Part 2 Election 2017: Wales

Talking of Swansea West, Swansea East is about to declare. Let's go

there. I, being the acting returning

officer at the election held on Thursday 8th of June 2017, do hereby

give notice that the numbers of votes cast for each candidate is as

follows. Dan Bouchier, Conservatives, 9139. Chris Evans,

Welsh Green Party: 359. Carolyn Harris, Welsh Labour: 22,000...

CHEERING Charlie Hastert, Welsh Liberal

Democrats. 625. Clifford Johnson, UK

Independence Party, Ukip: 1040. Steffan Phillips, Plaid Cymru :

1689. I hereby declare that Carolyn Harris has been duly elected.

Swansea East, then, is held by Carolyn Harris with 22,000 307. The

Conservatives in second place. She has been a Shadow Minister for home

affairs in Corbyn's Cabinet since October 2000 16. -- 2016.

Let's go back to Ynys Mon. The count is over and you are the AEM but your

attempts as a party to have an MPs slipped to third place, you must be

disappointed? It's clearly a big disappointment, where a few weeks

ago we were realistically looking at taking the seat. But I think in the

context of what we have seen being revealed across Wales and the UK

this evening, I don't think it should be altogether a huge surprise

that we were not able to take a seat of Labour. Our photos stayed similar

to last time, but as we were talking -- our voters select try stayed

But with Corbyn and may and the Conservatives, it's cost us dearly.

Clearly disappointing. A certain sense of inevitability, somehow.

What about your message? We are squeezed, it's a boundary try

binary... I'm sorry, we have to go to Jeremy Corbyn's declaration in

Islington North. We seem to be having sound problems

but they hear is, Jeremy Corbyn in the background looking very happy.

We don't know if the sound problems in the hall perhaps with in our

systems here at the BBC. But Jeremy Corbyn looks extremely jolly. Let's

try and get back for his speech, let's go to Cardiff North where

there are rumours that has gone to Labour. Seeing as we has no sound in

Islington. There's the count in Cardiff North a crucial seat.

Anna McMorrin for Labour. A former special adviser. The number of

Conservative seats that have survived as we have seen, Craig

Williams will be a big scalp and this will be a big seat for Labour

to take. Many years, it was the bellwether. I have to say, in the

build-up to this campaign, and certainly before the polls squeezed,

I think a lot of people thought that this was almost safe Conservative

territory. It doesn't seem like that now. We can see them huddled round

Anna McMorrin there. And the Minister in the Welsh Government

there. Clearly, a lot of huddling going on around Labour. I don't know

what you should read up on that. -- into that. A full recount in

Ceredigion. Boris Johnson has regained his seat, not a big

surprise. We expect Cardiff North soon. All we would expect Cardiff

North to go to Labour based on the kind of swings and the kind of

pattern we have seen in well so far. Ceredigion, Plaid is not doing well.

They could get one of the lowest shares of the national vote yet.

That is what happened in 1997, four seats with one of the lowest shares

of the national vote. We could do the same here. So that they are in

the count, ready in Cardiff North. By, the undersigned, being the

acting returning officer at the election of a member of Parliament

for those Cardiff North constituency, held on Thursday

eighth June 2017, hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded

for each candidate in said election are as follows. Matthew Hemsley,

Liberal Democrats: 1714. Anna McMorran, Welsh Labour:

Craig Williams, Welsh Conservative Party: 21907.

SPEAKS WELSH. I hereby declare that the said Anna McMorrin is duly

elected as member of Parliament for the Cardiff North constituency. A

very happy and -- a very happy Anna McMorran at try

elected. Former adviser to the Welsh Government, beating Craig Williams

into second place he had represented the seat since 2015. Plaid Cymru

slip in third place. Liberal Democrats

Let's have a look at Jeremy Corbyn who has been re-elected in Islington

North. This is what he had to say. This election was called in order

for the Prime Minister to gain a larger majority in order to assert

her authority. The election campaign has gone on for the past six weeks,

I've travelled the whole country, I spoke at events and rallies all over

the country. And do you know what? Politics has changed. Politics is

not going back into the box where it was before. What has happened is,

people have said they have had quite enough of austerity politics. I have

had quite enough of cuts in public expenditure, underfunding health

service and schools and education service, and not giving our young

people the chance they deserve in our society. And I'm very proud of

the campaign that my party has run, our manifesto for the many not the

view. And I'm very proud of the results that are coming in all over

the country, of people voting for hope for the future and turning

their backs on austerity. And so, if there is a message from tonight's

result, it's this: the Prime Minister called the election because

she wanted a mandate. Well, the mandate she has got is lost

Conservative seats, lost votes, lost support and lost confidence. I would

have thought that enough to go, actually. And make way for a

government that will be truly representative of all of the people

of this country. And so, we await the rest of the results, but I can

assure you of this. In the new parliament, we will do everything we

can to ensure everything we have said in this campaign and everything

that is included in our manifesto is put before Parliament, so that this

country can be a different, and I believe, fundamentally, better

place. The participation in this election by many who have not

participated in elections before, shows the determination to do

something very differently in this country. And take a different stance

towards the rest of the world. I am very proud of what we have achieved

here in Islington. I'm proud of the campaign our party has waged in this

election campaign. And I'm very confident of the future, very

confident of the future we will grow even faster and further. And that we

will be able to carry out those pledges in our manifesto. To

properly fund health, properly fund education, properly funded social

care, and give all of our young people a real chance for a future,

free from debt and full of opportunity. To the people of

Islington, thank you very much indeed. To the people of this

country, I say thank you to all those who have given such support

and confidence in the Labour Party. And thank you to all those all over

the country who have worked so hard for this day. We will carry on

because we believe in a better future for all. Thank you all very

much indeed. A very passionate and please Jeremy Corbyn. Politics has

changed forever, he said. Let's go to our politicians here on the sofa.

Thank you. I have an entirely fresh panel and three Darrens. Let's hope

I can tell them apart. As these riggers. Darren Millar for

Conservatives, Darren Williams for Labour, Valerie Williams, thanks for

not being called Darren. Darren Hill is a political commentator, so is

Valerie I should have said. And for the Liberal Democrats, Mike German.

Thanks all of you for joining us. Darren, you are a long-term Jeremy

Corbyn supporter and a time when many in your party and in Welsh

Labour were expressing concerns about him. Is this vindication for

Jeremy Corbyn tonight? I think it is. It is a tremendous night for

Labour and Jeremy and puts like to the idea there is any necessary

conflict between principle and electability. What is it do you

think that turned the tide in this campaign? I think it is the fact

that people had the opportunity to hear what Labour stands for without

the kind of filter without the media and the misrepresentation Pramac we

have seen and what Jeremy stands for. We have seen in Labour's

manifesto the policies it offers, the chance for a more equal society,

a break from austerity and that appeals to people. As Jeremy said,

it is a choice between hope and fear and many people have chosen hope.

The Conservatives ran a poor campaign. Theresa May as many people

have said took a gamble in seeking a bigger mandate and it has backfired

on her. Since then, they've been a number of gass on social care and

the manifesto and in so many other ways. And I think that has

contributed but it is more positive than that because people have

responded in a positive way to what Labour is offering. UK wide, we

heard fighting talk from Jeremy Corbyn. He wants to be in government

wanting to implement his manifesto. The BBC for costing 322 seats for

the Conservatives, which, when you talk about Sinn Fein not talking

about their seats, it gives them one seat to play with. Would you want to

see Jeremy Corbyn seeking out support from other parties on the

left to try to form a government if, indeed, that prediction is vaguely

correct? It is very early and is difficult to know how things will

pan out. I'd like to see Jeremy heading a government that would take

this country in a different direction but there are so many

unknowns at the moment. If he is going to be in that position, he

will have to depend on the cooperation of other parties. One of

the things Labour have done is galvanised opinion. We have seen a

polarisation around Labour and the Tories and Jeremy is in a strong

position to seek that supports. Is this the end of Labour division

within Parliament? Will be MPs rally round after this sort of

performance? I hope they will because the argument many of them

put to the vote was that journey was not a credible leader and this

evening's results have demonstrated that isn't correct. So I think he

deserves their support now. He has run a fantastic campaign and they

need to rally round. A bad night for the Conservatives. It looks as

though your leader has blown the election which couldn't be blown.

Let's put it into perspective. This result is off the back of a result a

few weeks ago in the council elections where we got a record

number of local authority representatives in Wales. Tonight's

result represents the biggest share of the vote the party has had in 100

years so the fact we have got the sort of votes from the left

consolidating behind the Labour Party is what has made that a red

tide higher than a lot of people were expecting. Let's not forget

either Jeremy Corbyn was speaking as though he has won the election. It

hasn't, the Conservatives are by far the biggest party going into the

next Parliament. It remains to be seen, that. Does Theresa May need to

go whatever happens given the failure to perform? What we have to

do is reflect on what has happened, let the dust settle on the result

because we don't know the final result. And then reflect on our

campaign. Whether things we could have done better? Absolutely. One of

the things in Wales in particular was we needed to have a more Welsh

campaign. That has been of benefit to the Labour Party in Wales... On

that point... I need to... Thank you. I'm rushing you because I want

to speak to your former colleague, Craig Williams, who has lost his

seat in Cardiff North. Commiserations and thank you very

much for joining us. What has gone wrong for you in Cardiff North, do

you think? It is a good question and we will have to look at it but let's

not rush to judgment is. Nobody has been more affected by this result

than me and we shouldn't rush to judgment is on the damage or who to

blame and let's see if we can get a mandate to govern the UK tonight. I

couldn't deliver and I am sorry about that. Given it looks like

Theresa May... Actually, we are going to go to Theresa May's count.

