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In the next half an hour, we reveal how the North East is the meanest

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region in Britain when it comes to looking after older people. I have

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paid all my life for anything that's to pay for. I'm still paying.

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Is there a radical solution? How would you feel about a man? I

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thought, "A man? Why not." Putting Tyneside on the telly - the man

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with high hopes for his Geordie sitcom gives us a sneak preview.

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am trying to show the North East that I grew up, maybe the stuff

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that we are not proud of, but it does exist.

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Our stories from our part of the When Inside Out uncovered a

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catalogue of neglect in Southern Cross homes, lots of you told us it

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was down to cost. With elderly, vulnerable people being treated

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like commodities. The company has since collapsed. With councils

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cutting their budgets, I want toe know whether the same thing could

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be happening all over again, only this time in your own home.

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They are a funding time bomb and they are among the hardest hit by

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cuts. You are about to see what some say is the reality of care

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paid for by councils. It is rubbish. You wouldn't want it for your

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family. I wouldn't want it for mine. With services being cut, can

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councils afford to take care of elderly people any more? Darlington

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is no different to any other town. Here, financial pressures on the

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council are hitting pensioners. Having a bath used to be cheap

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because it was subsidised by the council and the local Primary Care

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Trust. Home bathing would have been �2.20. Now we provide at �13.

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is a massive difference. It is. This is because of the council

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cutting the funding? Yes. It's one way in which council cuts are

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biting. The clients are up in arms. I have paid all my life for

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anything that's to pay for. I'm still paying. I want to dig deeper.

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I have heard that across the North elderly people are at risk and it's

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all down to cost-cutting. This is such an important issue. People

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don't want to go on camera because they are worried it might

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compromise the care of their loved one, or they might lose their job.

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Mostly, the complaints are about home care, to help you stay

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independent in your own home. It's often paid for by councils but

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contracted-out to private companies. I have spoken with a home care

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worker in the North East who says frontline staff are under massive

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pressure. Again, they were worried that speaking on camera might harm

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their career. Their words are spoken by an actor. You didn't have

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enough time between jobs. They would ring you up and say, "Such

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and such has rang in sick, can you squeeze another job in?" You would

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be rushing. I always like to give them the full time and the best

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care possible. We have been told carers are working up to 60 hours a

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week on the minimum wage. A lot of the staff have left. The clients

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get worried because they worry about, with the staff leaving, will

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the company close down? Elizabeth's mum gets home care. It is full care.

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Elizabeth wanted to stay anonymous for the protection of her mum. What

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things have caused you concern with your mother's care? I think hygiene

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standards definitely. Using the same flannel to wash her face and

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then her bottom, and then using it on her face. It is unacceptable.

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More poor care. Francis has memory problems and until this summer, she

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was getting care paid for by the council. She was having three very

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short visits a day from a variety of different people, so in a week

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she could be seeing 10 to 20 people. The impact was to add to her

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confusion. I wouldn't like to say it caused her to be depressed but

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she became very depressed and I think it added to that. We are not

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naming the companies because to be fair, the same problems crop up

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over and over again pretty much everywhere. You need to read

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inspection reports. Staff not adequately trained, records were

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not accurate. Staff shortages were a problem. One person told them

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that if their carer failed to turn up, they would be unable to eat or

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drink or get up, get showered and dressed. It gets worse. There's one

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company where 12 staff had no medication training. That is

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exactly what we heard about another company. The one our whistleblower

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worked for. Some people are not doing a proper medication course.

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Anybody that's giving medication that isn't trained to a certain

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degree is going to make a mistake. To me, it is an accident waiting to

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happen. There are perhaps even more serious concerns. At Age UK they

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have rejected job applicants because they failed a criminal

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records check. You wouldn't want them in your service or dealing

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with relatives of yours. They might have a track record of anything

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from fraud, abuse - it is horrifying that they could go on to

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another company that doesn't do the CRB checks in the same way. It is

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clear some companies don't. This is a report by inspectors of a company

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on Tyneside. There, they found two members of staff who hadn't been

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CRB-checked. "This could put people at risk" said the inspectors. So

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what's it down to? Well, this, apparently. I have heard that to

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save money some councils are driving down the hourly rate they

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pay companies to carry out home care. The UK Homecare Association

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have been looking into the average amount they pay across Britain.

