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the Secretary of State for Wales, Alun Cairns. Order. Order. On

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today's order paper, it is noted that on 20th may 1917, Major

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Ballantyne Fleming C Squadron, the Queens own Oxfordshire has ours was

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killed in action in France. On seven to June 1917, Major Willie Redmond,

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6th Battalion Royal Irish Regiment, member for clear East, died of

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wounds received during the Battle -- in a battle in Belgium. We remember

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them today. Order. Questions to the Secretary of State for Wales.

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Secretary Alun Cairns. Thank you. On this last Welsh questions before the

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general election, can I pay particular tribute to two Welsh

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stars at the weekend. Josh Griffiths, a Swansea Harriers

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runner, the first Briton to cross the finish line at the London

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Marathon, but particularly to Matthew Rees, who helped a fellow

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runner over the closing stages of the London Marathon. The Prime

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Minister has made clear that we will work to secure benefits to all parts

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of the United Kingdom. Wales is a dynamic, vibrant, innovative country

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and is prepared to make a success of the opportunities ahead. Brexit may

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have a very negative impact on jobs in Wales. So the proposal to build a

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category C prison in my constituency is welcome in principle, but it is

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difficult to understand why the Baglan energy Park has been selected

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as a site for that prison, and it is more difficult to understand why the

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prisons minister has not had the courtesy to reply to my letter of

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the 23rd of March. Will he please encourage his friend the prison

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minister to check his letters, and will he also guaranteed that the

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community will be fully consulted? He is absolutely right, there are

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record employment data in Wales, record low levels of unemployment in

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Wales, so although the prison will be a further boost to the honourable

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member's constituency. The site was selected in support of the Welsh

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government after consultation. Wales has a number of technological

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hotspots around Cardiff and elsewhere. Does he not think they

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will benefit after Brexit from bilateral trade deals that will be

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-- we will be able to make with the United States, Canada, and the

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European Union? He shows a great interest in Wales and knows a lot

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about the Welsh economy. But he talks about how high-tech sectors,

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and we have seen some dynamics. The Secretary of State for defence and I

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were there a few weeks ago, on the day we handed over a hand to Aston

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Martin. These are providing new opportunities. Welsh manufacturers

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and farmers will lose the solid protections offered by the block.

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Why does he not come clean today and admit it is the intention of the

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Tories to sell those producers down the river? The honourable member

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will recognise that exports from Wales have grown over the last year.

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They have grown significantly by 6.2%, something that we welcome. He

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will also recognise the data of record levels of employment and low

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levels of unemployment. People recognise we want the clearest open

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trading arrangements we can in support of Welsh producers. Can he

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confirmed that rural areas of Wales will be placed front and centre in a

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post Brexit Britain? Can I pay tribute to the work my honourable

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friend does in relation to supporting the rural economy in his

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constituency in particular. We maintain a close relationship with

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farming unions in Wales, most of the meetings take place in his

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constituency and that demonstrates the active relationship we have with

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key stakeholders and the Welsh government. How did he respond to

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the farming unions request for a full assessment on the impact of

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Welsh agriculture should we be in the possession of falling back on

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World Trade Organisation tariffs? 40% tariffs will destroy Welsh

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agriculture. I am disappointed with the approach he is taking. He is

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assuming the worst case scenario. We're having this general election

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to have strong and stable leadership in the challenging negotiations

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ahead. There are 27 EU nations that will be challenging everything as we

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negotiate to leave the European Union. Strong and stable leadership

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is needed more than ever. If the honourable gentleman is so keen on

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listening to Welsh farmers, can he tell us why the government are

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refusing to agree with the farmers union in Wales, why will these

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powers of agriculture not be devolved to the Welsh government? I

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am sure she will recognise we engage closely with the NFU before the

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drafting of the Great Repeal Bill White Paper. The DEFRA Secretary of

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State also met the farming unions to consider how best placed ER. The

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absolutely supportive in the position we have taken up the White

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Paper. The Prime Minister has said she is prepared to walk away from

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the negotiating table without a trade deal with the EU. The Foreign

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Secretary said no deal would be no problem, and yet no deal has

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incurred tariffs up 30 to 40% in deviant meat producers, and 10% on

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car manufacturers. Isn't it the case this Tory Government is prepared to

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play fast and loose with the Welsh government, putting livelihoods at

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risk. -- the Welsh agriculture industry. We want the strongest most

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open agreement, and it seems that the real investors are taking us on

