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With Zeinab Badawi, as Turkey is rocked by an earthquake that's killed at least 200 people. And are Europe's leaders any closer to solving the Eurozone crisis?

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Or come to GMT with me, Zeinab Badawi. Tensions amongst EU leaders


as they struggle to find a way forward on the eurozone crisis.


France accuses Britain of unnecessary meddling. And we have a


special report from Zambia to look at the impact of its soaring birth


weight. -- birth rate. In Turkey, rescue


teams are desperately searching for survivors after the region was hit


by a powerful earthquake on Sunday. As they move through the disaster


area, the number of victims keeps going up. It now stands at more


than 260 killed and 1,300 injured. There's also concern for the tens


of thousands who spent the night outside, in freezing temperatures.


With all the very latest, here is our world affairs correspondent,


It is a race against time. Rescuers are cutting through layers of


concrete and steel. At last, they reach this man. Incredibly, still


alive, still able to move his arm. They question him and he shakes his


head. Gently, they pull him out. One lucky survivor in a sea of


devastation. Out of the rubble, another man is rushed to hospital.


In Ercis, the multi-storey buildings became so deadly.


Thousands collapsed like packs of cards. People had to fend for


themselves for hours before rescue teams reach this remote area --


dozens collapsed. We were trapped under debris with my brother. I was


pulled out but he is still trapped there. These buildings were no


match for the force of the earthquake. Two cities and many


villages are in ruins. Power and water supplies are cut off and many


residents can do little more than endure the agonising wait.


situation is really bad, many of our friends and relatives are still


trapped, we haven't heard from any of them. The Turkish Prime Minister


travelled to visit the injured in hospital. This is a Kurdish region


and Mr Erdogan will be acutely aware of allegations the government


has been slow to react. Terror of damaged buildings has driven


thousands out into the cold, sleeping where they can. Tents,


blankets and he does have at last begun to arrive. Family's -- and


heaters. Families who found shelter may have to live like this for


months. Funerals have already got under way. There are fears, with so


many unaccounted for, the death toll will rise. Eastern Turkey is


prone to earthquakes. There will be many questions over why so many new


buildings collapsed. For now, the focus is on the people buried here,


and trying to get them out. In the middle of so much tragedy, there


are miracles. Rescue teams find a toddler who is alive.


We had to be talking to one of our correspondents in Turkey -- we hope


to be talking. In the meantime, let's see some of the other stories


making headlines. At least 14 people have been wounded in a


grenade attack on a nightclub in the Kenyan capital, Nairobi. It


comes just a few days after the US embassy in Kenya warned of an


imminent threat of terrorist attacks directed at prominent


Kenyan facilities and areas popular with tourists. Thailand's prime


minister has warned that flooding, which has hit the country, could


last for another six weeks. At least five major industrial zones


north of Bangkok have already been swamped. More than 350 people have


died across the country so far. 10 days of mourning have been


announced after the death of Pakistan's former first lady, Begum


Nusrat Bhutto. She was the widow of Zulfikar Bhutto who founded the


Pakistan People's Party. European leaders are still


grappling with efforts to prevent the financial crisis from


spiralling out of control even more. They say progress have been made


but more work is needed before Wednesday, when a definitive plan


is expected to be announced. The major issues of how to resolve


Greece first past the post debt mountain and to determine the size


and nature of the bail-out fund is still under debate.


Late into the night once again, they met. Europe's leaders insist


that in three more days, they will have a solution to the debt crisis.


Germany's Angela Merkel and France's Nicolas Sarkozy are at the


centre of the deal being drawn up. They have argued in recent days


about the way forward. This weekend they publicly presented a united


front. TRANSLATION: Will battling a problem that has existed for


decades. It has nothing to do with the currency crisis but with a debt


crisis. Wednesday will not be the last step in this matter. There are


three big issues that need resolving, if Europe is to stand


any chance of emerging from this crisis. Banks hold a lot of dodgy


debt and need strengthening. There is agreement on that, at least. But


there is only some movement on what to do about Greece's debt, and they


are still considering two options on how to improve Europe's bail-out


fund. As one source put it, the discussions on that bail-out fund,


the EFSF, are still a mess. Coming to a workable economic solution is


difficult enough but arriving at a political compromise that can also


work is turning out to be nigh on impossible. The big, long term


issue is getting Europe's stagnating economy growing again.


