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operation to catch a grooming gang, here s Chris Jackson with a special | 0:00:00 | 0:00:03 | |
edition of Inside Out. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:12 | |
Vulnerable teenagers, groomed and abused | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
by a gang of Asian men in Newcastle have finally got justice. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:19 | |
A multi-million pound police operation has | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
uncovered years of sexual | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
exploitation of children and young women. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
It s a problem that authorities and young women. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
struggled to tackle. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
But Inside Out can reveal how the investigation here came close | 0:00:29 | 0:00:36 | |
to collapse after Northumbria Police secretly paid a man who raped | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
a child thousands of pounds to infiltrate the grooming gang. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:45 | |
For the first time, we tell the whole story. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:55 | |
Police - emergency? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
If you try anything - you tried it on with us. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
He tried to sleep with us. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
A police operator takes a 999 call. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
There s an argument going on. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
It s (BLEEP) rape. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
She s my girlfriend, it doesn t matter, it doesn t matter. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Go home, take a taxi, yeh. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
Well, go on then. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
What s happening? | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
She just wants to go. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
I ll go then. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:41 | |
No. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
No, I need to know what is going on. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
There s clearly a disturbance there. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:45 | |
What s going on? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:46 | |
OK, OK, it doesn t matter, thank you. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
After the call, which lasted several minutes, the handler established | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
she was speaking to this man. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
The police did investigate, but took no further action against Minoyee, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
describing his victim as drunk and abusive. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
But six years later, this assault was played out in court | 0:01:59 | 0:02:05 | |
as part of Operation Sanctuary, a police investigation | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
finally lifting the lid on the actions of a grooming gang. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:17 | |
It exposed how, over many years, a group of Asian men | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
from the West End of Newcastle had been abusing vulnerable | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
young women and girls. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:29 | |
Throughout much of this programme we re reconstructing | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
real-life events. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
Sarah was 19, extremely vulnerable and unable to look after herself. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
Along with other at risk teenagers, she was regularly | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
abused by older men. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
These are Sarah's words, spoken by an actor. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
They just sit there and have a couple of drinks, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:59 | |
have a couple of puffs of cannabis, get up and dance and they try | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
and get into the bedroom by grabbing us like around the belly, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:10 | |
and when you do that against the door, (Gestures), "NO", | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
they still try and drag you though to the bedroom. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:20 | |
Basically, they think that, like with them having a load | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
of money and they re married and they ve got kids | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
and all of that, that they can go for younger... | 0:03:26 | 0:03:33 | |
like our age, and have sex with them for like forty quid or a tenner | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
or something like that. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
In the new year of 2014, Sarah told the police she d been | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
raped by Abdul Minoyee, the same man heard arguing | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
on the 999 call three years earlier. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
Ever since I ve kept to myself. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
I haven t told my dad, my family members. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:05 | |
I couldn t bring myself to tell anyone because I felt | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
ashamed, embarrassed. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:17 | |
And people were going, "have you ever been raped?" | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
Well, I bloody well have! | 0:04:22 | 0:04:29 | |
Now I m telling you, it s proper horrible. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:37 | |
I need somewhere to go, to be safe. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:44 | |
A police officer took Sarah on a tour of the West End | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
to try to identify Minoyee s house and car and other places | 0:04:46 | 0:04:55 | |
where what described as "parties" had taken place. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Sarah s information was a red flag, the abuse | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
was on a much bigger scale. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
I think it would have set just about every alarm bell ringing | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
that it was possible to sound. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
Andrew Norfolk is credited by many for breaking what s described | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
as a conspiracy of silence over the issue of Asian grooming gangs. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
At the time detectives in Newcastle were hearing Sarah s story, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
the authorities in South Yorkshire were under fire for failing | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
to protect hundreds of victims of a grooming gang in Rotherham. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:33 | |
I find it almost inconceivable that when the Rotherham scandal finally | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
erupted there were not a great many police forces and local | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
authorities across England sitting there and thinking, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
there but for the grace of God. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:51 | |
How does anybody know that what was going on in Rotherham | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
for all those years wasn t happening in another part of the country? | 0:05:53 | 0:06:03 | |
And it wasn t just Rotherham, patterns were emerging of similar | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
grooming gangs across England. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
Here, the detective in charge of Sarah s case told his bosses that | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
what she had said signalled something much bigger. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:20 | |
Days later, the officer s hunch was given added weight when two | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
girls in care reported that they d been repeatedly raped | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
by a group of older Asian men. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
The girls were aged 14 and 15. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:34 | |
The girls described being driven into Newcastle where they were plied | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
with alcohol and cocaine before being raped and beaten | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
by several men. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:49 | |
