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They were the first to support military action against Gaddafi's


regime, now they're the first international leaders to visit the


new Libya. Hetdz of France and Britain are in Tripoli to talk to


the country's National Transitional Council. They've praised the


rebel's ousting of Colonel Gaddafi's regime. I pay tribute to


those people throughout Libya today. It's your revolution, it's their


bravery that's enabled this to Welcome to GMT.


Also in the programme: A man is arrested in London after the Swiss


banking giant UBS reveals a $2 billion loss to rogue trading.


Our ever changing world - the new Times atlas shows ou politics,


climate change and human impact has affected the planet.


It's midday here in London, 7an London and 1.30pm in the Libyan


capital, of course it's 12.30 here in London. Britain's Prime Minister,


David Cameron, and the French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, are


preparing for talks with the country's new authorities. The two


men, whose forces spearheaded the NATO campaign, that helped drive


out Colonel Gaddafi, are the first foreign leaders to go to Libya


since the National Transitional Council took over. Here is our


World Affairs Correspondent. A dramatic moment indeed. The two


chief architects of the international intervention set foot


on Libyan soil to be greeted by the country's new custodians, political


and diplomatic theatre yes, but powerful diplomatic symbolism too


of international support for a new Libyan.


REPORTER: How does it feel to be in Tripoli? I'm delighted to be here


and to show support for the NTC here in Libya. There's still a long


way to go, but to show international support for the NTC,


for Mr Djibril and Mr Jalil, it's great, I'm delighted to be here.


REPORTER: What does it feel like to be here? Democracy, peace and


reconciliation. Then on to a Tripoli hospital. Mr Cameron and Mr


Sarkozy will be happy to accept the plaudits. As they met victims of


the months of Libyan crisis and conflict, a reminder of the cost of


this huge political upheaval. a great honour to have met you. Are


you getting everything you need here...


Libyans may be grateful for the outside help they received, but


their leaders are also keen to underline that they are their own


masters too. There's also much still to be done.


The country's top leaders acknowledge they will need


continuing help, something they've already been discussing with their


very important visitors. TRANSLATION: We look forward to


establishing a state of peace, security and political transition.


I salute everybody and I salute my guests. The UN Security Council


which cleared the way for the original international intervention


is having to look to the future and how the outside world will support


the Libyan leadership from now on. For the new UN Libya mission, the


UK is circulating a draft Security Council resolution, among other


things it would lift sanctions on the national oil corps, allow the


resumption of commercial flights and provide political and technical


assistance to the new authorities. A vote on all this is expected soon.


For all the jubilation and gratitude on show in trifplt right


now, the new Libya remains a fragile thing with many challenges


ahead -- Tripoli. Joining me from Tripoli is our


correspondent Peter biles. We have been listening to this press


conference and I suppose what Nicolas Sarkozy and Prime Minister


David Cameron have made clear is that although they were among the


first to help with the transition, they are not going anywhere, their


support is still strong for the new Libya?


I think what struck me about the news conference, the comments by Mr


Sarkozy and Mr Cameron was the impression that they'd been quite


moved by what they've seen and heard in this very brief visit this


morning. They're only on the ground for a matter o of a few hours but


have obviously expressed unequivocal support for Libya's


rulers, the NTC. While acknowledging at the same time that


there are difficulties ahead, that the fighting goes on in a number of


areas where Gaddafi loyalists are putting up stiff defence and, of


course, the fact that Colonel Gaddafi himself is still on the run.


There's no way back for him to Libya, to Tripoli, but he's not yet


captured. Some of David Cameron's strongest remarks referred to


Colonel Gaddafi, saying "it's over, give up" he said "the mercenaries


should go home, it's time for Gaddafi to give himself up and face


international justice". Both countries making clear that they


are willing to support in many ways in the releasing of assets in


medical aid as well? Yes. The consistent theme is that


Libyans will take charge of this process, that this is not something


that's going to be thrust upon them by the international community. The


destiny of Libya lies in Libyan hands, that's the very firm message


from all in the international community at the moment. But


Britain and America and France and others stand ready to provide what


assistance is needed, what the Libyans think they might need help


with and David Cameron, the British Prime Minister, has today announced


a number of practical steps, including 50 places in UK


specialist hospitals for those critically injured during the war,


�600,000 for help with demining operations, �60,000 for a


communications system for the police. Crucially perhaps, the


unfreezing of assets worth �500 million and that will be done as


soon as possible. Of course, Peter, we have heard the


phrase "Arab Spring dtiondtion and David Cameron mentioned the phrase


"Arab Summer" as if the Libyans should be an example for other


countries and other people who wish to take back, in David Cameron's


words, their country? Well, clearly people around the


region will be watching very closely what happens, as they have


been over the last six to seven months. The other thing that David


Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy made clear is that this is not over yet.


