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I would like to make a further

statement on the parole board

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decision to release John Worboys. I

know the victims have suffered

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considerable trauma. The prospect of

the release of this man is deeply

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concerning to them, to members of

this House and to members of the

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wider public. I believe I omit to

those victims and the public to

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consider all the options open to me

as Secretary of State for Justice. I

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took the step of seeking legal

advice from specialist leading

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counsel to establish whether there

were grounds to challenge this

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decision in the courts and to ask

the courts to stop the release of

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Worboys before the decision was

reconsidered. Let me set out my

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approach to judicial review in

general. There should not be a

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challenge that has no reasonable

prospect of success. It is right

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that public bodies can be held to

account for their actions through

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due process of law and specifically

judicial review. There has been

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significant public debate about the

possible basis for a legal challenge

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in a case such as this. It has been

speculated that there are two

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grounds open to me to challenge such

a decision. The decision was one

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that nobody could reasonably have

taken, or that there were

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considerable procedural failings in

the way that that decision was

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taken. The bar for a judicial review

to succeed is very high. The test

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for deciding if a decision is

unreasonable is not simply that the

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decision maker, in this case the

parole board, could have made an

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alternative decision, but that no

reasonable person would have come to

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the same conclusion on the facts

upper case. Similarly, on procedure,

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it would be necessary to identify

failing to follow that process by

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the parole board that would have had

a material impact on the decision.

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Having taken considered an expert

legal advice, I have decided that it

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would not be appropriate for me as

Secretary of State to proceed with

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such a case. Honourable members will

appreciate that I can go further and

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expose details of the legal advice I

have been given. I know this will

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disappoint the victims in this case

and members of this House. Given the

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crimes for which he has been

convicted, on a personal level,

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candidly, I share those concerns. I

have taken a close personal interest

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in this case since assuming office

as the Secretary of State for

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Justice. I believe it is important

that all the victims have clarity as

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soon as possible, which is why I am

before the House today. I can

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reassure the House and the public

that Worboys will not be released

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until his licence conditions have

been finalised. I understand that

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contact with victims has taken place

this week, and further meetings

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about his release will take place

next week. This will have given

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those victims the opportunity to

make representations to the parole

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board as to the conditions to which

Worboys should be subject on

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release. Let me be absolutely clear,

Worboys will not be released until

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their representations have been

properly considered and his licence

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conditions are in place. Indeed,

last week, I asked for assurances

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that the views of victims were being

taken into account and that robust

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licensing conditions would be put in

place to manage his risk. I am aware

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that some third parties have

indicated that they are seeking to

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bring legal proceedings themselves,

and that correspondence has been

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served on me as Secretary of State

as a potential interested party to

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any litigation. I fully support the

right of victims to take their own

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legal advice and to challenge the

decision. The approach I'm taking

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does not mean that others who may

have significant interest in the

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case are precluded from taking

action. Each case depends on the

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circumstances of each individual

ringing a claim. And that is one of

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the reason I do not intend to save

more on this matter. I would not

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want to prejudice any legal

challenges by commenting further on

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the facts of the particular case or

the legal advice I have received. I

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will be taking advice on how my

department should consequently

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engage in any proceedings, but it

would not be appropriate to comment

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further at this stage. It is vitally

important that the public and

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victims have confidence in the

justice system that is there to

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serve them. This case has exposed

some issues with the parole process

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as a whole. I have already indicated

that aspects of the parole process

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more generally should be examined.

In my statement on the 9th of

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January, I said my department would

review the case for transparency in

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the review parole board decisions,

how victims are communicated with,

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and how they are appropriately

engaged in that process. I now

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believe that review should go

further. I have therefore expanded

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the terms of reference of the review

to consider guidance in practice on

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parole board decision making. I have

published these today and have

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placed a copy in the catlike house

library. I have expanded the review

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to consider whether there should be

a mechanism to allow parole

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decisions to be reconsidered, and

how that might best be achieved

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whilst retaining the independence of

the decision-making process. This

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review remains a priority for me and

the Government. Despite the

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significant expansion of the terms

of reference, I intend to complete

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that review before Easter. I also

acknowledge the concerns that the

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victim contact scheme operated by

the National probation service may

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not have worked as well as it should

have in this particular case. It is

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right that as well as looking at the

process around parole decisions for

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all cases that we consider whether

existing processes were followed in

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this instance. I have therefore ask

