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Hello! Tonight, Inside Out is at Hello! Tonight, Inside Out is at

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Ambergate in Derbyshire. Ambergate in Derbyshire.

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Ambergate in Derbyshire. Ambergate in Derbyshire.

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Coming up in the next half hour... Coming up in the next half hour...

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Coming up in the next half hour... Local air ambulance services like

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Local air ambulance services like Local air ambulance services like

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Local air ambulance services like this could be under threat from a

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this could be under threat from a new national children's air

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ambulance service. ambulance service.

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ambulance service. If funds drop for local air

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If funds drop for local air If funds drop for local air

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ambulances, it could curtail their ambulances, it could curtail their

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ambulances, it could curtail their ambulances, it could curtail their

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flying. People could die if the air flying. People could die if the air

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ambulance is not flying. ambulance is not flying.

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ambulance is not flying. ambulance is not flying.

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Out of work? Then, head outdoors - Out of work? Then, head outdoors -

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Out of work? Then, head outdoors - a 24-hour challenge for the long-

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term unemployed. term unemployed.

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term unemployed. Tastes like something you would

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Tastes like something you would Tastes like something you would

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Tastes like something you would Tastes like something you would

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pick off a tree, if you were in the woods.

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woods. woods.

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And demolish the high-rise flats, And demolish the high-rise flats,

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And demolish the high-rise flats, but can the community spirit

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I'm Marie Ashby and this is Inside I'm Marie Ashby and this is Inside

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Out East Midlands. Out East Midlands.

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Out East Midlands. Out East Midlands.

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In our first film tonight, we are In our first film tonight, we are

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In our first film tonight, we are looking into a charity promising to

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looking into a charity promising to looking into a charity promising to

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save lives. The Children's Air save lives. The Children's Air

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save lives. The Children's Air save lives. The Children's Air

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Ambulance was set up six years ago Ambulance was set up six years ago

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Ambulance was set up six years ago Ambulance was set up six years ago

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but, as yet, has not managed to fly but, as yet, has not managed to fly

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a single child anywhere. a single child anywhere.

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a single child anywhere. As Matthew Hill has been finding

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As Matthew Hill has been finding As Matthew Hill has been finding

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out, the charity has sparked an out, the charity has sparked an

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out, the charity has sparked an almighty row among existing air

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ambulance services. ambulance services.

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ambulance services. ambulance services.

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They are called the angels of the They are called the angels of the

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They are called the angels of the They are called the angels of the

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They are called the angels of the sky. And it is not hard to see why.

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sky. And it is not hard to see why. sky. And it is not hard to see why.

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Air ambulances like this one are Air ambulances like this one are

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run by charities. run by charities.

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run by charities. And, as charities, they depend

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And, as charities, they depend And, as charities, they depend

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entirely on donations to save lives. entirely on donations to save lives.

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entirely on donations to save lives. Each region has its own air

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Each region has its own air ambulance service. They are

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ambulance service. They are ambulance service. They are

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distinct and separate from each other.

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other. other.

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There are 16 different services There are 16 different services

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There are 16 different services covering their own distinct parts

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covering their own distinct parts covering their own distinct parts

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covering their own distinct parts of the country. Each of these air

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of the country. Each of these air of the country. Each of these air

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ambulance services raises money in ambulance services raises money in

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their own patch. their own patch.

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their own patch. their own patch.

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But now there is a charity that But now there is a charity that

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But now there is a charity that But now there is a charity that

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says it wants to start a new says it wants to start a new

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says it wants to start a new service - a national helicopter

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service - a national helicopter dedicated to transporting sick

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dedicated to transporting sick children between hospitals.

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children between hospitals. children between hospitals.

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children between hospitals. It is not playing by the same

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It is not playing by the same unwritten fundraising rules as

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everyone else. everyone else.

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everyone else. everyone else.

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And there are fears it could impact And there are fears it could impact

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And there are fears it could impact on existing air ambulance services.

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on existing air ambulance services. on existing air ambulance services.

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If funds are curtailed, people could dive.

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could dive. could dive.

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This new children's service has This new children's service has

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This new children's service has This new children's service has

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cost nearly �2 million and, so far, cost nearly �2 million and, so far,

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cost nearly �2 million and, so far, not a single child has been

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transported. transported.

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transported. There are questions over its

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There are questions over its There are questions over its

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motives and how it is spending donations.

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donations. donations.

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But its backers believe in its future.

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future. future.

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future. If the public get behind this, then

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If the public get behind this, then If the public get behind this, then

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it is worth every penny. it is worth every penny.

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it is worth every penny. But how realistic is their vision

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But how realistic is their vision But how realistic is their vision

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to create a national children's helicopter service?

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helicopter service? helicopter service?

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helicopter service? And what cost will it have on our

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And what cost will it have on our The crew of the Lincolnshire and

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The crew of the Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire Air Ambulance are

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Nottinghamshire Air Ambulance are Nottinghamshire Air Ambulance are

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on their way to an accident. on their way to an accident.

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on their way to an accident. This air ambulance flies around

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This air ambulance flies around 1,000 missions a year.

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1,000 missions a year. 1,000 missions a year.

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It would not be possible, without It would not be possible, without

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It would not be possible, without money collected at places like this

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money collected at places like this money collected at places like this

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shop, at Bracebridge Heath in Lincolnshire.

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Lincolnshire. Lincolnshire.

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Lincolnshire. There are all sorts of ways that we

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There are all sorts of ways that we raise this money.

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raise this money. raise this money.

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Basically, we have got charity Basically, we have got charity

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Basically, we have got charity shops. We collect clothes and

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shops. We collect clothes and shops. We collect clothes and

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recycle those clothes. We have recycle those clothes. We have

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recycle those clothes. We have donations from the general public.

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donations from the general public. donations from the general public.

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donations from the general public. What we do not do is fundraise

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What we do not do is fundraise What we do not do is fundraise

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outside of our own area, because outside of our own area, because

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outside of our own area, because outside of our own area, because

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that is not fair on the other air ambulances.

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ambulances. ambulances.

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Peter is concerned that principle Peter is concerned that principle

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Peter is concerned that principle is not being reciprocated by

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is not being reciprocated by is not being reciprocated by

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another air ambulance now raising another air ambulance now raising

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money in Nottinghamshire. money in Nottinghamshire.

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money in Nottinghamshire. These bags, charity clothing bags

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These bags, charity clothing bags have been flooded throughout

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have been flooded throughout Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire

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Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire

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and bring a lot of confusion and bring a lot of confusion

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and bring a lot of confusion amongst the donors we currently

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have. have.

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have. have.

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You get a bag like that, it is You get a bag like that, it is

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You get a bag like that, it is yellow like our helicopter and

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yellow like our helicopter and yellow like our helicopter and

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implies it is a national air ambulance service.

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ambulance service. ambulance service.

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Whereas, of course, we are the Whereas, of course, we are the

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local air ambulance providing local air ambulance providing

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service for Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire.

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Nottinghamshire. Nottinghamshire.

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Despite its claims, the charity Despite its claims, the charity

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Despite its claims, the charity Despite its claims, the charity

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that owns these bags is not yet that owns these bags is not yet

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saving lives nationwide. saving lives nationwide.

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It actually operates the It actually operates the

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Warwickshire and Northamptonshire Warwickshire and Northamptonshire

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and the Derbyshire, Leicestershire and the Derbyshire, Leicestershire

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and Rutland air ambulances. and Rutland air ambulances.

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and Rutland air ambulances. and Rutland air ambulances.

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But it now wants to start a new But it now wants to start a new

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national service dedicated to national service dedicated to

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transferring children between hospitals.

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hospitals. hospitals.

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hospitals. They plan to offer this new service

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They plan to offer this new service They plan to offer this new service

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by using one helicopter to cover by using one helicopter to cover

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the entire country. the entire country.

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the entire country. We airlift many children every year

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We airlift many children every year We airlift many children every year

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We airlift many children every year in this air ambulance and I have no

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in this air ambulance and I have no in this air ambulance and I have no

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doubt that there is a requirement doubt that there is a requirement

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doubt that there is a requirement for some sort of paediatric

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for some sort of paediatric for some sort of paediatric

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transfer service for seriously ill children.

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children. children.

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The current method of transferring The current method of transferring

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The current method of transferring sick children around the UK is

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sick children around the UK is sick children around the UK is

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quite complex and there are many quite complex and there are many

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quite complex and there are many different ways of doing it.

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different ways of doing it. different ways of doing it.

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different ways of doing it. I am not sure having a helicopter

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I am not sure having a helicopter I am not sure having a helicopter

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air ambulance, based at Coventry, air ambulance, based at Coventry,

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air ambulance, based at Coventry, providing a service for the whole

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providing a service for the whole providing a service for the whole

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providing a service for the whole of the UK is the best and most

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of the UK is the best and most of the UK is the best and most

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appropriate way of doing that. appropriate way of doing that.

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appropriate way of doing that. appropriate way of doing that.

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Peter is not the only person to Peter is not the only person to

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Peter is not the only person to have concerns. We have spoken to

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have concerns. We have spoken to several former volunteers and

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several former volunteers and several former volunteers and

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employees of the charity. Two of employees of the charity. Two of

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employees of the charity. Two of them left because they did not

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them left because they did not them left because they did not

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them left because they did not agree with what it was doing and

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agree with what it was doing and agree with what it was doing and

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the way it was spending donations. the way it was spending donations.