On that, Europe's leaders believe they have put a workable strategy


in place. They also pushed ahead with measures to improve the


monitoring of eurozone government budgets. That is designed to ensure


our debt levels never get this high again. But staving off the next


crisis is one thing -- designed to ensure European debt levels never


get this high again. Officials in charge of Tunisia's


historic free and fair elections say the response from voters


exceeded all expectations. The turnout amongst the 4 million


people who registered to vote was more than 90%. Voters are now


electing a new assembly which will rewrite the country's constitution


and appoint an interim President. For the first time in a Tunisian


election, there has been a sense of suspense. Gone are the transparent


envelopes and ballot boxes to ensure voters chose the bright red


cards of President Ben Ali's party. Instead, over 100 political parties


to choose from. And a lot of emotion about having that choice.


So, after the first real vote in the country, there was another


first for Tunisia. A real count. An army of newly trained volunteers,


working across the country, counting votes in the very rooms in


which they were cast, in order to avoid an opportunity for fraud as


they were transported, in trying to get the results out quickly. They


were armed with the new guidelines. This, after all, is an election


that has been set up from scratch in just nine months. Later on


Monday, the Election Commission will announce the official results.


Then, for the assembly, the real work of writing a constitution, and


establishing Tunisia's own brand of democracy really begins.


Still to come, they lived each other's lives for 12 years. We talk


to two Russian girls to have just found out they were swapped at


birth. Let's get the business news. Ben


Thompson is here. Markets are reacting to all this eurozone


crisis, the summit expected on Wednesday again, what have they


been thinking? It has been a bit of a nervous rider for the markets,


reacting to any bit of news that comes out of the eurozone. It seems


there is confidence that a deal will be done ahead of this crucial


summit on Wednesday. Some are calling it nervous and also


cautious optimism, that it might happen. We have heard of this


before. Now suggestions that time is running out. We are also hearing


there are concerns about where this money comes from. There are lot of


fears about where this money will come from for the stability fund,


the EFSF, but also to recapitalise the banks themselves. While the


leaders might be deciding they are going to be put in this money in, a


lot of concerns about where it will come from, and one place it could


come from are the emerging economies. I was told that the


fast-growing economies like China have a role to play. Most of these


emerging markets have a very decent level of debt, a low level of debt


compared to the eurozone. So yes, they have money. But they are also


interested by the business environment. Countries like China


and Brazil, interested in funding a potentially risk free plan for


Europe. These countries' export a lot of raw material to the eurozone.


A eurozone in good shape is very important. We are hearing that


Japan is finally getting back on its feet after what has been a


tough ride in the wake of the earthquake and tsunami, that really


did affect production. We're hearing that exports are rising


2.8% to 78 billion. The importance of manufacturing, and everything


that goes on in Japan, we see it in the UK. The knock-on effect it had


on car-making, for example. One economist told us that the health


of the Japanese economy is vital for the health of Asia as a whole.


Japan is still the third largest economy in the world. We are also a


very large purchase or as well as exporter. Our relationship with


China is very firm, we are complementing each other. It gives


a good buzz to the Asian area, the core of growth we are seeing


throughout the world. The negativity we are seeing is from


the eurozone and also in the United States. This is what those markets


are doing. The FTSE 100, pretty flat on the day. France, Germany


and Italy, reacting to what they hope will be the end of the euro


debt crisis, or hopes that decisions will be made by Wednesday.


Ongoing fears about where that money may come from. More details


You are watching GMT from BBC World News. I am Zeinab Badawi, these are


the top hat lines. The search for survivors continues


in eastern Turkey after an earthquake killed more than 260


people, and many more people remain trapped under the rubble. President


Nicolas Sarkozy of France has angrily accused the British Prime


Minister, David Cameron, of interfering in the eurozone crisis.


