30/01/2017 Inside Out North East and Cumbria

Coming up in the next half an hour, is the home care system in crisis?

I'm investigating claims that the North is the meanest

when it comes to paying for vital help.

It's the most difficult job in the world, they do all the things

that no one else wants to do and they do it with a smile

and a kind word and I think they are marvellous people.

The Cumbrian farmers feeling left out in the cold by their landlord,

What would Beatrix Potter make of it all?

They should be absolutely horrified at how much they have gone

I don't think the higher management have any interest in agriculture.

We join the North Yorkshire College training Britain's

I'm scared of spiders and there's loads of them

and there's ants and insects, but you get used to it.

This is definitely what I imagined it to be like, being out

in the field doing shooting and things like that.

I'm Chris Jackson and this is Inside Out.

It's at the back of all our minds isn't it, one day we may all need

care, ideally in our own home and you would think we would want

the very best, but are we really willing to pay for it?

Well, the home care industry is now accusing local councils of not

funding it properly and, it says, our region

I'm on the road with Jane and Nicole.

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This is your second visit of the day, is that right?

83-year-old Joan sees carers four times every day.

It's straight to work getting Joan her lunch and making

How important is it for you to have Jane and Nicole come to see you?

And would you not be able to cope without their help,

even though you've got family coming around?

I think you're a bit of a devil underneath all of this, aren't you?

Jane and Nicole work for Mears Group in Carlisle,

contracted by Cumbria County Council and they do between 20 and 24 calls

a day and work long shifts, from seven in the morning

I still think people think it is like just making cups of tea.

Obviously we are there to do that and keep people company and stuff,

but it isn't just that, it can be really hard work.

Not just physically but mentally as well.

But it is the best job, ever, I love it.

Next stop is Gwen who relies on five calls a day.

I'm not capable of being left to do without somebody there, watching us.

I have nothing to worry about really.

That must be a nice feeling, not to have to worry.

Nicole has only been doing the job for a week

A lot of people worry about carers, it can be tough.

It has an impact on someone else's life, you have

Going to someone's house and being in their company

The Mears Group provides care services for local

How much they pay varies from council to council

but like other care companies, the company says it is not enough.

The jobs that the staff do are incredibly tough jobs.

Increasingly, it is complex tasks, in bathing, personal care,

which just wouldn't have been done 20 years ago.

Sadly there is only so much money to go around but yes

According to the UK Home Care Association,

the average amount paid to care companies in Cumbria

is ?14.47 per hour and this includes the carers wage,

training, travel as well as other costs to run the business.

They claim that councils in the north-east pay on average

?12.60 per hour making it the lowest paying region in England and some

of our councils, including Cumbria dispute the figures.

But the UK HCA says all local authorities should be paying

And authorities that pay below the price risks overall care

providers being unable to deliver care in the area and we are

beginning to see care providers just refusing to take

That is what happened with Sunderland company MyCare

You've got a visitor as well today Norman.

He has just got back from dialysis treatment at the hospital.

He goes for four hours three times a week.

We come in and see if he needs a bit of personal care and once

we have sorted that out, we transfer him into his comfy

chair and then just see whether there is anything else

Always willing to help, always very chatty,

Everything we do is absolutely brilliant.

Norman partly pays for his own care and tops up the money

Basically, it is worth it but I have no choice other

The company which provides Norman's care says it will no longer bid

for council contracts and it is all down to price.

The council would pay ?12.50 and we charge ?15 an hour

and we simply cannot deliver the type of service that we want

We just cannot pay staff the right rate.

Margaret set up the company because of past experience.

Her brother and mother both have carers.

I was really disappointed at the level of care that we had.

We were running some other businesses and I wondered

if we could break the mould where it was run better,

but I am not in it to make money, I am in it to make a difference.

As well as having calls throughout the day, Enid who has

motor neurone disease, has a carer all night.

Every evening to get out of bed to spend precious

time with her husband, Bill.