It's far from over and the most difficult time could still lie


ahead, in spite of what we have seen in the fall of Tripoli just


over three weeks ago. Peter Biles, thank you very much.


The other stories making headlines now around the world today:


Pakistan's Prime Minister is calling for unity within his


country to overcome challenges including the ongoing floods. More


than 200 people have died and more than a million homes have been


destroyed by severe flooding in the south. Aid workers say this year's


floods in some areas are more serious than those that devastated


the country last year. Chilean students have once again


clashed with police during ongoing protests to demand a boost in


educational spending. Water trucks dispersed demonstrators armed with


rocks and Molotov cocktails. Police have made several arrests in the


capital, Santiago. Palestinians are due to submit a bid for full


membership at the UN Security Council on the 23rd September. The


announcement ends speculation over whether Palestinians would risk a


threatened US veto of their statehood bid.


The International Space Station crew is preparing for its staff to


be reduced by half. Two Russians, along with an American, are leaving


and are stead yuled to land in Kazakhstan on Thursday night --


scheduled. The three remaining astronauts depart the post in mid-


November. The Swiss banking giant UBS says


it's discovered unauthorised trading in its investment bank


leading to a possible loss of around $2 billion. Police in London


have arrested a man in connection with the loss, UBS said it may


report an overall loss for the third quarter because of this


unauthorised trade. We are joined by the Assistant editor at Reuters


Breaking Views. Thank you very much for joining me. I suppose what many


people are going to be asking today is, how on earth has this happened,


we have heard of Jerome Kerrville and Nick Leeson, how has this


happened, people will be saying? The fact of the matter is that in


these investment banks with the large trading operations they have,


it's unfortunately, despite the controls and risk management, it's


possible for people to take matters into their own hands, to cover


things up and to run up unauthorised positions which lead


to losses. I think what is shocking here really though is that


especially after the Kerviel scandal, the regulators were


pressuring for tighter regulations. It's not the case that people can


run up losses, it's the fact that they don't get discovered until


they run up the losses. It seems to be the case that however hard they


try, banks are unable to control that. Have we had any explanation


from UBS over how something so huge managed to be missed? No, I think


the details are leaking out as we speak. Basically, we've - UBS s


said they discovered this recently, and so we have to believe that


that's the case. But then again, that begs the question, how is it


possible that something of this scale does not come to the


attention, is not caught by the risk management systems sooner, and


that's the real question they'll have to answer. UBS has a very


significant wealthy private client base. This is not going to do much


for UBS's reputation among these investors, is it? No, it's a


terrible setback for UBS. They had a near death experience in the


crisis in 2007 - 08 when it suffered heavy losses in the


investment banking and its private banking clients, a lot of them ran


for cover, Swiss banks moved elsewhere. UBS has spent the last


three years persuading private banking clients that the risks had


been reduced and therefore it's safe to have UBS as a private bank


again. This will be a real setback for UBS in that effort and I think


it will lead to renewed calls for UBS to separate or shut down invest


vestment bank entirely -- investment bank entirely.


Thank you very much. Police in Haiti have used tear gas


to disperse hundreds of protestors demanding the withdrawal of UN


peacekeeping troops from the country. The protests were


triggered by allegations that UN troops from Uruguay raped a Haitian


man. Emerging from the rubble of last


year's earthquake, a crowd vents its anger against the UN's forces.


The latest allegations, about an alleged rape, have inflamed an


already sensitive situation. In July, a young man is alleged to


have been raped by Uruguayan members of the international


peacekeeping force. TRANSLATION: You and the troops are


abusing our children and they're committing all sorbts of crimes.