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our ambition. We have seen a major investment from title to and Nissan,

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and with Aston Martin. That demonstrates their confidence in our

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vision as we leave the European Union. I will answer question two,

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seven and ten together. Wales remains the same outward looking

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global country we have always been. Aston Martin has chosen to invest in

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Wales as a result of the great work done by the Department of

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International trade and the Welsh government. Wales continues to be a

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great investment destination. Welsh food and drink exports to the

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European Union will face eye watering tariffs upon leaving the

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single market. Will he guarantee that as part of the WTO deal, the

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home market will not be flooded with food imports such as Australian

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meets? Here's peddling scare stories. When it comes to Lamb, New

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Zealand currently does not even meet its quota to the European Union.

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Only 70% of the New Zealand Coulthard is currently maintained.

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He should have some confidence in Welsh agriculture produce good

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rather than speaking down about the prospects of the economy. I would

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have more confidence if he answered the question. On Monday I visited

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one of the largest and most successful high-tech businesses in

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Wales. They told me that post Brexit, they are hoping against hope

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to be able to export to the European partners as at present, without all

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the red tape and expense of being outside the customs union. Why is

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this hard Brexit government determined to make life more

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difficult for key exporters? Again he is highlighting the negativity

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surrounding this issue, but it is one that I do not recognise. It is

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also not recognised by businesses in Wales, and negativity not

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highlighted by businesses in Wales. They are looking to global future,

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and we will secure the greatest possible access to the European

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market, and will also look into global trade deals ensuring Wales is

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part of global growth as well as maintaining a European market. Wales

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has huge potential in terms of export and trading opportunities and

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the Department of International trade is an important tool for those

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companies in Wales looking to expand overseas. How was the Minister

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ensuring that Wales are central to the work of that department and his

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department? The Department didn't and traders crucial component of the

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ways in which we can support Welsh businesses, and the Wales Office is

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working very closely with the Department. We had an exports

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conference in Cardiff on the 6th of March, which was extremely well

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attended, where the opportunities available to Welsh businesses in the

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European Union and globally were highlighted, and that meeting was a

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huge success. My honourable friend will agree, I am sure, but there is

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much common ground between Cornwall and Wales, with the opportunities

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that the export of goods, high-quality goods, and services

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across the globe are presented by Brexit. What advice can he share

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with businesses across my constituency as we begin the

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negotiations to leave the European Union? Thanks for the question. She

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is correct, there is a lot in common between Wales and Cornwall, not

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least the language. Businesses in Cornwall should do the same as

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businesses in Wales, they should engage with the Department for rent

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at the trade, look at the opportunity to launch aid missions,

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identify new markets. There are opportunities they are and we need

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to exploit them. They rely on British employees

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moving and working across Europe when we leave Europe. The guarantee

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we can offer to anyone who wants to work across Europe is that this

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Government will listen to them and act on their behalf. We have no

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interest in doing anything other than fully supporting companies such

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as Airbus which is such a key component of the economy of north

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Wales. We need to have proper infrastructure. Will the minister

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congratulate the Welsh Government for putting in additional funds,

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will he work with them to ensure that places remain the heart of the

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British Isles because of their close proximity to Ireland and the rest of

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Europe? He is right. The Secretary of State visited Holyhead with the

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honourable gentleman and he is right to highlight that Wales is in a very

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fortunate position. We have two governments that can work for the

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benefit of our economy and cooperation between the UK

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Government and Welsh have meant following developers such as

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Holyhead is absolutely crucial for the way forward after Brexit. With

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permission, I will answer questions three, four, five and 11 together.

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To provide the greatest level of legal and administrative certainty

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upon leaving the European Union, the Government will replicate the

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current frameworks. In parallel, we will bring discussions with the

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devolved administrations to identify where common frameworks should be

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retained. We expect the outcome of this to be significant increase in

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the decision-making power of the devolved administrations. Accepting

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the minister's request to be positive, would he agree with me

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that the best way forward for Welsh farmers and Scottish farmers is for

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responsibility for financial subsidy arrangements to be transferred to

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the Welsh and Scottish assemblies? Naturally, the UK Government will

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continue to engage positively with the Scottish Government as well as

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the Welsh Government, but I'm sure the honourable member will agree

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that protecting the integrity of the UK market must be fundamental to

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that discussion. Because clearly Scottish farmers would sell more to

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the UK than they well elsewhere. Wales has consistently voted for the

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governance of their own country and to transfer responsibility away from