Thank you for joining us. We will go to Maidenhead now and Theresa May's

count. I, the returning officer at the

election held on Thursday June the 8th 2017 do hereby give notice that

the number of votes cast for each candidate at the election is as

follows. UK Independence Party, 871. Independent, 16.

Lord Bucket Head, 249. Liberal Democrats, 6540.

The Official Monster Raving Loony Party, 119.

Theresa May, the Conservative Party candidate 37,718.

Green Party, 907. The number of ballot papers rejected was as

follows. Want of an official mark, zero. Voting for more than one

candidate, 19. Writing or mark by which the voter could be identified,

three. Unmarked or wholly void for uncertainty, 86. Rejected in part,

zero. Total rejected votes, 108. I hear by declare that... Theresa May,

the Conservative Party candidate has been duly elected. I'd like to ask

the successful candidate to come up and say a few words.

Thank you very much. First of all, may I on behalf of myself and all of

the candidates thank the returning officer and all her staff for the

hard work they've put in today in running this election here in the

Maidenhead constituency. Can I also thank the police who have had an

extra job here tonight in ensuring the security of this event. And

thank you to all those who have, once again, supported me as the

member of Parliament for Maidenhead. It is a huge honour and privilege to

be elected as the member of Parliament for this constituency.

And I pledge that I will continue to work for all my constituents as I

have done over the period of time that I have been your member of

Parliament. It is a huge honour, this is a wonderful constituency,

and I look forward to continuing to work with you, to see improvements,

further improvements, for the life of those living here in the

Maidenhead constituency. As we look more widely across the country,

returns are still coming in, we have yet to see the full picture

emerging, votes are still being counted. But at this time more than

anything else this country needs a period of stability. And if as the

indications have shown, that the Conservative Party has won the most

seats and probably the most votes, then it will be incumbent on us to

ensure we have that period of stability and that is exactly what

we will do. I'd like to thank all those across the country who have

voted for the Conservative Party today. As we round this campaign, we

set out to consider the issues that are the key priorities for the

British people. Getting the Brexit deal right, making sure we identify

and show how we can address the big challenges facing our country, doing

what is in the national interest. That is always what I have tried to

do in my time as member of Parliament. And my resolve to do

that is the same this morning as it always has been. As we look ahead

and we wait to see what the final was also will be, I know that, as I

say, the country needs a period of stability, and whatever the results

are, the Conservative Party will ensure that we fulfil our duty in

ensuring that stability so that we can all, as one country, go forward

together. Thank you. Theresa May making clear that she

won't be going anywhere if the country needs a period of stability.

And if they have the most seats in votes, it will be incumbent on them

to provide that stability, she says. Let's talk to the new member of

Parliament for Cardiff North, Anna McMorrin. Congratulations, you must

be very happy. And is this all down to Welsh Labour, Jeremy Corbyn, what

is the recipe of success here? You know, we fought a very positive,

energetic campaign in Cardiff North. So we had a great team, everybody

was out, we were speaking to people, knocking on doors, having a very

positive reaction. So I think it is a combination of Welsh Labour, who

were fantastic, but we work as one party across the UK. We just heard

the Prime Minister there. I'm sure you didn't hear her but she was

talking about the need for a period of stability now and the need for

the Conservatives to provide that. Within the Labour movement, is there

a sense of going towards territory of a Jeremy Corbyn administration or

is it too early to say? As I say, I have been here at the Cardiff count,

we've been focused on the result in Cardiff North and the positive

campaign result that we have seen here. For me, it is far too early to

say. When you were knocking on doors, what were the big issues? Was

at a Brexit collection for you? I think the Conservatives tried to

make it into that Brexit collection and it is important now we get the

best, most sensible deal on Brexit. What we absolutely must do is ensure

good, high quality public services, and money coming from Westminster to

Wales so we can fund those excellent public services. Who knows, it could

be Jeremy Corbyn leading those Brexit talk in 11 days and I'm sure

you'd welcome that. If it is Jeremy Corbyn leading it, it would be Kier

Starmer leading those talks. You are going to Parliament imminently, any

idea how that will work? I'm thrilled by the result, and thanks

to my great team... I am sorry to cut too short but we will go to

Cardiff West for the result. We can see Kevin Brennan there. They

are just coming to get the result there, getting the microphones

ready. SPEAKS WELSH.

I, the undersigned, being the acting returning officer at the election of

a member of Parliament for Cardiff West constituency, held on Thursday

eighth June 2017, hereby give notice that the number of votes recorded

for each candidate at the said election are as follows.

Kevin Brennan, Welsh Labour, 26,425 votes.

Alex Meredith, Liberal Democrats: 1214.

Matthew Smith, Welsh Conservative Party: 13 874.

I hereby declare... He has been the MPs and 2001. He keeps hold of that

seat in Cardiff West. He resigned from Jeremy Corbyn's front bench and

is a member of the Parliamentary rock group MP for, I don't know if

you've heard them but they're not bad.

Lots going on Ceredigion. And they are counting behind you, Serie A? --

Sarah? It's a full recount called by the Liberal Democrats. There have

been lots of votes for Labour and the Conservatives. A full recount

here at Ceredigion. The agents and candidates are pretty relaxed, they

are waiting for this process to go ahead. What is quite telling is the

crowd of people that have started to gather outside here in Ceredigion

including a former MP and AM and also Ben Lake's parents. Whether or

not that is an indication of confidence, that they will gain this

seat, we will have to wait and see. A full recount. Let's go to

Carmarthen West where they are about to declare. I think they are on the

stage. Just getting it already. Tracking the mics.

Election of member of Parliament for the Carmarthen West and South

Pembrokeshire. SPEAKS WELSH. I covered the acting returning

officer, declare the Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire constituency

on the eighth June 2017, the number of votes recorded for each candidate

is as follows. Alistair Cameron, Welsh Liberal Democrats: 956.

Phil Edwards, UK Independence Party: 905.

Simon Hart, Conservatives: 197 someone. Fixing the

. Marc Tierney, Labour, 16600 and 61.

Lack of official Mark: zero. Voting for more candidates are entitled to:

14. SPEAKS WELSH. Void for uncertainty: 44. Total: 65.

SPEAKS WELSH. I hereby declare that Simon Hart is elected the member of

Parliament for Carmarthenshire West and South Pembrokeshire. Not great

sound there I'm afraid but we did hear that Simon Hart held the seat.

He has represented since 2010. Born in Wolverhampton, very pro-hunting.

He is back to Parliament. We are hearing that Tim Farron has

held his seat, the leader of the Liberal Democrats. But I thought

recount in Hastings and Rye, the constituency of Amber Rudd. Plenty

to talk about with our politicians. First on the sofa, you're not

dosing, are you? How could we be, with all this going on -- you are

not dozing are you? The BBC has adjusted its forecast, so

Conservatives will be short of eight other majority at the moment. In

terms of the Welsh numbers, that we have seen over the last hour and

hour and a half, you are looking at the statistics, what trends are you

seen? I'm looking at number of votes rather than vote share, and I'm

seeing a pattern where the Labour Party has gone up five to seven

votes, -- five to 7000 votes. And Conservatives going up slightly

shorter, both were connecting with people prepared to vote for them.

They were confident. Now it looks like Conservatives were knocked out

because it wasn't the message they were getting. They didn't see it. It

has been done by squeezing absolutely everybody else. We might

be heading back to a situation of the 70s or 60s where the vote share

is split between two parties. Two party politics back in fashion?

Could well be. Interesting about the total tally. In Cardiff North, it

wasn't quite like that. A staggering 77% turnout. The Tory votes didn't

go up in Cardiff North. But it's an interesting seat. Because it

normally, or has always until now, in recent history, always gone the

way of the government. I do wonder, is this the night that Cardiff North

box that trend or do we have some more surprises in store? As the

final results come through in other parts of the UK. We will talk more

about that. In terms of smaller parties getting squeezed out, for

Plaid Cymru, whether this is a disappointing night for a successful

one depends on the result of the recount in Ceredigion which is

obviously very close. With your other target seats and this one in

particular, a disappointing results? If the Ceredigion recount comes our

way, we are heading that it is 150 that we should be able to win. It

would be a good night because I wouldn't vote count where Simon

Thomas last. I would have been mightily glad if we want that. I

think we potentially over predicted some of our seats. That is a lesson

we have to go back in. Having the intelligence on the ground, should

we focus on one or two instead of spreading ourselves too thinly where

we thought we were squat Doi Matt Brunt and Blaenau Gwent but we could

have -- stronger in Blaenau Gwent but we could have put our resources

in other places. If it is an Parliament, as someone said earlier

on, smaller parties have a part to play about how we can share feature

policies. I would be more excited to work with someone like Jeremy Corbyn

Van Theresa May, but that is all to play for now here for the rest of

the morning. From a Lib Dem perspective, what are your thoughts

so far of your party? I think that this election was too early for us.