He said he is sick of British Let's talk more about those


eurozone discussions. EU leaders are due to meet again on Wednesday,


to try to find a way forward on tackling the eurozone's massive


debt crisis. Robert Peston has joined us. Let's pick up on Nicolas


Sarkozy sounding quite angry with Britain, saying don't interfere,


you are not in the eurozone crisis. How credible is that position?


think it reflects the stress that all eurozone leaders are currently


feeling. Because they are confronting a very serious crisis,


in terms of the eurozone's finances, and they haven't got a solution yet.


I slightly feel that David Cameron, the outburst, was more of a


reflection of his general exasperation. The basic point is


that the UK is not in the eurozone, and boasts how much better of it is


not being in the eurozone, so you can understand why a eurozone


member might say, this is our problem and unless you have


something constructive to say, bolt off, as it were. The other side of


that, there are three elements to the proposed rescue package. One of


those elements is something that affects all European Union members.


It is a strengthening of the banks. There will be 108 billion euros and


new capital injected into the banks as a result of this rescue package.


That element is not just for eurozone banks but banks throughout


the European Union. For that reason, David Cameron has a legitimate


reason to be at the meeting on Wednesday. But that aside, the real


heart of the issue is what France and Germany want to do about


tackling the eurozone crisis, and specifically about Greece boss debt,


because French banks are very exposed to that -- Greece's debt.


We have heard the concern about whether money is coming from for


this rescue. In a fundamental sense, we know it is coming from Germany


and France, there is nowhere else for it to come from. They are very


worried about the scale of liability that would be heaped on


their economy from the other really important element of the rescue


plan, apart from strengthening the banks, which is expanding the size


of this bail-out fund. The bail-out fund does not have enough money


right now to deal with a problem that could easily arise if a


country like Italy was unable to borrow on markets. Italy could


easily be shut out of markets and therefore, to reassure the world's


investors that it really wouldn't topple over, this bail-out fund has


to have its resources multiplied by four or five times -- that it


really wouldn't topple over. They are negotiating the technical


details of how to do it, but it is amazingly difficult to come up with


a plan that wouldn't be perceived of putting too much of a burden on


front. The risk for France is in helping Italy, its own finances


will be perceived to be weaker and it could lose its triple-A rating,


and that would create a whole new series of headaches for the


eurozone. You can see why, coming up with a solution is so difficult,


because one answer tends to create Thank you very much. The world is


watching to see how Libya develops now that Colonel Gaddafi is dead


and the country has been declared liberated. The National


Transitional Council has begun moving its base from Benghazi to


the carpeted, Tripoli and has set itself a deadline of eight Munster


hold its first phase of elections. It's still has to announce the fate


of Colonel Gaddafi's body and there is growing unease that his corpse


is still on display in his rata. -- Ms rata. Any word of when Colonel


Gaddafi's body may be given up? There have been reports that it


might be handed up -- over to his tribe. Absolutely. Those are the


reports that if we are hearing as well. But nothing about the exact


timings. It is now four days since Colonel Gaddafi died. His body is


still lying in that cold storage unit as you say. Libyans continued


to queue up to take mobile phone pictures of themselves with their


former dictator's body. Many of them are having to hold crossover


there Knowles's because of the smell. International concern


continuing over how Colonel Gaddafi died. Was he executed? Was he


caught in the crossfire as had been the official explanation? We have


heard from a chief pathologist. He would be -- will be revealing the


findings as soon as he gets his orders. Everybody is waiting for


that. Inside Libya, talking to the Libyans on the streets, they are


clearing up after the massive jubilant liberation celebrations


yesterday afternoon and last night. They are more focused on the day


today workings of the country. are in Tripoli. The National


Transitional Council has begun moving towards the capital to fully


established themselves as the interim authority. What is their


next move? You are right. To fully establish themselves as the


transitional authority. But who will be the figurehead? Those at


the top of the transitional council up until now always said that after


the formal declaration of liberation, they would stand down.


And there would be discussions to create the new transitional council.


We have heard from the chairman of the best the outgoing chairman


today. He has said just now actually before speaking to you


that they are expecting an announcement on that in a


fortnight's time. And then in eight months' time, the election for a


national council which is expected to draw up a constitution for the


new Libya and which will be put to a referendum in the country. A long


road ahead but Libyans say they are ready for it. Thank you very much.


