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After five days in a meat locker, Colonel Gaddafi's body is buried at

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dawn at a secret location. This is thought to be the convoy that took

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him to his final resting place. Libya a's new leader says that

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proper respect were paid at the funeral. The -- Libya's new leaders.

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Welcome to GMT. Also when the programme, a leading charity claims

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that Syrian protesters face intimidation, even in hospital. We

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speak to a doctor who says he has witnessed at first hand.

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And a miraculous story of survival. A tiny baby is called a live from

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the rubble of Sunday's earthquake in eastern Turkey. -- pulled alive.

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It is 12:30pm London, 7:30pm in New York and 1:30pm in the afternoon in

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Libya if, where the body of Colonel Gaddafi has finally been buried.

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The country's new authorities were arguing over what to do next and

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the former leader's body was put on display in Misrata where hundreds

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queued to see it. Gabriel Gatehouse is in Misrata. At last, he has been

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buried. One next? -- what next? They really have drawn a line now

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are putting his body into the ground. By laying his body to rest,

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they're hoping to lay to rest some ghosts here. They're hoping to move

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forward to probably a harder task of rebuilding this country after 42

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years of rule by one man and one man alone. There is a more subdued

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atmosphere in his right to today than there has been in the first

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three a four days after his capture. -- in Misrata. We saw anarchic

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celebrations, people racing through the streets, driving at breakneck

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speeds, letting off fireworks, shooting into the air. That seems

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to have ended now. With the burial of Kroll Gaddafi, people are

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turning soberly towards the business of getting life back to

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normal. -- Colonel Gaddafi. When it came to the discussions about what

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to do with Colonel Gaddafi's body, there were many opinions. Moving

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forward, the international community and the NCC wants to show

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that it is moving forward with a unified purpose. -- NTC. I think

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the discussions we saw, the wrangling over the body, that threw

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into question who was in charge here in Libya. It seemed that the

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fighters who had captured Colonel Gaddafi wanted one thing while the

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politicians in Benghazi, who are supposed to be running this country,

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wanted something else. It was not entirely clear what the focus of

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contention was. I think it was more power politics behind the scene,

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positioning ahead of the elections that we are expecting to see in

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eight months' time, all surrounded by the symbolic war trophy of

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Colonel Gaddafi's body. I think we will see more of that in the months

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to come and in a sense, some will say that is normal, that is OK,

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that is what you do in a democracy. But the worry is that this is a

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country with no experience of political pluralism. When you

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consider that this is a country awash with guns, some people are

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worried about how this will play out. It will certainly be

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interesting. In miraculous story. A 14 day-old

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baby has been brought out alive from the rubble of Sunday's

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earthquake in Turkey. The discovery has fuelled hope among rescue

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workers desperately searching for hundreds of missing people. The

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official death toll has reached 370. 1300 are reported injured.

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Amid the despair and devastation, there are still moments of joy in

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this town. A two-week-old baby, pulled from the rubble. They had

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known she was there but not that she was alive. Her parents are

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thought to be alive also, although trapped. TRANSLATION: Thank God.

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After 48 hours, a baby is alive. I hope the others will come out alive,

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too. Who else is there? My mother, my aunt and my brother. There are

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fewer survivors now. All they can do is keep cutting, breaking down

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the concrete. With a constant audience of townspeople, some of

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them with family members still under the rubble. TRANSLATION: We

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have been waiting here all night. They have been used in small

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pockets. His daughter and son-in- law are buried. He has glimpsed

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scraps of their clothing. The collapse of so many buildings in

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one town has, inevitably, raised questions about how well they were

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built. Tens of thousands of people have lost their homes. There cold

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and hungry. The Turkish government has launched a huge relief

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operation, but it is sometimes pretty chaotic. Life in this town

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has been reduced to a scramble for bread and blankets.

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Tim Willcox is in Ercis. You heard that report, we have heard this

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story of this baby being brought from the rubble. I see the rescue

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workers behind you. Surely this must have generated hope. It has.

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It has given them a boost, because of a night when we have been

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watching them, all they have been doing is bringing down bodies. This

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two-week-old baby, born one month premature, so remarkable survival

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story. She seems to be in good condition and is now in hospital.