They were then given money and taken back | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
to where they were in care. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
So a team from Northumbria Police began a massive intelligence | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
gathering exercise. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
This is the moment when Operation Sanctuary began. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
We re dealing with offences of grooming, rape, drugs | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
and human trafficking. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:09 | |
There are cultural considerations there which we must be mindful of. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:15 | |
And over the following weeks across the West End of Newcastle... | 0:07:15 | 0:07:21 | |
Police, police. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
..they carried out a series of raids. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
You re arrested for conspiracy to commit rape. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
What! | 0:07:29 | 0:07:30 | |
Put your hands in front of you, please. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
It ll all be explained to you when you get | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
to the police station. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:42 | |
Conspiracy to commit rape, Nicky. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
Keep it to yourself yet but... | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
Inside the flats, the police discovered evidence of partying. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
And any maybes lasses names. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
Oh aye. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
Phones, lap tops, sims cards... | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
They seized mobiles, computers and drugs, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
anything which would help piece together their investigation. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:09 | |
At the beginning of 2014, they went public with | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
At the beginning of 2014, they went public with the inquiry. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
15 arrests | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
as police investigate claims of sexual abuse | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
of young women in Newcastle. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:28 | |
Some of them were in local authority care. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
This could be somebody who you see in circumstances that | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
just doesn t feel right. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
You see them associating with older boys or indeed older men. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
There can t be any political correctness or any sensitivities. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
They are criminals who have committed some of the worst crimes | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
in our society and we should deal with them with the full | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
letter of the law. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:45 | |
If it looks wrong and it feels wrong, then please | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
get in touch with us. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:48 | |
Police officers took to the streets on a publicity drive, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
taxi drivers and late night takeaways were targetted. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:58 | |
The publicity brought results, two teenagers walked | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
into Byker police station. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:06 | |
They told a familiar story, of how they d also been | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
abused over several years. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:14 | |
The girls explained how they'd been sitting on a bench in the early | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
hours of the morning in Benwell. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
They were wearing only pyjamas and were picked | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
up by Mohammed Azram, known as Azzi G. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
He offered to let them warm up in his car. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
The girls, then aged just 16, were taken away, fed drugs | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
and alcohol and then one of them had sex with Azram. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
The story is familiar. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:41 | |
At first the girls believe they're in a relationship, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
but then, as time goes on, the controlling becomes | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
much more explicit. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
They re plied with drink and drugs, upon which they become | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
increasingly dependent. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:52 | |
They re sexually assaulted and shared around amongst the other men. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
So with the abusers in a tightly knit group and their victims often | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
traumatized, the police investigation was fraught | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
with difficulty. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
Perhaps that s why they took a highly controversial decision | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
to recruit a man with a shocking past, and it could have | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
derailed the entire inquiry. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:18 | |
A CHIS is what most people would know is called an informant | 0:10:18 | 0:10:24 | |
or a snout, a grass. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Informants operate in a shadowy world that seldom comes | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
to public attention. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
Neil Woods has a unique insight, it was his job to handle | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
informants in the Midlands. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:41 | |
CHIS stands for 'covert human intelligence source' It s the person | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
who a lot of the time has a criminal background and provides information | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
to police officers about other criminal activities. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:57 | |
The man chosen by Northumbria Police was a convicted child rapist. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:05 | |
XY, as he became known, was jailed for seven years | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
for attacking a 15-year-old girl. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
He d picked her up off the street in 2001, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
plied her with drink and drugs and gang raped her with | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
two of his friends. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:22 | |
Despite being a high risk sex offender, the police decided | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
to bring XY on board. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:30 | |
He was already on their books having worked for them for several | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
years as an informant. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
His task? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
To act as their man on the inside. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:41 | |
We can t name XY for legal reasons, but he knew many | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
in the grooming gang. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
This, in his own words, spoken by an actor, is why | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
the police brought him into the inquiry. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
I was told this is an operation about Asian grooming gangs. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
This is what we are after. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
These are the people we are interested in. | 0:11:54 | 0:12:04 | |
I had to find out what's going on, where the parties were taking place. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:12 | |
Last party I went to, one or two, I got to find out about parties, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:22 | |
so when they were happening, I would ring it in. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
Between March 2014 and December 2015, XY was paid ?10,300 | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
