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Next don't that is extraordinarily
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I would like to make a further
statement on the parole board | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
decision to release John Worboys. I
know the victims have suffered | 0:00:20 | 0:00:28 | |
considerable trauma. The prospect of
the release of this man is deeply | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
concerning to them, to members of
this House and to members of the | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
wider public. I believe I omit to
those victims and the public to | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
consider all the options open to me
as Secretary of State for Justice. I | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
took the step of seeking legal
advice from specialist leading | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
counsel to establish whether there
were grounds to challenge this | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
decision in the courts and to ask
the courts to stop the release of | 0:00:51 | 0:00:59 | |
Worboys before the decision was
reconsidered. Let me set out my | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
approach to judicial review in
general. There should not be a | 0:01:01 | 0:01:09 | |
challenge that has no reasonable
prospect of success. It is right | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
that public bodies can be held to
account for their actions through | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
due process of law and specifically
judicial review. There has been | 0:01:15 | 0:01:21 | |
significant public debate about the
possible basis for a legal challenge | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
in a case such as this. It has been
speculated that there are two | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
grounds open to me to challenge such
a decision. The decision was one | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
that nobody could reasonably have
taken, or that there were | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
considerable procedural failings in
the way that that decision was | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
taken. The bar for a judicial review
to succeed is very high. The test | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
for deciding if a decision is
unreasonable is not simply that the | 0:01:44 | 0:01:50 | |
decision maker, in this case the
parole board, could have made an | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
alternative decision, but that no
reasonable person would have come to | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
the same conclusion on the facts
upper case. Similarly, on procedure, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
it would be necessary to identify
failing to follow that process by | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
the parole board that would have had
a material impact on the decision. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:14 | |
Having taken considered an expert
legal advice, I have decided that it | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
would not be appropriate for me as
Secretary of State to proceed with | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
such a case. Honourable members will
appreciate that I can go further and | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
expose details of the legal advice I
have been given. I know this will | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
disappoint the victims in this case
and members of this House. Given the | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
crimes for which he has been
convicted, on a personal level, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
candidly, I share those concerns. I
have taken a close personal interest | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
in this case since assuming office
as the Secretary of State for | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
Justice. I believe it is important
that all the victims have clarity as | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
soon as possible, which is why I am
before the House today. I can | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
reassure the House and the public
that Worboys will not be released | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
until his licence conditions have
been finalised. I understand that | 0:03:01 | 0:03:10 | |
contact with victims has taken place
this week, and further meetings | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
about his release will take place
next week. This will have given | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
those victims the opportunity to
make representations to the parole | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
board as to the conditions to which
Worboys should be subject on | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
release. Let me be absolutely clear,
Worboys will not be released until | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
their representations have been
properly considered and his licence | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
conditions are in place. Indeed,
last week, I asked for assurances | 0:03:36 | 0:03:41 | |
that the views of victims were being
taken into account and that robust | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
licensing conditions would be put in
place to manage his risk. I am aware | 0:03:45 | 0:03:52 | |
that some third parties have
indicated that they are seeking to | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
bring legal proceedings themselves,
and that correspondence has been | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
served on me as Secretary of State
as a potential interested party to | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
any litigation. I fully support the
right of victims to take their own | 0:04:03 | 0:04:10 | |
legal advice and to challenge the
decision. The approach I'm taking | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
does not mean that others who may
have significant interest in the | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
case are precluded from taking
action. Each case depends on the | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
circumstances of each individual
ringing a claim. And that is one of | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
the reason I do not intend to save
more on this matter. I would not | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
want to prejudice any legal
challenges by commenting further on | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
the facts of the particular case or
the legal advice I have received. I | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
will be taking advice on how my
department should consequently | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
engage in any proceedings, but it
would not be appropriate to comment | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
further at this stage. It is vitally
important that the public and | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
victims have confidence in the
justice system that is there to | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
serve them. This case has exposed
some issues with the parole process | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
as a whole. I have already indicated
that aspects of the parole process | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
more generally should be examined.