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the way it was spending donations. the way it was spending donations.

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Barbara Parish is one of them. She Barbara Parish is one of them. She

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Barbara Parish is one of them. She used to work as a fund-raising

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manager there. manager there.

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Why did you leave? Why did you leave?

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Why did you leave? Because I was really very, very

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Because I was really very, very Because I was really very, very

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Because I was really very, very unhappy with the way in which the

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unhappy with the way in which the charity was moving.

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charity was moving. charity was moving.

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It was no longer a charity. It was no longer a charity.

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It was no longer a charity. It had become a hard-nosed business.

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It had become a hard-nosed business. It had become a hard-nosed business.

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You saw the development of officers, You saw the development of officers,

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You saw the development of officers, the recruitment of more and more

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senior people. senior people.

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What do you mean? What do you mean?

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The balance was swaying The balance was swaying

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The balance was swaying tremendously in favour of the

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tremendously in favour of the tremendously in favour of the

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upkeep of the charity - salaries, upkeep of the charity - salaries,

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upkeep of the charity - salaries, cars, the recruitment of more and

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cars, the recruitment of more and more senior personnel.

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more senior personnel. more senior personnel.

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One of those senior personnel was One of those senior personnel was

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One of those senior personnel was One of those senior personnel was

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the head of PR and was paid through the head of PR and was paid through

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the head of PR and was paid through a public relations company called

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Loquendi. Loquendi.

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Loquendi. Did you know about Loquendi?

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Did you know about Loquendi? Did you know about Loquendi?

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Yes, I had heard of Loquendi, Yes, I had heard of Loquendi,

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Yes, I had heard of Loquendi, Yes, I had heard of Loquendi,

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because Andy, the CEO of the Air because Andy, the CEO of the Air

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because Andy, the CEO of the Air Ambulance, was married to the

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Ambulance, was married to the director of Loquendi.

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director of Loquendi. director of Loquendi.

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And Loquendi, I know, organised And Loquendi, I know, organised

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And Loquendi, I know, organised events that benefited the air

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ambulance. ambulance.

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ambulance. Barbara also says Loquendi helped

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Barbara also says Loquendi helped Barbara also says Loquendi helped

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book celebrities for charity events book celebrities for charity events

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book celebrities for charity events book celebrities for charity events

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and that they were paid for their appearances.

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appearances. appearances.

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What is wrong with celebrity What is wrong with celebrity

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What is wrong with celebrity endorsement, if it brings in money?

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endorsement, if it brings in money? endorsement, if it brings in money?

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endorsement, if it brings in money? It depends on how it is promoted,

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It depends on how it is promoted, It depends on how it is promoted,

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whether it is perceived that whether it is perceived that

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whether it is perceived that somebody is appearing free of

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somebody is appearing free of somebody is appearing free of

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charge. What element is charged and charge. What element is charged and

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charge. What element is charged and charge. What element is charged and

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what profit is made from the event. what profit is made from the event.

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The charity's spending on The charity's spending on

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The charity's spending on celebrities, it seems, was not only

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celebrities, it seems, was not only confined to fundraising events.

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confined to fundraising events. confined to fundraising events.

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Barbara also told me she remembers Barbara also told me she remembers

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a staff party. a staff party.

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a staff party. a staff party.

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It was in this village hall in Dunchurch, Rugby.

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Dunchurch, Rugby. Dunchurch, Rugby.

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Dunchurch, Rugby. Anton Du Beke and Erin Boag, from

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Anton Du Beke and Erin Boag, from Anton Du Beke and Erin Boag, from

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BBC's Strictly Come Dancing, were BBC's Strictly Come Dancing, were

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BBC's Strictly Come Dancing, were invited to give dancing lessons to

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the staff. the staff.

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the staff. It was organised by the chief

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It was organised by the chief executive, Andy Williamson.

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executive, Andy Williamson. executive, Andy Williamson.

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She claims it cost the charity She claims it cost the charity

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several thousand pounds. several thousand pounds.

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several thousand pounds. several thousand pounds.

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She also claims that she was paid a She also claims that she was paid a

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�3,500 performance-related bonus - �3,500 performance-related bonus -

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something she now regrets. something she now regrets.

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something she now regrets. According to their latest accounts,

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According to their latest accounts, Andy Williamson, the Air

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Andy Williamson, the Air Ambulance's chief executive, is

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Ambulance's chief executive, is Ambulance's chief executive, is

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paid between �110,000 and �119,000. paid between �110,000 and �119,000.

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paid between �110,000 and �119,000. paid between �110,000 and �119,000.

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paid between �110,000 and �119,000. I have come to Coventry Airport. It

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I have come to Coventry Airport. It I have come to Coventry Airport. It

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is home of The Air Ambulance is home of The Air Ambulance

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is home of The Air Ambulance Service and where he is based.

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Service and where he is based. Service and where he is based.

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Service and where he is based. Why did you choose the name Air

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Ambulance Service? Ambulance Service?

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Ambulance Service? Well, the Air Ambulance Service is

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Well, the Air Ambulance Service is Well, the Air Ambulance Service is

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Well, the Air Ambulance Service is a good reflection of what we are

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actually doing. actually doing.

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actually doing. actually doing.

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The CEO of Lincs & Notts Air The CEO of Lincs & Notts Air

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The CEO of Lincs & Notts Air Ambulance has complained that you

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Ambulance has complained that you have been dropping charity

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have been dropping charity have been dropping charity

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collection bags in their area and confusing donors.

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confusing donors. confusing donors.

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confusing donors. In one week alone, they received 42

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In one week alone, they received 42 In one week alone, they received 42

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In one week alone, they received 42 complaints from its donors - all of

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complaints from its donors - all of complaints from its donors - all of

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complaints from its donors - all of which takes time and money to try

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which takes time and money to try which takes time and money to try

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and address. We operate nationwide. and address. We operate nationwide.

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and address. We operate nationwide. The Air Ambulance Service engages

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The Air Ambulance Service engages The Air Ambulance Service engages

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in fundraising wherever we are, so, in fundraising wherever we are, so,

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in fundraising wherever we are, so, therefore, we need to collect. We

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therefore, we need to collect. We therefore, we need to collect. We

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need to raise money, because �2 need to raise money, because �2

:08:03.:08:04.

need to raise money, because �2 million a year is the Children's

:08:04.:08:05.

Air Ambulance. Air Ambulance.

:08:05.:08:06.

Air Ambulance. Is it appropriate for your charity

:08:06.:08:07.

Is it appropriate for your charity Is it appropriate for your charity

:08:07.:08:08.

to have paid Loquendi for services, to have paid Loquendi for services,

:08:08.:08:09.

to have paid Loquendi for services, when its director is your wife?

:08:09.:08:10.

when its director is your wife? when its director is your wife?

:08:10.:08:11.

when its director is your wife? It is not any kind of conflict. We

:08:11.:08:12.

It is not any kind of conflict. We It is not any kind of conflict. We

:08:12.:08:13.

are looking at whatever services are looking at whatever services

:08:13.:08:14.

are looking at whatever services are looking at whatever services

:08:14.:08:14.

that we need to provide for our that we need to provide for our

:08:14.:08:15.

that we need to provide for our staff for our organisation, because

:08:15.:08:16.

staff for our organisation, because staff for our organisation, because

:08:16.:08:17.

staff for our organisation, because in the end, we have to deliver very

:08:17.:08:18.

in the end, we have to deliver very substantial sums, to deliver

:08:18.:08:19.

patient care. patient care.

:08:19.:08:20.

patient care. patient care.

:08:20.:08:21.

Did you have any hand in her appointment?

:08:21.:08:21.

Who

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Who did?

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Who did? We

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We have

:08:22.:08:22.

Who did? We have a

:08:22.:08:22.

We have a board

:08:22.:08:22.

Who did? We have a board of

:08:22.:08:23.

We have a board of trustees

:08:23.:08:23.

Who did? We have a board of trustees that

:08:23.:08:23.

We have a board of trustees that ensure

:08:23.:08:23.

ensure that

:08:23.:08:24.

We have a board of trustees that ensure that all

:08:24.:08:24.

ensure that all our

:08:24.:08:24.

We have a board of trustees that ensure that all our processes

:08:24.:08:24.

ensure that all our processes and

:08:24.:08:25.

ensure that all our processes and all

:08:25.:08:25.

all our

:08:25.:08:25.

ensure that all our processes and all our governance

:08:25.:08:25.

all our governance is

:08:25.:08:26.

ensure that all our processes and all our governance is absolutely

:08:26.:08:26.

all our governance is absolutely correct.

:08:26.:08:26.

correct. So

:08:26.:08:26.

So you

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correct. So you think

:08:27.:08:27.

So you think your

:08:27.:08:27.

correct. So you think your wife

:08:27.:08:27.

So you think your wife is

:08:27.:08:28.

correct. So you think your wife is the

:08:28.:08:28.

So you think your wife is the best

:08:28.:08:28.

So you think your wife is the best person

:08:28.:08:28.

person for

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So you think your wife is the best person for that

:08:29.:08:29.

person for that job?