We positioned ourselves clearly on the matter of the issue of Brexit.

The fact that we were wanting to give people another chance to have a

vote at the end of it. That meant that if you haven't started the

negotiations and talking about the issues, if you don't have the

results, it is difficult to say that it feels all right, it feels just

like it was yesterday. Therefore nothing has changed, this is not an

election that we want to give our support too. It doesn't seem to be

affecting our lives. It will change in the future, of course. The other

thing about the Back To The Future election, which has been very

presidential, one pillow fighting another pillar. And you have to put

telling a good build up the votes on one side or other. It means our

country has become more divided. People move more towards the left

and right, meaning that there is a big gap in our political system. It

is apparent here in Wales, as well. I think over time, as Brexit becomes

more apparent, as we see the results and the feature, we will see a

different sort of outburst. Is Tim Farron the right man to lead

that resurgence, do you think? Tim has rebuilt the party. We have more

than doubled our membership in the last 12 months, we have... Fought

hard in the election, rebuilt local parties which were devastated by the

2015 result, and by the kit we got by being in coalition. It was an

election that was too early for us and that process is to go on and

there is more rebuilding to be done. It was the wrong gamble

strategically to promise a second referendum and all those Remainers

will flock to the Lib Dem tent. That was a message we were going to carry

through until the end of the negotiations. But we haven't started

them. And this surprise election, of course, which for the Conservatives

has turned out to be a wrong decision, quite clearly, one which I

wonder what will be the Parliamentary situation when we

start to discuss Brexit? We will have in front of us this massive

amount of legislation and Parliament will be... Hold on for a second

because if we look at the screen, we can see the Prime Minister's

cavalcade returning from her account in Maidenhead, the Prime Minister as

expected holding her seat in Maidenhead, more than 30,000 votes

for her. As she heads back to Downing Street giving a statement

that stability would be important and the Conservatives, one assumes

under her leadership, she didn't specify, would be in a position to

provide that stability and that is what she intended to do. So, the

Prime Minister returning from the count. I think it is back to you,

Bethan. Interesting to see her speeding back

to Downing Street. If she were to resign, by the way, she'd be a very

short lived Prime Minister, even shorter, I think, than Andrew Bonar

Law, back in 1922. George Canning, I looked it up earlier. You can see

Nicola Sturgeon now, another leader not having a great evening. There we

go. The leader of the SNP. As you can see, Nicola Sturgeon has

now arrived at the count, followed by reporters, cameramen as well, as

you'd expect, and she will now be giving her reaction to what has been

a mixed night for the SNP, it is fair to say. A disappointing night.

They have suffered losses in Scotland, losing their leader in

Westminster, Angus Robertson, in the constituency of Moray where the

Conservatives were successful. Here in Glasgow we have had the results

of all seven Glasgow constituencies. The SNP had been confident of

winning all seven. In the event, they held onto six, losing one of

those to Labour. They've also had some reduced majority is another's

of the seats here, in one case, Glasgow South West, the SNP held on

but then edge oratory was cut from 9950 to just 60. That is a sign of

the way things have been going for the SNP here this evening. One

successful candidate here, one UNP, SNP MP, has said it has been a mixed

bag and a difficult night for the SNP. Labour have been celebrating

here. They have had gains, including in Glasgow. The Conservatives are

also buoyant, having ousted Angus Robertson. So, there will be

difficult questions for Nicola Sturgeon to answer. She goes to do

her interviews, she is in position with one of the broadcasters on the

balcony and she will be facing questions about where the party goes

from here and also about the independence referendum and how that

has overshadowed the campaign here in Scotland and also was she right

to make those calls for a second independence referendum.

And the fact that SNP supporters felt now is not the time, they

agreed with Theresa May, perhaps, that now is not the time to push for

leaving another union. I didn't quite catch that. I think what we

have seen in Scotland is that a lot of people have taken to Jeremy

Corbyn. They like his style of leadership, they like his

principles, his values, and they do see an alternative, and they've left

the SNP to vote for Labour, as one SNP member here told me earlier,

these Corbynites believe all these MPs are just like Jeremy Corbyn and

they are not, she says. They have been wooed by Jeremy Corbyn. The SNP

does share a lot of valleys with Jeremy Corbyn and we heard from the

SNP MSP earlier, and he said there are a lot of shared values and that

could in itself lead to the SMB coming to some sort of arrangement

with Labour if need be in the future. Thank you very much and we

will be back to you later in the morning. Let's have a look at the

tally in Scotland at the moment. If we look at that,...

Let us look at that one seat where Angus Robertson has lost his seat.

That is a big scalp and the Conservatives taking it, Douglas

Ross the new MP for Moray. The change since last time, the SNP

right down there. The Conservatives benefiting.

It is a swing from the SNP to the Conservatives of 14%. Interesting,

Laura. Yes. This is a difficult one because, don't forget what an

impregnable the SNP were coming from. Swept the board in the

election two years ago, with just three seats in the hands of their

opponents. I think everyone knew they were going to fall back in this

election but I think what they were hoping for is the twin challenge of

the Conservatives and Labour would allow the SNP to hang on to some of

these seats but they are losing some very significant players here. Angus

Robertson in particular has been the voice of anti-brexit-mac campaigning

for the SNP and has been Nicola Sturgeon's... Nicola Sturgeon has

said she needs to reflect on the idea of a referendum. Nick, I mean,

in terms of the SNP, will they now think, right, now is not the time,

let's park that one? Lets not talk about it, let's forget it or will

there be a revaluation of it? You quoted Nicola Sturgeon on that

reflection nine, people will read into that. The inevitable conclusion

to that is that there will be some kind of parking of this in whatever

way she does it. I know she has been doing more interviews, and in the

fullness of time... That is all we have to go on at the moment. The

Conservative gains we were expecting. It is the Labour gains

seem to have taken everyone by surprise. I tweeted earlier that

even from a Welsh perspective I felt hoodwinked by Welsh Labour because

they've been telling us they aren't so much trouble! Jeremy Corbyn is

innate confident mood, he has called for Theresa May to go. It's her

position tenable? If she doesn't have a majority, there will be

questions. It is difficult to see how Theresa May can cling on, it is

a matter of time for me. The point of the referendum was to add greater

weight to her mandate, personally and for the party, to negotiate what

is bound to be a stormy period of two years, and to be in this

position against someone who is regarded as a weak Labour leader,

not a strong one but a weak one. Quite a lot of the debate as well as

Brexit has been a vote about austerity. A year ago we were one of

the strongest growing in the G7 and we are now at the bottom of the G7

in terms of economic growth which doesn't match the strong and stable

message. When so many people particularly in Wales have had their

incomes frozen because they are public sector workers this could

partly be the reflecting and voting on austerity as much as they are

voting on Brexit. It'll be interesting to see the analysis. We

could have been talking about a different narrative. The idea was

Tory targets, so what happened? What went wrong for the Conservatives in

Wales? Let's ask our man with all the toys tonight.

The toys have been struggling to catch up as the results have been

coming in. We have been looking for patterns, what has been happening of

the 38 seats. The Conservative targets, we were talking about plays

is like Wrexham and Bridgend. Let's bring up the Tory targets that we've

been talking about over the last few weeks and during the night. These

were the targets, we were looking at Bridgend, Clwyd South, Wrexham. Now

I'll show you what has happened so far during the course of the night.

Labour has kept hold of all the target seats the Conservatives were

aiming to take from them and, look overhear, in fact when you're

talking about Cardiff North and others, laboured totally differently

than expected, they've been taking seats away from the Conservatives.

There has been an interesting pattern developing across the board

in Wales, especially in those Labour Conservative battles is when you're

looking at the share of the vote, it is very high for the Conservatives

and for the Labour Party. 50% so far across Wales, Labour has managed to

get. That is the highest level we have seen since 1997 for the Labour

Party. 34% of the vote for the Conservatives is very far from being

a bad night. That's their highest share of the vote in Wales since the

1930s. Across the board, the Conservatives have been increasing

their boat but Labour has been increasing their boat by a faster

rate than the Conservatives. Another interesting statistic, 50% for

Labour, 34% for the Conservatives, a combined total of 84% of voters

going for the two main parties. That is the highest total for the two

main parties since 1966. Back then, we didn't have Ukip or the greens.

What's been happening is the two main parties have been sucking up

all the votes from the other parties, really squeezing those

smaller parties out of contention in so many areas, even in the Plaid

Cymru strongholds. The boats going from Plaid Cymru, the smaller party,

up to the two larger parties. Here you have the difference between 2015

and 2017. The Conservatives, up 6%. On any other night, you'd be saying

well done, Conservatives. But Labour has done so much better, a 12%

increase so far for the Labour Party. 38 seats have declared.