for the information he supplied to his police handler. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
But that wasn t his only reward. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
There are a variety of motivations for CHIS s. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:41 | |
Most of the time it's for financial benefit. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
Sometimes they are providing information because they hope that | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
information will mean that they get a discount on a prison sentence, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
if they are on bail for something. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
During his time as an informant, XY benefitted from lighter sentences | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
and he was certainly a prolific offender. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
In all, XY had 53 convictions. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
He had a history of fraud and assaults. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:08 | |
While working for Operation Sanctuary, he was arrested | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
for dishonesty, an assault in a mosque and he was even | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
questioned about making sexual advances to a 13-year-old girl. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:20 | |
I think it s absolutely disgusting. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
I don t think any police force should be working with pedophiles. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
Sammy Woodhouse was just 14 when she was abused | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
by a grooming gang in Rotherham. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
He came to me as me Prince Charming and then later | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
on turned into a monster. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
She now advises police forces on how to tackle grooming. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
We showed her our information on XY. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
I think it's an absolute kick in the teeth. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
It s just so insulting. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
They clearly thought that no one was going to know | 0:13:54 | 0:14:04 | |
about it and they thought they would get away with it. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:12 | |
How would you describe the behaviour of Northumbria Police | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
in using a convicted sex offender like this? | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
It s absolutely shameful and they should be ashamed | 0:14:17 | 0:14:18 | |
of themselves and they need to ask themselves, how would I feel | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
if it was my daughter? | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
As a victim, I don t think I d go to that police force after hearing | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
information like this. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:27 | |
And if this kind of stuff can shock me, I know it s | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
going to shock anybody, and I don t think the public | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
is going to be happy whatsoever when this gets out. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
I can completely understand the public s outrage, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:41 | |
the outrage that a convicted child rapist is going to be paid money, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
but there's no room to be squeamish in this world. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:55 | |
If you want to investigate child sex offences, you've got to use every | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
tool at your disposal. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:01 | |
We ll probably never know the exact reason why the police used XY, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
what we do know is that their secret strategy could have wrecked | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
the whole operation, as we'll see later. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
By the summer of 2015, the police were ready | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
to bring their case to court. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:13 | |
But with more than 20 defendants, the trials | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
were divided up into four. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
In the first, eight men were in the dock. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
The verdicts? | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
Sailful Islam - ten years for rape. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Mohammed Hassan Ali - seven years for sexual activity | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
with and supplying drugs to a child. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
Mohammed Azram, Nashir Uddin, Jahanghir Zaman - | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
all convicted of sexual assault, drugs offences and inciting | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
women into prostitution. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
Yasser Hussein got two years for assault and witness intimidation. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Two others were acquitted. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:54 | |
But the next cases didn't run so smoothly. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
In March 2016 it emerged that XY - the child rapist informant - | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
had fallen out with his police handler and was now threatening | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
to go to the press. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
XY had, in effect, gone rogue and was making highly damaging | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
claims about the investigation. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
We've obtained a secret transcript of XY s interview | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
with the National Crime Agency, which was called in to | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
investigate his allegations. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
Much of it is so sensitive that it's been blacked out. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
But in the extracts we can read XY claims the police | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
operation was racist, that he was tasked by his handler | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
to plant drugs at the homes of the grooming gang and even told | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
to take vulnerable girls to parties. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
He asked me at one point go pick one up and bring her to the house | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
and bring some drugs with ya... | 0:16:46 | 0:16:52 | |
So I'd go and pick up these lasses take them to the party, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
leave some drugs on the table. | 0:16:55 | 0:17:02 | |
The claims caused an outcry in the court room. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
The prosecution wanted the whole issue debated in secret | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
but the BBC challenged that, which is why we can now | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
tell you the full story. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
Defence lawyers argued that XY's claims so discredited the police | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
case, it was fatally flawed and the trials should be abandoned. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Years of investigation and a multi-million pound | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
enquiry were in jeopardy. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
The prosecution has expressed incredulity at our complaint | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
about the deployment of XY. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
A convicted child rapist who drugged a child, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
then contacted someone else to rape her after he had! | 0:17:38 | 0:17:48 | |
This is a case where a rapist was put into the field, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
where he was with vulnerable young women when intoxicated. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:59 | |
There were 30 occasions where it was disclosed by XY | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
that he had been at parties. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:08 | |
The police were happy for him to be going to parties, taking drugs, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
being out of control because of the high | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
value of information. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:19 | |
