affected him...

0:31:100:31:12

-..and I wish there were some

-legislation that we could pass...

0:31:130:31:16

-..retroactively...

0:31:160:31:17

-..but these bills in the future will

-prevent people from doing harm...

0:31:180:31:21

-..especially domestic abusers.

0:31:220:31:24

-I had expected the group

-to be completely anti-gun...

0:31:260:31:29

-..but to my surprise,

-that's not true.

0:31:290:31:32

-You're not actively opposed

-to the Second Amendment.

0:31:340:31:37

-A lot of our members are gun owners.

0:31:370:31:40

-I just think that it's

-not practical in this country.

0:31:400:31:44

-I think the solution...

0:31:440:31:46

-..has more to do

-with things that we can control...

0:31:460:31:50

-..as opposed to taking things

-away from people.

0:31:510:31:54

-But after spending time

-with the women...

0:31:550:31:58

-..it's clear to me that they are

-determined to bring about change.

0:31:580:32:04

-There are things that we can do.

0:32:040:32:06

-We use the horrible sadness

-of these events...

0:32:060:32:09

-..to power us through

-and support people in the future.

0:32:100:32:13

-The Turner family home...

0:32:190:32:21

-..is behind security gates

-in an affluent part of Las Vegas.

0:32:220:32:26

-Unlike many of their neighbours,

-they have no guns in the house.

0:32:260:32:30

-I want to know why.

0:32:310:32:32

-What's your opinion

-of American gun laws?

0:32:320:32:37

-The Second Amendment

-and the right to own a gun?

0:32:370:32:42

-Twenty years ago,

-I'd have been definitely against it.

0:32:430:32:47

-After living in America

-for so long...

0:32:480:32:51

-..I realize that it's part

-of the American psyche.

0:32:510:32:55

-It's hard to separate Americans

-from their guns.

0:32:560:32:59

-Myself, I don't like guns at all.

0:33:000:33:02

-I've never touched a gun

-or fired a gun...

0:33:020:33:06

-..and we don't have a gun here.

0:33:060:33:08

-I don't want a gun in my own home,

-with the children and so on.

0:33:080:33:13

-I don't feel the need for a gun

-with which to defend myself.

0:33:140:33:19

-But I do respect the right

-that Americans have to own a gun.

0:33:190:33:23

-Some of Gwennan's experiences

-with guns in America shock me.

0:33:250:33:30

-I once took the boys to soccer.

0:33:300:33:32

-It was late and we hadn't eaten.

0:33:330:33:35

-I said we'd go for tacos

-after training.

0:33:350:33:39

-We got out of the car

-and into the shop.

0:33:390:33:42

-Someone said we probably

-didn't want to eat there.

0:33:420:33:45

-It turned out that someone

-had just shot through the window.

0:33:460:33:49

-There was a bullet hole in it.

0:33:500:33:52

-It must have been a new experience.

0:33:520:33:53

-It must have been a new experience.

-

-It was really scary.

0:33:530:33:54

-But as someone who grew up there,

-is Catrin's opinion different?

0:33:570:34:02

-What do you think

-about the right to own guns?

0:34:030:34:06

-For me, guns are just

-a really normal part of my life.

0:34:070:34:10

-All my friends have guns.

0:34:110:34:12

-It's just normal for me.

0:34:120:34:14

-It's abnormal

-that we don't have any.

0:34:140:34:17

-Have you ever fired a gun?

0:34:170:34:20

-Yes, we have a lot of relatives

-in Arizona, where Dad's from.

0:34:200:34:25

-Loads of people there

-go out hunting.

0:34:250:34:30

-They're really good with guns,

-it's almost a sport for them.

0:34:300:34:34

-I went out there

-when we lived in Missouri.

0:34:350:34:38

-A bit more back country.

0:34:380:34:40

-A school field trip went to a gun

-range and everyone shot guns.

0:34:400:34:44

-What if one of your children,

-when they're older...

0:34:460:34:50

-..decide to buy a gun

-and keep a gun in the house?

0:34:500:34:53

-Would you have a problem with that?

0:34:540:34:56

-I'd be surprised, first of all.

0:34:570:34:59

-No, it wouldn't be a big problem.

0:34:590:35:02

-But I'd insist

-that they get training.

0:35:020:35:05

-A lot of people here have held guns

-and fired guns as children.