In my statement on the 9th of | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
January, I said my department would
review the case for transparency in | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
the review parole board decisions,
how victims are communicated with, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
and how they are appropriately
engaged in that process. I now | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
believe that review should go
further. I have therefore expanded | 0:05:19 | 0:05:25 | |
the terms of reference of the review
to consider guidance in practice on | 0:05:25 | 0:05:32 | |
parole board decision making. I have
published these today and have | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
placed a copy in the catlike house
library. I have expanded the review | 0:05:36 | 0:05:42 | |
to consider whether there should be
a mechanism to allow parole | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
decisions to be reconsidered, and
how that might best be achieved | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
whilst retaining the independence of
the decision-making process. This | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
review remains a priority for me and
the Government. Despite the | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
significant expansion of the terms
of reference, I intend to complete | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
that review before Easter. I also
acknowledge the concerns that the | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
victim contact scheme operated by
the National probation service may | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
not have worked as well as it should
have in this particular case. It is | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
right that as well as looking at the
process around parole decisions for | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
all cases that we consider whether
existing processes were followed in | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
this instance. I have therefore ask
Dame Glenna Stacey, Her Majesty's | 0:06:24 | 0:06:31 | |
Chief Inspector of probation, to
conduct a rapid fact-finding | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
exercise to find out whether the
existing processes, policies and so | 0:06:36 | 0:06:43 | |
forth were adequately followed by
the parole board in this case. Her | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
findings will inform the wider
review. Mr Speaker, as I have said, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
I know members of the House are
concerned about this case and how we | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
deal with the release of offenders.
I hope this has reassured all | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
members of the thorough and careful
consideration I have made this | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
difficult case, and that we are now
giving serious and urgent | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
consideration to ways in which the
process can be improved that | 0:07:06 | 0:07:13 | |
reassures not only the victims of
these terrible crimes but the wider | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
public. Thank you very much, Mr
Speaker. I thank the Secretary of | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
State for prior sight of his
statement. Two weeks ago it was | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
announced that John Worboys would be
released from prison. In those two | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
weeks, it has been absolutely clear,
the victims of the vile crimes | 0:07:30 | 0:07:37 | |
committed by Worboys feel that our
criminal justice as has let them | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
down. Our system must ensure that it
has the victims of crime at its | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
core. When it fails to do so, it
affects not just the direct victims | 0:07:46 | 0:07:52 | |
themselves but risks undermining
wider public trust in our justice | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
system. As Labour has reiterated
since the news of the release of | 0:07:55 | 0:08:05 | |
John Worboys was announced, it is
important that the Secretary of | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
State does everything in his
power... Many will be disappointed | 0:08:09 | 0:08:19 | |
by today's news. It is understood
that legal advice can't be shared, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:25 | |
and the minister does not want to
prejudice other cases being brought. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
But today's news makes the need for
changes in the parole board even | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
more pressing. The current rules
permit either the Secretary of State | 0:08:33 | 0:08:39 | |
for victims to bring judicial
review. Many will have seen that | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
they are doing and that they have
attracted much public support for | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
their fundraising for this. Judicial
review is a key tool for every | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
citizen to be able to challenge
unjust or unlawful decisions by the | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
state or other public bodies. Cuts
to legal aid have undermined the | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
ability of many to pursue judicial
review. I would request that the | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
Government today use its review into
this to see how it can support | 0:09:05 | 0:09:13 | |
judicial review. Any judicial review
would look at whether the parole | 0:09:13 | 0:09:19 | |
board decision was taken properly.
If not, it would go back to the | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
parole board to look at this again.