That is an affront to the public conscious. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:26 | |
He had committed a series of frauds. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
He was arrested for assaulting someone in a mosque. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
He attempted to incite a female in July 2015. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
He was arrested for breaching the sex offenders' register. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
If the public were told this, would they have confidence | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
in the administration of justice? | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
It is not difficult to predict what the answer would be. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
Eventually the judge insisted XY should be brought to court. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
By now he and his family had been moved out of the area and were under | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
round the clock police protection. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
He gave his evidence from behind a screen and blamed his many | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
inconsistencies on the pressure of working as a police informant. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:07 | |
You have to remember that I've been through a lot. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:14 | |
It's impossible to remember what's true and what's not. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
You've put me through this. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
If I got shot or died it would have been easier for my wife. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
Then she could keep the kids. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
We know who you are you BLEEP grass! | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
At one stage there was an angry confrontation involving | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
the men in the dock, men who previously saw XY | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
as a friend but now discovered he was paid to spy on them. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:46 | |
In the end, the Judge threw out the defence's attempt to halt | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
the trials and dismissed all of XY's allegations. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
She said he was "wholly unworthy of belief" and rejected | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
his evidence entirely. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
The police say their watchdog - the IPCC - has cleared | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
them of any wrongdoing. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
The judge, though, said it wasn't her job to rule on the police | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
decision to employ XY. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
In effect, I am being asked to substitute my judgment | 0:20:08 | 0:20:14 | |
about the kind of person who should be used as an informant, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
for the judgment of the officers whose work this is... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
That I decline to do. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:26 | |
Others, though, are not so restrained. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:32 | |
Personally I can't envisage circumstances where I would have | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
authorised payment to someone convicted of rape. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Jim Gamble is the former policeman who set up | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
the Government's task force to fight child sexual exploitation. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
When you're desperate for intelligence, I can see | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
why there may have been an appetite for it. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
I can't imagine how you could have control mechanisms in place | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
with an informant of that type, that you were going to task... | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
That would give you reassurance, that they didn't still represent | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
a risk to young and vulnerable women, given what I know about this | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
particular person's history. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
I think all police forces are under pressure to get things right. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:16 | |
But there are ways and means of doing it. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
In my opinion, they have gone way over the line on this one. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
I certainly wouldn't like to think that someone is out there | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
paying my abuser for information. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
Would I be encouraging police forces across the country to go out | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
and find a registered sex offender who'd been convicted of a sexual | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
assault against a teenage girl to task and use them | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
to infiltrate other groups? | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
And the answer to that is no. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
This is the murky world in which we have to operate. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
We have to work in the shadows. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
This is the man with ultimate responsibility for taking on XY. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:56 | |
We have to deal with people who themselves are guilty of some | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
of the most vile offences imaginable, we have to consider | 0:22:01 | 0:22:07 | |
whether we'd pay murderers for information, pay rapists, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
drug dealers and burglars and quite often these people can't be trusted | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
but the potential prize is that you just might get a piece | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
of information, intelligence, possibly even evidence, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
that might just lead you to a successful conviction | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
and you put bad people behind bars. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
But what message does it send to a rape victim that you might be | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
paying their attacker? | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
I think it sends out a message that we will do everything we can | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
to make sure that other women and girls are not victims | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
of the same type of atrocity that they have been. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
That's our commitment. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
In principle it sounds like you would use a convicted sex | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
offender again in the future? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
Yes, 100% all day and all night and if I'm presented with the same | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
problem I'll do exactly the same thing again because if I'm going | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
to be able to protect somebody, and in that individual case I'm | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
content that we have not only brought dangerous men to justice | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
and put them behind bars... | 0:23:02 | 0:23:03 | |
In some cases we have actually saved lives on the back of information | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
that we have gained and now am I going to take that risk again, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:14 | |
you're damn right, I'm going to. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
It's inside the law, inside accepted policy and practice. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
I get that people might be quite shocked by it but actually this | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
is the right thing to do. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
In the three years since it started, Operation Sanctuary has led | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
to a series of other spin off operations - covering human | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
trafficking, modern day slavery, drugs and firearms offences. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:38 | |
Northumbria Police say that's resulted in 97 convictions | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
and sentences totaling more than 300 years. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:46 | |
