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The Greek Prime Minister sees political support bleed away. He's

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in the middle of an emergency Cabinet meeting. Last week, a

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Europe double act thought they'd saved the day. Now, it's no longer

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Greece but the eurozone they Welcome to GMT. I'm George Alagiah.

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Also in the programme: from the 20th richest to the most

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unfortunate, Bill Gates makes the case for development funding.

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The case that's lifted the lid on corruption in top level cricket.

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Three Pakistani cricketers and an agent jailed in London for their

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It's midday here in London. 8pm in Hong Kong. 1pm in the southern

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French resort of Cannes, where the G20 summit has been all but

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eclipsed by events elsewhere. Notably, the Greek capital, Athens.

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The Greek Cabinet has been in emergency session. Prime Minister

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George Papandreou is watching his political support ebb away. He was

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due to meet the Greek President after the session. The uncertainty

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in Athens spells danger for the eurozone as a whole. So, the G20

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summit that was supposed to show a united front in the face of a

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global financial crisis, finds itself in fire fighting mode. And

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it's not at all clear that they are succeeding. We'll be hearing from

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Cannes in a few moments. First, joining me from Athens is

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Nicolas Sarkozy arriving at the summit in Cannes, appearing to bear

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the weight of the crisis hanging over the global gathering with

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relative ease. Eventually, his expression giving away the scale of

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the task ahead of him and fellow leaders. Behind the welcome, the

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leader of the world's biggest economy, recognition of hopes of

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rescuing global recovery. The most important aspect of our

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task over the next two days is to resolve the financial crisis here

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in Europe. Nicolas Sarkozy has shown extraordinary leadership on

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this issue. I agree with him that the EU has made some important

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steps towards a comprehensive solution, and that would not have

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happened without his leadership. But here at the G20 we will have to

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flesh out more details about how the plan will be fully and

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decisively implemented. A wish to pay tribute to the United States

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for understanding about all the issues will be discussing, in

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particular, the issue of the Greek crisis, the difficulty the euro is

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facing, the need to be hand in glove with the United States.

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the deepening Greek drama, now a new twist from the Greek Finance

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Minister. The country's position within the euro area, he said,

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In Greece, much exasperation over the way the crisis is unfolding

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since the Prime Minister made his shock announcement he would hold a

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referendum on the Greek bail out deal. This is a disaster for our

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country, this man says, all of Europe has the euro, why should we

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go back to the drachma? Euro? We have become accustomed to it, says

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this man. What is this? In the latest and most critical

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development, the expectation in Athens is George Papandreou will go

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to the President imminently saying he is standing down and asking that

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a coalition deformed. The question then is how the deepening drama in

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Athens will influence events in the eurozone and in Cannes.

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George Papandreou has been discussing his options with some of

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his colleagues in Cabinet, many of whom do not support the referendum

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plans. Our correspondent says George Papandreou is expected to

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meet the President in the next half hour. Sources inside the Cabinet

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are suggesting George Papandreou oak well offered to resign and form

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a coalition government, a new government of national unity, and

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he will propose Lucas Papdemos would head that coalition. Lucas

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Papdemos is a former governor of the National Bank of Greece, deputy

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at the European Central Bank. The aim would be foray coalition

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government to vote through the bail out deal agreed in Brussels last

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week, and then call early elections. Greece has been thrown into an

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intense period of political instability to add to its financial

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predicament. Tanya Beckett is at the summit in

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Cannes. In many ways, Nicolas Sarkozy might as well tear up

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whatever agenda he has and start again. It is really about Greece.

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Yes, it is, very difficult to put an agenda together or adjust an

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agenda went for events are moving so fast. I guess that he would be

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very happy now to see that there might be a little bit more

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uncertainty -- certainty, because if a national unity government

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would stick to the bear that which has been put on the table, at least

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that would suggest there is some prospect of a bit more certainty in

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the markets and that would stop contagion spreading through the

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resign -- the eurozone. Let us make no mistake, we can talk about this

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being to do with the eurozone, but the Chinese other, America, they

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all have a stake in making sure that this crisis does not spread?

