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Front line Kabul - a major attack by the Taliban is under way in the


Afghan capital. Missile, suicide bombers and gunfire as the US


Welcome to the programme. Also in the programme: Warnings of


a bloody cycle of reprisals in Libya. Amnesty International says


opposition forces may be guilty of war crimes. There is no war crimes.


They are not a military. They are ordinary people. They might be some


mistakes. A threatened, abused and killed because of their sexuality.


A new international organisation joined the fight for gay rights.


It is 12:30pm in London, 7:30am in Washington and mid- afternoon in


Kabul, were at least four people have been killed in an ongoing co-


ordinated attack by Taliban fighters. They have been several


explosions and heavy gunfire in what is supposed to be a high


security part of the city. Rockets have been fired towards both the US


embassy and the NATO headquarters. Our Correspondent in Kabul, who had


to take cover earlier, a few moments ago gave me the latest.


George, one of those rockets you mentioned appeared to be targeted


at the US embassy which is not very far from where we are. It landed


about 100 metres away. When it landed it seemed to hit a school


bus with a great deal of shrapnel. We have heard LE6 explosions,


police that three of them rocket propelled grenades. At least three


suicide attackers are involved in this a salt to target the US


embassy and the International and mission. We are about two hours


into this attack. I have just heard another couple of gunshot very near


where we are at the moment. Quentin, I am assuming responsibility for


dealing with this lies with the Afghan forces? And the attack


itself must call into question itself their ability to secure


Kabul? It might not seem like it, but the


number of Kabul attacks are down. But other insurgent groups have


shown they can strike at even the most secure areas in this city. We


believe that Gamp security forces are on the streets in force. I


could see the US embassy Marines on top of the Embassy securing and


assessing the area. In between explosions and gunshots it is


eerily quiet. Most Afghan people and even many of the guards in this


area are off the streets and have taken cover. I could not quite


understand it, are you saying the US Marines are involved and the


firing back? We did not see them firing back. You would expect, when


an attack takes place, the US Marines and the force protection


soldiers at the ISAF headquarters would be on high alert. They would


take positions and assess the situation and they are prepared for


any attack on those buildings. Let's take a look at some of the


other stories. Libyan rebels fighting to overthrow Colonel


Gaddafi have been accused of unlawful killings and torture.


Amnesty International made the accusations in a report based on


three months of research in Libya. It is urging the new Government to


establish the rule of law. Suspected Gaddafi loyalists in the


hands of International Security Assistance Force. No suggestion of


malpractice here, Boswell's Amnesty International accuses the Colonel


Gaddafi regime of widespread crimes under international law, it says it


has evidence of serious abuses by opposition supporters including


torture and reprisal killings. Amnesty is calling on the new


leadership to show more accountability. In February there


was a rumour about Colonel Gaddafi using black people as mercenaries.


It is wrong, the NCC has not done a lot to curb that room and now there


is a lot of retaliation against sub-Saharan Africans. They are at


real risk of being taken from the work, their home, from the street,


being tortured and killed. Amnesty International suggests some


opposition supporters could be responsible for war crimes,


although on a smaller scale. An allegation rejected by the National


Transitional Council. They are not a military, they are ordinary


people. They might be some mistakes, but we cannot clarify them as war-


crimes. On the ground in Libya, forces of the National Transitional


Council check vehicles leaving that broke Gaddafi stronghold of Bani


Walid, as it continues to hold out despite intensive fighting around


the time -- town and NATO airstrikes. It is full of anxious


civilians, but the NTC are on the lookout for senior members of the


Gaddafi regime, trying to make their escape, too. And in Tripoli,


a new stage for the head of the Endsleigh seat, Mustafa Abdul Jalil


to address the people. From the same as were Colonel Gaddafi used


to rally his supporters, he described his vision for the new


Libya. TRANSLATION: We seek a state of


institutions, law and prosperity. We won't tolerate any extremist


ideology on the right or the left. We are Muslim people for a moderate


Islam and we will stay on this road. You are on our side, you are our


weapons against anybody who tries to sabotage a revolution.