As it stands, the current rules mean | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
that we would not know the reasons
for any subsequent parole board | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
decision. As we have repeatedly said
on the side of the Us, there is no | 0:09:31 | 0:09:39 | |
need to debate whether there is a
case for greater transparency. It | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
should be a practical review that
looks at how to ensure the public is | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
informed of the reasons behind
parole board decisions. Just as the | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
public is clear about court
judgments, it needs to beat able to | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
be clear about decisions of the
parole board. Greater transparency | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
has widespread support, so we
welcome the widening of the review | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
announced today, and especially a
mechanism to allow parole board | 0:10:06 | 0:10:12 | |
decisions to be reconsidered whilst
retaining its independence. People | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
were shocked that some of the
victims found out about the decision | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
of the release of Mr Worboys through
the media. Labour has said from the | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
outset that it is totally
unacceptable and very concerning | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
that someone not given the
opportunity to participate in the | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
parole board hearing, as is their
right. The victim contact scheme is | 0:10:32 | 0:10:40 | |
responsible for informing victims of
significant changes in the case, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
including parole board hearing. This
is managed by the National probation | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
service, which has experienced
significant difficulties, especially | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
case overload, since the reform to
probation services in 2014. Labour | 0:10:50 | 0:10:57 | |
had called in this House for the
Government to look into the failings | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
in the MPS and victim contact
scheme, so it is a step forward that | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
the minister has now asked Dame
Glenys Stacey to conduct a | 0:11:06 | 0:11:14 | |
fact-finding exercise into the role
of the MPS. He needs to also ensure | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
that this answers the questions
being asked on whether his | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Government's wholly negative changes
to the probation service contributed | 0:11:22 | 0:11:30 | |
to failings, and how he plans to
address them. It is clear that | 0:11:30 | 0:11:37 | |
concerns are not limited to the
decisions or indeed the functioning | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
of the parole board. Labour has
repeatedly stated that the Worboys | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
case raises so many serious
questions that anything less than an | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
independent end to end review of the
handling of the case from the first | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
report to the police of an attack
right through to the parole board | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
hearing would let down the victims
and the wider public. Labour has | 0:11:58 | 0:12:04 | |
repeatedly called for this wider
enquiry but it is not clear why the | 0:12:04 | 0:12:10 | |
Secretary of State for Justice has
repeatedly refused this demand. It | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
is reasonable and rational, and it
would help build public trust. I | 0:12:12 | 0:12:21 | |
hope that he would take this
opportunity to reassure this House | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
that he will undertake this end to
end review. Can I thank the | 0:12:26 | 0:12:34 | |
honourable gentleman for his
questions. In the context of wanting | 0:12:34 | 0:12:40 | |
to ensure that the victims' position
is supported, I think he was right | 0:12:40 | 0:12:48 | |
to focus on the areas he did. And
I'm grateful for his not pressing | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
need further on the facts or legal
advice. In terms of the matter is | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
that he raised, it is right that the
victims are treated with concern, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
with sympathy, and that all due
processes are followed. In terms of | 0:13:03 | 0:13:11 | |
this particular case, I think we
need to have a proper understanding | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
of precisely what happened and
whether the support was provided in | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
the way that it should have been.