0:35:050:35:11

-They know how to handle a gun,

-but our children don't.

0:35:110:35:15

-Training courses do exist.

0:35:210:35:24

-Some are even aimed solely at women.

0:35:240:35:27

-Any time

-there is a shooting of any kind...

0:35:320:35:34

-..they start this gun control crap,

-and that's my opinion.

0:35:350:35:38

-Of course, as it's Nevada,

-the man in charge is Don Turner.

0:35:400:35:44

-They learn basic firearm safety

-and storage.

0:35:460:35:49

-We teach them about

-our suicide prevention programme.

0:35:490:35:53

-They get issued with gun locks...

0:35:530:35:55

-..so they can keep them locked,

-if they want.

0:35:550:35:58

-Then we have coaches

-that help them shoot.

0:35:580:36:01

-The course started last April.

0:36:010:36:04

-On launch day,

-they had prepared to train 60 women.

0:36:050:36:09

-They ended up training almost 300,

-and turned over 600 away.

0:36:090:36:15

-What brings you here?

0:36:190:36:21

-A website in our neighbourhood

-mentioned the Annie Oakley Program.

0:36:210:36:25

-I do have a gun at home.

0:36:260:36:27

-I wanted to learn how to do it

-properly from the experts.

0:36:270:36:31

-Why do you want to make sure

-that you know how to do it properly?

0:36:320:36:36

-Eventually, I'm going to be

-carrying it on me just for safety.

0:36:370:36:40

-I don't want to shoot somebody

-I'm not supposed to be shooting.

0:36:410:36:44

-For example, 1 October...

0:36:450:36:47

-..when we had

-that terrible thing happen here.

0:36:470:36:51

-It's happening

-all over the country.

0:36:510:36:53

-Northern Nevada schools got shot up.

0:36:530:36:57

-I think it's my responsibility

-to take care of myself.

0:36:590:37:03

-With everything

-that's going on in society now...

0:37:040:37:07

-..and being a single parent

-of a small daughter...

0:37:070:37:11

-..I feel it'll be beneficial for me

-to have these skills as a female...

0:37:110:37:15

-..to protect myself and my family.

0:37:150:37:18

-Describe for me how you feel,

-personally, when you shoot a gun.

0:37:230:37:27

-I feel confident...

0:37:270:37:30

-..and I do not feel

-like I'll ever be a victim.

0:37:300:37:34

-And that's important to me.

0:37:340:37:36

-It feels great.

0:37:370:37:38

-It feels very comfortable,

-I don't feel uneasy about it.

0:37:380:37:41

-I've gotten over that

-and I'm ready for some more.

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-I've come to Las Vegas...

0:38:000:38:02

-..to discuss America's

-obsession with guns...

0:38:020:38:06

-..and to see if what Stephen Paddock

-did here last year...

0:38:060:38:10

-..has had any effect on the debate

-that divides the country.

0:38:100:38:14

-But how easy is it

-to buy a gun here?

0:38:200:38:24

-Today, I join a Nevada resident

-to witness the exact process.

0:38:250:38:29

-Here we are then.

0:38:330:38:34

-Here we are then.

-

-Here we are.

0:38:340:38:35

-Before coming over, I contacted

-28 gun shops in Las Vegas...

0:38:440:38:50

-..to ask permission to film.

0:38:500:38:52

-This is the only shop

-that agreed to open its doors to us.

0:38:520:38:56

-Hey, Jackie, I'm Sion.

0:38:590:39:00

-Nice to meet you.

0:39:000:39:02

-So, what exactly is your affiliation

-with this store?

0:39:050:39:08

-What do you do

-with regards to firearms in Vegas?

0:39:080:39:11

-We support each other.

-I'm a local instructor.

0:39:110:39:14

-This store sell guns and ammunition.

0:39:140:39:17

-I send people here because

-they have good customer service...

0:39:170:39:22

-..and they're patient with newbies.

0:39:220:39:25

-Jackie introduces us to Mike, who'll

-explain the process of buying a gun.

0:39:250:39:30

-This is going to be your first gun?

0:39:300:39:32

-This is going to be your first gun?

-

-Yes.

0:39:320:39:33

-The biggest question,

-are you a resident of Nevada?

0:39:330:39:36

-Yes, I am.

0:39:370:39:38

-That's pretty much all you need

-to be in order to buy a gun here.