Heady times in Tripoli, managing the expectations and the interests


of the whole population of this nation, one of the major challenges


ahead. Those allegations from Amnesty


International are aimed at both sides in the Libyan conflict. Both


sides are accused of racism and staring of xenophobia which led to


attacks on sub-Saharan Africans. The majority of violations were


committed by could at the forces of fighters loyal to the National


Transitional Council are accused of lynchings and revenge killings. The


NTC have denied the allegations but Amnesty International say they


shouldn't allow this behaviour. Claudio Cordone joins us from


Tripoli. Let ME pick up what the Justice Minister told us in that


report. He said, the opposition forces were not a military and


therefore they could not be guilty of what you have suggested, war


crimes? Libya is still in an ongoing


conflict, although an internal one. There are some members who commit


crimes such as torturing prisoners, would be responsible for war crimes.


The point is not so much the legal definition, the fact is everybody


should condemn and prosecute anybody who is responsible for the


kind of abuses such as killing prisoners, torturing them and so on.


We know the National Transitional Council has said it repeatedly,


they won't tolerate these crimes. We would like to see more direct


appeals for these types of acts them not to be carried out. Also in


particular for the Protection of those who are currently in


detention centres around the country. We visited many in Tripoli


and its surroundings. We are very concerned about the treatment of


detainees in the centre's right now. You must be concerned, it is one


thing for the chairman of the National Transitional Council to be


making speeches in Martyr's Square. Quite another thing for him to


guarantee to people like you that these revenge killings, perhaps


even war crimes, that they won't continue? We are aware of the


difficulties that -- difficulties they are facing. It is being ruled


effectively by a variety of armed groups who may not respond to


instructions from the National Transitional Council. The council


is establishing itself as the governments of the new Olivia. They


should make more direct appeals to deal with some specific crimes. --


Libya. Not just for not taking reprisals, but the situation of


black Libyans who are being assumed automatically of being loyal to


Colonel Gaddafi, who are being detained and roughed up and so on.


At the same time they should remove from active duty, any fighters they


suspect of having committed these crimes. It is something we know


they are aware of, and they have said things that we would like to


see some proper action on the ground. The situation remains dire.


You mention xenophobic attacks on black Africans, as opposed to Arabs.


Have you seen any signs that these people are going to be given the


kind of protection you are calling for? The television reports we see,


see them in difficult and dire circumstances. We have also


witnessed for example, a black Libyan being taken out of hospital


by gunmen who told him a ring no way you off from and we will take


you away from Tripoli because they treat you too well. There are many


examples of that nature affecting Africans from sub-Saharan Africa,


who have no one to turn to. We have seen those actions and that that is


why we think a direct appeal, as others have been made by the


National Transitional Council to all of their fighters to respect


them in particular, would be important as one way to try to


influence the variety of armed groups who at the moment are in


control of much of Libya. Cloudier called Don't Fence the time.


At least five children and a bus driver had been killed during an


ambush on a school bus in north- western Pakistan. The children were


returning to their local village from the shower when the gunmen


attacked. Almost 20 others were also injured. Police are


investigating why the bus was targeted.


Or authorities have stepped up the search for British woman in Kenya


who was abducted after her husband was killed in an attack on Monday.


They were staying at a luxury safari village. It is feared the


woman has been taken to Somalia. The Iranian President, Mahmoud


Ahmadinejad has told the US network, NBC that two hike is detained in


Iran will be released. They were seized in 2009 year the border. A


third hiker was released last year on humanitarian grounds.


Australia's Prime Minister, Julia Gillard has presented her


controversial tax bill to Parliament. It would force 500 of


the country's biggest polluters to pay for every tonne of carbon


dioxide they emit, in a bid to tackle climate change.