Still awaiting news on what will happen to Colonel Gaddafi's body.


Next week, the United Nations will announce that the world's


population has reached 7 billion. It is a little more than a decade


since the global population stood at 6 billion. The number of people


on the planet is rising by around 80 million every year. The United


Nations is warning that rapid population growth is threatening


many poorer countries, especially in sub-Saharan Africa. This report


from Zambia in southern Africa. Its population is projected to triple


by 2050. Welcome to the world. Like each and


every one of us, these newborns help make up the 7 billion people


on a our planet. Catherine has just given birth for the 4th time. She


has a daughter. She does not have a name yet. Despite living in poverty,


the parents want more children and they are ambitious for their future.


Translation macro I want my daughter and my sons to become


important people. Then they can help us. But I do not know if there


will be enough people for them all to go through school. Big families


are the norm. Six children is the average. It is causing a huge


increase in numbers. Zambia's population is projected to triple


by 2050 and keep rising. protects you against St eyes and


best -- HIV. That is despite modern contraception methods. They are


available without charge. family planning methods are free


but how facilities, people have to travel to attend those services.


They do not been learned enough. They would rather use the money not


on travelling but to feed the family. This is a youthful country.


Half the population is aged 16 or under. And more and more families


are leaving the countryside to live in the capital. Population growth


can be good for the economy. A young workforce are relatively few


elderly. But the increase is so rapid the fear is it could


perpetuate poverty. Zambia is barely able to feed 30 million


people now so how will it cope with 100 million or more by the end of


the century? And how do you encourage the young


to have fewer children than their parents? Aid agencies say it is


going to start with more rights for women. If you are married to a man


and he wants 10 children, you have no say. Even when you know that


they will not be looked after properly. We need to empower all


men are so that they can make decisions about their lives. --


Women. What things can the new government do for you? And that


begins in the classroom. Attitudes are changing. These teenagers want


Korea's first and motherhood second. I want to children. I want two


children to reduce the population. Zambia is a big country. Three


times the size of Britain. There is plenty of room. But the expanding


population needs more schools, jobs, hospitals and homes if it is to be


lifted from poverty to prosperity. You can follow our special series,


7 billion and counting on the website. Over the next seven days,


we will be travelling to seven different countries looking at the


emerging issues as our global population reaches seven billion.


Now a poignant story about two young girls and their families.


Police in Russia are investigating after it emerged that two babies


have been mixed up at birth 12 years ago. The two families


involved have already lodged a civil case against the hospital.


Family photos normally bring back hammy -- happy memories, but for


this family, the past has turned into a nightmare. They have


discovered that her 12-year-old daughter, the clerk -- the deal she


thought she had given birth to, is not her child. My ex-husband


refused to pay maintenance. I took him to court. But with the DNA


tests, the results were a total surprise. Police believe that 12


years ago, there had been a terrible mix-up at the local


maternity hospital. That two babies had been given the wrong name tags


and the wrong parents. At first, I thought it was a joke, then I could


not stop crying. My whole world had turned upside down. If she had been


given the wrong baby, then where was her real daughter? She was


desperate to find out so she went to the police and they began to


search for her biological child. Within weeks, they had found her,


living just a few miles away, in this house. She had been brought up


a devout Muslim. She thought her father was this man. When the


priest told him about the mistake at the maternity hospital, he did


not want to believe it. detectives showed me a photograph


of the other girl. The one they said was my real daughter. When I


saw her face, it was like seeing myself. The two families are


getting to know each other but after a lifetime apart, it is not


easy. I have tried to show motherly love but she does not accept it.


When your own daughter looks at you like a stranger, that is so painful.


The girls say they did not want to stop parents, they are just happy


to have found each other. -- swapper. We were a bit shy at first


but now we are the best of friends. They were born 15 minutes apart.


With Zeinab Badawi. Turkey is rocked by an earthquake that's killed at least 200 people. We have the latest. Are Europe's leaders any closer to solving the Eurozone crisis after agreeing on the outline of a rescue deal?

And we're live in Libya to discuss the country's democratic future - as well as the unease that Colonel Gaddafi has still not been buried.

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