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Westminster and closer to the people in Wales. Come the Secretary of

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State give a concrete guarantee there will be no such attempts to

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undermine devolution relating to any of the devolved governments? I wish

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to highlight one of the achievements of this Parliament, is to pass the

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latest Government of Wales act 2017, which enhanced powers even further

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in a whole range of areas. That demonstrates our stance on

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devolution, which is to trust the people. Plaid Cymru and the SNP will

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defend against the Tory Government's plans... To use the Great Repeal

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Bill to undermine devolved Government might not passing on

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powers from Brussels. What guarantees can he make that Wales

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and Scotland are repatriated all powers in its devolved governments

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and that these are not absorbed by the Westminster machine? As powers

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are repatriated from the European Union, it is vital that we provide

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communities with as much certainty and security as possible. We need to

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protect the integrity of the UK market. We need to work with

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devolved administrations in order to construct common standards and

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common frameworks in order to support them. After a decade of Tory

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rule in Westminster... In section 4.2 of the Great Repeal Bill, about

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taking transport away from the people of Wales. Can he tell us what

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he is doing to ensure that the people of Wales and their interests

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are not forgotten? The Government will continue to engage with the

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Welsh Government but we will also continue to engage with

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stakeholders, and the stakeholders across agriculture, business,

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commerce, have all supported the Great Repeal Bill's stance, to

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replicate the powers on a temporary basis until we can come to

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agreements with devolved administrations on where those

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powers... My right honourable friend will be aware that the setting of

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business rates in Wales is now devolved. Would he share my concern

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is that small business rates relief scheme in Wales is less generous

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than that in England? He is absolutely right and I can well

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remember walking the high street in Prestatyn recently, where business

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rates was highlighted as a major concern to stomach the small shops

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on that high street. He is right but the Chancellor in the recent budget

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enhanced the Welsh settlement significantly as a result of

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supporting small business rates in England, and I would hope that the

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Welsh Government would support small businesses in Wales. I have been an

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MP for two years and I have seen two secretaries of state and five Shadow

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secretaries of states giving my country crumbs. When will he

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announce a Wales bill that brings power back to Wales? The honourable

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member will appreciate that we have said with the Great Repeal Bill

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White Paper that no decisions committee taken by the Welsh

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allotment will be taken from them. We expect repatriation of powers

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from the European union will extend the powers of the Welsh Government

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significantly, but of course there is a power to work through to

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provide the certainty and stability that industry needs. I thank the

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Labour MPs for all the support, particularly the Welsh Labour MPs.

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The Welsh Labour Government tells me that the joint ministerial committee

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is not listening or responding to the voices of the devolved

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administrations. It is not fit for purpose. Does the Secretary of State

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agree that they should be given statutory powers so the Great Repeal

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Bill will not in anyway rewrite devolution as setup in the recent

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Government of Wales act? I thank her for her time as shadow Secretary of

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State for Wales. I underlined the importance of the role of the joint

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ministerial committee. Clearly, there is an awful lot of discussion

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that takes place in the interests of the whole of the United Kingdom and

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we feel that there may well be the potential to develop further but a

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statute for this is not the answer. Thank you. The chapter in the Brexit

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White Paper on securing trade deals with other countries contained no

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mention of Wales whatsoever. What influence will be Secretary of State

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give the Welsh Government to do something about this so that Wales

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is not just an afterthought? He will recognise that the joint ministerial

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committees for Wales and the Welsh Government is being represented, but

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I have made it a determination to engage proactively with the

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stakeholders in Wales because they equally share a view that is not

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always consistent with that of the Welsh Government, so therefore, in

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the Great Repeal Bill White Paper, they have a direct input into that

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through my office. Number six. With permission, I will answer questions

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six and eight together. We are delivering a strategy that is truly

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UK wide and build on our strengths and proposals for the years ahead.

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It is important that the economy works for everyone, delivers

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well-paid skilled jobs and allows businesses to prosper and grow

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across the UK. That we are doing. I thank my honourable friend for that

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answer. The industrial strategy in the Cardiff city deal demonstrates

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the strong and stable Government that the people of sideways note --

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people of south Wales need. It is delivering sustainable jobs. Bye-bye

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honourable friend agree? I couldn't do anything other than agreed with

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my honourable friend, who is a fantastic champion for the city of

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Cardiff. It is a world-class resource where Wales leads the globe

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and we could do so much more with the support of the UK Government

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working with the Welsh Government. And the minister outlined what

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response he has had from businesses and organisations across Wales since

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the launch of the industrial strategy consultation? And how is he

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ensuring that Welsh interests are front and centre of this tragedy as

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he goes forward? I thank my right honourable friend for the question,

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and the response from stakeholders across Wales has been truly superb.