Dame Glenna Stacey, Her Majesty's

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Chief Inspector of probation, to

conduct a rapid fact-finding

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exercise to find out whether the

existing processes, policies and so

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forth were adequately followed by

the parole board in this case. Her

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findings will inform the wider

review. Mr Speaker, as I have said,

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I know members of the House are

concerned about this case and how we

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deal with the release of offenders.

I hope this has reassured all

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members of the thorough and careful

consideration I have made this

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difficult case, and that we are now

giving serious and urgent

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consideration to ways in which the

process can be improved that

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reassures not only the victims of

these terrible crimes but the wider

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public.

Thank you very much, Mr

Speaker. I thank the Secretary of

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State for prior sight of his

statement. Two weeks ago it was

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announced that John Worboys would be

released from prison. In those two

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weeks, it has been absolutely clear,

the victims of the vile crimes

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committed by Worboys feel that our

criminal justice as has let them

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down. Our system must ensure that it

has the victims of crime at its

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core. When it fails to do so, it

affects not just the direct victims

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themselves but risks undermining

wider public trust in our justice

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system. As Labour has reiterated

since the news of the release of

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John Worboys was announced, it is

important that the Secretary of

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State does everything in his

power... Many will be disappointed

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by today's news. It is understood

that legal advice can't be shared,

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and the minister does not want to

prejudice other cases being brought.

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But today's news makes the need for

changes in the parole board even

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more pressing. The current rules

permit either the Secretary of State

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for victims to bring judicial

review. Many will have seen that

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they are doing and that they have

attracted much public support for

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their fundraising for this. Judicial

review is a key tool for every

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citizen to be able to challenge

unjust or unlawful decisions by the

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state or other public bodies. Cuts

to legal aid have undermined the

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ability of many to pursue judicial

review. I would request that the

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Government today use its review into

this to see how it can support

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judicial review. Any judicial review

would look at whether the parole

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board decision was taken properly.

If not, it would go back to the

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parole board to look at this again.

As it stands, the current rules mean

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that we would not know the reasons

for any subsequent parole board

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decision. As we have repeatedly said

on the side of the Us, there is no

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need to debate whether there is a

case for greater transparency. It

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should be a practical review that

looks at how to ensure the public is

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informed of the reasons behind

parole board decisions. Just as the

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public is clear about court

judgments, it needs to beat able to

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be clear about decisions of the

parole board. Greater transparency

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has widespread support, so we

welcome the widening of the review

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announced today, and especially a

mechanism to allow parole board

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decisions to be reconsidered whilst

retaining its independence. People

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were shocked that some of the

victims found out about the decision

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of the release of Mr Worboys through

the media. Labour has said from the

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outset that it is totally

unacceptable and very concerning

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that someone not given the

opportunity to participate in the

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parole board hearing, as is their

right. The victim contact scheme is

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responsible for informing victims of

significant changes in the case,

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including parole board hearing. This

is managed by the National probation

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service, which has experienced

significant difficulties, especially

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case overload, since the reform to

probation services in 2014. Labour

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had called in this House for the

Government to look into the failings

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in the MPS and victim contact

scheme, so it is a step forward that

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the minister has now asked Dame

Glenys Stacey to conduct a

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fact-finding exercise into the role

of the MPS. He needs to also ensure

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that this answers the questions

being asked on whether his

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Government's wholly negative changes

to the probation service contributed

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to failings, and how he plans to

address them. It is clear that

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concerns are not limited to the

decisions or indeed the functioning

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of the parole board. Labour has

repeatedly stated that the Worboys

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case raises so many serious

questions that anything less than an

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independent end to end review of the

handling of the case from the first

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report to the police of an attack

right through to the parole board

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hearing would let down the victims

and the wider public. Labour has

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repeatedly called for this wider

enquiry but it is not clear why the

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Secretary of State for Justice has

repeatedly refused this demand. It

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is reasonable and rational, and it

would help build public trust. I

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hope that he would take this

opportunity to reassure this House

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that he will undertake this end to

end review.