Becoming a father could cause a sharp fall in the hormone


testosterone, according to US researchers. A five-year study of


600 men in the Philippines have found the decline was strongest


among men who were most involved in raising their children.


Still to come on the programme: How a new type of lie-detector in test


could boost security at airports. First, let's get the business news


with Aaron. If you have to talk me through this. Italy is in trouble,


but they went marching off to China to try and get some help and what


happened? They did that last week. Italian officials or work in


Beijing with their caps in hand. Joining Spain, Portugal, and


companies like Morgan Stanley. When you are strapped for cash, who were


you turn to? The only one with money is China. It is sitting on


reserves of three trillion dollars. We have not had any confirmation


from Beijing or whether they will buy the Italian debt. But Beijing


has been supportive towards the eurozone. But given the state of


some of these economies, why would they want to buy these debts? This


is a correspondence in Beijing. is trade and it is something


Chinese officials have spoken about in the last few years. They are


interested in seeing happen, that the eurozone countries continued


boosting their economies. Their economies don't falter. If they do,


people could buy fewer Chinese-made goods and that could hit the


economy in China. That has not had in any reassurance. Italy went to


the markets today to raise $9 billion. China has not made up its


mind about Italy, but it made up its mind about Volvo? Absolutely.


Just over a year ago, Volvo was under the Ford umbrella and it was


struggling. It was losing money and Ford wanted rid of it. They sold it


to a company in China for $1.8 billion and the Magic started to


happen. Volvo sales are up this year. In China they are up nearly


40%. It has become the newest luxury brand in the US in terms of


sales. Volvo is the fastest growing premium brand in the first eight


months of this year. We have managed significant turnaround last


year. Volvo is profitable and will remain profitable. We are


generating positive cash flow and that is despite the investments we


are taking into new technology and to our industrial footprint. He was


very optimistic but they are keeping their eye on the markets


and this talk of recession in the US and Europe.


US and Europe. Let's take a quick look at the


We want to hear what do you think. Please get in touch. The best way


to do that is go to our website. There'll also has of wonderful


things including some highlights from the programme. -- there are


all sorts of wonderful things. The headlines: Taliban militants


have launched co-ordinated attacks in the embassy district of the


Afghan capital Kabul. Amnesty International says Libyan


opposition forces may be guilty of war crimes and new authorities in


Tripoli deny this. A dispute over preparations for


Nazi atrocities has said Germany and Italy against each other in the


UN's highest court. Some Italian courts have already received claims


from victims and their families but Germany has rejected suggestions it


should pay up. German soldiers captured by allied


forces and paraded for the cameras as prisoners of war. More than 60


years on and Germany has forced it to lead to appear here at the


International Court of Justice. -- forced Italy. They are trying to


stop victims of the Nazi regime from being allowed to claim


compensation through the Italian court system. In legal terms of


this is all about several community. We request a ruling on the


principle of state immunity, a pillar of present basic standard


international law. Central to the principle is that of jurisdictional


immunity, which of course debars private parties from bringing seats


before the Court of a foreign state against another state for its Act's.


The Germans dared think it is right they should be dragged into another


country's courts. -- don't think. It is not just the Italians seeking


reparations for events that happened during the Second World


War. This is the aftermath of a massacre. More than 200 Greek


villagers were killed in the attack carried out by Hitler's army in the


summer before the end of the war. Lawyers representing Greece will


explain why they believe these victims should be entitled to claim


for reparations. It is not a matter of money. For


those people it is a matter of justice.


If Germany lose, this could be a landmark case opening up


opportunities for victims in other nations to seek compensation for


crimes committed by the Nat seas. - - Nazis.