Since the rape case, we are launching a protest until the UN


mission leaves. Uruguay has apologised to Haiti and


four troops have been arrested over the allegations. But that's little


comfort to the people already furious about an outbreak of


cholera blamed on another group of UN troops.


As the protest grew, police Fireed tear gas to disperse the protestors,


driving them back into a camp which still houses many thousands made


homeless by the earthquake. As Haiti struggles to get back on its


feet, there's a growing debate over the future role of the United


Nations. The country's President has said


the peacekeepers are still needed but should be gradually replaced by


haition Security Forces. The UN says it's enforce ago zero


tolerance policy for misconduct but that's unlikely to satify all these


protestors. Still to come on GMT: A new atlas


highlights our ever changing world. Also - monks on wheels, a new


documentary filmed by three skateboarders show a different


perspective of Burma. Time now to get all the business


news with Jamie. So much going on, but perhaps some growth in Europe?


Well, no, that's the big problem of course. Oh! I was hoping... We've


had word from the European Commission, a breakdown of what


their growth forecasts are for the rest of the year for Europe and


it's not good. Growth will have come to a virtual stand still by


the end of the year and they are not expecting anything to get going


again until spring, strength analysts think it will be later.


The monetary affairs commissioner said this about it. Economic growth


in the European Union is expected to be coming to a virtual


standstill towards the end of the year. Compared to our spring


forecast, prospects are gloomier and risks to their growth outlook


are tilted to the downside. Downbeat to say the least. What


does this all mean for countries struggling with austerity plans?


That's where it starts to hurt. Countries like Greece which are


going through austerity measures and the other countries, Italy


passed theirs yesterday, so those sorts of things will make growth


more difficult and then, as growth becomes slower, then of course in


proportion to their GDP, the deficit gets bigger. This is


explained by a member of Deutsche Bank. The problem we have right now


in Europe is that we have a kind of vicious circle. The markets and the


European peers are requesting from this peripherals that they stick to


the budgetary targets but since growth is weaker, they need to give


us more additional fis dal austerity measures which in turn


makes their growth outlook even bleaker -- fiscal.


Over the ocean now, the American markets open later? One weird thing


that's been happening over the last three days is despite the negative


news in Europe about the debt crisis, markets have been fairly


buoyant. There's a feeling at the moment that perhaps they've written


the idea of a Greek default into the prices possibly. Some are


saying they are being unrealistic. The big story at the moment,


interesting story, though it won't get a market reaction is that


Facebook has featured in the Financial Times, it won't be


offering a public offering until next year. They want to make more


developments but other companies have stopped IPOs because thng the


market is in a mess. A debate about I will show you what the European


markets are are doing. The FTSE is up 10 points. We are expecting the


American market to open about 0.5% higher. Generally positive.


This is GMT from BBC World News. The headlines:


Leader of France and Britain join Libya's National Transitional


Council for a news conference in Tripoli. A clear message to Gaddafi


loyalists, it is over, go home. Let's stay with that story and hear


what David Cameron had to say when he addressed the Libyan and


international press in Tripoli. This was your revolution, not our


revolution. It was those brave people in Misrata, in Benghazi, in


Brega, in Tripoli in the the mountains who were incredibly brave


in removing the dreadful dictatorship of Gaddafi and I pay


tribute to those people throughout Libya today. It is your revolution.


It is their bravery that has enabled this to happen, but let us


be clear, this is not finished. This is not done. This is not over.


There are still parts of Libya that are under Gaddafi's control,


Gaddafi is still at large and we must make sure this work is


completed. The French President, Nicolas


Sarkozy spoke of the need of unity among the people of Libya.


TRANSLATION: France is committed to Libya's unity, to the


reconciliation of Libya. France would like to tell its friends in


Libya, look forward to the future together. There should be no


sorting of accounts and you should respect Human Rights and law. And


that forgiveness should be shown by everybody, every single Libyan


person should know that those who committed crimes or those who have


robbed the Libyan people will be The changes to our world's cart to


go graphy has been highlight in the Times Times. The the Times Atlas.


We are joined by Sheena Barclay. I want you to explain the changes.