Can I thank the

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honourable gentleman for his

questions. In the context of wanting

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to ensure that the victims' position

is supported, I think he was right

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to focus on the areas he did. And

I'm grateful for his not pressing

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need further on the facts or legal

advice. In terms of the matter is

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that he raised, it is right that the

victims are treated with concern,

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with sympathy, and that all due

processes are followed. In terms of

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this particular case, I think we

need to have a proper understanding

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of precisely what happened and

whether the support was provided in

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the way that it should have been.

That's why I'm pleased that Dave is

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-- Dame Glenys Stacey is undertaking

a fact-finding mission. I understand

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the need for greater transparency in

parole board decisions. I know that

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one of the things that frustrates

victims is the sense that they don't

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get to know what is happening and

the reasons why the parole board has

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reached the decision that it has

reached. Equally, I think it can be

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a frustration for the parole board

that they are not able to articulate

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the reasons why they have reached a

particular decision. I share that in

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sick. I think we need to look

carefully at this, but I think we

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need to move swiftly on this matter,

which is what I intend to do. In

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terms of an end to end review, my

focus has been on these issues

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transparency and victim support. I

think they are the immediate issues

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in front of us. I recognise that

there is a debate about the original

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investigation. There is a debate

about how these IPP sentences

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operated, though they have been

abolished. It is important to focus

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in terms of our reviews on how these

matters are dealt with, as a

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priority.

It is very clear, Mr

Speaker, and may I wish you a happy

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birthday, that my right honourable

friend the Lord Chancellor has

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applied himself to what is a very

serious and troubling case with the

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greatest scrupulousness and care,

and he is to be commended for having

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applied a difficult legal test of

what is ultimately a legal decision.

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Will he agree a political decision

that could be made as soon as

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possible is to change the parole

Board balls to the them to give

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reasons for their decisions

Krachunov Parole Board rules. And

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will be a great reassurance to

victim is and the public.

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That is a good point. It is right

that we fully understand the full

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implications of greater transparency

within the Parole Board. It is not

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my desire we find a position whereby

as a matter of course offenders,

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where the Parole Board is taking a

particular firm line because on the

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evidence somebody should not be

released, but we need to understand

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the full implications.

There is a case for much better

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transparency.

Can I welcome this statement and the

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decision to widen the remit of the

review. Has he be informed if the

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CPS and police are reviewing the

other serious allegations against

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John Warboys and if there is any

chance of further chances being

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brought against him before he is

released? This is the question

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victim want answered.

-- victim is. That is a matter for

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the CPS and Metropolitan Police and

I don't think there is anything I

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can say to inform the House on that.

I should declare during my 17 years

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in the Treasury Solicitor Department

I acted for the Secretary of State

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and Parole Board and sometimes both

together.

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I commend this detailed work on this

case and would ask him to reassure

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us not only will the views of

statutory victim is be taken into

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account but the wider group of

victim is known to the authorities.

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There are different systems in place

for the statutory victim is versus

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others but in this case where there

are a large number of people who are

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victim is but not in respect of the

fit Coates convictions that John

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Warboys had, we need to ensure the

system works them as well.

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Following his previous statement

this month, I raised the importance

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of competence in our justice system

and my fear is the decision not to

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judicially review this will not give

reassurance. He has talked about

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greater transparency but I want to

press him on the point the

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honourable member for Bromley has

made, will he commit to changing the

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statutory balls so decisions are

open not just in this case but

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future cases?

-- statutory rules. The intention is

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to look at increasing transparency.

I will come back to the House with

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more detailed proposals.

Can I urge

him to write to the CPS and ask them

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to undertake a review. It may be the

public interest test was not

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satisfied because there was an

indeterminate sentence and the

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change in circumstances may mean

that test is now satisfied the cases

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that were not prosecuted.

Could he give that undertaking?