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The engagements that the Wales Office has has with businesses and

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industry across Wales has been second to non-. Their response to

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the industrial strategy is clear. They want is to support research and

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innovation. That is exactly the type of priorities we have in our

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industrial strategy. The medal for Cardiff North its right to be

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concerned about unequal treatment under his Government's industrial

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strategy for Wales, because there has been silence about Bridgend and

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forward compared with Nissan in the north-east. Can he at the dispatch

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box guaranteed that fought in South Wales can get extracted the same

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treatment -- guarantee that Ford cars in South Wales can get exactly

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the same treatment as Nissan? We are in regular discussions with Ford

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cars in Bridgend. The discussions are ongoing and constructive and

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involved the Welsh Government as well. Our commitment is that

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Bridgend remains a car producing area. The Welsh Labour Government

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has proven that lasting economic success only comes through continued

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investment in Welsh industry and infrastructure. Is there any chance

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of progress on the electrification of the great Western Railway to

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Swansea, the north Wales growth plan and an HS2 hub before Brexit? She is

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right that investment and infrastructure is crucial. That is

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why the Welsh have meant gets on with it. But in relation to the

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infrastructure, electric trains will be on their way to Swansea before

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the end of the year. The business we have accrued will be absolutely

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crucial to the developments in north Wales. Speak about Mr Stephen Crabb.

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Over the last seven years we have given new powers to the Welsh

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Government... CHEERING

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We have given new powers to the Welsh Labour Government and need

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money precisely to get on and improve transport in Wales. But we

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have seen near zero progress on the big projects like improving the M4

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around Newport. Who does he think is responsible for holding Wales back

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and watch with voters do about it on the 8th of June? -- what should

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voters do? The fiscal framework which has been agreed between the UK

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and Welsh Government has been described as a game changer. It

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means that Wales is no longer underfunded, unlike the 13 years

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when there was a Labour Government. People should look at those roads

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and should point the finger of blame at the Labour Government in Cardiff.

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He said there would be electric trains going to Swansea. It is not

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an electrified line. When will he electrified the line? The honourable

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gentleman should be aware that ?5 million has been put towards the

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city deal in Cardiff, which will be crucial for the electrification of

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those lines. We have also done work... I will say one thing. You

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are the party that electrified not a single mile of Railtrack in Wales in

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13 years. I have been in close discussions with Cabinet colleagues

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about our response to the Hendry Review, which we are considering.

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Any potential energy project that could deliver clean energy mix for

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the UK is whether of consideration. It must also deliver value for money

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for the taxpayer. The Henry report... Swansea has the second

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highest rise and fall of tide in the world. We should be harnessing it.

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Can we see this is part of the Conservative manifesto in this

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general election? He right in recognising the natural resources in

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Wales and had they can play a significant part in the energy mix

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to the whole of the UK. We would like to see this type of project

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succeed but it needs to be value for money for the taxpayer. Why is he so

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reluctant to embrace what is Wales' Northsea power in tidal energy,

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which is entirely predictable eternal and would provide a bonanza

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of jobs? The honourable member I hope will recognise it was this

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Government's early actions in 2015 to provide planning permission for

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the project he highlights, and we would like this type of project to

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succeed but it has to be value for money. But over and above

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everything, we need strong and stable leadership to provide the

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economic security to pay for any such project. Question number... 12.

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I defer my honourable member to the answer I gave earlier to the member

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for Cardiff North and North West Cambridgeshire. Does the minister

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agree with me that the importance of linking north Wales with the

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powerhouse is crucial? We have a great relationship with the Northern

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Powerhouse and a deal is essential for north Wales because the Northern

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Powerhouse needs north Wales and vice versa. We will ensure that that

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happens if we are re-elected. Would build no roads and no railways. --

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warm words build no roads and no railways. We have had enough of warm

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words from this Government. What we want is investment in north Wales.

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For the first time. Show us the money! I'm disappointed that promise

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from the honourable member who was at a meeting with me yesterday with

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the Transport Minister. He should highlight the huge investment in

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Wrexham which is creating jobs and has been seen as an example of how

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to do public sector investment in Wales and the UK. Order. Questions

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to the Prime

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