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The rescue teams are concentrating on the mother and grandmother. The

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only potential tragic twist to this one family's survival story could

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be that they have not been able to speak to the father, trapped inside

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the building as well. They spoke to him a few errors ago but have not

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been able to recently and there are concerns about him. -- a few hours

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ago. If you look at the street, there is this building where the

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baby was found. 22 families live here, under maybe 40 or 50 people

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trapped. -- and there may be 40 or 50 people trapped. The rescue work

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has to continue painstakingly. Alongside the building, a block of

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flats, completely intact, with no physical damage at all. One of the

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big questions for the people of this town, after the dead and

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survivors had been found, how are they going to clamp down on shoddy

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building? How were they going to ensure that building regulations in

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an earthquake zone are adhere too, because if they are not, these are

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the tragic consequences. Thank you very much. Some of the

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other stories making headlines around the world today. Tunisia's

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Islamic party, Ennahda, has claimed victory in the country's first

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democratic elections and pledged to create a multi-party secular

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democracy. Early indications are that they have won most of the

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votes in the poll for an assembly that will draft a new constitution.

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Official results are expected later. The United Nations Secretary

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General, Ban Ki-Moon says he is worried about the implications for

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the UN's cultural agency UNESCO if a Palestinian request for full

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membership is granted. Acceptance could lead to the loss of funding

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from the United States. The Palestinian Authority is home to

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pilgrimage sites like Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, revered as

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the birthplace of Jesus. The United States and North Korea

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have completed a first day of talks in Geneva aimed at restarting

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negotiations over North Korea's nuclear programme. Negotiations

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broke down in 2009. One month later, North Korea tested a second nuclear

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weapon leading to an increase in tension across the Korean peninsula.

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Interest in these talks is huge. After all, the stakes are high.

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North Korea has already tested two nuclear weapons. Some believe it is

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preparing to test a third. Both the US and North Korea say that they

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want to resume formal negotiations on ending Pyongyang's nuclear

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programme. But they disagree on how. North Korea has suggested they

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restart without preconditions. The United States wants a firm

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commitment from Pyongyang to disarm before sitting down at the

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negotiating table. That is why these talks are being described

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modestly as exploratory. Nevertheless, the first few hours

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seem to have been at least friendly. The US and North Korean delegations

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met this morning for two hours. We had a coffee break and initial

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presentations. I think these were used for presentations. The fact

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that the two sites are talking is regarded as a big improvement on

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the dark days of 2009, when a deal to disarm North Korea broke down.

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Just one month later, Pyongyang tested its second nuclear weapon,

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and then launched artillery shells along its disputed border with

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South Korea. Recently, there has been something of a diplomatic fall.

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The North and South Korean foreign ministers met in July for the first

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time in three years. -- four. Meanwhile, China, key player in any

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formal agreement has sent its vice- premier to Pyongyang to encourage

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North Korea to negotiate. The Geneva talks continue on Tuesday.

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Andy Oppenheimer is a defence consultant and editor of chemical

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and biological warfare. He is in our studio. This is a case of

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brinkmanship when it comes to these talks. They are very tense, and

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that is not going to change, is it? Absolutely right. It seems like we

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have been here before. There is a dance going on with the stop-start,

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similar to Iran, but not quite the same, with North Korea. They want

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to exact all sorts of conditions from the West and from the region,

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and they would use of the Renaissance nuclear programmes, and

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there are two now, uranium as well as plutonium, in order to try to

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exert some muscle on their neighbours and on the US. But China

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is keeping them within some sort of holding position, because they have

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a strong vested interest in keeping North Korea at bay. How much

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patience is their internationally to come to some sort of agreement?

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How much willingness or determination is there to crack a

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deal? I think under the new administration, the Alabama

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administration, there is far more desire to do a diplomatic deal with

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North Korea. -- Obama administration. It is really a "You

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do this and we will do that". It just goes on. They want to stop

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them doing tests of missiles and of these kind of rudimentary nuclear

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weapons that they have. They want them to stop developing the uranium

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plant and also to, basically, just give up the plutonium stocks as

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well. It is dealing with an unusual country which does not really deal

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in the same way as the rest of the world. And so it's a case of, in

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terms of getting the talks going again, if we could get the talks

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going again, it could all stall once again. It really depends on, I

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suppose, the sort of conditions occurring inside the country. It is

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very poor and it has kept going because of China. It has had helps

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from Russia in terms of its nuclear programme in the past. -- help from

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Russia. Obviously, it wants to show that it can exert a particular kind

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of dominance over the region but I like in North Korea to a noisy

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neighbour. You complain to the council about them being a nuisance

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and the council comes round and declares a sort of anti-social

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behaviour order on them, and then three weeks later when everything's

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quietened down, they just start off again. It seems a bit like that.