:08:29.:08:29.

person for that job? Well,

:08:29.:08:29.

Well, absolutely.

:08:29.:08:31.

Well, absolutely. You

:08:31.:08:31.

You paid

:08:31.:08:31.

Well, absolutely. You paid Strictly

:08:31.:08:32.

You paid Strictly Come

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Well, absolutely. You paid Strictly Come Dancing

:08:32.:08:32.

You paid Strictly Come Dancing celebrities.

:08:32.:08:34.

celebrities. It

:08:34.:08:34.

You paid Strictly Come Dancing celebrities. It cost

:08:34.:08:34.

celebrities. It cost several

:08:34.:08:34.

celebrities. It cost several thousand

:08:34.:08:35.

thousand pounds

:08:35.:08:35.

celebrities. It cost several thousand pounds to

:08:35.:08:35.

thousand pounds to have

:08:35.:08:35.

celebrities. It cost several thousand pounds to have an

:08:35.:08:36.

thousand pounds to have an away-day

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thousand pounds to have an away-day moral

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moral boosting

:08:36.:08:36.

thousand pounds to have an away-day moral boosting afternoon.

:08:36.:08:38.

moral boosting afternoon. Is

:08:38.:08:38.

thousand pounds to have an away-day moral boosting afternoon. Is that

:08:38.:08:38.

moral boosting afternoon. Is that really

:08:39.:08:39.

really appropriate

:08:39.:08:39.

moral boosting afternoon. Is that really appropriate for

:08:39.:08:39.

really appropriate for money

:08:39.:08:39.

moral boosting afternoon. Is that really appropriate for money to

:08:39.:08:40.

really appropriate for money to be

:08:40.:08:40.

really appropriate for money to be spent

:08:40.:08:40.

spent that

:08:40.:08:40.

really appropriate for money to be spent that way?

:08:40.:08:45.

spent that way? Again,

:08:45.:08:45.

Again, it

:08:45.:08:45.

spent that way? Again, it is

:08:45.:08:46.

Again, it is about

:08:46.:08:46.

spent that way? Again, it is about what

:08:46.:08:46.

Again, it is about what we

:08:46.:08:46.

spent that way? Again, it is about what we do

:08:46.:08:47.

Again, it is about what we do for

:08:47.:08:47.

Again, it is about what we do for our

:08:47.:08:47.

our patients,

:08:47.:08:47.

Again, it is about what we do for our patients, because...

:08:47.:08:50.

our patients, because... But

:08:50.:08:50.

But that

:08:50.:08:50.

our patients, because... But that is

:08:50.:08:51.

But that is not

:08:51.:08:51.

our patients, because... But that is not for

:08:51.:08:51.

But that is not for patients.

:08:51.:08:51.

our patients, because... But that is not for patients. That

:08:51.:08:52.

But that is not for patients. That is

:08:52.:08:52.

is for

:08:52.:08:52.

But that is not for patients. That is for the

:08:52.:08:52.

is for the staff.

:08:52.:08:53.

is for the staff. Everything

:08:53.:08:54.

Everything is

:08:54.:08:54.

is for the staff. Everything is about

:08:54.:08:54.

Everything is about patients,

:08:54.:08:54.

Everything is about patients, because

:08:55.:08:55.

because however

:08:55.:08:55.

Everything is about patients, because however many

:08:55.:08:55.

because however many staff

:08:55.:08:55.

Everything is about patients, because however many staff we

:08:55.:08:56.

because however many staff we have,

:08:56.:08:56.

because however many staff we have, we

:08:56.:08:56.

we need

:08:56.:08:56.

because however many staff we have, we need to

:08:56.:08:57.

we need to keep

:08:57.:08:57.

because however many staff we have, we need to keep them

:08:57.:08:57.

we need to keep them motivated,

:08:57.:08:57.

because however many staff we have, we need to keep them motivated, we

:08:57.:08:58.

we need to keep them motivated, we need

:08:58.:08:58.

need to

:08:58.:08:58.

we need to keep them motivated, we need to keep

:08:58.:08:58.

need to keep them

:08:59.:08:59.

we need to keep them motivated, we need to keep them focussed

:08:59.:08:59.

need to keep them focussed on

:08:59.:08:59.

need to keep them focussed on delivering

:08:59.:08:59.

delivering their

:09:00.:09:00.

need to keep them focussed on delivering their particular

:09:00.:09:00.

delivering their particular role.

:09:00.:09:03.

delivering their particular role. That

:09:03.:09:04.

That ensures

:09:04.:09:04.

delivering their particular role. That ensures that

:09:04.:09:04.

That ensures that we

:09:04.:09:04.

delivering their particular role. That ensures that we deliver

:09:04.:09:05.

That ensures that we deliver that

:09:05.:09:05.

That ensures that we deliver that patient

:09:05.:09:05.

patient care.

:09:05.:09:09.

patient care. This

:09:09.:09:09.

This helicopter

:09:09.:09:09.

patient care. This helicopter will

:09:10.:09:10.

This helicopter will cost

:09:10.:09:10.

patient care. This helicopter will cost �2

:09:10.:09:10.

This helicopter will cost �2 million

:09:10.:09:10.

million a

:09:11.:09:11.

This helicopter will cost �2 million a year

:09:11.:09:11.

million a year to

:09:11.:09:11.

This helicopter will cost �2 million a year to operate.

:09:11.:09:13.

million a year to operate. In

:09:13.:09:13.

This helicopter will cost �2 million a year to operate. In the

:09:13.:09:13.

million a year to operate. In the last

:09:13.:09:13.

last month,

:09:14.:09:14.

million a year to operate. In the last month, it

:09:14.:09:14.

last month, it has

:09:14.:09:14.

million a year to operate. In the last month, it has transported

:09:14.:09:14.

last month, it has transported four

:09:15.:09:15.

last month, it has transported four medical

:09:15.:09:15.

medical teams.

:09:15.:09:17.

last month, it has transported four medical teams. So

:09:17.:09:17.

medical teams. So far,

:09:17.:09:17.

last month, it has transported four medical teams. So far, it

:09:17.:09:17.

medical teams. So far, it has

:09:17.:09:18.

last month, it has transported four medical teams. So far, it has not

:09:18.:09:18.

medical teams. So far, it has not transferred

:09:18.:09:18.

transferred a

:09:18.:09:19.

medical teams. So far, it has not transferred a single

:09:19.:09:19.

transferred a single child,

:09:19.:09:19.

medical teams. So far, it has not transferred a single child, but

:09:19.:09:19.

transferred a single child, but he

:09:19.:09:19.

transferred a single child, but he believes

:09:20.:09:20.

believes it

:09:20.:09:20.

transferred a single child, but he believes it will

:09:20.:09:20.

believes it will by

:09:20.:09:21.

transferred a single child, but he believes it will by Spring.

:09:21.:09:29.

believes it will by Spring. The

:09:29.:09:30.

The Air

:09:30.:09:30.

believes it will by Spring. The Air Ambulance

:09:30.:09:30.

The Air Ambulance Service

:09:30.:09:30.

believes it will by Spring. The Air Ambulance Service are

:09:30.:09:31.

The Air Ambulance Service are not

:09:31.:09:31.

The Air Ambulance Service are not the

:09:31.:09:31.

the only

:09:31.:09:31.

The Air Ambulance Service are not the only ones

:09:31.:09:32.

the only ones looking

:09:32.:09:32.

The Air Ambulance Service are not the only ones looking at

:09:32.:09:32.

the only ones looking at providing

:09:32.:09:32.

the only ones looking at providing a

:09:32.:09:33.

a national

:09:33.:09:33.

the only ones looking at providing a national air

:09:33.:09:33.

a national air transfer

:09:33.:09:33.

the only ones looking at providing a national air transfer service.

:09:33.:09:34.

a national air transfer service. The

:09:34.:09:34.

The NHS

:09:34.:09:34.

a national air transfer service. The NHS has

:09:34.:09:34.

The NHS has just

:09:34.:09:35.

a national air transfer service. The NHS has just commissioned

:09:35.:09:35.

The NHS has just commissioned a

:09:35.:09:35.

The NHS has just commissioned a report,

:09:35.:09:35.

report, looking

:09:35.:09:36.

The NHS has just commissioned a report, looking at

:09:36.:09:36.

report, looking at how

:09:36.:09:36.

The NHS has just commissioned a report, looking at how it

:09:36.:09:36.

report, looking at how it can

:09:36.:09:37.

The NHS has just commissioned a report, looking at how it can be

:09:37.:09:37.

report, looking at how it can be achieved.

:09:37.:09:37.

achieved. And

:09:37.:09:37.

And who

:09:37.:09:38.

achieved. And who will

:09:38.:09:38.

And who will provide

:09:38.:09:38.

achieved. And who will provide it.

:09:38.:09:38.

And who will provide it. We

:09:38.:09:39.

We have

:09:39.:09:39.

And who will provide it. We have obtained

:09:39.:09:39.

We have obtained a

:09:39.:09:39.

And who will provide it. We have obtained a leaked

:09:39.:09:40.

We have obtained a leaked copy.

:09:40.:09:41.

We have obtained a leaked copy. This

:09:41.:09:41.

This draft

:09:41.:09:42.

We have obtained a leaked copy. This draft report

:09:42.:09:42.