0:39:380:39:42

-There's a bunch of other things

-that will preclude you.

0:39:420:39:45

-Do you know what you want?

0:39:460:39:47

-Do you know what you want?

-

-I'm just looking to shop.

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-Can I have that one then?

0:39:560:39:57

-Can I have that one then?

-

-Sure. How old are you?

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-I'm 19.

0:39:590:40:00

-I'm 19.

-

-You can't have any from this case.

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-No handguns.

0:40:020:40:03

-No handguns.

-

-What can I have?

0:40:030:40:04

-Any long gun, at 19.

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-Pretty much everything behind me.

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-OK.

0:40:090:40:10

-To buy a handgun in Nevada,

-you need to be 21.

0:40:110:40:15

-You can buy a shotgun

-or rifle aged 18.

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-Alright, let's take that one then.

0:40:200:40:22

-If I was to buy one today,

-which one would you recommend?

0:40:230:40:27

-A shotgun or a rifle?

0:40:270:40:28

-A shotgun or a rifle?

-

-A rifle.

0:40:280:40:29

-Pretty much any of the AR platform.

0:40:300:40:33

-They're lightweight and low recoil.

0:40:330:40:36

-Really multipurpose.

0:40:360:40:38

-Show me a couple of these ones.

0:40:380:40:40

-No way could I buy this. What?!

0:40:410:40:43

-Yes, this is the one.

0:40:450:40:46

-It's calling my name!

0:40:460:40:48

-Now that I know I can get that one,

-what's the next step?

0:40:480:40:52

-This is a 4473.

0:40:520:40:53

-That is the form

-you need to fill out...

0:40:540:40:57

-..to purchase a handgun,

-a long gun, any gun in America.

0:40:570:41:02

-These are the main questions that

-you need to go through and answer.

0:41:020:41:07

-There are questions about criminal

-and mental health history...

0:41:100:41:14

-..drug addiction

-and domestic violence convictions.

0:41:140:41:18

-If I was to do this today...

0:41:230:41:25

-..how soon could I

-actually possess the firearm?

0:41:250:41:28

-As long as they don't need to look

-into you any further, same day.

0:41:290:41:33

-How many guns could she buy

-after being given the OK?

0:41:330:41:38

-Anywhere from one to...

0:41:390:41:41

-There is no real limit.

0:41:410:41:43

-It's our judgement.

0:41:430:41:44

-If she's buying

-a bunch of different guns...

0:41:450:41:48

-You can tell really easily

-why they're buying guns.

0:41:480:41:51

-Technically, Catrin

-could buy one gun here...

0:41:510:41:55

-..and another from another shop

-and so on, all in the same day?

0:41:550:41:59

-Yup.

0:41:590:42:00

-There's no law against that anyway.

-You can do that normally.

0:42:010:42:04

-But if you didn't want it to be sent

-in to the national tracing centre...

0:42:050:42:09

-..no other gun store would know.

0:42:090:42:11

-But I wouldn't be able...

0:42:120:42:14

-But I wouldn't be able...

-

-You would not be.

0:42:140:42:15

-You can look, you can't touch.

0:42:150:42:17

-Because I'm not a US resident.

0:42:170:42:18

-Because I'm not a US resident.

-

-Correct.

0:42:180:42:19

-So, Catrin completes a form to see

-if she would pass the relevant test.

0:42:230:42:28

-What do you think about the fact

-that it's as easy as filling a form?

0:42:290:42:35

-It's much easier than I thought.

0:42:350:42:37

-People in Wales ask

-if I can just go in and buy one.

0:42:380:42:42

-No, you can't do that.

0:42:420:42:43

-But actually, you can.

0:42:440:42:46

-Mike calls the National Instant

-Criminal Background Check System.

0:42:470:42:52

-Ten minutes later,

-Catrin gets the green light.

0:42:520:42:55

-So, you're good to go.

0:42:570:42:59

-Let's do it!

0:42:590:43:00

-Obviously, Catrin's mother

-wouldn't be happy...

0:43:010:43:04

-..if I let her bring a gun home,

-but going through the process...

0:43:040:43:08

-..has been an eye-opener

-for Catrin and for me.

0:43:080:43:12

-What have you learnt about the whole

-process since we entered the shop?

0:43:120:43:17

-It was cool, actually.

0:43:170:43:19

-I've never been into a gun shop

-and asked what I'd be able to buy.