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This has been going on now since 2002. They still haven't really

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prove themselves as a real nuclear weapon state, but I must hasten to

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add that one of the big problems with North Korea is proliferation.

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They proliferate their technologies and they have strong links with

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Iran, and this is one of the big problems of trading around the

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world under all sorts of false manifests and third-party shipments

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and all the rest of it, a fading the rules, which the United States

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is erecting all kinds of schemes to protect the ports around the world,

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to monitor what is going on, and sees shipments on the high seas.

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This has been going on for six or seven or eight years. Andy

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Oppenheimer, thank you for your thoughts. We will keep a close eye

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on these talks. Still to come: Concern about a lack

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of fresh water in one of the driest countries in the Middle East. How

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All the business news now. BP, one we're keeping an eye on. This is in

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the wake of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. Expectations weren't high

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about what BP would report. We've heard that third quarter profits

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have come in at $5.1 billion, up from �1.85 on the same period last

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year. Markets had been expecting profits to fall around 11 fers.

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We've heard from the boss of BP today, Bob Dudley. He is marking

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this as a big turning point for the firm. He is outlining the plans

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that they're selling off more assets, from $30 million to $45 to

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pay compensation and pay out for claims. Many are saying this is a

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good news day. It's drawn a line under the worst of this affair.

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We've heard from a lot of analysts who say this is now the best way to

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draw a line under the worst of the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.

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Their recent agreement with Anadarko petroleum, means that they

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were able to claw back about $4 billion in costs. So in doing so,

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they believe they'll be able to end payments into the oil spill trust

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fund a year ahead of schedule. news day for BP. We've been hearing

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from the boss throughout the day, very keen to draw a line under the

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worst of this. Whenever I talk about banks, you can imagine, it's

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been traumatic over the past few months, so the results are coming

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through. UBS was a good result earlier today. Deutsche has

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reported. Can it be two good results in one day from European

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banks? The UBS story, despite the rogue trader scandal, profits there

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better than many expected. It's Deutsche we're keeping an eye on.

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It's Germany's biggest bank. What it does represents the sentiments

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of German banks to the eurozone. The boss telling us it's been the

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most difficult trading period for the bank since the end of 2008.

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We've heard from a whole raft of people today about that. This is

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what one analyst had to say. They took the step of buying the

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Deutsche Pos bank, which required a rights issue of about 13 billion

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euros. A couple of figures that stick out, the provisions for

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credit losses are up from 463 million euros from 382, to a total

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for the nine months of 1.3 billion. I suspect a fair old bit of that is

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Greece. Well, of course, all eyes are on the eurozone now about what

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happened before the big crucial EU summit. Fingers crossed. Ben,

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thanks. We want to hear what you think. Get in touch: The best way

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is to go to the website bbc.co.uk/GMT.

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This is GMT from BBC World News. I'm Naga Munchetty. The headlines

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this hour: The body of former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has

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been take ton a secret location and buried, so say NTC officials. As

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the search for survivors of Sunday's earthquake continues in

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eastern Turkey, a two weekend -- week old baby is found alive in the

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rubble. Human rights campaigners say many

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Syrians, injured in anti-government protests, are too afraid to go to

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hospitals, this after some reports that many have been arrested there

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or tortured. Amnesty International says it has eyewitness accounts of

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wounded people being removed from government hospitals and of medical

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workers, who treated them, being arrested and tortured. Cilina

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Nasser is Middle East and north African researcher at Amnesty

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International. She spoke of how prevalent the fear is.

