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Coming up in the next half an hour, is the home care system in crisis?

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I'm investigating claims that the North is the meanest

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when it comes to paying for vital help.

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It's the most difficult job in the world, they do all the things

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that no one else wants to do and they do it with a smile

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and a kind word and I think they are marvellous people.

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The Cumbrian farmers feeling left out in the cold by their landlord,

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What would Beatrix Potter make of it all?

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They should be absolutely horrified at how much they have gone

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I don't think the higher management have any interest in agriculture.

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We join the North Yorkshire College training Britain's

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I'm scared of spiders and there's loads of them

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and there's ants and insects, but you get used to it.

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This is definitely what I imagined it to be like, being out

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in the field doing shooting and things like that.

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I'm Chris Jackson and this is Inside Out.

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It's at the back of all our minds isn't it, one day we may all need

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care, ideally in our own home and you would think we would want

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the very best, but are we really willing to pay for it?

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Well, the home care industry is now accusing local councils of not

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funding it properly and, it says, our region

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I'm on the road with Jane and Nicole.

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# Still hurting from a love I lost...

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This is your second visit of the day, is that right?

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83-year-old Joan sees carers four times every day.

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It's straight to work getting Joan her lunch and making

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How important is it for you to have Jane and Nicole come to see you?

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And would you not be able to cope without their help,

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even though you've got family coming around?

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I think you're a bit of a devil underneath all of this, aren't you?

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Jane and Nicole work for Mears Group in Carlisle,

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contracted by Cumbria County Council and they do between 20 and 24 calls

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a day and work long shifts, from seven in the morning

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I still think people think it is like just making cups of tea.

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Obviously we are there to do that and keep people company and stuff,

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but it isn't just that, it can be really hard work.

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Not just physically but mentally as well.

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But it is the best job, ever, I love it.

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Next stop is Gwen who relies on five calls a day.

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I'm not capable of being left to do without somebody there, watching us.

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I have nothing to worry about really.

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That must be a nice feeling, not to have to worry.

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Nicole has only been doing the job for a week

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A lot of people worry about carers, it can be tough.

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It has an impact on someone else's life, you have

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Going to someone's house and being in their company

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The Mears Group provides care services for local

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How much they pay varies from council to council

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but like other care companies, the company says it is not enough.

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The jobs that the staff do are incredibly tough jobs.

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Increasingly, it is complex tasks, in bathing, personal care,

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which just wouldn't have been done 20 years ago.

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Sadly there is only so much money to go around but yes

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According to the UK Home Care Association,

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the average amount paid to care companies in Cumbria

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is ?14.47 per hour and this includes the carers wage,

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training, travel as well as other costs to run the business.

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They claim that councils in the north-east pay on average

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?12.60 per hour making it the lowest paying region in England and some

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of our councils, including Cumbria dispute the figures.

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But the UK HCA says all local authorities should be paying

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And authorities that pay below the price risks overall care

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providers being unable to deliver care in the area and we are

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beginning to see care providers just refusing to take

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That is what happened with Sunderland company MyCare

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You've got a visitor as well today Norman.

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He has just got back from dialysis treatment at the hospital.

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He goes for four hours three times a week.

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We come in and see if he needs a bit of personal care and once

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we have sorted that out, we transfer him into his comfy

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chair and then just see whether there is anything else

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Always willing to help, always very chatty,

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Everything we do is absolutely brilliant.

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Norman partly pays for his own care and tops up the money

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Basically, it is worth it but I have no choice other

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The company which provides Norman's care says it will no longer bid

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for council contracts and it is all down to price.

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The council would pay ?12.50 and we charge ?15 an hour

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and we simply cannot deliver the type of service that we want

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We just cannot pay staff the right rate.

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Margaret set up the company because of past experience.

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Her brother and mother both have carers.

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I was really disappointed at the level of care that we had.

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We were running some other businesses and I wondered

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if we could break the mould where it was run better,

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but I am not in it to make money, I am in it to make a difference.

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As well as having calls throughout the day, Enid who has

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motor neurone disease, has a carer all night.

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Every evening to get out of bed to spend precious

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time with her husband, Bill.

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Well, it gives me all the support that I need.

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To give my husband the help that he needs.

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He had got to the stage where he could not cope all day

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The job itself, they know how difficult it is.