It could have been so different. That is the pattern of elections

these days, we can't predict anything! It is an extraordinary

statistic, 84% domination. Vale of Clwyd, 94% the domination of the two

parties. We haven't seen that since the 60s. That 50% vote share in

Wales the highest it has been since 1997. The stats keep on coming here

with regard to the Labour performance. Let's just have a look

at some of them, the results. We haven't been able to get to all of

them so far. Cardiff South and Penarth, Stephen Doughty returns to

Parliament. If we look at the share of the vote.

The collapse in the Ukip boat once again. And the swing from

Conservative to Labour, a big one, six points 7%. Merthyr Tydfil, a

real Labour fortress here, Labour hold, of course, Gerald Jones

returns. Ukip once again crashing down. It is

a swing of 2.4% from the Conservatives to Labour.

A small swing to the Conservatives. Stephen Kinnock, we talked to him

earlier. He was returned safely. He is returning to Parliament. Big

majority. 68% of the fort. -- fort. A 19% increase. Not a big Jeremy

Corbyn supporter. He did not exactly endorse him. It will be interesting

to see how all these who were not keen on Jeremy Corbyn will be acting

in Parliament no. We should go back to the politicians. They are with

us. They are reading to go. Plenty of stamina. They have been

campaigning for weeks and also had a very busy day today, getting people

out. I will start with Scotland. What do you make of what is

happening with the SNP? I think it will be a disappointment to the SNP.

Losses were inevitable after winning virtually every seat last time. But

I still think they will be disappointed to lose the likes of

Alex Salmond and Angus Robertson. These are the experienced members of

the parliament. The knowledge would be very useful as we go into 2017.

Nicola Sturgeon saying she would reflect on the issue of the

independence referendum, which some people think of some SNP supporters

away. Her dishy reflect on that? In terms of this campaign, the late

intervention remained in people that independence was still a massive

issue just a couple of days before the election, that was seen as a

mistake. Whether or not there would be a leadership challenge, I cannot

see that happening, but there will be some salt searching. The

Conservative Party, how will they did in Scotland, as well as the rest

of the contrast with the United Kingdom. We have seen a real shift.

If the Conservatives picked up double figures in Scotland, that is

going to help them a great deal. We were talking about the national and

regional differences within the United Kingdom. What we sell in

Scotland was a very different and distinct Scottish campaign from the

Conservatives. In Wales, it was much more in England and Wales campaign.

I think that is a disadvantage in some respects here. I would like to

have seen much more of a Welsh campaign. It would've helped fill

leader had not on holiday? Teddy 's ears the leader. But any Welsh

contact, you said we should be campaigning more anywhere else

bases. I think there needs to be soul-searching from the Conservative

campaign on the nature of our campaigning and there we reorganise

ourselves. We need to make sure we optimise our impact on the ground. I

am gutted that we have lost three outstanding MPs in Wales. They were

terrific for the constituencies. The ad didn't want to see us going

backwards. I think we needed a more Wales focused campaign. If we had

done that, I do not think we would've seen great the results we

have seen. But our sheer of the voters still pretty remarkable.

Record-breaking for the last 100 years. You had to go in and that in

that debate because the leader was not there. A sticky wicket. Always

the experience like? That was the weight I had to take on that night.

Did you enjoy it? I am always happy to step into the breach when needed.

Maybe you can reflect a little on what is going on in different parts

of the United Kingdom. What do you see happening there? One thing that

looks consistent as the youth turnout. Absolutely. There has been

an unprecedented increase in the number of young people registering

to vote and getting actively involved. A seen a lot of young

activists in Cardiff. That has made an important difference. That has

been repeated across much of the United Kingdom. It shows how much

Jeremy Corbyn 's message is galvanising people. Talk a little

bit about the feel your of the Welsh Labour campaign as opposed to the

Labour campaign throughout the United Kingdom. Carwyn Jones very

much the focus of the campaign. To what extent does that feeding IIe

wader partum and the idea of labour upping the vote and taking seats

from other parties. I think that is a positive message to tell the

people about devil you should in the face of austerity. But I do not

think there needs to conflict with positive messages at the Party at

Westminster level has been putting forward. What we have seen as a

vindication of Jeremy Corbyn 's personal approach to politics. There

was an attempt to destabilise the Party and that was a big

miscalculation. The manifesto has been very popular. It is great to be

able to talk about Welsh achievements alongside that that

they should not be in conflict with each other. I think we need to focus

on the personality that is Jeremy Corbyn. I do not like that type of

campaigning. I think you need to take a much more positive vision. I

think it was too personal a campaign. It is not the sale of

campaign I am used to. It did not just focus on Jeremy Corbyn. It

began by focusing on Theresa May. She came across as very

presidential. Yes, I want to focus on local campaigns. That is why we

have seen success over the last 15 years, people battling with local

issues over health centres and schools. That is where we are

effective. On the presidential thing, in fact, the Conservatives,

probably to experience in Downing Street who may well be getting their

marching orders, who sat down and orchestrated that campaign. The

focus is on the people concerned. When you have a leader of which did

not want to engage with the public. It is the first time in living

memory that the Prime Minister has not appeared on our programme said

the today programme on Radio 4. If it was more about the issues rather

than the presidential part, then it was never going to work. I agree, if

you're going to run that sort of content, you have to pick yourself

out there and pick yourself up against Jeremy Corbyn. If you duck

that, it is going to be a disaster. Also, a judgment call. Going back to

Scotland. Three months ago, Theresa May made a statement about a second

referendum in Scotland. Teenage results seem to indicate she was

rates on Scotland, but that was probably not the team for the

general election. People are fed up of going to the ballot box. Did she

make a mistake of believing the hype? We have maybe trusted opinion

polls over the last few years, and did she look at the 20% lead think

she could make things more comfortable for herself with the

negotiations over Brexit coming up. I think it was going to be a very

frustrating process regardless of which side is in charge. Whatever

deal is going to be at the end of these negotiations through the UK

Parliament at the end of it. Some people within the Conservative Party

will be unhappy Brexit with, so it was understandable that she wanted

to hold the election. Lots of things are taken into account when these

decisions are made. We had earlier from the Liberal Democrats that she

had the feeling when she was talking to people on the doorstep that they

resented the selection, did not want that. Did you get a sense of that?

There was a sense of that. I think it was announced just coming up

after the local elections. Instead of people getting energised about

local issues, we were talking about Brexit and Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa

May. He need to make a judgment call as to when is an appropriate time.

We all work hard, regardless of which Party we represent and we need

time to campaign. We have Kevin, the MP for Cardiff West.

Congratulations. You must be extremely happy and very proud of

Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you very much. I am happy. It is quite emotional.

My campaign was launched by Rhodri Morgan, who passed away during the

course of the campaign. So I dedicate this to him. I am sure he

would be extremely proud of events. By do you think you are having the

success or did you predict it? At the start of the campaign, Cardiff

West was down as being a possible gain for the Conservatives. We took

them very seriously and campaigned extremely hard. One of the reasons

we have done so will has been the positive manifesto we had, the

positive ideas. I'd also, this vision of the heart Brexit under the

Conservatives and further austerity. People are looking for an

alternative. One alternative could be, according to the Shadow

Chancellor, he is seeing that potentially Labour could form a

minority administration. Is that feasible going for two Brexit

negotiations? Jeremy Corbyn at the helm. We do not know the final

results. If a majority government is not available, it should be up to

the Labour Party to try and form a government. The Conservatives are

incapable of forming a minority government. Whatever happens, going

forward with Brexit, we cannot go forward as business with usual. All

the talents of Parliament must be brought in to approach these terms.

The approach of Theresa May has been rejected. We appreciate you staying

till the bitter end to speak to others. Enjoy your victory.

Congratulations. What is going on there? One word you

don't want to hear at 4:15am is recount. We haven't heard that word

yet but what we have heard is a bundle flick. What does it mean?

They are flicking through the bundles to make sure the numbers the

agents have correspond to the numbers on the ballot papers. So,

not a recount as yet, we'll wait to see if that will happen but what

we've got at the moment is quite a few people going through those

bundles behind me. It should take another few minutes. What we can

read into that is that it is very close between the Conservative,

Stephen Crabb, and the Labour candidate, Philippa Thompson. It's

come a bit of a surprise we have come to this situation. Stephen

Crabb the majority of 5002 years ago. It is a late one in Priscilla

Pembrokeshire. A bundle flick is new for me as well, and we will see

whether it develops into a recount or if we have a result in the next

15 minutes or so. It is a new one for me, as they flick the bundles

they are definitely be counting in character gun. There has been a full

recount. If I look over my shoulder, that count has now finished. It is

difficult to say when to expect the result because the officers to my

right, you're left, are doing the sums right now. It was the Lib Dems

who called for the recount, apparently there was less than 150

votes between Mark Williams for the Liberal Democrats and Ben Lake for

Plaid Cymru. It appears the votes have been found in the Labour and

Conservative bundles as the recount was happening. How that will affect

the vote now we are not sure how whether it is apparent there is a

growing number of Ben Lake supporters outside this hall here,

including his parents, that number has swelled from a few to about

20-30. They are anticipating a result. What nobody wants to hear,

that word recount, whether that will happen all know, we will never know

and we'll have to wait. No flicking of bundles there but they are

flicking bundles elsewhere. We will keep across all of that. Let's take

a look at the picture in Wales. Just a reminder of the seats so far.