Well, it gives me all the support that I need.

To give my husband the help that he needs.

He had got to the stage where he could not cope all day

The job itself, they know how difficult it is.

For how much they do, if we did not have carers,

people like me, I could only go to a hospital.

I know that you knew we were coming, but did you get them

to paint your nails, because they are looking fresh!

I thought you were trying to impress me there.

Councils say they simply cannot afford to pay any more.

Two years ago, the government give them special permission to raise

council tax by 2% to pay for social care.

All the local authorities in the north-east and Cumbria tell

us that they have done so and now the government is looking

at allowing them to raise it by another 3%, but will

Earlier this month, Surrey County Council proposed

I think the move by Surrey is an audacious move and the fact

that a Conservative run council, which has not been affected

by the same depth of cuts as many councils here in the north-east,

shows the scale of the challenge and that this is not a matter

of Labour versus Conservative councils, all councils are really

The UK Home Care Association says we are paying about ?2 less

The situation is even worse when you look at the north-east

where it is ?2 lower than what should be paid.

I have got every sympathy with the home care providers,

everybody recognises that there needs to be more money

in the system but councils have come under severe financial pressure over

the last five or six years and there just isn't the money

We reckon that we need an immediate injection of ?1.3 billion worth

of cash just to stabilise the system and another 1.3 million over

the next few years to deal with the increased number of people

that the care system will need to look after.

I do think nationally we are in a crisis now

and there is nothing more important for me in a society than looking

after elderly people and we all need to play a part in that.

The politicians just won't be able to cope with the NHS and the home

care services in the state they are in for much longer.

It is the most difficult job in the world.

They do all the things in the world and they do it with a smile

and a kind word and I think they are marvellous people.

Would you be willing to pay more taxes to ensure home care is not

Let me know what you think, via Twitter and e-mail,

Farming has sustained the Lake District for centuries,

but now one of the country's largest charities and landowners stands

accused of being out of touch with the challenges of working

The peace and tranquillity of the Lakes has been

disturbed by rising tension between The National Trust

The Lake District, loved and revered by millions.

But the inspiring landscape conceals mounting fury.

They are not believing in the people that have been here for generations.

I don't think, the higher management have any interest in agriculture.

The charity, The National Trust, owns around a fifth of this dramatic

It has always been a challenge to make a living for the generations

of families who farm at these fells, but now those who work the land

say their landlord is out of touch and is making

The landscape is our identity and we have committed ourselves

as a family for three generations to this landscape.

His landlord, The National Trust, has given him a 15 year farm tenancy

Do you feel that you need to speak out on this?

In order for me to carry out what we have done for generations,

they need to give me a platform to do it.

A secure platform and they are not doing that.

Isaac's concerns for his future are just one of the things

This is a particular landscape isn't it and to make any kind

of commitment to it, it is a hard living and not very

profitable, frankly, so surely they deserve a bit more

I always see tenancy as a marriage between two people.

An organisation represented by a person and the tenant coming

in and they need to make sure that the marriage works and you have

break clauses during a period to make sure that it is working

for them and working for the landlord.

It is not unreasonable and at times, we separate.

The ones where it is working really well where they are delivering

on the tenancy they have signed, it is working financially

and viable, of course we want them to stay.

The negative headlines for The National Trust began here at

Last summer the farm and land came up for auction and the Trust put

in a bid of nearly ?1 million, just for the land.

And that was 200 grand over the asking price.

And the price was actually going down at the time.

The auctioneer was bringing the price down and The National

Trust person made an absurd bid of 950000 and I

Peter lives next door to Thorney Thwaite Farm and thought

he was in with a chance of buying both the farmhouse and the land.

He is also a National Trust tenant and was left fuming.

Six generations of Edmondsons have been here and we were going

to continue to conserve the land at Thorney Thwaite as a farm.

Do you still stand by the decision to buy the land but not farm?