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would seem the North East is the worst in our survey at �10.94 an

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hour. Our view, that is not enough to deliver the right quality of

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service and that has to change. Other areas could be spending up to

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�13 an hour. Our councils are the most tight-fisted in Britain.

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Christine Savage and Bob Nelson set up a care agency because they

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thought local authorities were doing things on the cheap. We have

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heard that in one big local authority in our region they are

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looking for providers to work for �10 an hour and there isn't enough

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money in �10 an hour to recruit and train and pay and manage decent

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quality staff. It is not feasible. That is �10 to the company, not the

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carer who may be on the minimum wage. If the North East is paying

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the lowest, we understand that at least one council is thinking of

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cutting the amount of money? Well, that's shameful. It used to be

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quality was at the top of the list. In our survey, 74% of providers

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said cost is the main factor in delivering the service. I have got

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hold of a confidential document which backs this up. It belongs to

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a North East council and it explains the tendering process on

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one particular contract for elderly people. The charity that's put in a

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bid that by far and away is better on quality. But the way its

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weighted it went to a company that put in a bid at a much lower cost.

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In this case, quality is not as important as the price. So while

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councils look to pay less, older people are paying more for services

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like day-care. I have a few savings, I pay full price, which is

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somewhere around �35 a day. Why do we have to pay now? It's the

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Government who have to cut costs! Why is it the pensioners all the

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time? I want to get answers from the organisation that speaks for

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all councils on this issue. The North East has come out as being

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the meanest region when it comes to this. Some councils are talking

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about cutting �10 per hour? It is up against the wire. There will be

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councils who are doing that reluctantly, and they will be doing

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it because they are looking at their budgets, or maybe their

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corporate procurement teams are thinking it must be like buying

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pencils, let's use economies of scales. We have heard examples of

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workers having to squeeze jobs in to their day, people not having

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proper medication training. They are not what we want to see. There

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are different reasons why those things happen. Sometimes it is

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because the councils push the price too low. Sometimes it is because a

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provider is trying to eke a profit out. Who are you looking to?

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looking to the Government. previous Care Minister said the

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Government is blocking funding for social care, so what does the

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current Minister think? I have been going to great lengths to get hold

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of him for an interview and it looks like it's worked. We have a

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system that is creaking. We need to reform how people are cared for.

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That requires money. Isn't it the case that the councils haven't got

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enough and you should be funding it better? Well, we've provided an

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extra �7.5 billion over the four- year period, along with providing

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extra resources. It's also really important that we use the money as

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effectively as possible. We know that doesn't always happen. We know

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that sometimes you have a race to the bottom with the cheapest

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provider coming up with, or winning the contract. That thing is not

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appropriate. Can councils afford to provide decent care for elderly

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people in their own homes? Yes, they can. If we can be smarter at

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the way we use money, there is enough money available in the

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system to guarantee that people as they grow old can grow old with

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the middle are the elderly. Often victims of poor care, of Government

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and council cuts, at a time when they feel they are losing service

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after service after service. They are left asking one question. It's

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a problem that is only going to get worse as the number of older people

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grows. Can we find the care we want without depending on Government or

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council coffers? The BBC's Home Editor has been on the hunt for

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some novel solutions. I wonder what it is like to be 80.

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If I lived that long, who is going to be there to care for me? Who is

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going to pay the bill? They are questions we all ask. You can spend

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almost everything before the state steps in. I am in York because in

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this city, some of the elder I will have clubbed together to share the

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risk. It is a simple idea. Before you get too old, you can apply to

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a community run by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation where residents

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know that if or when they need nursing care, it is available on

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site at no extra charge. It is not easy to get in. You have to pass a

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medical and one of the leasehold bungalows needs to be vacant. It

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pays to apply early. Look at that. You made the decision to come here

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at 61? It was quite easy. We came here because my parents had died

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and suddenly we are the oldest people in our family. We came here

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and suddenly we were the youngest. There were people 14 years older

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than me! Hartrigg Oaks offers peace of mind to those who can afford it.