Plaid Cymru on three. Potentially getting Ceredigion as well, maybe.

The Lib Dems on zero at the moment, Ukip on zero and Greens on zero. The

big picture, then, across the UK, the Conservatives on 233, down ten.

Some Labour targets in Wales. There we go, Gower, they got that, Vale of

Clwyd as well, Cardiff North as well. Preseli Pembrokeshire, we are

waiting to hear. A quick look at the Conservative

targets, they are all red. The narrative of the evening and the

exit poll was pretty... I think old hold it has been a stunning night

from Welsh Labour's perspective. The two results we still have to come

are potentially significant. Stephen Crabb in Preseli Pembrokeshire, if

he loses then there is talk he could be just ahead... Would that be

personal issues, his personal troubles? What was in Playfair?

You'd have to say it is that tide that has swept through. All the

postmortems will be about the Welsh campaign. Alex Salmond has lost his

seat! That is confirmed. Two of the biggest hitters of the SNP out of

the picture, it is a bad night for them. Going back to Nick's point,

the Conservative vote has gone up in Wales. It is just the Labour vote

has also gone up. By almost double the Conservatives have got. That is

what is happening in seats like % Pembrokeshire. If you think about

the state of the parties, we have five party politics in the Assembly.

If the Lib Dems can't hang on Ceredigion, we go down to a 2-party

politics in Wales. That is significant. Ukip, 7ams in the

Assembly, not a sniff anywhere near Westminster. The Lib Dems could be

wiped off the electoral map for the first time in over a century in

Wales. These are serious changes. It is a serious point about the

Liberals. If Mark Williams can't get back in there. The most dangerous

place to be is between Mark Williams and the coffee. He is extremely

popular as an MP. He has had a lot of exposure because he has been the

leader of the party and been on platforms which hasn't worked in his

favour but bigger trends are in play here I think. It became about two

people, the Conservatives said this is going to be about Theresa May and

that speech at the beginning was about I, I, I, not my party. The

Labour Party followed that by putting Jeremy Corbyn up. It has

been that personal campaign, big guns so by Theresa May. It looks

like she isn't actually comes so well from that. We are getting

something. Alex Salmond is about to speak. Probably worth us taking that

if we can. Let's hear in the constituency of Gordon.

Can I thank the returning officer and his staff or the way they've

conducted they can. And my fellow candidates for the impeccable way

the constituency contest was conducted. Can I congratulate Colin

Clarke on his victory. Gordon is the most amazing and diverse

constituency in the whole of Scotland and I wish you well in

representing it. He said I have been 30 years as a parliamentarian in the

north-east of Scotland and that is true. It's been the privilege of my

life to do that. I am grateful for these times, for the activists of

the SNP who have made the many electoral success is possible,

particularly to my long-standing electoral agent, Stuart Pratt, who

guided me through nine elections successfully. I'm sorry, Stuart,

that we couldn't make it ten together.

APPLAUSE. I'd like to thank my wife, Moira,

and the extended family for their forbearance over these last 30

years. We have suffered some famous blows recently that frankly pulled

the world of politics into perspective. Without the support of

family members, none of us standing here could possibly conduct their

affairs. I'd like to lastly reflect on the situation across Scotland and

across the United Kingdom. I've lost ... The SNP have lost many great

Parliamentarians this evening and that is a great loss for us but

overall the SNP have won a majority of the seats in this country and a

majority Avi vote. Something I suspect the Prime

Minister would like to be able to claim in the early hours of this

morning but may not be able to do so.

APPLAUSE. Some things don't change. Over the

last 30 years, the Conservative Party... The SNP might well find

themselves in reduced numbers in the House of Commons but in a position

of a very substantial influence indeed. And I know that my

colleagues will seek to use that influence to keep the Conservative

Party from power and to build a progressive alliance to take this

country forward. And to avoid the calamity of hard Brexit. And,

lastly, a word to all from all political parties and a word

particular to my own campaign team. Just a phrase from an old Jacobite

song. Laugh false wigs in the midst of your glee you've not seen the

last of my bonnets and me. APPLAUSE.

Very go, Alex Salmond leaving the political stage after 30 years as a

parliamentarian. Here are the results. Colin Clark taking it for

the Conservatives. Who would have thought we'd be

talking about the demise of Alex Salmond tonight?

That is a swing of 20% to the Conservatives. Let's have a quick

look at another Welsh result. Montgomeryshire came in. A

well-known figure in the party in Wales returned with a majority of

9285 votes, Glyn Davies. A real two horse race there.

Everybody else flat-lining and it is a swing of 5.4% from the Lib Dems to

the Conservatives. So, that is Montgomeryshire. Glyn Davies, a big

figure, a big Mayite? As we've seen with those rural seats, we've seen

the big swing towards Labour but it couldn't really harm him in the end.

So it was pretty comfortable and we saw that with Chris Davies as well,

the kind of party that would have hurt him. Was he a big Mayite? I am

trying to recall what he was saying in terms of his support for her. He

was cautious. I recall a few interviews with him and he seemed

happy with the way things were going. The picture from a Welsh

perspective, what is the story in Wales? I think you can take your

pick, I suppose, from the Labour angle. For me, we see all those

potential Tory target seats being untouched. And the Conservatives not

even coming that close to taking them. There are two factors here. I

know we have two seats to go but there is the fact that the context

at a UK level was incredibly favourable for Labour in the last

two weeks of the campaign which allowed people who are wavering

about voting Conservative to come back to Labour. Secondly, the depth

and reach of the Labour Party in Wales historically is considerable.

They have a pretty formidable machine, they know where their vote

is, they appealed to the loyalty of people and in the last fortnight,

when it became an issue between a kind of disintegrating Conservative

campaign and a higher profile Jeremy Corbyn campaign with a good

manifesto behind it, people came back to Labour and new people voted

Labour. The latest on the BBC forecast from Professor John Curtice

is that he is now predicting the Conservatives will be eight seats

short of a majority. By the way, up in Scotland again, the leader of the

Conservatives, Ruth Davidson, saying independence referendum to is dead

in the water. It isn't hers to call, of course. It is difficult to see

how an argument can be constructed on it on this basis. Losing this

number of seats in this context, I think it will set out for a

generation, I'd say. It is difficult to see how Theresa May can continue

with those kinds of figures where she has lost the majority... We

looking at a resignation in the morning? I can't see anything else,

in all honesty. It would be a much greater surprise if we don't see

Theresa May on the streets outside Downing Street at some point early

tomorrow morning offering her a resignation. Let's talk to Hilary

Benn. Can you hear us? Good morning. How are things looking

for the Labour Party? Are you enjoying the red all? To see the

amount of seats we have gained is very heartening. But it is looking

like it could be the third election in a row of which we have been

unsuccessful in. A TV; this election six weeks ago, thinking she would

get a huge majority. She wanted the mandate for what she said was strong

leadership and the British public have declined. It is a very personal

rejection of Theresa May. Would you would you put down the success of

the Labour Party going to Jeremy Corbyn? I think there is no doubt

that his campaigning infused a great number of people. If you see the

number of young people which has come out to vote. I think the Labour

manifesto did the same. We took the seat here for there is a significant

student population, but we have not made the progress we wanted and

trying to win the general election. We will reflect on that. But the

thing though is to assemble a new Parliamentary Labour Party and

whatever Party comes out of this election result to haunt him for up

account because we want to fate and the values in the sense of hope that

we give people in this campaign. You are seeing it is maybe not the

success it has not been hoped for. You have not been a huge fan of

Jeremy Corbyn. Other questions over his leadership? Absolutely not. I

just said, I believe that lots of people were confused by his

campaign. He fought a relief spirited campaign. The games we are

seeing are doing to the effort he put in. But they will be pointing

out that we fought on a radical manifesto because we wanted to win

the election and as things stand, we will not be in a position to do

that. This is the third time we have lost under different readers and we

need to reflect on that. But gaining seats is a great boost for the Party

and given free of the opinion polls where, I think this will come as a

pleasant surprise to a lot of people and proves that Labour is moving

back up again. We have got to build a map and maintain the unity of folk

as we have seen during the general election campaign. Do you expect

Parliamentary colleagues to swing behind Jeremy Corbyn then? I think

there is little doubt that because we have gained seats that is what we

have got to see in Parliament. We have got the job to do. If TV May

stays as Prime Minister, as she cobbled together a beer majority

perhaps with the Democratic Unionist Party, it will be the job of Jeremy

Corbyn to hold the Conservative Party to account. This is not the

mandate the Prime Minister was looking for. European colleagues

will be wondering what on earth is going on. She is saying she is not

going to walk away, perimeter sleeve British industry. People depend on

these trade agreements. I think the Prime Minister has got a lot of hard

thinking to do. It remains to see whether colleagues will take the

decision that they want something else or someone else in charge. We

will look at some of the other results coming in. Returning once

again for the Labour Party. We can look in detail at the other

result we had earlier on in the evening. Plaid Cymru Before the

former leader of the Party, but that did not work. -- put forward.