We stand by the decision we made to buy the land.

We bought that land because we felt it was of international significance

along with the other land in the area.

A rich mosaic of farmland, woodland and the fell.

Thorney Thwaite, bit of a PR disaster and you must regret it.

We regret we did not manage to communicate as best

we could and we were taken by surprise by the negative feelings

towards the purchase, because we imagined that people

would think it was a good thing that we were buying the land

on behalf of the nation and securing it.

At least these guys are happy, Peter.

You go that way and I'll go this way.

Since the sale, Peter has locked horns with the trust,

relations are at an all-time low as he discovered the

director-general of the trust came to the valley before Christmas.

Dame Helen Gosch visited Thorney Thwaite Farm,

Let's smooth things over, she had not got the guts

We chose not to go and see Mr Edmonson, because we felt

that the relationship was not in such a great place.

That was the time to make it all up, wasn't it?

The boss is in town, time to make up?

I guess we could have done that but we chose not to.

Feels like talking to the tenants that the trust has sort

of lost its way over the last few years.

There is a new Chief Executive, new strategies and it

all feels very remote, quite scary for people.

Viv represents many of The National Trust tenants

and says her members believe that farming is no longer a priority.

They have come up with new strategies and the conservations

of biodiversity seemed to be what they are concentrating on.

They will talk about farming but it is usually lower down

the list and as we know, as we look around here,

it is the farming systems that deliver this landscape

and are maintaining what we have got.

It is about working hand in hand, environment and farming,

A significant change here, we are after an adaptation place

by place and the joy of the Lake District is every

You walk into one, it has a different feel to another.

The plans that you talked about earlier, we really do

want to develop more than ten year plans, long-term plans shared

with our tenants and the community which set out what is special

about the valley and how we want to be able to manage it

into the future and at the moment we do not have that shared vision

and plans and maybe we can overcome some of these problems.

This farm was one of the properties given to The National Trust

by its most famous benefactor, Beatrix Potter, author

I think she would be absolutely horrified at how much they have gone

Eric has devoted over 30 years to farming and he says the trust now

I don't think the higher management have any interest in agriculture.

What is the one thing you would like the trust to do?

I would like them to come out onto these farms and show an active

interest in what our problems are and what we need

It is great coming on a nice sunny day but you know

what it is like today, the wind is trying to blow us over.

Are you more interested in tourism in the lakes than farming?

No, we're not more interested in tourism, tourism has

a fundamental role to play here and a lot of the economy

in the Lake District in particular comes from tourism.

A lot of our farms have diversified over the years,

based on the back of the tourism industry and the trust as a whole,

Glad to speak to you of course, we would also have liked to speak

to the director-general who chose not to speak to us.

Can you give us a guarantee that we can get an interview

That is a question for Helen, not me.

The day after we met Mike, his boss, director-general

of The National Trust, Dame Helen Gosch came to Cumbria

and told a conference of farmers and conservationists that

suggestions that the trust was losing its commitment to upland

farming could not be further from the truth.

The past few months have been a bruising experience for both The

National Trust and some of that hill farmers. And if this landscape is to

be more than just a beautiful backdrop, then some sort of lasting

peace needs to be brokered which will allow it to continue to be a

vibrant environment for both farmers and visitors. How young is too young

to join the military? There is only one college in the country that

recruits 16 and 17-year-olds and Harrogate Army Foundation College

has opened its doors exclusively to in Out. Olivia Richwald has been

joining the newest raw recruits. Tough times are getting beasted

when we do something wrong, There are times when I

have wanted to leave. I feel proud to have come this far,

passing the selection? I'm definitely sticking it out,

it's the job for me. Too young to drink, too young

to vote, old enough to join the Army These are Yorkshire's

teenage Army recruits. The paperwork commits them to study

here for a year in exchange From their 18th birthday they'll be

committed to serving Want to travel, get better

qualifications, make new friends and have a better life for myself.