This draft report recommends

:09:42.:09:42.

This draft report recommends setting

:09:42.:09:42.

setting up

:09:42.:09:43.

This draft report recommends setting up a

:09:43.:09:43.

setting up a network

:09:43.:09:43.

This draft report recommends setting up a network of

:09:43.:09:43.

setting up a network of different

:09:43.:09:44.

setting up a network of different providers,

:09:44.:09:44.

providers, including

:09:44.:09:44.

setting up a network of different providers, including regional

:09:44.:09:44.

providers, including regional air

:09:44.:09:45.

providers, including regional air ambulances.

:09:45.:09:48.

ambulances. But

:09:48.:09:48.

But looking

:09:48.:09:48.

ambulances. But looking at

:09:48.:09:49.

But looking at the

:09:49.:09:49.

ambulances. But looking at the report,

:09:49.:09:49.

But looking at the report, it

:09:49.:09:49.

ambulances. But looking at the report, it is

:09:49.:09:50.

But looking at the report, it is apparent

:09:50.:09:50.

apparent that

:09:50.:09:50.

But looking at the report, it is apparent that a

:09:50.:09:50.

apparent that a single

:09:50.:09:51.

But looking at the report, it is apparent that a single helicopter

:09:51.:09:51.

apparent that a single helicopter ambulance

:09:51.:09:51.

ambulance based

:09:51.:09:51.

apparent that a single helicopter ambulance based in

:09:52.:09:52.

ambulance based in Coventry

:09:52.:09:52.

apparent that a single helicopter ambulance based in Coventry would

:09:52.:09:52.

ambulance based in Coventry would not

:09:52.:09:52.

not be

:09:52.:09:53.

ambulance based in Coventry would not be able

:09:53.:09:53.

not be able to

:09:53.:09:53.

ambulance based in Coventry would not be able to meet

:09:53.:09:53.

not be able to meet the

:09:54.:09:54.

ambulance based in Coventry would not be able to meet the emergency

:09:54.:09:54.

not be able to meet the emergency response

:09:54.:09:54.

response times

:09:54.:09:54.

not be able to meet the emergency response times for

:09:54.:09:55.

response times for all

:09:55.:09:55.

not be able to meet the emergency response times for all parts

:09:55.:09:55.

response times for all parts of

:09:55.:09:55.

not be able to meet the emergency response times for all parts of the

:09:55.:09:57.

response times for all parts of the country.

:09:57.:10:00.

country. And

:10:00.:10:00.

And even

:10:01.:10:01.

country. And even if

:10:01.:10:01.

And even if it

:10:01.:10:01.

country. And even if it could,

:10:01.:10:01.

And even if it could, less

:10:02.:10:02.

country. And even if it could, less than

:10:02.:10:02.

And even if it could, less than a

:10:02.:10:02.

And even if it could, less than a quarter

:10:02.:10:02.

quarter of

:10:02.:10:03.

And even if it could, less than a quarter of our

:10:03.:10:03.

quarter of our hospitals

:10:03.:10:03.

And even if it could, less than a quarter of our hospitals have

:10:03.:10:04.

quarter of our hospitals have a

:10:04.:10:04.

quarter of our hospitals have a helipad

:10:04.:10:04.

helipad for

:10:04.:10:04.

quarter of our hospitals have a helipad for it

:10:04.:10:04.

helipad for it to

:10:04.:10:05.

quarter of our hospitals have a helipad for it to land

:10:05.:10:05.

helipad for it to land on.

:10:05.:10:15.
:10:15.:10:19.

helipad for it to land on. In

:10:19.:10:19.

In the

:10:19.:10:20.

helipad for it to land on. In the meantime,

:10:20.:10:20.

In the meantime, the

:10:20.:10:20.

helipad for it to land on. In the meantime, the arguments

:10:20.:10:20.

In the meantime, the arguments continue

:10:20.:10:21.

continue over

:10:21.:10:21.

In the meantime, the arguments continue over the

:10:21.:10:21.

continue over the way

:10:21.:10:21.

In the meantime, the arguments continue over the way the

:10:21.:10:22.

continue over the way the Air

:10:22.:10:22.

continue over the way the Air Ambulance

:10:22.:10:22.

Ambulance Service

:10:22.:10:22.

continue over the way the Air Ambulance Service is

:10:22.:10:23.

Ambulance Service is using

:10:23.:10:23.

continue over the way the Air Ambulance Service is using its

:10:23.:10:23.

Ambulance Service is using its children's

:10:23.:10:23.

children's helicopter

:10:23.:10:24.

Ambulance Service is using its children's helicopter to

:10:24.:10:24.

children's helicopter to raise

:10:24.:10:24.

children's helicopter to raise money

:10:24.:10:24.

money and

:10:24.:10:25.

children's helicopter to raise money and how

:10:25.:10:25.

money and how that

:10:25.:10:25.

children's helicopter to raise money and how that is

:10:25.:10:25.

money and how that is impacting

:10:25.:10:26.

children's helicopter to raise money and how that is impacting on

:10:26.:10:26.

money and how that is impacting on our

:10:26.:10:26.

our local

:10:26.:10:26.

money and how that is impacting on our local services.

:10:26.:10:27.

our local services. We

:10:27.:10:27.

We have

:10:27.:10:27.

our local services. We have been

:10:27.:10:27.

We have been operating

:10:27.:10:28.

our local services. We have been operating since

:10:28.:10:28.

We have been operating since 1994.

:10:28.:10:28.

We have been operating since 1994. The

:10:28.:10:28.

The charity

:10:28.:10:29.

We have been operating since 1994. The charity was

:10:29.:10:29.

The charity was set

:10:29.:10:29.

We have been operating since 1994. The charity was set up

:10:29.:10:29.

The charity was set up in

:10:29.:10:30.

We have been operating since 1994. The charity was set up in 1993,

:10:30.:10:30.

The charity was set up in 1993, so

:10:30.:10:30.

The charity was set up in 1993, so we

:10:30.:10:30.

we have

:10:30.:10:31.

The charity was set up in 1993, so we have been

:10:31.:10:31.

we have been operating

:10:31.:10:31.

The charity was set up in 1993, so we have been operating for

:10:31.:10:31.

we have been operating for 18

:10:31.:10:32.

The charity was set up in 1993, so we have been operating for 18 years

:10:32.:10:32.

we have been operating for 18 years now

:10:32.:10:32.

now and

:10:32.:10:32.

we have been operating for 18 years now and the

:10:32.:10:33.

now and the number

:10:33.:10:33.

we have been operating for 18 years now and the number of

:10:33.:10:33.

now and the number of supporters

:10:33.:10:33.

we have been operating for 18 years now and the number of supporters we

:10:33.:10:34.

now and the number of supporters we have

:10:34.:10:34.

have got

:10:34.:10:34.

now and the number of supporters we have got has

:10:34.:10:34.

have got has grown

:10:34.:10:35.

now and the number of supporters we have got has grown steadily

:10:35.:10:35.

have got has grown steadily year-

:10:35.:10:35.

have got has grown steadily year- on-year

:10:35.:10:35.

on-year and

:10:35.:10:36.

have got has grown steadily year- on-year and this

:10:36.:10:36.

on-year and this is

:10:36.:10:36.

have got has grown steadily year- on-year and this is really

:10:36.:10:36.

on-year and this is really what

:10:36.:10:37.

on-year and this is really what keeps

:10:37.:10:37.

keeps the

:10:37.:10:37.

on-year and this is really what keeps the whole

:10:37.:10:37.

keeps the whole service

:10:38.:10:38.

on-year and this is really what keeps the whole service going.

:10:38.:10:38.

keeps the whole service going. If

:10:38.:10:38.

keeps the whole service going. If they

:10:38.:10:38.

they do

:10:38.:10:39.

keeps the whole service going. If they do not

:10:39.:10:39.

they do not support

:10:39.:10:39.

keeps the whole service going. If they do not support us,

:10:39.:10:39.

they do not support us, we

:10:39.:10:40.

keeps the whole service going. If they do not support us, we cannot

:10:40.:10:40.

they do not support us, we cannot afford

:10:40.:10:40.

afford to

:10:40.:10:40.

they do not support us, we cannot afford to pay

:10:41.:10:41.

afford to pay for

:10:41.:10:41.

they do not support us, we cannot afford to pay for the

:10:41.:10:41.

afford to pay for the helicopter.

:10:41.:10:48.

afford to pay for the helicopter. If

:10:48.:10:48.

If the

:10:48.:10:48.

afford to pay for the helicopter. If the opportunity

:10:48.:10:48.

If the opportunity to

:10:48.:10:49.

afford to pay for the helicopter. If the opportunity to raise

:10:49.:10:49.

If the opportunity to raise funds

:10:49.:10:49.

If the opportunity to raise funds for

:10:49.:10:50.

for the

:10:50.:10:50.

If the opportunity to raise funds for the local

:10:50.:10:50.

for the local air

:10:50.:10:50.