In

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terms of accountability for

decisions on prosecutions, that is

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not an area which is under my

responsibility. But I very much

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understand and sympathise with the

point made, and I know this is an

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issue which the Attorney General is

focused.

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Will he be looking at how the CPS

and police deal with cases where

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there are, where it comes to light

their further victims in cases of

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serious like this? John Warboys was

convicted of sexual assaults on 12

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women but there are over 85 others

who came forward afterwards and that

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needs to be looked at for similar

events where that might occur.

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This is a fair point on the record.

I refer to my earlier answer.

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Clearly in terms of whether there is

a public interest case to bring

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further prosecutions, no doubt that

is something both the police and CPS

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will want to consider.

It is essential we recognise and

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respect the independence of our

legal system but also recognised the

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public are disappointed and angry

with the Parole Board decision. Does

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he agree by opening up the decisions

and making them more transparent,

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even if the public still disagree,

they will have an understanding how

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that decision was reached?

That is a very good point. The

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direction that as a society we have

gone in has generally been towards

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greater transparency. As Professor

Nick Hardwick who was one of the

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first to make this point, there is a

case in this context of the Parole

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Board as well.

Whilst we understand the desire not

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to prejudice possible actions, in

his previous letter in January a

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public letter, he states the victims

were not contacted until October. He

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knows the concern it is not just

about updating them but involving

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them in decisions. Can he give an

assurance participation will be

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looked at and he will publish the

date when contact was made?

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This is what will be investigated

and I have no doubt it will be made

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public in her conclusions. It is

important victims are involved. In

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this case, they are involved in

terms of making representations on

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licensing conditions. It is

appropriate due weight is given to

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this.

My constituents believe the best way

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to protect the public is for violent

offenders to be kept behind bars and

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they take the honourable view if an

offender is sentenced to a term of

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imprisonment they should serve that

in prison in full before being

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released.

Given this is a statement about the

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transparency of the Parole Board

decisions, who and how is held to

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account in the Parole Board if those

released early reoffend?

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In terms of the numbers of

re-offences, those numbers are put

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into the public domain. That is one

of the tests of the effectiveness of

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the Parole Board. It is clearly a

priority for all of us that people

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who are dangerous are not released.

The test for a Parole Board in the

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context of one of these IAPP

business is an assessment of their

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risk to the public.

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The Shadow Minister is right, this

case raises wider issues from the

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offence being committed to the

process of parole. Can he tell us

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when he will bring forward the Bill

promised in 2015?

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What I can say is I am receiving

advice on what we can do to make

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progress on this matter. I hope to

update the House in due course. I

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agree victims the vitally important

in the system.

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Thank you for the detailed

estimation for the decision. I

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welcome his comments on further

transparency which will increase

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public confidence and the confidence

of victims in the system. How soon

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does he anticipate changes can be

made?

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The review even though it has been

broadened and we are looking more

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widely not just at transparency but

whether there should be opportunity

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for the Parole Board to look again

at decisions, that review will

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report by Easter, depending on what

it recommends will determine the

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timing but I am keen to make

progress as quickly as possible.

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Can I welcome the extension of the

review announced today but I do

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think there are serious questions

about the way police and the CPS

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operated in this. I don't think it

is satisfactory to leave it to the

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police and CPS.

There is a Home Office minister

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that, I want to know what the Home

Office and Attorney General office

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under -- Are doing to look at the

early stages as to whether this man

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should be charged with further

offences?

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I know the Home Secretary and

Attorney General had been very

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focused on this case. What I would

say is my focus has been on the

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immediate issues and that does

relate to the consideration of

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judicial review but also issues of

transparency and support for victim

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is. Of course, there are questions

that do need to be asked about how

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the system which this Government has

abolished, how that operated in

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terms of whether it met the test of

honesty and sentencing.

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That is for another day.

Recognising

the importance of the independence

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of the judiciary but considering in

this case the crimes, the victims

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public concern, can he assured he

has looked into all the options in

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this case?

Yes, I can give that assurance and

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without dwelling on the details of

the reasons I have set out before,

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given very long, close and serious

consideration to my options.