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Yes, they do. In the case of China, its exports a great deal to the

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eurozone and would not want to see a loss of economic power in the

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eurozone because that would affect China's economic growth. By the

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same token, they are very unwilling to invest in solving this crisis,

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put money on the table, when they really do not know what It is a are

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investing in. The point at which we were discussing the possibility of

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Greece leaving the eurozone, we are not talking about 50 sent but a

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100% right down of Greek debt. Greek coffers would not extend to

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covering foreign exchange risk, with a jack man depreciating. You

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can assume -- with the drachma. Fresh elections could occur in

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Greece within weeks. Let us go back to Athens now where

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we are joint by the Greek joint President of the British Hellenic

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Chamber of Commerce. Thank you for being with us. Events are changing

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so rapidly. Can I ask you to say what your reaction is to this

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latest news, it looks as if George Papandreou is about to go to the

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present and say he will step down, and is calling for a coalition

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government? I can describe my feelings in three words. Relief.

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Vigilance. Hope. Relief, because this bamboozling chapter is over.

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Vigilance because it is a time to make it work. And hope because this

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magnificent country with human wealth can really make up to its

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obligations with the EU in the eurozone but with its citizens and

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further generations to come as well. Relief. Why do you think a

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coalition government is going to be so much better for Greece, and the

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eurozone as a whole. The whole of the eurozone is watching this.

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referred to the prime ministers expected resignation. Or at least

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the withdrawal of support from his own parliamentary team. This relief

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is explained by the fact in the past two years, Greece has been

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under a very heavy austerity plan which has increased massively the

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brain drain from the country, it has increased unemployment, and

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given no hope for the future because of the breakdown of the

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backbone of the Greek economy. For small-to-medium enterprises. Lack

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of liquidity. It has brought the economy to a dead end. Vigilance

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has to do with the kind of government of national unity which

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will be formed. If we just have a coalition of already existing

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parties, each of which will try to promote its own party purposes,

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then I am sure it will be back to the same point we were yesterday

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sooner than later. Whatever happens in Greece over the

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next couple of days, next couple of hours, will send shock waves around

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the world, starting with the eurozone. Leaders are at pains to

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stress they are making every effort to contain the danger of contagion

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from Greece. But, markets remain nervous. Joining us from

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Westminster is a Nobel winning economist. If getting reaction to

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this latest news, what you think of this latest idea of what we might

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be seeing in Greece, it might happen today, a coalition

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government rather than the government we have got now?

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I think it will be a very good development actually, because party

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politics have started interfering with the programme of reform,

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whether there should be implementation of this programme or

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not. I think, the current Prime Minister George Papandreou managed

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to get a very good deal for Greece at the Brussels meeting last week.

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And I am sure he will want to implement it. The reason he called

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the referendum is because he realised he was not going to get

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the political support in Parliament to pass it. So if he had a popular

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what -- popular vote in his favour he had -- he could have gone to his

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party. But that has backfired on him. The only way to get the reform

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programme accelerated his to have a government free of party politics.

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If you talk about this reform programme, the austerity package.

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The fact of the matter is that, in order to have it implemented, you

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do need public support, and isn't that what George Papandreou was

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trying to get? It is what he was trying to get and what he Apache

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has failed to get. The opposition of course should have given him

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support on the free-market reforms that he was trying to put into

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practice, trade unions objected. There was opposition all round. A

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government of national unity, a coalition government, especially

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under the person Lucas Papdemos, mentioned, very well respected

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economist, I know him very well, I think he can do a very good job.

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And especially what we need is for everyone to realise that, although

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austerity is not a good thing to take on, it is not good to be part

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of a reduction of living steerage - - standards, it needs to be done.

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Just before this crisis, Greece was living beyond its means.

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For the events in Greece are talking many other issues as we

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have been hearing. One particular group is trying to raise awareness

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to a side effect of the austerity drive. Oxfam says rich nations are

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cutting the amount of aid they are prepared to give to the developing

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world. Bill Gates is also at the summit to deliver a report on

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development financing. When I caught up with him yesterday in

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London, he told me he favoured a financial transaction tax to boost

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It's clearly a political question, and when we talk about the

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financial transaction tax, there's many flavours of this. What I was

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looking at is, are there ways for countries that are falling a bit

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short of their aid commitments - are there ways that they could

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raise money to get to those commitment levels? You know, my

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expertise has been being able to say if you do apply it to

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development aid, it's going to be a fantastic effect.