If the opportunity to raise funds for the local air ambulance

:10:50.:10:50.

for the local air ambulance are

:10:50.:10:51.

for the local air ambulance are diminished,

:10:51.:10:51.

diminished, there

:10:51.:10:51.

for the local air ambulance are diminished, there is

:10:51.:10:51.

diminished, there is a

:10:51.:10:52.

for the local air ambulance are diminished, there is a real

:10:52.:10:52.

diminished, there is a real likelihood

:10:52.:10:52.

likelihood you

:10:52.:10:52.

diminished, there is a real likelihood you will

:10:52.:10:53.

likelihood you will jeopordise

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diminished, there is a real likelihood you will jeopordise that

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likelihood you will jeopordise that service

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service and

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likelihood you will jeopordise that service and jeopordise

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service and jeopordise people's

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service and jeopordise people's lives.

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lives. Matthew

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Matthew Hill

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lives. Matthew Hill reporting.

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Matthew Hill reporting. Next

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Next tonight,

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Matthew Hill reporting. Next tonight, not

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Next tonight, not far

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Matthew Hill reporting. Next tonight, not far from

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Next tonight, not far from here

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Next tonight, not far from here back

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back in

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Next tonight, not far from here back in the

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back in the 1930s,

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Next tonight, not far from here back in the 1930s, a

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back in the 1930s, a social

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back in the 1930s, a social experiment

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experiment took

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back in the 1930s, a social experiment took place

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experiment took place aimed

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back in the 1930s, a social experiment took place aimed at

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experiment took place aimed at tackling

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tackling unemployment.

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tackling unemployment. In

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In 1930,

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tackling unemployment. In 1930, following

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In 1930, following the

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tackling unemployment. In 1930, following the Great

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In 1930, following the Great Depression,

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Depression, there

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In 1930, following the Great Depression, there was

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Depression, there was a

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In 1930, following the Great Depression, there was a vast

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Depression, there was a vast army

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Depression, there was a vast army of

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of men

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Depression, there was a vast army of men out

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of men out of

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Depression, there was a vast army of men out of work.

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of men out of work. Here

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Depression, there was a vast army of men out of work. Here in

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of men out of work. Here in a

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of men out of work. Here in a hidden

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hidden corner

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of men out of work. Here in a hidden corner of

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hidden corner of Derbyshire,

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of men out of work. Here in a hidden corner of Derbyshire, they

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hidden corner of Derbyshire, they tried

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tried a

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hidden corner of Derbyshire, they tried a new

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tried a new approach.

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tried a new approach. Could

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Could something

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tried a new approach. Could something similar

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Could something similar work

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tried a new approach. Could something similar work today?

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Could something similar work today? Broadcaster

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Broadcaster Barbara

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Could something similar work today? Broadcaster Barbara Jacobs

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Broadcaster Barbara Jacobs takes

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Could something similar work today? Broadcaster Barbara Jacobs takes up

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Broadcaster Barbara Jacobs takes up the

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the story.

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West

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West of

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West of the

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West of the Derwent Valley stands a West of the Derwent Valley stands a

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West of the Derwent Valley stands a medieval woodland that has inspired

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medieval woodland that has inspired medieval woodland that has inspired

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artists and writers for years. artists and writers for years.

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artists and writers for years. This is the beautiful Shining Cliff

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This is the beautiful Shining Cliff This is the beautiful Shining Cliff

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Woods, the inspiration for nursery Woods, the inspiration for nursery

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rhyme Rock-a-bye, Baby. rhyme Rock-a-bye, Baby.

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rhyme Rock-a-bye, Baby. rhyme Rock-a-bye, Baby.

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It was also the cradle of a social It was also the cradle of a social

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experiment 80 years ago. experiment 80 years ago.

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experiment 80 years ago. This was 1930's Britain during the

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This was 1930's Britain during the Great Depression - widescale

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Great Depression - widescale unemployment and soup kitchens.

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unemployment and soup kitchens. unemployment and soup kitchens.

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But a group of socialist academics But a group of socialist academics

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had an idea. had an idea.

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had an idea. had an idea.

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They wanted to offer a fresh start, They wanted to offer a fresh start,

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They wanted to offer a fresh start, to give jobless men confidence and

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motivation. motivation.

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motivation. It was called GrythFryd, which

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It was called GrythFryd, which means Peace Army.

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means Peace Army. means Peace Army.

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These camps are small self-governed These camps are small self-governed

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These camps are small self-governed communities where young men of all

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communities where young men of all communities where young men of all

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classes can develop themselves both classes can develop themselves both

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physically and mentally. physically and mentally.

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physically and mentally. physically and mentally.

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One of their camps was in Shining Cliff Wood.

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Cliff Wood. Cliff Wood.

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They still run courses here in They still run courses here in

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self-sufficiency and bushcraft. self-sufficiency and bushcraft.

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self-sufficiency and bushcraft. So I wondered, could a similar

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So I wondered, could a similar So I wondered, could a similar

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approach work 80 years later? approach work 80 years later?

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approach work 80 years later? approach work 80 years later?

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After all, we are in the perfect After all, we are in the perfect

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After all, we are in the perfect economic climate to test that out.

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economic climate to test that out. economic climate to test that out.

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economic climate to test that out. We have not got months, but Inside

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We have not got months, but Inside We have not got months, but Inside

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Out went looking for some willing Out went looking for some willing

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Out went looking for some willing volunteers to take up the challenge

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volunteers to take up the challenge A few weeks later, we have found

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our recruits. our recruits.

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our recruits. our recruits.

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Craig is 22 and desperate to get Craig is 22 and desperate to get

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into the armed forces. into the armed forces.

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into the armed forces. into the armed forces.

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Lee is 18 and wants a career in retail.

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retail. retail.

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22-year-old Wesley is an aspiring illustrator.

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illustrator. illustrator.

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And unemployed writer Alex is 39 And unemployed writer Alex is 39

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And unemployed writer Alex is 39 And unemployed writer Alex is 39

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and soon to be a dad of twins. and soon to be a dad of twins.

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and soon to be a dad of twins. They have all been unemployed for

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They have all been unemployed for more than a year.

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more than a year. more than a year.

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They are feeling frustrated and They are feeling frustrated and

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want to make changes. want to make changes.

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want to make changes. want to make changes.

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want to make changes. And this is the man who is going to

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And this is the man who is going to And this is the man who is going to

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And this is the man who is going to show them the way - camp leader

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Paul Booker. Paul Booker.

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Paul Booker. He is an expert in running

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He is an expert in running He is an expert in running

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wilderness courses and will give wilderness courses and will give

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wilderness courses and will give wilderness courses and will give

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our recruits a taste of the life our recruits a taste of the life

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our recruits a taste of the life that the Grith pioneers would have

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that the Grith pioneers would have endured for years.

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endured for years. endured for years.

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It was all about self-sufficiency It was all about self-sufficiency

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It was all about self-sufficiency with no modern conveniences.

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with no modern conveniences. with no modern conveniences.

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with no modern conveniences. you come along the here and to your

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you come along the here and to your business in here.

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business in here. business in here.

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business in here. They have got to learn key survival

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They have got to learn key survival They have got to learn key survival

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They have got to learn key survival skills to get them through the next

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24 hours. 24 hours.

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24 hours. So first things first, making a

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shelter. shelter.

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shelter. shelter.

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shelter. Lee says he is up for it. I am just

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Lee says he is up for it. I am just Lee says he is up for it. I am just

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building my walls around my shelter building my walls around my shelter

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building my walls around my shelter building my walls around my shelter

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and I will be eating a squirrel and I will be eating a squirrel

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and I will be eating a squirrel later! By wanted to take a

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later! By wanted to take a later! By wanted to take a

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potential officers course to get potential officers course to get

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potential officers course to get into the armed forces. But is

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into the armed forces. But is into the armed forces. But is

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into the armed forces. But is looking good, but I am a bit

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looking good, but I am a bit looking good, but I am a bit

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looking good, but I am a bit worried that it looks more like a

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worried that it looks more like a worried that it looks more like a

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worried that it looks more like a wind tunnel. I tend to find that

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wind tunnel. I tend to find that wind tunnel. I tend to find that

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wind tunnel. I tend to find that when I first meet people, I do not

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when I first meet people, I do not when I first meet people, I do not

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when I first meet people, I do not expect much of them and do not

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expect much of them and do not expect much of them and do not

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really trust them. When I make really trust them. When I make

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really trust them. When I make people that are totally out of

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people that are totally out of people that are totally out of

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bounds from the people I normally bounds from the people I normally

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bounds from the people I normally bounds from the people I normally

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be with, that can only help me in be with, that can only help me in

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be with, that can only help me in be with, that can only help me in

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life. You can do all sorts with life. You can do all sorts with

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life. You can do all sorts with life. You can do all sorts with

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this. Here is to be British log! I this. Here is to be British log! I

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this. Here is to be British log! I this. Here is to be British log! I

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was doing a lot of sales work for was doing a lot of sales work for

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was doing a lot of sales work for was doing a lot of sales work for

:15:23.:15:26.

many years and wanted to get more many years and wanted to get more

:15:26.:15:27.

many years and wanted to get more many years and wanted to get more

:15:27.:15:29.

into writing. I had a number of into writing. I had a number of

:15:29.:15:31.

into writing. I had a number of health issues which not me sideways

:15:31.:15:32.

health issues which not me sideways health issues which not me sideways

:15:32.:15:36.

health issues which not me sideways and I am looking to bring myself

:15:36.:15:42.

and I am looking to bring myself and I am looking to bring myself

:15:43.:15:43.

and I am looking to bring myself back-up. A I kept applying for jobs,

:15:43.:15:44.

back-up. A I kept applying for jobs, back-up. A I kept applying for jobs,

:15:44.:15:45.

back-up. A I kept applying for jobs, but I would not be accepted because

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but I would not be accepted because but I would not be accepted because

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but I would not be accepted because I did not have a driving licence or

:15:48.:15:51.