That's why I'm pleased that Dave is | 0:13:17 | 0:13:28 | |
-- Dame Glenys Stacey is undertaking
a fact-finding mission. I understand | 0:13:28 | 0:13:35 | |
the need for greater transparency in
parole board decisions. I know that | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
one of the things that frustrates
victims is the sense that they don't | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
get to know what is happening and
the reasons why the parole board has | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
reached the decision that it has
reached. Equally, I think it can be | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
a frustration for the parole board
that they are not able to articulate | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
the reasons why they have reached a
particular decision. I share that in | 0:13:56 | 0:14:02 | |
sick. I think we need to look
carefully at this, but I think we | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
need to move swiftly on this matter,
which is what I intend to do. In | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
terms of an end to end review, my
focus has been on these issues | 0:14:08 | 0:14:14 | |
transparency and victim support. I
think they are the immediate issues | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
in front of us. I recognise that
there is a debate about the original | 0:14:17 | 0:14:24 | |
investigation. There is a debate
about how these IPP sentences | 0:14:24 | 0:14:34 | |
operated, though they have been
abolished. It is important to focus | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
in terms of our reviews on how these
matters are dealt with, as a | 0:14:39 | 0:14:50 | |
priority. It is very clear, Mr
Speaker, and may I wish you a happy | 0:14:50 | 0:14:57 | |
birthday, that my right honourable
friend the Lord Chancellor has | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
applied himself to what is a very
serious and troubling case with the | 0:14:59 | 0:15:05 | |
greatest scrupulousness and care,
and he is to be commended for having | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
applied a difficult legal test of
what is ultimately a legal decision. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:18 | |
Will he agree a political decision
that could be made as soon as | 0:15:18 | 0:15:25 | |
possible is to change the parole
Board balls to the them to give | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
reasons for their decisions
Krachunov Parole Board rules. And | 0:15:28 | 0:15:39 | |
will be a great reassurance to
victim is and the public. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:45 | |
That is a good point. It is right
that we fully understand the full | 0:15:45 | 0:15:53 | |
implications of greater transparency
within the Parole Board. It is not | 0:15:53 | 0:16:01 | |
my desire we find a position whereby
as a matter of course offenders, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:10 | |
where the Parole Board is taking a
particular firm line because on the | 0:16:10 | 0:16:18 | |
evidence somebody should not be
released, but we need to understand | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
the full implications.
There is a case for much better | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
transparency.
Can I welcome this statement and the | 0:16:25 | 0:16:34 | |
decision to widen the remit of the
review. Has he be informed if the | 0:16:34 | 0:16:43 | |
CPS and police are reviewing the
other serious allegations against | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
John Warboys and if there is any
chance of further chances being | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
brought against him before he is
released? This is the question | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
victim want answered.
-- victim is. That is a matter for | 0:16:55 | 0:17:07 | |
the CPS and Metropolitan Police and
I don't think there is anything I | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
can say to inform the House on that.
I should declare during my 17 years | 0:17:11 | 0:17:20 | |
in the Treasury Solicitor Department
I acted for the Secretary of State | 0:17:20 | 0:17:26 | |
and Parole Board and sometimes both
together. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
I commend this detailed work on this
case and would ask him to reassure | 0:17:28 | 0:17:34 | |
us not only will the views of
statutory victim is be taken into | 0:17:34 | 0:17:40 | |
account but the wider group of
victim is known to the authorities. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:52 | |
There are different systems in place
for the statutory victim is versus | 0:17:52 | 0:17:58 | |
others but in this case where there
are a large number of people who are | 0:17:58 | 0:18:09 | |
victim is but not in respect of the
fit Coates convictions that John | 0:18:09 | 0:18:15 | |
Warboys had, we need to ensure the
system works them as well. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:22 | |
Following his previous statement
this month, I raised the importance | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
of competence in our justice system
and my fear is the decision not to | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
judicially review this will not give
reassurance. He has talked about | 0:18:29 | 0:18:38 | |
greater transparency but I want to
press him on the point the | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
honourable member for Bromley has
made, will he commit to changing the | 0:18:42 | 0:18:49 | |
statutory balls so decisions are
open not just in this case but | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
future cases?
-- statutory rules. The intention is | 0:18:53 | 0:19:02 | |
to look at increasing transparency.
I will come back to the House with | 0:19:02 | 0:19:08 | |
more detailed proposals. Can I urge
him to write to the CPS and ask them | 0:19:08 | 0:19:20 | |
to undertake a review. It may be the
public interest test was not | 0:19:20 | 0:19:26 | |
satisfied because there was an
indeterminate sentence and the | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
change in circumstances may mean
that test is now satisfied the cases | 0:19:31 | 0:19:39 | |
that were not prosecuted.