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He is rightly concentrating on the

issue of transparency in his remarks

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but he referred to the fact there

are some victims court in legal

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proceedings because legal aid has

been severely restricted. Would he

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please look again at the

availability of civil legal aid for

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judicial review?

In the context of legal aid

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generally she will be aware there is

currently a review on that.

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It is reassuring the Lord Chancellor

despite only being imposed a short

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time has sought to get behind the

Viktor of this terrible case. Can I

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push him on the point about legal

aid. He mentioned he supports the

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rights of the victim is to pursue

their own case. Will there be

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discretion from the legal aid agency

to provide funding for them to do

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so?

First, in terms of the action

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brought, that may be brought by

victims on this, I want to be

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careful in my remarks.

Just because I am not taking action

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does not mean others cannot because

these legal cases can depend upon

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precisely what the position they are

in. It is the case legal aid

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generally remains available for

advice, assistance and

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representation in relation to

judicial review. And that would

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include decisions of the Parole

Board where there is sufficient

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benefit to the individual.

We all respect the independence of

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the judiciary but there needs to

come transparency.

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Will he agreed the outcome of this

review must be greater transparency

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in terms of Parole Board decisions?

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Is

I'm grateful to my honourable

friend for his question. The

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direction we are moving in this

towards greater transparency. There

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are some details we need to master

and fully understand, but I think

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the direction of travel is clear.

Can I welcome the extended review

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which the Justice Secretary just

announced. But would he confirmed to

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the House that it will include a

very detailed assessment of the

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decision-making processes that the

parole board go through, with

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particular reference to expert

reports from people like Doctor

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Jackie Chrissie Arty in this case,

which are at the heart of these

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decisions, to make sure that they

are suitable to give the expert

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advice that they give?

Clearly, this

is going to be a broad review in

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terms of how the parole board works.

So, clearly, in terms of considering

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how it operates, the importance of

particular expert evidence is going

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to be part of that process.

I also

might welcome the Lord Chancellor's

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statement and the decision to expand

the review. He will of course be

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aware that this is not the first

such case, and I would just to his

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attention the case of a serial child

exploitation offender released after

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a 20 year sentence only five years

after his trial. His victims felt

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the victim contact scheme let them

down. Will he consider this case as

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part of his expanded review?

In

terms of generally looking at how

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the victim contact scheme works, I

would certainly be interested to

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receive more information from my

honourable friend, but certainly, if

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there are other examples where

questions have been raised, then

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that is clearly something the review

will need to take into account.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. On that same

note, I welcome the Secretary of

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State's response to what is a

sensitive and emotive issue. It

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highlights that they need to listen

to victims is so important. Could

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the Minister give assurances that

this will be looked at? Is it fit

0:32:400:32:45

for purpose? And was it adequately

followed by the parole board?

In

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terms of how the victim contact

scheme worked in this particular

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case, you know, frankly, there

are... There are different views

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that have been put to me. There is

conflicting evidence, and that is

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why I think it is absolutely right

that we have that review by Dame

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Glenys Stacey, so that we can

properly understand what happens

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here, and therefore what lessons can

be learned from it.

I welcome the

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Justice Secretary's commitment to a

broader review and appreciate that

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he has set himself a pretty

aggressive timeline for this, so if

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the end result is generally going to

be better reflection of the views of

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victims, can he assure me that the

review itself will engage the

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victims?

Yes, I think it is

absolutely essential that victims

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are engaged in this process.

I think

that all members across this House

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recognise and appreciate my right

honourable friend's candour with the

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house, but for the sake of all

victims, will he make sure that all

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appropriate and measured steps are

taken to make sure he's never put in

0:34:050:34:09

this position again?

I think the

most important thing is not my

0:34:090:34:15

position but the position of

victims, and clearly, we need to

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ensure that victims have a system

which they have faith in. Sometimes

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these can be difficult challenges in

terms of making sure that where

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there are large numbers of victims,

that their voices properly heard.

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Victims, I think, are entitled to

have their voices heard, and we have

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to make sure we have a system that

works for them.

I am most grateful

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to the Secretary of State for the

statement and two colleagues for

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the... The house will now returned

to the homes fitness for habitation

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bill.

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