I did not have a driving licence or I did not have a driving licence or

:15:51.:15:52.

enough experience. You have to be enough experience. You have to be

:15:52.:15:53.

enough experience. You have to be enough experience. You have to be

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very careful with this, it is very sharp.

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sharp. sharp.

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sharp. Back in the 1930s, the men had to

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Back in the 1930s, the men had to Back in the 1930s, the men had to

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construct a huge campsite from construct a huge campsite from

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construct a huge campsite from scratch, including making pig sties,

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scratch, including making pig sties, digging allotments and building

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huts. huts.

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huts. Jill Jones is the granddaughter of

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Jill Jones is the granddaughter of Jill Jones is the granddaughter of

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Norman Glaister, one of the Norman Glaister, one of the

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Norman Glaister, one of the academics who came up with the

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academics who came up with the academics who came up with the

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original peace army idea. original peace army idea.

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grandfather was involved with grandfather was involved with

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grandfather was involved with others in setting up the

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others in setting up the others in setting up the

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organisation. He was the socialist organisation. He was the socialist

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organisation. He was the socialist and anxious about the unemployment

:16:25.:16:25.

and anxious about the unemployment and anxious about the unemployment

:16:26.:16:27.

situation at the time. He thought situation at the time. He thought

:16:27.:16:28.

situation at the time. He thought situation at the time. He thought

:16:28.:16:29.

there could be a better way for there could be a better way for

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there could be a better way for people to use their leisure time.

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people to use their leisure time. people to use their leisure time.

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people to use their leisure time. 91 of those who went through the

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91 of those who went through the 91 of those who went through the

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91 of those who went through the 91 of those who went through the

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camp got a job at the end of it. camp got a job at the end of it.

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camp got a job at the end of it. Three other people went to

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university. university.

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university. university.

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That is a pretty good success rate. That is a pretty good success rate.

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That is a pretty good success rate. That is a pretty good success rate.

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But they had months in the woods. But they had months in the woods.

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But they had months in the woods. But they had months in the woods.

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All our volunteers need to do is to All our volunteers need to do is to

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All our volunteers need to do is to get through one night. I thing

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get through one night. I thing getting people outdoors and

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getting people outdoors and getting people outdoors and

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developing the sort of skills is developing the sort of skills is

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developing the sort of skills is very important. They are going to

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very important. They are going to very important. They are going to

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very important. They are going to mix with new people, do tasks that

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mix with new people, do tasks that mix with new people, do tasks that

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mix with new people, do tasks that they have not done before. It is

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they have not done before. It is they have not done before. It is

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they have not done before. It is just a good learning point. That is

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just a good learning point. That is absolutely wonderful. Just been

:17:20.:17:21.

absolutely wonderful. Just been absolutely wonderful. Just been

:17:21.:17:23.

able to motivate themselves to get able to motivate themselves to get

:17:23.:17:24.

able to motivate themselves to get able to motivate themselves to get

:17:24.:17:26.

able to motivate themselves to get up and do it. They are out here and

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up and do it. They are out here and up and do it. They are out here and

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up and do it. They are out here and up and do it. They are out here and

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if they do not do it, no one else if they do not do it, no one else

:17:28.:17:29.

if they do not do it, no one else if they do not do it, no one else

:17:29.:17:32.

is going to do it for them. is going to do it for them.

:17:32.:17:35.

is going to do it for them. Compared to back-court, if you have

:17:35.:17:37.

Compared to back-court, if you have Compared to back-court, if you have

:17:37.:17:39.

Compared to back-court, if you have nothing to get up for, why bother?

:17:39.:17:41.

nothing to get up for, why bother? nothing to get up for, why bother?

:17:41.:17:42.

The need that motivation to make The need that motivation to make

:17:42.:17:46.

The need that motivation to make these changes in their lives.

:17:46.:17:47.

these changes in their lives. these changes in their lives.

:17:47.:17:48.

these changes in their lives. And if they were not out of their

:17:48.:17:49.

And if they were not out of their And if they were not out of their

:17:49.:17:49.

comfort zone already, the great comfort zone already, the great

:17:49.:17:50.

comfort zone already, the great British weather was there to finish

:17:50.:17:51.

the job. the job.

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the job. Well, that has dampened their

:17:52.:17:53.

Well, that has dampened their Well, that has dampened their

:17:53.:17:54.

enthusiasm, somewhat, but life in enthusiasm, somewhat, but life in

:17:54.:17:55.

enthusiasm, somewhat, but life in enthusiasm, somewhat, but life in

:17:55.:17:56.

the camp meant that you just had to the camp meant that you just had to

:17:56.:17:57.

the camp meant that you just had to the camp meant that you just had to

:17:57.:17:58.

get on with it, if you wanted to get on with it, if you wanted to

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get on with it, if you wanted to get on with it, if you wanted to

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eat that night. It is a fantastic eat that night. It is a fantastic

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eat that night. It is a fantastic -- insects. No joy like one of

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-- insects. No joy like one of -- insects. No joy like one of

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-- insects. No joy like one of these? My will, I have got a rule,

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these? My will, I have got a rule, these? My will, I have got a rule,

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these? My will, I have got a rule, that I do not eat anything that is

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moving. moving.

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moving. 80 years ago, the campers were

:18:31.:18:32.

80 years ago, the campers were 80 years ago, the campers were

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80 years ago, the campers were expected to grow their own food on

:18:33.:18:34.

expected to grow their own food on expected to grow their own food on

:18:34.:18:35.

their allotment, but with just 24 their allotment, but with just 24

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their allotment, but with just 24 their allotment, but with just 24

:18:36.:18:37.

hours, we have decided to give them hours, we have decided to give them

:18:37.:18:39.

a modern treat. a modern treat.

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a modern treat. a modern treat.

:18:40.:18:40.

Well, dinner is made, the fire is Well, dinner is made, the fire is

:18:41.:18:41.

Well, dinner is made, the fire is Well, dinner is made, the fire is

:18:42.:18:42.

Well, dinner is made, the fire is lit and I am going to leave them to

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:18:52.:18:54.

lit and I am going to leave them to It is an early start, but I am

:18:54.:18:55.

It is an early start, but I am It is an early start, but I am

:18:55.:18:56.

It is an early start, but I am anxious to see what impact the last

:18:56.:18:57.

anxious to see what impact the last anxious to see what impact the last

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anxious to see what impact the last 24 hours has had on our volunteers

:18:58.:18:59.

24 hours has had on our volunteers 24 hours has had on our volunteers

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24 hours has had on our volunteers and to find out whether the Gryth

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and to find out whether the Gryth and to find out whether the Gryth

:19:01.:19:11.
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philosophy has had an impact. philosophy has had an impact.

:19:13.:19:14.

philosophy has had an impact. philosophy has had an impact.

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think if you spent a long time here, think if you spent a long time here,

:19:16.:19:18.

think if you spent a long time here, it would definitely changed a live.

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it would definitely changed a live. it would definitely changed a live.

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it would definitely changed a live. it would definitely changed a live.

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Even in the space of a day, we are Even in the space of a day, we are

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Even in the space of a day, we are interacting with people you would

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interacting with people you would interacting with people you would

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interacting with people you would might not normally do. It is great.

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might not normally do. It is great. might not normally do. It is great.

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Living out in this environment for Living out in this environment for

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Living out in this environment for Living out in this environment for

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a couple of months, in the changer a couple of months, in the changer

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a couple of months, in the changer entire perspective on the likes of

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entire perspective on the likes of entire perspective on the likes of

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entire perspective on the likes of time. I can see the value of the

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time. I can see the value of the time. I can see the value of the

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experience, but whether or not it experience, but whether or not it

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experience, but whether or not it experience, but whether or not it

:19:46.:19:47.

experience, but whether or not it would be for me all the time I am

:19:47.:19:51.

would be for me all the time I am would be for me all the time I am

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would be for me all the time I am not sure. I will be untouched. -- N

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the touch. the touch.

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the touch. So what has happened since we

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So, maybe what have we found? Maybe So, maybe what have we found? Maybe

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So, maybe what have we found? Maybe So, maybe what have we found? Maybe

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the odd just needed to be picked on the path.

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the path. the path.

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the path. Craig and Lee are now working and

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Craig and Lee are now working and really enjoying it.

:20:29.:20:30.

really enjoying it. really enjoying it.

:20:30.:20:31.

really enjoying it. really enjoying it.

:20:31.:20:32.

Alex is now a dad of twins and is Alex is now a dad of twins and is

:20:32.:20:33.

Alex is now a dad of twins and is happy being a stay-at-home dad for

:20:33.:20:33.

happy being a stay-at-home dad for the time being.

:20:33.:20:34.

the time being. the time being.

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And Wesley is still looking for work.

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work. work.

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Hopefully, he will find it soon. Hopefully, he will find it soon.

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Hopefully, he will find it soon. Hopefully, he will find it soon.