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For how much they do, if we did not have carers,

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people like me, I could only go to a hospital.

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I know that you knew we were coming, but did you get them

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to paint your nails, because they are looking fresh!

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I thought you were trying to impress me there.

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Councils say they simply cannot afford to pay any more.

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Two years ago, the government give them special permission to raise

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council tax by 2% to pay for social care.

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All the local authorities in the north-east and Cumbria tell

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us that they have done so and now the government is looking

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at allowing them to raise it by another 3%, but will

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Earlier this month, Surrey County Council proposed

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I think the move by Surrey is an audacious move and the fact

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that a Conservative run council, which has not been affected

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by the same depth of cuts as many councils here in the north-east,

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shows the scale of the challenge and that this is not a matter

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of Labour versus Conservative councils, all councils are really

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The UK Home Care Association says we are paying about ?2 less

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The situation is even worse when you look at the north-east

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where it is ?2 lower than what should be paid.

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I have got every sympathy with the home care providers,

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everybody recognises that there needs to be more money

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in the system but councils have come under severe financial pressure over

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the last five or six years and there just isn't the money

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We reckon that we need an immediate injection of ?1.3 billion worth

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of cash just to stabilise the system and another 1.3 million over

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the next few years to deal with the increased number of people

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that the care system will need to look after.

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I do think nationally we are in a crisis now

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and there is nothing more important for me in a society than looking

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after elderly people and we all need to play a part in that.

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The politicians just won't be able to cope with the NHS and the home

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care services in the state they are in for much longer.

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It is the most difficult job in the world.

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They do all the things in the world and they do it with a smile

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and a kind word and I think they are marvellous people.

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Would you be willing to pay more taxes to ensure home care is not

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Let me know what you think, via Twitter and e-mail,

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Farming has sustained the Lake District for centuries,

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but now one of the country's largest charities and landowners stands

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accused of being out of touch with the challenges of working

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The peace and tranquillity of the Lakes has been

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disturbed by rising tension between The National Trust

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The Lake District, loved and revered by millions.

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But the inspiring landscape conceals mounting fury.

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They are not believing in the people that have been here for generations.

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I don't think, the higher management have any interest in agriculture.

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The charity, The National Trust, owns around a fifth of this dramatic

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It has always been a challenge to make a living for the generations

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of families who farm at these fells, but now those who work the land

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say their landlord is out of touch and is making

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The landscape is our identity and we have committed ourselves

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as a family for three generations to this landscape.

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His landlord, The National Trust, has given him a 15 year farm tenancy

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Do you feel that you need to speak out on this?

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In order for me to carry out what we have done for generations,

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they need to give me a platform to do it.

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A secure platform and they are not doing that.

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Isaac's concerns for his future are just one of the things

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This is a particular landscape isn't it and to make any kind

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of commitment to it, it is a hard living and not very

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profitable, frankly, so surely they deserve a bit more

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I always see tenancy as a marriage between two people.

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An organisation represented by a person and the tenant coming

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in and they need to make sure that the marriage works and you have

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break clauses during a period to make sure that it is working

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for them and working for the landlord.

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It is not unreasonable and at times, we separate.

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The ones where it is working really well where they are delivering

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on the tenancy they have signed, it is working financially

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and viable, of course we want them to stay.

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The negative headlines for The National Trust began here at

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Last summer the farm and land came up for auction and the Trust put

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in a bid of nearly ?1 million, just for the land.

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And that was 200 grand over the asking price.

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And the price was actually going down at the time.

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The auctioneer was bringing the price down and The National

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Trust person made an absurd bid of 950000 and I

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Peter lives next door to Thorney Thwaite Farm and thought

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he was in with a chance of buying both the farmhouse and the land.

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He is also a National Trust tenant and was left fuming.

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Six generations of Edmondsons have been here and we were going

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to continue to conserve the land at Thorney Thwaite as a farm.

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Do you still stand by the decision to buy the land but not farm?

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We stand by the decision we made to buy the land.

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We bought that land because we felt it was of international significance

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along with the other land in the area.

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A rich mosaic of farmland, woodland and the fell.

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Thorney Thwaite, bit of a PR disaster and you must regret it.