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Residents pay into a communal pot. In return, they can be confident

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that whatever happens to them, they won't get clobbered with care fees

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they can't afford. All those worries that everybody has about

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what happens. You have answered them? We know where our care will

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take place. And probably where we will die. That is great. We can

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tick that box and get on with living! Of course, as the residents

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get older, they are more likely to use the site's care facilities. You

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have been paying in all this time? That's right. Paying over the odds

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while you were well, but now you are getting a bit back? It seems

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wasting one's money, but it wasn't. Hartrigg Oaks is a local solution

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to what many would argue should be a national state responsibility,

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paying for the care of our elderly. The plain fact is that at the time

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of cuts to public services, the politicians cannot agree on where

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they are going to find the money. The issue keeps getting kicked into

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the long grass. The truth is that despite the recession, Britain is

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still many times richer in real terms than it was when today's

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pensioners were born. We can afford to look after them. But in

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Westminster, seasoned politicians will tell you that priorities lie

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elsewhere. Is it too ridiculous to imagine na the answer is to put

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taxes up so we can -- that the answer is to put taxes up so we can

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pay and look after our elderly? isn't ridiculous. It's ridiculous

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politically because nobody will touch it with a bargepole. With

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taxpayers unable or unwilling to pay for the increasing care demands

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of the elderly, the search is on for ways to provide help without

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the need for large amounts of public money. I have come to Essex

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to see one of the country's 100 homeshares in action, an idea very

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popular on the Continent. husband died in 2002. I have had

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rheumatoid for 20 years. Then gradually I found I was getting

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worse. My daughter did some research and I came up with share

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and care. She said, "How would you feel about a man?" I thought, "A

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man? A man! Why not?" 80-year-old Iona was matched with 45-year-old

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Graham, an NHS worker. It will come to me! For the last two years, they

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have lived alongside each other in Iona's home. He lives rent-free in

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return for spending around ten hours a week helping out. You see

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the advert, it says, "This is not going to be a flatshare with

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another NHS worker, this will be living with an older person..."

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Taking care of the chickens, doing some shopping, mowing the lawn, a

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few repairs. A bit of company. own house? Exactly. I wanted to

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stay here. I love my house. I intend to be carried out in my

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coffin from here. You don't have a - it is free board and lodging in

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return for some chores kind of relationship. You have become

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friends? We are friends. He has been amazing. He has given me my

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life, my quality of life. We laugh. He makes me roar with laughter.

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Sometimes I make you roar! When you tell a dirty joke! LAUGHTER It is

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so nice when you see something that works as well as that does, it is

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not for everybody. Clearly, the older person needs to have a spare

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room and their needs, they can't be too severe. Thirdly, perhaps most

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importantly, the characters have to be right to get that kind of

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special relationship. So, it is an answer, but it is not the answer.

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Over on the Isle of Wight, there is a unique social experiment being

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piloted. It is called Care4Care. Again, the idea is simple. For

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every hour of voluntary care that people put in for their elderly

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neighbours, they build-up an hour's worth of care credit that they can

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keep in a time bank and then use for their own care later in life.

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One of the youngest of the 150 members who have signed up for the

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squeem is 36-year-old Lewis who has been help -- scheme is 36-year-old

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Lewis who has been helping out Pearl. I would like to think that

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those hours are banked to go to helping my mother or helping myself

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and if and when I need it. It can encourage you so much to actually

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get out there and do something. Care4Care is the brainchild of

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Professor Heinz Wolff who hopes it will play a key part in solving the

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care crisis. I hope that over the next three years, we will build it

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into quite a large national scheme. I hope that there might be a

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million members. The problem is whether the next generation is

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sufficiently keen to ensure safety in their own age to invest the

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hours which would buy them their care pension. In Westminster, the

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talk is all about cuts and austerity, not spending billions

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more caring for our elderly. So the responsibility falls on wider

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society, on communities, on neighbourhoods, on families to fill

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that gap and help all of us feel more confident about the prospect

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of growing old. If you would like to tell me about

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your stories, you can e-mail at [email protected].

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Whatever happened to the likely lads? It is a good question. When

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it comes to comedy, Geordie humour has been a rarity on-screen. Until

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now. The Office put Slough on the map. So could Hebburn do the same

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for South Tyneside? Chris Connel I'm trying to show the North East

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that I grew up in. I have the weight of a whole region on me

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shoulders. There will be a lot of pressure. Jason Cook has created a

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sitcom with an all-star cast and he has set it here, in his hometown.