Could he give that undertaking? In | 0:19:39 | 0:19:46 | |
terms of accountability for
decisions on prosecutions, that is | 0:19:46 | 0:19:52 | |
not an area which is under my
responsibility. But I very much | 0:19:52 | 0:20:02 | |
understand and sympathise with the
point made, and I know this is an | 0:20:02 | 0:20:08 | |
issue which the Attorney General is
focused. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:19 | |
Will he be looking at how the CPS
and police deal with cases where | 0:20:19 | 0:20:26 | |
there are, where it comes to light
their further victims in cases of | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
serious like this? John Warboys was
convicted of sexual assaults on 12 | 0:20:30 | 0:20:37 | |
women but there are over 85 others
who came forward afterwards and that | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
needs to be looked at for similar
events where that might occur. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:50 | |
This is a fair point on the record.
I refer to my earlier answer. | 0:20:50 | 0:21:00 | |
Clearly in terms of whether there is
a public interest case to bring | 0:21:00 | 0:21:08 | |
further prosecutions, no doubt that
is something both the police and CPS | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
will want to consider.
It is essential we recognise and | 0:21:13 | 0:21:20 | |
respect the independence of our
legal system but also recognised the | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
public are disappointed and angry
with the Parole Board decision. Does | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
he agree by opening up the decisions
and making them more transparent, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:34 | |
even if the public still disagree,
they will have an understanding how | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
that decision was reached?
That is a very good point. The | 0:21:37 | 0:21:46 | |
direction that as a society we have
gone in has generally been towards | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
greater transparency. As Professor
Nick Hardwick who was one of the | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
first to make this point, there is a
case in this context of the Parole | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
Board as well.
Whilst we understand the desire not | 0:22:01 | 0:22:07 | |
to prejudice possible actions, in
his previous letter in January a | 0:22:07 | 0:22:14 | |
public letter, he states the victims
were not contacted until October. He | 0:22:14 | 0:22:21 | |
knows the concern it is not just
about updating them but involving | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
them in decisions. Can he give an
assurance participation will be | 0:22:25 | 0:22:31 | |
looked at and he will publish the
date when contact was made? | 0:22:31 | 0:22:43 | |
This is what will be investigated
and I have no doubt it will be made | 0:22:43 | 0:22:49 | |
public in her conclusions. It is
important victims are involved. In | 0:22:49 | 0:22:56 | |
this case, they are involved in
terms of making representations on | 0:22:56 | 0:23:02 | |
licensing conditions. It is
appropriate due weight is given to | 0:23:02 | 0:23:09 | |
this.
My constituents believe the best way | 0:23:09 | 0:23:16 | |
to protect the public is for violent
offenders to be kept behind bars and | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
they take the honourable view if an
offender is sentenced to a term of | 0:23:20 | 0:23:26 | |
imprisonment they should serve that
in prison in full before being | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
released.
Given this is a statement about the | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
transparency of the Parole Board
decisions, who and how is held to | 0:23:32 | 0:23:39 | |
account in the Parole Board if those
released early reoffend? | 0:23:39 | 0:23:46 | |
In terms of the numbers of
re-offences, those numbers are put | 0:23:46 | 0:23:56 | |
into the public domain. That is one
of the tests of the effectiveness of | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
the Parole Board. It is clearly a
priority for all of us that people | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
who are dangerous are not released.