And the last of the four grooming trials ended this week, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
bringing to 18 the number convicted on charges ranging from rape to | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
conspiracy to incite prostitution. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
Others like Nadeem Aslam were convicted of supplying drugs | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
but cleared of sex charges. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
Some of the offenders have already been given | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
long jail sentences - the rest will be | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
sentenced in September. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:13 | |
I'm absolutely satisfied, however difficult it's been, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
I look at the results that we have achieved. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
There are some vile individuals sat in prison today | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
because of the dedicated work that officers in Northumbria Police have | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
done to encourage victims and complainants to have the courage | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
to come forward. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
So have I any regrets about that? | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
None. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:31 | |
Zero. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:40 | |
So Operation Sanctuary raises many important questions. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:46 | |
As in dozens of similar cases across England... | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
Why were the abusers exclusively Asian men? | 0:24:48 | 0:24:56 | |
Here was a crime pattern that had existed for at least two decades, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
and from the very first day we ran our very first article, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
which was in January 2011, saying here is a conspiracy | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
of silence in acknowledging this. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:07 | |
Why are you not acknowledging that this pattern exists | 0:25:07 | 0:25:13 | |
and from that day one | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
what we said is what is absolutely crucially needed, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
it's research to understand why this pattern has put down, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
such deep roots that research is still not being carried out. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:29 | |
Why is it that there appears to be a predominance | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
of this type of offending in a particular community? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
I think that community has to be asked that question. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
I think we can take part in that debate but it's | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
not led by the police. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
It's a job for society itself. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
And then there's the issue of whether Northumbria Police missed | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
chances to intervene years earlier and save vulnerable | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
girls from abuse. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:47 | |
We know the police were aware of numerous contacts between victims | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
and their abusers almost four years before Operation | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
Sanctuary was launched. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
There was the 13-year-old child in care in Northumberland who told | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
the police that she been raped after being held against her will | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
by an Asian man in Newcastle. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
No action was taken at the time. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:12 | |
Two teenage girls were found by the police in a car on a patch | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
of wasteland in Newcastle with older men. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
They were drinking and smoking cannabis. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
The officers simply returned the girls to their parents | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
and took no further action. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
A known sex offender called Abdul Sabe was spotted with the same | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
girls by a probation officer later in the year. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
The police were told and they went to his flat in Walker. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
The girls were drunk. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
But again the police took no action other than taking the girls home, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
and Sabe was back in touch with them soon afterwards. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:50 | |
In 2012 Bahmani Ahmadi was accused of rape by a 14-year-old girl | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
from a Newcastle childrens' home. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
He was interviewed by the police but no action was taken. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
Ahmadi continued to offend and was arrested again in 2014. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
He admitted a string of sexual assaults and jailed | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
for six and a half years. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
Police emergency. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
And finally the case where the woman was heard shouting | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
for help on a 999 call. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
It's BLEEP rape. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
If you want to go, I ll let you. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
It took six years to bring Abdul Minoyee to justice - | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
by which time he'd raped another vulnerable young woman. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
We're not perfect. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
We have encountered one individual officer who should have been far | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
more diligent and should have done their job better | 0:27:35 | 0:27:42 | |
and there were some serious failings in what was evidence in relation | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
to one offender and that offender is behind bars and has been | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
in prison for a lengthy period of time. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
The officer, we sacked them and I would hope would give some | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
reassurance that in the course of this we have been | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
absolutely resolute. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:03 | |
The culture of Northumbria Police now is very, very different | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
to that of years ago. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
We understand Newcastle City Council has launched a serious case review | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
to examine why vulnerable teenagers in its care were not | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
better protected. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
The men responsible for ruining so many young lives | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
are facing long sentences. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
For the police this cannot yet be case closed. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
While the difficulty of investigating grooming cases | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
can't be underestimated - many are left wondering if it can | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
ever be right to pay a child rapist thousands of pounds | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
from the public purse? | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
Hello, I'm Colleen Harris with your 90 second update. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
Guilty - 18 members of a sex abuse gang who raped and trafficked | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
girls as young as 14 in Newcastle. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:21 | |
Police have defended paying a convicted child rapist ?10,000 | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
to act as an informant. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 |