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We regret we did not manage to communicate as best

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we could and we were taken by surprise by the negative feelings

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towards the purchase, because we imagined that people

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would think it was a good thing that we were buying the land

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on behalf of the nation and securing it.

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At least these guys are happy, Peter.

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You go that way and I'll go this way.

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Since the sale, Peter has locked horns with the trust,

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relations are at an all-time low as he discovered the

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director-general of the trust came to the valley before Christmas.

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Dame Helen Gosch visited Thorney Thwaite Farm,

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Let's smooth things over, she had not got the guts

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We chose not to go and see Mr Edmonson, because we felt

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that the relationship was not in such a great place.

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That was the time to make it all up, wasn't it?

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The boss is in town, time to make up?

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I guess we could have done that but we chose not to.

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Feels like talking to the tenants that the trust has sort

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of lost its way over the last few years.

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There is a new Chief Executive, new strategies and it

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all feels very remote, quite scary for people.

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Viv represents many of The National Trust tenants

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and says her members believe that farming is no longer a priority.

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They have come up with new strategies and the conservations

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of biodiversity seemed to be what they are concentrating on.

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They will talk about farming but it is usually lower down

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the list and as we know, as we look around here,

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it is the farming systems that deliver this landscape

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and are maintaining what we have got.

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It is about working hand in hand, environment and farming,

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A significant change here, we are after an adaptation place

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by place and the joy of the Lake District is every

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You walk into one, it has a different feel to another.

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The plans that you talked about earlier, we really do

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want to develop more than ten year plans, long-term plans shared

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with our tenants and the community which set out what is special

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about the valley and how we want to be able to manage it

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into the future and at the moment we do not have that shared vision

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and plans and maybe we can overcome some of these problems.

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This farm was one of the properties given to The National Trust

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by its most famous benefactor, Beatrix Potter, author

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I think she would be absolutely horrified at how much they have gone

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Eric has devoted over 30 years to farming and he says the trust now

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I don't think the higher management have any interest in agriculture.

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What is the one thing you would like the trust to do?

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I would like them to come out onto these farms and show an active

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interest in what our problems are and what we need

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It is great coming on a nice sunny day but you know

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what it is like today, the wind is trying to blow us over.

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Are you more interested in tourism in the lakes than farming?

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No, we're not more interested in tourism, tourism has

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a fundamental role to play here and a lot of the economy

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in the Lake District in particular comes from tourism.

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A lot of our farms have diversified over the years,

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based on the back of the tourism industry and the trust as a whole,

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Glad to speak to you of course, we would also have liked to speak

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to the director-general who chose not to speak to us.

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Can you give us a guarantee that we can get an interview

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That is a question for Helen, not me.

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The day after we met Mike, his boss, director-general

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of The National Trust, Dame Helen Gosch came to Cumbria

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and told a conference of farmers and conservationists that

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suggestions that the trust was losing its commitment to upland

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farming could not be further from the truth.

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The past few months have been a bruising experience for both The

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National Trust and some of that hill farmers. And if this landscape is to

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be more than just a beautiful backdrop, then some sort of lasting

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peace needs to be brokered which will allow it to continue to be a

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vibrant environment for both farmers and visitors. How young is too young

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to join the military? There is only one college in the country that

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recruits 16 and 17-year-olds and Harrogate Army Foundation College

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has opened its doors exclusively to in Out. Olivia Richwald has been

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joining the newest raw recruits. Tough times are getting beasted

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when we do something wrong, There are times when I

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have wanted to leave. I feel proud to have come this far,

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passing the selection? I'm definitely sticking it out,

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it's the job for me. Too young to drink, too young

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to vote, old enough to join the Army These are Yorkshire's

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teenage Army recruits. The paperwork commits them to study

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here for a year in exchange From their 18th birthday they'll be

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committed to serving Want to travel, get better

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qualifications, make new friends and have a better life for myself.

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Junior soldiers have been I wanted to do something a bit more

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exciting. Since you were ten or 11, you have talked about it. We thought

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he will grow out of it, but he never did. Junior soldiers have been

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trained here in Harrogate for the past 18 years.

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The MOD invests tens of thousands of pounds in each recruit

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and they have to be very dedicated before they're accepted here.

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Harrogate's Army Foundation College is controversial.