The test for a Parole Board in the | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
context of one of these IAPP
business is an assessment of their | 0:24:11 | 0:24:18 | |
risk to the public. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
The Shadow Minister is right, this
case raises wider issues from the | 0:24:26 | 0:24:34 | |
offence being committed to the
process of parole. Can he tell us | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
when he will bring forward the Bill
promised in 2015? | 0:24:37 | 0:24:44 | |
What I can say is I am receiving
advice on what we can do to make | 0:24:44 | 0:24:57 | |
progress on this matter. I hope to
update the House in due course. I | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
agree victims the vitally important
in the system. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:08 | |
Thank you for the detailed
estimation for the decision. I | 0:25:08 | 0:25:14 | |
welcome his comments on further
transparency which will increase | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
public confidence and the confidence
of victims in the system. How soon | 0:25:16 | 0:25:25 | |
does he anticipate changes can be
made? | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
The review even though it has been
broadened and we are looking more | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
widely not just at transparency but
whether there should be opportunity | 0:25:34 | 0:25:40 | |
for the Parole Board to look again
at decisions, that review will | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
report by Easter, depending on what
it recommends will determine the | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
timing but I am keen to make
progress as quickly as possible. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:57 | |
Can I welcome the extension of the
review announced today but I do | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
think there are serious questions
about the way police and the CPS | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
operated in this. I don't think it
is satisfactory to leave it to the | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
police and CPS.
There is a Home Office minister | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
that, I want to know what the Home
Office and Attorney General office | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
under -- Are doing to look at the
early stages as to whether this man | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
should be charged with further
offences? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
I know the Home Secretary and
Attorney General had been very | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
focused on this case. What I would
say is my focus has been on the | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
immediate issues and that does
relate to the consideration of | 0:26:38 | 0:26:45 | |
judicial review but also issues of
transparency and support for victim | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
is. Of course, there are questions
that do need to be asked about how | 0:26:48 | 0:26:56 | |
the system which this Government has
abolished, how that operated in | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
terms of whether it met the test of
honesty and sentencing. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
That is for another day. Recognising
the importance of the independence | 0:27:06 | 0:27:15 | |
of the judiciary but considering in
this case the crimes, the victims | 0:27:15 | 0:27:22 | |
public concern, can he assured he
has looked into all the options in | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
this case?
Yes, I can give that assurance and | 0:27:27 | 0:27:36 | |
without dwelling on the details of
the reasons I have set out before, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
given very long, close and serious
consideration to my options. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:47 | |
He is rightly concentrating on the
issue of transparency in his remarks | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
but he referred to the fact there
are some victims court in legal | 0:27:51 | 0:27:59 | |
proceedings because legal aid has
been severely restricted. Would he | 0:27:59 | 0:28:05 | |
please look again at the
availability of civil legal aid for | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
judicial review?
In the context of legal aid | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
generally she will be aware there is
currently a review on that. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:29 | |
It is reassuring the Lord Chancellor
despite only being imposed a short | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
time has sought to get behind the
Viktor of this terrible case. Can I | 0:28:34 | 0:28:41 | |
push him on the point about legal
aid. He mentioned he supports the | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
rights of the victim is to pursue
their own case. Will there be | 0:28:45 | 0:28:51 | |
discretion from the legal aid agency
to provide funding for them to do | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
so?
First, in terms of the action | 0:28:54 | 0:29:02 | |
brought, that may be brought by
victims on this, I want to be | 0:29:02 | 0:29:10 | |
careful in my remarks.
Just because I am not taking action | 0:29:10 | 0:29:16 | |
does not mean others cannot because
these legal cases can depend upon | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
precisely what the position they are
in. It is the case legal aid | 0:29:21 | 0:29:30 | |
generally remains available for
advice, assistance and | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
representation in relation to
judicial review. And that would | 0:29:33 | 0:29:39 | |
include decisions of the Parole
Board where there is sufficient | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
benefit to the individual.
We all respect the independence of | 0:29:42 | 0:29:52 | |
the judiciary but there needs to
come transparency. | 0:29:52 | 0:30:00 | |
Will he agreed the outcome of this
review must be greater transparency | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
in terms of Parole Board decisions? | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
Is I'm grateful to my honourable
friend for his question. The | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
direction we are moving in this
towards greater transparency. There | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
are some details we need to master
and fully understand, but I think | 0:30:17 | 0:30:22 | |
the direction of travel is clear.