Another recount coming. She was hoping not to have another.

Extremely close. I have had the quote from someone on the Plaid

Cymru, who says they are currently 103 ahead. Can people keep demanding

recounts? Within reason. I think this is probably a cheque no. We're

probably not too far off a result. It is a big result for Plaid Cymru.

They have taken such a battering in a lot of seats. It is also big for

the Liberal Democrats, because they will be wiped out in Wales of the do

not win this. They were talking about eight seats. This was not

really been targeted. In fairness, people sensed there was a

possibility a week ago. But no one was stopping about Plaid Cymru being

in the running. They have managed to get support from Tory supporting

voters, but the harsh remain message may have split the vote. That is

maybe why some people think that Plaid Cymru have done well. There

maybe some of the picture, part of the melting pot. There could be a

decision-making factor as well. But this could be very important for

Plaid Cymru, because they could be facing another election free of the

Lucy Santi case this year of the vote. Could the Seve Leanne Wood? It

is problematic. This is recount number what? The second recount, so

the third count of the votes. The staff are looking very cheerful. I

may be seeing that rather sarcastically. The bundles are being

redistributed and it will be taken again. It took about one hour last

time. Maybe slightly quicker this time. Apparently, some votes for the

Liberal Democrats had disappeared in the Labour and Conservative voters.

Apparently, Plaid Cymru no have a lead of just about 100 votes and it

is the Liberal Democrats who have called for this recount. We can go

to Scotland. Everyone has gone home except our man. We're very proud of

you. What a story in Scotland. That is always the way! I must thank the

team I have here. I am not alone. I have the strong and supportive team

keeping me going. Although they have failed to find me any cups of tea.

It has been an interesting night. Nicola Sturgeon was here earlier.

She has left. She did a round of interviews and posed for

photographs. Six SNP MPs have been re-elected for Glasgow, they have

lost one. But they have had significant losses. Two names jump

out. Angus Robertson, the Party leader in Westminster, he lost his

seat to the Conservatives, and Alex Salmond, the former leader of the

Party. He also lost to the Conservative Party. Nicola Sturgeon

was asked questions about Alex Salmond. She said she was bitterly

disappointed. She said Alex Salmond had been her mentor and been an

outstanding member of the Scottish parliament and an outstanding member

of Parliament in Westminster. The positive spin she is putting on a

bruising made for the SNP is that they are still the victors of the

election in Scotland. She says it has turned out to be a disaster for

Theresa May. She conceded there had been disappointing losses for her

Party. The SNP are on 53, the Conservatives on 11. This will be

the first time they have reached double figures since 1997 when they

were completely wiped out in Scotland that they have represented

more than one seat in Scotland. A successful night for them the side

of the border. Labour on seven seats. Some progress, given that the

only one heading into the election. See for the Liberal Democrats. Still

more results to come. -- three. Thank you very much. One result for

the Conservatives came in for all your work talking. They are no one

you love and in Scotland. Thank you very much for joining us. What is

happened to Ukip tonight? Questions for Ukip. Questions for the leader,

Paul Nuttall. There was no great expectation that the woodwind any

seats, but they have done quite well in elections here in recent years.

The Assembly elections. 14% of the vote in the general election two

years ago. Effectively the third largest Party, in terms of the sheer

of the vote. But no, just 2%. What has gone wrong? Goodbye to the

result two years ago. What we remember is that in many seats

across the South of the country, they came in second place. We can

look at the most extraordinary result.

That was a strong showing for Ukip and the second part of their let's

fast forward to this election, barely enough votes. Just showing

you the results. 15% down on where they were last time. The reason for

that, and we are seeing it time and time again, the two parties, Labour

and Conservatives up, which is squeezing the three smaller parties,

Plaid Cymru, Liberal Democrats and Ukip finding very similar patterns,

people are not seeing any purpose to them now that we have the Brexit

vote. My panel very much looking at that and how things have changed,

particularly the Ukip vote. David Rowlands is with me. That used to be

7000 votes, did you really think you'd get the hammering you've had

to might? I think truth fairly we are the victim of our own success,

as such. Last year we had a stunning success in getting the Brexit vote

against all odds. And, primarily, it was the UK Independence Party that

drove that and got that vote so we are coming off some stunning

successes so one can expect that people... And people are now

thinking and the media are part of this, of course, saying we are no

longer necessary. During the campaign when people put that to

you, why do we need Ukip because you've got the referendum vote, you

said we are a party to stay but it doesn't look like voters are

thinking that. Ever since I've been in the party, for 20 years, people

have been writing us off but we are still here. And it will take us time

to show that we have different policies to the other parties. What

we have to watch now is exactly what happens with Brexit and if it isn't

the Brexit people right across Wales voted for, don't forget it wasn't

just 4%, it was 60-40. A lot of those people have gone towards

Labour. Absolutely. So they were not wanting Mrs May's Brexit. Jeremy

Corbyn has run a very clever campaign. And we are part of the

victims of that but, quite frankly we've been a party that started

right at the top of the ladder with 24 MEPs and we obviously gained 7ams

at the last Assembly elections but we've never had that grassroots

party that other parties have. Now we have to build on that. Quite

frankly, I see within our own constituencies, I see that we are

building that group of four voters. Your party, Plaid Cymru, has been

very much squeezed by this, is it Jeremy or to reason debate, and the

way they were held up by their parties. How damaging is that the

long-term morale, do you think or to you except it's what happened this

time? It has been a presidential style campaign and Plaid Cymru has

always tried to make sure that our policies are put forward and it is

difficult for us because we are the smaller party and we are squeezed.

Look at the Scottish example, the SNP still doing very well but some

big losses and for us to hold our three seats and we are also hopeful

for Ceredigion, it is a success for us. They are recounting, aren't

they? Darren Millar, it is Theresa May that started off that

presidential type of campaign. It was I am doing this, I, I, I. Do you

think that was a big mistake on the part of your party? I'd have liked

to have seen a lot more focus, particular in Wales on a distinctive

Welsh campaign and I think that we veered too much into personality

politics... David Cameron was about the Conservatives not, I, David. And

our success in Wales has been built on local campaigning with local

issues about positive messages about what we do differently but we

weren't able to get that message across in this campaign. Do you

think in Wales Theresa May wasn't liked by traditional Conservative

voters? I don't think so because we've seen record numbers of

constituency votes. So it isn't that people don't like Theresa May. I

think there has been a console and of the left, if you like, behind the

Labour Party and behind Jeremy Corbyn which is why Plaid Cymru has

been squeezed and the Lib Dems as well. Our share of the vote has gone

up in many of these constituencies to the best results we have had

since the 1920s. In the UK we don't go for share of the boat but we go

for seats. We saw Theresa May at her account very strong, very stable

again. We then saw a cavalcade going to London by what do you think is on

her mind? Would you say she'd be in that position in 48 hours' time?

Look, to reason is a strong leader but she will reflect on these

results, the dust will have to settle, they are not all in... In

this day and age, isn't a strong leader a collegiate leader not

someone who puts their own name on the whole thing? She's won this

election, we are still the biggest party in the UK by a long shot.

Jeremy Corbyn has come second. He has beaten the very poor

expectations that many people had of him at the start of the campaign so

we have won this election. The fact is by the look of the numbers we

won't quite have sufficient Conservatives to have an outright

majority. That is cause for concern for me and I want to see how the

dust settles over the next few hours. We have seen quite a few

successful Labour MPs smiling from the television but, actually, it is

quite a pickle for the Labour Party in Wales to sort out in terms of do

we love Jeremy not? I don't think so. You use the word collegiate and

it has been a collegiate effort by Welsh Labour, UK Labour working

together. Just the way we handle... Working together? His photograph

wasn't on any of the leaflets. We fought a Welsh campaign and quite

right, too. You didn't have Welsh manifesto, we did and it has paid

dividends. The campaign was very different, we did have a Welsh

manifesto. Two years ago, did Ed Miliband's photo end up on the

pamphlets of Welsh Labour? I don't think they did. I also think, and

you're talking about a period of reflection for Theresa May, I think

there is not too much reflection needed. They are still the biggest

party but when a Prime Minister calls and unnecessary general

election, it was a very cynical and arrogant move, I think, and says

give me the 90 seat majority I need in order to force through a hard

Brexit, you can't possibly recover from this. Cynical and arrogant?

Nothing cynical and arrogant about it. We were in a situation where it

was very clear... I'm going to stop you there because we will go to

Hastings. Amber Rudd, let's see what the result is.

Liberal Democrat, 1885. Ukip, 1479. Amber Rudd, the Conservative Party

candidate, 25668. Independent, 412. The total number of ballot papers

rejected was 97, the turnout was 70%. Therefore I give public notice

that Amber Rudd is duly elected as a member of Parliament for the

Hastings and dry constituency. -- Hastings and ride.

That will be a great relief for her. It was very close there. She just

got it, I think. Amber Rudd re-elected. Is she going back to

Theresa May's front bench? Who knows if Theresa May will have a front

bench. Is she a contender for the leadership if Theresa May resigns?