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Joining me now from Cannes is British actor Bill Nighy. He's at

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the G20 summit as an ambassador for Oxfam.

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Thank you for being with us on GMT. You've got the support of people...

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My pleasure. - like Bill Gates for more funding for developing

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countries, but the truth of the matter is all your voices are going

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to get drowned out, are they not, by this crisis in the eurozone?

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hope you're not correct. The system has broken down. The system needs

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fixing, and the Robin Hood tax could play a very important and

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healthy part of a new system. As you say, this is a very popular tax,

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and resistance to it is becoming more and more difficult, and it is

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supported not only by figures like the Archbishop after, the Pope,

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Angela Merkel, Nicolas Sarkozy, a thousand economists worldwide, a

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thousand Parliamentarian, but also billions of people, as reflected in

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the protests worldwide now. I find it very moving that these protests

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are so dignified, restrained and so powerful. I think in all my time

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being involved with Oxfam and an ambassador for the Robin Hood tax

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this moment is most crucial and when I feel most bullish. I think

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resistance is now more difficult because it has been condemned by

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the IMF and EC. There have been feasible studies. It has been

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declared eminently desirable by some major figures. We'll leave it

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there. Thank you very much. Still to come on GMT: Three

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Pakistani cricketers are given jail terms for deliberately bowling no-

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balls in a betting scam. The judge says they have let down supporters

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of the game. First let's get all the business

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news. Susana is here. What have you got? We're really looking at all of

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this volatility in the bond markets because of this cloud over the

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whole euro project with fears the Greek Government might collapse.

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It's really spooking traders, and investors have pushed up the cost

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of Government debt, so for example, Italian debt - currently, the ten-

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year bond is - the yield is currently 6.4%, and usually 6% is

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considered very high, and one City believed it's politicians'

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indecision. All the talk we have seen in Cannes is politicians'

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indecision that's really led to this crisis. We have already seen

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contagion spread. That's why Italian bond yields are trading

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where they were. What we should have seen is 12-18 months ago,

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place a strong firewall around Greece than throw more money at the

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problem, but the lack of decision- making around Greece and the lack

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of commitment to just throw a load of money at the country to solve

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the problem. Really it does seem contagion is spreading. German and

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French borrowing costs has widened to a record - another sign of

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concern in the financial markets. Spain held a bond auction this

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morning. It raised $6.2 billion, but had to pay much higher interest

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rates. We tend to, quite often anyway,

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look at this kind of thing in a political way. Of course, there's

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business - they're watching this as much. What's the reaction there?

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Interestingly, we have had some numbers out from Adidas, the major

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sports bran, and they've actually had an extremely good year. They've

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come out to say that they're expecting that its sales forecast

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for this year will rise. Sales will be up 12% for 2011. I asked the

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Chief Executive Herman Hainer if the euro debt cries was having an

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impact on his business. I mean, there is quite a lot of uncertainty

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out in the markets, which definitely will not help the

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financial market or even the economical market if it continues

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because consumers will get nervous, and the consumer confidence will go

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down, so I definitely hope that within the summit in Cannes, the

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politicians will find the solution to that. Even so, Herman Hainer had

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told me he still believes that 2012 is going to be an extremely good

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year for them. They have just expanded into outdoor equipment by

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taking over the US firm Five Ten. So that's a new area for them, but

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also they're looking at the 2012 Olympics. They think that's going

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to be really good for them, but we don't know, of course, where the

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bond markets will be by then. Thank you.

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We want to hear what you think, so do get in touch with us at GMT. The

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best way to do that is to go to our website - bbc.co.uk/gmt. You can

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watch highlights from the programme and look back at some of our recent

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interviews. This is GMT from BBC World News.

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I'm George Alagiah. The headlines: Greece's Prime Minister George

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Papandreou will visit the country's President shortly and offer to

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stand down to allow a new coalition government to take power.

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And there is more pressure on Greece at the G20 summit in Cannes.

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World leaders say the country must decide whether it wants to be in,

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or out, of the euro. Three top Pakistani cricketers have

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been jailed today for their role in a betting scam. A court in London

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sentenced the former captain of Pakistan's cricket team, Salman

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Butt, to 30 months in prison. Two of his former teammates have also

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been jailed, while their agent received the longest prison term.