Junior soldiers have been I wanted to do something a bit more

exciting. Since you were ten or 11, you have talked about it. We thought

he will grow out of it, but he never did. Junior soldiers have been

trained here in Harrogate for the past 18 years.

The MOD invests tens of thousands of pounds in each recruit

and they have to be very dedicated before they're accepted here.

Harrogate's Army Foundation College is controversial.

It's the only place in the country where children -

16 and 17 year olds - can join the military.

Critics say 16 is too young to make that kind of commitment,

but around 30 percent of time spent here is in the classroom.

The educational achievements are remarkable.

A lot of them come with a reading age of between 9 and 11 year olds.

The ones that have just left did fantastically,

they have progressed if not one level, two levels for some of them,

which is a great achievement in the short amount of time we have

have I said that it is raining? I have inferred that it might rain or

it is raining. And has come to Harrogate

to improve his maths and English. Without being moved, what has

happened there? Seal the deal. Romario is desperate

to follow his brothers into the Royal Signals but didn't

have the academic qualifications needed and is instead joining

the Royal Artillery. But if he can get the grades

he might get a transfer I want a cap badge change

to do something with IT because I like to work

with computers and stuff like that. We won't find out as yet,

until I don't know when, hopefully I get my transfer,

if not then later down the line in Or the next few months Romario must

show his trainers he can achieve Fewer than 10 percent

of recruits are female. But they re expected to work just

as hard as the boys. In addition to the gruelling

physical regime, 17 year old Demi Allan has started boxing ?

if she can train hard enough she might make the Army boxing team

? which will be a fantastic start I like the fitness, the fighting. We

will be covering the immediate action drill. Nine seconds to don

your respirator. The recruits are now half way

through their training and this is something

they dread on the timetable, they re going into

the CS gas chamber. What I want you to do now is carry

out the decontamination drill. Although you can t see it, this shed

is filled with GS ? or tear gas. Contact with it causes

coughing, dizziness, Junior soldiers need to be able

to handle a chemical incident. And today they re being

tested to see if they can decontaminate their masks,

faces and water supply. When you first take it off, you

think it is not too bad but when you're in their longer, it feels

horrible, like you cannot breathe. It is not a nice thing to do. You

feel like you are joking. I am happy it is over. -- you are joking.

From here the challenges will only get tougher.

We ve joined the junior soldiers on one of their main field

They re sleeping rough here in the woods, there are no

showers and they eating from ration packs.

This one is just three days long but when they join the Army it

There is a huge sense of achievement once they have finished these

exercises and we see them grow already and it becomes easier as

time goes on. It is good for them to see the progress throughout the

year. You're sleeping in the woods, what is it like? Horrible. I am

scared of spiders and there is lots of them. You get used to it. This is

definitely what I imagined it would be like, being in the field, doing

stuff like shooting and things like that. Completely different to being

in camp. Five minutes to come and conceal yourself, in that direction.

From now, go! Last time I spoke to you, you wanted to swap regiments

like your brothers, how did your application go? I passed one more

thing in English and then I am just doing my mathematics. I wanted to do

it, ever since I joined the Army. I think I would be over the moon if I

got my transfer. We'll they go into the ring, when the bell goes, what

is the first thing we do? The summer term ends

with college boxing night. And Demi Allan s

dedication has paid off. She s been picked to fight in

the only female bout of the evening. I blanked out when I go into the

ring. Walking out scares me. All the junior soldiers watching... You have

got the sergeants, officers, a lot of people watching.

After three two minute rounds it s a win for Demi.

How do you feel after that fight? I am knackered but I am really glad I

won it. It is worth it. What are you looking forward to the most after

this? A shower! That is it for tonight. We can all stand at ease

now. Next week, the women who take that Bacary Sagna cosmetic treatment

left them less than picture perfect. I will see you next week. Tell them,

from Keswick, good night. Hello, I'm Riz Lateef

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