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There was a time when tower blocks There was a time when tower blocks

:20:48.:20:48.

There was a time when tower blocks were acclaimed. As we have been

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were acclaimed. As we have been were acclaimed. As we have been

:20:51.:20:52.

finding out, the buildings may go, finding out, the buildings may go,

:20:52.:20:59.

finding out, the buildings may go, but community spirit can stay there.

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but community spirit can stay there. but community spirit can stay there.

:21:01.:21:03.

To work blocks were once acclaimed. To work blocks were once acclaimed.

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To work blocks were once acclaimed. A quick-fix solution to a housing

:21:04.:21:05.

A quick-fix solution to a housing A quick-fix solution to a housing

:21:05.:21:06.

A quick-fix solution to a housing crisis caused by the bombs of war

:21:06.:21:07.

crisis caused by the bombs of war crisis caused by the bombs of war

:21:07.:21:08.

and the dilapidated slums of peace time.

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time. time.

:21:09.:21:09.

They were streets of flats, They were streets of flats,

:21:09.:21:10.

They were streets of flats, designed to go up rather than

:21:10.:21:11.

designed to go up rather than designed to go up rather than

:21:11.:21:14.

across - and they were cheap. across - and they were cheap.

:21:14.:21:15.

across - and they were cheap. For the first time, buildings were

:21:15.:21:16.

For the first time, buildings were pre-fabricated and simply assembled

:21:16.:21:18.

on site. on site.

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on site. A flat-pack housing era was born.

:21:27.:21:28.

A flat-pack housing era was born. A flat-pack housing era was born.

:21:28.:21:31.

If you think about it, everybody If you think about it, everybody

:21:31.:21:33.

If you think about it, everybody If you think about it, everybody

:21:33.:21:33.

used to build bricks. It was the used to build bricks. It was the

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used to build bricks. It was the used to build bricks. It was the

:21:35.:21:36.

first time I had ever seen huge first time I had ever seen huge

:21:36.:21:38.

first time I had ever seen huge first time I had ever seen huge

:21:38.:21:39.

slabs of concrete been put in place slabs of concrete been put in place

:21:39.:21:42.

slabs of concrete been put in place slabs of concrete been put in place

:21:42.:21:43.

by a massive Meccano set. And they by a massive Meccano set. And they

:21:43.:21:46.

went up so quickly. went up so quickly.

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went up so quickly. went up so quickly.

:21:47.:21:48.

In 1965, a block of 600 flats was In 1965, a block of 600 flats was

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In 1965, a block of 600 flats was built, sprawling across the Hyson

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built, sprawling across the Hyson Green area of Nottingham.

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Green area of Nottingham. Green area of Nottingham.

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Green area of Nottingham. The first people to move in felt a

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The first people to move in felt a The first people to move in felt a

:21:55.:21:56.

sense of community that is still sense of community that is still

:21:56.:21:57.

sense of community that is still strong today and they came together

:21:57.:21:58.

strong today and they came together strong today and they came together

:21:58.:22:08.
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strong today and they came together to tell their story on film. It is

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to tell their story on film. It is to tell their story on film. It is

:22:12.:22:13.

absolute paradise, because when I absolute paradise, because when I

:22:13.:22:15.

absolute paradise, because when I absolute paradise, because when I

:22:15.:22:16.

had come from was the scullery and had come from was the scullery and

:22:16.:22:18.

had come from was the scullery and had come from was the scullery and

:22:18.:22:20.

a little room that none would be a little room that none would be

:22:20.:22:21.

a little room that none would be used. Then they were standing and

:22:22.:22:25.

used. Then they were standing and this fabulous place indoors.

:22:25.:22:26.

this fabulous place indoors. this fabulous place indoors.

:22:27.:22:27.

this fabulous place indoors. Helen Bates was part of the group

:22:27.:22:28.

Helen Bates was part of the group Helen Bates was part of the group

:22:28.:22:29.

Helen Bates was part of the group that made the film called on the

:22:29.:22:35.

that made the film called on the that made the film called on the

:22:35.:22:35.

that made the film called on the flats. They are idea was to find

:22:35.:22:37.

flats. They are idea was to find flats. They are idea was to find

:22:37.:22:40.

more about the Hyson Green flats. more about the Hyson Green flats.

:22:40.:22:41.

more about the Hyson Green flats. With their reputation, you would

:22:41.:22:43.

With their reputation, you would With their reputation, you would

:22:43.:22:45.

With their reputation, you would have think they were a kind hotbed,

:22:45.:22:46.

have think they were a kind hotbed, have think they were a kind hotbed,

:22:46.:22:49.

fill of drugs and prostitutes. But fill of drugs and prostitutes. But

:22:49.:22:50.

fill of drugs and prostitutes. But when we started doing the

:22:50.:22:52.

when we started doing the interviews, another picture totally

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interviews, another picture totally interviews, another picture totally

:22:55.:22:57.

emerged - many people had very emerged - many people had very

:22:57.:22:58.

emerged - many people had very happy memories of their experiences

:22:58.:23:07.

happy memories of their experiences happy memories of their experiences

:23:07.:23:13.

there. Those days were wicked.I there. Those days were wicked.I

:23:13.:23:15.

there. Those days were wicked.I there. Those days were wicked.I

:23:15.:23:17.

remember 10 of us carrying all of remember 10 of us carrying all of

:23:17.:23:19.

remember 10 of us carrying all of remember 10 of us carrying all of

:23:19.:23:21.

our were stuff. At the flats, it our were stuff. At the flats, it

:23:21.:23:24.

our were stuff. At the flats, it our were stuff. At the flats, it

:23:24.:23:25.

was a big playground. When the sun was a big playground. When the sun

:23:25.:23:29.

was a big playground. When the sun was a big playground. When the sun

:23:29.:23:30.

was shining, I was excited. In it was shining, I was excited. In it

:23:30.:23:31.

was shining, I was excited. In it was shining, I was excited. In it

:23:31.:23:32.

was like a city of its own. was like a city of its own.

:23:32.:23:37.

was like a city of its own. Everyone knew everyone. Thus the is

:23:37.:23:38.

Everyone knew everyone. Thus the is Everyone knew everyone. Thus the is

:23:38.:23:39.

the history of our work working the history of our work working

:23:39.:23:42.

the history of our work working the history of our work working

:23:42.:23:43.

classes. It is as important as any history.

:23:43.:23:44.

history. history.

:23:44.:23:44.

history. But within ten years of them being

:23:44.:23:45.

But within ten years of them being But within ten years of them being

:23:45.:23:46.

built, there were big problems. built, there were big problems.

:23:46.:23:47.

built, there were big problems. Concrete began to decay and some

:23:47.:23:48.

Concrete began to decay and some had rising damp.

:23:48.:23:49.

had rising damp. had rising damp.

:23:49.:23:50.

The council struggled to find the The council struggled to find the

:23:50.:23:51.

The council struggled to find the The council struggled to find the

:23:51.:23:52.

money to stem the tide of the ever- money to stem the tide of the ever-

:23:52.:23:53.

money to stem the tide of the ever- growing repair bills and soon the

:23:53.:24:00.

growing repair bills and soon the rot set in.

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rot set in. rot set in.

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Within a decade, tower blocks had Within a decade, tower blocks had

:24:02.:24:03.

Within a decade, tower blocks had Within a decade, tower blocks had

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gone from being praised to be being gone from being praised to be being

:24:03.:24:04.

branded the biggest planning branded the biggest planning

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blunder of our time. blunder of our time.

:24:06.:24:06.

blunder of our time. Hyson Green flats were now

:24:06.:24:07.

Hyson Green flats were now experiencing all the social

:24:07.:24:08.

experiencing all the social problems that were stigmatising

:24:08.:24:09.

problems that were stigmatising problems that were stigmatising

:24:09.:24:10.

tower blocks all over Britain and tower blocks all over Britain and

:24:10.:24:11.

tower blocks all over Britain and tower blocks all over Britain and

:24:11.:24:16.

the mood of the place began to the mood of the place began to

:24:16.:24:18.

the mood of the place began to change. There is nothing good about

:24:18.:24:20.

change. There is nothing good about change. There is nothing good about

:24:20.:24:21.

change. There is nothing good about the place any more. We may first

:24:21.:24:22.

the place any more. We may first the place any more. We may first

:24:22.:24:23.

moved in, there were good people moved in, there were good people

:24:23.:24:25.

moved in, there were good people moved in, there were good people

:24:25.:24:28.

here, but they have all moved out. here, but they have all moved out.

:24:28.:24:29.

here, but they have all moved out. here, but they have all moved out.

:24:29.:24:30.

They are just going to turn into They are just going to turn into

:24:30.:24:32.

They are just going to turn into They are just going to turn into

:24:32.:24:33.

slums and they will have the very short life.

:24:33.:24:34.

short life. short life.

:24:34.:24:35.

Despite talk of reinvestment and Despite talk of reinvestment and

:24:35.:24:36.

regeneration, the council decided regeneration, the council decided

:24:36.:24:37.

regeneration, the council decided regeneration, the council decided

:24:37.:24:38.

not to invest any more money in the not to invest any more money in the

:24:38.:24:39.

not to invest any more money in the flats and began tearing them down.

:24:39.:24:40.

flats and began tearing them down. flats and began tearing them down.