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It's the only place in the country where children -

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16 and 17 year olds - can join the military.

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Critics say 16 is too young to make that kind of commitment,

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but around 30 percent of time spent here is in the classroom.

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The educational achievements are remarkable.

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A lot of them come with a reading age of between 9 and 11 year olds.

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The ones that have just left did fantastically,

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they have progressed if not one level, two levels for some of them,

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which is a great achievement in the short amount of time we have

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have I said that it is raining? I have inferred that it might rain or

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it is raining. And has come to Harrogate

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to improve his maths and English. Without being moved, what has

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happened there? Seal the deal. Romario is desperate

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to follow his brothers into the Royal Signals but didn't

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have the academic qualifications needed and is instead joining

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the Royal Artillery. But if he can get the grades

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he might get a transfer I want a cap badge change

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to do something with IT because I like to work

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with computers and stuff like that. We won't find out as yet,

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until I don't know when, hopefully I get my transfer,

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if not then later down the line in Or the next few months Romario must

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show his trainers he can achieve Fewer than 10 percent

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of recruits are female. But they re expected to work just

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as hard as the boys. In addition to the gruelling

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physical regime, 17 year old Demi Allan has started boxing ?

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if she can train hard enough she might make the Army boxing team

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? which will be a fantastic start I like the fitness, the fighting. We

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will be covering the immediate action drill. Nine seconds to don

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your respirator. The recruits are now half way

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through their training and this is something

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they dread on the timetable, they re going into

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the CS gas chamber. What I want you to do now is carry

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out the decontamination drill. Although you can t see it, this shed

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is filled with GS ? or tear gas. Contact with it causes

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coughing, dizziness, Junior soldiers need to be able

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to handle a chemical incident. And today they re being

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tested to see if they can decontaminate their masks,

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faces and water supply. When you first take it off, you

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think it is not too bad but when you're in their longer, it feels

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horrible, like you cannot breathe. It is not a nice thing to do. You

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feel like you are joking. I am happy it is over. -- you are joking.

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From here the challenges will only get tougher.

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We ve joined the junior soldiers on one of their main field

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They re sleeping rough here in the woods, there are no

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showers and they eating from ration packs.

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This one is just three days long but when they join the Army it

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There is a huge sense of achievement once they have finished these

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exercises and we see them grow already and it becomes easier as

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time goes on. It is good for them to see the progress throughout the

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year. You're sleeping in the woods, what is it like? Horrible. I am

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scared of spiders and there is lots of them. You get used to it. This is

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definitely what I imagined it would be like, being in the field, doing

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stuff like shooting and things like that. Completely different to being

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in camp. Five minutes to come and conceal yourself, in that direction.

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From now, go! Last time I spoke to you, you wanted to swap regiments

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like your brothers, how did your application go? I passed one more

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thing in English and then I am just doing my mathematics. I wanted to do

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it, ever since I joined the Army. I think I would be over the moon if I

:27:22.:27:28.

got my transfer. We'll they go into the ring, when the bell goes, what

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is the first thing we do? The summer term ends

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with college boxing night. And Demi Allan s

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dedication has paid off. She s been picked to fight in

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the only female bout of the evening. I blanked out when I go into the

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ring. Walking out scares me. All the junior soldiers watching... You have

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got the sergeants, officers, a lot of people watching.

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After three two minute rounds it s a win for Demi.

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How do you feel after that fight? I am knackered but I am really glad I

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won it. It is worth it. What are you looking forward to the most after

:28:31.:28:41.

this? A shower! That is it for tonight. We can all stand at ease

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now. Next week, the women who take that Bacary Sagna cosmetic treatment

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left them less than picture perfect. I will see you next week. Tell them,

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from Keswick, good night. Hello, I'm Riz Lateef

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with your 90-second update. Protests in Downing Street tonight

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against Donald Trump's travel ban More than 1.4 million have now

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signed a petition calling for his state visit to Britain

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to be cancelled. There have also been

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protests in the States. President Trump insisted little more

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than a 100 travellers were affected over the weekend and blamed

:29:19.:29:21.

protestors for the A mosque in Canada has been

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subjected to a terrorist attack. Six worshippers were killed,

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five critically injured, Guilty - banker Lynden Scourfield

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was bribed by David Mills to provide

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