0:43:190:43:23

-I could actually do this now.

0:43:260:43:29

-That's mind-blowing.

0:43:290:43:31

-Today is Thanksgiving, the biggest

-day of the year for many Americans.

0:43:430:43:49

-I'm spending the evening

-with Heather Gooze...

0:43:500:43:54

-..and other music festival staff

-who survived on 1 October.

0:43:540:43:59

-They've all come together

-on Thanksgiving.

0:44:000:44:02

-This is Sion, everybody.

0:44:030:44:04

-Before 1 October, most of the group

-didn't know each other.

0:44:070:44:11

-They now meet regularly...

0:44:120:44:13

-..to support each other

-through the difficult times.

0:44:140:44:17

-We're so lucky

-that not one of our group died.

0:44:180:44:21

-I feel very lucky

-and loved more than ever.

0:44:220:44:25

-You got a view of the entire thing.

0:44:250:44:27

-You got a view of the entire thing.

-

-Unfortunately, we saw everything.

0:44:270:44:30

-It was so scary

-seeing people just running out...

0:44:300:44:34

-Running out, seeing people stop,

-laying behind.

0:44:350:44:39

-We were running past strollers

-and chairs, trampled.

0:44:400:44:43

-These people were happy, wonderful

-people, just enjoying a concert.

0:44:430:44:49

-What's your story of that night?

0:44:490:44:52

-I ran through the VIP tent.

0:44:520:44:55

-I ran outside, and the third

-or fourth barrage of gunfire came.

0:44:560:45:01

-I jumped to the side, of course.

0:45:020:45:04

-I saw the ricochet

-come off the ground...

0:45:050:45:07

-..and somebody get shot in the head.

0:45:080:45:10

-Really?

0:45:100:45:11

-Something like that must be quite

-hard to erase from your memory.

0:45:120:45:15

-It's not erasable, for sure.

0:45:160:45:17

-I'm still having

-terrible night terrors.

0:45:180:45:21

-I'm still trying...

0:45:210:45:22

-I'm getting a lot of help.

0:45:230:45:24

-The most help

-is when I'm around these people.

0:45:240:45:27

-After a week experiencing

-US gun culture for myself...

0:45:480:45:52

-..I've seen how entrenched

-in the American psyche...

0:45:520:45:55

-..the right to bear arms is.

0:45:560:45:58

-Ridding the USA of guns

-seems to me to be highly unlikely...

0:46:000:46:04

-..whether it's Trump or whoever

-in the White House...

0:46:040:46:09

-..and however many lives are lost.

0:46:090:46:11

-As someone from Wales

-who has moved to America...

0:46:130:46:17

-..and embraced

-the way of life here...

0:46:180:46:20

-..do you believe,

-if it was possible...

0:46:210:46:23

-..that it would be a better place

-if it got rid of guns?

0:46:240:46:27

-That's so idealistic.

0:46:280:46:31

-I can't foresee

-that happening at all.

0:46:310:46:34

-I can foresee more controls,

-but not getting rid of guns.

0:46:340:46:39

-They're a part of the Constitution.

0:46:390:46:42

-A lot of people think,

-why not get rid of all the guns?

0:46:450:46:49

-But honestly, you can't do that.

0:46:500:46:52

-I'd want to.

0:46:530:46:54

-If everyone had to make a decision,

-guns or no guns, they'd say no guns.

0:46:540:47:00

-But that couldn't happen.

0:47:010:47:04

-If you want guns to go away,

-the good guys will take notice.

0:47:040:47:08

-People who know the laws

-will obey them.

0:47:090:47:12

-But do you think the bad guys

-would give up their guns?

0:47:130:47:16

-Could you live without these guns?

0:47:190:47:22

-If someone took them,

-could you live a happy life?

0:47:220:47:27

-They're not as important

-as air and food, no.

0:47:270:47:30

-I could live without them.

0:47:310:47:32

-But I enjoy them, and why should I

-give up something I enjoy?

0:47:330:47:37

-Would you like to see

-an America that is gun-free?

0:47:430:47:46

-No, because it takes away my right

-to defend my family.

0:47:460:47:49

-Even if no-one could have a gun?

0:47:500:47:52

-Even if no-one could have a gun?

-

-That's theoretically impossible.

0:47:520:47:55

-Evil will always flourish.

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