A new organisation to support gay men and women around the world has


been lodged today. Kaleidoscope will promote diversity and drugs --


was back to. It will name and shame countries where persecution of


homosexuals is widespread. We are joined by a Nigerian gay activist


and a founding member, and the director, land price. Bisi Alim, if


I could start with you. Nigeria is a free-for-all, all sorts of things


of possible, the you have had a particularly nasty experience --


but you have had. I have. It is interesting you say


it is a country where everything is possible, more like the American


dream, I don't know what we will have the Nigerian dream. But there


is so much tension around religion, tripe, and at the court is the


tension around sexuality and sex education. People like me and so


many others, it is interesting for you to know it is just last year


that the law was passed in Nigeria that allowed women to apply for


international passports without the permission of their husband. You


can see the situation. What happened to you personally? You


come out publicly on television. 2004, and before the show we knew


something would happen, we knew there would be a backlash but it


was more than what we were expecting and the bottom line was I


was almost killed. Just like Uganda activist. I was lucky enough to be


able to escape, find my way back to the UK where I have been given


another opportunity to live my life. Lance, that is a graphic example of


what the problem is. Perhaps we are not so convinced about why did


needs a new organisation, there are lots that have been fighting for


gay rights at work in this area. You are right and they have done


some fantastic work. Stonewall, probably the best-known but some


big international gay rights organisations as well. But nobody


has tried to do what we think Kaleidoscope can do which is on two


levels, connecting with people who are in the same situation he was in,


not quite sure how to respond to events in his own country, and if


we can build up the capacity and their ability to engage with their


media, governments and learn from one another about what works and


what doesn't work in terms of trying to level the playing field,


because certainly media coverage, the people who want to preach hate


have an easy ride. Most of the coverage of human sexuality, gay


issues, is very hostile. If we can redress that balance a little bit...


Here you are, a white man sitting in London, director of an


organisation, most of the problem we are talking about is in the


southern states, Africa, Asia. There is a problem there, isn't it


going to sound like white liberals preaching to agents? That is why


all first conversations we had to work with people like Bisi Alim. We


are based in London, we make no apologies for that. The language we


use, the whole way the operate, it will be driven by them, it is about


building up support. You mentioned earlier, you talked


about religion and sex education and so on. You didn't use the word


culture. But actually what you're up against his culture, is it not?


Even in countries like South Africa which earned a well as the most


liberal of constitutions, -- which I know well. You said you have been


to Nigeria, you can see that when people talk about culture they talk


about religion. There is this fluidity between culture, what is


culture, and porters religion? Every time we talk about a culture


in Africa we talk about a Christian God or a Muslim God which is not


our culture. We have forgotten about our tradition. They are


traditional day 80s. Would they have been any more tolerant? There


is history of homosexuality before white man. Even white people came


to Africa recorded history of where men were dressed like women, men


were the third minute, had what you would call husbands, and these


people were living happily within the society, within the framework


of the society. They were not far removed or living in the bush. The


law that criminalised, sexuality is British law.


I noticed in your literature you say you're prepared to name and


shame countries that don't give equal rights. Why don't you start


now. Name a few countries. It doesn't take Kaleidoscope to


name and shame countries. We know about Nigeria. Two or three


examples, Uganda, only... We know that already. 38 of the 50 members


of the Commonwealth criminalise and sexuality. Criminalise, have laws


criminalising homosexuality in some form or another. Most of those laws


were left behind by the British as a result of the colonies. You


mention South Africa where the constitution was changed. India it


has been decriminalised, so it is possible to make a change. It is


not about as coming from outside telling them what to do, the


British have made two mistakes already -- too many mistakes. Why


was India able to make progress? Why is it in a wonder they can have


a sensible discussion about these issues than in Uganda? -- Rwandan.


As efforts continue to rebuild Japan's north-east region


devastated by the earthquake and tsunami six months ago defected


communities have been receiving help and support from around the


world in various forms. The young Greek pianist Panos Karan, the


founder of the charity, Keys Of Change, gave his support to the


displaced playing 11 recitals in eight days for those living in


emergency shelters in Fukushima. He said the trip changed him as an


artist and a person with people teaching him a sense of dignity and


compassion that touched him beyond words.


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