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The results will be watched by millions and it could change his

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life forever and it should put this place on the map. Action!

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programme is billed as a warm tale of North East family life. It is a

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series of six half-hour shows. have never been to Newcastle before.

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We are in Hebburn! Hebburn is where dreams come to die. I can't see

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anything wrong with this place. Watch this! Big Keith, formal wear

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this evening? Shirt's in the wash, man! Me shirt! It's called Hebburn.

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It's got a stellar cast, great writing and a production team with

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a proven track record of delivering hit shows. Can they turn a comedy

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set into a nationwide hit? It's been done before, but a long time

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ago. # Whatever happened to you... #

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There was a culture up here and a humour and an existence between the

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image of an industrial landscape and coal mines and shipbuilding.

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Since then, the North East has spawned a good many comedians who

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have hit the big time, including this pair. Wait for me, man!

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years ago, the BBC made another comedy show set here. I'm sure you

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all remember Breeze Block? No? I do. I was in it! Briefly. That's me on

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the left with a little bit more hair. I have brought you a cigar.

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Canny. Broadcast on BBC Choice, Breeze Block was set in Newcastle.

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He is having trouble with his confidence. He has to take therapy.

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Go on, Dad. A year later, along came another great comedy set in

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the region. That's enough of that. Spool forward eight years, the BBC

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is back in the North East hoping this time it's hit comedy gold. It

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is banking on a script by a stand- up comedian called Jason Cook.

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is trying to show the North East that I grew up in. It is funny. The

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other bit is the stuff that we are all really proud of - the sense of

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family values, making the best of bad news. As well as writing it,

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Jason stars in it, in fact most of the cast are from the North East.

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All right? What you after? I want to use North East talent. You

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wouldn't believe how many people try and fake a Geordie accent? "Why

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you know, man, we're going to go to Gregg's!" This is my first one of

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these that I have ever done. I don't know - I am still learning.

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Everyone's laughed at us because I don't understand. There's a lot of

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people looking at it knowing it is the next North East one. We are

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both playing those girls, Geordie Shore, those girls that are in the

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public eye at the minute. You look proper lush! We are trying to be

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much more even-handed and respectful about playing them, not

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just being extreme and representing them as loose women who drink too

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much. What was it about the writing that got you interested? It is

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funny and very moving at the same time. It can go from a funny thing

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to a really sad scene, just like that. We can't afford to keep your

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gran in the retirement village. She is going to move in here with us.

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Jack will come up over the next few weekends and he will convert the

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sitting room into the bedroom. I? Didn't spot that in my diary. I

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would love to help. I've got my book on the weekends. You can read

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your book any time. Son, I need you to do this. All the location

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filming, the outside stuff, was done in Hebburn. Jack, you back?

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would appear so. This your lass? Aye! Hebburn is great as a film set,

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great locations. We got a lot of funny looks. We paint a very

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positive picture of Hebburn. have had hundreds of people come to

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watch us film. The response has been incredible. The cast are only

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spending a week here. They are doing most of the filming in this

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studio down here in Manchester. They have reconstructed the house

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where Jason grew up. We lived in this one, number 12. This is the

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sitting room. We have all the family pictures that we have had

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mocked up. Got to have a hostess trolley and two papers with a

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border in the middle! Why the early retirement? There comes a time in a

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man's life when he has to take a long, hard look... At his test

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results! Your Dad's heart is knackered! Action! The programme

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was produced for the BBC by Baby Cow. According to the man who

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commissioned the show, it had to be made in the North West. We made a

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quick commissioning decision. It meant the production company had to

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galvanise themselves into action very quickly. We did use North East

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crew and on-screen talent. We have shown Hebburn. It would be nice to

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spend more time up there. The North East is about to have another

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moment! I hope the series is successful. I have heard it is

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really good. What it will do, if anything, is put a spotlight on the

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forgotten landscape of the North East. Some would say that Hebburn

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plays to a few stereotypes and they are not trying to glamorise life up

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here. I am more than happy to celebrate the fact that a warm

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sitcom will be able to showcase all the great talent in the North East.

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But clearly not all! I'm not in it! I didn't get that phone call. I was

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probably busy! It will be rubbish anyway!

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You can catch Hebburn on BBC2 this Thursday night. That is it from us

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