What about her performance in the leadership debates? I think she did

a decent job, in all fairness. It is always hard when you are deputising

effectively for the bona fides leader. But I think Amber Rudd is

somebody who has the potential to be in the running for the Conservative

Party, should Theresa May resign and we do know that is the case but it

looks increasingly likely, in my view. It is hard to see her

surviving. She stood in that debate shortly after her father died, which

got a lot of sympathy and attention. We must speak to Chuka Umunna, who

has been reselected as the MP for his constituency. Is this a great

coup for Jeremy Corbyn? I think it is a great night for the leader, I

think it is a great night for the whole party. Of course, the big

goal, the Labour Party was setup to pursue, wasn't just to represent the

workers, it was to ensure that we get into government to make our

values real. We don't know what is going to happen over the next few

days on that front but that must be always our goal. We fought the

superior campaign, it was hopeful, optimistic, energetic, Jeremy

campaigns, but amongst the people in a way Theresa May didn't. Terrible

manifesto, their dementia tax, it was a nasty and negative campaign

against a hopeful campaign. And we have now seen the results and people

have cast their verdict on that. When you go back to Parliament next

week, can Jeremy Corbyn feel that all his people, like you, are

absolutely within? I think we've come out of this general election

much more united than when we went into it. An increased vote share and

more MPs is a good achievement. As I said, a big step forward. You will

definitely see him commanding the confidence of Parliamentary Labour

Party, no doubt. Would you like to see him leading the Brexit

negotiations because John McDonnell has suggested a minority Labour

administration potentially. Would you be Constable with him going in

to take on Europe? Yes. I always believe that Labour government is

better than a Conservative government, minority or majority. I

am absolutely clear about that. Not a huge endorsement. Don't you think

you'd be excellent? Aren't there any words that flow from a Labour

colleague? Absolutely. Let's be absolutely clear, it wouldn't just

be Jeremy, it would be John, it would be the entire Labour team,

including Kier. The team and its captain will do a far better job

than a Tory one because we don't want to pursue an extreme, job

destroying Brexit. I am absolutely clear that Jeremy and the team are

the ones that can do that for this country. Do you feel Theresa May has

to go now? Well, I think that is a question for the Conservative Party

but there is no doubt about it. There wasn't a great clamour for her

to call this general election. She called it for opportunistic reasons

and has been exposed, and it has been a monstrous disaster for hire.

Who knows what will happen to her and the question of who leave the

Conservative Party is an issue for them not to me but I honestly think

she comes out of this general election in a much weaker position

than she went into it and if you look at the Brexit negotiations, is

it in our national interest to have such a diminished figure leading the

negotiations? I'm not social. Thank you for staying with us, they are

clearing up behind you so I will let you go. Thank you very much and

congratulations once again. Here in Wales we are still waiting for

Ceredigion and Preseli Pembrokeshire so we will bring users as soon as we

can. Just to let you know, though, it is coming up to 5am. If you are

still listening on BBC Radio Wales, thank you for your company or night.

It is time for me to hand over to good morning Wales and Felicity and

Laura have made a dash for the radio studio where they join Lee for a

very strong coffee and continuing coverage of election 2017. So,

that's it, we say farewell to our radio listeners. It is just you and

me here, Nick. I'll be here with you right to the bitter end. So, two

results still to come in. Preseli Pembrokeshire, where it is really

interesting here, the future of Stephen Crabb, the fourth

Conservative Secretary and this intriguing battle in Ceredigion,

where it is neck and neck with the third recount? The third count, two

recounts between the Lib Dems and Plaid Cymru. Huge amounts resting on

it for both parties. If Mark Williams fails to retained that

seat, then it will be Wales without a liberal Democrat MP for the first

time in over 150 years. and on in that interview, we just

saw the Home Secretary just squeezing in. She would be viewed as

a possible leadership contenders should Theresa May decide to step

down. Will that happen? You look at the reasons why the general election

was caused, it was specifically to increase the size of the

conservative majority to go with Brexit. We can look at Dianne Abbot.

She made them emotional speech. She has not been well for the last few

days. I thank the returning officer and staff and the police. In times

of great importance in the community, we relied on our

dedicated public servants working. I also want to thank my agent, Barry

Gray, I could not have found the more dedicated than brilliant

person. She has taken me to my biggest majority of. I would also

like to thank all the volunteers from my constituency who worked so

hard and have also been working hard in other important seats tonight and

contributing to what I think will be an impressive Labour result in

London and in the country as a whole. The Conservative Party fought

campaign characterised by the politics of personal destruction.

Yet, the British people have seen past that and in Hackney, they have

supported our labour positive promises of a positive campaign

addressing the issues which concern people here in Hackney. Whether it

is the NHS, the housing crisis, the benefits crisis. We fought a

positive campaign here in Hackney and we have been vindicated. The

said that if Labour fought this general election on a progressive

manifesto, we would be swept away by a Conservative landslide. The said

if we fought this general election under the leadership of Jeremy

Corbyn, we would be annihilated. But I am proud to say even at this

point, we have seen how the British people of all ages, of all classes,

creeds and colours, have rallied to a positive message and rallied to

the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you very much. And emotional

acceptance speech from Dianne Abbot, who had been ill the last few days

and had a difficult campaign at times. Very emotional and happy in

that acceptance speech. We will show you the result in fool from

Monmouth. We have actually gone straight to the sheer of the vote

for David Davis. 53%. In our merry-go-round of professors,

George is no back. I was the picture changed? It is five o'clock in the

morning. I want to make a fantastic analytical point. One of the last

things the conservative government did was bring in English votes for

English laws. What is is intended to do was to ensure there is a majority

of English MPs from any MPs for legislation affecting England. We

have seen that Conservative gains are happening in Scotland. They have

lost ground in Wales. Everybody is talking about this kind of majority,

but actually, it may well be that the majority to govern in England

may actually will be higher than people are envisaging, because

nobody is taking into account the government of England in all this!

It is archaic, but we are in territory where it is going to be so

Tate is second election looks increasingly inevitable. That is

just one aspect of it. That gasp. We can do it. Forgive me, I do not know

how much attention you have given to Northern Ireland. It has been a

great night for the Democratic Unionist Party. Sinn Fein have also

done very well. What we have is a potential block of allies for the

Conservatives. We can look at the figures from the. The Democratic

Unionist Party on ten. Sinn Fein on seven. SDLP down three. You're

saying that this could be some deal cooked up between the Conservatives

and the Democratic Unionist Party? They have social views that most

people in the Conservative Party may find a boring. Traditionally, if you

recall the immediate aftermath of the Brexit vote. There was that

letter from Arlene Foster and Martin McGuinness saying they wanted

Northern Ireland to continue basically it with it. The Democratic

Unionist Party are not going to want to do a deal with Jeremy Corbyn

because of his past support for the IRA in the eyes. As for the Brexit

heart, I think the Democratic Unionist Party would be a real fly

in the ointment over. We to the SNP? They have said they are not looking

to go into any sort of formal coalition. They have said they would

support a progressive government alliance against the Conservatives.

I am sure Plaid Cymru, in the 1970s, the traded the votes for all sorts

of things which would benefit Wales. I think, given the nature of the

Liberal Democrats position on Brexit, they are far more likely to

talk to Labour boat European issues rather than the Conservative Party

Preseli Pembrokeshire. We finally have it.

I been the returning officer to clear that the votes cast for the

constituency are as follows. Party, 18302. Bob Philip, Welsh

Liberal Democrats, 1106. The New Society of Worth, 106. Chris

Overton, independent, 120 name. Philip Thompson, 17908. Owen

Williams, Plaid Cymru, 2725. The number of ballot papers

spoiled when having no official, zero. Nominating more candidates

than entitled to, 30. Leaving a mark on which the voter could be

identified, zero. Total number of spoiled ballot

papers 59. SPEAKS WELSH. I hereby declare that

the head Steve Intel should serve the constituency. The bundle for

opinion we have the boat earlier. Stephen Tramp re-elected. -- Crabb.

There will be a relief. That was not supposed to happen. That was not the

planned winter days a called the selection. He got away with it by

the skin of his teeth. I never heard anyone mention Preseli

Pembrokeshire. I didn't. What is the definition of a long night? This is

it. Stephen Crabb is clinging on. It is a couple of hundred in the end.

The squeeze on Plaid Cymru wasn't enough. A number of very nervous

Welsh Conservative politicians. The big beasts of the party in Wales.