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With me is the cricket writer and broadcaster Mihir Bose. Thank you

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for being with us. You know, this was once hailed as the gentleman's

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game. It's lifted the lid on all of that this is hardly that anymore.

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Cricket is a very moral game. To get a decision like LBW, you have

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to appeal to somebody else. In football, you can appeal as much as

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you like, the referee won't give it. The players don't appeal for a

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decision that is not out. Here we have a case of cheating. What is

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fascinating is these people have cheated - faceless cheating.

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Normally, the victim of cheating comes forward and says he has been

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robbed of eggs. But these are illegal bookmakers in the Middle

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East and the Indian subcontinent - we don't know where they are - and

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what the judicial authorities in this country have shown is, they

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have said the fact you have cheated in the game of cricket is

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interesting. The judge said they have cheated the game of cricket.

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In fact, they have cheated the concept of the integrity of sport.

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Without that, there is no sport. Isn't there a sense, though, this

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court case - actually, what it says is that the sport itself should

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have been doing more. It shouldn't wait for a London court to start

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sentencing people. After all, there has been an anti-corruption drive

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for, what, ten years? Ten years. I covered the story when it broke -

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the South African captain and the authorities there just had a

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judicial hearing. You're right it shows the limitation of sport. They

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don't have an Army and borders, but they manage everything. They don't

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need Government help. What this demonstrates is they cannot police

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their own. If you look at what happened, these are Pakistani

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cricketers playing away from home. Their board should have been proper

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regulations to make sure the middle man, the agent, who got the highest

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sentence, was not in touch with them to entrap them in whatever way

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- lure them. We had lots of evidence about, yet they didn't do

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that. The cricket authorities didn't discover it. It's our breed,

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the journalists, much maligned, that did a sting operation. This

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affects the subcontinent. Is it bigger than that or is it still

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really... I am told it's very widespread. I am told because

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cricket is breaking into 20 overs games it allows a lot of discreet

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moments. Six balls have to be bowled, so there aresies discreet

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moments that you can bet a no ball or a wide. Also, on TV millions are

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watching, and these glam gamblers are all there, these middlemen

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doing it are all there. It provides a lot of opportunity for people who

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think they can get away with it. Thank you very much.

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Let's look at the other stories making headlines.

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The chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court has

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told the UN that mercenaries may be trying to help Saif Gaddafi flee

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from Libya. Luis Moreno Ocampo called upon all states to disrupt

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any plans of escape by Colonel Gaddafi's second son who has been

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indicted for crimes against humanity by the ICC.

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Russia says it will try to bring home arms dealer Viktor Bout, who

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was found guilty in New York of agreeing to sell arms to people he

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thought were Colombian militants intent on attacking American

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soldiers. Bout was captured in Thailand in 2008 following a sting

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operation organised by US agents. A former Soviet military officer,

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Bout was dubbed the "Merchant of Death" for his arms smuggling

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activities. Officials in Afghanistan say two

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security guards died and at least four others were injured during a

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militant attack in the west of the country. The assault began with a

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suicide bombing at the entrance to a compound used by a private

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security firm in the city of Herat. The security firm provides

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logistical support to the international troops based nearby.

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The pilot who was forced to make an emergency landing after his landing

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gear failed has been talking about his experience for the first time.

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The Boeing 767 was en route from the US to Poland with 230

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passengers and crew onboard when the incident happened.

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It came in on its belly and skidded along the runway at Warsaw Airport

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with smoke sand flames licking the wings of the aircraft. The Boeing

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767 had circled Warsaw Airport for an hour to burn fuel before it

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landed. As soon as it came to a halt, the evacuation doors were

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opened and passengers spilled out on to the Tarmac. They'd been

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warned before the emergency landing that they'd have to get off as

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quick as possible. The pilot said he was thankful they'd all arrived

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savely. I felt a huge relief when the head

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flight attendant told me a minute and a half after we'd landed that

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the plane was empty. Emergency crews continued to doubt

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the plane with water long after it had landed to make sure there were

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no embers left. No-one was injured in the incident, but the captain

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isn't taking any credit for that. He says he was just doing his job.

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TRANSLATION: It's too much to say I'm a national hero. I'm absolutely

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sure that any of our pilots could have landed the plane and the

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result would have been the same, because we train for situations

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like this on simulators. The plane was checked before it left the US,

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and no faults were found, but the authorities say a thorough

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