:24:40.:24:41.

flats and began tearing them down. In 1988, the Hyson Green flats were

:24:41.:24:42.

demolished. demolished.

:24:42.:24:43.

demolished. demolished.

:24:43.:24:49.

For some, it was hard to take. For some, it was hard to take.

:24:49.:24:50.

For some, it was hard to take. For some, it was hard to take.

:24:50.:24:51.

now I found out the flats were now I found out the flats were

:24:51.:24:54.

now I found out the flats were now I found out the flats were

:24:54.:24:55.

going to be knocked down, I thought, going to be knocked down, I thought,

:24:56.:24:57.

going to be knocked down, I thought, going to be knocked down, I thought,

:24:57.:25:01.

bank goes the flats, bang goes our bank goes the flats, bang goes our

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bank goes the flats, bang goes our bank goes the flats, bang goes our

:25:02.:25:03.

history. But in life you move on, history. But in life you move on,

:25:03.:25:07.

history. But in life you move on, history. But in life you move on,

:25:07.:25:08.

but what I learnt his that life but what I learnt his that life

:25:08.:25:11.

but what I learnt his that life could never be the same again.

:25:11.:25:12.

could never be the same again. could never be the same again.

:25:12.:25:13.

could never be the same again. In spite of all the problems, the

:25:13.:25:14.

In spite of all the problems, the In spite of all the problems, the

:25:14.:25:15.

flats experienced towards the end, flats experienced towards the end,

:25:15.:25:15.

flats experienced towards the end, that original sense of community

:25:15.:25:16.

that original sense of community that original sense of community

:25:16.:25:17.

that original sense of community has stayed in the heart of Kevin

:25:17.:25:19.

Williams. Williams.

:25:19.:25:20.

Williams. Williams.

:25:20.:25:21.

He often visits the site of the He often visits the site of the

:25:21.:25:23.

He often visits the site of the home that he still misses.

:25:23.:25:24.

home that he still misses. home that he still misses.

:25:24.:25:25.

It is now a supermarket carpark, It is now a supermarket carpark,

:25:25.:25:26.

It is now a supermarket carpark, It is now a supermarket carpark,

:25:26.:25:26.

but to Kevin, it will always be but to Kevin, it will always be

:25:26.:25:35.

but to Kevin, it will always be but to Kevin, it will always be

:25:35.:25:36.

Hyson Green flats. My flat used to Hyson Green flats. My flat used to

:25:36.:25:39.

Hyson Green flats. My flat used to Hyson Green flats. My flat used to

:25:39.:25:40.

be, I would say, roughly from where be, I would say, roughly from where

:25:40.:25:42.

be, I would say, roughly from where be, I would say, roughly from where

:25:42.:25:46.

we are standing to the edge of that we are standing to the edge of that

:25:46.:25:55.

we are standing to the edge of that we are standing to the edge of that

:25:55.:25:56.

fans. -- ought to that fence. He fans. -- ought to that fence. He

:25:56.:25:57.

fans. -- ought to that fence. He fans. -- ought to that fence. He

:25:58.:25:59.

never used to see the kids. He they never used to see the kids. He they

:25:59.:26:00.

would have the sandwiches, would have the sandwiches,

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would have the sandwiches, disappear in the morning and that

:26:01.:26:06.

disappear in the morning and that disappear in the morning and that

:26:06.:26:07.

disappear in the morning and that would be them. Next they knew so

:26:07.:26:08.

would be them. Next they knew so would be them. Next they knew so

:26:08.:26:13.

well, they would be half-a-mile well, they would be half-a-mile

:26:13.:26:14.

well, they would be half-a-mile away. Although by then it was

:26:14.:26:15.

away. Although by then it was away. Although by then it was

:26:15.:26:18.

turning officially into a slum, it turning officially into a slum, it

:26:18.:26:20.

turning officially into a slum, it turning officially into a slum, it

:26:20.:26:28.

was the slum that belonged to as. was the slum that belonged to as.

:26:28.:26:30.

was the slum that belonged to as. But the changes affected are people

:26:30.:26:30.

But the changes affected are people But the changes affected are people

:26:31.:26:34.

and a lot of different ways. and a lot of different ways.

:26:34.:26:35.

and a lot of different ways. and a lot of different ways.

:26:35.:26:35.

And what happened to a community at And what happened to a community at

:26:36.:26:36.

And what happened to a community at Hyson Green is happening again.

:26:36.:26:37.

Hyson Green is happening again. Hyson Green is happening again.

:26:37.:26:38.

Lenton flats have been a dominant Lenton flats have been a dominant

:26:38.:26:39.

Lenton flats have been a dominant part of Nottingham's skyline since

:26:39.:26:40.

part of Nottingham's skyline since part of Nottingham's skyline since

:26:40.:26:41.

part of Nottingham's skyline since the 1960's, but the high cost of

:26:41.:26:42.

the 1960's, but the high cost of the 1960's, but the high cost of

:26:42.:26:43.

maintaining them is more than the maintaining them is more than the

:26:43.:26:44.

maintaining them is more than the authorities want to pay and they

:26:44.:26:45.

authorities want to pay and they authorities want to pay and they

:26:45.:26:55.
:26:55.:26:55.

are set to be demolished. are set to be demolished.

:26:55.:26:56.

are set to be demolished. Alec Hessey has lived in Lenton

:26:56.:26:57.

Alec Hessey has lived in Lenton Alec Hessey has lived in Lenton

:26:57.:26:58.

Alec Hessey has lived in Lenton flats for 15 years and is going to

:26:58.:26:59.

flats for 15 years and is going to flats for 15 years and is going to

:26:59.:27:00.

flats for 15 years and is going to be one of the last to move out

:27:00.:27:01.

be one of the last to move out be one of the last to move out

:27:01.:27:08.

before they are pulled down later before they are pulled down later

:27:08.:27:10.

before they are pulled down later before they are pulled down later

:27:10.:27:11.

this year. I could watch the sun this year. I could watch the sun

:27:11.:27:16.

this year. I could watch the sun this year. I could watch the sun

:27:16.:27:17.

coming up over there, I could see coming up over there, I could see

:27:17.:27:18.

coming up over there, I could see the massive bonfire night displays.

:27:18.:27:19.

the massive bonfire night displays. the massive bonfire night displays.

:27:19.:27:21.

the massive bonfire night displays. I could not see the sort of things

:27:21.:27:22.

I could not see the sort of things on the ground floor.

:27:22.:27:23.

on the ground floor. on the ground floor.

:27:23.:27:24.

Although he will miss the view, Although he will miss the view,

:27:24.:27:25.

Although he will miss the view, Although he will miss the view,

:27:25.:27:26.

there is one aspect of living in there is one aspect of living in

:27:26.:27:33.

there is one aspect of living in there is one aspect of living in

:27:33.:27:34.

the flats, he will not miss. I'll the flats, he will not miss. I'll

:27:34.:27:35.

the flats, he will not miss. I'll have Denny Coronation Street Style

:27:35.:27:36.

have Denny Coronation Street Style have Denny Coronation Street Style

:27:36.:27:38.

have Denny Coronation Street Style house the first, but when you were

:27:38.:27:38.

house the first, but when you were house the first, but when you were

:27:39.:27:40.

house the first, but when you were a bit ground that was fine, people

:27:40.:27:41.

a bit ground that was fine, people a bit ground that was fine, people

:27:41.:27:41.

a bit ground that was fine, people would come in and see you and ask

:27:41.:27:42.

would come in and see you and ask would come in and see you and ask

:27:42.:27:44.

if that there was anything you if that there was anything you

:27:44.:27:45.

if that there was anything you if that there was anything you

:27:45.:27:48.

wanted from the shops. That has not wanted from the shops. That has not

:27:48.:27:49.

wanted from the shops. That has not wanted from the shops. That has not

:27:49.:27:50.

happened in these flats. I do not happened in these flats. I do not

:27:50.:27:51.

happened in these flats. I do not happened in these flats. I do not

:27:51.:27:52.

even know the name of one person in even know the name of one person in

:27:52.:27:56.

these block of flats. these block of flats.

:27:56.:27:57.

these block of flats. these block of flats.

:27:57.:27:58.

Alec may not know what the future Alec may not know what the future

:27:58.:27:59.

Alec may not know what the future Alec may not know what the future

:27:59.:27:59.

holds for him, but what is certain holds for him, but what is certain

:28:00.:28:00.

holds for him, but what is certain holds for him, but what is certain

:28:01.:28:01.

is that these flats will soon be is that these flats will soon be

:28:01.:28:02.

is that these flats will soon be gone and the community dispersed.

:28:02.:28:03.

gone and the community dispersed. gone and the community dispersed.

:28:03.:28:04.

But for good or bad, towerblock But for good or bad, towerblock

:28:04.:28:05.

But for good or bad, towerblock But for good or bad, towerblock

:28:05.:28:10.

life has had an impact on the life has had an impact on the

:28:10.:28:11.

life has had an impact on the residents. And I will never forget

:28:11.:28:13.

residents. And I will never forget residents. And I will never forget

:28:13.:28:23.
:28:23.:28:24.

residents. And I will never forget Thank you to everyone for sharing

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Thank you to everyone for sharing Thank you to everyone for sharing

:28:25.:28:28.

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