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information we got is from health professionals working in the

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government-run hospitals as well as residents specifically in Homs. The

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reason for that is wounded people, when they go to the hospitals, it's

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a way, the hospitals is used to, hospitals are used to identify who

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is opposed to the government, rather than provide the necessary

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treatment. So, the Ministry of Health has instructed hospitals to

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report wounded persons to the authorities. This means that they

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are putting wounded persons at risk of arrest and torture. I can now

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speak to Dr Ahmad who says he witnessed ill treatment bit Syrian

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forces in his nopt Homs. He left the country in July this year in

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Saudi Arabia and lives in Riyadh. Thank you very much for speaking to

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me today. Describe to me what protesters are afraid of, when it

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comes to the fact if they're injured in demonstrations, what are

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they afraid of might happen in these hospitals? Yeah, a patient

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cannot go to the hospital, because they are afraid from arresting them

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inside government hospitals. Sorry, could you explain in a little more

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detail, any examples that you have seen. I will give you two examples:

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One, a 14 years old boy was injured. Then a male nurse was hitting him.

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I said you have to stop. Our job is to treat them, not to punish them.

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I told the manager of the hospital about the accident and he didn't

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punish him. Also this nurse told the security forces about that I am

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supporting the demonstration against the regime. That's an

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example. What happened when the authorities were told that you were

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supporting or you were an ti regime? I am not, I am just helping

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people and I am trying to treat them, because that's my job only. I

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have no connection with no-one. What are the conditions like in the

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hospitals now? Where should protesters go, if they're afraid of

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government hospitals? Some injured people went to a special hospitals

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outside government hospitals, but also, they got problems. Once I was

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in an operation room in a hospital, suddenly three men, three forces

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men entered the operation room with their weapons, with no respect for

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the operation. They took details of the patient. We went out. My

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friends were so confused about this situation. Some people they

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bleeding until they die because they're afraid to go hospitals or

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they go to some houses and they call some doctors to help them

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there. In hospitals outside any hospital. You have spoken about how

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protesters are treated. How are doctors and nurses treated by the

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authorities? Yeah, some nurses hitting patients, talking to them

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with very, very bad words. But are there any threats to doctors and

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nurses from the authorities? Excuse me? Are there any threats to the

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safety of doctors and nurses from the authorities? I didn't

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understand that question. OK. I'm sorry. We are out of time. Dr Ahmad

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thank you so much for giving us your experiences. It's good to hear

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from you. You're welcome. Now the world's population has

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officially passed the seven billion mark. The BBC has a series now,

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special reports from seven countries in seven continents.

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Jordan in s one country which in the words of its own government, is

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facing a crisis, due to its rapidly rising population. Also of concern

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is the lack of fresh water. As one of the dryest countries in the

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Middle East its already depleted supply is dangerous low.

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Against the odds he farms this arid land, where his crops lack much of

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the water they need. With no other supply, the family buys their water

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from a private company. But the price keeps on rising and business

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is drying up. TRANSLATION: Some people depend on

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farming F they stop, they won't be able to support their families. We

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have high levels of unemployment. We are a poor country. The older

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generations also want to keep alive the traditions of farming. They

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won't give it up easily. Like others in Jordan, he depends

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on the endless flow of lorries, which transport this country's

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liquid gold. This is private water. Commercially owned wells have

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become the source for many businesses and homes. We are living

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in a water crisis. We have the royal committee on water and that

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committee developed the water strategy for the country. If that

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strategy is implemented, we will be in a few years, well off. But

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unless that strategy is implemented, the crisis will intensify and the

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situation will be more severe in the country. Jordan's population,

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with its steady flow of refugees, is using ever more of this vital

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resource. Despite government initiatives to extract new

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resources, a bad situation is getting even worse. Farming in this

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desert-like landscape has always been a challenge, but as water

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becomes more scarce, and is shared by more people, the hieflloods of

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farmers here will only become -- livelihoods of farmers will only

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become more uncertain. There used to be sheep, but now this hut full

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of chickens, along with a few rabbits are only animals left. He

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says the government should supply what is his farm's lifeblood. For

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now, though, he has no plans to leave this troubled way of life in

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this inhospitalable land. You can follow our special series,

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seven billion and counting, online. All this week we're travelling to

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seven different countries looking at seven different people to

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explore the emerging issues as our global population has reached the

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seven billion mark. We're come together end of GMT.

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Before we go, let me remind you of this miraculous story, amid a scene

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of devastation. A two week old baby has been pulled alive from the

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