They were clinging on. Other than Craig Williams, they've lost three

seats and the others have survived, just about, with a close shave for

many of them. How different from that first bowl where there was talk

of this tsunami of blue sweeping away... It has been a trend for the

Pars number of elections now, Conservative gains in Wales. This

must be the first time since... Help me out, since the Tories have gone

backwards in the general election in Wales. Five in the morning I'm going

to struggle but, I mean, we are in a position where the Conservatives,

the contrast between Wales and Scotland is like night and day for

the Conservatives. They had an excellent evening in Scotland. Is

that down to Theresa May? Ruth Davidson is taking a lot of the

credit for it. She is very clearly the leader in Scotland. We don't

know who the leader is in Wales. They had such a falling out they had

to bring a third person to be on the debate because they couldn't agree

with each other! Ruth Davidson is head and shoulders above anybody

else in Scotland, that isn't the case in Wales. Ruth Davidson is a

very popular figure in Scotland. Again, no Conservative in Wales can

compare with that level of popularity. On that, you mentioned

Darren Miller, who stood in for the debates valiantly, let's get some

reaction from here. Darren Miller, you haven't got a

good strong leader in Wales in the way Scotland has. We do have a

strong leader. If you look at this result... Really? You are the leader

at the debate. If you look at this debate, we've gone up in terms of

our share of the vote, more votes in these constituencies. The issue here

is the fact there has been a very poor campaign from Plaid Cymru and

the Lib Dems and the bird has shifted behind the Labour Party's

vote, whose share has gone up. Let's put these results into context. If

we knocked on doors and said who is the leader of the Conservative Party

in Wales, people would get it right? I think... The leader of the

Conservative Party in Wales is Theresa May. That is what our

constitution says. That isn't how it is played in Scotland, is it? No, it

isn't... And Ruth Davidson has a great following. What we've got to

do is reflect on this result, look at the way we organise our party in

Wales and also reflect on the campaign because I don't think it

was distinctive enough in terms of having a Welsh platform. When a

political party says reflects on the result, it often means change the

leader. No, no, the way we presented ourselves in Wales. We didn't have a

distinctive Welsh campaign. There was a distinctive Scottish campaign

and a distinctive England campaign which doesn't work in the same way

as having a Welsh campaign. We did it in 2015. Do you agree with that,

that that was their loss in Wales or was there something else going on? I

think we have to look at this as part of a wider picture. Politics

has been totally unpredictable for several years now and this result is

in line with other results, like in America. Voters reject the

establishment and give us results we're not expecting. That's why I

think Jeremy Corbyn has had such a great vote and why Theresa May

started off strong that hasn't delivered in the end. Rejecting the

establishment was voting Brexit, interpreted in different ways.

Antiestablishment has been but Jeremy Corbyn, has it? Yes, and in

Scotland to vote against the SNP. They would have been seen as the

alternative in Scotland but they've been in government for ten years and

they did deliver that massive block of MPs last time around. URL

counsellor. It was said early on oh dear Jeremy Corbyn will scare Labour

voters in the traditional valleys communities. On the ground in your

area, do they love him or hate him? I met Labour voters who loved him

and I met Labour voters who didn't. More importantly, I think there were

lots of people who hadn't voted before or hadn't voted for a number

of years who are motivated by Jeremy, and we talk about the youth

vote that we haven't analysed yet. Perhaps the data isn't there about

the youth vote and the importance of it. But a lot of people were

motivated I Jeremy. I'd take this issue of over -- over

personalisation in this election. Theresa May wanted to make it about

her and the media I think the print media assisted that and painted this

as a sort of good versus evil, in the most ridiculous fashion, really.

And I think a lot of people have seen through that. Genuinely, the

policies of the Labour Party have been welcomed by a large number of

people and even my colleagues sitting next to me from Ukip, who I

must feel terribly sorry for this evening, he agrees with me a large

number of the Labour Party's policies for how they want to take

this country actually worked well with our people. You've worked at

the top of Welsh Labour and you must admit that many of the words within

Welsh Labour was that he was far too left wing. It was the hard left. No,

I think around his right. People either really liked him or didn't

like him. He wasn't the best performer in the House of Commons

but when he got out around the country, the huge numbers of people

that came out to see him, quite extraordinary and we haven't seen

stuff like that for a long time. Conversely, Theresa May went out...

She didn't, really, she hid. Just picking up on the younger voters,

the one thing he did for this campaign was energise younger voters

to vote. We saw that massive surge from registration in the latter

weeks of the campaign. We don't know how they voted, though. We can be

pretty sure. That's one of the reasons we weren't expecting such an

exceptional night for us because you can't be sure just because people

have registered that they will vote. I think it shows large numbers of

people who don't normally go out to vote did, particularly youngsters,

as well as picking up the Ukip vote. Would you accept your party doesn't

connect well with people under 24? I don't think so but what I do agree

with is that the whole campaign was focused far too much on two

individual personalities, and I don't think that that enabled us to

get our message across about some of the other exciting things in our

manifesto. Like what? Like the ?10 billion of cuts? There was plenty of

policies in our manifesto. When you analyse individual personalities,

and I hold my hands up, it was a negative campaign. Wasn't it also,

though, a boat about austerity and whether austerity was working or

not? And the numbers didn't support you? People vote for all sorts of

complex reasons. The fact that younger people did appear to be

coming out much more so than in previous general elections has

influenced the result. I take my hat off to Jeremy Corbyn. He did get

out, he engaged and seem to motivate people who hadn't voted before. He

gave them a policy platform they wanted to vote for rather than

trying to focus it on austerity and Brexit. That was a fatal mistake.

She tried to make it a one issue election and it was never going to

be just that. Let's see where that leaves Plaid Cymru. We've been the

antiestablishment vote as well at various times. Do you feel that is

what you are losing now, certainly in a Westminster context? This, very

different in Wales. Speaking to Plaid Cymru supporters, they were

voting tactically. That message of the personality politics did

resonate and people did see it and use their vote tactically to support

the anti-Tory or anti Labour MP. With these numbers, the three MPs

we've got and hopefully we are still waiting for Ceredigion, with the

numbers we're looking to have by the morning, those three MPs from wide

Cymru will be quite significant and quite powerful potentially in any

arrangement that can happen. Said aid work closely with Jeremy Corbyn?

I think MPs from Plaid Cymru will do the best to use their leveraged to

get the best possible deal for Wales. We've got to wait and see how

it pans out. Sounds like they would work with Jeremy Corbyn. But they

were support a Conservative government? With the numbers as they

are, they are a strong voice, they will get the best possible deal, as

we have done in previous elections. That is our duty to do that as Plaid

Cymru. Darren Millar, your party have the most seats. A deal with the

DUP? I didn't know what is going to emerge. I think the dust will

settle. I think discussions will then, obviously, begin. Let's be

under no illusions, the party with the biggest number of seeds is the

Conservative Party. We have, I think, a mandate to try to form a

sufficient number of MPs, bring enough people together so we can

form a working government with a majority. How do you think the

European commission is during this tonight? I've no idea, I'm sure

they're tuning in with interest. The negotiations in ten days' time will

be interesting. 11 days or ten days from today. I'm sure many of them

are rubbing their hands in glee. I don't think it is a bad thing,

actually, that we have a situation where all parts of the House of

Commons will have to be listened to during a negotiation process to get

the right deal. She could've done that two months ago, frankly! I

think that might play into our hands in terms of getting something that

can be cross-party and receive support across the board. I don't

think we need a second referendum or anything like that which has been

proposed by the Lib Dems. It is going to be very interesting. He

will start negotiations on how much strength will they have? And then

there is the question of Northern Ireland. The other 18 seats, those

are the seats in Northern Ireland and we will need some resolution

there if we are going to have any sort of stability and move into

uncharted territory that is the European negotiations. The next ten

days will be as interesting as the last few hours have been.

Just draw your attention to what has been on the screen, Professor John

Curtice is now predicting a hung parliament is likely. 616 seats

declared, 34 to go. The Conservatives at the moment eight

short of a majority. As we heard with the panel, we were discussing

the future of Plaid Cymru. What happened to them in the selection?

We are all waiting for Ceredigion. What I'd like to do is to show you

why I think it again is so important for Plaid Cymru and for its leader

Leanne Wood. Let's have a look at how Plaid Cymru have performed so

far. Not a great night for them in their target seats. Number one

target, Ynys Mon, where they were pushed back into third, Labour

increasing their majority. In Anarfon, their majority cut down to

92. Another target seat was Rhondda. A 9% swing from Plaid Cymru to

Labour, increasing their majority. Let's have a look at how tonight has

panned out in a historic setting for Plaid Cymru. Their election

elections going back over the last few years. The high water mark, when

they got over 15% of the vote in 2001, winning four MPs. Since 2005,

they've been stuck, in a rut, on three MPs and not getting above that

15% of the boat. What happen this evening? Not great news in terms of

share of the vote and in terms of trying to grow the share of the

vote. Very high results for Labour and Conservatives, Plaid Cymru down

to 10% of the vote, their lowest share since 1997. At least back then

there were four members of Parliament which is important. Look

at the share of the bed. They are down from where they were two years

ago at the moment with Ceredigion to go. Where you have a situation where

you are not gaining seats in terms of your target seats, you are losing

votes where you are already strong, nationwide, your vote is going

backwards and you are stagnating in terms of sticking on three MPs, all

of a sudden, you see why Ceredigion is important. We are hearing good

things from Plaid Cymru there but there will be a lot of fingernails

being bitten there. Hopefully result from Ceredigion

shortly. It is coming up to 5:30am. We are just settling in here,

actually, but there we go. A round-up of the news now.

Morning. It has been strongly for the Labour Party in Wales. The 40

seats have been the clear. This is how things stand at the moment. Only

one seat left to declare. Ceredigion currently in the recount.