Greenland, take us through what has been going on? There is 25,000


changes which has been made between the at lasses and some significant


ones are to do with environmental change and to the change in the


landscape. If you look at Greenland, what we are seeing is a significant


reduction in the ice cap itself. The reduction over the last 12


years is about 15% which is 300,000 square kilometres which is the size


of France or the size of the UK and Ireland combined. That's the sort


of area and extent that we're talking about. If you look down the


East Coast of Greenland that's where the most changes are. So the


brown and green areas is the land cover that's now there compared to


what was there before and there is new islands appearing from


underneath the ice cap. This is aptly named as Warming


Island. We have a picture. Talking about climate change as well, we


have seen worrying, there it is, there is Warming Island, we have


seen the break-up of the Wilkins Ice Shelf? That's right. We have


seen accelerated regional warming. The air temperatures over the


Arctic are ten times the global average in terms of the increase


and for the likes of Western Europe, there is a significant potential


impact. So whilst the Earth is warming, what we are seeing in


Times Atlas that could result in a cooling over the winter months


which could increase our snow cover by 50% to 100%. Whilst we think


about global warming making the temperatures warmer, the impact on


certain regions could be the opposite.


You mentioned climate change. There has been massive political change


as well? We highlight in the atlas as the new country. The first


edition of this particular Times Atlas came out in 1967. There is 29


countries in the last 29. There is south Sudan and Kosovo and for the


first time we have introduced the category of international disputed


territory which actually highlights the case for some of the other


potential countries of the future. It is fascinating and to go through


one of these is charming as well. Thank you for explaining the


Something different! Skateboarding monks aren't the usual images you


associate with Burma, but a recently released documentary aims


to show a new side to the country. Despite media access being tightly


controlled by the ruling military Junta, three skateboarding friends


from Britain managed to gain access to do the filming. It's called


Altered Focus and explores Burma behind the headlines. Filmmaker


James Hammond spoke to the BBC to give this first person account of


his time in a country rarely seen by the outside world. As three


film-makers interested in the political situation within Burma,


we wanted to see what the one was like on a day-to-day basis, a Burma


behind the headlines. As skateboarders we had a means to


explore the country. I think one of the advantages we had going into


Burma was that we all look quite young, you know, we are skateboard


clothing, a journalist doesn't walk into a country with a skateboard,


no one would think they are coming here to do something that isn't


allowed to be done. That was one of our biggest advantages and going


through passport security, you know, we went through with a camera bag


and tapes. That was the hairyest moment. We thought this is the


moment when we get turned away or arrested, but no one batted an eye


lid. Often what is great about Burma is


the stunning scenery, the rich culture and the kindness of its


people is overshadowed by what is bad. The potential here is left


unex-- unexplored. The film is a different angle from


the normal sort of angle on Burma and how it is reported. It is


positive. It is looking at how people get on with their lives and


they are oppressed and that's one of the reasons we went out there.


We didn't go out there as a journalist to report what is


happening. We went out there to show how people are living day-to-


day. They were all intrigued by our


skateboards and we tried our best to explain how to stay on the


board! Such simple experiences make you


realise how fortunate we are in the West.


One thing we found really interesting was that a lot of the


skateboarders that we met watched the same videos that we watched.


Knew a a lot of the same companies and the same professional


skateboarders. Under this regime that is is super oppressive and


doesn't let Western media in. It is interesting to know they know the


I think one of the great things that the film highlights is that we


as Westerners take a lot of things for granted. There is a lot of


youth out there who aren't politicised. It was a fantastic


The Guinness World Records has announced its pick of global


records for 2012 and what an interesting bunch they are. Here's


the world's most elastic woman, Skye Broberg from New Zealand,


squeezing herself through a tennis racket and folding herself into a


box the size of a small suitcase. That's telecoms computer expert


Rolf Buchhol, or the world's most pierced man, shows off just some of


his 453 body piercings. If you let your nails grow for 18 years, this


is what they'd look like. These belong to Chris Walton from Las


Vegas. She's the new Guinness World Record holder for the world's


longest finger nails. And to end on a high note, take a look at the


longest line of skipping dogs on one rope. They're in Eastern Japan.


The star of Happy Days has been awarded an honorary OBE, the Fonz


was given the award for his more recent work in Britain, raising


awareness of dyslexia in children. He said he was honoured and proud.


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