Can I welcome the extended review | 0:30:22 | 0:30:29 | |
which the Justice Secretary just
announced. But would he confirmed to | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
the House that it will include a
very detailed assessment of the | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
decision-making processes that the
parole board go through, with | 0:30:37 | 0:30:43 | |
particular reference to expert
reports from people like Doctor | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
Jackie Chrissie Arty in this case,
which are at the heart of these | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
decisions, to make sure that they
are suitable to give the expert | 0:30:50 | 0:30:57 | |
advice that they give? Clearly, this
is going to be a broad review in | 0:30:57 | 0:31:05 | |
terms of how the parole board works.
So, clearly, in terms of considering | 0:31:05 | 0:31:12 | |
how it operates, the importance of
particular expert evidence is going | 0:31:12 | 0:31:19 | |
to be part of that process. I also
might welcome the Lord Chancellor's | 0:31:19 | 0:31:29 | |
statement and the decision to expand
the review. He will of course be | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
aware that this is not the first
such case, and I would just to his | 0:31:32 | 0:31:40 | |
attention the case of a serial child
exploitation offender released after | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
a 20 year sentence only five years
after his trial. His victims felt | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
the victim contact scheme let them
down. Will he consider this case as | 0:31:48 | 0:31:54 | |
part of his expanded review? In
terms of generally looking at how | 0:31:54 | 0:32:00 | |
the victim contact scheme works, I
would certainly be interested to | 0:32:00 | 0:32:06 | |
receive more information from my
honourable friend, but certainly, if | 0:32:06 | 0:32:11 | |
there are other examples where
questions have been raised, then | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
that is clearly something the review
will need to take into account. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:24 | |
Thank you, Mr Speaker. On that same
note, I welcome the Secretary of | 0:32:24 | 0:32:30 | |
State's response to what is a
sensitive and emotive issue. It | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
highlights that they need to listen
to victims is so important. Could | 0:32:34 | 0:32:40 | |
the Minister give assurances that
this will be looked at? Is it fit | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
for purpose? And was it adequately
followed by the parole board? In | 0:32:45 | 0:32:52 | |
terms of how the victim contact
scheme worked in this particular | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
case, you know, frankly, there
are... There are different views | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
that have been put to me. There is
conflicting evidence, and that is | 0:33:01 | 0:33:09 | |
why I think it is absolutely right
that we have that review by Dame | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
Glenys Stacey, so that we can
properly understand what happens | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
here, and therefore what lessons can
be learned from it. I welcome the | 0:33:18 | 0:33:26 | |
Justice Secretary's commitment to a
broader review and appreciate that | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
he has set himself a pretty
aggressive timeline for this, so if | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
the end result is generally going to
be better reflection of the views of | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
victims, can he assure me that the
review itself will engage the | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
victims? Yes, I think it is
absolutely essential that victims | 0:33:42 | 0:33:48 | |
are engaged in this process. I think
that all members across this House | 0:33:48 | 0:33:58 | |
recognise and appreciate my right
honourable friend's candour with the | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
house, but for the sake of all
victims, will he make sure that all | 0:34:00 | 0:34:05 | |
appropriate and measured steps are
taken to make sure he's never put in | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
this position again? I think the
most important thing is not my | 0:34:09 | 0:34:15 | |
position but the position of
victims, and clearly, we need to | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
ensure that victims have a system
which they have faith in. Sometimes | 0:34:19 | 0:34:25 | |
these can be difficult challenges in
terms of making sure that where | 0:34:25 | 0:34:33 | |
there are large numbers of victims,
that their voices properly heard. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:39 | |
Victims, I think, are entitled to
have their voices heard, and we have | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
to make sure we have a system that
works for them. I am most grateful | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
to the Secretary of State for the
statement and two colleagues for | 0:34:47 | 0:34:53 | |
the... The house will now returned
to the homes fitness for habitation | 0:34:53 | 0:35:02 | |
bill. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 |